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"There were no waverers, no stragglers, not a man looked back. It was a magnificent display of trained and disciplined valour, and its assault only failed of success because dead men can advance no further." British General Aylmer Hunter-Weston speaking of the action of the Newfoundland Regiment at Beaumont Hamel.
My brother was on a tour and went to the Messines Memorial. He mentioned to an American that he was a Kiwi and our "memorial day" was April 25 and explained about the Dardanelles Campaign. The American replied that in his country, they only celebrated winners. My 6'5" brother said he was never closer to punching a stranger in his face.
In other words, their officers sent everyone to their deaths in an impossible suicide attack. I can see why they want to talk about bravery and valour instead.
"Look, this is the amount of land we've recaptured since yesterday. What is the actual scale of this map?" "The map is actually life-size, Sir. It's superbly detailed. Look, look, there's a little worm." "Oh, yes. So the actual amount of land retaken is?" "Seventeen square feet, Sir."
@@anthonyeaton5153 Don't know if this is what they meant, but many would argue US 'won' because of everything they sold to the allies. Not war victory winning, but war profiteering winning.
Crazy coincidence, I was at Verdun last week and have been rewatching some Great War vids since then. Just two days ago I was disappointed not to find a Somme video, and here it is!
To read the last letter from the soldier to his wife just to hear that he died that day is just heartbreaking. I mean Hundreds of thousands died but the fate of that one human can have an deep impact in comparison to the pure number of casualties... Thank you for this Video !
The assault of the Royal Newfoundland was doomed from the start. In no man's land there was a skeletal tree that command designated as a rally point; but being one of the only landmarks remaining in the desolation, the Germans used it as a sighting point for their guns. The Newfoundlanders that made it there were cut down mercilessly, and a replica of the "danger tree" remains in the spot where so many men fell
Douglas Haig claiming after the battle that it was really about attrition reminds me of Erich von Falkenhayn's claims about Verdun. "Nooo, you don't understand! I meant for it to be a meat grinder! It was all about attrition from the start!" Ps. I'm loving these overview videos; they pair well with the weekly episodes, like chocolate and red wine 👌
Kronprinz Wilhelm and The Kaiser did support Von Falkenhayn'account of Operation Gericht, after the war. The lack of written evidence is probably down to German Army records later being lost during Allied bombing, in WW 2.
"The only visible sign that the men knew they were under this terrific fire was that they all instinctively tucked their chins into an advanced shoulder as they had so often done when fighting their way home against a blizzard in some little outport in far off Newfoundland." ~ Major A. Raley 1st NFLD Regiment
I remember with fondness talking to my great Grandfather in the 1960's he was a WWI British Veteran and he fought at the Somme , we found documents in his personal possessions after he died aged 86 that shed light on his service . He was both machine gunned and gassed during the battle but still survived , when they say they don't make them like they used to they weren't joking . He was a quiet and gentle soul and you would have never known what he went through .
@@MisterOcclusionas long as you can take the rate of attrition for a day longer than your opponent you have a winning plan...its cynical but its winning
@@davewolfy2906 No it wasn't, it was actually Field Marshal Sir Alan Brooke (CIGS) who believed that the way to victory was to conduct a war of attrition.
Different war, but the US captured a VC at Dien Bien Phu. They couldn't believe his belligerence and confidence. And then a B-52 strike came in. He evacuated himself. High explosive does some horrible things.
Nearly every town and village in Britain have memorials to the men of 1914-1918 Now, our tiny village in Gloucestershire has a memorial dedicated to the 20 or so lads who joined, probably in those Pals battalions. I noticed that mostly all those men died during the Battle of the Somme. A entire generation of men from our village wiped out, poor lads.
The soldier didn't win.. they never win they just suffer and die.. My grandfather was there and a few other places during that war.. He never spoke about to me when I was young.. but after I got out of the Marines back in 72 we spent hours talking about it.. I hate war...
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The memorial to the missing of the Somme is at Thiepval. However, there's a smaller one at Beaumont Hamel in memory of the war dead of the Dominion of Newfoundland.
@@paulmadryga My 2nd Great Granduncle served with the Newfoundland Regiment in WW1, wounded at Gueudecourt on the Somme in 1916, he survived the war and lived till his 90's. We're currently having a Tomb of the Unknown Soldier being built here, it's being revealed July 1st, in Honor of Beaumont-Hamel.
It’s quite fascinating reading about major WW1 battles. How the casualties between attackers and defenders were often very close. It shows how a lot of what is believed about how these battles were fought is, well myths. The French and Germans suffered roughly equal casualties at Verdun. The Germans lost almost as many men defending on the Somme as the British lost attacking.
What`s hidden in the final numbers for battles is that even the overall defendiong side (Germans on the Somme and French at Verdun) launched many counterattacks. These were quite costly, given that in general attacking was more costly than defending.
The best way of imagining the effect on the British perception of WW1, in my opinion, is Mike Harding's song and live intoduction to it, called "The Acrington Pals". As mentioned in the video, the Pals from the same towns or cities, mostly in northern England, all dying together on the same day, at the start of this battle, was a disaster for a whole generation in those areas.
Not sure if they made that much money actually. At least in France a lot of armament production was nationalized at that point. Was it different in Britain?
@siyar-mc1xz 'oh no it wasn't our fault, us leaders of these countries, we totally weren't eager to start a war and take each other's lands, um, um, blame those people we bought the guns off to do it with, they're really mean and convinced us to do it, it's not like Germany was eager to expand its empire, France wanted to get revenge and Britain wanted to act like the global big dog!'
From the German source the British losses are 108 724 dead, 40 971 missing and around 6000 captured while 343 431 were wounded. The French losses is stated as 205 000. For the Germans we have 50 900 killed in action while 78 301 were missing and 273 132 wounded. The British captured 40 207 Germans in 1916 and most of them were at the Battle of the Somme. Thus total losses for the British Empire are above 450 000, for the French 205 000 and the German Empire between 420 000 and 465 000. As stated by Basil Liddell Hart "nothing but stupid mutual mass slaughter".
My uncle's regiment was there. He joined up in 1916 but I do not think he was at the battle. Many others, including Vimy and Passchendaele but, perhaps, not that one.
Another excellent video Jesse! I always regarded the Somme as a British victory because the Germans had to abandon that battlefield early in '17 to go behind the Hindenburg Line but after watching your video I now think it was a German victory containing the seed of their ultimate defeat.
Jesse's mention of Clausewitz here confirms that he & Bret Devereaux need to do a collab; it would be glorious! Just picture it: Jesse: I'm Jesse Alexander... Bret: ...and I'm Bret Devereaux! Jesse: This has been a production of Real Time History... Bret: ...the only TH-cam history channel that drinks every time we say "Clausewitz"!
The world remembers the Somme with the old saw about lions being led by donkeys. An old saying it turns out; this from the History Skills website: "The ancient Roman biographer, Plutarch, attributed to Chabrias the saying that "an army of deer commanded by a lion is more to be feared than an army of lions commanded by a deer"."
This channel is like lil Belgium in the first world war, it just REFUSES to go silent. And i love it! Love u TGW team, love u Belgium lol (im not even belgian i just idk why the comparison came to my mind)
It's funny because "Som" means catfish in Croatian and it's pronounced exactly the same. It sounds like the English heard it and made a massive mythology around this battle of the catfish
The US was supplying artillery, ammunition, and some small arms to the Allies at the time, long before its entry into the war. Due to the British blockade, corresponding supplies could not be delivered to Germany. A small amount of supplies (I think mostly rare metals) were delivered to Germany on one voyage of the German merchant submarine Deutschland (later converted to an offensive submarine).
after the legendary General James won the battle of the Somme he and his soldiers used the momentum gained from the victory to march on Ohio a few weeks later.
Ok history nerd calling out to thr math nerds here...at 6:40 theres a picture of an underground mike being detonated that was apparently ineffective...using the silhouettes of trees just to the left and the trees just in front seemingly about halfway between the cameraman and the blast. Id like to measure how tall the blast is and with that guessstimate how big the chunks of rock being thrown around are...the honored sons of the fatherland gotta have 5-6 foot wide chunks of clay reigning down for like 300 feet.
Hi there just a suggestion by this time in America the dachshund was considered to be German and thus declined to the point where they were believed to be only 12 in the Americas maybe you can use it for your run next year
Does anyone know the background or context of the picture at 16:08 ? Is it surrendering troops together or all British troops wearing other helmets as a joke?
Like Jutland, the Somme was a tactical loss, but a strategic win. The objective to loosen the pressure on Verdun was successful, but at significant cost. The British took huge losses in raw recruits, but learned from it. This was the first step to the superb fighting forces of the 'Hundred Days' in 1918. Ludendorff said that the German Army would collapse if there was another battle on the scale of the Somme.
What a disaster. No wonder our world is so screwed up. My mom had an old uncle that fought in WW1, American side. He came back from the war very mean. He was a tough old son of a gun. Wish I had more of his old stories. Rest in peace.
Could lack of adequate training of the "Kitchener mob" have been a factor in the lack of British success? Thinking of a Gallipoli incident where two mostly-untrained British regiments were assigned to hold a strategic hill, and were driven off it by Turks under the future Ataturk.
Haig wanted to postpone it for at least another 2 months for that very reason. The BEF was still too green and untrained for the task to his mind, but when you're part of a coalition, and a junior member at that, you've always got outside parties putting pressure on you to do things you don't want to.
Oooh! I know the answer to the question. Krupp, Vickers, Mauser, Enfield, Fray Bentos just off the top of my head. But the military/industrial complex of the day. That's who won.
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imagine being the guy telling a conscript "well it's a battle of attrition, i hope you said your goodbyes..."
A war of attrition in Europe is happening right now.
"There were no waverers, no stragglers, not a man looked back. It was a magnificent display of trained and disciplined valour, and its assault only failed of success because dead men can advance no further."
British General Aylmer Hunter-Weston speaking of the action of the Newfoundland Regiment at Beaumont Hamel.
My brother was on a tour and went to the Messines Memorial. He mentioned to an American that he was a Kiwi and our "memorial day" was April 25 and explained about the Dardanelles Campaign. The American replied that in his country, they only celebrated winners. My 6'5" brother said he was never closer to punching a stranger in his face.
"Better Than the Best"
In other words, their officers sent everyone to their deaths in an impossible suicide attack.
I can see why they want to talk about bravery and valour instead.
“A northern soldier is worth 10 southerners!” Lmfao
More than 600,000 Allied casualties for 6 miles of land. I see this as an absolute win!
"Look, this is the amount of land we've recaptured since yesterday. What is the actual scale of this map?"
"The map is actually life-size, Sir. It's superbly detailed. Look, look, there's a little worm."
"Oh, yes. So the actual amount of land retaken is?"
"Seventeen square feet, Sir."
That’s an oversimplification.
@@michaelsinger4638dude it's a comment on a youtube video...
Death won.
@@TheTutch so what?
As with the Great War, as a whole, no one won, Europe lost.
Britain certainly NEVER recovered, and it was the beginning of the end for that once-great nation and empire
US won
@@RetreatHell France neither.
@@jrdsmWhen the US came into the war in 1917 didn’t see action proper until 1918. What you say is utter nonsense. Which university did you attend.
@@anthonyeaton5153 Don't know if this is what they meant, but many would argue US 'won' because of everything they sold to the allies. Not war victory winning, but war profiteering winning.
5:50 The sad thing is, Charles died that day. His friend ended up marrying Bessie and looked after his daughter. RIP Charles May
I was looking for a post on this before asking about it. Very sad.
They actually say this in the video at 8:30.
@@theheadshot45 They do indeed, however I read this in the comments before I got to 8:30 on the video.
That's why it's sometimes better to avoid war
i’d be sick if my friend took my family after i died
Crazy coincidence, I was at Verdun last week and have been rewatching some Great War vids since then. Just two days ago I was disappointed not to find a Somme video, and here it is!
I was at Verdun last year. A powerful experience.
To read the last letter from the soldier to his wife just to hear that he died that day is just heartbreaking. I mean Hundreds of thousands died but the fate of that one human can have an deep impact in comparison to the pure number of casualties... Thank you for this Video !
The assault of the Royal Newfoundland was doomed from the start. In no man's land there was a skeletal tree that command designated as a rally point; but being one of the only landmarks remaining in the desolation, the Germans used it as a sighting point for their guns. The Newfoundlanders that made it there were cut down mercilessly, and a replica of the "danger tree" remains in the spot where so many men fell
Douglas Haig claiming after the battle that it was really about attrition reminds me of Erich von Falkenhayn's claims about Verdun. "Nooo, you don't understand! I meant for it to be a meat grinder! It was all about attrition from the start!"
Ps. I'm loving these overview videos; they pair well with the weekly episodes, like chocolate and red wine 👌
Haig didn’t pick the battlefield nor did he plan the battle. That was not his job.
Henry Rawlinson did most of the planning.
I mean, the Chantilly conference in 1915 already decided attrition was the way they would fight the war going forward...
Except that attrition was actually the goal of the battle of Verdun
@@davidbowen5621 Eh, it's murky on whether or not that is the case, and depends on what you read really IMO.
Kronprinz Wilhelm and The Kaiser did support Von Falkenhayn'account of Operation Gericht, after the war. The lack of written evidence is probably down to German Army records later being lost during Allied bombing, in WW 2.
"The only visible sign that the men knew they were under this terrific fire was that they all instinctively tucked their chins into an advanced shoulder as they had so often done when fighting their way home against a blizzard in some little outport in far off Newfoundland." ~ Major A. Raley 1st NFLD Regiment
I remember with fondness talking to my great Grandfather in the 1960's he was a WWI British Veteran and he fought at the Somme , we found documents in his personal possessions after he died aged 86 that shed light on his service . He was both machine gunned and gassed during the battle but still survived , when they say they don't make them like they used to they weren't joking . He was a quiet and gentle soul and you would have never known what he went through .
Well SommeONE won it
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😂😂😂😂😂😂 I gotta know where ya heard that
Slow clap😂
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WW1 commanders when their overly ambitious attack with no clear objective fails: “why we were trying to defeat the enemy through attrition of course”
Supposedly, that was Monty's plan for us British and Canadians in Normandy - after they failed to take Caen.
I can't believe they tried to pull off a Falkenhayn on this one.
When your plan is attrition, you’ve already lost.
Like throwing money into a slot machine, with the hope of breaking even.
@@MisterOcclusionas long as you can take the rate of attrition for a day longer than your opponent you have a winning plan...its cynical but its winning
@@davewolfy2906 No it wasn't, it was actually Field Marshal Sir Alan Brooke (CIGS) who believed that the way to victory was to conduct a war of attrition.
2 MILLION artillery rounds in ONE week…. Can’t imagine being on the receiving end of such a sustained barrage of artillery.
Different war, but the US captured a VC at Dien Bien Phu. They couldn't believe his belligerence and confidence. And then a B-52 strike came in. He evacuated himself. High explosive does some horrible things.
The reverberations would be insane
How did those artillerymen not go deaf lmao
I wonder if that would bé possible today with modern artillery
Germans fired 5 million shells just at march 21th 1918
Nearly every town and village in Britain have memorials to the men of 1914-1918
Now, our tiny village in Gloucestershire has a memorial dedicated to the 20 or so lads who joined, probably in those Pals battalions. I noticed that mostly all those men died during the Battle of the Somme. A entire generation of men from our village wiped out, poor lads.
Nice to see a WWI presenter who knows how to pronounce "Newfoundland" correctly.
Helps that I am Canadian.
@@jessealexander2695lots of Canadians seem to struggle with it, too.
Fascinating and informative as always, thank you!
Thank you for the hard work here and on your other channel. Sharp quality in these documentaries. Always look forward to more!
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Excellent, and highly informative. Superb mix of even-handed narrative, pix, period film, and modern maps and data.
Thanks!
Another well produced, balanced account of a pivotal time in the Great War. Keep up the great work!
Thanks!
Fascinating! I hope to see an analysis of the Battle of Passchendaele in the future.
Another great documentary, as always. Thanks for uploading, Great War team!
Thanks!
That note at 6:00 breaks my heart. So many who didn’t make it had a similar story and life with people back home who loved them.
The soldier didn't win.. they never win they just suffer and die.. My grandfather was there and a few other places during that war.. He never spoke about to me when I was young.. but after I got out of the Marines back in 72 we spent hours talking about it.. I hate war...
brilliant as always. Captivating. Thank you
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Some facts and figures I didn't know and well presented, great work guys.
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I went to Beaumont Hammel in 2016, the monument to the missing British empire soldiers was truly staggering
The memorial to the missing of the Somme is at Thiepval. However, there's a smaller one at Beaumont Hamel in memory of the war dead of the Dominion of Newfoundland.
@@paulmadryga we drove to the larger monument, I didn't realize it was a town over. It was all of 5 minutes away
@@iwishiwaschrismacavoy8116 - Yeah, everything's pretty close there. Hard to comprehend that so much went down in such a geographically-small area.
@@paulmadryga My 2nd Great Granduncle served with the Newfoundland Regiment in WW1, wounded at Gueudecourt on the Somme in 1916, he survived the war and lived till his 90's. We're currently having a Tomb of the Unknown Soldier being built here, it's being revealed July 1st, in Honor of Beaumont-Hamel.
I was the first guide at Beaumont Hamel
This is very wel explained, and thank you for the mention of the brave Newfoundlanders
I was a guide at Vimy - coudn`t leave them out. :)
You guys do great work!
It’s quite fascinating reading about major WW1 battles. How the casualties between attackers and defenders were often very close. It shows how a lot of what is believed about how these battles were fought is, well myths.
The French and Germans suffered roughly equal casualties at Verdun. The Germans lost almost as many men defending on the Somme as the British lost attacking.
What`s hidden in the final numbers for battles is that even the overall defendiong side (Germans on the Somme and French at Verdun) launched many counterattacks. These were quite costly, given that in general attacking was more costly than defending.
Nah they lost way less. That was a disaster!
Rats and flies won. They had a great feast.
Please do some special episodes / docs like this one for Argonne & Champagne! This and the verdun video are great
The best way of imagining the effect on the British perception of WW1, in my opinion, is Mike Harding's song and live intoduction to it, called "The Acrington Pals". As mentioned in the video, the Pals from the same towns or cities, mostly in northern England, all dying together on the same day, at the start of this battle, was a disaster for a whole generation in those areas.
My great grandfather was in a Newfoundland regiment and was shot in the leg on the first day.
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The arms dealer won in somme
Not sure if they made that much money actually. At least in France a lot of armament production was nationalized at that point. Was it different in Britain?
@@amogusenjoyer Brother ignore those people. According to them all wars are waged by bankers and arms dealers😂
@@amogusenjoyer some middleman must exist in the supply chain that probably got filthy rich from all the government contracts for weaponry
@siyar-mc1xz 'oh no it wasn't our fault, us leaders of these countries, we totally weren't eager to start a war and take each other's lands, um, um, blame those people we bought the guns off to do it with, they're really mean and convinced us to do it, it's not like Germany was eager to expand its empire, France wanted to get revenge and Britain wanted to act like the global big dog!'
@@siyar-mc1xz It's projecting the modern world into that of 100 years ago
Great episode
Thanks!
RIP
To the 95,675 British troops, 50,729 French troops, and 164,055 Imperial German troops who were killed in the Battle of the Somme
From the German source the British losses are 108 724 dead, 40 971 missing and around 6000 captured while 343 431 were wounded. The French losses is stated as 205 000.
For the Germans we have 50 900 killed in action while 78 301 were missing and 273 132 wounded. The British captured 40 207 Germans in 1916 and most of them were at the Battle of the Somme. Thus total losses for the British Empire are above 450 000, for the French 205 000 and the German Empire between 420 000 and 465 000. As stated by Basil Liddell Hart "nothing but stupid mutual mass slaughter".
Great video
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Another great episode of the great war
Otro gran episodio
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Very interesting
My uncle's regiment was there. He joined up in 1916 but I do not think he was at the battle. Many others, including Vimy and Passchendaele but, perhaps, not that one.
Another excellent video Jesse! I always regarded the Somme as a British victory because the Germans had to abandon that battlefield early in '17 to go behind the Hindenburg Line but after watching your video I now think it was a German victory containing the seed of their ultimate defeat.
6:14 soldier on right was like - I go sleep now - I even cross legs to be more comfortable
Jesse's mention of Clausewitz here confirms that he & Bret Devereaux need to do a collab; it would be glorious! Just picture it:
Jesse: I'm Jesse Alexander...
Bret: ...and I'm Bret Devereaux!
Jesse: This has been a production of Real Time History...
Bret: ...the only TH-cam history channel that drinks every time we say "Clausewitz"!
The world remembers the Somme with the old saw about lions being led by donkeys. An old saying it turns out; this from the History Skills website: "The ancient Roman biographer, Plutarch, attributed to Chabrias the saying that "an army of deer commanded by a lion is more to be feared than an army of lions commanded by a deer"."
If possible do belluwood. Great video
This channel is like lil Belgium in the first world war, it just REFUSES to go silent. And i love it!
Love u TGW team, love u Belgium lol (im not even belgian i just idk why the comparison came to my mind)
Great!
Thank you.
Thanks
The Charles May quote always brings tears to my eyes, it is so poignant
Like the war in general: Nobody won, some people just lost more badly than others.
It's funny because "Som" means catfish in Croatian and it's pronounced exactly the same. It sounds like the English heard it and made a massive mythology around this battle of the catfish
the owners of the coffin, cross, and shovel factory
My great uncle was killed in the Battle of the Somme.
I love how the US was not even in the war yet, and Germany was still mad at us.
Yeah, I was wait, what 😂
The US was supplying artillery, ammunition, and some small arms to the Allies at the time, long before its entry into the war. Due to the British blockade, corresponding supplies could not be delivered to Germany. A small amount of supplies (I think mostly rare metals) were delivered to Germany on one voyage of the German merchant submarine Deutschland (later converted to an offensive submarine).
the amount of casualties is crazy
It was ME, i won the battle.
Congratulations
Ha! Ha! Ha! Amateur! It was me!
You won the battle, but you lost the war.
after the legendary General James won the battle of the Somme he and his soldiers used the momentum gained from the victory to march on Ohio a few weeks later.
@@TheRealForgetfulElephant That's me!!
Ok history nerd calling out to thr math nerds here...at 6:40 theres a picture of an underground mike being detonated that was apparently ineffective...using the silhouettes of trees just to the left and the trees just in front seemingly about halfway between the cameraman and the blast. Id like to measure how tall the blast is and with that guessstimate how big the chunks of rock being thrown around are...the honored sons of the fatherland gotta have 5-6 foot wide chunks of clay reigning down for like 300 feet.
Chunks of clay raining down
Can you make a WWI country video on the country of Liberia and the Central American countries?
Hi there just a suggestion by this time in America the dachshund was considered to be German and thus declined to the point where they were believed to be only 12 in the Americas maybe you can use it for your run next year
The more I learn about WW1 the more I wonder how they got anyone to fight it.
The munitions industry tbh, the increase in requirements and investment was jaw dropping
Shows the Anglophobic Petain and his later treachery up for what it was
Does anyone know the background or context of the picture at 16:08 ? Is it surrendering troops together or all British troops wearing other helmets as a joke?
Souvenirs
Like Jutland, the Somme was a tactical loss, but a strategic win. The objective to loosen the pressure on Verdun was successful, but at significant cost. The British took huge losses in raw recruits, but learned from it. This was the first step to the superb fighting forces of the 'Hundred Days' in 1918. Ludendorff said that the German Army would collapse if there was another battle on the scale of the Somme.
Interesting
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My grandad was shot in the elbow at the Somme. His brother and three cousins were killed in the war.
12:01 oh I Got the reference!
The fact this battle lasted as long as it did should be criminal. It should have ended when nothing was gained immediately.
I did, got a receipt and all
If the battle Somme happens again it will be on Colour film recording
Greetings from the BIG SKY. My grandfather had 2 brothers there.
Whoa
What a disaster. No wonder our world is so screwed up. My mom had an old uncle that fought in WW1, American side. He came back from the war very mean. He was a tough old son of a gun. Wish I had more of his old stories. Rest in peace.
Like most of the large battles of the first world war, Germany won the battle but lost the strategic advantage.
No one… its war so no winners
The Grim Reaper is the only winner here
Can the next documentary be about the Brusilov offensive?🙏🙏🙏
We did an episode on it, just look at our videos from last year.
@@jessealexander2695 Jesse the 🐐
2 steps ahead as always
The flies were the only winners at the somme
All those dead soldiers just to advance 10 kms in enemy territory. What a waste of human life..
in a shocking turn-around, the Ottomans won it
I Still cant believe these guys get 1 minute of salute rather than the other clowns get a full month
Nobody wins in war
Where did your compilation of outro jokes for the Franco Prussian War go?
Many men from Lancashire would fall that day, lest we forget
Only Death and his minions really won that battle.
Too bad
Over 500,000 casualties for 10km, what success is there in that?
As with all things WWI, it's only the crows that won
A little math tells me the Brits lost 13 men killed PER minute over the 24hrs of July 1st, 1916.
Could lack of adequate training of the "Kitchener mob" have been a factor in the lack of British success? Thinking of a Gallipoli incident where two mostly-untrained British regiments were assigned to hold a strategic hill, and were driven off it by Turks under the future Ataturk.
Haig wanted to postpone it for at least another 2 months for that very reason. The BEF was still too green and untrained for the task to his mind, but when you're part of a coalition, and a junior member at that, you've always got outside parties putting pressure on you to do things you don't want to.
Oooh! I know the answer to the question. Krupp, Vickers, Mauser, Enfield, Fray Bentos just off the top of my head. But the military/industrial complex of the day. That's who won.
ya got to flood out tunnels isnt the somme a river? find someone who can jpoin the river and tunnels
The MCAM always wins in every war. Military Contractors Arms Manufacturers.