I think it being a toss up speaks volumes for how shootable the cr920 is. I think the comp makes a huge difference on getting back on target quicker, and the dot as well. I'm curious if you put the shield sight on the cr920 if you would prefer it to the hellcat lol great video man! I'm excited to shoot mine hopefully sooner than later.
I absolutely agree! I do plan on running the shield on the cr920 eventually! Once I get that on I'll re visit this topic! I want to put a few hundred more rounds through the shadow before the full review. Enjoying it so far though!
I've been concealed carrying for 10 years and have carried 6 different guns ranging from full sized, revolver, subcompact to micro. My most recent purchase for carry is the hellcat rdp w/wasp and it has the best carry comfort to shoot ability I've owned. The most shootable being my first gun XDM but extremely uncomfortable to carry and my most comfortable to carry was the 709 slim but was the absolute worst shooter I've ever had(a hand-me-down from my mother). But the rdp was my first foray into red dot sight carry and i admittedly thought it to be a gimmick but it grew on me super fast. *edit*: i have carried strong side, back, pocket and appendix but appendix is by far my favorite and I've been carrying like that for maybe 4 years.
Awesome!! I really like the insite, the hellcat rdp really is an underrated gun due to people thinking it's a gimmick. I'm glad you enjoy yours! Thanks for watching!👍
@@gunpowderandprotein3444 im also guilty of the gimmick jokes, but i was lucky enough to get to shoot one before even considering buying one and as of right now its my end all be all carry gun. But who knows what thw future tells. My first handgun at 21yo was my end all be all at the time.
Just from Looking it seemed the CR was Shooting a Smudge Flatter it was not flipping up as much and looked just Flatter shooting I guess and it is a little tough comparing when one has Irons and the other an optic which would help get back on target faster at least for me but they both seem awesome. Tough Choice
Now do the same comparison with the CR920P (compensated) vs Hellcat RDP. I have a CR920P. Shoots very flat and smooth. The drigger did get noticably better after about 2-300 rounds.
The shield is a good choice as well. It comes down to capacity for me with keeping a small size and the cr920 having a higher capacity and in my opinion better sights I prefer the shadow!
@@LeviMakesYT I have shot both but I have more experience with the shadow. For me personally the cr920. But I have a Smith and wesson csx and in my opinion that shoots better than the cr920, but the csx is also heavier and is a double action vs a striker
How’s the grip angle on the CR920? Is it like a Glock or traditional like a 1911? If it’s angled like a Glock it will be a no go for me but if they fixed the Glocks grip angle with their design I will be seriously looking into getting one. That is if HK doesn’t drop a micro 9 at the NRA show in Texas at the end of the month. I’ve been hearing rumors…
So it leans more towards 1911. A little more neutral that way, unlike the 920's it does not have removable back straps on my model. But I like the grip angle personally!
I don't have the cr920 but I do have the mr918 elite (their basically gen1 of the mr920 being gen2) and I absolutely love it. Can't recall which back strap is on it but I absolutely love it especially over a glock. Having a hard time deciding between cr920 xr920 or a fn 509 tactical.
Yes, in my opinion the cr920 is definitely less snappy than the original hellcat I feel the cr920 shoots better. That being said it could just be the way the shadows ergonomics are!
@@koby6734 thanks man I really appreciate hearing that! Really glad you enjoy. Reach out if you want to see something I'll do my best to make it happen 👍
Ahhh I know it. Sometimes I'll get caught up with filming and forget about that part, I'll be sure to have them on! Thanks for watching I appreciate it!
Personally, I would never carry a pistol with a compensator. There is too much risk of getting hit by shrapnel or hot gasses if you shoot with the pistol close to your body like you might potentially need to in a self-defense scenario.
@@gunpowderandprotein3444 $839 for the Elite, got it the other day and I have been looking everywhere...the most I have seen the Elite is $899.00 ....never seen it a grand.
I don't understand why anyone is still supporting Springfield after they turned their backs on gun owners. Love the cr920 and enjoy switching between it and my ppks for a BUG. But, not as a main. All these micro compacts are great but should you find yourself in an actual self defense scenario. You're gonna wish you had something with a full grip and almost double the rounds.
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I think it being a toss up speaks volumes for how shootable the cr920 is. I think the comp makes a huge difference on getting back on target quicker, and the dot as well. I'm curious if you put the shield sight on the cr920 if you would prefer it to the hellcat lol great video man! I'm excited to shoot mine hopefully sooner than later.
I absolutely agree! I do plan on running the shield on the cr920 eventually! Once I get that on I'll re visit this topic! I want to put a few hundred more rounds through the shadow before the full review. Enjoying it so far though!
I've been concealed carrying for 10 years and have carried 6 different guns ranging from full sized, revolver, subcompact to micro. My most recent purchase for carry is the hellcat rdp w/wasp and it has the best carry comfort to shoot ability I've owned. The most shootable being my first gun XDM but extremely uncomfortable to carry and my most comfortable to carry was the 709 slim but was the absolute worst shooter I've ever had(a hand-me-down from my mother). But the rdp was my first foray into red dot sight carry and i admittedly thought it to be a gimmick but it grew on me super fast.
*edit*: i have carried strong side, back, pocket and appendix but appendix is by far my favorite and I've been carrying like that for maybe 4 years.
Awesome!! I really like the insite, the hellcat rdp really is an underrated gun due to people thinking it's a gimmick. I'm glad you enjoy yours! Thanks for watching!👍
@@gunpowderandprotein3444 im also guilty of the gimmick jokes, but i was lucky enough to get to shoot one before even considering buying one and as of right now its my end all be all carry gun. But who knows what thw future tells. My first handgun at 21yo was my end all be all at the time.
@@jarwins649 awesome man enjoy!!
Just from Looking it seemed the CR was Shooting a Smudge Flatter it was not flipping up as much and looked just Flatter shooting I guess and it is a little tough comparing when one has Irons and the other an optic which would help get back on target faster at least for me but they both seem awesome. Tough Choice
Eventually I will probably put an optic on the shadow so that defiantly could be why it seems to drop on target quickly for sure, both great options!
Now do the same comparison with the CR920P (compensated) vs Hellcat RDP.
I have a CR920P. Shoots very flat and smooth. The drigger did get noticably better after about 2-300 rounds.
Great job very informative keep it up
Thanks dude I appreciate it!
Debating between the cro920 elite or smith Wesson shield plus optic. Any thoughts and why?
The shield is a good choice as well. It comes down to capacity for me with keeping a small size and the cr920 having a higher capacity and in my opinion better sights I prefer the shadow!
@@gunpowderandprotein3444 capacity is the same 13 plus 1. I heard that there’s a trigger issue with the shadow system
@@Rpx3144 I have probably 600 rounds through and no issues to speak of!
Which gun shoots flatter? Cr920 or shield plus?
@@LeviMakesYT I have shot both but I have more experience with the shadow. For me personally the cr920. But I have a Smith and wesson csx and in my opinion that shoots better than the cr920, but the csx is also heavier and is a double action vs a striker
How’s the grip angle on the CR920? Is it like a Glock or traditional like a 1911? If it’s angled like a Glock it will be a no go for me but if they fixed the Glocks grip angle with their design I will be seriously looking into getting one. That is if HK doesn’t drop a micro 9 at the NRA show in Texas at the end of the month. I’ve been hearing rumors…
So it leans more towards 1911. A little more neutral that way, unlike the 920's it does not have removable back straps on my model. But I like the grip angle personally!
I don't have the cr920 but I do have the mr918 elite (their basically gen1 of the mr920 being gen2) and I absolutely love it. Can't recall which back strap is on it but I absolutely love it especially over a glock. Having a hard time deciding between cr920 xr920 or a fn 509 tactical.
@@Scuroater well I suppose it depends what you plan on doing with it. Making it you Conceal gun or more just for the range?
You owning a original hellcat not the RDP and knowing that it’s snappy would you say the cr920 is less snappy?
Yes, in my opinion the cr920 is definitely less snappy than the original hellcat I feel the cr920 shoots better. That being said it could just be the way the shadows ergonomics are!
@@gunpowderandprotein3444 thank you for getting back to me and hope your channel blows up. Love the content.
@@koby6734 thanks man I really appreciate hearing that! Really glad you enjoy. Reach out if you want to see something I'll do my best to make it happen 👍
Compare the 920 to a s&w shield plus...or maybe the mako r7... Closer in size
I'll do my best!!
Is the RDP and the regular hellcat the same exact size once the dot sight and commentator are removed?
Yes it is other than the barrel is threaded for the comp adding length
How do you not have the shield plus in the mix???
Ahhh I know it! I just haven't picked one up yet
Is the mag release on the cr920 reversible for left handed people?
Unfortunately I don't believe so. I haven't heard or tried if it is
@@gunpowderandprotein3444 bummer. Thx for the reply.
I thought the mag releases are Ambi on shadow systems?
@@steveb5370 it is ambi.
Good video though bro thx
I appreciate it!!
Bro. Can’t believe you’re not wear eye pro at that distance. I’m assuming you’re shooting with FMJ? Be safe out there man.
Ahhh I know it. Sometimes I'll get caught up with filming and forget about that part, I'll be sure to have them on! Thanks for watching I appreciate it!
Personally, I would never carry a pistol with a compensator. There is too much risk of getting hit by shrapnel or hot gasses if you shoot with the pistol close to your body like you might potentially need to in a self-defense scenario.
There wouldn’t be much of a difference at all. Idk just my opinion
Shrapnel??
Price on the cr920??
They start at $679 for the basic no optics ready, all the way up to just over $1,000 for the elite optics ready. The one you see here was $750
Those pots and pans didn’t stand a chance
Pots and pans will think twice before trespassing
not really sure how you can compare these guns when one is comped and the other isn't just saying,.,
Um no sight comparison and compensator you're bias
Well for how they're both set up currently that's my pick. If you send a site I'd be happy to reevaluate
CR920 feels cheap. The Hellcat had a tight fit and better perceived build quality.
The elite is like $850 max not a grand …
Depends where you get it
@@gunpowderandprotein3444 $839 for the Elite, got it the other day and I have been looking everywhere...the most I have seen the Elite is $899.00 ....never seen it a grand.
@@fredrickjames4340 good find!
I don't understand why anyone is still supporting Springfield after they turned their backs on gun owners. Love the cr920 and enjoy switching between it and my ppks for a BUG. But, not as a main. All these micro compacts are great but should you find yourself in an actual self defense scenario. You're gonna wish you had something with a full grip and almost double the rounds.
Something I didn't consider but I absolutely agree with that!!
Xr920 or fn 509 tactical.
I don't think it was exactly cut and dry for Springfield if you listen to both sides.
Easy choice between these. Don't give anti 2A companies money. Go with CR920.