Why I Loved The Batman - The Batman Spoiler Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 มี.ค. 2022
- I absolutely loved The Batman. The other day, I went through and gave a non-spoiler review of the movie and had a great time talking about it. Now, I want to actually dive fully into the movie and really talk about everything. Jill and I have been really looking forward to talking about this movie. #gothamknights #batman #thebatman
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"But you know he's thinking a lot because he's really stoic and handsome and you just want to throw him down onto a bed?"
"No, I don't, I don't know that."
This is also the most intimidating Batman we've gotten so far. It's so cool to see that some criminals actually fear him. And I loved how he made mistakes in the movie, and how he got hit alot. It just shows that he's inexperienced and has to learn alot. It made him more human.
You think Batfleck isn’t intimidating? People were practically shitting themselves when he showed up
@@theAverageJoe25 will he was intimidating. Robert and Ben are intimidating Batmans.
This is my only actual problem with the movie, that while yes the criminals are shown to be afraid of him, he lacks the physique to justify the fear. This is not a huge gripe still 8.5/10 and neck and neck with the dark knight for the best Batman movie
@@Aleks-ot5ns where he lack in a huge Physique he made up for it in his attitude. His is eyes truly showed tormented soul and why people are terrified of him, it just shows that not every Batman has to be massive. Heck we see it in comics and animated shows where some version of Batman aren’t really big.
@@jonathanmartinez3956 I agree on the attitude, but all of the most iconic iterations are also physically intimidating its a minor gripe as I said the movie is phenomenal and def top 3 best comic book movies ever
I saw Batman for the second time today and it truly is an incredible film
Can’t wait to see more from this franchise
It's The Batman
Same I just watched it today and I think it's the best batman film of all time I also i think it has a lot of inspiration from the Arkham games which I have played all of and beat 12 times each
I think almost every character in the movie is the best version we have gotten yet. I really hope battinson will be like Hugh Jackman with wolverine and play the character for a really long time. We finally have a definitive live action batman
Falcone could be a little better but overall a 10/10
@@Bigtrapsosa1 I was on the opposite side of that; when John Turturro was initially cast as Falcone, I thought uhh wtf… but in the end, I thought he was great. He definitely pulled off the kind of boss that’s got ice in his veins. It is all opinion though at the end of the day, I respect it 🤷♂️
Wow I thought the complete opposite. I thought that I’ve seen better portrayals of almost every character in this movie. I felt Christian Bale did a better job at playing Batman because he actually played Batman AND Bruce Wayne while Robert Pattinson played Batman all the time, even when he was Bruce Wayne. I thought wasn’t selfish or cunning enough to be Catwoman, her story felt so u catwoman like. Even Gordon felt so one sided. The Riddler felt like someone you should fear until at the end of the movie where he looked like he was doing his best Jim Carry imitation. Did not like this movie, it had good moments but did not work for me.
Falcone was a lot better in gotham
@@jackseaton7486 do you know who falcone is? He is nothing like how falcone is supposed to be
I loved this movie so much. And this already looks like the most hopeful live-action Batman, yet.
When he held that girl's hand and reassured her with his eyes, that hit me hard. It reminded of the Batman and Ace scene in JLU.
My only problem with the action is that the fight scenes weren’t long enough. They were great, but if only they had a minute to a minute and a half more in each scene of Batman kicking ass
I understand that but it's also good because batman is basically Bruce Lee on p.e.d.'s messing up some goons that have been in a few street fights I like that it's almost over in a flash at some points because it showcases his finesse and skill and the times when he's overwhelmed and trys to figure it out
@@stoney9207 Still no excuse for the final two fight scenes. By that time, it’s time for some longer kickassery
She actually wasn't told that she was"Too Urban " Zoe confirmed it on her Instagram account
That's good
Can we talk about the uses of Something in the Way? It is the same song but at the points it’s used make it feel so different.
When the Riddler thug said: “I’m vengeance” right in front of an exhausted Batman and him being pulled into the moment, realizing that the way he’s doing things isn’t right. And that he can help as Bruce Wayne is amazing.
I came to the movie theater with low expectations, I'm glad I was wrong
That adrenaline shot is actually a form of the Venom drug used by Bane!!
Hey jay and Jill thank you so much for your videos they really help motivate me during the day! My husband got deployed recently and it’s very lonely in the house so listening to you guys talk is very comforting during this time of my life! Thank you so much and I can’t wait to get more stuff from Jill shop! Have an amazing day guys!!
I would say this the Best Batman film since the Dark Knight and the most Batman since Batman Begins.
Batman begins is better than dark knight to me
@@skywalker2676 nah dark knight is better because of heath ledger joker
Such an awesome dynamic from batman and Gordon we finally got to see. Lots of beautiful shots, awesome music and great performances. Loved the neo noir detective aspects (Chinatown, Se7en, Zodiac vibes) as well as evident comic inspiration. Really enjoyed the movie, and I think it will only sink in more with time how special the narrative and style are, taking a new approach to the "superhero" film.
BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE JAY
I loved Pattinson and Kravitz as Batman and Catwoman! They’re my favorite live action versions of those characters. But I loved, loved, loved Riddler in this movie! He is an amalgamation of different Batman comics versions, the movie Se7en, and maybe a hint of Arkham. His Riddles were actually brilliant, he was insane, and he was a step ahead of everyone. Aside from the Joker, Riddler is my favorite Batman villain and I’m happy that people are starting to not see him as a joke anymore.
The way to make this Riddler perfect is for him to hide a few hundred Riddler Trophies across Gotham for Batman to figure out his endgame.
Since it's a spoiler review, I'm gonna say I loved Earth One elements they implemented into the script, especially the thing with Bruce's mother and her side of the family, their last name is Arkham instead of Kane. They followed certain parts from the comic that were really great and they did it so well. Also this version of Alfred is a badass. Former British Intelligence officer, taught Bruce his combination of martial arts, and I loved those parts. Amazing movie. One of a kind experience.
Yeah I saw several comic influences. The contact lens thing from Court of Owls. Carmine being Selinas dad in Long Halloween. Riddler flooding the city like in Zero Year. Alfred having taught Bruce how to fight like in Earth One. I'm sure theres more I'm forgetting.
6:45 THANK YOU SO MUCH for saying that! I’m not the only one
Went to see it today what a film loved the film noir aspect and the depth into him who are you ideal villains for the sequel I’d like hush or bane similar to Arkham origins
When Batman beat up the first thug in the train station u literally could see him savor it I can’t be the only one who noticed
15:29 great way to put it, the line is clearly suppose to build to character development from Catwoman, she's saying it to Batman, a billionaire white man, and yet he's always portrayed as one of, if not the most morally justified person in his stories.
Jay I’m not gonna lie I’ve only been watching you for a couple months but you’re my favorite TH-camr I just love your content please don’t ever stop making videos
Love the vids keep up the good work
Been waiting for this.
I want to mention that I genuinely believe what Batman injected himself with when Selina was being attacked was venom. An adrenaline shot makes sense, but it's such a particular detail that I can see it being a way to introduce Bane in the future
The way he reacted to it also gave off Bane vibes, especially when you look at Bane bulking up in shows and comics. Even though Bane has done the process almost a million times, he still feels the rush and it shows. Looking at how Batman reacted in the film, you could argue that he’s only ever done that enough times to count on one hand and his reaction to the drug was a lot worse because of that.
I watched all the Batman movies in order before watching The Batman and this movie was way better! The other Batman movies are just full of nostalgia.
Loved Matt Reeves The Batman. I was captivated by this movie since the "Something in the Way" trailer. Robert Pattinson is my favorite Batman actor, but depending on where his character goes he will also be my favorite iteration of Batman.
The opening scene reminds me of a predator section for an Arkham game with the shadow imagery
One thing I really love about this film is the setting of Gotham. It’s a realistic interpretation of Gotham a city frozen in time due to the corruption within stopping it from progressing. One shot that made me say this is Gotham, is near the start where it’s raining. You have the large building with neon signs and the large tv screens and the crowded streets.
Robert Pattinson really showed Batman being a detective
this batman was the most detective we scene in the live-action batman films
10/10. That’s it
When the riddler said “waking up to rats eating your fingers” I actually felt sad like this movie’s dialogue was perfect
Why i have to collect 450 trophies and Rob just goes for the detective missions ???? isn't fair
“I want him in my house” I’m dying.
I don't think that was an adrenaline shot. I think it was a vial of Bane's Venom, which is an amazing reference. It was green after all and adrenaline isn't green
I also think this was the best live-action Batman movie because as much as I liked some others, I think it combined everything very well in a way that didn't make any weird choices and portrayed a modern, serious Batman that basically gets everything right in its own way
I think the "Bruce Wayne is the mask thing" theme some Batman stories go for is more referring to his playboy antics and charm that he puts on (which is something that is a bit more apparent in the Nolan trilogy and The Batman kept his Bruce Wayne persona really close to his actual personality) but also perhaps more importantly the theme that he keeps himself from developing close relationships and sharing his emotions because of his dedication to being "Batman" (stoicism and duty) and that maybe he sees those things as a distraction or hindrance when really some of them shouldn't be both for his own well-being and for the well-being of those people close to him
Batman: Bad Blood got it right, Batman and Bruce Wayne can both be masks but as he becomes more true to himself neither are
By far my favorite live action Batman movie, first city that really felt like Gotham. Also do you think that you’ll be live streaming again soon? Those were fun
I really liked this movie. I thought it was great and probably my second or third favorite Batman, but I do have one big complaint-ish. I thought that the city flooding was too much/big for two main reasons: it didn’t really fit with the rest of the movie which was more grounded-ish and it felt tacked on. Also, I noticed MAYBE a bit of messaging, but it didn’t really affect my opinion on the movie, plus, with Catwoman it kinda fits her character.
I loved it, I saw it opening weekend on that Saturday, I have a couple nitpicks but those are me just really trying to find something that don't mean much if anything at all, it doesn't change my overall experience with it.
I loved the end of the movie, I've seen people say the third act is the worst but in my opinion, it's the best, how Batman started out as vengeance and basically instilling fear into everyone. And in the end, he's a symbol of hope now, and how he lead people out of the flooded area in the end, and how that kid or women wanted to keep holding him after he set her down on the stretcher, like, I loved that.
The Batmobile chase scene is just superb 🔥🔥
I loved the movie! The story was great, the characters were great, the cinematography was great, I totally loved the music.
Riddler was a great first villain. We got detective Batman, we got to see how corrupted Gotham is, we got a villain with a very logical (pun intended) origin story. And the Riddler's scheme was awesome. I literally started laughing in the theater when the vastness of the plan was revealed. It was so good.
But the music was the best. That leit motif. I read somewhere that the footsteps you can hear, when Batman approaches in the shadows, mirror the leit motif. Three steps and the fourth one is a bit stronger. And then the way the leit motif expanded at the end of the Penguin car chase scene. It was terrifying! But then it was also present in the softer scenes. It was just so effective.
You never mentioned this but I’m very curious, what are your thoughts on joker? I’m kind of annoyed they’re doing another joker but I’m trying to not be too negative before I see him in his own dedicated movie.
Yes sorry I kind of forgot to mention that Jill mentioned it about 10 minutes after we finished recording because originally our review was almost 40 minutes and it's still pretty long, and she was like hey we never even talked about him, but I'm kind of on the fence. He's really one of the best fictional villains in my opinion, but also there's so many interpretations of him and he's been done over and over and over in live action. Whenever there's a live action Batman, they bring out the Joker. I understand the two are very interlinked, but it is something where I completely understand being tired of seeing that character on the screen and wanting to wait a while. Personally I think it would be cool to see him, but I wouldn't want to see him in a main role until at minimum the third movie. If he's kind of just in the background in the second movie a little bit that's fine with me, but I really don't want the second movie to focus on him.
@@DegenerateJay I agree. If they save him for a bit it would be much better so we have room to breathe.
I think they should have waited till a few movies in to bring out joker
Did you guys try watching it at an AMC Dolby Showing? It really is the best/definitive Dolby movie
You should read the Batman book I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. It's the back story of the characters in the show.
Amazing
THE BEST Batman I’ve seen in the theater SO FAR
The only thing that bothered me is the relative invulnerability of the Batsuit. And that's really not that important and certainly has zero narrative relevance. It just doesn't feel fitting with the rest of the physical "groundedness" (or immersiveness or whatever") the movie is going for in general. Makes him really intimidating in a terminator-like way though, which was probably the intention.
Else I pretty much love this movie. It's probably a bit early for me to say if it is my favorite Batman movie, but it's certainly up there.
"I've been looking forward to this."
I personally really loved this movie and it was great just like I know it would be. Everyone in this movie did a great job and I'm very much excited to see these characters again in a sequel sometime In the future.
I remember in the months leading up to this movie there was a lot of theories he either did kill or was going to kill someone in this movies and I am soooo tired of the "realistic" take were batman either directly or indirectly kills. When this movie made a point of him not wanting anyone to die and showed him being the only light in a city stuck in the shadows I was so happy. This movies understand batman in a way nothing else really has so far
I mean in the final fight scene if I remember correctly he kinda uses a bad guy as a shield because another bad guy is shooting. So technically…
I mean in the final fight scene if I remember correctly he kinda uses a bad guy as a shield because another bad guy is shooting. So technically…
@@melvinloir489 I'll have to rewatch this movie and look out for that, but to my memory the most he did was stay behind goons so they didn't have a clear shot on him. I wouldn't count that as him killing anymore. More a goon killing someone to get to him, but I could be wrong and he could have more directly held someone in line of fire which would slightly change the no kill rule. He still for the most part held true though
I wasn't sure what to expect honestly coming into this one I didn't expect Pattinson to be good as Bruce/Vengeance/Batman and at first I was sure what to think of Riddler either. I saw this and Absolutely loved it, this was a Live Action Batman Year one. Paul Dano did a late nite interview. Paul Dano said that to get in the mind of Riddler and he Did Alot of Research into the Case Of The Zodiac Killer. I Absolutely love that they did away with the Bat tank and went with a Modified '70 Challenger. Lastly Andy Serkis was Brilliant. He wasn't just some subservient old man or used as a plot driver. You could tell Alfred Gave a damn about Bruce, Alfred was actually assisting Bruce in parts of the movie . Alfred was somewhat acting as a surrogate father ,helping guide him to make the best decisions but not afraid to call Bruce out when he isn't acting in the Best interest of what's important
Some 7 year old kid: “I can’t believe you spoiled The Batman for me! I’m Unsubscribing!”
Jay for a minute straight: “This is spoiler review. So if you don’t want spoilers, get out of here”
Glad we got this, this is the kinda Batman we deserve
I loved it too. I saw it twice in theaters.
Mines always going to be the dark Knight but this one is great. I personally never really cared for comics so I'm not bothered If its similar or not
I really enjoyed how they brought Bruce's privilege against him in this film, like not recognising the carpet tool and someone from a working class background knowing it, the fact he's using his ability to create fear rather than inspire hope like his father tried to do and how he has no real idea what it's like to live in thr Gotham slums like thr riddler did
The one thing I was disappointed with was there was not enough of catwoman bc every scene she was in was great
On Catwoman, I feel like this movie gave a very intriguing psychological reason for her love of cats. In this movie, she does not love cats just in the same way everyone else does. I think that in this movie, she brings in strays because she sees herself in them. I think that her relationship with Annika is also a reflection of this. She definitely came off as an almost maternal character here. She does not blindly care for all people. But she will do everything for the people she does care about.
Lmao, bro your own wife just straight up said she’d rather have Robert Pattinson come to her aid than you. 🤣🤣🤣
In the past has Selina ever been Falcone's daughter in the comics or anything or was that purely an invention of the film?
I think it's revealed in the long halloween..also, if you visit calendar man as catwoman in arkham city, he'll make some reference to falcone
@@roosterjackson7258 Ah nice
Gonna buy this on 4k for sure
Me too I'm going all out 4k steelbook hopefully haha
In my opinion I do enjoy this movie this take of detective Batman but it not perfect it was a bit too long and a few thing that were weird decision overall still enjoy the Batman movie here look forward to where this Batman universe will goes move forward
The Batman's intro < The Degenerate Jay's intro. No cap
One of my favorite parts of this movie is literally just Batman’s suit.
My favorite Batman movie
This was the best batman movie that we had since 2008
The dark tone of the movie really matches what I think Batman is. I liked how they made a quality effort in showing Batman’s detective skills which I think a lot of the live movies didn’t show enough. Overall I enjoyed it
I think you are defending Selina a little too much. Like the movie says, everyone has choices to make. Not like she doesn't deserve some sympathy but yeah, laying it on a little too thick.
The term you are looking for regarding Catwoman in the comics is “ethnically ambiguous”
He's Robert Pattinson how could you not?
0:52 coincidence?
I was cautiously optimistic leading into this movie. DC movies are very hit/miss. Can get something great like Wonder Woman and then get something not so great in Josstice League. Was never a fan of Batfleck and here we go with another version and reboot....I was actually very surprised with how good the movie was and it's become one of my favorite live action Batman movies. Not going to say it was a perfect Batman film but at the same time, I really can't think of anything that was all out glaring like "BATMAN WOULD NEVER DO THAT". Here's hoping the sequel(s) work out as great as the first one did, which is a rarity in Hollywood, and all the spinoffs they have planned are actually decent.
Turns out the Zoe Kravitz looking “too urban” isn’t true. Zoe Kravitz came out and said that is wasn’t true. Apparently they did say apparently they weren’t going “urban” on the part.
“The Michael Myers”
Wtf is going on at 2:22 💀
Quick question why aren’t you a huge fan of the Nolan movies
I have a really revolutionary ideas that no one has ever thought of before. Make a spin-off tv show for The Batman movie THAT STARS BATMAN. Like that would print money, but I guess I’m just to forward thinking for the tiny brains at DC
DC has been winning recently with these movie releases I’m loving that the most
This movie was phenomenal
To me Riddler in this movie is like Jigsaw
Think the Dark Knight is the best film batman is in but this is the best batman movie if that makes sense
Really loved everything, all the characters, the plot, everything was top tier
saw the batman two times in one day. Very nice but didnt hit the same as the first time.
when both of them admit their fantasies of sexual attraction to the characters
She made the to urban thing up, she was to young and inexperienced
I slightly disagree about the action. The Dark Knight's truck chase still hasn't been topped.
This movie was not apolitical at all lol.
If they do 3 Movies batgirl or Robin would probably be in the 3 one
I agree modern audiences by the MCU. (Don't get me wrong I love the MCU) But I hate those fans who expect this to be an MCU film but are disappointed because it's not.
I 100% agree. If plot was the same but with a bunch more jokes by Batman and others then the film would be ruined this Batman is darker and more serious even in his time Bruce Wayne. The humor they had was more subtle and darker like the thumb drive moment personally I did not find it funny but on my second viewing there was someone laughing.
@@marcusmaire8197 And there is nothing wrong that it is darker humor and it is subjective but they don't need to have everyone telling jokes which I think you would agree with.
If you guys listened to logic, you’d know that the proper term for mixed race is BIRACIAL
Does it actually matter tho
Unfortunately it wasn’t because he was great and it was all down hill. Good show but a lot of wasted potential towards the end
I Watched the movie the joker wasn't the best robin was cool same as darkseid
Can't believe you spoiled this movie for me
JK
I really wanted to like this movie so much but I just couldn’t. I thought it just copied seven the entire time but seven was a better movie. Seven had more interesting murders being it was rated r and the payoff is better. The twist of “what’s in the box? “ is way better than the riddler wanting to team up like it’s an Xbox live party. Also people keep saying they like this movie because it highlights Batman’s detective skills but he never solves anything for the most part. The Riddler turns himself in and basically tells Batman about the snipers at the end. This just made Batman fell very weak the entire movie as if he never any control over the situation. Riddlers plan was extremely calculated and he had cause the entire movie. I mean he took down all the corruption in Gotham in like a week while Batman is beating up graffiti artist in year 2. So when Riddler decide he decided he wanted to flood the city and started a mass shooting with his followers it made no sense and felt forced. The entire movie he only killed corrupted high officials in a calculated manner to accomplish his goal. I guess they just needed an action for the end though. Lastly I’d like to say the car chase while cool makes no sense . Why would Batman keep chasing penguin once they got highway with all that traffic . It caused a huge car accident and Batman was part of reason that two truck drivers died in the movie. I don’t see why he couldn’t track penguin down later especially since earlier in the movie it already showed him break into the iceberg lounge and interrogate him earlier. So he still could got to him later if really needed to.
I will say the cinematography was really great along with the score, I just couldn’t get past my previous points
my only complaint is that it didn’t start as an origin story that could’ve helped ppl become more connected to the character and I felt kind of weird seeing him getting hit in his h2h combat fights but then went total badass in the end fight
Dude we don’t need a Batman origin story 💀💀there are plenty of those. If you don’t know his origin by now you live under a rock 💀💀🤣🤣🤣
Yeah we've gotten plenty so it wasn't necessary, it always goes down the same way.
@@skywalker2676 did you even read the whole comment 🤡
This is his second year as Batman so it makes sense for him to get hit occasionally by common thugs
Even in the comic Batman year one he would get hit by basic thugs
The movie was okay, but the trailers showed to much I don't think there was a single action scene not shown in trailers.
Bro wtf spoilers 😐
Why are you even clicking on the video it’s been a whole week? Non spoiler reviews are only good past the first weekend. They aren’t obligated to talk non spoilers after that. Use sense don’t click a video that says 5 things I loved about the Batman that is 35 min and expect no spoilers. AND HE EVEN PUT SPOILERS.
@@ID0XX he's joking.
@@ID0XX so gullible 😂😂
Great joke you got the whole squad laughing
@@ID0XX lmao just firm the L
I hope this isn't taken as racist, though I see how it can very easily look like that. I think Zoe Kravitz as Catwoman and making Catwoman a darker skinned character was a really excllent choice. I don't know everything about Batman history, having only really played the games and read a few comics, but from what i've seen Catwoman is supposed to be a character who comes from a place that's fundamentally less advantaged in comparison to not only Bruce and the Waynes/Arkhams in general, but also other working class parts of Gotham, which to me is just more believable when coming from a darker woman and not a white or even porcelain skinned woman as she's been depicted as in most comics. This isn't to say that ALL people of darker skintone live in disadvantaged or more poverty stricken parts of cities, it's obvious that's not the case, but there is an assumption we can make about the socio-economic climate in Gotham that rich white people run the city. I mean, she says it herself in the movie, but some examples can obviously be the Waynes and the Arkhams, and the crime syndicate of Falcone, Oswald, Two-Face and the Joker. Rich white people are what's behind the scenes of Gotham, that's true in both "The Batman" and in a lot of Batman history in general from what i've seen. This also isn't to say that Batman as a character or in his principles is racist, he's just not and neither are a lot of the other characters i've mentioned, it's more stating the fact that both his wealth and skin colour give him that advantage, which I also think adds to the "Bat and the Cat" relationship as it gives Bruce an even deeper look into the suffering of people in Gotham through Catwoman telling him of her experiences. When the idea of systemic racism is explored in modern media today it, more often than not, comes off as a cheap grab for approval from the viewers (which unfortunately works most of the time) and isn't done in a way that makes sense in the context of the story, it'smore just thrown in there. However in "The Batman" it really makes sense when looking at the world of Gotham as a whole, even across comics. I feel the city of Gotham is depicted quite literally perfectly in this movie and is the most comic/game accurate representation of ANY of the live action films we've seen so far and is definitely the most believable with mafia-like crime bosses running the city from the background.
While a lot of this is just me drawing my own meaning from the new casting of catwoman, I hope i'm onto something. And if i am onto something, I REALLY hope it gets explored further in the next movie, and other adaptations and depictions.
Respect the opinion Jay but I think that The new Batman movie is Really good but I’m gonna be a Christopher Nolan fanboy and say it’s no where close to being as good as The Dark knight as a Batman movie
Mixed isn’t offensive lmaoo🤣🤣🤣Everyone says that
Never saw the appeal to this Catwoman tbh 🤷 but hey I never really cared for Catwoman to begin with
Cat women is bad in this movie
Why?
I was just triging people it was a joke