Wltoys 144001/124019 "SUPER" mod Metal differential
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- Welcome back,This is my idea on the 144001/124019 aluminium diff cases. I've spent an entire week dedicated to differentials for these cars.
As all parts are readily available i haven't added any links. You can find them on ebay really quick.
I can only hope this is informative for you guys and gives you all another option for your 144001 or 124019.
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The gears I bought were out of stock so I didnt want to add a link. These seem very similar but the chance is yours if they turn out pot metal. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174349669166
However The diff cases are in stock from the same seller. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174383050529
Nice vehicle, nice video
Awesome
Let's get along with friends with the same hobbies.
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Solid info on building these diff's 👌 much appreciated man.
Thanks dude I've played with so many of these I found a nice configuration, what's better than sharing. Appreciate your comment bro 👍
I’m crying... My mans wearing the thumb!🤣👍🏼 I don’t see it painted though!😉 you leg end bro lmao, hope to see you and Chantelle on our last live before Christmas! Stay safe👊🏼
It's comfy man,I'm not shy to wear my prosthetic thumb. Painting it is a new level though haha. You'll surely hear from us the RCUarmy never misses the stream.
@@mehimrc1314 🤣✌🏼
Great job dude! You did an awesome job explaining how to shim the diffs!
They all turned out slightly different so I hope I managed to explain it clearly not like a fumble bum. Thanks for the comment and support dude.
Nice, thanks for taking the time to figure this stuff out and and share it with us!
Glad it was helpful and its all abit fun
LOCTITE PLEASE !
The plastic original case work VERY GOOD if you upgrade all the metal gears for 8.5€ inc. delivery and if you use loctite.
Using it with 3100 KV monster torque 3650 on 3S since a long time.
Do not forget to use loctite for the screws holding the 2 metal gears + other screws if you use metal case.
NOT using loctite will destroy any diff in only a matter of time, or will destroy the screw after a few maintenances if you apply excessive torque to counter the loctite absence. Clean any oil before applying loctite ! Good loctite + good lithium white grease = Immortal original diff for stock, and immortal upgraded diff for brushless.
Wow nicely put into words bit shouty though calm down for future reference. If you listen closely I do say. I Build it (DRY First) to set my shims. That way I know if its binding to take one out,or if still too sloppy add 0.1mm. Then once I'm happy Rebuild it and using LOCTITE!! Also Sorry if I didnt directly say use loctite,when you Rebuild it as I didn't think people watching would be so clueless. Point noted for next time ok BRO!
Thanks for your comment if people dont watch the entirety of the video. They can always read your wrote out version.
@@mehimrc1314 I like you mate, sorry for my bad english not having all subtilty you have. Trying to help whoever is like me to love better this car and not having trouble with differentials. I have a stock car with stock diff lubricated every 20/30 runs (counting it on paper) with super high quality white grease and so far the diff are ALL OK with more than 150 runs using 2S stock battery . I forgot one day to put loctite on another 144001 and broke the diff gears in less than 3 runs. I am in love with this car, it is super durable when taking care of it and driving it everyday on my backyard dirt track or on asphalt. The upgraded metal gears are amazing, I love it for my brushless monster. Good grease + good loctite = No problemo with the diff ! Problemo ? Upgraded for 8.5€
I bought 8 x 144001 and noticed the original gears have sometime little or bigger default because it is cheap molded and not made using a CNC machine. Usually the default are corrected by the first runs because it grinds itself (in a good way) to purge the excess metal. Having good lube for that moment can help. On 1 car I received, the default was too big and I used my dremel to remove the metal excess on 1 gear inside the diff box. I clean the brand new diff after 10 runs to evacuate the metal parts in the grease. Then I observed with a glass magnifier the next cleanings and there where NO more metal parts found. Good shape even after 100 runs. Now I am no more lubing the diff since 30 runs to see how long it can last with white lithium grease and once dead I will upgrade to CNC gears.
@@bretzeletouffeur7401 not wanting to get into an argument dude but I only share videos on here because a big TH-cam channel wouldn't help with the 144001 when I asked questions. Then after I practically hounded him for help,HE then in the most childish way said and I quote "Where are your videos Me Him"
So I decided to put some videos together on these cars. Sorry if the information isn't 100% on par with massive channels but I'm trying as is to give people something on these cars ect.
I'd be happier taking comments off tbh but I'd rather not. Thanks for all your input much appreciated take care
@@mehimrc1314 Thank you for your nice video, I like it.
Diff gears from the 12428/12423 also work in the 124019/124018/144001
Thanks for sharing. I only changed the cases as I already bought better gears. I say in the video but thanks for the extra gear selection
very nice gears thanks i may get a wltoy 1/12 or 1/14 i use moly grease or red n tacky lucas on and in gears thinning with the best i can buy [Racing]motor oil as needed mostly in the sealed bearing i repack i as a car guy can not get into the clear sillycon grease i have yet to strip a steal diff
Go for the 1/12 scale the extra size really does help with handling and if you swap the rear arms around so the shocks face inward. You get another 5mm in overall length the funkenblitze body I'm doing this year at some point has that adjustments done.
@@mehimrc1314 hey man can you explain what you said in laymens terms? It might be a WLtoys thing but i'm curious if you're talking wheelbase or shock travel/stance?
I'll be receiving a Rlaarlo AM D12 soon so i'm curious for ALL mods/upgrades!
So my stock diffs in the 24019 I bought in December had shims on all 6 points (4 planetary and the 2 orbital/outdrives), while the 'upgraded' metal diffs I bought were bone-dry and had no shims at all. You will 100% have to tear down the new metal units and add shims as both diffs I recieved became 'inoperable' within a few minutes of driving - even though I'd already pulled them apart for a greasing. Without the shims in place to keep everything together the outdrives move apart and you'll hear the sweet sound of gears eating themselves as they just barely touch.
I also went and bought all the metal parts, the top chassis plate/brace is probably the most important because it keeps the diffs and long center shaft perfectly aligned. If you're thinking about 'minor' upgrades, or adding a brushless, get the brace and diffs with the metal housings and keep everything tidy. I went full aluminium on the suspension as well because I kept bending front dogbones with the flexible plastic stock ones.
That's a crazy comment, good and bad points but I don't know what I'm meant to say back. There's no questions just a great comment about the 144 diffs lol. all my parts came separate not as units but if they did I'd be taking them apart.
great , thanks
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nice how would it hold against a 12 of meditative swift walk (10 psi) with around a 3650 of washing plastic around the upper lift columns? (eg. 'tempura' wl casing) ?
I had to shim the outer bearing too to stop the diff rattling around in the housing . Without the shim the diff had about 2mm side to side play which ain't no good for the crown gear .
On the 144 or this 124?
On this build the diff fit perfect with the drive shaft in but the drive shaft is still too long for this 124019. With the drive shaft out the diff does move around in the housing bought the shims already for future needs. But this seems fine atm. Thanks for the comment dude
@@mehimrc1314 it was the 144 . I had an issue with the dog bones fitting too not a length issue but the ball was to big for the cup and wouldn't articulate ( if that's the right word) and would lock up .
@@jayhow997 how the hell did you end up with a dogbone that was too tight for the cup lol. Feel your pain though must of had your head spinning. I'm not having any other issues than the drive shaft being too long.
@@mehimrc1314 I'd lost one and bought spares and the new ones where literally 1mm bigger in diameter. They where the correct ones I double checked and bought another 4 from another place and same thing . Some of the dog bones have a flat end on the ball just needed rounding off an they're perfect.
@@jayhow997 see that's how the cookie crumbles. These diff cases seem good bough of different sellers and both the same quality yet needed different amount of shims. Thanks for the comments dude great info
Great video man, could you tell me what size your shims are? Or perhaps add a link to then in Ali? I've replaced the gears with metal ones and there is some rattling. Hope the shims will do the trick.
So the internal shims are 5×10×0.1 I use different thicknesses but 0.1 you just add more or less to suit your needs. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/0-1mm-THICK-SHIM-WASHERS-HIGH-QUALITY-STEEL-DIN-988-ALL-SIZES-/253288550925?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0
Hi do you think that the diff outside cups are better on those "full metal upgraded diffs" compared with the orignal one? Thanks.
The diff cups were bought separately, they don't come with the metal diff case. When it comes to "upgrades" some parts are the same just labelled as upgraded parts. Ask any seller what the upgrade is, they blank you or give the please read description. Which doesn't answer if the parts is an upgrade. So in my opinion the cups are the same.
Clarty. There's a proper word Ive not heard for a few years for your international viewers. 😀
This comment really made me smile, old expression are the best. Thanks for the comment
@@mehimrc1314 😀 yeah I like your channel mate, great information. I grew up near Newcastle but live down south now so not a word I hear here.
@@nickrobertson2450 well mate if this channel is a home from home then welcome haha. Thanks for the support mate stay safe and thanks for the comments
👍🏻Nice Work🍻
Thanks man, well worth the time to explain the diff crisis haha.
Man I very curious about your thumb, what happened? I know it's not related with the video, if you don't answer I will understand. that diff looks first class.
Hey D. Welcome and you can ask about anything you see in the videos, 👍 included. I had an accident with a rather large circular saw blade. There's a small video titled "thumb tings can really sting" it does come with a warning! And contains pictures.
Those diffs are very nice to look at and go together very well. Thanks for stopping by. Remember asking questions is better then sat wonderin or staring. I appreciate your open approach stay safe and happy bashing.
@@mehimrc1314 Nice man, regards from Spain
Nice dude thank you
Not a problem dude hope it helps.
what diff do you reccommend for MJX Hypergos (16208) I cant find out if the diffs you mentiond for the 144001 would fit the MJX 16208 too. Thanks 🙂
Sorry I can't help bro, I don't own a MJX hypergo. So I couldn't tell you if they would work, maybe another channel can help you on your quest.
@@mehimrc1314 thank 😊
What are the teeths size and bearing size iam looking to by one for my q901
What would you charge to build me a full set of these i would but due to my disability my hands don't articulate properly to do the small details type of work
We'd have to work shipping out but I'd be more than happy to build you a set,cost to you would be parts and shipping. No labour cost as it's part of the hobby for me but clearly a pain in the ass for you. Delivery might take a while depending on what gets arranged.
Great video!! My boy has one of these and full on abuses it (we have fifth scales so he thinks they are all built the same!) where can i find the shims you use please?
Respect to your boy for using the car how it should be. But do let him know they're not built the same as 1/5 scale haha. There's a couple shims, first is 0.3 mm thick. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281759292224
The second shims are 0.1mm thick. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/253288550925
I'd suggest buying both so you don't use 7 × 0.1 bunched on one side. You can use the 0.3 with 2 × 0.1 if you get what I'm meaning
@@mehimrc1314 thanks for the reply I’ll look into them👍
@@naymo1 no problem dude happy bashing
Hey man! I finally got my 124019 , lubed the diffs and took it out with stock everything. Needless to say nobody ever said the front dog bones bend easily. I’m
Gonna see if I can straighten them out but I was surprised.
So is this a yay or nay? I've not had any bend as of yet but I've just got some upgraded cvds Blackened steel apparently. Here's the link dude www.ebay.co.uk/itm/114352294714 could be worth it.
Dare I ask if the body has arrived.
@Me Him Rc the axles bent both right and left front ones. To be fair I hit a light pole the first 2 minutes into my maiden. My right wheel
Must have hit because it popped the adjustable top right rod off and the wheel was laying flat. The left axle was bent at that point and a couple more small crashes the right one wobbles now also. The top right adjustable arm popped off the ball a couple more times when I crashed. I see the dog bones u linked , what’s the difference in those and stock?
And no, everything but the body is arrived. USPS hasn’t updated tracking since the 7th. I contacted them by email but they responded with a Covid blanket statement.
@@revfpv7908 USPS s.o.bs I'm rooting for you dude.
That sounds like a mighty maiden road trip dude,hitting a lamp post will doctors kind of things. I'm guessing the difference is the new ones should be a better steel than stock.
Tie rods popping off in a crash is kinda standard too haha. Glad you posted dude just take it easy when your fixed up.
144001 with a locked diff all stock likes bending and twisting axles guess there alike
@@haatch999 what do you mean dude.
Nice video, can shimming reduce the cups from wobbling? Thx
In some sense yes but not buy much, it mainly save the planetary gear from stripping so easily. The cup size and the diff hole it fits is just that little too wide unfortunately it's wltoys what can be said. Hope this clears your question
Hi mate,
nice works, can you share link for this dif and other stuff i need for do this upgrade ?
Tanks
There all on ebay my friend there's no need for links. Search metal diff case 144001 you find them same as the gears just type in 144001 metal diff gears. I've specifically not put links on this one as anyone can surely find these.
Here a link to the diff cases. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174383050529 the gears are out of stock but I have put a link to some similar gears in the comments.
Whats the thickness of the shims?
0.1 mm thick them you can work your way up if needed
For you sir what best diffs the new or the standard
Just keep things stock, nothing wrong with stock shimmed right that'll last a while.
You’re not doing your viewers any favors by NOT giving links. Where did you find aluminum diff housings? Are the gears pot metal? If so, they don’t last.
I do this for fun,and in the description I say why I haven't put links, these items must be the easiest thing to find out of everything I've found for my subscribers. Ebay 144 metal diff case,,,easy
The ones I bought are out of stock! These look very similar but the chance is yourself they turn out pot metal as you said. Ask nice next time. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174349669166 the diff cases aren't stock from the same seller so heres the link! www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174383050529
Is it possible to add o rings behind that sun gears?
I mean using diff oil to run smoothly
Your trying to seal the diff better, personally an oring won't fit where as a thin gasket could work. Don't think anyone has had that idea yet 🤣 try that instead of o-rings gasket are way thinner.
I've seen that the 104 (⅒ scale) diffs now come with gaskets & o-rings on JohnRobinsonRC.
I'm having doubts that those diffs will fit in the smaller cars, unless modified somehow.
Do u know if the a959b diff will work in the 144001 I bought one from Amazon I thought it would work but looks a little different
Way too small unfortunately sit too far away from the drive shaft pinion and those are pretty small in the a959. Glad you asked rather than taking it apart to to find that out lol..
@Ace's RC's and Reviews nice is there any change is teeth count in the diff or are they the same apart from the cups needing changed.
@Ace's RC's and Reviews shit dude sending love, prayers. Sod the gears but thanks for the info.
Ok where can i get some upgrade diff for my wltoys especially for doing speed runs
eBay, AliExpress these two place 👍
Do I type in upgrade diff for wltoys to find the specific ones
Type in, "wltoys metal diff upgrade" I'm sure within a minute or two you'll find them 🤘
@@mehimrc1314 np thank you sir
Do you have anymore of them fixed up if so how much?
I couldn't sell one due to the nature of the hobby, I've shown how it's done and pretty cheap. Get the parts and have a go it's fun dude.
I have two of these cars did u have problems with your diff
Depends on what your idea of a problem is lol. Not really a problem more trying something new while fixing a problem
Hi I have a lc racing emb1,can I use a wltoys diff for it?
I don't own a emb1 but I'd say NO. They look different so don't risk it. Only some outer parts are interchangeable.
Is there a link to find these exact diffs?
I've pinned the comment you need, the links are both there for gears and cases.
Hi friend, wath is the misure you have used for the upgrade ball bearing in the your new amazing differential?
Heres the link to the bearing. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/362938802401
does the 144001 diff fit the 124017?
It's a direct fit, the 124017 is a brushless version of the 124019 brushed 👍
Hope this helps
@@mehimrc1314 awesome thank you! Do you recommend a metal diff, aluminum, or stock diff? I noticed my diff plates are wearing out but not sure if its best i replace the cups only or the whole diff?
@@RogerDodgerProduxonz I've never had a problem with stock diffs. Just shim the diff closer to the input gear, going to aluminium diffs you'll need shims. 8×11×0.1 if I remember right 🤙
The ring gear looks better quality to me. Are they better than the stock do you think?
dam straight dude they're better in my opinion. Mind I didnt bite one to see if its was any different and I'm not a scientist so could go 100% geek. But yeah dude they seem better.
@@mehimrc1314 Nice! I can't really find any for sale. I mean there's loads in China n that but not here in the UK. Banggood is 15-20 days. Sucks
It's the price we pay unfortunately dude,just have to order,pay then play the waiting game.
@@mehimrc1314 There's a dude on here sells a few bits on ebay he's only in stoke. Here's an item number 274624298109
Without diff oil?
No oil but LOT OF GREASE
Is the tshirt printed in mirror language or is your video reversed?????
The video makes it look mirrored,I must make sure I check that next time lol.
Salut, il s'agit bien de rondelles 3×5×0.1 et 5×8×0.5? Thanks guy
I'm not fluent in French but the (rondelles/washer) size is 5×10×0.5 for the sungear and 2×5×0.1 for planetary gears. Hope this helps
@@mehimrc1314 cool, it's good