@@nachosan216 nothing real interesting central powers punishment will be the same.only USA will be different. There are some historical propaganda on google images that what if usa joined central powers and lost ww1.you must search on goggle.
@@charlesnapoleon9070 it's possible but it'd be harder for a French or British Hitler to rise to power in those countries as there's a history of democracy there unlike Germany.
@@morsecode980 Perhaps. However, it would probably not be anywhere near the same scale. France simply didn't have the population to go on its own. Even if a Nazi France rose, it is unlikely it would be imperial Germany. Plus I doubt Britain would like France trying to reform Napoleon, despite their humiliation by the Germans. Remember the history of France and Britain is basically fueled hatred. But even if Britain stays out, Germany could take on France. And without it falling, world war II would be much less bloody.
@@zvallidto be fair only uneducated idiots blame Germany for ww1, anyone with half a Brain knows they weren’t good sure, but they certainly weren’t bad, hell if there was a bad guy in Europe it would be Belgium Great Britain, or the Ottoman Empire
Regardless of whatever peoples views are politically in the comments I think we can all agree that WW1 was most likely the most pointless war in history with an astonishing loss of life with little to show for it expect the pretence leading to WWII. There was no good or evil in the war. Just good men on both sides dying
Totally agree. It was just a bad situation of regional alliances coupled with an accident in Sarajevo. If you could point to a bad thing, it would have to be colonial greed.
WW1 was a war between the monarchical empires of the Victorian era and the democracies of the modern era. It defined how we would enter a new chapter of western civilization.
As an American. I believe, the US did have more to gain by joining the Central Powers. But, in the end we joined Britain and the Allies, because Germany tryed to get Mexico on there side. And we all know not to piss off the US!
That's the sad truth that no one was any better than other in the war yet Germany became a cartoonishly evil villain in the eyes of everyone. This was partialy due to British propaganda that convinced the Americans that the war was against war hungry tyrants, which made them dethrone monarchs and destroy empires which destabilized the world for decades to come.
As a Brit, I've always thought Americans and Germans seem more compatible than us Brits and Yanks. We may share the same language but our work ethic seems a lot closer to the French than to the factory-like Germans and Americans.
OilyDumplings I feel closer to the Germans as an American even though most my dna is from the UK including Irish, Scottish, English, and Welsh with my only known ancestry not originating from the UK is Dutch, and Native American it’s just our work ethic is way closer to Germany than The UK (by closer I mean better)
@@marka.1770 If you ask me , I hate from USA xd and I hope one day we will fuck usa with Russia , From Turkey ! th-cam.com/video/8uqQu1zps2M/w-d-xo.html
Better world, no Communism and no Nazis. And something like the Baby EU at the end of WW1. Germany wanted an economic union that unites all Countrys around Germany peaceful.
BRO WTF communism is good DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT IS IT?! no one would get hunger as in your capitalism! If all world was communism it would not war and only learn new technologies , EVERYONE WOULD HAVE WORK NO HOMELESS PEOPLE cmon fuck You bitch
@@mobilecyclop7329 haha, dude. Just look at the Soviets. No Hunger? That's literally the biggest problem of Communism! Communism was intent to be for the people. For the greater good, bit it isn't and it failed hard. Like fascism
Or you would an all electic Porsche. The frist car of Ferdinand Porsche was an Electric one. All engineers prefered the Electric over the combustion engine because it's more effective. But the WW1 made a mass production a Need and afterwards a lot of miliary cars and truck became used by civilians.
Or big jump in progress never happen,because no WW2 and,no Cold war.World can be at 1940-1950 era in our time,just because nobody give all this money to technology progressing. Anyway,no WW2 its still enough to make me love this scenario,lol. Also,srry for bad english.
America had a pretty low quality army back then so the allies still might have won especially considering Britain's navy would of stopped America even landing troops on mainland Europe so Germany would have been defeated and America would have just stopped as they would be fighting for nothing once Germany was defeated
American didn't want to become a world power and replace Britian at the time during or before WWI.. America wanted to just be left alone. Even after WWI, we just wanted to be left alone. Only after WWII did American find itself in such a position and decided to claim it instead of let the Soviet Union become the sole world power, cause no one else could
Not really. Remember the American Spanish War of 1898? We fought that war to gain control of Spanish colonies. When we won, we got Puerto Rico, Cuba, and the Philippines. Saying America isn't imperialist is wrong.
There is no way to know that ww2 would have never happened if the Germans won, the same thing that happened to the Wiemar Republic could've happened in the UK and France.
@AlienFirefox You really think that Germany would just go on some world conquest after they won the war? Against a very valuable ally no less? The British and French were exhausted after the war, it strained their economies and was not popular to the public due to the amount of casualties it caused. The same thing would happen in Germany, except there would be no hate fueled nationalistic revival like we saw in our timeline due to Hitler, and the hate towards the British and French not being there. If Germany could just go on some world conquest after they won, as you say. Then why didn't Britain or France conquer the world? It would be no different except Britain and France would switch roles with Germany. Also, when you say "If it wasn't for the soviet union, the Germans would have won." are you talking about ww1 or ww2? If you're talking about ww1, then you are mistaken. The Bolshevik revolution started when Germany let Lenin go back into Russia to destabilize the Russian Empire. But if Germany saw the Bolsheviks as a threat, after winning the war in the west, they would most likely have helped the whites and the other various independence movements against the Bolsheviks. But it is not certain they would win. The Bolsheviks played a very minor role in the war, they only destabilized the east. There was no conflict between Germany and the Bolsheviks. Lastly, it is not like if they won the war the countries they defeated would have simply given up. Similar things most likely would've happened in Britain and France as they did in Germany in our timeline. Hate towards the Germans would be at an all time high, and you would have people just like Hitler promising their former "rightful" land, and more. Later causing ww2. As a side note, please explain how Germany would have invaded America, with their economy in disarray and the people not wanting another costly war, it would have been impossible (at least during the 20s 30s and 40s) to successfully invade America.
It's not that difficult to imagine. There are quite many germans in the us and at that time most of them clearly stood to their heritage. There were even German newspapers
Yeah but in this video, he didn't speak about the german attrocities commit in Belgium in 1914. The allied use these attrocities to change the point of view of other countries about Germany, and describe Germany as the bad guy. It's a really important part of WW1, plus the fact that the invasion of Belgium had force the british to enter in WW1.
Afaik most german-Americans supported neutrality. They did not want war with their ancestral homeland but also heavily disapproved of Germany's militarism
Well thats the reason everyone talks about. But the brits would probably join the fight even if germany doesnt attack belgium in fear of german domination in europe and elsewhere
+Hans S Ironically, your attempts to downplay the German share of aggression would probably have outraged the very Prussian-educate Junkers who took so much pride in their militarism you now call a "joke".
With that logic, you could call Germany and Austro-Hungary the allies, but the reason its such a similarity between Entente and the Allies is because they both had Russia, UK and France as main members and they both fought against Germany. (technically austria and hungary too ;) )
I don’t think so, this would mean Germany would take over the mantle as the superpower of Europe, while ww2 meant that no country in Europe was a superpower
@@moneysittintall3611 US would have more land, and they will hav more influence upon Britain, Japan, and Asia. Germany will controll only Europe but not Britain.
The USA never had the motive for war against Britain and France, while Imperial Germany was so set on giving the Anglophiles a reason to declare war. Unrestricted submarine warfare and then the Coup de Grace, the Zimmerman telegram..
Not a very unlikely scenario. The United States was not great friends with either England or France at the time. Germany would've shared technology with the United States. In particular, the United States would've started building U-Boats, and especially, would've built the very good German torpedoes. The United States would've also built large quantities of light ships because they wouldn't have had time to build battleships. The greatest change would've been that the NAZIs wouldn't have taken over Germany and WWII wouldn't have happened. (At least it wouldn't have happened as it did.)
10.000 Subs With No Videos Yes, I mentioned that earlier. Of course, if the Germans had won WWI, maybe fascism would’ve arising in France and England since they would’ve been the ones that suffered economically...
Completely agree with your analysis. Even if the US never set foot in Europe the loss of supply from the United States in our timeline and Canada in this timeline would likely be enough to give the Germans an edge. The only thing I might contest is what happens to Canada. I think all of it would become US territories and eventually states.
And the thing is if Canada surrenders and they are still going at it in Europe, US Navy will probably then turn their attentions towards doing everything they can to stop the Royal Navy from further impeding Germany
@@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 if there is a place for America to be imperialistic, it’s on their own continent not in Philippines, not in the Far east, not in desert out there with innocent poor and illiterate people being bombed day and night.
Interesting synopsis and totally agree with the "what if had America joined in w/Germany instead of Great Britain". I have heard it said many times by the Old US Veteran Doughboys after returning that they had rather had been fighting w/ Germany than the Arrogant Brits. Also this vid is dealing w/a WW-1 scenario, Nazi-ism would have never been born if it hadn't been induced by the Treaty at Versailles, a "Witch hunt" aimed at nothing less than a genocide being perpetrated on an already starving German population while forcing a humiliating subjugation along with the loss of a great deal of German lands. The German peoples had not much choice but fall prey to any radical Idealism, post WW-1, that would keep German families from dropping dead in the streets from starvation. As an American I hate to say it but I believe Woodrow Wilson Made the wrong call on this one ! One other side to this is that pending a German-US victory outcome of WW-1 , Germany and the US could have easily taken the already unsettled USSR by simultaneously blitzkrieg attacking from both Eastern and Western Soviet fronts probably within a matter of weeks if not days, rendering the world 4-ever free of a Russian Super-power threat .
Great points! If Germany left the war in a strong position, and held the Baltic states as a buffer against the USSR, many of the subsequent problems would have been avoided. No need for WWII, no need for the atomic or nuclear bombs, no Korean War, etc. History would have been totally different. I would hope that the USA and Canada come to a peaceful resolution and sort of reset relations, similar to what we have now. Canada is essentially independent of the UK today, so it could be back to normal in time. We would still have to deal with the problem of colonialization, as subjugation of people would still be a black mark on humanity.
you now that hitler would control austria because they would still struglle with etnic problems and he with his speech would rise to power and do other genocides and UK and france would be like the bad guys and they would make a ww2
@@diamondsky3787 Hitler would never rise to power and UK and France wouldn't be a western axis as they'd be far to weak. Austria would collapse yes, but I doubt that Germany would control modern day austria, let alone austrian empire.
this was an absolutely amazing video. All the details are so well thought out and even the concept of a german victory is mindblowing. And not to metion the suprise entry at the end. SO TRUE!
The video is not incorrect. If a few things had gone differently, America would have either stayed out of the war or joined with Central Powers. If USA stays out of the war, the Entente could have still won, I think. But if USA joins the Central Powers, there is no way the Entente could have won. USA would have militarized even faster than they actually did in real life and with us going straight after Canada, that takes a hell of a lot of pressure off of Germany, especially with Russia leaving the war and with Italy utterly incompetent at beating even the Austrians in the south. USA joining not only takes Canadians out of the Western front, but it also takes ANZAC forces out of the Mesopotamian front. So the Entente also lose some advantage to the Ottomans. The Entente can't win a war that was this close if it's losing every advantage that helped it win the war.
I think even more people would have died and millions of people would be dying from hunger and suffering after the war ( more than how it originally was )
@@Rushking20 yes it would but with the uk and france and hitler would still be born and him with his magnific speech would rule austria and then turn back austria into nazi
My great grandfather was a Stormtrooper during the first one, he lived long enough to retire on a farm here in Romania, my grandmother said he never talked about the war, but was always seen as a calm, kind, well educated & hardworking man of the small rural community he lived in, he was not a believer in God but did believe in the better things about life, he died very young at the age of 40 when the new of the Second one started, he just collapsed,
The US population outnumbered Canada 14 to 1. Furthermore, the British had always considered that the US might take Canada- as late as 1932- and planned to abandon Canada if necessary. The Royal Navy was strong, but Roosevelt's Great White Fleet was more concentrated. The British would not be able to effectively assist Canada, while keeping forces in France. They were already short on manpower by 1916
Did u just say the American navy could stand up to the Royal Navy in 1917?! Omega lulll fucking idiot britian could have just took America navy bombardment on the coast then send in the men America would collapse to the British in that year
This is a very interesting what if because its hard to predict. The US would have to fight a 2 front warlike in WW2 but would also have to beat the Entente Navy or they wouldnt be able to help germany at all DIRECTLY. Not to mention the Canadian border is HUGE. Like the eastern front in WW2. I agree with everything in this video extremely well researched good job!
Sav Sal But think about the Entente shipments! They completely depended on their allies like Brazil, the US, Siam, Thailand, Cuba, the Philippines and the Central American nations to help them with workers, ammunition and other supplies. Nations which joined the war only because the German unrestricted submarine warfare. Without it and with America being part of the Central powers those nations obviously wouldn’t have joined the war on the side of the Entente. Heck for all we now countries like China, Siam and Ethiopia have more interest in joining the Central powers. Also even their vast amounts of troops the Entente sometimes had shortages of men on the western front. The amount of men that would need to be send to Canada to guard it would only worsen that. Those gaps would need to be filled with more troops from Britain itself or the colonies. Australia and Japan atleast at the start would have there hands full with the Philippines and Africa itself wasn’t really a reliable source of manpower. There were constant revolts from the natives during the war for both sides. Only India is left, but it is to far away for troops to arrive immediately. So there is a gap in time during which the western front would probably be a lot weaker than in our timeline. A perfect opportunity for the Germans to strike. This is all assuming that the American entry in the war is a surprise. With Russia just dropping out of the war I can’t see the Entente winning this. There probably is no allied intervention in the Russian civil war since the shortages of both men and resources, meaning a quicker Bolshevik victory? But what if Germany interfered? This like Kaiserreich but it is a lot worse for the Entente if they don’t sign a in armistice like in the video.
Yes i agree with your analysis. The combined entent navy still could force the US navy to stay in a situation similar to the german navy in WW1. Even then, the sheer number of men the Entente would need, shows that the Central Powers are the winners. Submarine convoy hunting would make things even worse. Japan only joined the Entente because they were opportunists. They were a lot more sympathetic to Germany prior to WW1 and seeing the US close to joining the war might even turn them neutral or to go to the Central Powers' side. the Qing would want to ally germany, but the situation in CHina was way too unpredictable so I doubt they would do that, or if they would be able to have an impact. About the Russian Civil War, people always seem to forget that the Soviets respected the treaty of brest litovsk and germany would be foolish to attack again the side that rose promising the people peace with them. Long term they might be enemies, but short term the Soviets were of no threat and would be more willing to stay peaceful than their adverseries in the Civil war. Even if thats not enough, the Great War devastated german so I doubt they would, depsite all that ive said till now, choose to intervene.
Really? You forget to mention with the shipments to the Entente that the US army relied completely and utterly on Britain and France for ALL of its heavy equipment. The Machineguns were British or French, the Aircraft were British or French, the artillery was British or French, the Tanks were French.... Even WITH that it still took until mid 1918 before a significant number of US troops entered the front lines. When the US joined the war in 1917 its army basically did not exist. It was miniscule, it had very few machineguns, it had few aircraft and all were obsolete, it had a shortage of artillery and the majority of what it had was obsolete, it had inadequate training, inadequate equipment, and a rapid buildup in Forces would have (indeed did) made those issues worse. As for the ammunition, I dont know where you got *that* from, by 1917 Britain was making more than enough ammunition to supply its armies at home, it needed none from the US. In 1914 - mid 1916 yes, but by 1917? No. Most of the food came from the Empire, France relied on the US manufacturing more than Britain did, but even France managed the majority of its manufacturing at home. All of its aircraft were built in France for example, and France built as many aircraft during WWI as the rest of the combatants combined. While there were supplies that came from the US losing the US would not have been a crippling blow to the Entantes ability to manufacture weaponry. It would, however, have been a crippling blow to the US's ability to mobilise a large enough army quickly enough to have made a difference. The Central Powers were NOT capable of supplying the vast amount of guns, tanks, aircraft and machineguns the US army needed to mobilise quickly, and US industry was NOT set up to manufacture those items themselves, even if it had the designs available. Only in small arms, rifles, did the US have the capacity to arm its troops, and even then they used a British rifle rechambered for 30-06 (the P 14). it would have taken years for the manufacturing to be in place for the US to have made a telling contribution outside the Continental US. Years germany did not have.
What do you mean two front war? The US was not fighting Mexico. The US just fighting Canada and Britain sending over troops and sinking British supply ships takes the pressure off Germany, so they sure are helping in Europe.
In reality Ottomans actually captured Caucasus but they lost the Middle East. Their reason to enter this war was to regain their lost lands like Trablus (Libya) and Egypt (That's one of reasons why Germany wanted Ottomans as an ally, they needed the channel of Egypt for strategic and economical reasons) Also imagine if there was Ottomans and they were still ruling whole Arabia, the ISIS or Syrian refugee problems could have never happened. That's Important for sure. Well, too late to change it anyway...
Ottomans being an ally of Germany during WW1 was the equivelent of the russians being an ally of America in ww2. They did not like each other. Only worked together for their own means.
And who doesn't work for their own means? Lol. Ottomans allied Germany because a strong ally could help them to retake their lands that are occupied for 100 years by Russia, Britain and Italy. They had the common enemies and there was no reason not to ally. So, why wouldn't Ottomans take back Caucasus and instead Germany takes it? That's pointless as fuck...
I didn't accuse you of being that, but you didn't get it : is your precedent comment pretending that the Southern Europe was their lands? "retake their lands"
Well you're not the first to suggest that a Central Power victory in WW1 would've led to a more stable, and better world. It's impossible to know for sure, and it's equally possible that revanchist movements would've formed in the defeated Entente powers.
You forgot about the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk. At a very minimum, the Soviet Union is just Soviet Russia instead. More than likely, a victorious Germany is going to prop up the White forces in the Civil War.
@@richardstarkey2247 nope, in real time ussr had half of Ukraine and bel and central Asia, in brest they have no Ukraine or Belarus, but core Russia and Central Asia kept
Sorry, but he is wrong. Even if the US had joined central powers, the French were unstoppable by 1918. See m.th-cam.com/video/cNhV8hUmomE/w-d-xo.html for details and learn true history
As much as I hated seeing a defeat this was a great video. Every point I was going to make about how the allied still could have won seemed to be mentioned and explained well. However there were a few parts that were quite questioning, but probably wouldn't have changed it that much. All in all a very good video. Good job.
I enjoyed this alternative to history. Both world wars were tragic wars involving European vs European instead of unity. Both generation on all sides didn't fought to have their nations turn into rootless shitholes.
I'm amazed you haven't thrown the term 'cultural marxism ' into the mix too .... I love reading through arguments between brainwashed right wing and brainwashed left wing spouting rhetoric . It really amuses me. Alex Jones fan by any chance ?
They fought because they lived under a system of monarchy and had no choice due to conscription . For the record most of the UK was a shit hole at the outbreak of the war and those lads who fought for nothing came back to the same shit holes afterwards .
Well, I surely don't know who would say such a silly thing. U.S. involvement in both world wars was the deciding factor. Any historian worth his reputation would say so.
In reality the US did consider joining on the German side. I have a copy of a book written by a famous American doctor who went over to help the injured on the English French side. He mentions discussions he had with the Entente doctors and nurses about it and they all agreed it was embarrassing. I can't remember the doctor's name, but I have the book, somewhere.
i can sorta sympathize with Wilhelm II, However Hitler was an entirely different beast. He was out for conquest and the expansion of the German race on an unprecedented scale. Saying that is ok simply is cruel. I believe today Germany should have a kaiser style leadership and still retain its former glory/Germanic territories.
@@marka.1770 The Soviets hated the jews also and Britain banks was run by oppressive Zionists. and Jews also hate Christ and his followers look up what they did to jesuses followers after They put him on the cross
The only thing I know will definitely be different about this alternative timeline and ours is that the name 'Hitler' would still be around even in the 21st century
Some minor critiques of the final peace treaty: Historic planes of Germany involved making Belgium a vassal state (and giving it some French territory if I remember correctly) Finland and Polend wouldn't have been vassalised. Also Germany wanted more Colonies in South Africa (basically all of Sub-Saharian Africa) Austria-Hungary knew that there were to many minorities in their Balkan territories and that those would cause even more instability. They probably wouldn't have annexed all of Serbia and Albania, but instead took Venetia from Italy. I also doubt that the USA would gain the whole of Canada. They simply didn't participate that much in the war (in terms of actual fighting, they surely had the potential to do so, but they entered to late) Also what about Bulgaria and the Ottoman Empire. Both didn't do much, but you can't just ignore them.
You cannot say that Bulgaria didn't do anything in WW1. The Balkan front was the key to the Entente victory. And besides, Bulgaria took Serbia and Romania almost alone and defeated both convincingly
The notion that Canada would be a big hurdle for America for that long isn't that realistic. Britains already had plans to leave Canada alone in the wake of an American invasion. America would very easily be able to conscript more soldiers to be able to compete with Canada and any forces the Entente are able to muster and send to the North American Theatre. Other then that, I enjoyed the video.
@@KuroshiKun Ye, actually more than double of canadian 1918 pop. and US industrial power was the strongest from the 10's and the american manpower was giant
1920-1924: France and Britain want revenge French and British governments turn nationalist 1925: Boleshibiks win civil war Protests in Ottoman Empire 1928: Ottoman Empire is dissolved Chinese civil war begins
They were already nationalist. Everyone was nationalist besides people who lived in empires. This globalist brainwashing of the recent decades has gone too far.
Gabe Newell >britain and france turn nationlist When were talking about WW1 and the beginning of WW2 and the causes of WW2 i think it could be likely that both france and britain could call for their colonies and shit back but prolly not call for war. That really made me think about what would happen but it probably wouldnt change a whole lot in the long term.
Fascism main ideology is mainly Socialism which is linked to communist. Fascism’s true began as a left-wing ideology rooted in socialism. Everyone knows the ideological founders of capitalism and communism: Adam Smith and Karl Marx respectively. Who is the philosopher of fascism? Most people don’t know, not because he doesn’t exist, but because historians, who are mostly on the left, have chosen instead to “erase him from history to avoid confronting fascism’s actual beliefs. The father of fascism is a man named Giovanni Gentile. Gentile considered fascism to be the most workable form of socialism. “Fascism mobilizes people by appealing to their national identity as well as their class. Fascists are socialists with a national identity. Gentile also believed all private action should be oriented to serve society, with no distinction between private interest and public interest. He considered the state to be the administrative arm of society, so society and all its members were to submit to the state in everything. Italian fascist dictator, Benito Mussolini, simply paraphrased Gentile when he wrote in his Dottrina del Fascismo, one of the doctrinal statements of early fascism, “All is in the state and nothing human exists or has value outside the state. Just like Gentile, Democratic progressives champion a centralized state, which explains the recent expansion of state control in the private sectors of healthcare, banking, education and energy. “Leftists can’t acknowledge their man, Gentile, because that would undermine their attempt to bind conservatism to fascism. Conservatives support small government in order to empower individual liberties, but the left wants the resources of individuals and industries to service the state. “To acknowledge Gentile is to acknowledge that fascism bears a deep kinship to the ideology of today’s left. So, they will keep Gentile where they’ve got him: dead, buried, and forgotten.” So the left is linked to socialist communist and fascism ideologies that then turned into nazism.
Austria Kingdom ball change your name to Autistic Kangdom spear. Fascism is nationalism? Nationalism was invented first... really activates the almonds.
Yeah that last part was really stupid. Especially because Hitler probably would have never come to power if the US joined the Central and they beat the Allies.
Also if he implied there wouldn't be radical Islam then he's wrong the allies colonization already started it a German victory under Hitler might make it worse
Ehrenmann! Your final statement about what the world has become with Germany losing and the splitting of Arabia by the British who now refuse to take the responsibility is so true!
@@marka.1770 True, but if they joined earlier to defeat the british, it would be more harder due to the fact of rushing their normal preparations and low morale
The video was absolutely amazing. I was actually thinking of this as if the central powers won ww1 or if America joined the central powers before I found this video.
Allies: Germany is evil for killing thousands in Belgium and destroying countless ships of ours!!! British naval blockade: *Starves German population almost to death.* Allies: We're gonna pretend we've never saw that happen.
Gootnick The British dream that’s all it is in reality however the British would have Lost and they try in World War II and would have end up like germans When they invaded the Soviets
I had no idea why Germany sided with Turkey because during ww ottomans commited genocide against armenian Christians when Germans were Christians themselves
Just imagine - no Sykes-Picot - no carving up of the Ottoman Empire - stability in the Middle East? Even peace? What an idea! Colonization of the Middle East is one of the nasty lasting legacies of the Great War.
chicongo detraq because the ottoman were allies to the Germans the german Kaiser paid for a monument for the ottomans and the ottomans needed the supplies to maintain their economy and Germany needed the troops
Keep in mind that during this time period multiple british vassal's were very unhappy with being under english control, South Africa and India likely would have revolted soon after it became clear that the war had shifted to the favor of the Central Powers, Seeing as the Boer War in South Africa was only a number of years earlier, South Africa also has a good amount of German influence so they likely would have joined Germany which would have made the African Front even easier, likewise with India, they were not happy with the state of affairs in the country and likely would have declared independence. One extra note, the USA would be dumb to not focus on taking Alberta first in Canada, it is one of the few provinces with a large abundance of oil which would have helped Germany, Also Alberta is one of (If not the most) wealthy province in Canada. Taking it would easily cripple Canada.
was the Oil discovered before the 1920's? one quick google search on my side resulted in the discovery of albertan oil in 1947. admittedly, i did not click the article, i just read the title.
Unlike a lot of what if history videos there was a really good chance of the USA joining the Central Powers. There where a good number of German Americans and the memory of the war of 1812 was still in the American mind.
I‘d argue that the bolshiveks would gain power sooner under these circumstances, because they would realize that conditions were worse than expected. Also, Britain and the allies would start becoming starved the second America joins the axis powers, because we were sending millions of tons of supplies to the allied forces before we entered the war.
actually surprisingly enough it was not the US that was the breadbasket of the entente. It was Argentina. As it turns out they were actually ranked at the same place in power at the time before ww1 ended and they couldn't sell as much.
Diehard raw materials yes, but ammunition and weapons were all made in the UK, Enfields were mad ein the UK along with their ammo and then shipped out to other countries
Diehard 270 The starvation wouldn’t be that effective considering ration systems were very good at doing their job, especially in a place like the UK where a good chunk of land is dedicated to farming rather than housing
FAOX britain, france, and russia were all almost starved out of the war by 1917. All of them. Britain had it the absolute worst, their rations and US food were the only things keeping them afloat
Iosif Vissarionovici Stalin "Why it takes to make a video?" Because, it takes time to reach and what Course and Effect it would have on the World. What if Trotsky was the leader of the USSR?
Frist Name Last Name Hahaha What if Trotsky was the leader of the USSR ? 1.I would be dead until 1930 2.USSR would be dead because of him and his communism export
@@scarymoose4141 No USA only needs to side with the Germans In WW1 Because the cause of WW2 was an angry patriotic moustache man whos angry at the treaty of versaille and possibly the only one thats very angry about germanys defeat in WW1
The USA could overrun Canada easily. With the US joining the war, France and Britain would need every soldier to stabilize the front in France. This would make the Vardar-Offensive impossible. Bulgaria would stay in the war and so would the Ottomans. Even if the French wouldn't capitulate, Italy would, meaning a two-front war for France. The peace treaty for France would be based on the "Septemberprogramm". GB wouldn't really loose anything. Italy would probably give Venice as puppet to A-H and Libya as puppet to the Ottomans. A-H would annex Montenegro and take North-West-Serbia as puppet, the rest would be annexed by Bulgaria. The latter would also annex Thessalonki. The Dodecane-islands and Crete would go to the Ottomans. Brest-Litowsk and Budapest comfirmed. A-H would survive as Danube Federation and the Ottomans would also survive thanks to Atatürk. France, Britain and the UdSSR would ally later to take down the CP. This would start the WW2 of this TL.
The U.S would have a serious problem. They didn't have troops in 1917. And the allies could have attacked the U.S. The U.S. had ships. But they didn't have trained troops to fight hundreds of thousands of vets. But the allies would have a problem as well losing all that U.S. supplies they where getting. Which would make them desperate and the East Coast would be a battle field. Only good thing is maybe Germany would have had the balls to actually use their damn dreads to fight in more then one sea battle. And I doubt many trench stalemates are happening in Canada People would freeze to death come mid winter. Nor do I see fronts changing much. Not many roads built and snow would be Heavy. I also have a problem with Canada becoming like purteo rico. All that wood and resources ripe for the taking. They would be made a state and those resources would all be the U.S.
Agreed. But I think that the US wouldn't declare war against Canada until they had troops. The US would probably stop sending supplies and start mobilizing troops. This would warn the Entente and they may build trenches and improve in fracture around strategic positions. Kinda depends if Britain bring more Canadian troops to Europe or send them all back home.
I have to agree seeing what is going on in Europe in today's world our forefathers would have eagerly joined Germany and Austria-Hungary to defeat the evil that we're dealing with now.
Well first of all, this is one where I think you're finally right for the most part. The main thing you got wrong was that there was no way Germany was going to let Russia off so easily. At the time of the war, Russia would have been ready militarily to defeat Germany within 10 years. Germany needed to beat down Russia in that war, so there's no way the peace terms would have been so modest. The only other major thing is there is absolutely no way the US should have fought with the Axis in WW2. I can see the reasoning where maybe we should have been on their side in WW1, but no way in hell for WW2.
Great video (ignoring the last part) but I don’t think some of the stuff afterwards would happen, mainly with Canada. Newfoundland was extremely pro British, having still been a independent country. I would see them remaining one, unless they ended up being forcefully taken. Second, I would think many other parts of Canada other than the maritimes would become states. Having most of Canada being territory would just make it more likely for anti-American sentiment to go, having gone from an independent-ish country to having no power. I would think the USA would try to make more states, BC, Ontario, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba. Best bet if they didn’t want a future rebellion would be to give the provinces statehood. But just the idea of US invading Canada seems a bit stretched. US-Canada relations were at a good point during that period, with new trade agreements, and while there were disputes with boarder, there was no government desires for annexation at the time. I would say that them invading Canada would only be if a conflict broke out between the two, which might have happened, but seeing that your premise involves US’ trade, and that leading to conflict, I could see them still try to be on trading terms with Canada. I also wouldn’t discount the ingenuity of Canadians in the war. They won many battles that every other army lost. I can see a huge fight being put up, eventually resulting in a stalemate that would only end after a treaty. I think this is likely as like you said, the Americans weren’t prepared for war, Canada was already, and while the Americans had more numbers, the Canadian soldiers were hardened, and could put up a fight, especially since they had just implemented conscription that year. They would have had brand new soldiers and the experienced old ones, and to top it off, they had American weaponry, as during the war, Canada was buying from America, since America wanted to trade. So because of having fresh new troops, old experienced ones, and technology from America, unless in this alternate history world USA hadn’t traded with Canada or had as good relations, I don’t see them 1. Invading Canada, and 2. If they do, being able to take much territory for much of the battle, and the Canadians holding till a treaty was made, and 3. If it does goes as you said, I would see all the provinces become states and Newfoundland and Quebec remaining independent.
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1 like and i won’t respect belgian neutrality
Lol
Oh Willy you rascal.
I like how you respected the dutch one tho
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that was stolen
USA: Joins the Central Powers.
Canada: *sweats*
And yanks wishful thinking
*audible sweating
Andre thackray Canada only has 20k active troops, we have 1.3 million
eddie money Bro those 20k active troops would just be a speed-bump
DS-Mini not in 1917
The thing about Germany during WWI is that they were very similar to America at the time
Really? Superficially maybe. But dig a little deeper.
Jay Peterson American ideals weren’t that much different that German ideals
Dear Leader Hello Jim Pickens
Also most Americans at the time as they are today were of German blood.
daikaiju lord yes and because of this many Americans were actually rooting for Germany before USA entered the war.
I guess that Austria was...
Hungary for war.
Ghandicus Erectus
😂😂😂😂😂
Ghandicus Erectus go home
Ghandicus Erectus overused shit but still funny
no
Savage
Meanwhile in a parallel universe: What if Germany lost WW1
What if Germany, the USA, and the rest of the Central Powers lost the Great War?
@@nachosan216 nothing real interesting central powers punishment will be the same.only USA will be different. There are some historical propaganda on google images that what if usa joined central powers and lost ww1.you must search on goggle.
From reddit users :>
In another timeline: What if Germany had won WWI?
Result: Rise of the Kaiserreich and the Syndicalist Revolution worldwide
More Like: What if the Entente had won WW1?
We could have prevented WW2 from happening. Remember that Imperial Germany is way different than Nazi Germany.
WW2 would be the other way around but without Holocaust
@@charlesnapoleon9070 it's possible but it'd be harder for a French or British Hitler to rise to power in those countries as there's a history of democracy there unlike Germany.
But the acción francaise already had many members in OTL.
France could have either a French Hitler or maybe a 3rd Napoleonic French Empire be formed to “reclaim French glory”
@@morsecode980 Perhaps. However, it would probably not be anywhere near the same scale. France simply didn't have the population to go on its own. Even if a Nazi France rose, it is unlikely it would be imperial Germany. Plus I doubt Britain would like France trying to reform Napoleon, despite their humiliation by the Germans. Remember the history of France and Britain is basically fueled hatred. But even if Britain stays out, Germany could take on France. And without it falling, world war II would be much less bloody.
Germany: *defending* Also Germany : *gets blamed for war*
as in our reality
@@zvallidto be fair only uneducated idiots blame Germany for ww1, anyone with half a Brain knows they weren’t good sure, but they certainly weren’t bad, hell if there was a bad guy in Europe it would be Belgium Great Britain, or the Ottoman Empire
Regardless of whatever peoples views are politically in the comments I think we can all agree that WW1 was most likely the most pointless war in history with an astonishing loss of life with little to show for it expect the pretence leading to WWII.
There was no good or evil in the war. Just good men on both sides dying
There wasn't any good in WW2 either
Totally agree. It was just a bad situation of regional alliances coupled with an accident in Sarajevo. If you could point to a bad thing, it would have to be colonial greed.
it was a necessary population control in a time where food was scarce and people were plenty
WW1 was a war between the monarchical empires of the Victorian era and the democracies of the modern era. It defined how we would enter a new chapter of western civilization.
@Noah Arvino this is correct
As an American, I must say that I prefer this reality to our own
As an American. I believe, the US did have more to gain by joining the Central Powers. But, in the end we joined Britain and the Allies, because Germany tryed to get Mexico on there side.
And we all know not to piss off the US!
@@fristnamelastname5549 As an American, I must say, fuck that 'murica bullshit
look where it got us today
just a few steps closer to dystopia
I'm sure a racist would love that. Nazi america right??🤣😂
et 37 yep if only Germany did not send the zippeman telegram
you sir have gained my respect
I like how Bulgaria and the Ottoman Empire didn’t get anything from the treaty
it's not a full victory
Okay, thanks
because uk navy is still untouchable on the seas its not really a defeat or not as bad as the german defeat
Ok
Bulgaria and The Ottoman would have Kept what they had instead of being carved up into minced meat.
Meanwhile in a alternate universe, *what if USA decided that Britain is the wrong enemy?*
Bruh lmao 😂
But that would be this timeline
@@arrowpictures2844 y e s
@@belgiumball2308 hey you look familiar
@@Fritz357 hi brother _-that abused every single person in congo-_ from 20th century
As an American, I wouldn't have mind either side of the war for ww1. They both have valid reasons to fight for.
That's the sad truth that no one was any better than other in the war yet Germany became a cartoonishly evil villain in the eyes of everyone.
This was partialy due to British propaganda that convinced the Americans that the war was against war hungry tyrants, which made them dethrone monarchs and destroy empires which destabilized the world for decades to come.
@North-East isreal is the good guy the isreal is just doing defense
@@audiebradley2995 israel was a legitmate state
@@brunoandaman9818 yes until they kill child and peoples....
@@PatroitSongChannel still is, I’m sorry the Palestinian gun emplacements are on civilian housing….
"What if US leaders decide that Germany is the wrong enemy?"
Patton:
Netherlands: welp europe has gone battle royale again.
Switzerland: You new here?
@@dad_bot_3924 Sweden: I was doing this stuff before you guys
Spain: How am I?
The Netherlands when they realize that they can sell cocaine to both sides: *business is booming*
Germany: Oh da pain It's getting so cold
Britain- crushing germany
USA -looks at germanys puppy dog eyes
Forgot that the war happened in French soil, and they did the largest effort
As a Brit, I've always thought Americans and Germans seem more compatible than us Brits and Yanks. We may share the same language but our work ethic seems a lot closer to the French than to the factory-like Germans and Americans.
You Brits are racist so we don't care
No they are not I think racism is almost gone from both the UK and the USA
Sawrattan
Wait hold up... did you just say “as a brit... (you’re) a lot closer to the french”
Lmao... are you even a brit
OilyDumplings I feel closer to the Germans as an American even though most my dna is from the UK including Irish, Scottish, English, and Welsh with my only known ancestry not originating from the UK is Dutch, and Native American it’s just our work ethic is way closer to Germany than The UK (by closer I mean better)
@Dave Klonpenberg Get out, we're having a cultivated talk about WW1 here, not about nazis or other shit
We were fighting for the wrong side!
yeah
@@usapatriot4043 U.S.A always fighted for U.K , I think it is comic... Your country is bigger than U.K but you are fighting for ''
queen '' ..
@@marka.1770 If you ask me , I hate from USA xd and I hope one day we will fuck usa with Russia , From Turkey ! th-cam.com/video/8uqQu1zps2M/w-d-xo.html
Mark A. Yes. But Turks dont like usa .
Mister Albert nope
Better world, no Communism and no Nazis.
And something like the Baby EU at the end of WW1.
Germany wanted an economic union that unites all Countrys around Germany peaceful.
BRO WTF
communism is good
DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT IS IT?!
no one would get hunger as in your capitalism!
If all world was communism it would not war and only learn new technologies , EVERYONE WOULD HAVE WORK
NO HOMELESS PEOPLE
cmon fuck You bitch
@@mobilecyclop7329 did you understand how easily communism fell, in 2 years, all of the european communists collapsed
@@mobilecyclop7329 dude, you know what the F in communism stands for? Food.
@@mobilecyclop7329 haha, dude. Just look at the Soviets. No Hunger? That's literally the biggest problem of Communism! Communism was intent to be for the people. For the greater good, bit it isn't and it failed hard. Like fascism
@@mobilecyclop7329 I actually thought you'd joke.
I knew there was a guy that did those robot voices.
Whats up man
Its actually a bot...... right?
Joshua Packbier yes...
HEADASS
Do you know the *WaY*
We would all be driving Mercedes, enjoying massive advancements in technology, and speaking german and drinking german beer. Life would be perfect.
ZedsDeadBabe yes omg i hoped that if i die i get reincarnated in a parallel universe like that
Or you would an all electic Porsche. The frist car of Ferdinand Porsche was an Electric one. All engineers prefered the Electric over the combustion engine because it's more effective. But the WW1 made a mass production a Need and afterwards a lot of miliary cars and truck became used by civilians.
Or big jump in progress never happen,because no WW2 and,no Cold war.World can be at 1940-1950 era in our time,just because nobody give all this money to technology progressing. Anyway,no WW2 its still enough to make me love this scenario,lol. Also,srry for bad english.
@JDJ Dj that ain’t how technological advancement works chief.
@@jdjdj5907 Theoretically the allies might start WW2
1922: Ottoman Empire collapses
1923: Bolsheviks are defeated
Restoring Russia would of been amazing.
The Ottomans could avoid collapse, if Atatürk takes control before it's too late.
@@charlesnapoleon9070 attaturk wouldve ended the empire himself, he wanted small borders but strong
US to Great Britain: HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON, OLD MAN?!
4/3/21 Edit: I regret ever making this comment.
Don’t forget you needed the French and Spanish to help you
Lol that's right Brits lol how many times do you need a ass whoop lol
August 24, 1814.
@@theundeadkaiser1512 August 24, 1814.
MD Reborn
Great Britain : I love the young people
(In his mind): Not really
And then kaiserreich
Mittelafrika: *EXPLODES*
Hello welcome to Chillis this is why we don’t put game devs in the historian role
Hello welcome to Chillis actually now when you make custom rules in Kaiserreich there’s an option to disable the collapse of Mittelafrika
Black monday
What If USA had joined Germany in 1917 during WW1?
wish they had ...
Ike would still be in power
@@kaiserwilhelmii5584 no unless you hid the key to immortality but your great grand son would be
I'm glad we didn't or we wouldn't be the strongest country in the world right now and the only superpower so stfu
I wish the usa sided with Germany.
America had a pretty low quality army back then so the allies still might have won especially considering Britain's navy would of stopped America even landing troops on mainland Europe so Germany would have been defeated and America would have just stopped as they would be fighting for nothing once Germany was defeated
American didn't want to become a world power and replace Britian at the time during or before WWI.. America wanted to just be left alone. Even after WWI, we just wanted to be left alone. Only after WWII did American find itself in such a position and decided to claim it instead of let the Soviet Union become the sole world power, cause no one else could
you are an ingenous guy
Not really. Remember the American Spanish War of 1898? We fought that war to gain control of Spanish colonies. When we won, we got Puerto Rico, Cuba, and the Philippines. Saying America isn't imperialist is wrong.
America wanted to enforced the Monroe doctrine and stay out of European politics if Europe leaves the americas alone.
I took that line to mean the alternate timeline America had ambitions of world domination; not claiming that was the desire for our timeline U.S.A.
@@SpazzAttack78- Cuba was released, which in 1959 became a mistake. The Philippines became independent in 1946 following the defeat of Japan.
This is a great video. I wish America sided with Germany. We would get more land and WWII never would have happened.
WW2 probably would have been caused by the French.
Yea they were turning commie and revolts would of happened but I do wish as an American we sided with Germany during this war to end all wars
@AlienFirefox How does America joining on Germany's side make them German?
There is no way to know that ww2 would have never happened if the Germans won, the same thing that happened to the Wiemar Republic could've happened in the UK and France.
@AlienFirefox You really think that Germany would just go on some world conquest after they won the war? Against a very valuable ally no less? The British and French were exhausted after the war, it strained their economies and was not popular to the public due to the amount of casualties it caused. The same thing would happen in Germany, except there would be no hate fueled nationalistic revival like we saw in our timeline due to Hitler, and the hate towards the British and French not being there. If Germany could just go on some world conquest after they won, as you say. Then why didn't Britain or France conquer the world? It would be no different except Britain and France would switch roles with Germany.
Also, when you say "If it wasn't for the soviet union, the Germans would have won." are you talking about ww1 or ww2? If you're talking about ww1, then you are mistaken. The Bolshevik revolution started when Germany let Lenin go back into Russia to destabilize the Russian Empire. But if Germany saw the Bolsheviks as a threat, after winning the war in the west, they would most likely have helped the whites and the other various independence movements against the Bolsheviks. But it is not certain they would win. The Bolsheviks played a very minor role in the war, they only destabilized the east. There was no conflict between Germany and the Bolsheviks.
Lastly, it is not like if they won the war the countries they defeated would have simply given up. Similar things most likely would've happened in Britain and France as they did in Germany in our timeline. Hate towards the Germans would be at an all time high, and you would have people just like Hitler promising their former "rightful" land, and more. Later causing ww2.
As a side note, please explain how Germany would have invaded America, with their economy in disarray and the people not wanting another costly war, it would have been impossible (at least during the 20s 30s and 40s) to successfully invade America.
Moral of video: keep on the united states good side
but.. both are good...
haha yeah right
More like never destory a ship from the usa
@@SirKarlIsTheMod *looks at Japan
@@infamous_richard8732 at Spain
And it's American Troops and the German Army, joining together at last !
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It's not that difficult to imagine. There are quite many germans in the us and at that time most of them clearly stood to their heritage. There were even German newspapers
Yeah but in this video, he didn't speak about the german attrocities commit in Belgium in 1914. The allied use these attrocities to change the point of view of other countries about Germany, and describe Germany as the bad guy.
It's a really important part of WW1, plus the fact that the invasion of Belgium had force the british to enter in WW1.
Don’t forget the Ottoman Empire also another reason the British empire jumped in.
Afaik most german-Americans supported neutrality. They did not want war with their ancestral homeland but also heavily disapproved of Germany's militarism
Well thats the reason everyone talks about. But the brits would probably join the fight even if germany doesnt attack belgium in fear of german domination in europe and elsewhere
+Hans S
Ironically, your attempts to downplay the German share of aggression would probably have outraged the very Prussian-educate Junkers who took so much pride in their militarism you now call a "joke".
If Britain started to starve they could always have eaten the pineapples from the newly conquered Haway.
😂
Pineapples rots in 4-6 days and would go bad and it gonna take a long time to deliver pineapple from the Pacific ocean to the britain
Hawaii was too far from Britain.
The Royal Navy was pretty equally matched with the US navy by WWI
Mr.X haha. Are you on crack? Even back then the royal navy was unmatched by any country probably the next three combined
Lol he started calling them Allies instead of Entente after some time.
Amethyst Gamer well it is kind of exchangeable
Wow, you know, France and UK were allies then. Their alliance is called Entente, but essentialy they were allies (not capital A).
With that logic, you could call Germany and Austro-Hungary the allies, but the reason its such a similarity between Entente and the Allies is because they both had Russia, UK and France as main members and they both fought against Germany. (technically austria and hungary too ;) )
listen buddy saying allies is easier give the guy a break
Saying allies could very well mean fucking panama and venezuela if they were allied at the time. It's not accurate at all.
I feel like the U.S. would've become an even greater super power if it had joined the central powers
I don’t think so, this would mean Germany would take over the mantle as the superpower of Europe, while ww2 meant that no country in Europe was a superpower
@@moneysittintall3611 US would have more land, and they will hav more influence upon Britain, Japan, and Asia. Germany will controll only Europe but not Britain.
@@moneysittintall3611 USSR was a superpower
@@reecemorton4786 yea WAS
The USA never had the motive for war against Britain and France, while Imperial Germany was so set on giving the Anglophiles a reason to declare war. Unrestricted submarine warfare and then the Coup de Grace, the Zimmerman telegram..
Not a very unlikely scenario. The United States was not great friends with either England or France at the time.
Germany would've shared technology with the United States. In particular, the United States would've started building U-Boats, and especially, would've built the very good German torpedoes. The United States would've also built large quantities of light ships because they wouldn't have had time to build battleships.
The greatest change would've been that the NAZIs wouldn't have taken over Germany and WWII wouldn't have happened. (At least it wouldn't have happened as it did.)
I just thought of America using v2 rockets for some reason.
The Conservative
Not in WWI.
+David Messer it probably wouldn't have happened entirely
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Yes, I mentioned that earlier. Of course, if the Germans had won WWI, maybe fascism would’ve arising in France and England since they would’ve been the ones that suffered economically...
+David Messer you're forgetting these were nations deeply rooted in democracy, and democratic societies are much less likely to wage war
IRELAND WAS ACTUALLY MEMTIONED IN A WW1 VIDEO!!!,🇮🇪🇮🇪
cameron burke
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I could add a similar comment "Canada was actually mentioned in a WW! video". lol. Don't see that very often.
And he almost never mentioned the Ottoman Empire, which was quite weird.
MrBreakingbad I thought he mentioned nations within it?
Haha
Completely agree with your analysis. Even if the US never set foot in Europe the loss of supply from the United States in our timeline and Canada in this timeline would likely be enough to give the Germans an edge. The only thing I might contest is what happens to Canada. I think all of it would become US territories and eventually states.
And the thing is if Canada surrenders and they are still going at it in Europe, US Navy will probably then turn their attentions towards doing everything they can to stop the Royal Navy from further impeding Germany
this might sound Imperialistic, but its for the better that the US should fully annex Cannada and Mexico,
@@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 if there is a place for America to be imperialistic, it’s on their own continent not in Philippines, not in the Far east, not in desert out there with innocent poor and illiterate people being bombed day and night.
@@SinoLegionaire your either and empire or your not
Interesting synopsis and totally agree with the "what if had America joined in w/Germany instead of Great Britain". I have heard it said many times by the Old US Veteran Doughboys after returning that they had rather had been fighting w/ Germany than the Arrogant Brits. Also this vid is dealing w/a WW-1 scenario, Nazi-ism would have never been born if it hadn't been induced by the Treaty at Versailles, a "Witch hunt" aimed at nothing less than a genocide being perpetrated on an already starving German population while forcing a humiliating subjugation along with the loss of a great deal of German lands. The German peoples had not much choice but fall prey to any radical Idealism, post WW-1, that would keep German families from dropping dead in the streets from starvation. As an American I hate to say it but I believe Woodrow Wilson Made the wrong call on this one ! One other side to this is that pending a German-US victory outcome of WW-1 , Germany and the US could have easily taken the already unsettled USSR by simultaneously blitzkrieg attacking from both Eastern and Western Soviet fronts probably within a matter of weeks if not days, rendering the world 4-ever free of a Russian Super-power threat .
Great points! If Germany left the war in a strong position, and held the Baltic states as a buffer against the USSR, many of the subsequent problems would have been avoided. No need for WWII, no need for the atomic or nuclear bombs, no Korean War, etc. History would have been totally different. I would hope that the USA and Canada come to a peaceful resolution and sort of reset relations, similar to what we have now. Canada is essentially independent of the UK today, so it could be back to normal in time. We would still have to deal with the problem of colonialization, as subjugation of people would still be a black mark on humanity.
Woodrow Wilson is a monster. He really is.
you now that hitler would control austria because they would still struglle with etnic problems and he with his speech would rise to power and do other genocides and UK and france would be like the bad guys and they would make a ww2
@@diamondsky3787 Hitler would never rise to power and UK and France wouldn't be a western axis as they'd be far to weak. Austria would collapse yes, but I doubt that Germany would control modern day austria, let alone austrian empire.
Us Brits are stubborn! Too much for our own good, but when a war starts, we’re the first to fight back! 🇬🇧❤️🇺🇸
*U-BOOTS*
Love Glas a weapon to surpass metal gear
Love Glas
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Fuckin Boots!
Jerry Tellz,I hear they're a fashionable trend these days.
this was an absolutely amazing video. All the details are so well thought out and even the concept of a german victory is mindblowing. And not to metion the suprise entry at the end. SO TRUE!
Only problem is the dumb fucking robot voice, but yeah, it's good apart from that.
Big Tyrone probably cuz of the guys heavy accent when he was talking at the end. But eh robot voice lol
The Zimmerman Telegram: Germany offers Mexico
I mean USA to enter war on German side to offer Canada
This video is quite incorrect. The details are completely wrong
The video is not incorrect. If a few things had gone differently, America would have either stayed out of the war or joined with Central Powers. If USA stays out of the war, the Entente could have still won, I think. But if USA joins the Central Powers, there is no way the Entente could have won. USA would have militarized even faster than they actually did in real life and with us going straight after Canada, that takes a hell of a lot of pressure off of Germany, especially with Russia leaving the war and with Italy utterly incompetent at beating even the Austrians in the south. USA joining not only takes Canadians out of the Western front, but it also takes ANZAC forces out of the Mesopotamian front. So the Entente also lose some advantage to the Ottomans. The Entente can't win a war that was this close if it's losing every advantage that helped it win the war.
if only we could turn back time.
I think even more people would have died and millions of people would be dying from hunger and suffering after the war
( more than how it originally was )
I swallowed a brick of central powers win their would be no ww2 saving millions of people from death
I swallowed a brick In the U.S. a civil war would begin and rage on into what would be World War II.
@@Rushking20 yes it would but with the uk and france and hitler would still be born and him with his magnific speech would rule austria and then turn back austria into nazi
@@diamondsky3787, nope. We have no Humiliation. A-H would be able to reform, meaning, the Nazis wouldn't get more than 40%, until they fall.
My great grandfather was a Stormtrooper during the first one, he lived long enough to retire on a farm here in Romania, my grandmother said he never talked about the war, but was always seen as a calm, kind, well educated & hardworking man of the small rural community he lived in, he was not a believer in God but did believe in the better things about life, he died very young at the age of 40 when the new of the Second one started, he just collapsed,
Great story, I-m sad for your grandfather
@@zvallid great grandfather, never knew him neither did my mom, there is not even photo of him, as for his grave well communism removed a lot of them
The US population outnumbered Canada 14 to 1. Furthermore, the British had always considered that the US might take Canada- as late as 1932- and planned to abandon Canada if necessary. The Royal Navy was strong, but Roosevelt's Great White Fleet was more concentrated. The British would not be able to effectively assist Canada, while keeping forces in France. They were already short on manpower by 1916
jay smith what exactly has that have to do with Daniels comment?
Did u just say the American navy could stand up to the Royal Navy in 1917?! Omega lulll fucking idiot britian could have just took America navy bombardment on the coast then send in the men America would collapse to the British in that year
ReCon Clan Before you call someone an idiot: Learn how to spell.
How can the biggest Empire in history be short of men? You must mean trained British soldiers...
MrcabooseVG Referring to Canada
8:11 the "Maine-front" you could say
Boooooooo
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@Dominik Hameder badum tssss...
“Freedom of the seas” sounds like something that’d be on a focus tree in HOI4
I also like how UK accuses Germany of violating Belgian neutrality, when they did the same thing to Greece, by forcing them to join the allies.
Your videos are some of the best alt-history ones out there man, really enjoying them!
This is a very interesting what if because its hard to predict. The US would have to fight a 2 front warlike in WW2 but would also have to beat the Entente Navy or they wouldnt be able to help germany at all DIRECTLY. Not to mention the Canadian border is HUGE. Like the eastern front in WW2.
I agree with everything in this video extremely well researched good job!
Sav Sal But think about the Entente shipments! They completely depended on their allies like Brazil, the US, Siam, Thailand, Cuba, the Philippines and the Central American nations to help them with workers, ammunition and other supplies. Nations which joined the war only because the German unrestricted submarine warfare. Without it and with America being part of the Central powers those nations obviously wouldn’t have joined the war on the side of the Entente. Heck for all we now countries like China, Siam and Ethiopia have more interest in joining the Central powers. Also even their vast amounts of troops the Entente sometimes had shortages of men on the western front. The amount of men that would need to be send to Canada to guard it would only worsen that. Those gaps would need to be filled with more troops from Britain itself or the colonies. Australia and Japan atleast at the start would have there hands full with the Philippines and Africa itself wasn’t really a reliable source of manpower. There were constant revolts from the natives during the war for both sides. Only India is left, but it is to far away for troops to arrive immediately. So there is a gap in time during which the western front would probably be a lot weaker than in our timeline. A perfect opportunity for the Germans to strike. This is all assuming that the American entry in the war is a surprise. With Russia just dropping out of the war I can’t see the Entente winning this. There probably is no allied intervention in the Russian civil war since the shortages of both men and resources, meaning a quicker Bolshevik victory? But what if Germany interfered? This like Kaiserreich but it is a lot worse for the Entente if they don’t sign a in armistice like in the video.
Yes i agree with your analysis. The combined entent navy still could force the US navy to stay in a situation similar to the german navy in WW1. Even then, the sheer number of men the Entente would need, shows that the Central Powers are the winners. Submarine convoy hunting would make things even worse. Japan only joined the Entente because they were opportunists. They were a lot more sympathetic to Germany prior to WW1 and seeing the US close to joining the war might even turn them neutral or to go to the Central Powers' side. the Qing would want to ally germany, but the situation in CHina was way too unpredictable so I doubt they would do that, or if they would be able to have an impact. About the Russian Civil War, people always seem to forget that the Soviets respected the treaty of brest litovsk and germany would be foolish to attack again the side that rose promising the people peace with them. Long term they might be enemies, but short term the Soviets were of no threat and would be more willing to stay peaceful than their adverseries in the Civil war. Even if thats not enough, the Great War devastated german so I doubt they would, depsite all that ive said till now, choose to intervene.
They don't have to BEAT the Entente navy, just keep them busy.
Really? You forget to mention with the shipments to the Entente that the US army relied completely and utterly on Britain and France for ALL of its heavy equipment.
The Machineguns were British or French, the Aircraft were British or French, the artillery was British or French, the Tanks were French....
Even WITH that it still took until mid 1918 before a significant number of US troops entered the front lines. When the US joined the war in 1917 its army basically did not exist. It was miniscule, it had very few machineguns, it had few aircraft and all were obsolete, it had a shortage of artillery and the majority of what it had was obsolete, it had inadequate training, inadequate equipment, and a rapid buildup in Forces would have (indeed did) made those issues worse.
As for the ammunition, I dont know where you got *that* from, by 1917 Britain was making more than enough ammunition to supply its armies at home, it needed none from the US. In 1914 - mid 1916 yes, but by 1917? No. Most of the food came from the Empire, France relied on the US manufacturing more than Britain did, but even France managed the majority of its manufacturing at home. All of its aircraft were built in France for example, and France built as many aircraft during WWI as the rest of the combatants combined. While there were supplies that came from the US losing the US would not have been a crippling blow to the Entantes ability to manufacture weaponry.
It would, however, have been a crippling blow to the US's ability to mobilise a large enough army quickly enough to have made a difference. The Central Powers were NOT capable of supplying the vast amount of guns, tanks, aircraft and machineguns the US army needed to mobilise quickly, and US industry was NOT set up to manufacture those items themselves, even if it had the designs available. Only in small arms, rifles, did the US have the capacity to arm its troops, and even then they used a British rifle rechambered for 30-06 (the P 14).
it would have taken years for the manufacturing to be in place for the US to have made a telling contribution outside the Continental US. Years germany did not have.
What do you mean two front war? The US was not fighting Mexico. The US just fighting Canada and Britain sending over troops and sinking British supply ships takes the pressure off Germany, so they sure are helping in Europe.
In reality Ottomans actually captured Caucasus but they lost the Middle East. Their reason to enter this war was to regain their lost lands like Trablus (Libya) and Egypt (That's one of reasons why Germany wanted Ottomans as an ally, they needed the channel of Egypt for strategic and economical reasons)
Also imagine if there was Ottomans and they were still ruling whole Arabia, the ISIS or Syrian refugee problems could have never happened. That's Important for sure. Well, too late to change it anyway...
Ottomans being an ally of Germany during WW1 was the equivelent of the russians being an ally of America in ww2. They did not like each other. Only worked together for their own means.
And who doesn't work for their own means? Lol.
Ottomans allied Germany because a strong ally could help them to retake their lands that are occupied for 100 years by Russia, Britain and Italy. They had the common enemies and there was no reason not to ally. So, why wouldn't Ottomans take back Caucasus and instead Germany takes it? That's pointless as fuck...
ottomans wanted to retake their lands occupied by Russia, Britain and Italy? Tell me it's not what I'm thinking. You wouldn't dare, yes?
Me? I'm not the Ottoman Empire. :)
I didn't accuse you of being that, but you didn't get it : is your precedent comment pretending that the Southern Europe was their lands? "retake their lands"
*US joins central powers
Britain: *suprised pikachu*
Well you're not the first to suggest that a Central Power victory in WW1 would've led to a more stable, and better world. It's impossible to know for sure, and it's equally possible that revanchist movements would've formed in the defeated Entente powers.
Would have been good except one problem...... the Soviet Union
You forgot about the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk. At a very minimum, the Soviet Union is just Soviet Russia instead. More than likely, a victorious Germany is going to prop up the White forces in the Civil War.
@@richardstarkey2247 nope, in real time ussr had half of Ukraine and bel and central Asia, in brest they have no Ukraine or Belarus, but core Russia and Central Asia kept
Well done, it's fun to imagine a different reality with changes like these.
Also great ending.
Stop imagining and make it happen.
It's Mr NA again hahahahaha. You're hilarious
One of the best videos in the last few months, it's much more plausible and cool!
Ben fatto =)
Sorry, but he is wrong. Even if the US had joined central powers, the French were unstoppable by 1918. See m.th-cam.com/video/cNhV8hUmomE/w-d-xo.html for details and learn true history
and they say that the world can't be perfect...
As much as I hated seeing a defeat this was a great video. Every point I was going to make about how the allied still could have won seemed to be mentioned and explained well.
However there were a few parts that were quite questioning, but probably wouldn't have changed it that much. All in all a very good video. Good job.
Did go quite alt-right and controversial at the end though...
I enjoyed this alternative to history. Both world wars were tragic wars involving European vs European instead of unity. Both generation on all sides didn't fought to have their nations turn into rootless shitholes.
I'm amazed you haven't thrown the term 'cultural marxism ' into the mix too .... I love reading through arguments between brainwashed right wing and brainwashed left wing spouting rhetoric . It really amuses me. Alex Jones fan by any chance ?
They fought because they lived under a system of monarchy and had no choice due to conscription . For the record most of the UK was a shit hole at the outbreak of the war and those lads who fought for nothing came back to the same shit holes afterwards .
Well, I surely don't know who would say such a silly thing. U.S. involvement in both world wars was the deciding factor. Any historian worth his reputation would say so.
JRPetruk that's very true
@@michealflaithbheartaigh4139 I cringe reading back at this . To the 5 people who liked it ... I was very very wrong
Honestly this scenario seems like it makes more sense to happen than what actually did happen.
Canada be like when they got invaded.
Canada: REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Greeting from Bulgaria, this video is very well thought and as Bulgarian I wish this is how things went for greater and better Europe.
In reality the US did consider joining on the German side. I have a copy of a book written by a famous American doctor who went over to help the injured on the English French side. He mentions discussions he had with the Entente doctors and nurses about it and they all agreed it was embarrassing. I can't remember the doctor's name, but I have the book, somewhere.
Dr Harvey Cushing " From A Surgeon's Journal 1915-1918"
www.vlib.us/medical/Cushing/journalTC.html
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WHAT'S IT CALLED!?
i can sorta sympathize with Wilhelm II, However Hitler was an entirely different beast. He was out for conquest and the expansion of the German race on an unprecedented scale. Saying that is ok simply is cruel. I believe today Germany should have a kaiser style leadership and still retain its former glory/Germanic territories.
@@marka.1770 The Soviets hated the jews also and Britain banks was run by oppressive Zionists. and Jews also hate Christ and his followers look up what they did to jesuses followers after They put him on the cross
What? Germany is Germanistan now. There are more muslim young people in Germany than their are German kids
He killed 10 million but ok
@@ninacareathers1663 so did the US/Allied powers. Let’s not forget what the British did in their conquered territories.
@@chrish3850 can agree with that
The only thing I know will definitely be different about this alternative timeline and ours is that the name 'Hitler' would still be around even in the 21st century
unless he goes to the holy grail I dont think he will live that long.
@@rye-the-man9734 I meant the name, not the person.
Hitler wasnt a name though. The name is actually "Hilter" but Hitler hated his father so he changed his last name.
I doubt Hitler would've gained power in Germany without the treaty of versailles
If we’d gone to war as part of the Central Powers, Hitler would have died in a flop house in the 1920’s.
Some minor critiques of the final peace treaty:
Historic planes of Germany involved making Belgium a vassal state (and giving it some French territory if I remember correctly)
Finland and Polend wouldn't have been vassalised. Also Germany wanted more Colonies in South Africa (basically all of Sub-Saharian Africa)
Austria-Hungary knew that there were to many minorities in their Balkan territories and that those would cause even more instability. They probably wouldn't have annexed all of Serbia and Albania, but instead took Venetia from Italy.
I also doubt that the USA would gain the whole of Canada. They simply didn't participate that much in the war (in terms of actual fighting, they surely had the potential to do so, but they entered to late)
Also what about Bulgaria and the Ottoman Empire. Both didn't do much, but you can't just ignore them.
You cannot say that Bulgaria didn't do anything in WW1. The Balkan front was the key to the Entente victory. And besides, Bulgaria took Serbia and Romania almost alone and defeated both convincingly
holy molly the photoshop works of this channel deserves a medal
Long live the German Empire! 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪
이동연 but the sad is there is no german empire anymore only a german gmbh
The notion that Canada would be a big hurdle for America for that long isn't that realistic. Britains already had plans to leave Canada alone in the wake of an American invasion. America would very easily be able to conscript more soldiers to be able to compete with Canada and any forces the Entente are able to muster and send to the North American Theatre.
Other then that, I enjoyed the video.
Yeah and I think all the provinces and territories would easily become American states. It would be an incredibly easy transition.
Isaiah Belter plus with Patton’s new tanks conquering Canada should’ve been a whip
Lol fah real the US could conscript more soldiers than Canada's entire population
@@KuroshiKun Ye, actually more than double of canadian 1918 pop. and US industrial power was the strongest from the 10's and the american manpower was giant
ANTHONYinCALI not then they couldn't ahah
Music on point, as always!
Wow , face reveal
Blitzkrieg no
When and were
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yeah but his user pic has only half his face the other is black and in yellow
Is he an Ital?
The ending is priceless
Yes, beyond priceless
Astute, thought-provoking, damn-sure true...yes, priceless!
For some context...
There were MORE German-Language Printed newspapers in the USA, than English-Language Printed Newspapers, in 1914 America.
1920-1924:
France and Britain want revenge
French and British governments turn nationalist
1925:
Boleshibiks win civil war
Protests in Ottoman Empire
1928:
Ottoman Empire is dissolved
Chinese civil war begins
They were already nationalist. Everyone was nationalist besides people who lived in empires. This globalist brainwashing of the recent decades has gone too far.
Fascism is a political ideology that includes nationalism. That does not mean all nationalism leads to fascism.
Gabe Newell >britain and france turn nationlist
When were talking about WW1 and the beginning of WW2 and the causes of WW2 i think it could be likely that both france and britain could call for their colonies and shit back but prolly not call for war.
That really made me think about what would happen but it probably wouldnt change a whole lot in the long term.
Fascism main ideology is mainly Socialism which is linked to communist.
Fascism’s true began as a left-wing ideology rooted in socialism.
Everyone knows the ideological founders of capitalism and communism: Adam Smith and Karl Marx respectively.
Who is the philosopher of fascism? Most people don’t know, not because he doesn’t exist, but because historians, who are mostly on the left, have chosen instead to “erase him from history to avoid confronting fascism’s actual beliefs. The father of fascism is a man named Giovanni Gentile. Gentile considered fascism to be the most workable form of socialism. “Fascism mobilizes people by appealing to their national identity as well as their class. Fascists are socialists with a national identity. Gentile also believed all private action should be oriented to serve society, with no distinction between private interest and public interest. He considered the state to be the administrative arm of society, so society and all its members were to submit to the state in everything. Italian fascist dictator, Benito Mussolini, simply paraphrased Gentile when he wrote in his Dottrina del Fascismo, one of the doctrinal statements of early fascism, “All is in the state and nothing human exists or has value outside the state. Just like Gentile, Democratic progressives champion a centralized state, which explains the recent expansion of state control in the private sectors of healthcare, banking, education and energy. “Leftists can’t acknowledge their man, Gentile, because that would undermine their attempt to bind conservatism to fascism. Conservatives support small government in order to empower individual liberties, but the left wants the resources of individuals and industries to service the state.
“To acknowledge Gentile is to acknowledge that fascism bears a deep kinship to the ideology of today’s left. So, they will keep Gentile where they’ve got him: dead, buried, and forgotten.”
So the left is linked to socialist communist and fascism ideologies that then turned into nazism.
Austria Kingdom ball change your name to Autistic Kangdom spear. Fascism is nationalism? Nationalism was invented first... really activates the almonds.
Did he subltly say he'd fight for Hitler? I'd be fine with fighting for Kaiser Wilhelm but not Hitler
Matt Olivier maybe cause idk the whole HOLACAUST
Yeah that last part was really stupid. Especially because Hitler probably would have never come to power if the US joined the Central and they beat the Allies.
Also if he implied there wouldn't be radical Islam then he's wrong the allies colonization already started it a German victory under Hitler might make it worse
Heir_Head 413 the axis is a ww2 term. In ww there was no clear good or bad.
onespiker Yeah you're right we were talking about Hitler so I said Axis instead of Central. My mistake.
Ehrenmann! Your final statement about what the world has become with Germany losing and the splitting of Arabia by the British who now refuse to take the responsibility is so true!
I'm a Quebecer and if the U.S joined Germany we would be independent. I wish it happened for real.
I am American, and I wish this could have this happen, but we can only learn from there mistakes.
Max Headroom Quebec will not survive as an independent country lol
@@marka.1770 True, but get this, political unrest and international pressure against it
@@marka.1770 True, but if they joined earlier to defeat the british, it would be more harder due to the fact of rushing their normal preparations and low morale
Frist Name Last Name OH CMON USA is too much fool , fuck them
The quality of this video and sound are good! 👍👍👍👍😀😃😄😁😆😊
In the next video please show us, what if Nazi Germany never attacked the Soviet union.
it's a good idea
They will win
Then ww1 wouldnt exist only Austro-hungary vs serbia war
Tököli Zsolt then the soviet union would have attacked Germany in 1943 that would be interessting
Russia would have gotten the first strike on germany.
The video was absolutely amazing. I was actually thinking of this as if the central powers won ww1 or if America joined the central powers before I found this video.
Same
They forgot about France and it's colonies, they could of invaded Florida
Nice work, seems very plausible!
Great job!
Allies: Germany is evil for killing thousands in Belgium and destroying countless ships of ours!!!
British naval blockade: *Starves German population almost to death.*
Allies: We're gonna pretend we've never saw that happen.
I wish the us was on Germany's side
Sir Tyler yeah and Canada would of kept you busy when we beat the Germans we would of took America back
gootnick 95 canada is shit
Gootnick The British dream that’s all it is in reality however the British would have Lost and they try in World War II and would have end up like germans When they invaded the Soviets
It also would have match with the spirit of the usa as war starter to have an alliance with another one trouble maker
gootnick 95 you never had America, native Americans did
Moral of the story: If the USA is on your enemy's side, just give up.
I think this would’ve actually been better than what happened in our timeline
d i d n t
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m e n t i o n
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(At the peace treaty)
I as a turk feel offended ._.
They follows the same historical path
I had no idea why Germany sided with Turkey because during ww ottomans commited genocide against armenian Christians when Germans were Christians themselves
Just imagine - no Sykes-Picot - no carving up of the Ottoman Empire - stability in the Middle East? Even peace? What an idea! Colonization of the Middle East is one of the nasty lasting legacies of the Great War.
chicongo detraq because the ottoman were allies to the Germans the german Kaiser paid for a monument for the ottomans and the ottomans needed the supplies to maintain their economy and Germany needed the troops
The Ottomans would be busy keeping their Empire together, so their gains would be low.
Keep in mind that during this time period multiple british vassal's were very unhappy with being under english control, South Africa and India likely would have revolted soon after it became clear that the war had shifted to the favor of the Central Powers, Seeing as the Boer War in South Africa was only a number of years earlier, South Africa also has a good amount of German influence so they likely would have joined Germany which would have made the African Front even easier, likewise with India, they were not happy with the state of affairs in the country and likely would have declared independence.
One extra note, the USA would be dumb to not focus on taking Alberta first in Canada, it is one of the few provinces with a large abundance of oil which would have helped Germany, Also Alberta is one of (If not the most) wealthy province in Canada. Taking it would easily cripple Canada.
was the Oil discovered before the 1920's? one quick google search on my side resulted in the discovery of albertan oil in 1947. admittedly, i did not click the article, i just read the title.
Beautiful video I loved every single minute of it!! The future could have been much much better if WW1 ended like that, no more wars.
Unlike a lot of what if history videos there was a really good chance of the USA joining the Central Powers. There where a good number of German Americans and the memory of the war of 1812 was still in the American mind.
FURRY
I‘d argue that the bolshiveks would gain power sooner under these circumstances, because they would realize that conditions were worse than expected. Also, Britain and the allies would start becoming starved the second America joins the axis powers, because we were sending millions of tons of supplies to the allied forces before we entered the war.
actually surprisingly enough it was not the US that was the breadbasket of the entente. It was Argentina. As it turns out they were actually ranked at the same place in power at the time before ww1 ended and they couldn't sell as much.
Devil of war Yes! You’re 100% right, but we were supplying tons of weapons, ammunition, and raw materials
Diehard raw materials yes, but ammunition and weapons were all made in the UK, Enfields were mad ein the UK along with their ammo and then shipped out to other countries
Diehard 270 The starvation wouldn’t be that effective considering ration systems were very good at doing their job, especially in a place like the UK where a good chunk of land is dedicated to farming rather than housing
FAOX britain, france, and russia were all almost starved out of the war by 1917. All of them. Britain had it the absolute worst, their rations and US food were the only things keeping them afloat
Switzerland: *Eats Popcorns*
Finally
Why it takes you so much time to make a video ?
What If WW3 started after the Cuban Missile Crisis
Because you purged a lot of people, which would helped him.
I can purge you too
And how will you supply your troops in Austria?
Iosif Vissarionovici Stalin "Why it takes to make a video?" Because, it takes time to reach and what Course and Effect it would have on the World.
What if Trotsky was the leader of the USSR?
Frist Name Last Name
Hahaha
What if Trotsky was the leader of the USSR ?
1.I would be dead until 1930
2.USSR would be dead because of him and his communism export
Kinda agree with him at the end
Barring siding with the Nazi's I hope
Same
Including the part where he says America should have supported the Nazis?
@@scarymoose4141 No USA only needs to side with the Germans In WW1 Because the cause of WW2 was an angry patriotic moustache man whos angry at the treaty of versaille and possibly the only one thats very angry about germanys defeat in WW1
I love this video it's very simple but shows a lot of detail. I'd like to see how world war II would play out in this reality.
The USA could overrun Canada easily. With the US joining the war, France and Britain would need every soldier to stabilize the front in France. This would make the Vardar-Offensive impossible. Bulgaria would stay in the war and so would the Ottomans. Even if the French wouldn't capitulate, Italy would, meaning a two-front war for France.
The peace treaty for France would be based on the "Septemberprogramm". GB wouldn't really loose anything. Italy would probably give Venice as puppet to A-H and Libya as puppet to the Ottomans. A-H would annex Montenegro and take North-West-Serbia as puppet, the rest would be annexed by Bulgaria. The latter would also annex Thessalonki. The Dodecane-islands and Crete would go to the Ottomans. Brest-Litowsk and Budapest comfirmed.
A-H would survive as Danube Federation and the Ottomans would also survive thanks to Atatürk. France, Britain and the UdSSR would ally later to take down the CP. This would start the WW2 of this TL.
the ending is sad and true...
EG IL n’a it really tbh. He makes a few... How do I put it... Racist statements...
MeyeHolyTacoz I was thinking the same thing but I thought no one noticed.
.... yeah lol “they would have fought for the Germans in *both* wars” and also he insinuated muslims shouldn’t be in Europe etc.
MeyeHolyTacoz 🤦🏻♂️
@@user-yf4gx9lw6c huh?
I live how europe is on fire
And here are the americans with small army just taking canada
Exellent job of History and real good job of organisation and good music GG !
a french likeing a video that makes them lose against Germany?
Imposible
Neptun And a French who watch and understand English Video Impossible (I am Gypsies that why I understand English xD)
lost mapper subtittles is not in french on this video ;=;
Omega Mapper Wait a minute a frog likes a Video where France loses to the Germans?
Frist Name Last Name Yes
The U.S would have a serious problem. They didn't have troops in 1917. And the allies could have attacked the U.S. The U.S. had ships. But they didn't have trained troops to fight hundreds of thousands of vets. But the allies would have a problem as well losing all that U.S. supplies they where getting. Which would make them desperate and the East Coast would be a battle field. Only good thing is maybe Germany would have had the balls to actually use their damn dreads to fight in more then one sea battle. And I doubt many trench stalemates are happening in Canada People would freeze to death come mid winter. Nor do I see fronts changing much. Not many roads built and snow would be Heavy. I also have a problem with Canada becoming like purteo rico. All that wood and resources ripe for the taking. They would be made a state and those resources would all be the U.S.
Agreed. But I think that the US wouldn't declare war against Canada until they had troops. The US would probably stop sending supplies and start mobilizing troops. This would warn the Entente and they may build trenches and improve in fracture around strategic positions. Kinda depends if Britain bring more Canadian troops to Europe or send them all back home.
Grande! Good bro! Very noice video, adesso aspettiamo la stessa cosa ma nella ww2 ma con la ww1 vinta dal entante:))) good day
I have to agree seeing what is going on in Europe in today's world our forefathers would have eagerly joined Germany and Austria-Hungary to defeat the evil that we're dealing with now.
Belgium never declares wars against Germany, We were neutral until the German's invasion
Ikr!
Lies!
The problem was they didn't act neutral
@@georgestauber5425 how so?
Well first of all, this is one where I think you're finally right for the most part. The main thing you got wrong was that there was no way Germany was going to let Russia off so easily. At the time of the war, Russia would have been ready militarily to defeat Germany within 10 years. Germany needed to beat down Russia in that war, so there's no way the peace terms would have been so modest. The only other major thing is there is absolutely no way the US should have fought with the Axis in WW2. I can see the reasoning where maybe we should have been on their side in WW1, but no way in hell for WW2.
Great video (ignoring the last part) but I don’t think some of the stuff afterwards would happen, mainly with Canada. Newfoundland was extremely pro British, having still been a independent country. I would see them remaining one, unless they ended up being forcefully taken. Second, I would think many other parts of Canada other than the maritimes would become states. Having most of Canada being territory would just make it more likely for anti-American sentiment to go, having gone from an independent-ish country to having no power. I would think the USA would try to make more states, BC, Ontario, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba. Best bet if they didn’t want a future rebellion would be to give the provinces statehood. But just the idea of US invading Canada seems a bit stretched. US-Canada relations were at a good point during that period, with new trade agreements, and while there were disputes with boarder, there was no government desires for annexation at the time. I would say that them invading Canada would only be if a conflict broke out between the two, which might have happened, but seeing that your premise involves US’ trade, and that leading to conflict, I could see them still try to be on trading terms with Canada. I also wouldn’t discount the ingenuity of Canadians in the war. They won many battles that every other army lost. I can see a huge fight being put up, eventually resulting in a stalemate that would only end after a treaty. I think this is likely as like you said, the Americans weren’t prepared for war, Canada was already, and while the Americans had more numbers, the Canadian soldiers were hardened, and could put up a fight, especially since they had just implemented conscription that year. They would have had brand new soldiers and the experienced old ones, and to top it off, they had American weaponry, as during the war, Canada was buying from America, since America wanted to trade. So because of having fresh new troops, old experienced ones, and technology from America, unless in this alternate history world USA hadn’t traded with Canada or had as good relations, I don’t see them 1. Invading Canada, and 2. If they do, being able to take much territory for much of the battle, and the Canadians holding till a treaty was made, and 3. If it does goes as you said, I would see all the provinces become states and Newfoundland and Quebec remaining independent.
This guy has officially changed history