That’s why they are still In buisness sadly the truth cause they are losing money just please TK step aside totally you can’t be best friends with your help trust me I’ve experienced it
@@PaxBisonica89 Tony has a good relationship with his dad. Smart son. Especially if your dad is a billionaire. I recommend you love such a father to death
Do people actually listen to Dave's shows or do they just read what people claim he says on Twitter? Dave has been really critical of aew since spring 2022. Multiple people have accused him of being "doom and gloom" over the past year
@@jeremiahmorin1867"really critical". No. No he hasn't. I literally just watched a video of him trying to defend AEW constantly fuckin up going over the time slot with the dumbest excuse he could pull out his ass.
Self inflicted wounds that are now hurting. Tony Khan handed the company over to a bunch of marks who instead of doing what's best for the company, preferred to settle personal agendas and blackball everybody who questioned their intentions. Also the owner keeps on over promising and under delivering on his announcements so he lost all of the goodwill with the fans and it's become normal to pick on him due to his constant meltdowns
The wrestlers don't need to be writing their own stuff , but Tony khan doesn't need to book it either. They need a separate writer that's disconnected from both of them. Let him/her create the magic. Aew last time I watched it reminds me of new Japan which is nothing but long wrestling matches . That works on a ppv. That doesn't work on a weekly tv show. You need more cool storylines and short matches on tv. Put the long drawn out matches on the ppv's
@@jamesmckay4306Shortly after Cody left is when things started going downhill for AEW imo. I think people forget how important Cody was to AEW just because the Bucks and Omega were more over than him before he left but the man was honestly the glue that kept things professional and from falling apart.
I've really loved AEW since day one and consider myself a huge fan. I had never missed a single show until recently I have started to drop off. For me, one reason is the monthly ppv schedule and also the addition of Collision. It just seems too much. It's quantity over quality. I loved the old schedule of Dynamite every Wednesday and the big 4 ppvs. It was perfect for me.
I get that - difficulty is how much revenue you leave on the table if you stick to having less. Balance has to be pretty hard I’d imagine. Tougher to have so many PPVs since the out of pocket is pretty steep but I think based on some estimates I saw from the buys the PPVs have done this year compared to last, based on $49.99 a buy which I know is prob a high estimate, that’s roughly $10M in new revenues. But it’s for sure a big ask to get that much monthly from people. But I also don’t think you have to watch everything either - maybe watch the show you’re used to and sporadically the other stuff if it grabs your eye and if it doesn’t scope a recap maybe. And do similar for a PPV over buying every one. But I’d be amazed for anybody to be able to consume everything that’s put out there.
Same here, I was a really strong supporter when it started and was really drawn to seeing something fresh and new compared to what WWE was giving us around that time. I never missed a single show or ppv but sadly these days I can’t even get through a single episode of dynamite or skip it some weeks, I gave up on rampage altogether and have yet to watch a full episode of collision. WWE is on fire right now including NXT. Tony needs to do something because he’s not doing a good job as a leader and is letting the talent run the show.
TNA on spike was a spectacular wrestling program. I don't think they get enough credit. It was a lot better written and produced than aew. Familiar current names mjf , Darby Allen would have been gigantic stars there.
2021 was the best chance for AEW to really show what they can do. They signed a lot of talent and managed to get CM Punk back into wrestling. All they had to do was keep that momentum going. Yet, here we are at the end of 2023 and it feels like they've taken a few steps back. Let's see what 2024 has to offer, but AEW needs to really look in the mirror and figure out what they want to be.
It is fascinating seeing AEW turn into a WWE-lite: Too many long, drawn-out, shows, storylines with only a week or two worth of build, hotshot booking of older talent, and a Main Event World Champion who is booked with the ultimate babyface comeback victories (a la John Cena). I want them to do well, I really do, WWE being the only major televised product is very bad for the medium of professional wrestling. AEW need to step up their game if they want to be considered a valid alternative however. God forbid I consider watching Impact or NWA.
I started watching Impact during the early days of the pandemic and haven't stopped. Impact is honestly pretty good week to week. It's the easier to watch for only $5 on TH-cam. There's comedy but also old school territory style attempted murder on on TV. People just wanna meme on it bc "lol TNA".
It's very clear you haven't watched WWE in a long time, because none of those things are happening and it's been like that for almost two years. And why talk shit about impact? Impact is easily one of the most consistently well booked promotions around.
I’m still a huge AEW fans and it’s what got me back into wrestling, but it does have problems that need to be acknowledged and not just turned into a skit on BTE. I think one big problem that hurt them was they catered too hard to the IWC fans. They need to find a balance to bring in the casual fans in and make them happy too
No, they need to stick to what they said in the very beginning being alternative and trim down the roster and make their pay-per-views feel special. Make their television spill feel special at this point. I can't tell dynamite from Rampage to collision. Do something different make their sets different instead of the LEDs. And part of the problem is pundits like Jim Cornette talking s*** about them. Every chance he gets I think they need to make some changes slowly and drastically stop holding on to talent that are disgruntled and want to go online to voice their opinions
@@Mymommasaid811 Really do that's all of what you took. From what I just said that's the problem right there you only focused on one thing that I brought up. I didn't just say Jim Cornette!! But Jim is a problem for them. He's been a problem for him ever since they've existed. Dude's got nothing but s*** to say to them. Somebody like that tends to hurt your product. I don't care what you say
You could really sense the pain in Dave’s voice when talking about AEW struggling to regain its momentum but that didn’t stop him from also making subtle jabs at NXT for falling back down and not beating AEW.
Dave ends of coming across like he can’t criticize AEW without taking shots at WWE. Keep in mind that NXT is a developmental program. NXT shouldn’t be anywhere close to AEW in the ratings.
I'd be mad too if I got rid of my biggest draw for the young bucks, then looked at the audience of plastic seats and realised i killed my company through my own incompetence....
I don't understand how the recent Continental classic was bad. You had some great matches. Well I really think is bad is really necessarily building up storylines and that's pretty much it. I mean think about it they had the house of black and they can do so much with them like having them being like the AW version of a Wyatt family and putting in some storylines and yet no really necessarily see them. That's what I think the product is I really think we should focus on what's bad instead of just saying that it's bad.
@waterhose8467 the overall product is still bad. Collision is essentially a show filled with dros and dumb Tony Khan fetishes of seeing guys in masks in styles clash matches, where they botch every single spot involved playing out in half empty arena. Then you get to the main event and more often than not its good. This was TNA back in the day. Where the entire show is crap and bullshit that vince Russo booked then in the middle of it you'd get a great x division match. Dude, I'm not sitting through a bad show just to watch long tournament matches that are admittedly good, but boring because of predictable outcomes. The sooner AEW fans realise this the better. Dynamite and especially Collision, are on life support now
@@juniorkhomari1850 botches? Are we watching the same show when I checked collision I didn't really see any botches. And the match between Claudio and Brody King wasn't that predictable either as a matter of fact I thought that Claudia was going to win that match. In this match too seems to be pushing the right people so it's a step in the right direction. I think the issue with collision is that it doesn't have one story of his own that's disconnected from dynamite but it's also don't have a identity compared to SmackDown or raw.
@@juniorkhomari1850 in the whole thing with it being on life support is still has decent number of people watching it it's just that it's not as high as it was last year. I don't know man All of this negativity just seem like you just want a company to die. When if you think about it WWE has not been that good for a long long time it's been years to a point of where it gotten good now. And I know that deals with the whole Vince McMahon issue but still in terms of the characters and wrestlers it was practically the simular of issue that AW is suffering now. They still got a roster full of talent and they still got the resources to hop back and make a good show.
@@Cenzo1130that’s bs. Max and Punk were the only ones getting over a million viewers for the past two years up to this past summer. After May/June their viewers overall started declining
@@Cenzo1130 then why is there a perception that aew is suffering without cm punk being there? Rating besides, they are being paid from a TV deal with warner Discovery and they draw from their ppv's and live gate . Cm punk definitely boosted that income from the average
It doesn't help they have the world's thinnest skin over there. You've got talent that will openly argue with fans on twitter, how low rent is that? If that happened in any other company leadership would be like "knock it off!"
When I think AEW talent on Twitter, I think of John Silver calling people who criticize the product "f*cking losers." Yeah, that John Silver of the Dark Order, who thinks sodomy comedy is peak comedy. How does a jobber still a have a job after doing all that, while also doing nothing at the same time.
I am rooting for AEW, I’ve been around since day 1 but the product has really fallen off in my opinion. People like the Young Bucks, that were exciting at the start, seem to put on the same match over and over again and they can’t seem to put together compelling matches. The tournament is fun but it isn’t compelling. It’s just random matches with no real reason to be heavily invested. They aren’t weaving in storylines very well like the big Japanese promotions.
that's what I don't understand about the young bucks. when they first aired AEW on TNT and since then, they kept doing the same thing over and over again.
The thing is if everyone goes out trying to have a compelling match, no one has a compelling match. Everyone in AEW tries to wrestle like they're all in the main event when some matches should not be very competitive. The stars need to be presented as dominant so when they eventually lose it means something towards the winner's momentum. Otherwise it's great athleticism that we all forget by next month.
@@Rocket1377he obviously was lol. You sound legitimately crazy after the re debut on WWE, where he immediately looked like the biggest star in THAT company. The stooges in AEW might have tried really hard to middle him and take the shine off out of some petty childish bs, but it's clear hes still a massive star.
@@johnnysupreme5718I don't think anyone is cheering for AEW's demise. They're just confirming what people have been saying all along that AEW apologists like Dave and Bryan have been ignoring this entire time. Say what you will about Jim but dude saw this coming from miles and miles away, and he was labeled toxic by hardcores who seem so inseparable from this indie mindset they've cultivated. AEW will fail. As a fan it pains me to admit this but they will. Because they keep reinforcing the same bad things over and over again
@@juniorkhomari1850 Jim being right that AEW is falling apart doesn't mean he's not being toxic about the situation. He's clearly cheering on their demise and has developed a personal vendetta against the company and everyone in it that is wholly independent on his objective opinion on the company's chances of success.
Honestly with all the near misses they've had (matt hardy concussion, mox nearly breaking his neck) they should be closed down for incompetent health and safety.
Tony is too busy booking matches he always wanted to see rather than hire someone who can book a good show. I love AEW but there is a lot that can be fixed if tony wasn't booking the shows. matches for the sake of matches and no story is just boring.
These two guys had a complete agenda to shout down anyone who might have even suggested that perhaps AEW wasn't on an upward trajectory. Seeing them reluctantly dance around the fact that they have had to eat humble pie on this is karma at its finest.
@@RavenGlenn I really enjoyed the Bucks at first but now they are stale. Every match is the same and their character work isn’t good enough to overcome that. They don’t seem to have developed much at all with their in ring work or character work.
The Bucks are the heart & soul of that company but I guess they are burnt out. Looking forward to their ideas after taking a break. Kenny is doing his best ighting age right now, because his style leaves not much room for slowing down. As much as they were perceived as the rising stars when AEW started, people forget that they already were in their 30s and rely heavily on their athleticism style-wise. I miss their influence, too, though. It attracted an atmosphere of creativity and joy when they ran things.
@@DavidRockvoice I’m not hopeful if the rumors are true that they are going to do a “back stage problems” gimmick involving Colt Cabana. The Punk return means that gimmick will look lame.
The AEW locker room is the most sensitive and butt hurt of any in Pro Wrestling. I know Tony makes it worse because he’s a poor leader but still some of these guys need to shut the hell up and just have fun.
I think AEW should just balance the books. Cut the bloated Roster. ReInvest in a Booking/Creative team, and run smaller B Arenas. Renegotiate a network television show for more visibility. And create a 10 episode kid friendly Netflix show to target a child demographic to invest in a future fanbase.
I’d love to know what AEWs revenue is driven by? Attendance is down, toys aren’t selling, videogame was a failure. If they’re making money from their tv deal alone, then that’s not good, all it takes is the network pulling the plug and they’re screwed
I wish it would have just stayed with the originals and kept building the show off of them. I know thats kinda unrealistic, but it was so great in the beginning. Once they started bringing in way too many others, it just started changing the product. In some ways, good, and some ways bad. I liked it when it had fewer shows, fewer ppv's, and fewer titles. I am always going to tune in. I love aew. I just hope they get it back together. Get back to doing more of the big story lines and rivalries that AEW used to do. They used to kill it in that area. Everything goes up and down. They will get it back together.
I preferred just watching one show on Wednesday once a week. That's it. It then resolved itself on to a ppv at the end of each month. Simple stuff like that
Tony’s first mistake was making wrestlers executives. Now he’s making wrestlers control disciplinary actions. It’s sad and embarrassing what AEW has become.
It’s almost like running and booking a wrestling company is hard and not something a person should do who is new to the business and has important roles in two sports franchises at the same time.
I dont know about you guys, but, I take no joy in hearing this. I critiqued AEW because i believe it has flaws not so i could revel in its destruction or see it go out of business. The folks galavanting this like a victory need a reality check.
@@danielcraig4974 You missed the point then. Punk is his own man. Love him or hate him, he's not the kinda dude to blame his issues on the big mean news guys reporting stories about him. Dude walked into an octagon, got his ass beat, and did it again. He owns his problems, regardless of if he created them. In trying to defend him like that, you take away his agency in all of this.
I can't believe Dave forced CM Punk at gunpoint to put a guy backstage into a headlock before attacking his boss. Someone needs to stop Meltzer before it's too late
@@johnnysupreme5718I can believe he reported a bunch of lies about it that couldn't be corrected or corroborated by anyone because literally everyone is under NDA. If you think punk randomly started getting violent, you probably believe in the tooth fairy too.
This is sad..this is not thr Dave Meltzer i met 20yrs ago...Dave was different then..because he was on the outside looking in...they boys protected the business from him...and only gave him tidbits of info...now that his buddies and Tony Khan have let him in to the inner circle..Dave will not say anything against AEW...just sad...
TNA had 2 million in 2009 with Vince Russo January 4, 2010 = 2.2 million viewers with 1.5 RATING Against Raw on Monday TNA's numbers on wrestling sites are rating numbers, not viewership numbers. Not like now, all numbers are viewership numbers. The moment Hogan entered Impact for the first time, the number of viewers was 3 million viewers Impact After Bound For Glory 2011 = 2 million viewers TNA 2005 2013 RATINGS = RAW Ratings now
@@jeremiahmorin1867give the bucks, Jericho, Ortiz, Eddie, Andrade, etc a chance. There were plenty of fights before punk came in and there will be more after he left.
Imagine having so much goddamn money you dont care that your son wastes a bazzilion. They should have spent all of that to support homeless or something instead of doing whatever that they are doing
Dave you need to keep in mind that show on Saturday was Erie's first televised wrestling show since 2003 - there were also only 216 tickets left to be sold at that show, it was almost sold out from what AEW had for sale. Erie is an untapped area for televised wrestling, now since AEW came last Saturday, WWE has announced a show for April. Don't take that Erie show into consideration for a "bad crowd". This was AEW reaching a drought region of wrestling to build up their fanbase in an area that hasn't seen a televised wrestling show in 20 YEARS!
Dude they sell less people when they expect less people. If the area didn’t have a show in over a decade for sure people would pack in. I know this cause I went to a packed AEW show recently in an area they’ve never done a dynamite before
I'm sorry guys, but how is this news? OK, there are guys in the company who are upset. fine - do your job, do your best to get over, and if you want out, when your contract expires, move to the E or to somewhere else of your choosing. Why make it a big deal? I'm sure there are people in the E who has negative views sometimes. The only diffrence - and as an AEW dick-rider, it's hard for me to admit - WWE is a lot better with controling and containing their PR and their public image. In AEW, as soon as someone feels something bad, it's all the sudden news and oh-my-god-the-company-colapses. Here's my hot take - stop whinning, deal with the changes, and do your job as best as you can. Oh, and be greatful - if you're working for a big company, making a living, and the company doesn't mistreat you or takes you for granted, you have ZERO reason to complain.
If only Aew had any competent management or leadership in any level. Perhaps the wrestlers wouldn't need to go the last resort of informing fans like you to go and fight for them. Ha.
MJF is better as a heel, the Cole thing is out of gas and the best talent in the company never gets a significant run against MJF. A one and done with Omega on a Saturday night was baffling. Top guys are mired in tag teams or factions (or attached to Jericho) and the NJPW wrestlers are treated with little fanfare. Shibata should be headlining, not tagging with Orange Cassidy in the middle of a show. There are a million belts plus ROH - you could cut the roster in half and book simple, manageable programs with the remaining talent.
They need to pull trigger on prickish heel Cole stabbing MJF in the back and move the title picture on; Max isn't the problem here, and solid title reigns that are uninterrupted are good, but keeping a static title picture without actually seeing it through will kill the product
I don't even think he is. I think he is just so gassed that the bucks acknowledge him and that he has thrown away any credibility he built up over decades just to feel like 'one of the guys'. It's pretty pathetic tbh.
I feel so bad for Dave. He's finally having to report on what has been obvious for some time. I also love how the lie he's been peddling for the last 5 years about AEW preparing for the future while bringing in every over the hill former wwe star doesn't make sense.
Shocking. Punk is gone, toddlers are still throwing tantrums, no one is happy, & no one will still pay to see the bucks, Jericurl kazoo, or Negative charisma Page on PPV or in person. TK is a nepobaby clown. At some point daddy will pull the plug on this, as it continues to lose money.
alot of people from the start were apart of the ALL FRIENDS WRESTLING and they weren't very good.. getting rid QT and kevin is GOOD for AEW.. lose rukus next that mans tracks SUCK. Glad to see they are hiring professional and not just giving handouts anymore.
Yeah hiring QT for the spots he had at all was embarrassing. He was never good! Everyone he trained sucks and needs years of additional work to make anything of themselves!
It might sound like I'm stating the obvious, but wanting to watch wrestling that isn't WWE-style is what compels people to watch wrestling shows that aren't WWE. AEW used to be an alternative; lately they feel like an imitation. Bloodbath deathmatch notwithstanding, Full Gear 2023 felt like any other mid-2010s WWE show.
,, TNA had 2 million in 2009 with Vince Russo January 4, 2010 = 2.2 million viewers with 1.5 RATING Against Raw on Monday TNA's numbers on wrestling sites are rating numbers, not viewership numbers. Not like now, all numbers are viewership numbers. The moment Hogan entered Impact for the first time, the number of viewers was 3 million viewers Impact After Bound For Glory 2011 = 2 million viewers TNA 2005 2013 RATINGS = RAW Ratings now
@oelboy bruh!! I'm so surprised nobody ever mentions that Bryan & Vinny would tear everything TNA did apart & made fun of it. AEW is worse & silence. I lost all respect for these guys for that. They both did it to WCW too. Nothing AEW has done has been close to what WCW achieved
Hey Dave, you know you're culpable right? Your "reporting" is quite literally a major factor in it. May you and all those who react on your words find a beautiful karma receipt.
Here's my theory. I am not a fan of WWE just so my bias is on the table. Hunter has been hitting home runs ever since Vince stepped aside. And this is the best WWE has been doing since AEW started. AEW until very recently did everything better than WWE did, that's no longer true. Right now it only feels like the in ring product is better all the other things WWE is killing them on. And I think that's affecting morale. Do I think WWE can sustain this good run long term? No I think their business structure is actually going to cause them problems down the road. But Short to Medium term into 2024 yeah I think WWE is going to keep doing well.
Hey, you! Stop that rational discussion in the comment section. It's doomsday and tribalism here... And for some reason, still crapping on TNA in 2023. 🤔😂
It’s just really confusing to me how Tony could all of a sudden start dropping the ball so hard with storylines and booking, considering how good they’d been for the first three years. Like, he couldn’t have picked a worse time to lower the quality of the product. The in-ring product is absolutely the best in American television right now, but the storylines are all over the place.
@@ArcanaEric True. There's something different backstage going back almost two years and we can only speculate from the outside. The only characters I feel haven't changed are the BCC (other than the Regal stuff). And I feel like Mox and Danielson have creative input there.
AEW maybe 80% Trash but I'd rather watch that than the boring tame sterile WWE PG product that WWE craps out on a weekly basis. It's more kiddie friendly and PG than the Cena PG Era. CM Punk or no CM Punk I won't be watching regularly because it Sucks period.
The Wembley PPV was AEW's WM17, since that PPV ended everything is going wrong. Except for PPVs, everything else is ranging from stagnant to fading. Tony Khan has become a laughingstock and the CM Punk fiasco did a lot of damage, and Punks return at SS made Khan look the biggest fool since the days of Russo, George Scott, and Jim Herd. If AEW doesn't recover it is forever proof that a workrate based promotion will never be massive in North America.
B-b-but what about the Bucks? And Kenny? They were supposed to bring in the ratings and crowds with their acrobatics, feats of derring-do and fame from Japan! Don't tell me they didn't deliver, Dave, I beg of you!
Kenny usually does have pretty good ratings but it's time for all of us to admit that the bucks subtracting six figures from the Nielsens every time they appear on tv isn't a good sign for the future and enough to get any other team shelved indefinitely.
If this wasn't funded by a billionaire who can keep funding it even in the red. It would be out of business. He can afford to keep it going regardless of profit and mistakes.
8:00 okay while yes I agree that hotshotting NXT for that one head-to-head night might have led to some lower weeks now, but I don’t think the goal was ever for NXT to overtake Dynamite, it was just meant to stifle them at a vulnerable moment which they have very successfully done I feel. Dynamite has not really recovered strongly since that point 6-7 weeks ago (or whenever it was)
I thought the negativity left with Punk?! I thought we were supposed to give The Bucks their flowers? I thought the problem was gone? What happened? It couldn’t possibly be that Punk was right about working with children?! It couldn’t possibly be that people should have listened when he said, “please be more careful with the things you get from certain sources and just remember we’re human beings”…
They have failed to commit to any characters and get them over big time. Constant starts and stops and a weird decision to put everything on MJF and Cole whom I don't think are really the guys to carry the brand. Put both of them in a photo next to Roman Reigns and Drew Mcintyre.
I don't know why I got sent this. Listening to him is very depressing. He's become a click bait. Time to hit the don't not recommend channel and I like Alvarez
Dave just needs to go heel on Tony Khan. He doesn’t know what he is doing. And doesn’t have the right people making the decisions that need to be made to be a successful company. Bryan is being more honest lately surprisingly 😂
It's not 2019 but their pay per views deliver,got good characters like Toni Storm and Roderick Strong,two good storylines MJF devil and Edge/Christian story,all the negative came from WWE for years under Vince McMahon
the Montreal Canadiens play out of the Bell Centre usually on Saturdays (home games), so I'll assume they couldn't book the saturday night when the Habs are on the road.
How many times in the past have they bashed WWE over poor ratings and tried to poetray them like a stagnant company? But with AEW, they still have to sugar coat their issues...
Dave must be on the AEW payroll. I don’t get why he tries his best to make excuses for AEW! Journalism is supposed to be impartial. I hear what Dave says, he got a lot of experience, but nowadays most of the times I don’t listen or agree with him at all. It’s his opinion. He’s obviously rooting for AEW. So am I, but we have to be realistic. AEW is on its worst moment ever. Something needs to be done. And now that shit with Bryan getting injured again (kayfabe or not, I’m not sure because it was Andrade again 🤔) it’s not good for business. Seems like Bryan running away from the backlash of CM Punk firing 🤷🏻♂️. It’s not looking great. TNA might be the number 2 option coming 2024. Wild thought but it’s always great to have an alternative.
I used to watch AEW regularly, but things shifted when Tony bought ROH. There were suddenly so many more titles and tournaments, and Tony kept continuously bringing in even more ex-WWE guys. There's an oversaturation of older wrestlers, titles, tournaments, and now even shows. How compelling is it when many of your most featured storylines involve middle-aged guys who were much better ten-twenty years ago, it feels like every other wrestler has a belt of some kind, and the rest of the show features cold matches just for the sake of a technically good match?
They debute in Oklahoma at the end of December. No way they are selling out the Pay Com center. I got friends that live there they said they want to go to see Sting and J.R.
Tickets sales have been abysmal since Jeff Jarrett joined, who knew charging over $100 for shitty seats for a collision show the day before a dynamite headlined by Christian/Copeland in the same building would lead to poor sales?
@@BrrrrPlayboi Replace "TK" with "Vince" and it sums up half of the WWE's existence. Wrestling companies have to keep changing and evolving and downturns are the sign that it's time to change again.
@@johnnysupreme5718 No it doesn't. Vince has never nosedived his business the way TK has, not once even in the down periods of WWF/E history. He's never gone from doing 10,000+ seats every week to struggling to get 2,000 people in a building in a span of 2 years- literally not once, not ever, try again.
@@BrrrrPlayboi New Gen era. And comparing seats or any metric like that is pointless because the WWE was already established when Vince took over. It's an ancient business, not a new company just getting out of it's honeymoon phase. Wrestling has been an up and down business forever. That's not a defense of Tony or his shit booking, but it's still just how it is.
Anyone who genuinely bought into the idea that Punk was the only source of issues in that company were fooling themselves.
What did Punk say about the locker room when he signed for AEW? You can google it in 10 seconds.
Good point.
The only reason aew is still around to tony khan money and stubbornness
And you know because?
@@man3033sa1 maybe because of the video we’re commenting on rn? 😂
@@UFCWWE69 😂
It's all comes down to Tony's lack of leadership.
you can't have a boss who is a p*$$y.
Bingo.
you tell em Jan!!
Tony khan doesn't need to book it either.
This is the truth. He doesn't know what he's doing.
Tony khan - " i am not here to make money, i am here to make friends"
Correction, “Here to buy friends.”
He does have a lot of money
That’s why they are still In buisness sadly the truth cause they are losing money just please TK step aside totally you can’t be best friends with your help trust me I’ve experienced it
@@kev30631*his dad*
@@PaxBisonica89 Tony has a good relationship with his dad. Smart son. Especially if your dad is a billionaire. I recommend you love such a father to death
More and more Dave sounds like a guy having to admit to his wife that she was right.
.......After she cheated on him.
Do people actually listen to Dave's shows or do they just read what people claim he says on Twitter? Dave has been really critical of aew since spring 2022. Multiple people have accused him of being "doom and gloom" over the past year
@@jeremiahmorin1867"really critical". No. No he hasn't.
I literally just watched a video of him trying to defend AEW constantly fuckin up going over the time slot with the dumbest excuse he could pull out his ass.
Dave has a wife? Man, there really is someone for everyone.
But he's playing this wishy-washy game well. Business is good. No business is not good but it's not as bad as people says?! 🤣🤣🤣it's horrible.
I feared for my life listening to this
Self inflicted wounds that are now hurting. Tony Khan handed the company over to a bunch of marks who instead of doing what's best for the company, preferred to settle personal agendas and blackball everybody who questioned their intentions. Also the owner keeps on over promising and under delivering on his announcements so he lost all of the goodwill with the fans and it's become normal to pick on him due to his constant meltdowns
The wrestlers don't need to be writing their own stuff , but Tony khan doesn't need to book it either. They need a separate writer that's disconnected from both of them. Let him/her create the magic.
Aew last time I watched it reminds me of new Japan which is nothing but long wrestling matches . That works on a ppv. That doesn't work on a weekly tv show.
You need more cool storylines and short matches on tv. Put the long drawn out matches on the ppv's
“ Tony’s not here to make money. He’s here to make friends. “
good one 😂
To be admired by your wrestling idol's is a marks dream.
To fleece such a mark is a wrestlers dream.
But I thought when Punk left the negativity would be gone.
😂😂😂
They don’t have Punk to leak negative stories to Dave about anymore.
😅😅😅
Now Brit baker is unhappy and Jeff hardy is too cause he wants to put young talent over and give them advice didn’t we hear this before somewhere
@@thomasfranco3128 What's Jeff going to teach them, what to say to the cops when you get arrested for drunk driving?
Tony needs to sit everyone down and tell anyone who wants to leave to GTFO. I'd bench anyone who stays and complains.
Tony needs to grow a pair and stop trying to be one of the boys and instead be the boss.
@@danielcraig4974 facts
Tony Khan needs to stop Booking the shows and ppvs period.
@@kingslayer2999Stop booking the PPV’s for what? Those are doin well, and almost always great.
Shahid might take Tiny Tony up on that offer
He has to be getting tired of funding Tonys profitless passion project. lol
The sadness in Dave's voice🤣
he can't blame CM Punk anymore
Punk uh , he took all the uh, uh, you know it’s like, an uh funeral around there. Yeah Punk did that.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@regulardadhere8832 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@ads2686 oh HE'LL FIND A WAY 🤣
I love that Dave and Bryan can’t blame punk and now they’re struggling to find a person to point the finger at now
Its fuckin beautiful
TONY. KHAN.
If anything Punk’s behaviour can easily be pointed to as the start of the company having issues.
@@jamesmckay4306 yeah and I’m Santa Claus 😭😭😭
@@jamesmckay4306Shortly after Cody left is when things started going downhill for AEW imo. I think people forget how important Cody was to AEW just because the Bucks and Omega were more over than him before he left but the man was honestly the glue that kept things professional and from falling apart.
I've really loved AEW since day one and consider myself a huge fan. I had never missed a single show until recently I have started to drop off. For me, one reason is the monthly ppv schedule and also the addition of Collision. It just seems too much. It's quantity over quality. I loved the old schedule of Dynamite every Wednesday and the big 4 ppvs. It was perfect for me.
Yea me too it felt more special but i do get why they did it tho
I agree. I still tune into everything, however I liked it more when there was less.
I get that - difficulty is how much revenue you leave on the table if you stick to having less. Balance has to be pretty hard I’d imagine. Tougher to have so many PPVs since the out of pocket is pretty steep but I think based on some estimates I saw from the buys the PPVs have done this year compared to last, based on $49.99 a buy which I know is prob a high estimate, that’s roughly $10M in new revenues. But it’s for sure a big ask to get that much monthly from people. But I also don’t think you have to watch everything either - maybe watch the show you’re used to and sporadically the other stuff if it grabs your eye and if it doesn’t scope a recap maybe. And do similar for a PPV over buying every one. But I’d be amazed for anybody to be able to consume everything that’s put out there.
Same here, I was a really strong supporter when it started and was really drawn to seeing something fresh and new compared to what WWE was giving us around that time. I never missed a single show or ppv but sadly these days I can’t even get through a single episode of dynamite or skip it some weeks, I gave up on rampage altogether and have yet to watch a full episode of collision. WWE is on fire right now including NXT. Tony needs to do something because he’s not doing a good job as a leader and is letting the talent run the show.
TNA on spike was a spectacular wrestling program. I don't think they get enough credit.
It was a lot better written and produced than aew. Familiar current names mjf , Darby Allen would have been gigantic stars there.
2021 was the best chance for AEW to really show what they can do. They signed a lot of talent and managed to get CM Punk back into wrestling. All they had to do was keep that momentum going. Yet, here we are at the end of 2023 and it feels like they've taken a few steps back. Let's see what 2024 has to offer, but AEW needs to really look in the mirror and figure out what they want to be.
They desperately need a shakeup, creatively.
@@blakemeads9225which seems like what they’re doing, which means we get the doom and gloom reports from wrestling media
It is fascinating seeing AEW turn into a WWE-lite: Too many long, drawn-out, shows, storylines with only a week or two worth of build, hotshot booking of older talent, and a Main Event World Champion who is booked with the ultimate babyface comeback victories (a la John Cena). I want them to do well, I really do, WWE being the only major televised product is very bad for the medium of professional wrestling. AEW need to step up their game if they want to be considered a valid alternative however. God forbid I consider watching Impact or NWA.
I started watching Impact during the early days of the pandemic and haven't stopped. Impact is honestly pretty good week to week. It's the easier to watch for only $5 on TH-cam. There's comedy but also old school territory style attempted murder on on TV. People just wanna meme on it bc "lol TNA".
If you watched TNA from early on you saw this exact thing happen before. Like exactly
Support independent wrestling in your area!
It's very clear you haven't watched WWE in a long time, because none of those things are happening and it's been like that for almost two years.
And why talk shit about impact? Impact is easily one of the most consistently well booked promotions around.
@@PaxBisonica89 I agree with you, IMPACT has had years of actually good booking.
I’m still a huge AEW fans and it’s what got me back into wrestling, but it does have problems that need to be acknowledged and not just turned into a skit on BTE. I think one big problem that hurt them was they catered too hard to the IWC fans. They need to find a balance to bring in the casual fans in and make them happy too
No, they need to stick to what they said in the very beginning being alternative and trim down the roster and make their pay-per-views feel special. Make their television spill feel special at this point. I can't tell dynamite from Rampage to collision. Do something different make their sets different instead of the LEDs. And part of the problem is pundits like Jim Cornette talking s*** about them. Every chance he gets I think they need to make some changes slowly and drastically stop holding on to talent that are disgruntled and want to go online to voice their opinions
@@flyguy7825hehe I see Jim lives rent free in your head. On the list of problems aew has, a cranky old man giving his opinion doesn't compare.
@@flyguy7825a critic sh*tting on them is no excuse, there are countless bands, movies, etc that a critic despised and were still highly successful.
@@flyguy7825 the slow clapping gate keeping weirdo beta male aew fans are a big part of the problem 🤣
@@Mymommasaid811 Really do that's all of what you took. From what I just said that's the problem right there you only focused on one thing that I brought up. I didn't just say Jim Cornette!! But Jim is a problem for them. He's been a problem for him ever since they've existed. Dude's got nothing but s*** to say to them. Somebody like that tends to hurt your product. I don't care what you say
Oh? What happened? I thought they fired the negativity and it was gonna be happy days? Interesting.
Meanwhile in the real world they coddle the most toxic people in the company and fire people the poison doesn't like.
You could really sense the pain in Dave’s voice when talking about AEW struggling to regain its momentum but that didn’t stop him from also making subtle jabs at NXT for falling back down and not beating AEW.
Dave ends of coming across like he can’t criticize AEW without taking shots at WWE. Keep in mind that NXT is a developmental program. NXT shouldn’t be anywhere close to AEW in the ratings.
NXT beats 2/3 AEW shows on television every single week.
I'd be mad too if I got rid of my biggest draw for the young bucks, then looked at the audience of plastic seats and realised i killed my company through my own incompetence....
I want AEW to succeed, but it's amazing with the money, resources, and roster, how astonishingly bad the product is. Hope they can get it together.
I don't understand how the recent Continental classic was bad. You had some great matches. Well I really think is bad is really necessarily building up storylines and that's pretty much it. I mean think about it they had the house of black and they can do so much with them like having them being like the AW version of a Wyatt family and putting in some storylines and yet no really necessarily see them. That's what I think the product is I really think we should focus on what's bad instead of just saying that it's bad.
@waterhose8467 the overall product is still bad. Collision is essentially a show filled with dros and dumb Tony Khan fetishes of seeing guys in masks in styles clash matches, where they botch every single spot involved playing out in half empty arena. Then you get to the main event and more often than not its good. This was TNA back in the day. Where the entire show is crap and bullshit that vince Russo booked then in the middle of it you'd get a great x division match. Dude, I'm not sitting through a bad show just to watch long tournament matches that are admittedly good, but boring because of predictable outcomes. The sooner AEW fans realise this the better. Dynamite and especially Collision, are on life support now
@@juniorkhomari1850 botches? Are we watching the same show when I checked collision I didn't really see any botches. And the match between Claudio and Brody King wasn't that predictable either as a matter of fact I thought that Claudia was going to win that match. In this match too seems to be pushing the right people so it's a step in the right direction.
I think the issue with collision is that it doesn't have one story of his own that's disconnected from dynamite but it's also don't have a identity compared to SmackDown or raw.
@@juniorkhomari1850 in the whole thing with it being on life support is still has decent number of people watching it it's just that it's not as high as it was last year.
I don't know man All of this negativity just seem like you just want a company to die. When if you think about it WWE has not been that good for a long long time it's been years to a point of where it gotten good now. And I know that deals with the whole Vince McMahon issue but still in terms of the characters and wrestlers it was practically the simular of issue that AW is suffering now. They still got a roster full of talent and they still got the resources to hop back and make a good show.
The product literally isn't bad at all .
Funny, I thought Punk was the reason AEW was so toxic
Cm punk was the reason people were watching it
@@kev30631not based off aews ratings. You know there’s numbers that show punk didn’t raise viewership except for when he first debuted.
@@Cenzo1130that’s bs. Max and Punk were the only ones getting over a million viewers for the past two years up to this past summer. After May/June their viewers overall started declining
@@Cenzo1130 then why is there a perception that aew is suffering without cm punk being there?
Rating besides, they are being paid from a TV deal with warner Discovery and they draw from their ppv's and live gate . Cm punk definitely boosted that income from the average
It doesn't help they have the world's thinnest skin over there. You've got talent that will openly argue with fans on twitter, how low rent is that? If that happened in any other company leadership would be like "knock it off!"
When I think AEW talent on Twitter, I think of John Silver calling people who criticize the product "f*cking losers." Yeah, that John Silver of the Dark Order, who thinks sodomy comedy is peak comedy. How does a jobber still a have a job after doing all that, while also doing nothing at the same time.
Uhhh Seth Rollins anyone?
@@phildeiner7757don’t be dishonest. They said roster not one person.
I am rooting for AEW, I’ve been around since day 1 but the product has really fallen off in my opinion. People like the Young Bucks, that were exciting at the start, seem to put on the same match over and over again and they can’t seem to put together compelling matches. The tournament is fun but it isn’t compelling. It’s just random matches with no real reason to be heavily invested. They aren’t weaving in storylines very well like the big Japanese promotions.
that's what I don't understand about the young bucks. when they first aired AEW on TNT and since then, they kept doing the same thing over and over again.
The thing is if everyone goes out trying to have a compelling match, no one has a compelling match. Everyone in AEW tries to wrestle like they're all in the main event when some matches should not be very competitive. The stars need to be presented as dominant so when they eventually lose it means something towards the winner's momentum. Otherwise it's great athleticism that we all forget by next month.
Yeah.....That one legged "Wrestler" was a hoot? 😑👈
Yeah and he was also 20 fucking years ago
@@robertcrist5747LOL he has accomplished more with one leg than you have with 2 fat ones.
Who would have guessed that chasing your biggest star out of the company could lead to people not watching your show.
He wasn't their biggest star. Not even close.
@@Rocket1377he obviously was lol. You sound legitimately crazy after the re debut on WWE, where he immediately looked like the biggest star in THAT company. The stooges in AEW might have tried really hard to middle him and take the shine off out of some petty childish bs, but it's clear hes still a massive star.
Dave just apologize to Jim
The Bucks, Hangman and Jungle Boy will be the turning point in the future demise of AEW books/docs.
Everyone cheering for the demise of AEW really isn't doing anything productive for the wrestling industry.
@@johnnysupreme5718 Most of want AEW to succeed but pretending like the product is great would be dishonest.
@@gutterpoprecords5595exactly
@@johnnysupreme5718I don't think anyone is cheering for AEW's demise. They're just confirming what people have been saying all along that AEW apologists like Dave and Bryan have been ignoring this entire time. Say what you will about Jim but dude saw this coming from miles and miles away, and he was labeled toxic by hardcores who seem so inseparable from this indie mindset they've cultivated. AEW will fail. As a fan it pains me to admit this but they will. Because they keep reinforcing the same bad things over and over again
@@juniorkhomari1850 Jim being right that AEW is falling apart doesn't mean he's not being toxic about the situation.
He's clearly cheering on their demise and has developed a personal vendetta against the company and everyone in it that is wholly independent on his objective opinion on the company's chances of success.
It’s like y’all don’t remember this happening to wwe just 3 years ago. Every story was “this wrestler isn’t happy back stage”
Or how these stories popped up the first year AEW was on TV.
yeah and then Vince stepped down and Triple H turned it around. Tony isn't going anywhere and neither are "the elite"
My cousin is one of those dudes that hates AEW and he's been happier than shit with this news. Dude really wants it to fail and that's so odd to me.
Seu primo tem uma vida triste
Your cousin Is weird bro
I would denounce that cousin.
Sounds like a seriously sad little person
Honestly with all the near misses they've had (matt hardy concussion, mox nearly breaking his neck) they should be closed down for incompetent health and safety.
Tony is too busy booking matches he always wanted to see rather than hire someone who can book a good show. I love AEW but there is a lot that can be fixed if tony wasn't booking the shows. matches for the sake of matches and no story is just boring.
These two guys had a complete agenda to shout down anyone who might have even suggested that perhaps AEW wasn't on an upward trajectory. Seeing them reluctantly dance around the fact that they have had to eat humble pie on this is karma at its finest.
What happened to the bucks and Kenny? Wasn’t the point of letting Cody and Punk go to make these guys the stars?
The Bucks and Kenny was given the ball the 9 months Punk was gone and they did nothing
Well that's hard to do when the ratings plummet every time the Bucks are on television.
@@RavenGlenn I really enjoyed the Bucks at first but now they are stale. Every match is the same and their character work isn’t good enough to overcome that. They don’t seem to have developed much at all with their in ring work or character work.
The Bucks are the heart & soul of that company but I guess they are burnt out. Looking forward to their ideas after taking a break. Kenny is doing his best ighting age right now, because his style leaves not much room for slowing down. As much as they were perceived as the rising stars when AEW started, people forget that they already were in their 30s and rely heavily on their athleticism style-wise. I miss their influence, too, though. It attracted an atmosphere of creativity and joy when they ran things.
@@DavidRockvoice I’m not hopeful if the rumors are true that they are going to do a “back stage problems” gimmick involving Colt Cabana. The Punk return means that gimmick will look lame.
The AEW locker room is the most sensitive and butt hurt of any in Pro Wrestling. I know Tony makes it worse because he’s a poor leader but still some of these guys need to shut the hell up and just have fun.
I think AEW should just balance the books. Cut the bloated Roster. ReInvest in a Booking/Creative team, and run smaller B Arenas. Renegotiate a network television show for more visibility. And create a 10 episode kid friendly Netflix show to target a child demographic to invest in a future fanbase.
Tony khan doesn't have the creativity to run 3 tv shows
One was good.
All of pro wrestling is finding out what happens when you give a money mark the book. Like it or not, that’s the truth, Dave.
Seems your right
That moment when bryan said wwe was on top n dave immediately went into deny mode 😏
I’d love to know what AEWs revenue is driven by? Attendance is down, toys aren’t selling, videogame was a failure. If they’re making money from their tv deal alone, then that’s not good, all it takes is the network pulling the plug and they’re screwed
I wish it would have just stayed with the originals and kept building the show off of them. I know thats kinda unrealistic, but it was so great in the beginning. Once they started bringing in way too many others, it just started changing the product. In some ways, good, and some ways bad.
I liked it when it had fewer shows, fewer ppv's, and fewer titles.
I am always going to tune in. I love aew. I just hope they get it back together.
Get back to doing more of the big story lines and rivalries that AEW used to do. They used to kill it in that area.
Everything goes up and down. They will get it back together.
I preferred just watching one show on Wednesday once a week. That's it.
It then resolved itself on to a ppv at the end of each month. Simple stuff like that
Tony’s first mistake was making wrestlers executives. Now he’s making wrestlers control disciplinary actions. It’s sad and embarrassing what AEW has become.
This is like the wrestling equivalent of the who shot Hannibal meme.
It’s almost like running and booking a wrestling company is hard and not something a person should do who is new to the business and has important roles in two sports franchises at the same time.
I dont know about you guys, but, I take no joy in hearing this.
I critiqued AEW because i believe it has flaws not so i could revel in its destruction or see it go out of business.
The folks galavanting this like a victory need a reality check.
You guys helped run off Punk for Dave's dream boys the bucks. Now you see the outcome of that. Well done.
They helped how? Punk is a grown man, a hot head, and a rebel by his own admission. He's not a baby.
@@TheGreatDevlin If you don't know how that's not my job petal to be your eyes and ears.
@@danielcraig4974 You missed the point then. Punk is his own man. Love him or hate him, he's not the kinda dude to blame his issues on the big mean news guys reporting stories about him. Dude walked into an octagon, got his ass beat, and did it again. He owns his problems, regardless of if he created them. In trying to defend him like that, you take away his agency in all of this.
I can't believe Dave forced CM Punk at gunpoint to put a guy backstage into a headlock before attacking his boss. Someone needs to stop Meltzer before it's too late
@@johnnysupreme5718I can believe he reported a bunch of lies about it that couldn't be corrected or corroborated by anyone because literally everyone is under NDA. If you think punk randomly started getting violent, you probably believe in the tooth fairy too.
This is sad..this is not thr Dave Meltzer i met 20yrs ago...Dave was different then..because he was on the outside looking in...they boys protected the business from him...and only gave him tidbits of info...now that his buddies and Tony Khan have let him in to the inner circle..Dave will not say anything against AEW...just sad...
Cornette was right Dave why can’t you just learn
TNA had better numbers on tv back on Spike than AEW.
TNA had 2 million in 2009 with Vince Russo
January 4, 2010 = 2.2 million viewers with 1.5 RATING Against Raw on Monday
TNA's numbers on wrestling sites are rating numbers, not viewership numbers. Not like now, all numbers are viewership numbers.
The moment Hogan entered Impact for the first time, the number of viewers was 3 million viewers
Impact After Bound For Glory 2011 = 2 million viewers
TNA 2005 2013 RATINGS = RAW Ratings now
That's very slippery slope logic you using.
They've added Collision and more PPVs, and there gross has gone up. Makes sense to me!
They still can’t draw shit and all of their metrics are down
yeah, AEW sure is gross right now
They need to focus on being the best Aew.
Because its not competitive. It's laughable to even think that nonsense
I thought firing CM Punk would solve everything, who would've thought huh
Well there hasn't been any backstage assaults since so that's an improvement
@@jeremiahmorin1867Yet theres more negativity than ever. Hmmmm
Who said Punk leaving was gonna fix things? Dont act like his behavior wasnt a major problem.
@@phildeiner7757 wasn't he the backstage cancer?
@@jeremiahmorin1867give the bucks, Jericho, Ortiz, Eddie, Andrade, etc a chance. There were plenty of fights before punk came in and there will be more after he left.
Imagine having so much goddamn money you dont care that your son wastes a bazzilion.
They should have spent all of that to support homeless or something instead of doing whatever that they are doing
Dave you need to keep in mind that show on Saturday was Erie's first televised wrestling show since 2003 - there were also only 216 tickets left to be sold at that show, it was almost sold out from what AEW had for sale.
Erie is an untapped area for televised wrestling, now since AEW came last Saturday, WWE has announced a show for April.
Don't take that Erie show into consideration for a "bad crowd". This was AEW reaching a drought region of wrestling to build up their fanbase in an area that hasn't seen a televised wrestling show in 20 YEARS!
lol what a reach
Dude they sell less people when they expect less people. If the area didn’t have a show in over a decade for sure people would pack in. I know this cause I went to a packed AEW show recently in an area they’ve never done a dynamite before
Wow the reaching has stooped to new levels
Everyone I know that has left Erie, never go back and when I ask they say "if you go you'll know why" lol😅
Wow. You’re huffing the copium hard
Tony Khan is the guy you'd employ to be the go between talent and the boss, he's not mentally equipped to be the boss
I'm sorry guys, but how is this news? OK, there are guys in the company who are upset. fine - do your job, do your best to get over, and if you want out, when your contract expires, move to the E or to somewhere else of your choosing. Why make it a big deal?
I'm sure there are people in the E who has negative views sometimes. The only diffrence - and as an AEW dick-rider, it's hard for me to admit - WWE is a lot better with controling and containing their PR and their public image. In AEW, as soon as someone feels something bad, it's all the sudden news and oh-my-god-the-company-colapses. Here's my hot take - stop whinning, deal with the changes, and do your job as best as you can. Oh, and be greatful - if you're working for a big company, making a living, and the company doesn't mistreat you or takes you for granted, you have ZERO reason to complain.
If only Aew had any competent management or leadership in any level. Perhaps the wrestlers wouldn't need to go the last resort of informing fans like you to go and fight for them.
Ha.
AEW is turning more and more into early 2000’s WCW every time I turn around.
WCW 2000 More entertaining than WWE now
New Blood vs. The Millionaires Club...more entertaining than boring Seth Rollins and Sami Zayn
Late 2000’s TNA.
@@nWo4lifewhat a dumb comment
@@gutterpoprecords5595EXACTLY like late 2000s TNA
Aew is their own drama show.
MJF is better as a heel, the Cole thing is out of gas and the best talent in the company never gets a significant run against MJF. A one and done with Omega on a Saturday night was baffling. Top guys are mired in tag teams or factions (or attached to Jericho) and the NJPW wrestlers are treated with little fanfare. Shibata should be headlining, not tagging with Orange Cassidy in the middle of a show. There are a million belts plus ROH - you could cut the roster in half and book simple, manageable programs with the remaining talent.
They need to pull trigger on prickish heel Cole stabbing MJF in the back and move the title picture on; Max isn't the problem here, and solid title reigns that are uninterrupted are good, but keeping a static title picture without actually seeing it through will kill the product
Ya shibata headline will really move the needle.......down
MJF was the hottest heel in wrestling, but TK and Jericho turned him into a baby face who cries on press conferences.
They just wanted NXT to get a good tv deal, so they may not try as hard as they were.
No one stays hot forever and no one stays cold forever.
The company peaked. A lot of fans have given up on it.
Been a fan since day one and I can honestly say I've been giving up more and more every week.
Meltzer is absolutely on aew payroll
I don't even think he is. I think he is just so gassed that the bucks acknowledge him and that he has thrown away any credibility he built up over decades just to feel like 'one of the guys'.
It's pretty pathetic tbh.
It's slowly dawning on him that he bet on the wrong horse.
Btw. The sources that are claiming that MJF quietly resigned with AEW are the same "sources" that said WWE "rejected" Punk. lol
Just sayin..
If MJF jumps ship, that's the end of AEW. All their other stars are over 40, with some over 50.
@@EwanCumia Yip
I feel so bad for Dave. He's finally having to report on what has been obvious for some time. I also love how the lie he's been peddling for the last 5 years about AEW preparing for the future while bringing in every over the hill former wwe star doesn't make sense.
Shocking. Punk is gone, toddlers are still throwing tantrums, no one is happy, & no one will still pay to see the bucks, Jericurl kazoo, or Negative charisma Page on PPV or in person.
TK is a nepobaby clown. At some point daddy will pull the plug on this, as it continues to lose money.
alot of people from the start were apart of the ALL FRIENDS WRESTLING and they weren't very good.. getting rid QT and kevin is GOOD for AEW.. lose rukus next that mans tracks SUCK. Glad to see they are hiring professional and not just giving handouts anymore.
Yeah hiring QT for the spots he had at all was embarrassing. He was never good! Everyone he trained sucks and needs years of additional work to make anything of themselves!
It might sound like I'm stating the obvious, but wanting to watch wrestling that isn't WWE-style is what compels people to watch wrestling shows that aren't WWE. AEW used to be an alternative; lately they feel like an imitation. Bloodbath deathmatch notwithstanding, Full Gear 2023 felt like any other mid-2010s WWE show.
WWE IS PG Since 2008
Full Gear 2023 = TV 14 + blood
How is it similar to WWE?
@@nWo4life Do you not understand what "notwithstanding" means? Are you in elementary school?
Didn't read the article yet, do we get into the video game at all?
If AEW didn’t have MJF it would be exactly what TNA was in like 2009
2009 Bryan would've torn the Ibushi bicycle spot to shreds if it had happened in TNA.
,,
TNA had 2 million in 2009 with Vince Russo
January 4, 2010 = 2.2 million viewers with 1.5 RATING Against Raw on Monday
TNA's numbers on wrestling sites are rating numbers, not viewership numbers. Not like now, all numbers are viewership numbers.
The moment Hogan entered Impact for the first time, the number of viewers was 3 million viewers
Impact After Bound For Glory 2011 = 2 million viewers
TNA 2005 2013 RATINGS = RAW Ratings now
More like 2014 TNA after AJ Styles bailed
@oelboy bruh!! I'm so surprised nobody ever mentions that Bryan & Vinny would tear everything TNA did apart & made fun of it. AEW is worse & silence. I lost all respect for these guys for that. They both did it to WCW too. Nothing AEW has done has been close to what WCW achieved
TNAs weekly numbers destroys anything AEW has done. Not even close
Hey Dave, you know you're culpable right? Your "reporting" is quite literally a major factor in it. May you and all those who react on your words find a beautiful karma receipt.
AEW is consistently killing it's own vibe at every single month, all because it's identity crisis
Dave talking about AEW sounds like a disappointed dad talking about how his kid got expelled from school again.
😂
has to be tough for Dave to report these troubles, as an employee of the company
Here's my theory. I am not a fan of WWE just so my bias is on the table. Hunter has been hitting home runs ever since Vince stepped aside. And this is the best WWE has been doing since AEW started. AEW until very recently did everything better than WWE did, that's no longer true. Right now it only feels like the in ring product is better all the other things WWE is killing them on. And I think that's affecting morale. Do I think WWE can sustain this good run long term? No I think their business structure is actually going to cause them problems down the road. But Short to Medium term into 2024 yeah I think WWE is going to keep doing well.
Truth. The pendulum is swinging the other way. AEW gotta step things up.
Hey, you! Stop that rational discussion in the comment section. It's doomsday and tribalism here... And for some reason, still crapping on TNA in 2023. 🤔😂
It’s just really confusing to me how Tony could all of a sudden start dropping the ball so hard with storylines and booking, considering how good they’d been for the first three years.
Like, he couldn’t have picked a worse time to lower the quality of the product. The in-ring product is absolutely the best in American television right now, but the storylines are all over the place.
@@ArcanaEric True. There's something different backstage going back almost two years and we can only speculate from the outside. The only characters I feel haven't changed are the BCC (other than the Regal stuff). And I feel like Mox and Danielson have creative input there.
AEW maybe 80% Trash but I'd rather watch that than the boring tame sterile WWE PG product that WWE craps out on a weekly basis. It's more kiddie friendly and PG than the Cena PG Era. CM Punk or no CM Punk I won't be watching regularly because it Sucks period.
The Wembley PPV was AEW's WM17, since that PPV ended everything is going wrong. Except for PPVs, everything else is ranging from stagnant to fading. Tony Khan has become a laughingstock and the CM Punk fiasco did a lot of damage, and Punks return at SS made Khan look the biggest fool since the days of Russo, George Scott, and Jim Herd.
If AEW doesn't recover it is forever proof that a workrate based promotion will never be massive in North America.
You wish
B-b-but what about the Bucks? And Kenny? They were supposed to bring in the ratings and crowds with their acrobatics, feats of derring-do and fame from Japan! Don't tell me they didn't deliver, Dave, I beg of you!
Kenny usually does have pretty good ratings but it's time for all of us to admit that the bucks subtracting six figures from the Nielsens every time they appear on tv isn't a good sign for the future and enough to get any other team shelved indefinitely.
Y'all wanted a secondary promotion so WWE could pull thier boots up and get better but now that's actually happening, you're whining about it.
If this wasn't funded by a billionaire who can keep funding it even in the red. It would be out of business. He can afford to keep it going regardless of profit and mistakes.
Hmmm could love sworn Tony Khan said everything was “fine” they’re turning into TNA 2.0
8:00 okay while yes I agree that hotshotting NXT for that one head-to-head night might have led to some lower weeks now, but I don’t think the goal was ever for NXT to overtake Dynamite, it was just meant to stifle them at a vulnerable moment which they have very successfully done I feel. Dynamite has not really recovered strongly since that point 6-7 weeks ago (or whenever it was)
It was meant to make NXT more attractive to other networks and it worked.
I thought the negativity left with Punk?! I thought we were supposed to give The Bucks their flowers? I thought the problem was gone? What happened? It couldn’t possibly be that Punk was right about working with children?! It couldn’t possibly be that people should have listened when he said, “please be more careful with the things you get from certain sources and just remember we’re human beings”…
😂. Nah..... Makes too much sense! Must be some convoluted wacky stuff.
Soooooo it wasn't Punks fault after all?
They have failed to commit to any characters and get them over big time. Constant starts and stops and a weird decision to put everything on MJF and Cole whom I don't think are really the guys to carry the brand. Put both of them in a photo next to Roman Reigns and Drew Mcintyre.
MJF has the personality to go against Romand and Drew. But yes, they're both much smaller.
I'm starting to realize that wrestling observer is AEW issues.
If Tony stopped listening to this show the show would get a lot better tbh.
I don't know why I got sent this. Listening to him is very depressing. He's become a click bait. Time to hit the don't not recommend channel and I like Alvarez
Dave just needs to go heel on Tony Khan. He doesn’t know what he is doing. And doesn’t have the right people making the decisions that need to be made to be a successful company. Bryan is being more honest lately surprisingly 😂
It's not 2019 but their pay per views deliver,got good characters like Toni Storm and Roderick Strong,two good storylines MJF devil and Edge/Christian story,all the negative came from WWE for years under Vince McMahon
Keep huffing the copium
Two good storylines with 4 hours of wrestling a week from them😂
WWE got competition and got their shit together. Now there is “turmoil” in AEW. All there is to it. It’s not negativity as much as it is frustration.
Let the river of excuses flow
Almost like Punk wasn’t the problem huh?
the Montreal Canadiens play out of the Bell Centre usually on Saturdays (home games), so I'll assume they couldn't book the saturday night when the Habs are on the road.
How's dave going to blame punk now?
How many times in the past have they bashed WWE over poor ratings and tried to poetray them like a stagnant company? But with AEW, they still have to sugar coat their issues...
Dave must be on the AEW payroll. I don’t get why he tries his best to make excuses for AEW! Journalism is supposed to be impartial. I hear what Dave says, he got a lot of experience, but nowadays most of the times I don’t listen or agree with him at all. It’s his opinion. He’s obviously rooting for AEW. So am I, but we have to be realistic. AEW is on its worst moment ever. Something needs to be done. And now that shit with Bryan getting injured again (kayfabe or not, I’m not sure because it was Andrade again 🤔) it’s not good for business. Seems like Bryan running away from the backlash of CM Punk firing 🤷🏻♂️. It’s not looking great. TNA might be the number 2 option coming 2024. Wild thought but it’s always great to have an alternative.
But I thought all the negativity left when they got rid of Punk. 🤔
They handed cm punk to wwe
Dave is negative 5 stars
I used to watch AEW regularly, but things shifted when Tony bought ROH. There were suddenly so many more titles and tournaments, and Tony kept continuously bringing in even more ex-WWE guys. There's an oversaturation of older wrestlers, titles, tournaments, and now even shows.
How compelling is it when many of your most featured storylines involve middle-aged guys who were much better ten-twenty years ago, it feels like every other wrestler has a belt of some kind, and the rest of the show features cold matches just for the sake of a technically good match?
So Punk wasn't the problem..
Tony Khan is the problem
Punk was A problem but not THE problem
Actually, it seems like the opposite. Go figure.
Ha.
Ofc he wasn’t the main problem. Everyone knows whose the main problem and he’s the one cutting the check
Never was. It’s all of the soft wrestlers Meltzer likes
Yall remember when Jericho said Dynamite was gonna beat Raw?
I won't be surprised if we see Jericho on Raw in couple of years
They debute in Oklahoma at the end of December. No way they are selling out the Pay Com center. I got friends that live there they said they want to go to see Sting and J.R.
Tickets sales have been abysmal since Jeff Jarrett joined, who knew charging over $100 for shitty seats for a collision show the day before a dynamite headlined by Christian/Copeland in the same building would lead to poor sales?
You know when Dave is starting to admit the problems it's really rough
So what business are not allowed to have temporary downturns? It's just the natural ebb and flow of the market.
It's not an "ebb and flow." TK is making mistake after mistake and the company is taking a major nosedive for it.
@@BrrrrPlayboi Replace "TK" with "Vince" and it sums up half of the WWE's existence. Wrestling companies have to keep changing and evolving and downturns are the sign that it's time to change again.
@@johnnysupreme5718 No it doesn't. Vince has never nosedived his business the way TK has, not once even in the down periods of WWF/E history. He's never gone from doing 10,000+ seats every week to struggling to get 2,000 people in a building in a span of 2 years- literally not once, not ever, try again.
@@BrrrrPlayboi New Gen era.
And comparing seats or any metric like that is pointless because the WWE was already established when Vince took over. It's an ancient business, not a new company just getting out of it's honeymoon phase.
Wrestling has been an up and down business forever. That's not a defense of Tony or his shit booking, but it's still just how it is.
Tiny Tony probably calculated that WWE would never bring Punk back after his little "feared for my life" speech
Tonys instincts are wayyyy off. lol
I'm glad that you created a reality in your head and you believe in it! Keep at it! Also, get a therapist...
HHH is "Scared"
@@robertcrist5747I pray for a skit where Punk yells at HHH and then Hunter looks at the camera and say that he "Feared for his life."
@@loserhimself4044 He's joking around, your username checks out though.
oh i thought CM Punk was the problem 🤣