Wait, you said Venesaur is great once it's set up, but Arcanine is disappointing because you need to set it up? Even it only needs 1 evolution as opposed to two + you can set it up easily with Moltress Ex? It's even an underrated card in the meta atm. And Mewtwo not in S tier is wild, especially when in the current meta, it's the most used Ex with the highest win rate.
@@WoopTCGarcanine has good tournament results. It’s being built in charizard and moltres decks. It does good against the meta. It’s been doing ALOT better than venusaur, blastoise, gengar,machamp, wigglytuff, and lapras! I thought it was bad too. But it’s fast and hits like a truck. Imo, lapras is the worst. And your overglazing venusaur lol. Grass is mid at best rn . I would put him in between marowak and wigglytuff . And put mewtwo in his current spot
@ I agree that I overlooked arcanine. But venusaur is the most slept on EX and I’ll stand on that. At the end of the day it’s my opinion. Again, 100% agree with arcanine I’d put it like B+ minimum after testing it out more
pretty solid production quality, but seems like you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the meta. if you say you are going to "tell which cards perform the best within the current meta," you explicitly can't look at a card's power in a vacuum. you have to look at it in the context of all of the other cards being used and available. mewtwo & pika were dominant, and pika, starmie, and articuno decks rose in popularity because of how fast they can get going and how they perform against other meta decks. by that, you have to acknowledge that arcanine, despite being bad on paper, excels in the meta because he can also set up very quickly and 120 damage (+10 with giovanni) is enough per turn to deal with some of the most prevalent threats in the current meta. it is all contextual. and while his being reliant on moltres may be worth knocking couple points off, overall there is still a net benefit because at the end of the day arcanine still gets access to a tool to get online faster that other types don't. it is similar to how articuno benefits from misty or pika benefits from pokeball. moltres' existence makes arcanine more dangerous where arcanine might have otherwise just been too slow to be viable. edit: fixed typo/double negatives
@@WoopTCG Bro was more polite to a comment starting with "This video is a meme right?" than to a genuinely well put and thought out comment. The only issue in here that I can find is that you didn't say "tell which cards perform the best within the current meta," in the video, so you can still say it was just your opinion not a meta ranking.
@@astor2994I don’t need someone to explain why I’m wrong when every other comment says the same thing. I get it. And I admitted already that I didn’t realize the potential of arcanine as I didn’t play with it or against it enough. I took the low play rate into account too as a bad card. Apparently not tho. That one “bad take” shouldn’t cost my entire video and I’m upset that it’s the reality. His first sentence commented on my production value. I put a lot into this video. It’s frustrating. I’m moving on
Arcanine EX is quite common in the top of tournaments now. It can one-shot Pika EX for example and does quite well with Moltres. An F-tier card wouldn’t be topping tournaments so frequently. Also Venu above M2 and Moltres? Have you been looking at any tournament results? 🤔
There are a lot of factors in how I rank the cards! A big factor is how well they perform alone. I personally take that into heavy consideration for this ranking. So cards that entirely rely on other cards gets points deducted! I understand arcanine is conveniently making it's ranks a few days after I recorded and edited this video lol. But I still think on it's own, it's an F tier card. With moltres's help, it surely has some legitimate moments. But I honestly don't see the value of a card that you invest an evolution in + 3 energy just to sacrifice due to it's self damage. In high level play I can see it coming in clutch for a quick knock out, but again that just makes the card more situational. It's essentially a backup to the basic charizard deck WHEN?IF charizard isn't working out. You're not going to play that deck prioritizing arcanine over charizard
@ ok, I understand! I would not have ranked them the same, but everyone is free to have their own opinions :) there have been several Arcanine + Moltres decks without Charizard too though in tournaments. Mixning them is very recent since like yesterday.
@@WoopTCG But pokemon don't exist in a vacuum. You'll never get venu set up unless you have a pokemon to stall for it. Does that not count as "entirely rely on other cards"? Pikachu relies on other cards too.
@@stupidhatmanjoshua7640 all cards rely on other cards in some way. But some rely on other cards MORE and if you’re relying on another card WITH RNG… it just doesn’t sit well with me
Arcanine is not F. Arcanine isn't the star of the deck it's best used in. Charcanine Ex has a super high win rate because in the match ups where Charizard is more likely to lose, Arcanine is more suited to win. Is self damage bad? Yes. But I think you're underestimating the early pressure you can have if Moltres gives you a couple good coin flips. I encourage you to try out the Charizard Ex + Arcanine Ex deck.
2 Moltres Ex 2 of each Charmander line (6) 1 Growlithe 2 Arcanine Ex 2 X Speed 2 Pokeball 2 Prof. Research and then any combination of supports and items I personally use: 1 Giovanni - to allow Arcanine to OHKO Zapdos Ex or Starmie Ex 1 Sabrina 1 potion
@@BlueMellow67 no I totally agree. That’s entirely my fault I did not give arcanine enough of a chance for myself and I rarely faced against it. I would likely give it B+ or neutral now that I have tested it out more
Huh, I think this list is absolute bonkers, no offense to the creator of course. 1. Exeggutor being lower ranked than Venasaur is insanity. It sees a ton more play and is a stage 1 that only needs 1 energy to do average 60 damage. The best aggro EX in the game, AND it can live through a Mewtwo ultimate attack. 2. The basic EXs should all be S tier, as they are so good they create balancing issues, honestly. Further, Mewtwo EX and Pikachu EX are probably S+ as they are the most meta defining and overall strongest pokemon, simply due to their power, support, and consistency (as they are basic). 3. Arcanine is great, sometimes better than Charizard itself, as it is more overall less energy intensive and more consistent as a Stage 1. Most likely A Tier, nowhere near F. Weaker than Starmie in most cases, though. 4. ANY Stage 2 EX really should not truly be S tier as they are too inconsistent. Venasaur is probably B to C tier, though probably not as bad as most people think due to Erika support (another issue is that Charizard and Mewtwo EXs both fare VERY well against it, and those are 2 of the 5 most common decks in the game; Charizard can 1 shot it and Mewtwo can 2 shot it even through Erika + potion + attack healing). I think a better question is, which is the WORST EX? Now this is still up for debate.
All valid takes! I personally disagree with all except arcanine. At the time I didn't rank arcanine high enough. I honestly gave it the same treatment as a lot of other low usage EX cards (because at the time of recording it WAS low usage). I would probably put arcanine at mid A tier. I stand by every other ranking on the video tho. Executor is a 2 prize pokemon that has a 50-50 shot of doing either 40 or 80 damage. C is perfect for that imo. Mewtwo is incredibly overrated imo as well (not bad by any means tho). You have to set it up alongside gardi for success which is just too many variables to consider. It might get knocked out before it can have 4 energy attached to it as well. Venusaur is soooo underrated. Yes a slow build up, but once it's fully evolved it is very hard to lose the game. The only real counter to venusaur is charizard because it can one shot. Venusaur turns Mewtwo into a potential 3 shot attacker with gardi in play which says A LOT about its tankiness. Like you said it's all opinion and thats what I have to say about it! As for the worst EX.... probably machamp lol
ALRIGHT YALL after looking into it I was too harsh on arcanine. I didn’t battle with or against it enough to realize it’s potential. All other rankings stand.
This video is a meme right? I find it funny how game knowledge seems to correlate with calling them by the amount of pokemon in the evolution tree (Like calling venusaur and Charizard "Three stage") versus in the TCG the stage indicates the number of evolutions. It shows the lack of experience which clearly shows in rating venusaur over charizard and mewtwo, both decks that would invalidate any amount of healing you could do. But I forget, your deck auto-wins against mewtwo. Because they rely on a stage two. Unlike you. Who relies on a stage 2.
Wait, you said Venesaur is great once it's set up, but Arcanine is disappointing because you need to set it up? Even it only needs 1 evolution as opposed to two + you can set it up easily with Moltress Ex? It's even an underrated card in the meta atm.
And Mewtwo not in S tier is wild, especially when in the current meta, it's the most used Ex with the highest win rate.
Arcanine in f tier is wild
Yeah imma hop off after that 😂
@@georgegomez3856 how 😭
@@WoopTCGarcanine has good tournament results. It’s being built in charizard and moltres decks. It does good against the meta.
It’s been doing ALOT better than venusaur, blastoise, gengar,machamp, wigglytuff, and lapras!
I thought it was bad too. But it’s fast and hits like a truck.
Imo, lapras is the worst. And your overglazing venusaur lol.
Grass is mid at best rn . I would put him in between marowak and wigglytuff . And put mewtwo in his current spot
@ I agree that I overlooked arcanine. But venusaur is the most slept on EX and I’ll stand on that. At the end of the day it’s my opinion. Again, 100% agree with arcanine I’d put it like B+ minimum after testing it out more
bro has the whole arcanine community against him
@@nawuh7919 literally 😭😭😭
pretty solid production quality, but seems like you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the meta.
if you say you are going to "tell which cards perform the best within the current meta," you explicitly can't look at a card's power in a vacuum. you have to look at it in the context of all of the other cards being used and available. mewtwo & pika were dominant, and pika, starmie, and articuno decks rose in popularity because of how fast they can get going and how they perform against other meta decks.
by that, you have to acknowledge that arcanine, despite being bad on paper, excels in the meta because he can also set up very quickly and 120 damage (+10 with giovanni) is enough per turn to deal with some of the most prevalent threats in the current meta. it is all contextual.
and while his being reliant on moltres may be worth knocking couple points off, overall there is still a net benefit because at the end of the day arcanine still gets access to a tool to get online faster that other types don't. it is similar to how articuno benefits from misty or pika benefits from pokeball. moltres' existence makes arcanine more dangerous where arcanine might have otherwise just been too slow to be viable.
edit: fixed typo/double negatives
@@milkdoes I’m not reading all that 😂 it’s just my opinion it ain’t that deep
@@WoopTCG you want people to watch 14 min of your uninformed opinion but can't do a 2 min read? gl on your channel bro
@and I appreciate your support! 🤝
@@WoopTCG Bro was more polite to a comment starting with "This video is a meme right?" than to a genuinely well put and thought out comment.
The only issue in here that I can find is that you didn't say "tell which cards perform the best within the current meta," in the video, so you can still say it was just your opinion not a meta ranking.
@@astor2994I don’t need someone to explain why I’m wrong when every other comment says the same thing. I get it. And I admitted already that I didn’t realize the potential of arcanine as I didn’t play with it or against it enough. I took the low play rate into account too as a bad card. Apparently not tho. That one “bad take” shouldn’t cost my entire video and I’m upset that it’s the reality. His first sentence commented on my production value. I put a lot into this video. It’s frustrating. I’m moving on
@13:26 here you go
Arcanine EX is quite common in the top of tournaments now. It can one-shot Pika EX for example and does quite well with Moltres. An F-tier card wouldn’t be topping tournaments so frequently. Also Venu above M2 and Moltres? Have you been looking at any tournament results? 🤔
There are a lot of factors in how I rank the cards! A big factor is how well they perform alone. I personally take that into heavy consideration for this ranking. So cards that entirely rely on other cards gets points deducted! I understand arcanine is conveniently making it's ranks a few days after I recorded and edited this video lol. But I still think on it's own, it's an F tier card. With moltres's help, it surely has some legitimate moments. But I honestly don't see the value of a card that you invest an evolution in + 3 energy just to sacrifice due to it's self damage. In high level play I can see it coming in clutch for a quick knock out, but again that just makes the card more situational. It's essentially a backup to the basic charizard deck WHEN?IF charizard isn't working out. You're not going to play that deck prioritizing arcanine over charizard
@ ok, I understand! I would not have ranked them the same, but everyone is free to have their own opinions :) there have been several Arcanine + Moltres decks without Charizard too though in tournaments. Mixning them is very recent since like yesterday.
@@Lullefication Gotcha! Yeah that's just my opinion. Maybe it goes along with my playstyle as well :)
@@WoopTCG But pokemon don't exist in a vacuum. You'll never get venu set up unless you have a pokemon to stall for it. Does that not count as "entirely rely on other cards"? Pikachu relies on other cards too.
@@stupidhatmanjoshua7640 all cards rely on other cards in some way. But some rely on other cards MORE and if you’re relying on another card WITH RNG… it just doesn’t sit well with me
Arcanine is not F. Arcanine isn't the star of the deck it's best used in. Charcanine Ex has a super high win rate because in the match ups where Charizard is more likely to lose, Arcanine is more suited to win. Is self damage bad? Yes. But I think you're underestimating the early pressure you can have if Moltres gives you a couple good coin flips. I encourage you to try out the Charizard Ex + Arcanine Ex deck.
2 Moltres Ex
2 of each Charmander line (6)
1 Growlithe
2 Arcanine Ex
2 X Speed
2 Pokeball
2 Prof. Research
and then any combination of supports and items
I personally use:
1 Giovanni - to allow Arcanine to OHKO Zapdos Ex or Starmie Ex
1 Sabrina
1 potion
@@BlueMellow67 no I totally agree. That’s entirely my fault I did not give arcanine enough of a chance for myself and I rarely faced against it. I would likely give it B+ or neutral now that I have tested it out more
Nice viddy love to see some more deck builds with the s-tiers. or maybe challenging to make a deck incorporating the low tiers
@@jacksonwolf34 of course! Definitely gonna be showing off my venusaur deck. I feel like it’s very slept on
Huh, I think this list is absolute bonkers, no offense to the creator of course.
1. Exeggutor being lower ranked than Venasaur is insanity. It sees a ton more play and is a stage 1 that only needs 1 energy to do average 60 damage. The best aggro EX in the game, AND it can live through a Mewtwo ultimate attack.
2. The basic EXs should all be S tier, as they are so good they create balancing issues, honestly. Further, Mewtwo EX and Pikachu EX are probably S+ as they are the most meta defining and overall strongest pokemon, simply due to their power, support, and consistency (as they are basic).
3. Arcanine is great, sometimes better than Charizard itself, as it is more overall less energy intensive and more consistent as a Stage 1. Most likely A Tier, nowhere near F. Weaker than Starmie in most cases, though.
4. ANY Stage 2 EX really should not truly be S tier as they are too inconsistent. Venasaur is probably B to C tier, though probably not as bad as most people think due to Erika support (another issue is that Charizard and Mewtwo EXs both fare VERY well against it, and those are 2 of the 5 most common decks in the game; Charizard can 1 shot it and Mewtwo can 2 shot it even through Erika + potion + attack healing).
I think a better question is, which is the WORST EX? Now this is still up for debate.
All valid takes! I personally disagree with all except arcanine. At the time I didn't rank arcanine high enough. I honestly gave it the same treatment as a lot of other low usage EX cards (because at the time of recording it WAS low usage). I would probably put arcanine at mid A tier. I stand by every other ranking on the video tho. Executor is a 2 prize pokemon that has a 50-50 shot of doing either 40 or 80 damage. C is perfect for that imo. Mewtwo is incredibly overrated imo as well (not bad by any means tho). You have to set it up alongside gardi for success which is just too many variables to consider. It might get knocked out before it can have 4 energy attached to it as well. Venusaur is soooo underrated. Yes a slow build up, but once it's fully evolved it is very hard to lose the game. The only real counter to venusaur is charizard because it can one shot. Venusaur turns Mewtwo into a potential 3 shot attacker with gardi in play which says A LOT about its tankiness. Like you said it's all opinion and thats what I have to say about it!
As for the worst EX.... probably machamp lol
ALRIGHT YALL after looking into it I was too harsh on arcanine. I didn’t battle with or against it enough to realize it’s potential. All other rankings stand.
Lol
Arcanine has the second best winrate, just saying
@@lifewithhonordiewithglory1835 yeah not gonna lie I fumbled it’s ranking
@@WoopTCG venusaur has you high
This video is a meme right? I find it funny how game knowledge seems to correlate with calling them by the amount of pokemon in the evolution tree (Like calling venusaur and Charizard "Three stage") versus in the TCG the stage indicates the number of evolutions. It shows the lack of experience which clearly shows in rating venusaur over charizard and mewtwo, both decks that would invalidate any amount of healing you could do. But I forget, your deck auto-wins against mewtwo. Because they rely on a stage two. Unlike you. Who relies on a stage 2.
thanks for the comment misspeaking goes crazy hope your day isnt ruined lol opinions exist