That's the truth. I'm prior service and on meds... that they gave me, and I'm about to go through an uphill battle to re-up. I don't mind the challenge. I just need a few meds, a couple can be dropped with fitness. A few are hereditary and needed by a certain age. They'd give them anyways if I stayed in, in the first place. My cousin just retired from 20 years active and is taking pretty much what I am and I want back in since I am at a point I can do it. Just gotta fight the MEPS boss.
THANK U BROTHER IM SAYING THE SAME SAMN THING BRA ! Fuck they asses ! People like us who wanna join cant cause robots like thesw clowns im better of joining RUSSIA 🇷🇺 AT LEAST THEY WONT BE ON SOME GOOFY SHIT LIKE HERE !! Que see vallan a la verga !!!
Hey guys. Last August, I attempted to go to MEPs but was temporarily disqualified. Over the course of several months, I received several LORs from doctors, my teachers, and my counselor. Today, my waiver was approved, and I am meant to go to MEPs again this Friday. This process has been extremely harsh on me. When I was initially declined, I thought it was over. I just wanted to leave a comment here saying that if you're in the process or require a waiver to enlist, go for it. It may take time, but in the end, it's worth it. Remember, don't give up. Just because the military entrance process is odd in some ways doesn't mean you cannot join your desired branch. Keep at it!
Today is one of the worst days because my recruiter just sent me an email saying that I'm disqualified for enlistment. In this PDF I received says that I do not meet the waiver criteria. Is there still a possibility for me to enlisting? {{The Air Force does have the ability to grant medical waivers beyond the standards listed in this instruction, but after a thorough review, taking into consideration your medical condition(s) and how it(they) applies(apply) to the needs of the Air Force, and your own health and safety, it was determined by our medical team that your condition(s) also does not meet waiver criteria for accession as annotated below: DISQ Q82.4 - Ectodermal dysplasia (anhidrotic= inability to sweat) --------->> I'm 19 played sports all mi life and never had a heart issue. DISQ H52.209 - Unspecified astigmatism, unspecified eye}} {{Unfortunately, your condition(s) is(are) such that even with the passage of time, a waiver would not be considered in the future. However, if an error was made regarding your prior diagnosis, then new clinical notes (not just a memo from a provider) about the status of the condition may be provided to your recruiter, who can submit them to our medical waiver division and a re-inquiry into your case would be possible.}}
For everyone Struggling to get in for whatever bullshit reason they give you I want you to remember with the recruitment crisis the way it is and global tensions at a boiling point they need you alot more then you need them. Find something else life we all have our callings.
@A_Mind_For_Change you got this bro you might end up on the street or in your car for a few months but it will all work out in the end and hopefully you'll get in.
@@Lleesstreett if they reject me for this, I am gonna call the army see if they will get me the waivers. If not, forget the stupid armed forces, bunch of wankers.
The military has always been my calling though, since I got denied I have lost all direction in life, though I get your point and logically you're right and I can do better than joining the military, it's just difficult to give it up, it's literally the only thing I've been dreaming off since I was 6. Sorry for the short rant, just wanted to add that for some people, the military isn't just an opportunity thing, but a real calling
It all boils down to if your recruiter is willing to do the paperwork. You can go one center and have a lazy recruiter who will lie then go to another one to where they are willing and they will put it in to you.
It's not about being lazy, you can lose out on meeting 2-3 BETTER candidates wasting your time on a lose/lose proposition. Lose because you are letting in a possible dirt bag you will have to serve with, but also lose because they may have a hard time adapting getting in trouble all the time and be like this whiner on TH-cam complaining that you are being targeted..
I took a no for about 6 years. Then I needed help paying for college and the desire never left so I tried again 4 years later. They said no. Defeated I payed for college myself but I went back after college. The waivers I needed were moral so it prevents me from being an officer but my packet is being sent up for consideration soon. This is I think the last time at 34, but I finally have a recruiter who wants to work with me even before he knew I got a 98 on the asvab and I have 2 degrees but it took a lot to get here so what I'm saying is run it into the ground if this is what you want
You trying to be active or reserve? What’s a moral type waiver? I’m working on paying my huge student loans before approaching military about medical waiver with my IT background. Age 36
@@jonasbaine3538 a moral waiver means you have a criminal record or disqualifying events, but the waiver is an appeal that goes up the chain for approval. It's a long process and most recruiters just don't want to go through the paperwork, it takes time finding one who is willing to. I'm going through the same thing. I've gotten plain "no" from a recruiter, even though they are not the ones who make the decision, senior leadership does
@@elitehaxxor8025 I’ve also got a straight no. I have a felony and now I have a recruiter who is very willing to work with me and I think part of it is because their recruitment is down.
Thank you. I’ve been wanting to join the Air Force for a few years now, and a lot of this stuff I haven’t even taken into account yet. I appreciate how informative you were as well.
I have a right bundle branch block with my heart, white coat syndrome where my BP and HR vets high because I get nervous (but it’s normal when I’m home or not at the doctor) Been working with the Air Force, they gave up on me, Army got in medically cleared in 20 days. I went to meps all the way back in december and was finally cleared today. If y’all want this, don’t give up. Put your mind to it, give it your all and you’ll get in. Super excited now that I can enlist.
When I joined and 98, I was a high school dropout and had a GED and was 60 pounds overweight. The first recruiter laughed me out of the room. I went to see a second recruiter, super motivated. I love that guy he used to wake me up in the morning to go running and studying. I ended up losing 60 pounds in 60 days passing my asvab on the second try and the rest is history. Oh, I also forgot. The first sergeant wanted to force me to join the reserves. I guess it was easier for him but I started crying and told him how hard at work and he ended up helping me join and he told me you’re going to be a combat engineer so I don’t want you coming back here and cussing me out lol.
@@squidbra wouldn’t trade it for the world we have a strong history of being the baddest mf on earth. Big rivalry with the infantry. But also the hardest most shitty job pounding pickets for 4 days straight no break, riding around with all kinds of explosives bouncing all around. It’s a crazy job that no one knows about unless you were in the army
I was “over qualified” for every officer position they had listed as an option for me. But I would never be allowed in cause I’ve taken anxiety meds for over a year. With a ever growing anxious and depressed youth, the military needs to start rethinking it’s medical exam
Im so glad I found this video! I actually got contacted by a Navy recruiter and trying to get back in now with an RE3E code and I wanna give the military one more shot because my current job is just a mental hivemind of stupidity.
Prior service Air Force trying to get into the Army, started the process about a week ago. I'm liking my recruiter so far, He's brand new to recruiting and seemed excited to work with me. Luckily for me I saved pretty much every document I was given throughout my Air force recruiting/MEPS process in a three ring binder and had just about every document they needed on my first visit so that made his life easier like you said. Looking forward to my check in with him in a week to get this process moving. I just gotta lose some weight and get into shape and pray I dont need too many waivers lol Great video man
They kicked me out last day of but got “asthma” My pulmonary test at my unit was cleared. I had gotten a lung infection Ku first week there due to the lack of cleanliness of the area(they hadn’t cleaned it in a year and even my Sgts were kind of pissed)
I’ve been stuck in a long Air Force process because I had surgery. Almost a year now and I’ve given my recruiter several clearance letters that I’m all healed up and my doctor is starting to get pissed off and so am I. I’m thinking about the Army now.
By all means, try for Army. I was turned off by an Air Force recruiter that was standoffish with me so I turned to Army. And I enjoy it. Best decision I have made. Makes me feel glad I did not try for Air Force.
I'm someone with a felony that was dismissed because I served probation and it was stricken from the record. In normal life, I don't have any record of it, in military eyes, I do. I went to a recruiter and he said there was no chance, and just told me no. He didn't offer to even get a waiver up the line. As of right now, I haven't talked to a recruiter because I'm so discouraged. Today marks the day where I'm going to find a recruiter who is willing to go through the process with/for me and I'll accept my fate if it gets denied.
I have alot of medical problems and my first military recruiter was very shady, lied to meps and when it got too hard for them they told me meps said no, i got called by a new recruiter in the same sub station telling everyone got canned and it was a new team, there was no record of previous disqualification. Make sure you can trust your recruiter.
Was living on the east coast and needed a waiver for Re 3 code like you were saying in the last video. Those recruiters said I’d have to wait a full year to even start the reenlistment process. Moved to Georgia and just went to the recruiter and she’s already talking about starting the waiver within the next two weeks! Your recruiter definitely decides if they want to help
Once you get pass MEPS AND YOU need a code 3 for a conduct waiver... you basically got it... but to get to that point with a recruiter is the hard part.
@@patrickashmen2098 I’m in the same situation , only difference is I’m waiting for my recruiter to get back to me to see if they are willing to pull through with a moral waiver , but I have not went to meps
I have a DUI on my record and a broke 2 vertabrae 5 years ago. Army recruiter said I was going to waste my time and every recruiters' time if I continued to pursue a career in the military. As I was leaving his office and heading back to my truck, the Marine recruiter came hollered at me from the door. He changed my life.
I am joining the Navy. I have passed EVERYTHING except my blood pressure. I got two good readings for the waiver process, so I HOPE I can get approved no issues, but based off everything I have seen and heard, I can't be 100% on anything with this MEPs process. Luckily my recruiter feels I'll have no issues here.
Ur fuckin telling me. I’m stressing out over here. Thank god I found an amazing recruiter. If I don’t get in, which I’m hoping that’s not the case, I know my recruiter has done all she can do for me. She’s my mentor, and I look up to her. An amazing person. I wish this recruiter on every person looking to enlist
Going on three months since I stated the waiver process and still nothing kinda on the end of the rope having to wait on a response from meps is very annoying
I probably tell my recruiter the truth as she want me to be in the army as I was interested on joining but the one biggest problem is my sketchy past of my misdemeanor convictions and warnings by both the Goergia Government and the United States Government as only 4 convicted I was framed by my foe (I hate him so much he ruin my career and my life as I lost everything) . But two is by my own because I was stupid and made the wrong choice. But I’m not giving up
Using Army iPerms helped the recruiter and I make the process easier. Now just sitting and waiting for higher ups to give the approval to go active duty.
@@vr7142 why? would you give up? if you’re in the military then they teach you not to do that right? you don’t give up because someone tells you to stop trying. You give up when you can no longer possibly continue, and in his case he’s most likely got awhile before that happens. Maybe you aren’t in the military, maybe your in the same boat, but just because you quit doesn’t mean other people have to become complacent
@@somerandomdudethatcommente5191 I was in the Army but I got chaptered out for a history of suicide attempts the reason I told him to let it go is because sometimes things are just not meant to be and letting things go is easier and will eventually bring peace to someone
@@somerandomdudethatcommente5191 well said. I've been trying for 3 years. Several waivers have been accepted. Should be swearing in sometime next month. Don't give up bro. Keep training keep your drive.
I have a flag on my record (or that's how they put it) because I have a scar for self harm and I didn't know that there were waivers for that. It's been like 4 years since and I really would like to enlist, but recruiters won't even answer me. I'm still looking for a recruiter that will try to help me to see if I can get a waiver. My score in the ASVAB was really high and I passed the physical so that's the only thing holding me back.
@@firstname474 you dont want to lie, but you should, as they put it, "keep it simple stupid". If they dont ask about it, no need to go into all the details. It wouldnt be lying if you said it was a childhood scar and it actually was, you just dont need to go into detail unless they specifically ask you to. If meps catch you in a lie they probably will not accept you.
I have eczema on the top of my hands and I was already rejected from the air force because of that, but I am looking at the other branches but I don't have high expectations when it comes to making it. I would lie about not having it, but if in any case it flares up due to the weather or anything else then it would be bad.
After watching your video, I realize that I had a bad recruiter so I went to a different office and a different recruiter completely night and day one made it seem like it was a hassle for me to get in and the other made it seem like he would do what he can to get me in
You are absolutely correct about that I had multiple recruiters who swept me under the rug until I met a recruiter from Missouri and she went the extra mile to get me in and I was able to swear in. She was impressed with the dedication that I put forth regarding the military and I told her I had been trying since 2015. But also around that time my father died and it derailed EVERYTHING including my time at Basic and now im ready to come back in and complete Basic. But this time im going to need a age wavier and a medical waiver due to having a IEP while in HS and ill be turning 36 in about a month or two. How would that whole process work for me? I also have documents regarding my discharge code on my DD214's. The more I look back everything it makes me really want to come back and finish.
I started my paperwork to get back in the military 7 months ago and my recruiter sent my waiver a month ago because I had to give them ALL the documents I needed. I received an RE-3 JFW for “Asthma” when it was really COVID-19.. I have every paper document proving it was COVID & I took many tests stating I do not have Asthma anymore. The thing is, I got a waiver FOR asthma & since i basically got kicked out bc of “Asthma” it looks really bad on my paperwork. I’m really scared because I REALLY WANT TO SERVE IN THE MILITARY like my dedication to the military is really high. I was hoping someone can help me out here 😅 I don’t have Asthma it was covid-19 & my medical records even says i had covid-19. What should I do?
I've heard from other videos that getting a statement from a doctor that you do not have asthma helps. I'm not sure how that could be included into your file, I suppose it would vary defending on what part of the process you're in
@@Tahzir pls help me!! i had covid about a month ago it was covid 19 pneumonia. They prescribed me an inhaler bc i couldn’t breathe due to the covid. It says on my history that it was covid and asthma but it was not asthma !
Hey maybe you can, help me, I’m 18 still in high school and have a heart problem, I have to get surgery, soon but my heart should be back to normal, and no more surgery for the rest of my life, do u think it’s possible for me to join? I have asthma too, but I know I can get rid of that all I have to do is run that away for a couple of weeks, I’m in 12th grade and I have 2 more weeks of school left, I would love to join the army, please help me thank you. And do u think if my doctor has a wavier for my heart, do u think that will help? I’m more consider about my heart than my asthma, bc like I told u before asthma can go away in a couple of weeks, all I have to do is run like crazy. Thank you
great video; it shows that you are wise beyond your years, and u should always be considered as a good asset. The military needs to always retain or allow reentry fast track. you would have been an amazing Air Force personalist who would have gained rank fast. or a good recruiter or Air Force career advisor. if you have prior service or even a potential recruit, do all you can do to provide information or help to your recruiter to save them headaches. especially if your prior service
I tried to get in for 14 years what was held back by a bullshit medical waiver. I said bullshit because it was a non-issue but MEPS decided to give me an impossible task to get the waiver. I recently started talking to the National Guard and when I told the recruiter the story he got really frustrated. “ we are in a recruitment crisis and they keep tossing perfectly acceptable candidates over non-issues and claiming we’re not doing our best to meet our quota’s!”
Currently trying to get into the Air Force. Have an underage age and open container, also have another record that got sealed. Waiting for my waivers to go through for that and my drug use. Also needed a waiver for my pass adhd medication use. My recruiter is great and I’m just waiting to see if I can go to meps. Wish me luck.
The only thing I’m worried is my hearing, I do have a slight hearing loss, basically need a hearing aid if I’m in a classroom, or if someone is trying to talk to me behind a glass window/ or wearing a mask and it sounds muffled. I do hear that I can get a wavier for this.
@@sarahjane2277 it was about my speech impediment from the 4th grade which put me in IED from 4th to 6th. I don’t have an impediment now. Update on me I’m in the Navy as a rescue swimmer stationed in Japan. A lot has happened
In March and April of 2017 I had cateract surgery on both my right and left eyes. In October 2021 I applyied for a medical waiver for cateracts, and my Navy recruiter doesn't respond to my text messages anymore. I don't know the status of waiver or nothing
Your recruiter isnt a good one and probably will not push for the waiver to be approved. Find another recruiter who will go the extra mile to get you approved
Ah, you’re talking about the Army National Guard which is quite a bit different than the Regular Army. I spent 8 years stuck in USAREC (Active Army Recruiting Command) as a recruiter and I got my V7 qualification which is Ops/Guidance Counselor and I spent 12 months working at LA Rctg Bn in the S3 shops as the Bn Waiver Tech where I processed all types of waivers. UR 350-6 covers all waivers and what’s required for those waivers. On the Active Army side it’s fairly simple for the recruiter to submit a waiver, if it’s a med waiver then it may need some more med records or some medical test or scan from a civilian doctor that will help the Army Med Command be able to make their decision. But be well aware of this; most of the recruiters that work in S3 can be lazy and care less but about 1/3 of the waiver staff actually gives a damn. I was able to get same day waivers approved because I picked up the phone and talked with the applicants recruiter or station commander and told them exactly what I needed it and if I got it in time, I could get him enlisted. Some of us worked hard to help recruiters since many are located hours away from MEPS and it takes a LOT of time to drive back and forth and that takes away time from looking for new prospects. After a couple months the S3 waiver techs will be able to tell when a waiver is likely to be approved or denied no matter what and the tech can advise the recruiter or whoever asks. Qualification standards are always evolving, USAREC sends out messages to make immediate changes for waivers and it’s usually for the better but, the average field recruiter is completely unaware of these daily messages so they don’t know that a prospect that was unqualified a month ago is now able to submit a waiver and hopefully enlist. Those messages are on the USAREC homepage but you’ll need your CAC card access to see them, they used to be open to the public until about 6 years ago. Dependency waivers (wife and number of kids) are the ones that almost never get approved so try and find a way for the prospect to get an advance promotion to qualify as per AR 601-210 Ch. 2. The person that is the most critical,part of a waiver processing is the Company 1SG, he’s able to call S3 any time he wants and get a status check on people in his pipeline and kick some ass if things aren’t getting a response. The good 1SG’s would call me about twice a week and politely inquire and ask for any advice I can provide to get it approved or speed up the process, the S3 shop will talk with DA waiver techs who’re often career recruiters as well and many of those 1SG’s probably know some of those people and sometimes I’ll tell that good 1SG who I spoke with and here’s their phone number so he can catch up with an old buddy and while he’s at it, inquire about his waivers. Because of my actions, I made more enlistments happen that would otherwise fall through. If we don’t deliver on what we told an applicant then as we waste time waiting on a waiver, the applicant may lose interest or his girlfriend will convince him to stay or anything else you can imagine, it’s just how we are as humans. I know GENESIS is a pure pain but there’s always a way to work within its limits and go forward, and if you’re a recruiter, don’t be afraid to do some digging and be resourceful, don’t throw your hands up and quit. A station commander can call S3 and get some updates but some S3 shops may be run by a Dick and he/she won’t entertain calls from anyone but CLT leadership members. If that’s the case, make a friend in the S3 shop, chances are that the SC worked with someone in that shop beforehand and are good friends, little things like that will help. If you’ve heard of the 20/80 rule about who does the actual work in any organization, it’s very accurate, I’ve never seen so many lazy people in my life! One guy just sat in his cubicle checking his investments online while the phone is constantly ringing but the NCOIC didn’t care. And never assume a damn thing when it comes to your applicant, ask the hard questions so you hear the direct answer. Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups! I later returned to the Infantry and later retired, USAREC back then was hell, too many mentally challenged leaders, just unreal. We often worked from 0830-2200 daily and at least half a day on Saturday. And we’d often talk with some prospects after work hours if they return a call or something. We’d never call people past 2100-2130, it’s always counterproductive to do that. Now for national guard recruiting, that’s a different beast. National guard uses the MEPS for the physical and ASVAB but that’s about it, they don’t share our waiver system/network and use their own. So it may be the national guard recruiter that’s the bottleneck in the waiver process or something else, hell if I know. I hope all my babbling helped explain some things, recruiters do care about each prospect they work with, we don’t approach just everyone, I’d choose people I’d share a foxhole with (in 26 years I only dug 2 foxholes, lol.) since who wants to talk with some arrogant momma’s boy? I enjoyed helping good people get a job they want and something way more interesting than working at some factory or some job people hate but do it for the money to survive. A good sense of humor and the ability to actually care for people is important if you plan on being a recruiter, you can’t fake genuine concern. I wish all of you well and do great things in your life!
I’m looking at joining the army as a 15T but as a juvenile had mental health encounters and a minor arrest and I’m worried about being disqualified despite not being on any medications. And trying to figure out what all I need to
4 years ago i tried and kept bugging my recruiter for the national guard but he eventually stopped contacting me. I did give up. But now 4 years later i have a recruiter who is helping me out to get through. Ssg Mitchell. Hes taking the extra steps. Im 33 now but im ready for this and i cant wait
I probably should’ve found this video first. Age limit opened to just before your 42nd birthday in Oct ‘23 for AF/SF & Navy. I found this out during Xmas and waited till January. My AF recruiter was hardly ever in office and not very responsive during our texts, but in person seemed to be interested in getting me in. My situation was/is kind of dire, since I have only a GED and haven’t built any kind of career. I’m fit from Martial Arts and dancing and scored 94 on ASVAB. I began to see more & more how I could benefit from the brotherhood & discipline in the military to take advantage of my capabilities. My recruiter couldn’t get me to MEPS till about 3 weeks before my birthday in May, and 2 medical waivers made sure I ran out of time. I then applied to my next option of Army Reserve, which after a month got rejected for same 2 medical visits. Wish I knew to pick the recruiter who was down to make it happen and not lazy like my first one.
I Have Epilepsy I Have Spoken To So Many Recruiters and The All Tell me I have to Be Off my Medication Since 5 and I am only Taking 1 meds for Epilepsy and and The EEO office Told Me If I Go Off Such and Such I Can get in. The Also Told Me To Apply through USA jobs I have done that For a Long Time And I Never Got in
Some of these comments are old but to anyone currently worried about meps and waivers, just trust the process. I have a neuro condition sense birth and was immediately disqualified and was extremely upset because the marines weren't the best when it came to waivers but with one request of my medical records i was able to immediately get approved and went that same week back to meps and got my ship out date. trust the process
I keep telling myself “if it’s in my cards, I’ll play em.” I feel strongly in my soul this is my fuckin path man. I went to school for something else, and felt like that’s not my calling. Army has been heavy on my mind for years and finally scratched that itch and in that long ass enlistment process
What if you were convicted of a domestic violence charge and can't own a firearm? I think the only way I can restore the right is if the governor of CO gives me a pardon, which is unlikely. I have no other offenses... Never been in trouble except for this.
@@MsRotorwingsI can’t own a firearm and my recruiter is getting me in didn’t say anything about my charge other then needing a waiver which I’m sure I will get since it was 9 years ago and the only charge I ever had
Thanks for the video. Been waiting on waivers for about 5 months. My recruiter said it’s because the fiscal year was close to ending so they weren’t going to start approving waivers until this month (October ‘21). My question is about how you say to work with multiple recruiters. My situation I feel like I have to kind of kiss my recruiters ass because my options to join are limited due to my age. The national guard is pretty much my only option with the MOS I want. We’re you talking about working with recruiters of different branches or just different recruiters in general? Like can I talk to other National Guard recruiters while I’m being recruited already? My packet is complete, it’s been sent out for waiver approval to go to MEPS but it has been a struggle just getting my recruiter to talk to me or give me any updates. Like, he did what he was supposed to do as far as getting my packet and waiver requests in but he seemed pretty unenthusiastic about it and like I said he rarely answers me when I’m asking for updates. How would you proceed?
My recruiter turned me away today due my raynuads, and a minor auto immune disorder. Would you think I would be able to talk to different recruiters or different branches to get a waiver? He said that’s an immediate disqualification. I’m just scared of meps disqualifying me even after I go through the process again.
The reality is that In Meps they don't check for Medical Records it's just if you give them a reason to. So what you should do is be quiet about your Medical History and Talk with another person.
I just got a wavier for a tattoo of an anarchy sign tattoo on my neck. It takes up the entire right side of my neck. I think they are in desperate need of people and are handing out waivers like they’re nothing right now.
Thank god I saw this one, I have a neck tattoo as well and I gotta Geta waiver for it. I hope I pass meps next week. How was the whole genesis thing for you???
@@Enviro-Data everything went good. I have “kaos” across my knuckles and a anarchy symbol on my neck. Both got waived on the first try. My eyes are so bad that I was the only one the eye doctor held up fingers for and asked how many were up. On my hearing test some of my scores were 35 (0-10 is normal) so I have hearing loss. I swore in that day and leave on the 6th. Be nice, stay calm and don’t say anything you don’t have to. I have a giant facial scar that follows my eye brow and goes down my face, I had no paperwork for it, doc just ignored it. They need people. Side note; I’m 33 years old and qualified for airborne. You’ll be fine, you got this.
Did they find anything on genesis that you didn't disclose that "surprised you"? I got all No on my 2807 but im worried about some shit I may have forgot from when I was a kid or somthing @@narcissisticcapitalist443
I think its time the army looks at other militaries and the way they handle active vs reserves. The IDF has totally different training and standards for its non combat roles. The training is about 4 weeks basic then school training. The British Army does the same for its reserves, as does the canadian and Australians among others. If we did the same, it would open up opportunities for folks to join in non combat roles or in the reserves or both. It will also save money on training which can be allocated to AD to recruitment incentives and marketing. We operate on a WWI era model that needs to change or the army will start finding itself divisions short of its goals.
I got popped for smoking weed in the Army and received a general under honorable conditions discharge and re4. Which wavier can i get and How likely can I get a waiver for this ?
My record is over 10 years old. I've got 2 felonies and 4 misdemeanors.....I was a stupid kid.....non violent. One recruiter said I had too many misdemeanors. Do I talk to another army recruiter?
Yes keep trying never give up bro try 7 different recruiters if you have to I promise out of those 7 one will get you in try it I have a recruiter helping me and I have a felony and 4 duis
I got pretty lucky. I needed 7 waivers and my recruiter has been very helpful thankfully. Sadly I need so many 😩🤣however, I do take a lot of time to go on TH-cam find videos and I get what he needs before he ever ask for it tbh 🤷🏻♀️
Absolutely true. My recruiter hasnt really contacted me ever since I told him i have self harm scars on my right upper thigh that are years old. Im going to look for other recruiters because he's not trying to work with me.
do not lose faith. i got a self harm waiver approved a few years ago for the air force (of all branches) maybe i was lucky? who knows? but you never know unless you try! and be honest and adamant about your past and how you’ve changed and that it doesn’t define you. especially when you speak to the doctor at meps. let them know that it was in your past, and it was a mistake you’d never do it again.
I wouldn’t say it is self harm I know it’s good to be honest but they can’t prove it’s self harm You can say it’s a scar from playing with kids or something if it’s not documented in paper by a dr then it didn’t happen
Self harm gets waived all.the.time. Be up front. Be honest with the MEPS doc and tell them when and why. May need a psych consult if the waiver person asks for one. Be honest. Be humble. Don’t give up. And tell that first recruiter they’re a retard! LOL
I was kicked for popping hot. Have a OTH BAD CONDUCT RE4, I retained a lawyer. And hopefully with upgrade my discharge, my goal is to get back into the military. My lawyer said it’s possible with a waiver.
I’m trying to get into the coast guard I failed my hearing test 3 times I have no prior hearing problems and honestly don’t even know how I failed. Does anyone know what’s most likely going to happen? I’m very anxious about weather I’m going to get approved or not
@@akeemsulaiman6824 go onto portals/apps for the provider and make sure 3rd party sharing or healthcare information exchange is turned off. If it’s not electronic you then have to contact the provider directly and fill out paperwork. I did this and it made my life much easier at MEPS. Still needed a waiver, but it was for something minute and not a permanent DQ.
I tried joining the United States, Coast Guard, I’m 23, but they disqualified me because of a peanut and wheat allergy that doesn’t even really bother me. I even got a waiver from my doctor and they still disqualified me. I’m struggling to see why I should even give any effort into moving forward with the military if they’re going to nitpick me Throughout the process.
If you work with multiple recruiters, do you tell the new recruiters you’re working with other recruiters. And do you tell your old recruiter about the new one?
I’m trying to go the the Navy. However, I haven’t heard from them yet. I’ve been waiting for about nearly 2 months now. Still haven’t heard anything. My question is do I keep hope on waiting or just throw in the towel?🤷🏾♂️
bruh definitely reach out again. If you're worried about being annoying or something so what. it's your whole future so better to reach out and find out
I joined the bevy at 17. Bottom line dicked around for in trouble for just being a idiot nothing major. They do have me a re4. What are the chances of joining anywhere else?
I have three misdemeanors for weed. From when I was younger. I attempted to join and they said I was permanently disqualified. I guess I’ll get them expunged and try again.
Expunged does not matter. They’ll see everything. Treat every branch and job like you’ll get a secret clearance. Did u listen to what this guy said? Find the right recruiter. U need 5 MAJOR misdemeanors to not be able to enlist at all. 3? For weed? Dude don’t give up on ur dream. If u want this bad enough, fucking get it.
u think I have a chance I called the army and they said no because of the distribution charge. It’s been over 2 years now I’m out of jail been off probation for 2 years . Any advice thx for the video
I did my asvab retest today, and I didn’t get the score I wanted for the job in the AF how ever I pretty much qualified for another job in the army I got my eyes on, but I was off by like 5 points on the GT part, a army recruiter said I can get it waivered by meps is that possible ?
hey not sure if you're still getting these but im desperate, my dream was to be in the Air Force and I can't think of myself doing anything different. however, I have "mild intermittent asthma". I run 20 miles a week, lift weights, and got a 97 on the Air Force fitness test. however, I was denied at first, applied for a waiver and still was denied. is there anything else I can do?
The army can’t find enough people to join. As long as they are looking for perfect, they will continue to fall short
That's the truth. I'm prior service and on meds... that they gave me, and I'm about to go through an uphill battle to re-up. I don't mind the challenge. I just need a few meds, a couple can be dropped with fitness. A few are hereditary and needed by a certain age. They'd give them anyways if I stayed in, in the first place. My cousin just retired from 20 years active and is taking pretty much what I am and I want back in since I am at a point I can do it. Just gotta fight the MEPS boss.
Bringing in crippled dope heads with an IQ of 60 is not the answer.
@@AstroEscapesounds like such a pain in the ass for both you and them the rules are stupid ugh
THANK U BROTHER IM SAYING THE SAME SAMN THING BRA ! Fuck they asses ! People like us who wanna join cant cause robots like thesw clowns im better of joining RUSSIA 🇷🇺 AT LEAST THEY WONT BE ON SOME GOOFY SHIT LIKE HERE !! Que see vallan a la verga !!!
Exactly. Horseshit medical disqualifiers
Asthmatics should join, minor hard of hearing should join.
Hey guys. Last August, I attempted to go to MEPs but was temporarily disqualified. Over the course of several months, I received several LORs from doctors, my teachers, and my counselor. Today, my waiver was approved, and I am meant to go to MEPs again this Friday. This process has been extremely harsh on me. When I was initially declined, I thought it was over. I just wanted to leave a comment here saying that if you're in the process or require a waiver to enlist, go for it. It may take time, but in the end, it's worth it. Remember, don't give up. Just because the military entrance process is odd in some ways doesn't mean you cannot join your desired branch. Keep at it!
Thank you I need that ❤
ong felt this goin on for months continuous allergy test just to acquire this waiver
What did you need a waiver for ?
@@kasko909 ADHD, and for some minor surgeries.
Today is one of the worst days because my recruiter just sent me an email saying that I'm disqualified for enlistment. In this PDF I received says that I do not meet the waiver criteria. Is there still a possibility for me to enlisting?
{{The Air Force does have the ability to grant medical waivers beyond the standards listed in this
instruction, but after a thorough review, taking into consideration your medical condition(s) and how
it(they) applies(apply) to the needs of the Air Force, and your own health and safety, it was determined by
our medical team that your condition(s) also does not meet waiver criteria for accession as annotated
below:
DISQ Q82.4 - Ectodermal dysplasia (anhidrotic= inability to sweat) --------->> I'm 19 played sports all mi life and never had a heart issue.
DISQ H52.209 - Unspecified astigmatism, unspecified eye}}
{{Unfortunately, your condition(s) is(are) such that even with the passage of time, a waiver would not be
considered in the future. However, if an error was made regarding your prior diagnosis, then new clinical
notes (not just a memo from a provider) about the status of the condition may be provided to your
recruiter, who can submit them to our medical waiver division and a re-inquiry into your case would be
possible.}}
For everyone
Struggling to get in for whatever bullshit reason they give you I want you to remember with the recruitment crisis the way it is and global tensions at a boiling point they need you alot more then you need them. Find something else life we all have our callings.
Most people are joining as their last option, if I don't get a waiver processed then I'll be homeless
@A_Mind_For_Change you got this bro you might end up on the street or in your car for a few months but it will all work out in the end and hopefully you'll get in.
@@Lleesstreett if they reject me for this, I am gonna call the army see if they will get me the waivers. If not, forget the stupid armed forces, bunch of wankers.
The military has always been my calling though, since I got denied I have lost all direction in life, though I get your point and logically you're right and I can do better than joining the military, it's just difficult to give it up, it's literally the only thing I've been dreaming off since I was 6.
Sorry for the short rant, just wanted to add that for some people, the military isn't just an opportunity thing, but a real calling
@gunterdapenguin5896 same story here it's what I wanted to do but couldn't get in because of prescription mental health drugs I took in the past
It all boils down to if your recruiter is willing to do the paperwork. You can go one center and have a lazy recruiter who will lie then go to another one to where they are willing and they will put it in to you.
It's not about being lazy, you can lose out on meeting 2-3 BETTER candidates wasting your time on a lose/lose proposition. Lose because you are letting in a possible dirt bag you will have to serve with, but also lose because they may have a hard time adapting getting in trouble all the time and be like this whiner on TH-cam complaining that you are being targeted..
Thank you so much for this honest video. You brought hope back to my life. I’ve been trying for 10 years and getting closer to that glorious day.
I took a no for about 6 years. Then I needed help paying for college and the desire never left so I tried again 4 years later. They said no. Defeated I payed for college myself but I went back after college. The waivers I needed were moral so it prevents me from being an officer but my packet is being sent up for consideration soon. This is I think the last time at 34, but I finally have a recruiter who wants to work with me even before he knew I got a 98 on the asvab and I have 2 degrees but it took a lot to get here so what I'm saying is run it into the ground if this is what you want
You trying to be active or reserve? What’s a moral type waiver? I’m working on paying my huge student loans before approaching military about medical waiver with my IT background. Age 36
@@jonasbaine3538 a moral waiver means you have a criminal record or disqualifying events, but the waiver is an appeal that goes up the chain for approval. It's a long process and most recruiters just don't want to go through the paperwork, it takes time finding one who is willing to. I'm going through the same thing. I've gotten plain "no" from a recruiter, even though they are not the ones who make the decision, senior leadership does
@@elitehaxxor8025 I’ve also got a straight no. I have a felony and now I have a recruiter who is very willing to work with me and I think part of it is because their recruitment is down.
U got this bro, keep going never give up!!
Do they check hills owing IRs
Thank you. I’ve been wanting to join the Air Force for a few years now, and a lot of this stuff I haven’t even taken into account yet. I appreciate how informative you were as well.
The air force doesn't give out waivers
@@jacobalpers7080 yeah they do
I have a right bundle branch block with my heart, white coat syndrome where my BP and HR vets high because I get nervous (but it’s normal when I’m home or not at the doctor) Been working with the Air Force, they gave up on me, Army got in medically cleared in 20 days. I went to meps all the way back in december and was finally cleared today. If y’all want this, don’t give up. Put your mind to it, give it your all and you’ll get in. Super excited now that I can enlist.
When I joined and 98, I was a high school dropout and had a GED and was 60 pounds overweight. The first recruiter laughed me out of the room. I went to see a second recruiter, super motivated. I love that guy he used to wake me up in the morning to go running and studying. I ended up losing 60 pounds in 60 days passing my asvab on the second try and the rest is history. Oh, I also forgot. The first sergeant wanted to force me to join the reserves. I guess it was easier for him but I started crying and told him how hard at work and he ended up helping me join and he told me you’re going to be a combat engineer so I don’t want you coming back here and cussing me out lol.
How did you like your mos? I'm going into the reserves as a 12b next month.
@@squidbra wouldn’t trade it for the world we have a strong history of being the baddest mf on earth. Big rivalry with the infantry. But also the hardest most shitty job pounding pickets for 4 days straight no break, riding around with all kinds of explosives bouncing all around. It’s a crazy job that no one knows about unless you were in the army
You cried?
@@stldweller yes I did!
@@Cichlidman Still not as Badass as the Seabees!
I have a recruiter that is pushing me to get in, thank goodness. It’s been 6 months of this medical waiver BS and I’m still waiting
i’ve been waiting about 4 months now
@@bellaegan8493 yeah, good luck. I got medically declined after a year of fighting the waiver
@@thefuture4266what’s your medical issue if you don’t mind
I was “over qualified” for every officer position they had listed as an option for me. But I would never be allowed in cause I’ve taken anxiety meds for over a year. With a ever growing anxious and depressed youth, the military needs to start rethinking it’s medical exam
Im so glad I found this video! I actually got contacted by a Navy recruiter and trying to get back in now with an RE3E code and I wanna give the military one more shot because my current job is just a mental hivemind of stupidity.
What is your current job if you don't mind me asking?
How is it going now?
No arrest should be a DQ. Unless you're convicted of a violent felony, they shouldn't be able to reject you in my opinion.
Prior service Air Force trying to get into the Army, started the process about a week ago. I'm liking my recruiter so far, He's brand new to recruiting and seemed excited to work with me. Luckily for me I saved pretty much every document I was given throughout my Air force recruiting/MEPS process in a three ring binder and had just about every document they needed on my first visit so that made his life easier like you said. Looking forward to my check in with him in a week to get this process moving. I just gotta lose some weight and get into shape and pray I dont need too many waivers lol Great video man
They kicked me out last day of but got “asthma”
My pulmonary test at my unit was cleared. I had gotten a lung infection Ku first week there due to the lack of cleanliness of the area(they hadn’t cleaned it in a year and even my Sgts were kind of pissed)
I’ve been stuck in a long Air Force process because I had surgery. Almost a year now and I’ve given my recruiter several clearance letters that I’m all healed up and my doctor is starting to get pissed off and so am I. I’m thinking about the Army now.
By all means, try for Army. I was turned off by an Air Force recruiter that was standoffish with me so I turned to Army. And I enjoy it. Best decision I have made. Makes me feel glad I did not try for Air Force.
@@Mariescott3380 Did you have any thing, that required a moral waiver?
I'm someone with a felony that was dismissed because I served probation and it was stricken from the record. In normal life, I don't have any record of it, in military eyes, I do. I went to a recruiter and he said there was no chance, and just told me no. He didn't offer to even get a waiver up the line. As of right now, I haven't talked to a recruiter because I'm so discouraged. Today marks the day where I'm going to find a recruiter who is willing to go through the process with/for me and I'll accept my fate if it gets denied.
Whats the update
What’s the update?
I was convicted of domestic assault four years ago, and my waiver has been accepted.
I'm probably the 1% of DV convictions that'll get in
How long did it took after sending the waiver ?
@@alonsosotelo5032 From the time I went to my recruiter to the time I ship out is less than 45 days.
Very true!! I 1st tried when i was 21ish, had a bad recruiter. Now im 36, and im joining!
That is stupid don't join.
@@Donner906why not join ?
@@Eyes_of_Oryx Bad pay, Bad leadership, working with criminals, the list goes on.
Also, I don't like racist skinheads and Nazis.
I have alot of medical problems and my first military recruiter was very shady, lied to meps and when it got too hard for them they told me meps said no, i got called by a new recruiter in the same sub station telling everyone got canned and it was a new team, there was no record of previous disqualification. Make sure you can trust your recruiter.
Thanks for the update sir
Was living on the east coast and needed a waiver for Re 3 code like you were saying in the last video. Those recruiters said I’d have to wait a full year to even start the reenlistment process. Moved to Georgia and just went to the recruiter and she’s already talking about starting the waiver within the next two weeks! Your recruiter definitely decides if they want to help
Once you get pass MEPS AND YOU need a code 3 for a conduct waiver... you basically got it... but to get to that point with a recruiter is the hard part.
Thanks I needed to hear this currently waiting on an allergy waiver
What is a code 3? I've been to meps and passed and passed asvab, been waiting on moral waiver for 4 months now
@@patrickashmen2098 what’s the update
@@DFlames99 still waiting bro. 8 months now
@@patrickashmen2098 I’m in the same situation , only difference is I’m waiting for my recruiter to get back to me to see if they are willing to pull through with a moral waiver , but I have not went to meps
I have a DUI on my record and a broke 2 vertabrae 5 years ago. Army recruiter said I was going to waste my time and every recruiters' time if I continued to pursue a career in the military. As I was leaving his office and heading back to my truck, the Marine recruiter came hollered at me from the door. He changed my life.
I am joining the Navy. I have passed EVERYTHING except my blood pressure. I got two good readings for the waiver process, so I HOPE I can get approved no issues, but based off everything I have seen and heard, I can't be 100% on anything with this MEPs process. Luckily my recruiter feels I'll have no issues here.
They need to get rid of all this extra bullshit paperwork an requirements.
Ur fuckin telling me. I’m stressing out over here. Thank god I found an amazing recruiter. If I don’t get in, which I’m hoping that’s not the case, I know my recruiter has done all she can do for me. She’s my mentor, and I look up to her. An amazing person. I wish this recruiter on every person looking to enlist
Going on three months since I stated the waiver process and still nothing kinda on the end of the rope having to wait on a response from meps is very annoying
I really want USMC OCS, but I’m weaning off Zoloft and I’m not looking forward to the hoops I’m gonna have to jump through for this
I probably tell my recruiter the truth as she want me to be in the army as I was interested on joining but the one biggest problem is my sketchy past of my misdemeanor convictions and warnings by both the Goergia Government and the United States Government as only 4 convicted I was framed by my foe (I hate him so much he ruin my career and my life as I lost everything) . But two is by my own because I was stupid and made the wrong choice. But I’m not giving up
Don’t give up!!!
Using Army iPerms helped the recruiter and I make the process easier. Now just sitting and waiting for higher ups to give the approval to go active duty.
Thanks for this. Ive been going on for 2 years now. Trying to get a medical waiver and ive been throught about 6 different recruiters so far lol.
Let it go.
@@vr7142 why? would you give up? if you’re in the military then they teach you not to do that right? you don’t give up because someone tells you to stop trying. You give up when you can no longer possibly continue, and in his case he’s most likely got awhile before that happens. Maybe you aren’t in the military, maybe your in the same boat, but just because you quit doesn’t mean other people have to become complacent
@@somerandomdudethatcommente5191 I was in the Army but I got chaptered out for a history of suicide attempts the reason I told him to let it go is because sometimes things are just not meant to be and letting things go is easier and will eventually bring peace to someone
@@somerandomdudethatcommente5191 well said. I've been trying for 3 years. Several waivers have been accepted. Should be swearing in sometime next month. Don't give up bro. Keep training keep your drive.
@@vr7142 wait you got chaptered out of the Army for a history of suicide attempts? were the suicide attempts documented before you joined the army?
I have a flag on my record (or that's how they put it) because I have a scar for self harm and I didn't know that there were waivers for that. It's been like 4 years since and I really would like to enlist, but recruiters won't even answer me. I'm still looking for a recruiter that will try to help me to see if I can get a waiver. My score in the ASVAB was really high and I passed the physical so that's the only thing holding me back.
Have you tried a Navy recruiter?
don’t say it’s from self harm…don’t give too much out just say it’s a “childhood scar”
@@m0neybaggvee what would be a good lie
@@firstname474 you dont want to lie, but you should, as they put it, "keep it simple stupid". If they dont ask about it, no need to go into all the details. It wouldnt be lying if you said it was a childhood scar and it actually was, you just dont need to go into detail unless they specifically ask you to. If meps catch you in a lie they probably will not accept you.
@@firstname474 i got a self harm waiver approved in 2019 for the air force. be honest, and adamant that it was a mistake and it doesn’t define you.
I have eczema on the top of my hands and I was already rejected from the air force because of that, but I am looking at the other branches but I don't have high expectations when it comes to making it. I would lie about not having it, but if in any case it flares up due to the weather or anything else then it would be bad.
I just found out about wavers as I am a half inch too short to join the military
@@erikburzinski8248 You just gotta fake it till make it.
Many of people fail the asvab exam testing that exam see if your smart if my leg get blow up or K.I.A what that test going to do for me
After watching your video, I realize that I had a bad recruiter so I went to a different office and a different recruiter completely night and day one made it seem like it was a hassle for me to get in and the other made it seem like he would do what he can to get me in
You are absolutely correct about that I had multiple recruiters who swept me under the rug until I met a recruiter from Missouri and she went the extra mile to get me in and I was able to swear in. She was impressed with the dedication that I put forth regarding the military and I told her I had been trying since 2015. But also around that time my father died and it derailed EVERYTHING including my time at Basic and now im ready to come back in and complete Basic. But this time im going to need a age wavier and a medical waiver due to having a IEP while in HS and ill be turning 36 in about a month or two. How would that whole process work for me? I also have documents regarding my discharge code on my DD214's. The more I look back everything it makes me really want to come back and finish.
You’re too old now 35 is the army’s age limit.
I started my paperwork to get back in the military 7 months ago and my recruiter sent my waiver a month ago because I had to give them ALL the documents I needed. I received an RE-3 JFW for “Asthma” when it was really COVID-19.. I have every paper document proving it was COVID & I took many tests stating I do not have Asthma anymore. The thing is, I got a waiver FOR asthma & since i basically got kicked out bc of “Asthma” it looks really bad on my paperwork. I’m really scared because I REALLY WANT TO SERVE IN THE MILITARY like my dedication to the military is really high. I was hoping someone can help me out here 😅 I don’t have Asthma it was covid-19 & my medical records even says i had covid-19. What should I do?
I've heard from other videos that getting a statement from a doctor that you do not have asthma helps. I'm not sure how that could be included into your file, I suppose it would vary defending on what part of the process you're in
Update: Everything got approved & I ship out to Ft. LWOOD next week 😌
@@Tahzir proud of you
@@Tahzir pls help me!! i had covid about a month ago it was covid 19 pneumonia. They prescribed me an inhaler bc i couldn’t breathe due to the covid. It says on my history that it was covid and asthma but it was not asthma !
Hey maybe you can, help me, I’m 18 still in high school and have a heart problem, I have to get surgery, soon but my heart should be back to normal, and no more surgery for the rest of my life, do u think it’s possible for me to join? I have asthma too, but I know I can get rid of that all I have to do is run that away for a couple of weeks, I’m in 12th grade and I have 2 more weeks of school left, I would love to join the army, please help me thank you. And do u think if my doctor has a wavier for my heart, do u think that will help? I’m more consider about my heart than my asthma, bc like I told u before asthma can go away in a couple of weeks, all I have to do is run like crazy. Thank you
great video; it shows that you are wise beyond your years, and u should always be considered as a good asset. The military needs to always retain or allow reentry fast track. you would have been an amazing Air Force personalist who would have gained rank fast. or a good recruiter or Air Force career advisor. if you have prior service or even a potential recruit, do all you can do to provide information or help to your recruiter to save them headaches. especially if your prior service
I tried to get in for 14 years what was held back by a bullshit medical waiver. I said bullshit because it was a non-issue but MEPS decided to give me an impossible task to get the waiver. I recently started talking to the National Guard and when I told the recruiter the story he got really frustrated. “ we are in a recruitment crisis and they keep tossing perfectly acceptable candidates over non-issues and claiming we’re not doing our best to meet our quota’s!”
I was in the air force. I thought everyone got security clearences until I joined the army. Huge culture shock.
never trust a recruiter.
Currently trying to get into the Air Force. Have an underage age and open container, also have another record that got sealed. Waiting for my waivers to go through for that and my drug use. Also needed a waiver for my pass adhd medication use. My recruiter is great and I’m just waiting to see if I can go to meps. Wish me luck.
did you get into meps
Update
The only thing I’m worried is my hearing, I do have a slight hearing loss, basically need a hearing aid if I’m in a classroom, or if someone is trying to talk to me behind a glass window/ or wearing a mask and it sounds muffled.
I do hear that I can get a wavier for this.
Guess I should have gotten a waiver? I am flat footed and served for 21.5 years!!
The Air Force and Navy both took me but the army did not…. Which really hurt but I tried
May I ask why? My heart is with army
@@sarahjane2277 it was about my speech impediment from the 4th grade which put me in IED from 4th to 6th. I don’t have an impediment now. Update on me I’m in the Navy as a rescue swimmer stationed in Japan. A lot has happened
@@GrainCur did u try to get a waiver? If it doesn’t affect u now I don’t see why they wouldn’t take u
I had tourettes and it recently went away, wondering if my waiver will work this time
In March and April of 2017 I had cateract surgery on both my right and left eyes. In October 2021 I applyied for a medical waiver for cateracts, and my Navy recruiter doesn't respond to my text messages anymore. I don't know the status of waiver or nothing
Your recruiter isnt a good one and probably will not push for the waiver to be approved. Find another recruiter who will go the extra mile to get you approved
sounds like that recruiter cares more about money than the people they are recruiting. find a new one
Ah, you’re talking about the Army National Guard which is quite a bit different than the Regular Army. I spent 8 years stuck in USAREC (Active Army Recruiting Command) as a recruiter and I got my V7 qualification which is Ops/Guidance Counselor and I spent 12 months working at LA Rctg Bn in the S3 shops as the Bn Waiver Tech where I processed all types of waivers. UR 350-6 covers all waivers and what’s required for those waivers. On the Active Army side it’s fairly simple for the recruiter to submit a waiver, if it’s a med waiver then it may need some more med records or some medical test or scan from a civilian doctor that will help the Army Med Command be able to make their decision. But be well aware of this; most of the recruiters that work in S3 can be lazy and care less but about 1/3 of the waiver staff actually gives a damn. I was able to get same day waivers approved because I picked up the phone and talked with the applicants recruiter or station commander and told them exactly what I needed it and if I got it in time, I could get him enlisted. Some of us worked hard to help recruiters since many are located hours away from MEPS and it takes a LOT of time to drive back and forth and that takes away time from looking for new prospects. After a couple months the S3 waiver techs will be able to tell when a waiver is likely to be approved or denied no matter what and the tech can advise the recruiter or whoever asks. Qualification standards are always evolving, USAREC sends out messages to make immediate changes for waivers and it’s usually for the better but, the average field recruiter is completely unaware of these daily messages so they don’t know that a prospect that was unqualified a month ago is now able to submit a waiver and hopefully enlist. Those messages are on the USAREC homepage but you’ll need your CAC card access to see them, they used to be open to the public until about 6 years ago. Dependency waivers (wife and number of kids) are the ones that almost never get approved so try and find a way for the prospect to get an advance promotion to qualify as per AR 601-210 Ch. 2. The person that is the most critical,part of a waiver processing is the Company 1SG, he’s able to call S3 any time he wants and get a status check on people in his pipeline and kick some ass if things aren’t getting a response. The good 1SG’s would call me about twice a week and politely inquire and ask for any advice I can provide to get it approved or speed up the process, the S3 shop will talk with DA waiver techs who’re often career recruiters as well and many of those 1SG’s probably know some of those people and sometimes I’ll tell that good 1SG who I spoke with and here’s their phone number so he can catch up with an old buddy and while he’s at it, inquire about his waivers. Because of my actions, I made more enlistments happen that would otherwise fall through. If we don’t deliver on what we told an applicant then as we waste time waiting on a waiver, the applicant may lose interest or his girlfriend will convince him to stay or anything else you can imagine, it’s just how we are as humans.
I know GENESIS is a pure pain but there’s always a way to work within its limits and go forward, and if you’re a recruiter, don’t be afraid to do some digging and be resourceful, don’t throw your hands up and quit. A station commander can call S3 and get some updates but some S3 shops may be run by a Dick and he/she won’t entertain calls from anyone but CLT leadership members. If that’s the case, make a friend in the S3 shop, chances are that the SC worked with someone in that shop beforehand and are good friends, little things like that will help. If you’ve heard of the 20/80 rule about who does the actual work in any organization, it’s very accurate, I’ve never seen so many lazy people in my life! One guy just sat in his cubicle checking his investments online while the phone is constantly ringing but the NCOIC didn’t care. And never assume a damn thing when it comes to your applicant, ask the hard questions so you hear the direct answer. Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups!
I later returned to the Infantry and later retired, USAREC back then was hell, too many mentally challenged leaders, just unreal. We often worked from 0830-2200 daily and at least half a day on Saturday. And we’d often talk with some prospects after work hours if they return a call or something. We’d never call people past 2100-2130, it’s always counterproductive to do that. Now for national guard recruiting, that’s a different beast. National guard uses the MEPS for the physical and ASVAB but that’s about it, they don’t share our waiver system/network and use their own. So it may be the national guard recruiter that’s the bottleneck in the waiver process or something else, hell if I know. I hope all my babbling helped explain some things, recruiters do care about each prospect they work with, we don’t approach just everyone, I’d choose people I’d share a foxhole with (in 26 years I only dug 2 foxholes, lol.) since who wants to talk with some arrogant momma’s boy? I enjoyed helping good people get a job they want and something way more interesting than working at some factory or some job people hate but do it for the money to survive. A good sense of humor and the ability to actually care for people is important if you plan on being a recruiter, you can’t fake genuine concern. I wish all of you well and do great things in your life!
I’m looking at joining the army as a 15T but as a juvenile had mental health encounters and a minor arrest and I’m worried about being disqualified despite not being on any medications. And trying to figure out what all I need to
same exact sh!t. waiting on my recruiter to respond with info on the waivers
Recruiters today just give you websites to figure it out on your own. They are there basically to act as a notary to witness you signing.
Bro I remember you from target, you were the LP there. I just passed my test. About to take my physical and get a tattoo waiver.
I got a waiver back in 2019 for the Marines because I have a plate in my head. It took 1 year, but it was easy. Not ALL waivers are impossible...
4 years ago i tried and kept bugging my recruiter for the national guard but he eventually stopped contacting me. I did give up. But now 4 years later i have a recruiter who is helping me out to get through. Ssg Mitchell. Hes taking the extra steps. Im 33 now but im ready for this and i cant wait
Now mhs genesis is stalling everything
I probably should’ve found this video first. Age limit opened to just before your 42nd birthday in Oct ‘23 for AF/SF & Navy. I found this out during Xmas and waited till January. My AF recruiter was hardly ever in office and not very responsive during our texts, but in person seemed to be interested in getting me in. My situation was/is kind of dire, since I have only a GED and haven’t built any kind of career. I’m fit from Martial Arts and dancing and scored 94 on ASVAB. I began to see more & more how I could benefit from the brotherhood & discipline in the military to take advantage of my capabilities. My recruiter couldn’t get me to MEPS till about 3 weeks before my birthday in May, and 2 medical waivers made sure I ran out of time. I then applied to my next option of Army Reserve, which after a month got rejected for same 2 medical visits. Wish I knew to pick the recruiter who was down to make it happen and not lazy like my first one.
I Have Epilepsy I Have Spoken To So Many Recruiters and The All Tell me I have to Be Off my Medication Since 5 and I am only Taking 1 meds for Epilepsy and and The EEO office Told Me If I Go Off Such and Such I Can get in. The Also Told Me To Apply through USA jobs I have done that For a Long Time And I Never Got in
Some of these comments are old but to anyone currently worried about meps and waivers, just trust the process. I have a neuro condition sense birth and was immediately disqualified and was extremely upset because the marines weren't the best when it came to waivers but with one request of my medical records i was able to immediately get approved and went that same week back to meps and got my ship out date. trust the process
Thx Nathan. I have a neurological condition as well, I know it’s case by case. But even this comment helps
I keep telling myself “if it’s in my cards, I’ll play em.” I feel strongly in my soul this is my fuckin path man. I went to school for something else, and felt like that’s not my calling. Army has been heavy on my mind for years and finally scratched that itch and in that long ass enlistment process
What if you were convicted of a domestic violence charge and can't own a firearm? I think the only way I can restore the right is if the governor of CO gives me a pardon, which is unlikely. I have no other offenses... Never been in trouble except for this.
You can’t join if you can’t own a firearm. You won’t get a waiver for a domestic violence charge.
@@MsRotorwingsI can’t own a firearm and my recruiter is getting me in didn’t say anything about my charge other then needing a waiver which I’m sure I will get since it was 9 years ago and the only charge I ever had
Thanks for the video. Been waiting on waivers for about 5 months. My recruiter said it’s because the fiscal year was close to ending so they weren’t going to start approving waivers until this month (October ‘21). My question is about how you say to work with multiple recruiters. My situation I feel like I have to kind of kiss my recruiters ass because my options to join are limited due to my age. The national guard is pretty much my only option with the MOS I want. We’re you talking about working with recruiters of different branches or just different recruiters in general? Like can I talk to other National Guard recruiters while I’m being recruited already? My packet is complete, it’s been sent out for waiver approval to go to MEPS but it has been a struggle just getting my recruiter to talk to me or give me any updates. Like, he did what he was supposed to do as far as getting my packet and waiver requests in but he seemed pretty unenthusiastic about it and like I said he rarely answers me when I’m asking for updates. How would you proceed?
Update please
I’m looking at marines or army warrant officer if AF doesn’t work. I’m just trying to get a pension and benefits and tie it into getting a fed job
My recruiter turned me away today due my raynuads, and a minor auto immune disorder.
Would you think I would be able to talk to different recruiters or different branches to get a waiver? He said that’s an immediate disqualification. I’m just scared of meps disqualifying me even after I go through the process again.
The reality is that In Meps they don't check for Medical Records it's just if you give them a reason to. So what you should do is be quiet about your Medical History and Talk with another person.
MEPS pulls medical records in the EHR. I have personally seen someone given a waiver for raynauds. Talk to other branches. Be honest. Don’t give up!
Thank you for this video bro I’m looking to get a dependent waiver and possibly join👍
I just got a wavier for a tattoo of an anarchy sign tattoo on my neck. It takes up the entire right side of my neck. I think they are in desperate need of people and are handing out waivers like they’re nothing right now.
Thank god I saw this one, I have a neck tattoo as well and I gotta Geta waiver for it. I hope I pass meps next week. How was the whole genesis thing for you???
@@Enviro-Data everything went good. I have “kaos” across my knuckles and a anarchy symbol on my neck. Both got waived on the first try. My eyes are so bad that I was the only one the eye doctor held up fingers for and asked how many were up. On my hearing test some of my scores were 35 (0-10 is normal) so I have hearing loss. I swore in that day and leave on the 6th. Be nice, stay calm and don’t say anything you don’t have to. I have a giant facial scar that follows my eye brow and goes down my face, I had no paperwork for it, doc just ignored it. They need people. Side note; I’m 33 years old and qualified for airborne. You’ll be fine, you got this.
Did they find anything on genesis that you didn't disclose that "surprised you"? I got all No on my 2807 but im worried about some shit I may have forgot from when I was a kid or somthing
@@narcissisticcapitalist443
Anarchy symbol and you want to go into the military which is the opposite of anarchy?
I think its time the army looks at other militaries and the way they handle active vs reserves.
The IDF has totally different training and standards for its non combat roles. The training is about 4 weeks basic then school training.
The British Army does the same for its reserves, as does the canadian and Australians among others.
If we did the same, it would open up opportunities for folks to join in non combat roles or in the reserves or both. It will also save money on training which can be allocated to AD to recruitment incentives and marketing.
We operate on a WWI era model that needs to change or the army will start finding itself divisions short of its goals.
YES!!
If needing a waiver for a 6ml hernia, should I go get the surgery myself, let it heal then go talk o recruiter again?
Anyone trying to reenlist with re 3 for metal illness ? I need advice on getting back in and what kind of waiver would I need
I’m 30 with missing and bad teeth and my recruiter is going out of his way to work with me
I got popped for smoking weed in the Army and received a general under honorable conditions discharge and re4. Which wavier can i get and How likely can I get a waiver for this ?
Exemption to policy waiver
My record is over 10 years old. I've got 2 felonies and 4 misdemeanors.....I was a stupid kid.....non violent. One recruiter said I had too many misdemeanors. Do I talk to another army recruiter?
Yes keep trying never give up bro try 7 different recruiters if you have to I promise out of those 7 one will get you in try it I have a recruiter helping me and I have a felony and 4 duis
How old are you misd
@@SKIESTHELIMIT91.A felony and 4 DUI’s? A recruiter can only help so much. You won’t be able to join. You’re an alcoholic.
@@SKIESTHELIMIT91.where r u at today? Have u been able to enlist?
I have a question, what are all the documents you need to make their lives easier?
Birth certificate, social security card, High school/ college diplomas, references for residents (where you lived), criminal history, etc.
my current recruiter was my nco when i used to be in
I do have autism my recruiter said I can get a waver I was so happy
Did you get the waiver?
No
I got pretty lucky. I needed 7 waivers and my recruiter has been very helpful thankfully. Sadly I need so many 😩🤣however, I do take a lot of time to go on TH-cam find videos and I get what he needs before he ever ask for it tbh 🤷🏻♀️
Absolutely true. My recruiter hasnt really contacted me ever since I told him i have self harm scars on my right upper thigh that are years old. Im going to look for other recruiters because he's not trying to work with me.
@@Texas_Armed210 even if they told the recruiter, meps will find out and they'll probably need a waiver
@@Texas_Armed210 I'm just sayin, I'd rather tell someone ahead of time cuz meps will know everything
do not lose faith. i got a self harm waiver approved a few years ago for the air force (of all branches) maybe i was lucky? who knows? but you never know unless you try! and be honest and adamant about your past and how you’ve changed and that it doesn’t define you. especially when you speak to the doctor at meps. let them know that it was in your past, and it was a mistake you’d never do it again.
I wouldn’t say it is self harm I know it’s good to be honest but they can’t prove it’s self harm
You can say it’s a scar from playing with kids or something if it’s not documented in paper by a dr then it didn’t happen
Self harm gets waived all.the.time. Be up front. Be honest with the MEPS doc and tell them when and why. May need a psych consult if the waiver person asks for one. Be honest. Be humble. Don’t give up. And tell that first recruiter they’re a retard! LOL
Instead of help me, they turn me down, so I totally lost hope in the army.
Congratulations! I hope i found a good recruiter.
I was kicked for popping hot. Have a OTH BAD CONDUCT RE4, I retained a lawyer. And hopefully with upgrade my discharge, my goal is to get back into the military. My lawyer said it’s possible with a waiver.
I’m trying to get into the coast guard I failed my hearing test 3 times I have no prior hearing problems and honestly don’t even know how I failed. Does anyone know what’s most likely going to happen? I’m very anxious about weather I’m going to get approved or not
Do you feel the NG is more inclined to give waivers?
I'm 18 rn, trying to join the military. A peanut allergy is what's stopping me the most.
Turn off 3rd party sharing with any and all past and present healthcare providers. You’ll thank me later.
How you do that?
@@akeemsulaiman6824 go onto portals/apps for the provider and make sure 3rd party sharing or healthcare information exchange is turned off. If it’s not electronic you then have to contact the provider directly and fill out paperwork. I did this and it made my life much easier at MEPS. Still needed a waiver, but it was for something minute and not a permanent DQ.
MEPS is a fucking joke. I’m waiting on a stupid waiver to be approved for a physical that’s valid for two years….
I already did basic training and everything.. I’m reenlisting into the US Navy.. I’ve already been out of the service more than 3 months..
Thanks to mhs genesis
@@anthonyrodriguez4122 all I have is the RE-3 waiver to be approved and then I swear in
@@secta7878 I am in already but I hear mhs Genesis is destroying military recruiting nationwide
How could I get a waiver if I got a 29 on asvab but need a 31 for army
I tried joining the United States, Coast Guard, I’m 23, but they disqualified me because of a peanut and wheat allergy that doesn’t even really bother me. I even got a waiver from my doctor and they still disqualified me. I’m struggling to see why I should even give any effort into moving forward with the military if they’re going to nitpick me Throughout the process.
That sucks, you could try another branch. Never give up
Coast Guard is not military...
They don’t going to find ppl. Like that, the only ones who’s are very selective is USMC
If you work with multiple recruiters, do you tell the new recruiters you’re working with other recruiters. And do you tell your old recruiter about the new one?
I’m trying to go the the Navy. However, I haven’t heard from them yet. I’ve been waiting for about nearly 2 months now. Still haven’t heard anything. My question is do I keep hope on waiting or just throw in the towel?🤷🏾♂️
bruh definitely reach out again. If you're worried about being annoying or something so what. it's your whole future so better to reach out and find out
I need age waiver and I am working to get my GED. Done
You are right try different services navy marines coast guard Air Force
I joined the bevy at 17. Bottom line dicked around for in trouble for just being a idiot nothing major. They do have me a re4. What are the chances of joining anywhere else?
What if you’ve completed the physical and medical at meps and passed the asvab with the army ? How does that work
Work with different recruiters: *laughs in coast guard*
I have three misdemeanors for weed. From when I was younger. I attempted to join and they said I was permanently disqualified. I guess I’ll get them expunged and try again.
Expunged does not matter. They’ll see everything. Treat every branch and job like you’ll get a secret clearance. Did u listen to what this guy said? Find the right recruiter. U need 5 MAJOR misdemeanors to not be able to enlist at all. 3? For weed? Dude don’t give up on ur dream. If u want this bad enough, fucking get it.
Can I get a medical waiver if I get a gastric bypass surgery and join the National Guard instead of active duty?
I know u can get a waiver for gastric sleeve army active duty. I don’t see why not for national guard.
u think I have a chance I called the army and they said no because of the distribution charge. It’s been over 2 years now I’m out of jail been off probation for 2 years . Any advice thx for the video
I got honorable discharge with re3h for hardship dependency and I was trying to stay in , how hard will this be to get into service?
It’s waiverable, talk to a recruiter about it and explain what happened with honesty.
What did you need a waiver for???
When they need people like national emergency they drafted anyone don’t matter what
ASK your recruiter about a disorderly conduct is that waiverable?
You know how long the waiver would take? Thx@@sarahjane2277
I did my asvab retest today, and I didn’t get the score I wanted for the job in the AF how ever I pretty much qualified for another job in the army I got my eyes on, but I was off by like 5 points on the GT part, a army recruiter said I can get it waivered by meps is that possible ?
My army recruiter was way more pushy than my AF, but I’m still aiming for Air Force, if not I’ll get a airborne contract with the army🥲
What if I got a 29 on the asvab but need a 31 to join infantry
@@mizaelkjv9407 don’t go infantry, do something that will help you in the civilian life.
But seems like I can’t find nobody helping me
Got turned away again today
Try a new recruiter
hey not sure if you're still getting these but im desperate, my dream was to be in the Air Force and I can't think of myself doing anything different. however, I have "mild intermittent asthma". I run 20 miles a week, lift weights, and got a 97 on the Air Force fitness test. however, I was denied at first, applied for a waiver and still was denied. is there anything else I can do?