I have been looking for this kind of spring test. There is a lot of meaningful information in the video. Honestly, this is a lot of work and I appreciate it.
I appreciate the amount of effort you put into putting all those different springs in and slowly camera work. It really shows the difference in bottoming out and high shock tower tension
Thanks Brian, it's a question or topic I think needs more input as to the happy balance between bottoming out the car and letting the shocks do what they should. But I'm using a 1/14 scale to demonstrat I'm sure haters will want a bigger scale test next haha.
Thanks for the demonstration!! The green springs seem to offer the best rebounding without allowing the chasis to have excess vertical movement. Great video!!
I thought the green springs were best too - there was zero bounce on the wheels with the green spring - the lime green was nearly the same but not quite as good as the green. The other springs showed considerable bounce on the wheels.
@@SwallowsCourt the green and lime are sublime with 800cst oil. It was interesting to do, some find it interesting to watch as well. Thanks for the comments
Great demo. Green seems to be best. I have the exact same oil and put it in my cheetah (stock springs) and didn't notice any difference between rebound/no rebound in mine as well. Appreciate your effort in this vid bro. Keep up the great content!
I see, well this will be interesting to see what happens in part 2. Stock spring on these wltoys are "shocking" but after getting 5 new set. I thought I better get testing things out. Hope it's at least mildly entertain thanks for the comment and support
So the question now is,, what will happen to that sweet spot. With no rebound in the shock? Wonder if things will change. Thanks for the comment and support dude.
@@mehimrc1314 Only way to know is to try, that way you’ll know if it’s completely depending on the spring itself or not. My guess is it’s the combination of the shock rebound and the spring load.
@@robsrcinsanity1220 oh I like your thinking. Wonder if the oil dragging though the shock will up set the first result. Yeah part 2 incoming sorry it's not more clear of an image.
Cheers for the comment dude, I'm just testing for people to see the difference. Then what effect no rebound has,,, its not looking good for the rear end let's just say.
It all depends.. The height of the drop beeing the biggest factor. I personally like my springs a bit stiffer for jumps, so the body doesnt slam into the ground as easy/hard. For handling and racing i like em softer. I would advise not to have rebound due to too much oil, bigger drops/jumps will blow out the o-rings as the oil has nowhere to go when the shaft enters the shock body. Topping up the shocks with the shaft extended will leave no room for the shaft as oil is not compressable. This is why the shock will rebound. I ALWAYS make sure there is just enough oil in so the shock just about wants to rebound, never more.
This video is for people wanting information on rebound v no rebound and what it can mean to your shocks/car depending on spring rates. Whether bashing or racing there is a set up to suit needs? Can this be agree upon? Should people change shock set up from one to the next or will people blame something else for the damage that's caused by not looking into this subject. Yes they're TOYS but some people want more info. Thanks too all commenters adding to this subject. Knowledge is power!
@@mehimrc1314 im not trying to undermine your video mate. Just my two cents. Maybe warning about the risk to the o-rings when there is rebound would be wise.
@@leovandijk8852 no no dude don't read the comment wrong... I'm wanting all this info so people get a good picture of what they can expect. Or in fact how people can set up a shock for different occasions or people will blow shocks or damage more parts if it's slamming off the floor. Too much of one thing is bad but where is the balance? It's all question based for me on this one dude. Great comment
@@mehimrc1314 I feel like it will bounce around, and cause the car the be unstable at higher speed and cornering. We'll see I guess if you actually do a part 2 lol.
@@itsjustWebbie I just wasn't sure anyone would be able to see a difference, so I stopped short and held of for opinions. Your thoughts are much appreciated dude.
I see a little difference so well done! For me i like the full rebound lime green and green. The red start showing a little wheel lift on rebound and then they bounce even more going into purple. Im trying to get speed runs under control so wheels staying on ground would be good for me. Thanks man this really helped and i have decided to but those springs! I was on the fence on buying them but this really sd it for me!
Awesome man, I'm glad its came across fairly well so people can tell a difference. Towards the later spring it's very noticeable to bounce. So part 2 could be interesting will no rebound actually dampen the spring rate. Place your bets haha
This video is for people wanting information on rebound v no rebound and what it can mean to your shocks/car depending on spring rates. Whether bashing or racing there is a set up to suit needs? Can this be agree upon? Should people change shock set up from one situation to the next or will people blame something else for the damage that's caused by not looking into this subject. Yes they're TOYS but some people want more info. Thanks too all commenters adding to this subject. Knowledge is power!
As with 1:1 car racing, suspension setups are modified according to each individual track, on or off-road. Scale racing would be no different, certainly... Interesting insight, even though I do not own one of these. :-)
@@gmcevoy hey man,any information you can to share, is greatly appreciated. That's all I'm trying to apply, that kind of logic to find a sensible set up for these little rockets. The quality of the shocks does not help but what can we expect they're toys but that won't stop Me trying. I'm sure I'll have the shocks apart, trying to perfect the seals ect. Hope all is well thanks for the support.
i know you said you dont wanna do rcmart any favors but i really need to get these springs lol. can you please help us out and show us where to get them?
eBay has loads they're called (speed springs) I'd add links to these but people have had issues with some sizes. Rcmart website they're called the same (speed springs) delivery is a while or was for me.
So the first would be more suited for speed running perhaps and the latter spring for bashing. Blue,purple, definitely to much for anything in my opinion. But will part 2 do anything to that. We'll find out.
@@lucionjay5376 the shortest answers are often the ones that nail it haha. I think you could be right as the shock is meant to dampen the rate of the spring with the oil. So by taking real life mechanics we should be able to find a good shock oil to spring rate set up. Whether bashing or speed running there's should be an almost standardised set up for each. Depending on scale of the car of course each would have to be worked out. I'm getting nurdy sorry dude. Any way thanks for the comment I'll keep plucking away.
i brought new racing springs and the rebound bounce was to hard so changed from 1000cst to 600 and they work a treat now just waiting on summer ....them blue ones would be very good for bashing
So with a thicker oil you managed to control the spring rate NICE! This is just information for those who are unsure of what is what with shocks ect. Hope it helps someone at least.
@@mehimrc1314 yeah kind of i would say.. but would like a softer front pair on ..cant wait for some nice days so can test run we just have mad wind the last two days ...owe it will deffo help someone and as you said the big streamers dont talk about this ;)
@@andyroo8uk685 yeah dude fingers crossed for dryer weather. thanks for the support, i do use different springs front to rear as the motor drops the back end.
@@mehimrc1314 i brought racing shocks and springs (65mm) from bg i am super happy with the rear but fronts are being a pain i got some from modelsport on way so fingers crossed lol..yeah dude love your content man just nice and chilled the way i like it lol ...yeah my 124019 been in bits since december lmao still got to put deans and bullets on the esc lol ...ive done the shocks and put metal spur and harden planet gears on the end of the driveshaft and thats about it lol its this snow and rain thats put me off lol
@@andyroo8uk685 65mm got s set and didn't like them. Springs end up about the same length as those. But still what one doesn't like someone else might. Thanks for the awesome comments to dude much appreciated. Hope to put some fun content out soon.
The weight could play a part in it, that's why I used the stock battery as a constant base. Its upto anyone watching to figure the rest out. Great comment dude thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Yeah it's in there haha just the side I used I guess you can't see. Dont be sorry it was a top valid question, I personally like your thinking. All you have to do is increase or decrease rebound on the battery side to compensate for the weight.
@@mehimrc1314 I got 2 stock 144001s and after doing exactly your drop test, I was unfortunately shocked! :( So I am currently trying to get the proper parts, like different shock oil, to fix this together with my son after his birthday. Your video was a great help, as it doesn't show just some end result, but the experiment, to reach a good result. It gives me an idea, where to go regarding the springs and the fill level. So I have to thank you for this video!
Well say happy bday to your son from Me Him Rc when the time comes. I'm glad you got what I was intending from this test. I wish you the best of luck with your testing and I hope you and your son have a fantastic time in RC. Thanks for your really supportive and uplifting comments.
Excellent man I needed other eyes to confirm this is worthwhile. Amazing how it's still came across considering the frame rates. Thanks for comment and support
Don't know what you mean by "what were they for" The spring set was from eBay or you can get them from RCmarti, sorry if there isn't a link RCmarti were snotty so I won't do them anymore favours.
LC racing short course bumper set. No screw with it you need to supply them. Any question on any video is fine dude. Of topic Is asking how to bake a cake lol not quite RC related haha. Have a good one mate
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Can you give me link for the coloured spring
You can also find them on eBay. www.rcmart.com/xtra-speed-30mm-spring-set-for-1-10-rc-car-xs-59591-00059995#.Ybi2SVpDD-k.link
@@mehimrc1314 thanks
I have been looking for this kind of spring test. There is a lot of meaningful information in the video. Honestly, this is a lot of work and I appreciate it.
Thanks for the wonderful comment my friend. Yes lots of time and effort but well worth it in the end.
I appreciate the amount of effort you put into putting all those different springs in and slowly camera work. It really shows the difference in bottoming out and high shock tower tension
Thanks Brian, it's a question or topic I think needs more input as to the happy balance between bottoming out the car and letting the shocks do what they should. But I'm using a 1/14 scale to demonstrat I'm sure haters will want a bigger scale test next haha.
Thanks for the demonstration!! The green springs seem to offer the best rebounding without allowing the chasis to have excess vertical movement. Great video!!
So you can see a difference! My head was saying WASTE OF TIME. so part 2, No rebound with all spring rates?
I thought the green springs were best too - there was zero bounce on the wheels with the green spring - the lime green was nearly the same but not quite as good as the green. The other springs showed considerable bounce on the wheels.
@@SwallowsCourt the green and lime are sublime with 800cst oil. It was interesting to do, some find it interesting to watch as well. Thanks for the comments
Yep, I concur. Green is best. Excellent experiment. Thanks for sharing. Look forward to part 2!
Too the point dude that's what I need, thanks for your comment and support man. Much appreciated
Great demo. Green seems to be best.
I have the exact same oil and put it in my cheetah (stock springs) and didn't notice any difference between rebound/no rebound in mine as well.
Appreciate your effort in this vid bro. Keep up the great content!
I see, well this will be interesting to see what happens in part 2. Stock spring on these wltoys are "shocking" but after getting 5 new set. I thought I better get testing things out. Hope it's at least mildly entertain thanks for the comment and support
I agree with the other comment, the green springs seemed to be the sweet spot on that setup. I appreciate all the time you took to do this 👍🏻🍻
So the question now is,, what will happen to that sweet spot. With no rebound in the shock? Wonder if things will change. Thanks for the comment and support dude.
@@mehimrc1314 Only way to know is to try, that way you’ll know if it’s completely depending on the spring itself or not. My guess is it’s the combination of the shock rebound and the spring load.
@@robsrcinsanity1220 oh I like your thinking. Wonder if the oil dragging though the shock will up set the first result. Yeah part 2 incoming sorry it's not more clear of an image.
@@mehimrc1314 Dude I'm doing all my videos with an old LG K8 from 2017. Your videos look just fine.
The green springs looked spot on for the weight of oil you are using.
Cheers for the comment dude, I'm just testing for people to see the difference. Then what effect no rebound has,,, its not looking good for the rear end let's just say.
It all depends..
The height of the drop beeing the biggest factor.
I personally like my springs a bit stiffer for jumps, so the body doesnt slam into the ground as easy/hard.
For handling and racing i like em softer.
I would advise not to have rebound due to too much oil, bigger drops/jumps will blow out the o-rings as the oil has nowhere to go when the shaft enters the shock body.
Topping up the shocks with the shaft extended will leave no room for the shaft as oil is not compressable. This is why the shock will rebound.
I ALWAYS make sure there is just enough oil in so the shock just about wants to rebound, never more.
I totally agree to much rebound is no good just like u said the tiniest bit
This video is for people wanting information on rebound v no rebound and what it can mean to your shocks/car depending on spring rates. Whether bashing or racing there is a set up to suit needs? Can this be agree upon? Should people change shock set up from one to the next or will people blame something else for the damage that's caused by not looking into this subject. Yes they're TOYS but some people want more info. Thanks too all commenters adding to this subject. Knowledge is power!
@@mehimrc1314 im not trying to undermine your video mate. Just my two cents. Maybe warning about the risk to the o-rings when there is rebound would be wise.
@@leovandijk8852 no no dude don't read the comment wrong... I'm wanting all this info so people get a good picture of what they can expect. Or in fact how people can set up a shock for different occasions or people will blow shocks or damage more parts if it's slamming off the floor. Too much of one thing is bad but where is the balance? It's all question based for me on this one dude. Great comment
@@mehimrc1314 agreed
Most definitely green, the tires stayed glues to the ground and didn't upset the chassis which is what you want for handling.
So what about part 2 with no rebound set in the shock. How do you think the results will pan out then? Place your bets haha
@@mehimrc1314 I feel like it will bounce around, and cause the car the be unstable at higher speed and cornering. We'll see I guess if you actually do a part 2 lol.
@@itsjustWebbie I just wasn't sure anyone would be able to see a difference, so I stopped short and held of for opinions. Your thoughts are much appreciated dude.
I see a little difference so well done! For me i like the full rebound lime green and green. The red start showing a little wheel lift on rebound and then they bounce even more going into purple. Im trying to get speed runs under control so wheels staying on ground would be good for me. Thanks man this really helped and i have decided to but those springs! I was on the fence on buying them but this really sd it for me!
Awesome man, I'm glad its came across fairly well so people can tell a difference. Towards the later spring it's very noticeable to bounce. So part 2 could be interesting will no rebound actually dampen the spring rate. Place your bets haha
@@mehimrc1314 My bets are on they will mostly botrom out!
Thanks for the work !
It kept me busy haha thanks.
This video is for people wanting information on rebound v no rebound and what it can mean to your shocks/car depending on spring rates. Whether bashing or racing there is a set up to suit needs? Can this be agree upon? Should people change shock set up from one situation to the next or will people blame something else for the damage that's caused by not looking into this subject. Yes they're TOYS but some people want more info. Thanks too all commenters adding to this subject. Knowledge is power!
As with 1:1 car racing, suspension setups are modified according to each individual track, on or off-road. Scale racing would be no different, certainly... Interesting insight, even though I do not own one of these. :-)
@@gmcevoy hey man,any information you can to share, is greatly appreciated. That's all I'm trying to apply, that kind of logic to find a sensible set up for these little rockets. The quality of the shocks does not help but what can we expect they're toys but that won't stop Me trying. I'm sure I'll have the shocks apart, trying to perfect the seals ect.
Hope all is well thanks for the support.
Great stuff mate.
Cheers
Thanks dude hope it's understandable.
@@mehimrc1314 it is.
All your vids help alot.
Next time you get to Australia,
Ill shout you some beers.
@@brentanllewellyn3898 best offer I've had due to my vids. If the flights open I'm there brother. Much appreciate the support
@@mehimrc1314 sweet.
We will lend you a car to blatt.
Show you some great spots to bush bash too.
Thanx again.
i know you said you dont wanna do rcmart any favors but i really need to get these springs lol. can you please help us out and show us where to get them?
eBay has loads they're called (speed springs) I'd add links to these but people have had issues with some sizes. Rcmart website they're called the same (speed springs) delivery is a while or was for me.
Sweet the second colour or 3rd i like first one to soft
So the first would be more suited for speed running perhaps and the latter spring for bashing. Blue,purple, definitely to much for anything in my opinion. But will part 2 do anything to that. We'll find out.
Should be similar just less jump back
@@lucionjay5376 the shortest answers are often the ones that nail it haha. I think you could be right as the shock is meant to dampen the rate of the spring with the oil. So by taking real life mechanics we should be able to find a good shock oil to spring rate set up. Whether bashing or speed running there's should be an almost standardised set up for each. Depending on scale of the car of course each would have to be worked out. I'm getting nurdy sorry dude. Any way thanks for the comment I'll keep plucking away.
i brought new racing springs and the rebound bounce was to hard so changed from 1000cst to 600 and they work a treat now just waiting on summer ....them blue ones would be very good for bashing
So with a thicker oil you managed to control the spring rate NICE!
This is just information for those who are unsure of what is what with shocks ect. Hope it helps someone at least.
@@mehimrc1314 yeah kind of i would say.. but would like a softer front pair on ..cant wait for some nice days so can test run we just have mad wind the last two days ...owe it will deffo help someone and as you said the big streamers dont talk about this ;)
@@andyroo8uk685 yeah dude fingers crossed for dryer weather. thanks for the support, i do use different springs front to rear as the motor drops the back end.
@@mehimrc1314 i brought racing shocks and springs (65mm) from bg i am super happy with the rear but fronts are being a pain i got some from modelsport on way so fingers crossed lol..yeah dude love your content man just nice and chilled the way i like it lol ...yeah my 124019 been in bits since december lmao still got to put deans and bullets on the esc lol ...ive done the shocks and put metal spur and harden planet gears on the end of the driveshaft and thats about it lol its this snow and rain thats put me off lol
@@andyroo8uk685 65mm got s set and didn't like them. Springs end up about the same length as those. But still what one doesn't like someone else might. Thanks for the awesome comments to dude much appreciated. Hope to put some fun content out soon.
Wouldn't the weight of the battery be important for this test?
The weight could play a part in it, that's why I used the stock battery as a constant base. Its upto anyone watching to figure the rest out. Great comment dude thanks for sharing your thoughts.
@@mehimrc1314 Oh sorry... didn't see this in the drop videos... must be hidden behind the central car element.
Yeah it's in there haha just the side I used I guess you can't see. Dont be sorry it was a top valid question, I personally like your thinking. All you have to do is increase or decrease rebound on the battery side to compensate for the weight.
@@mehimrc1314 I got 2 stock 144001s and after doing exactly your drop test, I was unfortunately shocked! :(
So I am currently trying to get the proper parts, like different shock oil, to fix this together with my son after his birthday. Your video was a great help, as it doesn't show just some end result, but the experiment, to reach a good result. It gives me an idea, where to go regarding the springs and the fill level.
So I have to thank you for this video!
Well say happy bday to your son from Me Him Rc when the time comes. I'm glad you got what I was intending from this test. I wish you the best of luck with your testing and I hope you and your son have a fantastic time in RC. Thanks for your really supportive and uplifting comments.
Yep def the greens had the wheels planted, they progressively got worst through the colour range.
Excellent man I needed other eyes to confirm this is worthwhile. Amazing how it's still came across considering the frame rates. Thanks for comment and support
Where did you get this spring set from and what were they for?
Don't know what you mean by "what were they for" The spring set was from eBay or you can get them from RCmarti, sorry if there isn't a link RCmarti were snotty so I won't do them anymore favours.
a bit off topic, but what bumper is that?
LC racing short course bumper set. No screw with it you need to supply them. Any question on any video is fine dude. Of topic Is asking how to bake a cake lol not quite RC related haha. Have a good one mate
@@mehimrc1314 cool thanks! that being said.... whats your favorite way to cook a steak...
@@JoshMarrah haha that's off topic but as a man a class, I prefer medium. No blood but not cremated.
What type spring green ?
I use all springs.
@@mehimrc1314 what size ?
@@mehimrc1314 what size spring green ?
Length 30mm