5 Best and Worst Batman Stories (According to CBR)
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- Batman is one of the most iconic comic book characters of all time. It stands to reason that with that level of popularity, he's going to get his share of both great and terrible stories. CBR has compiled the list of the five best Batman comics and five worst Batman comics. I wanted to take a look through the list and see what my opinions were on the entries, offering feedback as a fan of the character. #Batman #comics #worstbatmanstories
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probably a good idea for the future to link the article in the description.
Forgot to and updated thanks
The Long Halloween is such a masterpiece of a Batman comic. It's the definition of Batman being the World's Greatest Detective.
One of the few graphic novels that I would insist on fans buying a physical edition because of how well it is written and drawn.
Really like this vid
Maybe in the future you could do your own best and worst Batman stories list and maybe expand into other dc characters like superman, Wonder Woman and possibly team stories like justice league and the legion of super heroes.
Thank you! I'd love to go through stories and do that!
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Bane has always been a genius in the simplicity of his ideas. “How to beat Batman?” Make him tired. “How to find out who he is?” Look at his jawline. so The way Tom kings story reads is that’s dc interfered and the fact that it got shortened doesn’t help banes plan is to contrived. “How to break Batman?” Give him happiness and then tear it away I think if bane was just responsible for giving Batman happiness and that Batman lost it all on his own. The idea being “How to break Batman?” Give him happiness. it’d be more impactful saying that Batman can’t have happiness that everything around him he touches dies. but at the end Batman beats bane proving bane wrong finding happiness
Pretty much in my opinion Bane is a coward just like the other Batman villains.
ForJustice1324 are talking about the same characters? Lol
Bane: Wait a minute, Bruce Wayne has all the resources to be Batman. But the only way to know if he's Batman is if I see his Jawline and compare it to Batman's Jawline
@@ForJustice-bl6rs If he is a coward he could've fouled me with the way he runs right at me (Arkham Asylum, also side mission cutscene in Arkham City) (Can't say anything about Orgibs because unfortunately I don't have a way to play it and from what I hear he actually is smart so forces Batman to hide)
Yes, the movie did Red Hood a lot better, the final confrontation is much better in the movie
I still remember when Batman said and I quote “I’m The God Damn Batman!”
B1ack Spid3r I think All-Star Batman and Robin wanted to make Batman an asshole but then transform him into the Batman we know by getting to know robin
@@hailpickens2454 Batman wanted to put some dirt in his eyes
@@Christian-be6eg He missed the part where that's his problem
I think Court of owls and hush is better than under the red hood
Phantom 314 under the red hood is more well known, which is why i feel like under the red hood is “best”
At least Under the Red Hood didn't have crossovers in titles that barely had anything to do with Batman (like Birds of Prey). That was an element that detracted from both Court of Owls and Death of the Family for me.
I really like court of owls. I cant stand death of a family its just drags like hell
Why do people like Hush?
Sean Miller I guess since Tomas Eliot is so similar to Bruce it shows how easily he could’ve gone down the same path
I don't hate CBR but I feel like they go for low-hanging fruit with a lot of these lists. It's always like the general consensus of what you hear a lot of people say and they never have anything to say that you haven't heard.
Dark Knight Strikes Again is bad, yeah, but it's not like it's an abortion of comics. It's just boring and sort of lost focus. Too much crammed together and not necessary. Master Race is awesome and people hate on Miller too much now.
I could never get through DKSA honestly but I know there are those who enjoy it.
Yeah it's not good at all. I think it's a little hard to argue it's the worst ever unless you've only read a few select Batman works, but it's certainly not good. Convoluted and bad characterizations.
@Christopher Marlowe This is probably the best description I've seen of his work in a long time.
I just hate the artwork so much.
They hate him because he's a piece of shit. The Dark Knight Strikes Again is horrible though, the writing in it is your classic crazy Miller. Like, if you read the dialogues, Batman speaks very similarly to the way he does in All Star.
While it's not necessarily a Batman story, I think The Killing Joke deserves at least an honourable mention in the same category as Dark Knight Returns and Under The Red Hood.
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I adore court of owls, the idea of there being some secret organisation controlling Gotham from the side is amazing.
Jay: "I am not a hater of the CBR articles"
Me: All right then, keep your secrets!
The Under The Red Hood author even said that he preferred the movie or at least the ending I believe.
The long Halloween is the best Batman comic run, change my mind.
What about the Court of owls event
Might be Top 5 for me
Personally would have hush in top 5 best but that might be cuz it was one of the first batman stand alone comics I read, long Halloween would also be up there for me
CBR sucks dark knights metal and knightfall are good but in the top 5??also under the red hood movie is good but the comic isn't..
No the story itself is good the problem is it's too connected to the main DC Universe and the way Jason came back with the Superboy punching reality crap was not necessary
@@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 that's exactly the point. I feel like the movie is much better.
@@RadinV1 it basically keeps things grounded in the Batman Mythos plus it cut out and coming back because of Superboy Prime punching reality crap
I’m surprised that hush and killing joke aren’t on this list . Those are the two most talked about and my favorite Batman stories
Yeah, it's too bad that The Killing Joke movie sucks.
@@lisagaughan7154 I think there’s some edit somewhere that made it a pretty good audiobook which is okay I guess
No Killing Joke, No Year One, No Hush, man their list missed the mark.
I’m starting to really get into BAtman and I’m wondering if you can recommend any comics for someone just gettin into it
The Pack Thabks so much. I’ve been wanting to get into some comics but never knew where to start. I look forward to reading them
The Pack Ngl dude, I had given up trying to get into Batman comics cause I’d just look at all of them and be like “where tf do I start”. He’s got so many like you said. You’ve just given me the incentive to go buy the comics you said and start reading. Just huge thanks man
The Pack will do. Cheers again man
@The Pack and no man's land my personal fav
A lot of good recommendations here already. I would recommend A Death in the Family as well, as it is crucial in the Batman lore (even if it is a bit silly). One thing I will say is that TDKR shouldn't be your first Batman story, as the character is very different from what he is normally.
Under the red hood is a very important story (could be the most) of Batman in general but I think it’s no great.Its good but not great
movie is way better
Kevin Smith humor fits in a Kevin Smith movie. That's it. It wouldn't even fit in Deadpool. If Kevin Smith wrote Deadpool, he'd make Daniel Way's run on the character appear as another legendary Joe Kelly run.
Kevin seems like he's a cool dude, love how he embraces his inner geek and isn't afraid to make the movie or write the comic he wants to, no matter how absolutely shitty it might turn out to be. But sometimes you just gotta call a turd a turd and his name on a comic book would be one big red flag of a turd for me.
a death in the family is literally the best comic book ever, in my opinion, fight me.
Jim Aparo looks much better inking himself than with Mike DeCarlo inking him.
I never really liked it, but I see its usefulness in the lore
Morrison's run on Batman is the best I've ever read, it's criminally under appreciated, with outsanding new viallians. Dr.Deadalus, weaponising alzheimers and trapping Batman in a web that's impossible to prepare for, Dr.Hurt, targetting Batman's mind, supernatural, sinister, mysterious and intriguing throughout, wildly entertaining and revitalised obscure villains like the mighty Lord Death Man, a rampaging grand theft auto player with all the cheats enabled brought to life, Proffesor Pyg and the Circus of Strange as a foil for Dick Grayson with his circus roots, continuing the symbiotic nature of the relationship between Batman and his foes. Light hearted Dick and badass Damian reversing and revitalising the classic Batman and Robin dynamic, Damian as both Robin and a dark future Batman. International "flavours" of Batman in Batman Inc, zurr en argh, Batman in different time periods, the whole thing was a masterfully crafted puzzle box of a story that kept readers engaged and analysing each issue every month. It is the most compressive multi faceted depiction of the character ever, calling back to all aspects of his past, Batman escapes death every time, which is the core of the character, even from Gods like Darkseid.
Tim = Best Robin
Agreed
Dick=best robin
James Codeline you’re funny
Dick Grayson is the best
@@Shiinamo Dude dick is the best
Imo under the red hood, hush and long Halloween are the top 3
Arkham serious house is by far my favorite! Such good artwork and genius storytelling, which I know I’m going to get hate for but I don’t care to much for the killing joke, it just wasn’t my favorite because it was so hyped and let me down as it could’ve went deeper then what was there
Batman hush should be on the best list
I am not sure what the story arc is called but without a doubt my favourite Batman story was Scott Snyders run on Detective Comics in 2011 with The Grayson Batman
Black mirror, great story and also my favourite Batman story of Snyders
I don’t know if it counts, but I’d put Batman beyond somewhere on such a list
My list (mostly favorites) would be
1. Batman beyond
2. Dark knight returns
3. Year one
4. Knightfall
5. Killing joke
(Under the red hood, long Halloween, and hush being honorables)
Check out Batman #541 page 20:
I remember reading this issue as a kid I loved how the Spectre
grew giant and held batman in his hand he could completely envelope and overpower Batman if he so desired.
Batman is the main hero but he is still helpless and weak against the Spectre. Batman also said "Your power to crush me I respect and even fear"
I liked The Spectre's power also Batman is weak and helpless in his hand in a whim he can crush him and end his future only by using his fingers that are around Batman
He defeated Batman easily and eventually succeeded in his goal in the end.
I disagree with Dark Nights Metal. I thought it was awful.
I think Dark Knight Returns is good, but I don't like the extent of the effect it had on how Batman was written.
Personally, I really like stories like A Lonely Place of Dying and War Games more than some of these "best"
Batman Hush without a doubt
Was the “And I love him for it” part intentional? (Reference to the Dark Knight return Batman and joker confrontation)
I like these videos, you should deffo do more. It's nice to have someone else's opinion.
I’d say some of my favourite batman stories are (all mediums included)
Mask of the phantasm
Gotham by gaslight
Court of owls
Arkham city
The dark knight
Justice league Tower of Babel
I would say red hood film
The dark knight rises
Knight fall
Flashpoint batman miniseries
No man's land
My favourite batman story is hush
I hate All-Star Batman and The Dark Knight Strikes again. They are the worst interpretation of Batman ever conceived. Bruce is an awful, narcissistic person. To me, they don’t exist. I only consider Year One and The Dark Knight Returns cannon.
Didn’t Batman make Dick eat rats in the comics
Where’s my boi Batman: Hush?
Any legends of the dark knight fans in here
Personally i think the killing joke is the best its very common but i love it
This channel is basically a CBR ranting Channel
There's like one CBR video every week or 2 lmao. I can increase that if you want though there's plenty of dumb takes from them.
CPPower10Gamer -Norsk Gaming there’s plenty of other content you’re just not looking for it.
Scott snyder is hella overated in my opinion, i like kings run much better. Saying gotham girl story is worse than allstar batman actually makes my head spin. That makes absolutely no sense, that story is great imo
I'm surprised The Killing Joke isn't on here.
I guess you could call The Bat Who Laughs Iconic...in that he is the personification of everything wrong with DC's Batman obsession due to being one of the biggest Gary Stu villains ever written.
Under the red hood movie is a lot better than the book.
My 5 best books are;
5 The killing Joke
4 Arkham Asylum
3 Black Mirror
2 Long Halloween
1 Year one
For me top 5 best are:
5. Batman: Death in the Family
4. Killing Joke
3. Batman Hush
2. Death of the Family
And my fav is Court of Owls
Jay, whats your opinion on batman year 100? Personally one of my favorite batman stories.
DKR was a bastardized asshole Elseworlds Batman so I find it fascinating is that Strikes Again and All Star Batman and Robin are trashed for being bastardized asshole Elseworlds Batman books.
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Probably half the problem is that Batman has been done to death, so you can’t deviate too far from the general consensus without sounding like a contrarian.
The best part of Dark Knight Strikes Again was Plastic Man looking at Elongated Man and saying "You're not even funny." Also, there was almost 20 years between The Dark Knight Returns and the Batman TV series. The Denny O'Neil/Neal Adams Batman had already distanced the comics character from that. I'm not that big a fan of Knightfall because, for me, it was kind of the same story as Batman 400, where Batman's enemies had all been released from Arkham. Finally, I was starting to enjoy All-Star Batman and Robin by the time it got to Black Canary and Batgirl.
Top 5 Batman Stories:
1. Batman Year One
2. The Dark Knight Returns
3. The Laughing Fish/Sign of the Joker
4. The Case of the Honest Crook
5. The Giant Gorilla Crime Boss of Gotham City
Bottom 5 Batman Stories:
1. Conspiracy (Another Doug Moench "Look what books I'm reading" story and a waste of J.H. Williams' art.)
2. The Dark Knight Strikes Again
3. The Mud Pack (Ignores that Basil Karlo had been killed off years earlier and never explains why Looker doesn't look like plain Emily.)
4. Invitation to a Murder (David V. Reed's first Batman story, which can't be bothered to explain how the invitations end up on Gordon's desk.)
5. The first two Mike W. Barr/Alan Davis Detective Comics issues, where Joker brainwashes Catwoman into becoming a criminal again.
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Dennis O'Neil is the one who made Batman dark again, not Frank Miller.
tom king had a few quality stories but Snyders work is just top tier
We can all agree that Batman and batgirl having a little too much fun was the worst thing that happened in the batman universe
Rebirth deserved a place on the best list.
Arkham Knight perfected the under the red hood story
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Batman venom is hands down my favorite Batman ark
Everybody knows the best Batman story is Batman and robin
You mean the one written by Grant Morrison
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Where is Hush?
It’s a shame Killing Joke didn’t make it on the list. It gave us an origin story for the Joker, tho it may not be 100% canon, and it gave the iconic Joker line of everything changing due to “One Bad Day.” Not to mention the story bringing us Oracle and the amazing open ending. (that sadly got written out of canon because Batman never kills)
Under the Red Hood is most definitely not better than Hush, Court of Owls, Killing Joke, or even Year One in my opinion. Under the Red Hood is important but the title of the article is best. I like Under the Red Hood but it gets really confusing especially if you don’t have much knowledge of DC outside of Batman. I think Under the Red Hood is one of those rare cases where the movie’s better.
In regards to the Frank Miller vs Tom King thing, it’s like Spider-Man 3 vs The Amazing Spider-Man 1. I think TAS is ok at best, Spider-Man 3 is really not a well made movie on any level. Now I’ve watched Spider-Man 3 way more because it’s a lot more entertaining, but I wouldn’t say that makes it a a better movie.
Scot is ok at batman stories
Arkham games and killing joke best, and the old Batman Red Robin books worst
This is such a by the numbers list that you see on every other website that's ever done this.
Cacophony isn't really that bad, at least not as bad as Widening Gyre, but at least it's a fun read.
I'm sorry but I can't defend All Star Batman and Robin. Characterization aside, the writing is just abhorrent. I'm pretty sure Miller wrote that script out of spite. The only moment I enjoyed out of that book was that savage moment with Green Lantern where he had everything painted yellow and then offered him lemonade lol other than that, I'm sorry but the book is just bad. Every character is unlikable, Batman isn't just a "douche" he's an unhinged and hateful psychopath that is not a hero in the slightest. I really don't see how he went from how he was in Year One, to such a completely different person, then to someone we're supposed to root for returning in TDKR. But, that that being said, I don't think the book was meant to be taken seriously. Like I said I'm pretty sure he wrote that book out of spite for something.
There are a lot of lesser known gems that deserve their place on a list somewhere. As well as some bonafide stinkers that deserve their time in the lime light.
Rick J-420 I love All Star Batman and Robin, it was bad, but I liked it, it was stupid and hilarious to me, it could’ve been good if they toned down Bruce’s doucheyness and made him more like the Jekyll and Hyde in Dark Knight Returns, having Bruce be suppressed and less human when he acts as Batman, his humanity only stopping him from killing, have Bruce still be the father figure he is in usual canon, it’s a topic that I can’t express in text
@@elderrusty541 I may have to give it another read some time soon. It's been a while I may be able to find appreciation in the ridiculousness of it all by now.
I'm new to comics but I have read Court of Owls in New 52 so far and it was really amazing
I would consider the Killing Joke more a Joker story than a Batman story...
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Good job and keep up with the good work
I like the list videos a lot
Honestly, I love how you brought it up at the end, and in terms of Batman events/stories, The Killing Joke ABSOLUTELY should’ve been on this list. It not only is a notable Batman event, but also one of the biggest character pieces when talking about The Joker.
My top 5 best Batman Stories list based on the public impact:
1. The Dark Knight Returns
2. The Killing Joke
3. Under The Red Hood
4. The Long Halloween
5. Knightfall
Honorable Mention: New 52 (Scott Snyder)
hopefully when you say killing joke, you are talking about the comics, cause it would be a killing joke to me if you were talking about the movie
I'm surprised The Killing Joke isn't on here.
I loved Cacophony. Not a huge Smith fan tho.
For me Dark Knight returns is great but very overrated it should have stayed only that story and not make a whole continuity
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Good job
Tom king just doesn’t know how to write. End of story. And shouldn’t be let anywhere near Bane in particular. He just gets the character wrong at every level.
He does know how to write, but his style of character study in a very realistic and/or vulnerable way doesn't work for every character, or isn't what people want for certain characters.
I think he would've worked better for a purely detective style Batman miniseries, Superman, Booster Gold, Plastic Man, Red Hood, John Stewart GL, Sinestro, Cassandra Cain, Cyborg, Lex Luthor, Mister Freeze, Deadshot, Harley Quinn, Big Barda, etc. I don't think his style works with how characters like Batman and The Flash are perceived.
All I’m saying is going from new 52 joker who systematically tore apart the bat family’s trust, and tricked Batman into thinking he’s immortal to joker who picks bitchy fights with the riddler and gets annoyed he wasn’t invited to a wedding.... you can tell theres a serious quality drop. I think it’s just the tone. It doesn’t sit well with me. Also.... I didn’t need to see Bruce and the gang hanging around a Batman themed fast food restaurant. I dunno it seems like Tom is making these comics for much younger people.
@@JohnDoe-hk5ec Actually that sounds like the Joker lol. Sometimes he's just fucking around, and is very much willing to kill for any slight, on a whim.
As for the restaurant thing, it's really a meta kind of levity. Like I said, because of how people view Batman now (super serious 99.9% of the time), his style is not the best for that character. If it was Superman, Jason Todd, Booster Gold or Animal Man, you don't bring it up as an example of "bad writing". It wasn't, but it did clash with our perceptions of Batman in a distracting way.
Blame the editors for putting him on Batman and Wally West, rather than characters actually suited for his style. It's really these editors fucking up Marvel and DC.
blackmanwithcomputer fair enough!
I love red hood he my favorite Batman character and I love Deathstroke
2:43 that art work is atrocious.
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I disagree with about everything on the DKR one. One I don’t think it’s that good, damn I actually don’t think it’s good at all personally, here go fascist Batman. But it’s not even responsible for bringing back Batman out of the camp era, he had been out of it for years when Miller wrote it, with between the 60’s Batman we got all the Ra’s Al Ghul original story, the Joker five way revenge, etc, all that Miller really did with it its make people realize there was more to Batman and make him more popular again because that was the collective image we had of the 60’s show. But the comic he had not been like that for decades by this point.
Denis O’Neil deserve more recognition for bringing back Batman as a serious super hero, and not give the credit to Miller
O'Neils Batman started him down that road but still had a foot in the camp door. Miller and even Moore's versions of Batman really didn't at that time with DKR and Killing Joke. Also the fascism argument is overdone. Every superhero is a fascist if you really want to define them that 2 dimensional way, since they all use violence to fight opposition. Doesn't make sense to just throw that at the Miller Batman only. He even pokes fun at the argument in the book because it's just that: laughable.
@Christopher Marlowe wow, you're garbage, considering that she actually made points that could be valid, AND you say that you won't listen to a woman's opinions on Batman. Why? It's childish behaviour that you should have grown out of. Unless you're actually a child, then you need to learn better.
"Why do you think I put a bullseye on my chest?" alone was thumb's-up from me as far as the writing on Dark Knight Returns goes. Plus, if Batman is a vigilante, I prefer operating with police sanction.
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I NEVER LIKED KNIGHTFALL. OR NO MAN's LAND. LET ME SAY IT AGAIN. I NEVER LIKED KNIGHTFALL. OR NO MAN's LAND. Why should I care about a story if it iliterally more than 12 issues?
Reading bores you? Too many words?
@@VonWenk no. I own 55 hardcovers and 245 trade paperbacks. 51 trades are Batman in my collection. I just don't like sprawling epics. I adore Hush tho.
@@CartoonManWhoo At least you didn't shout that part. I thought Hush was good after the first few issues, but I could name quite a few Batman stories I like better (like The Batman Nobody Knows and The Cape-and-Cowl Deathtrap).
@@VonWenk The Batman Nobody Knows is insane for being so short. Classic right there! Also, There's No Hope In Crime Alley, A Vow From the Grave, Night of the Reaper and Killing Joke are also great (these are my fav. 70s stories).
@@CartoonManWhoo If we're talking '70s, my favorite Batman stories are probably Laughing Fish/Sign of the Joker, Daughter of the Demon, The Batman Nobody Knows, The Cape-and-Cowl Deathtrap, and Tomb of the White Bat.
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I haven't read all star batman and robin but batman being that cruel doesn't work for me. Batman's reason for being Batman is to stop other children from suffering like he did and this story is trying to tell me that he made a kid eat rats. Batman without empathy doesn't feel like Batman, it feels like someone did a zach snyder and hurt the story by trying to make it overly edgy and dark
Dear Gods man. You ramble more than me. This really could have been shorter and more watchable.
My favorite batman storylines: under the red hood, the dark knight returns, dark knights metal: the batman who laughs, and batman arkhamverse. I specified the batman who laughs because it does what rocksteady tries to do in Arkham knight perfectly. And it shows the consequences of what would’ve happened if batman lost that mental fight. This is IMO.
bruh the art in The Dark Knight Strikes Again is straight shit.
I've always felt _The Dark Knight Returns_ is overrated, though I read it thirteen years after its release, so it could probably never live upto its legendary status. _Year One_ is far superior to me.
Meanwhile, _All-Star_ is truly _that_ bad. Looking back now you can laugh at it, but back in the day I despised it as soon as Batman slapped Dick across the face.
Finally, the main problem with _Under the Hood_ ? The fact it exists. More often than not, I'm against iconic deaths being undone, and for decades the phrase was, "Everyone in comics except Jason Todd and Bucky returns". Jason's death particularly was a pivotal moment in Batman's mythology, and I can't help but have a bad taste in my mouth about his resurrection (not to mention Bucky's).
Personally I would say that Dark Knight Strikes Again belongs in the worst because it’s three things for me: Bad writing, bad characterization, and bad art that’s why I would agree that it would in a list of worst Batman stories. And side note I’m kinda mad that The Court of Owls didn’t appear in this list that storyline is honestly my personal favorite one
You know how else you can humanize Batman without potty humor? *giving him actual fucking emotions*
They really didn’t have Batman Hush 🤦🏻
It’s not that good.
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How? The mystery is predictable and Hush as a character isn’t even that fleshed out or compelling. Heart of Hush was the comic that actually gave him a good backstory.
Characters like Poison Ivy and Huntress aren’t characterized super well, and Harold Alnut was brought back after years of absence just to be unceremoniously killed off.
It’s not a bad story by any means, but to me it’s not one of Batman’s best.
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He did even more than I just listed
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