I feel like it hasnt been A tier in vgc in a while, even when sun was decent this gen Hisuian Lilligant was so much better, it had was decent in the past tho
Did a video about that where this is a Japanese culture problem and them thirsting after little girls. They will alwaaaayyysss make busted crap when it comes to little girls. I pointed out too as a player it's a real coin flip card because it can be an otk but requires good luck. Which can happen... But it'll either feel unearned or won't earn at all. But when ai uses it I guarantee they'll get 4 heads or they just won't draw it at all.
Agreed I've lost games badly to Articuno decks due to Misty's ability to setup quickly and good overall cards from water types. Should also talk about Frostmoth and Vaporeon as those 2 cards are slept on.
@@ilikwaffles-spidermute I agree but that's if you can get em evolved; The problem is omastar is a 3 stage evolution meaning that it will take a few extra turns to set it up if you even have that. Frostmoth is a better option to me as you can get em setup easily but for a less effective ability than omastar but the two of them put together in a deck could be very good.
I protected misty when this game first came out but then I used it and quickly realized it’s a freaking cheat code. The amount of times you just insta win is insane.
@felipefreire4593 the problem with this is that there's almost no opportunity cost for failing. It's not like it cost you mana or tempo to play the card. You fail, you just pretend it didn't happen and continue with your turn as normal.
Mewtwo is deffo s teir. Once setup it hits hard and easy to pilot. Pairing with meowth to draw an extra card is vital to get gardivor stage 2 out. Probably easily at 90% win rate with it. I think the problem I have with the game is that getting the cards you need for the deck is too hard unless I am missing something. So I was lucky to pull pikachu ex and mewtwo ex and build the deck. I have none of the other ex's or basic/stage 1 to make it viable and so limited and stuck on just using the mewtwo deck i have.
Technically, but it is slightly harder to set up. If you have gardevoir it becomes easier bytut gardevoir is a stage 2. It's still q very very good deck, probably the third best in the meta. But top of A tier looks fair to me.
@@moonlight2870 in paper and theory...yeah But In practical... Ppl are not satisfied with it. But yeah starmie+articuno deck could be in the 2nd position with Mew2 but the amount of Pikachu Ex makes it 3rd best.
Finally, a Monday tierlist for pocket! Would love it if you keep these up and do maybe one for non ex, and one for decks? Yeehaw love to watch you as always! Thanks for the content, cowboy! 🤠
Just be good at flipping coins and you will be top tier with Charizard. But indeed he’s not as strong, I started playing him yesterday and he wasn’t as weak as I thought tho. If your opponent is playing a deck with EX, you just need to beat 1 pokemon and you are sure you will kill anything they throw at you and be sure you won’t be One hit KOed, which may grant you another prize point.
I used to be a unite fiend and loved all your content. I stopped playing unite about two years ago but would still stop by for a video here and there. But now my spragles love is back in full force with tcg pocket!!! So excited to be able to watch you again :) much love
Started playing yesterday and got: Venusaur EX, Exeggutor EX, Articuno EX, Gengar EX, Mewtwo EX and Marowak EX. It's nice to know they will come in handy for future deckbuiding.
A friend of mine showed me the app, and it seemed like it was really cool (I've never played pokemon before this point) so he got his irl cards and we played a match. After seeing that fact that you actually open up booster packs I was sold. I used to play yugioh when I was younger and its very reminiscent of the feeling I had with yugioh booster packs. So here I am watching pokemon videos, trying to learn the strategies and what to do/what not to do
@@COA5T It is actually gaming an uneven flip system. Which is incredible, to be honest. Because you are so much more likely to get tails than heads, like 2 tails for every 1 heads I think it is right now Sleep is such a good status effect.
Charizard is a slower playing deck, but it has solid bulk with 2 moltres to get through, that gives you time to get zard out and 6 energy on. The only things that really get through moltres consistently and fast is mewtwo or pika decks.
Misty is strong, but I think it speaks volumes about the OTHER gym leader cards. Blaine? Brock? Surge? WTF are these used for - fringe, B-tier decks? Screw that. We should see them brought to parity: Blaine should boost fire-type damage for a turn, Surge should pull energy from the bench to an active electric-type, and Brock should give energy AND allow damage mitigation for a turn (in-theme with rock/ground-types, a la Harden/Dig/Ancient Power/Wide Guard).
brock would be better if he could give 1 energy to all "fighting" types or at least had a larger pool he could give energy to. marowak would definitely benefit. i like how hes much more consistent then misty but he doesnt have much to use that consistency for.
@@D33STRUCTIV3 this is a gacha card game bro, powercreep is on the way. Wait a bit and you will definitely see trainer cards with these type of effects
I'm a venusar ex/exegcute ex main. 95% win rate. biggest issue is starting with bulbasaur and going first- if I'm up against starting under these conditions it is an auto loss.
Depends. I have a deck that uses Pidgeot's ability pretty well and has 2 Pidgeot lines in it. Going first can be beneficial since I get to evolve Pidgeotto before they get a chance to evolve and still be able to attack since it takes 1 energy while getting me closer to my stage 2 evolution quicker than the opponent. Also, Mankey benefits too since it can get damaged and evolve right away. I understand these are edge cases, but it works for them.
Interesting breakdown. I agree Misty is broken asf lol. I feel it should have been made like flip 3 coins and attach a water energy for each heads to your Starmie since thats her base game main pokemon. maybe even a lapras since she has one in later games.
I would also add a side note for Machamp is that if you're getting all the stages in the first hand to do that early damage chain, Red card will 100% ruin that
I think machamp is pretty alright because it could oneshot Starmy with a Giovanie and pikachu without and is only a turn slower than them> To bad it is also in one shot range of Mewtwo + Giovanie
If it just had 10 more attack it would be a lot more threatening with giovanni (ohko birds ect), so for the sake of 10 atk it is still a decent card. I have a machamp and marowak Ex deck and it does the job.
I watched this video last night and excitedly went and crafted two Misty cards. Put them in a powerful water deck. Since then, I have used the Misty card a total of 42 times in battle. I kept up with the data. 38 of them were tails on the first coin flip. 2 of them got heads, and then tails. Only 2 got more than one heads. Therefore: 38/42 times (Tails immediately): ~90.48% 2/42 times (1 head, then tails): ~4.76% 2/42 times (2 or more heads, then tails): ~4.76% And even if we just counted the number of times it was either heads or tails: Tails: ~90.48% Heads: ~9.52% The card sucks.
I think Char is being massively underrated, Moltres can fill this guy up with energy so it can easily Crimson storm 3 times, as long as you get to that point (which is honestly not that hard unless your hand bricks hard), you can bring Char in, take a kill and then guarantee that you win the 1v1 no matter what comes in. This basically guarantees that Charizard will always take 2 KO's if he's properly set up, agaisn't most decks, there is just genuenly nothing the oponent can do as long as you properly play around Sabrina
I really like my marowak deck... would love it if I wasnt getting 2 tails every single damn turn, meanwhile my opponent is getting 3 heads in a row, idk why in the world they made this card like this instead of just saying u do 80 dmg and if u get 2 heads u do an additional 80, I swear the amount of cards that rely on coin flips make this game more rng based then card based
Very good tierlist, I think it is the best one I have seen so far. My only nitpick is that Mewtwo should be S tier, but you did address it. Also props to not underselling Exeggutor EX unlike some other tierlists. To me it is the lowest A tier EX or high B tier. It is for sure a flawed EX, but with a bunch of upsides as well.
I have tried probably 25 times and still can’t beat the “Expert Starmie EX and Greninja deck” that has SEVERAL articuno, misty, starmie, and greninja that have an amazing ability. It’s actually absurd how OP that combo is.
@@d2dwizard198 it is annoying especially with how the rng always seems to be in favor of the bot. But yeah, we'll have to zap them with their weakness and quick charged mons for more sure win.
@@jeysats not really tho sometimes the rng does pretty much random moves that when I'm already at 2 points, the opponent swaps out from his almost full health starmie to another low health pokemon which I could one hit KO so that I won eventually
Im trying to pull cards for a pikachu deck, pulled like 4 arcanine ex’s so its my current f2p deck. Not terrible per se but def feels like that 20 self damage can really screw you over. Tho that free moltres you get from premium made me gravitate towards fire. For a new player arcanine can put in work :)
I’m really new, and I faced my first water deck opponent, and was confused on how he got 4+ energy in one turn. Nice to know he wasn’t CHEATING! Had me mad ash when I saw that
Considering the success chance for Misty to actually work, I really don't agree with Misty being god tier. Pikachu can do the same thing, but with arguably far more consistent set up in 2 turns (similar to Articuno). To put it this way, in order for Articuno to get all three energy it needs turn one, you'd multiply out the probabilities of success (landing on a heads to keep the streak going). This would mean we are doing 0.5 x 0.5 x0.5, which equals .125, or a 12.5% chance of that happening. Contrast this to Pikachu, that not only does more damage with TWO energy (90 vs 80), Fighting Type (as you mention) is virtually non-existent because of Mewtwo. Further, it's incredibly easy to stack your deck with easy to pull basic stage Electric mons that you can throw out on the bench as soon as turn 1 or 2, which by that point, you'd have the energy you need start doing a full 90 damage. Even at 60, you're still going to hit MOST of the meta in 2 hits, or prevent their set up. The only notable exception to this is with Mewtwo, where the difference between a full bench or 2 mons in the bench is a 3HKO, or a 2HKO, but this is the same Articuno, and if you fail on energy rolls with Misty, you're in a worse spot compared to Pikachu. The reality is the Mewtwo (in conjunction with Gardevoir) is the real God tier card. That meta is absurdly oppressive and it's what is creating this rapid dash (pun not intended) towards effectively winning the game in 2-3 turns. Arguably, If Mewtwo gets nerfed, the next problem child is, imo, Pikachu. EVEN if Pikachu and Mewtwo sets up BOTH get nerfed, I don't see a world where suddenly Articuno becomes the meta because of Misty's potential high roll. I'd probably argue the best way to fix misty is either one of two things: 1. Attach 1 water energy to mon of your choice, and then flip a coin. If heads, grant 1 additional water energy. 2. Flip 2 coins. You get one water energy per heads that appears. This rewards high risk and high reward, and keeps to the cards playstyle, Further its arguably still strictly better than Brock (as it allows you to choose ANY water mon vs specific Onix/Golem). 3. Combine them and choose (either choose ONE water energy, or flip two coins).
I had people quitting, when their misty failed on articuno and its crazy how many times it happens hahaha. But i feel that. I run a pickachu-zapdos deck with jolteon and electrode support. If pikachu fails, i got zapdos mainly as a bench-bro or fighting type coverage and electrodes as emergency damage dealer and meat shields and jolteon for a late game sweep. Its not always easy to get the jolt out, but i rarely lost when i managed to pull it off. Also it saved my bacon in several matchs where i was unlucky and didnt draw a single ex The deck that makes ME shit my pants is the mewtwo-gardevoir-hypno combo. Never won against that, when they got these 3 out together
Moltres realy deserve a S tier for me, he realy realy strong, no evolution need, and work soo well with all the other fire type. Even if hes attack have some lucky base, you often get at least 1 or 2 energie and that all u need for working well. the fact that he have eletricity weakness is fine because he can still survive a pikachu EX attack and still die to raichu even without weakness And for me, i would say that charizard deserve a place on A tier because of Moltres that push him realy well. Charizar right now is the only one that can take every single other attack for the game and 1 shot enemis back, and for that i think he deserve more even if the lvl 1 and 2 pokemon suck pretty hard, a mean the pokemon would be overpower if the other lvl was at the same lvl of him I think u realy underestimate fire deck over all, that the first deck a make and i win soo many match even against bad match up like water. Fire deck set up better than psy deck and the luck base with Moltres will be more often in ur side that against u (It's not like it's a 50%/50% just hiting 1 or 2 time can make u win the game) ps : sorry if my english is bad, i'm not english ^^
I have a deck with two wigglytuff, a Kangaskhan (for potential round 1 KOs and as a transition for my Wigglytuff) and a Fearow. Certainly is no where close to being a strong deck, but it is sooo fun to play. When played well every game becomes close.
Zard is very rough, I agree. The four big matchups every deck has to care about are Pika Staryu/Water Mewtwo Marowak All of these deck do good damage fast and will therefore kill the moltres quickly, and then even if you have a zard in play, you hit them once and then they Sabrina you and kill a benched mon for the game. Because it has to give up a 2 prizer early into all the really important matchups, it cant make use of that massive 180HP
@Siennarchist the advantages of charizard EX deck over mewtwo EX deck are its higher bulk (survives mewtwo EX's 150 hp attack) and higher damage (can ohko stage 2 EX). In a faceoff between the two, charizard EX deck should be slightly favoured but it depends who draws their engine better. If the guy doesn't draw both mewtwo EX, he will lose if the charizard EX ko the 1st mewtwo EX.
I stopped stacking my bench. 2 pokemon go on my bench MAX and once 2 are knocked charizard goes last so you can't sabrina it and cheese the win over my stacked charizard. The only issue i have is NOT having moltres EX
I've played 18 trainer Articuno games where my opponent will concede immediately if they don't stack 3 energy on their Articuno. I don't understand why they are even playing the game.
There should be some downside to losing, or at least for conceding early. Like if you concede 3 games before turn 3 you should have to have a cool down or something.
To me it's insane you put misty in god tier, and yet put the repeatable similar effect, with higher success chance, that also tanks two hits into the A tier. Moltress is high S, and recent tournament results further cement how insane the card is
I think you might be sleeping on Arcanine a little bit. The one energy lower requirement than Char means you can ramp into 120 damage really quickly, and I think once the meta stops being dominated by big blasters, he’ll really shine
Why would it stop being big blasters? Mewtwo/gard is very tough to stop if they can stall you, pika is insane damage at just 2 energy, and ofc water decks can just pop off at a moments notice. I don't see these big 3 going anywhere.
Misty is F tier for me. My friend said (and I agree) that I spent all my luck on pokemon for card packs. Because I got almost 2 binders of immersives and ex cards, but for two weeks, I got 0 energy from misty
Going against a Machamp that gets upgraded each turn is pretty demoralizing (especially when it's in the final tier of solo challenges haha). I'm curious if it will get more play with the new mankey promo card.
New player here. Had Misty used on me twice and was like I need it. Ever since I got it, I've only EVER gotten 1 energy. And that was 33% of the time. Every other time its been tails first. they definitely nerfed the flip rate for the release
The marowak one was true because I had one of the most craziest matches with it. Like I was fighting against a Mewtwo and I got 8 tails in a row, so the opponent had a lot of time to setup their Mewtwo, but the moment that Mewtwo became active, my Marowak rolled two heads and it one shot that Mewtwo. Like I got 4 heads continuously, first it eliminated Kangaskhan, then took down mewtwo
nearly smashed my phone a few times thanks to double tails but when it hits (even once), it's great. I have Sandslash as a backup for quick 2 energy 70 damage and there have been games that I intentionally retreated marowak ex to get guaranteed fixed damage lol
Tbh 1 month later your tiers list was pretty accurate, you were a little bit overhype by venusaur and charizard should be in A tiers but it’s a good tiers list. Except for arcanine he is somewhere between A tiers and B tiers, C tiers is wild ( i'll say A tiers but that’s just me)
One thing that I think people should take in to account is solo battles. A card like Ditto is absolutely useless in competetive, but in solo battles, you can in theory use it to counter fast Mons like Starmie for cheap.
Blastoise doing 100 for only 3 while not sacrificing an energy makes it A Tier for me personally. Especially with Misty being able to potentially load him up almost instantly.
Putting Venusaur in A and Char in B is absolutely wild when Venusaur needs 4 energy to do 100 and Char needs 4 to OHKO anything in the format Plus Char has more consistent ramp with Moltres and bulkier mons to soak damage until it's ready to go. Venusaur is such a casual deck, fun but not a threat
No I 100 percent agree with the Misty commentary. The second time I went about against this card in PVP, it gave their Blastoise or Articuno 6 effing energy.
idk if its the same for the TGC, but I really wish they rework the turn to first turn u can place energy but cant attack, and maybe cant use trainer cards too, idk if that would be balanced
Actually arcanine ex is the speedy version of the fire deck, coupled with moltres it get set up as fast as the 4th turn. Its almost like pika ex, it has bigger dmg but doesn't last as long.
Gengar's ability is great but not for a Pokémon that takes so long to set up, by the time you use it the opponent may have already used most of their supports 16:05
I'm on the part of the globe that gets their tierlists on Tuesdays. And don't get me started on the pink Thursdays. Yep, it's a real madhouse 'round here.. Real madhouse I tell ya..
I think the main problem with Zard is not requiring 4 energies to attack or even that it discards 2. The main problem is that is a stage two and if your Charmeleons or Zard are at the bottom you are simply too slow but that is a problem that affects all Stage 2 mons. I kind of wish they add a great ball to search for stage one and or ultra ball to search for stage 2 something like that. As of now I feel basic mons or some stage 1 will dominate the meta you already see Pika EX and Mewtwo EX winning tournaments.
The problem with misty, is how turn 1 works in this game. Normaly the 1st person play, and cannot use support. The 2nd guy can use support and gain energy but cannot attack. Right know except if u have a big support trainer to play, being 1st isn't a good thing
50/50 per coin flip 2 coins 1/4 chance of no damage 3/4 to do 80 damage per turn Yeah I'll take my chances Marrowak deserves at least high-A tier Who else agrees?
I use Arcanine for fast end game.. Rapidash as tank ( cheap cost for attack and retreat ) I'll will use every trick to prevent opponent bringing B+ cards , so far so good... about -20hp after attacking not a big issue.
i think they should very rarely almost never buff or nerf cards, but cards i think are so broken that NEED to be changed or nerfed is starmie ex without a doubt, and i think pikachu ex shouldnt get the hammer since the whole idea is a rush blitz build, so i think a simple -10 hp or makin the retreat from 1 to 2
Misty can give you 9 energy, but the probabilities are low. We remember it most when it works, but it is good to average MOST of the time. The probability of giving 1 energy is 50%. 2, is 25%. Higher than that and the chances are less than 15%. 4 energy, which is OP, only happens 6% of the time. It is an awesome card, but I think of it like "the card that gives you 0 to 2 energy"
I don't get why put a really RNG dependant card on God tier, like it's good when it works but it's still just luck and you have to use water Pokemon, unlike Sabrina who works everytime and can be used on any kind of deck.
It is ridiculous how every other trainer card has restrictions except Misty… and Erika. Misty gets a lot of the attention due to the really good water Pokémon and of course, in the history of gaming, people LOVE doing damage fast. There is always an abundance of people who wanna be the damage dealer and not the healer/tank… Enter grass Pokémon with Venusaur, Butterfree, x2 potions, and x2 Erika. It’s not flashy. It’s slow, but man unless you’re dealing high damage consistently, they’re going to outlast you. Ultimately, I think it’s just what is available. Water have high damage units that can get online fast. Ironically though, the best deck is the Pika deck that comes online faster (pending coin flips and draws) and deals bonus damage. I don’t know if the answer is change/nerf or wait and see how the game evolves.
My problem with Misty is that she can make any water mon that needs high energy to perform an instant A/A+ tier. There should be a rule; only one Misty allowed per deck. This way, you at least have to use it strategically.
Question: I have always looked at the "Stage 1" on the card as referring to the first stage pokemon in the picture directly below the words. Example: on Starmie it shows Staru with the words "Stage 1" above Staru. Does it not make more sense to say that Staru is the stage 1 in the evolution, and Starmie is actually Stage 2?
The problem with fire is everything discards energy to do high but not critical damage for way too many energy requiring moltres to ramp up because if not you have no chance of getting 4 energy on centiscortch or charizard ex. Flareon doesn’t quite knock anything out for the same gambit with 3 energy and good luck with 2 energy ninetails knocking something out without getting yeeted first. If you do manage to get one of them going once it dies you wasted all your energy keeping it out unless you got good moltres rolls and can use two charizard heat clases getting 5 energy on him before bringing him out. Feels like it’s the same deck as mewtwo ex but more conditional and if moltres had an ability from the bench to flip 2 coins instead of 3 and add an energy for each it would be a really strong deck but it having to be actively out there with a 2 retreat cost. Basically the deck suffers from needed too many energy from your pool.
Its not an EX using deck, but honestly, i love the Koga deck over anything else. I have the most success with it, and, I've gotten people to quit with the Weezing retreat lol
Misty either hits 4 energy or it's a complete dud. But absolutly funny when it hits 4 times and the opponent scoops. Busted card for sure. It should errada to flip 2 coins attach a water energy for each heads. It would still be a strong card as it would mean 50% of the time you get 1 extra energy attachment. Flipping tails on the first coin doesn't feel as bad and I wouldn't be able to completely ready a Articuno or Blastiose with a single card.
Not only Brock and Lt Surge, Blaine and Koga are also very specific. However what about if instead of nerfing Misty (which I agree is probably the most broken card in the game) they buff the other trainer so any type has a broken card. At least everyone have fun and not only water 🤣
If Misty was just for Lapras, Golduck, and Starmie, I think it would be ok. Very strong but not broken. Enabling t1 Articuno is not healthy for the game and instant pop offs for stuff like kingler and blastoise is pretty much gg
Coming from other games, it's pretty amusing to see a tier list this easily agreeable on. Pocket is rightfully very easy to understand it seems. Misty sucks tho. Like she is so bad for the state of the game right now
Hey I think you might be slightly wrong on char. For him the real weakness is electric because char only come out at 5 or 6 energy to sweep your tank/ramp is moltres
played against a marowak for the first time, read its attack, thought it was broken, and then he flipped double tails 3 times in a row causing me to win
10/10 times I get tails first with misty
Haha same
its 100% NOT 50/50. ive gotten 3 water energy 1 time . 99% fail first flip
Same here! I’ve used her many times and the most I’ve got was 1 energy at a time. It’s usually 0 energy
Then why did you feel the need to put her in this video? @@spragelsPocket
@@Xuhtig cause she is still busted regardless
Ah, Venusaur, A tier in Unite, A Tier in Pocket, A tier in most VGC metas. Perfectly balanced as all things should be
Perfect for you Shruggz
as one of the few that chose bulbasaur in red/blue I'm happy my boy gets loves
Same, I love my bulby, my fav starter. Let the tank wreck
and F tier in every TCG format 😢
I feel like it hasnt been A tier in vgc in a while, even when sun was decent this gen Hisuian Lilligant was so much better, it had was decent in the past tho
25:38 throwback to me getting 11 water energies with one misty
I’ve got 9 before. Very funny
i saw someone got 13 LOL
@@salmoncashew1785 meanwhile me with my alakazam deck *rubs hands menacingly
@@ridhowirasembada151 thats literally 0.01% so 1 in 10k🫣
Alakazam gonna have a FEAST with this one 😭 @@13ballom
Misty being god tier is hilarious considering the amount of people that get screwed over by it flipping tails turn 1😂
She's a fickle god
I have been using misty since I’ve got her (day 2) and have NEVER gotten more than 2 heads.
@@sethlopez8287I got 7 heads when I needed just one
@Devantemoore but when you pull it off when you're going first and you shouldn't even be getting 1 energy and can suddenly attack? Busted
Its funny the guy got her first 2 turns and tails on both, and conceded
I NEVER turn Head on that Misty card NEVER
Did a video about that where this is a Japanese culture problem and them thirsting after little girls. They will alwaaaayyysss make busted crap when it comes to little girls. I pointed out too as a player it's a real coin flip card because it can be an otk but requires good luck. Which can happen... But it'll either feel unearned or won't earn at all. But when ai uses it I guarantee they'll get 4 heads or they just won't draw it at all.
Agreed I've lost games badly to Articuno decks due to Misty's ability to setup quickly and good overall cards from water types. Should also talk about Frostmoth and Vaporeon as those 2 cards are slept on.
Ok, I understand frosmoth, but OMASTAR is crazy
@@ilikwaffles-spidermute I agree but that's if you can get em evolved; The problem is omastar is a 3 stage evolution meaning that it will take a few extra turns to set it up if you even have that. Frostmoth is a better option to me as you can get em setup easily but for a less effective ability than omastar but the two of them put together in a deck could be very good.
@@Jman-lh3ll this is true but throw Butterfree in a omastar-poliwrath deck and it's really sttong
I protected misty when this game first came out but then I used it and quickly realized it’s a freaking cheat code. The amount of times you just insta win is insane.
It really is dumb sometimes
50% of the time it will give you nothing
@@felipefreire4593Doesn't matter because then it's just like an evo that you can't use, but if she gives you 3 energy, it wins you the entire game
@felipefreire4593 the problem with this is that there's almost no opportunity cost for failing. It's not like it cost you mana or tempo to play the card. You fail, you just pretend it didn't happen and continue with your turn as normal.
@@astrohawke4527 i agree, it is very strong. But people talk like every misty = instant win
Nice tierlist but for me all relate to "attack does this damage according to number of heads" is a f tier😂
If it's not 100% accurate, it's 50% accurate 🤣
Mewtwo is deffo s teir. Once setup it hits hard and easy to pilot.
Pairing with meowth to draw an extra card is vital to get gardivor stage 2 out.
Probably easily at 90% win rate with it.
I think the problem I have with the game is that getting the cards you need for the deck is too hard unless I am missing something. So I was lucky to pull pikachu ex and mewtwo ex and build the deck. I have none of the other ex's or basic/stage 1 to make it viable and so limited and stuck on just using the mewtwo deck i have.
Technically, but it is slightly harder to set up. If you have gardevoir it becomes easier bytut gardevoir is a stage 2. It's still q very very good deck, probably the third best in the meta. But top of A tier looks fair to me.
@@moonlight2870it's the 2nd best in the meta after Pikachu... Just use 2 guard and 2 Mewtwo ex nothing else
It's very consistent
@@Hey_i_am_A-D misty is arguably better than mewtwo ex
@@moonlight2870 in paper and theory...yeah
But In practical... Ppl are not satisfied with it.
But yeah starmie+articuno deck could be in the 2nd position with Mew2 but the amount of Pikachu Ex makes it 3rd best.
I always defeat mewtwo with weezing deck
Finally, a Monday tierlist for pocket! Would love it if you keep these up and do maybe one for non ex, and one for decks? Yeehaw love to watch you as always! Thanks for the content, cowboy! 🤠
And one for trainer cards and one for card arts too
@@M_M386 Yes!
First content creator with the Poke-balls to say, with all honesty, that Chari deck is bad. Respect.
I don’t love it tbh
We got a lot of hate for rating Charizard low on our tier list 😂
I couldn't agree more. Those Moltres flips hate me so much.
@@spragelsPocket nah, Pika is mid tho
Just be good at flipping coins and you will be top tier with Charizard.
But indeed he’s not as strong, I started playing him yesterday and he wasn’t as weak as I thought tho.
If your opponent is playing a deck with EX, you just need to beat 1 pokemon and you are sure you will kill anything they throw at you and be sure you won’t be One hit KOed, which may grant you another prize point.
I used to be a unite fiend and loved all your content. I stopped playing unite about two years ago but would still stop by for a video here and there. But now my spragles love is back in full force with tcg pocket!!! So excited to be able to watch you again :) much love
Bruh.. same... i give up on unite when zacian came out, unite lose all the fun when this power poke came out. But tcgp gives me hope again.
Dude, mewtwo+gardevoir is literally an automatic game over for the other guy
I'm missing one gardevoir for that deck..
@@dejnou6012 I had to create the second one. But I got it and is bogus
@@dejnou6012 buy that with 150 points... Just like I did
Getting guardi online is just insta win
@@dejnou6012I hope you never get it 🤷🏿♂️ tired of seeing that deck
@@Purplenirvanaa I believe is more "fair" than landing 6 times heads with misty. That is literally luck
Started playing yesterday and got: Venusaur EX, Exeggutor EX, Articuno EX, Gengar EX, Mewtwo EX and Marowak EX. It's nice to know they will come in handy for future deckbuiding.
A friend of mine showed me the app, and it seemed like it was really cool (I've never played pokemon before this point) so he got his irl cards and we played a match. After seeing that fact that you actually open up booster packs I was sold. I used to play yugioh when I was younger and its very reminiscent of the feeling I had with yugioh booster packs. So here I am watching pokemon videos, trying to learn the strategies and what to do/what not to do
Cool
Charizard ex is ment to be used in conjunction with some form of energy acceleration to get the most out of him like moltres ex attack.
Yes correct
Wiggly/Weezing is crushing everything above it. Well, maybe not Starmie because it's literally too powerful.
@@COA5T It is actually gaming an uneven flip system. Which is incredible, to be honest. Because you are so much more likely to get tails than heads, like 2 tails for every 1 heads I think it is right now Sleep is such a good status effect.
I like the hidden reveal at the end. Very well done, made me laugh.
i had to do it
Great video! Would love to see an update now that the meta's had more time to develop!
Charizard is a slower playing deck, but it has solid bulk with 2 moltres to get through, that gives you time to get zard out and 6 energy on. The only things that really get through moltres consistently and fast is mewtwo or pika decks.
Hell even with one Moltres ex you still pretty good
@TheDragonstorm1993YT typically you can get a Charizard set up with 1, but with bad coin flips and/or an aggro deck you might need 2
@@colorado_offroad_lv trying to get my second Moltres now😓
@TheDragonstorm1993YT if only trading was a thing right now lmao, I'd give you one
@@colorado_offroad_lv appreciated💀
Misty is strong, but I think it speaks volumes about the OTHER gym leader cards. Blaine? Brock? Surge? WTF are these used for - fringe, B-tier decks? Screw that. We should see them brought to parity: Blaine should boost fire-type damage for a turn, Surge should pull energy from the bench to an active electric-type, and Brock should give energy AND allow damage mitigation for a turn (in-theme with rock/ground-types, a la Harden/Dig/Ancient Power/Wide Guard).
brock would be better if he could give 1 energy to all "fighting" types or at least had a larger pool he could give energy to. marowak would definitely benefit. i like how hes much more consistent then misty but he doesnt have much to use that consistency for.
@@D33STRUCTIV3 this is a gacha card game bro, powercreep is on the way. Wait a bit and you will definitely see trainer cards with these type of effects
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Love the content Jake, keep up the great work!
Appreciate it!
I'm a venusar ex/exegcute ex main. 95% win rate. biggest issue is starting with bulbasaur and going first- if I'm up against starting under these conditions it is an auto loss.
The game is good but going first is WAY too much of a disadvantage if you’re not playing Misty.
Depends. I have a deck that uses Pidgeot's ability pretty well and has 2 Pidgeot lines in it. Going first can be beneficial since I get to evolve Pidgeotto before they get a chance to evolve and still be able to attack since it takes 1 energy while getting me closer to my stage 2 evolution quicker than the opponent.
Also, Mankey benefits too since it can get damaged and evolve right away.
I understand these are edge cases, but it works for them.
Interesting breakdown. I agree Misty is broken asf lol. I feel it should have been made like flip 3 coins and attach a water energy for each heads to your Starmie since thats her base game main pokemon. maybe even a lapras since she has one in later games.
I would also add a side note for Machamp is that if you're getting all the stages in the first hand to do that early damage chain, Red card will 100% ruin that
I think machamp is pretty alright because it could oneshot Starmy with a Giovanie and pikachu without and is only a turn slower than them>
To bad it is also in one shot range of Mewtwo + Giovanie
Yo
Hè dies anyway because its weak to psichic
(Also nice pfp)
If it just had 10 more attack it would be a lot more threatening with giovanni (ohko birds ect), so for the sake of 10 atk it is still a decent card. I have a machamp and marowak Ex deck and it does the job.
I watched this video last night and excitedly went and crafted two Misty cards. Put them in a powerful water deck.
Since then, I have used the Misty card a total of 42 times in battle. I kept up with the data.
38 of them were tails on the first coin flip. 2 of them got heads, and then tails. Only 2 got more than one heads. Therefore:
38/42 times (Tails immediately): ~90.48%
2/42 times (1 head, then tails): ~4.76%
2/42 times (2 or more heads, then tails): ~4.76%
And even if we just counted the number of times it was either heads or tails:
Tails: ~90.48%
Heads: ~9.52%
The card sucks.
@@vellichor7676 you’re lying on a mobile pokemon game TH-cam tier list video
pathetic lmfao
flick a da wrist
I think Char is being massively underrated, Moltres can fill this guy up with energy so it can easily Crimson storm 3 times, as long as you get to that point (which is honestly not that hard unless your hand bricks hard), you can bring Char in, take a kill and then guarantee that you win the 1v1 no matter what comes in.
This basically guarantees that Charizard will always take 2 KO's if he's properly set up, agaisn't most decks, there is just genuenly nothing the oponent can do as long as you properly play around Sabrina
I played a misty deck for a few games and never got more than 2 energy out of her at one time.
I really like my marowak deck... would love it if I wasnt getting 2 tails every single damn turn, meanwhile my opponent is getting 3 heads in a row, idk why in the world they made this card like this instead of just saying u do 80 dmg and if u get 2 heads u do an additional 80, I swear the amount of cards that rely on coin flips make this game more rng based then card based
Very good tierlist, I think it is the best one I have seen so far. My only nitpick is that Mewtwo should be S tier, but you did address it.
Also props to not underselling Exeggutor EX unlike some other tierlists. To me it is the lowest A tier EX or high B tier. It is for sure a flawed EX, but with a bunch of upsides as well.
I have tried probably 25 times and still can’t beat the “Expert Starmie EX and Greninja deck” that has SEVERAL articuno, misty, starmie, and greninja that have an amazing ability. It’s actually absurd how OP that combo is.
What deck you use?
@ I finally beat it, I pulled a Zapdos EX and it carried me through that one.
@@d2dwizard198 Just use Pikachu EX with Zapidos. Easy work.
@@d2dwizard198 it is annoying especially with how the rng always seems to be in favor of the bot. But yeah, we'll have to zap them with their weakness and quick charged mons for more sure win.
@@jeysats not really tho
sometimes the rng does pretty much random moves that when I'm already at 2 points, the opponent swaps out from his almost full health starmie to another low health pokemon which I could one hit KO so that I won eventually
Im trying to pull cards for a pikachu deck, pulled like 4 arcanine ex’s so its my current f2p deck. Not terrible per se but def feels like that 20 self damage can really screw you over. Tho that free moltres you get from premium made me gravitate towards fire. For a new player arcanine can put in work :)
I’m really new, and I faced my first water deck opponent, and was confused on how he got 4+ energy in one turn. Nice to know he wasn’t CHEATING! Had me mad ash when I saw that
Considering the success chance for Misty to actually work, I really don't agree with Misty being god tier. Pikachu can do the same thing, but with arguably far more consistent set up in 2 turns (similar to Articuno).
To put it this way, in order for Articuno to get all three energy it needs turn one, you'd multiply out the probabilities of success (landing on a heads to keep the streak going). This would mean we are doing 0.5 x 0.5 x0.5, which equals .125, or a 12.5% chance of that happening. Contrast this to Pikachu, that not only does more damage with TWO energy (90 vs 80), Fighting Type (as you mention) is virtually non-existent because of Mewtwo. Further, it's incredibly easy to stack your deck with easy to pull basic stage Electric mons that you can throw out on the bench as soon as turn 1 or 2, which by that point, you'd have the energy you need start doing a full 90 damage. Even at 60, you're still going to hit MOST of the meta in 2 hits, or prevent their set up. The only notable exception to this is with Mewtwo, where the difference between a full bench or 2 mons in the bench is a 3HKO, or a 2HKO, but this is the same Articuno, and if you fail on energy rolls with Misty, you're in a worse spot compared to Pikachu.
The reality is the Mewtwo (in conjunction with Gardevoir) is the real God tier card. That meta is absurdly oppressive and it's what is creating this rapid dash (pun not intended) towards effectively winning the game in 2-3 turns. Arguably, If Mewtwo gets nerfed, the next problem child is, imo, Pikachu. EVEN if Pikachu and Mewtwo sets up BOTH get nerfed, I don't see a world where suddenly Articuno becomes the meta because of Misty's potential high roll.
I'd probably argue the best way to fix misty is either one of two things:
1. Attach 1 water energy to mon of your choice, and then flip a coin. If heads, grant 1 additional water energy.
2. Flip 2 coins. You get one water energy per heads that appears. This rewards high risk and high reward, and keeps to the cards playstyle, Further its arguably still strictly better than Brock (as it allows you to choose ANY water mon vs specific Onix/Golem).
3. Combine them and choose (either choose ONE water energy, or flip two coins).
I had people quitting, when their misty failed on articuno and its crazy how many times it happens hahaha. But i feel that.
I run a pickachu-zapdos deck with jolteon and electrode support.
If pikachu fails, i got zapdos mainly as a bench-bro or fighting type coverage and electrodes as emergency damage dealer and meat shields and jolteon for a late game sweep. Its not always easy to get the jolt out, but i rarely lost when i managed to pull it off. Also it saved my bacon in several matchs where i was unlucky and didnt draw a single ex
The deck that makes ME shit my pants is the mewtwo-gardevoir-hypno combo. Never won against that, when they got these 3 out together
I can't wait for this game to come out, you know, without moving to New Zealand. Zapdos is weak to electric, lol.
Moltres realy deserve a S tier for me, he realy realy strong, no evolution need, and work soo well with all the other fire type. Even if hes attack have some lucky base, you often get at least 1 or 2 energie and that all u need for working well. the fact that he have eletricity weakness is fine because he can still survive a pikachu EX attack and still die to raichu even without weakness
And for me, i would say that charizard deserve a place on A tier because of Moltres that push him realy well. Charizar right now is the only one that can take every single other attack for the game and 1 shot enemis back, and for that i think he deserve more even if the lvl 1 and 2 pokemon suck pretty hard, a mean the pokemon would be overpower if the other lvl was at the same lvl of him
I think u realy underestimate fire deck over all, that the first deck a make and i win soo many match even against bad match up like water. Fire deck set up better than psy deck and the luck base with Moltres will be more often in ur side that against u (It's not like it's a 50%/50% just hiting 1 or 2 time can make u win the game)
ps : sorry if my english is bad, i'm not english ^^
Actually, the odds of getting at least 1 heads each toss is 7/8 once per turn, which is extremely broken.
I have a deck with two wigglytuff, a Kangaskhan (for potential round 1 KOs and as a transition for my Wigglytuff) and a Fearow.
Certainly is no where close to being a strong deck, but it is sooo fun to play. When played well every game becomes close.
Zard is very rough, I agree. The four big matchups every deck has to care about are
Pika
Staryu/Water
Mewtwo
Marowak
All of these deck do good damage fast and will therefore kill the moltres quickly, and then even if you have a zard in play, you hit them once and then they Sabrina you and kill a benched mon for the game. Because it has to give up a 2 prizer early into all the really important matchups, it cant make use of that massive 180HP
People need to play around Sabrina more and not just blindly play all their basics onto the bench
@@jordanvespa720If you dont bench anything else you just get sabrinad early by fast decks. So ideally you want 2 moltres and 1 zard in play
@Siennarchist the advantages of charizard EX deck over mewtwo EX deck are its higher bulk (survives mewtwo EX's 150 hp attack) and higher damage (can ohko stage 2 EX).
In a faceoff between the two, charizard EX deck should be slightly favoured but it depends who draws their engine better. If the guy doesn't draw both mewtwo EX, he will lose if the charizard EX ko the 1st mewtwo EX.
I stopped stacking my bench. 2 pokemon go on my bench MAX and once 2 are knocked charizard goes last so you can't sabrina it and cheese the win over my stacked charizard. The only issue i have is NOT having moltres EX
Charizard being top tier rn👀
I've played 18 trainer Articuno games where my opponent will concede immediately if they don't stack 3 energy on their Articuno. I don't understand why they are even playing the game.
They're playing to win
Evil haha
There should be some downside to losing, or at least for conceding early. Like if you concede 3 games before turn 3 you should have to have a cool down or something.
@@MartyMeganiumfree wins though! Loo
I flipped 8 heads in a row with misty today
To me it's insane you put misty in god tier, and yet put the repeatable similar effect, with higher success chance, that also tanks two hits into the A tier.
Moltress is high S, and recent tournament results further cement how insane the card is
@@DarkTider moltres is amazing, the only problem is fire cards arent
I think you might be sleeping on Arcanine a little bit. The one energy lower requirement than Char means you can ramp into 120 damage really quickly, and I think once the meta stops being dominated by big blasters, he’ll really shine
Why would it stop being big blasters? Mewtwo/gard is very tough to stop if they can stall you, pika is insane damage at just 2 energy, and ofc water decks can just pop off at a moments notice. I don't see these big 3 going anywhere.
I have beat pika decks with arcanine. It can one hit I also like to combo it with Sabrina support.
Spot on, nice tier list
Misty is F tier for me. My friend said (and I agree) that I spent all my luck on pokemon for card packs. Because I got almost 2 binders of immersives and ex cards, but for two weeks, I got 0 energy from misty
Thanks for taking all our bad rng from us
I'm excited to see when you do 3 diamonds list
Also I'm having a lot of luck with my venu ex deck
Going against a Machamp that gets upgraded each turn is pretty demoralizing (especially when it's in the final tier of solo challenges haha). I'm curious if it will get more play with the new mankey promo card.
New player here. Had Misty used on me twice and was like I need it. Ever since I got it, I've only EVER gotten 1 energy. And that was 33% of the time. Every other time its been tails first. they definitely nerfed the flip rate for the release
The marowak one was true because I had one of the most craziest matches with it. Like I was fighting against a Mewtwo and I got 8 tails in a row, so the opponent had a lot of time to setup their Mewtwo, but the moment that Mewtwo became active, my Marowak rolled two heads and it one shot that Mewtwo. Like I got 4 heads continuously, first it eliminated Kangaskhan, then took down mewtwo
nearly smashed my phone a few times thanks to double tails but when it hits (even once), it's great. I have Sandslash as a backup for quick 2 energy 70 damage and there have been games that I intentionally retreated marowak ex to get guaranteed fixed damage lol
@@boibotbot9030 im running it with diglet/dugtrio x2 - the amount of times they couldn't do a shit is hilarious
Tbh 1 month later your tiers list was pretty accurate, you were a little bit overhype by venusaur and charizard should be in A tiers but it’s a good tiers list. Except for arcanine he is somewhere between A tiers and B tiers, C tiers is wild ( i'll say A tiers but that’s just me)
One thing that I think people should take in to account is solo battles.
A card like Ditto is absolutely useless in competetive, but in solo battles, you can in theory use it to counter fast Mons like Starmie for cheap.
Blastoise doing 100 for only 3 while not sacrificing an energy makes it A Tier for me personally. Especially with Misty being able to potentially load him up almost instantly.
Putting Venusaur in A and Char in B is absolutely wild when Venusaur needs 4 energy to do 100 and Char needs 4 to OHKO anything in the format
Plus Char has more consistent ramp with Moltres and bulkier mons to soak damage until it's ready to go. Venusaur is such a casual deck, fun but not a threat
No I 100 percent agree with the Misty commentary. The second time I went about against this card in PVP, it gave their Blastoise or Articuno 6 effing energy.
idk if its the same for the TGC, but I really wish they rework the turn to first turn u can place energy but cant attack, and maybe cant use trainer cards too, idk if that would be balanced
Actually arcanine ex is the speedy version of the fire deck, coupled with moltres it get set up as fast as the 4th turn. Its almost like pika ex, it has bigger dmg but doesn't last as long.
Gengar's ability is great but not for a Pokémon that takes so long to set up, by the time you use it the opponent may have already used most of their supports 16:05
I'm on the part of the globe that gets their tierlists on Tuesdays. And don't get me started on the pink Thursdays. Yep, it's a real madhouse 'round here.. Real madhouse I tell ya..
My honest take for balancing? Change it so:
Turn 1: 1st draw
Turn 2: 1st energy
Turn 3: first attack
Turn 4: first evolution
Turn 5: onward as normal
I'm so used to have a Decidueye Memorial Tier... Feels so weird not having it
Articuno ex start with a turn 1 misty flip that gets 3 energy is almost always an instant win.
I think the main problem with Zard is not requiring 4 energies to attack or even that it discards 2. The main problem is that is a stage two and if your Charmeleons or Zard are at the bottom you are simply too slow but that is a problem that affects all Stage 2 mons. I kind of wish they add a great ball to search for stage one and or ultra ball to search for stage 2 something like that. As of now I feel basic mons or some stage 1 will dominate the meta you already see Pika EX and Mewtwo EX winning tournaments.
in retrospect this tier list is too funny
The problem with misty, is how turn 1 works in this game. Normaly the 1st person play, and cannot use support. The 2nd guy can use support and gain energy but cannot attack. Right know except if u have a big support trainer to play, being 1st isn't a good thing
The most Misty heads I've seen somebody get in turn 1 was 13! 😂😂😂
As much as I love my zard deck It was so difficult to use before I got moltres ex, they just work so well together.
50/50 per coin flip
2 coins
1/4 chance of no damage
3/4 to do 80 damage per turn
Yeah I'll take my chances
Marrowak deserves at least high-A tier
Who else agrees?
I use Arcanine for fast end game.. Rapidash as tank ( cheap cost for attack and retreat ) I'll will use every trick to prevent opponent bringing B+ cards , so far so good... about -20hp after attacking not a big issue.
I feel like just making misty give 1 consistent energy instead of randomly giving a bunch or no energy would make it less toxic
Machamp underrated. Everytime you get it its pretty much game over
This Man in every card: "this one is a weird one" 😭
i think they should very rarely almost never buff or nerf cards, but cards i think are so broken that NEED to be changed or nerfed is starmie ex without a doubt, and i think pikachu ex shouldnt get the hammer since the whole idea is a rush blitz build, so i think a simple -10 hp or makin the retreat from 1 to 2
Misty can give you 9 energy, but the probabilities are low. We remember it most when it works, but it is good to average MOST of the time. The probability of giving 1 energy is 50%. 2, is 25%. Higher than that and the chances are less than 15%. 4 energy, which is OP, only happens 6% of the time. It is an awesome card, but I think of it like "the card that gives you 0 to 2 energy"
Vileplume/exeggutor is the most consistent deck I’ve found so far
I don't get why put a really RNG dependant card on God tier, like it's good when it works but it's still just luck and you have to use water Pokemon, unlike Sabrina who works everytime and can be used on any kind of deck.
My brain goes big damage with fighting type tanks
Misty will be the first ban list card. Totally agree.
Doesn’t do crap for me 😢 I’m not even lying when I tell you that 8 out of 10 times when I play it, it’s first flip tails.
It is ridiculous how every other trainer card has restrictions except Misty… and Erika.
Misty gets a lot of the attention due to the really good water Pokémon and of course, in the history of gaming, people LOVE doing damage fast. There is always an abundance of people who wanna be the damage dealer and not the healer/tank…
Enter grass Pokémon with Venusaur, Butterfree, x2 potions, and x2 Erika. It’s not flashy. It’s slow, but man unless you’re dealing high damage consistently, they’re going to outlast you.
Ultimately, I think it’s just what is available. Water have high damage units that can get online fast. Ironically though, the best deck is the Pika deck that comes online faster (pending coin flips and draws) and deals bonus damage.
I don’t know if the answer is change/nerf or wait and see how the game evolves.
My problem with Misty is that she can make any water mon that needs high energy to perform an instant A/A+ tier. There should be a rule; only one Misty allowed per deck. This way, you at least have to use it strategically.
Misty is no good for me. The only time I get heads on a coin flip is for who goes first - so the only time I don't want it.
Question: I have always looked at the "Stage 1" on the card as referring to the first stage pokemon in the picture directly below the words. Example: on Starmie it shows Staru with the words "Stage 1" above Staru. Does it not make more sense to say that Staru is the stage 1 in the evolution, and Starmie is actually Stage 2?
The problem with fire is everything discards energy to do high but not critical damage for way too many energy requiring moltres to ramp up because if not you have no chance of getting 4 energy on centiscortch or charizard ex. Flareon doesn’t quite knock anything out for the same gambit with 3 energy and good luck with 2 energy ninetails knocking something out without getting yeeted first. If you do manage to get one of them going once it dies you wasted all your energy keeping it out unless you got good moltres rolls and can use two charizard heat clases getting 5 energy on him before bringing him out.
Feels like it’s the same deck as mewtwo ex but more conditional and if moltres had an ability from the bench to flip 2 coins instead of 3 and add an energy for each it would be a really strong deck but it having to be actively out there with a 2 retreat cost. Basically the deck suffers from needed too many energy from your pool.
Mewtwo is A because it’s the combo that makes it broken.
I have a super strong wigglytuff deck.
Its not an EX using deck, but honestly, i love the Koga deck over anything else. I have the most success with it, and, I've gotten people to quit with the Weezing retreat lol
Nice Mustache, algorithm brought me bc of TCG Pocket
ALSO i just got Lapris EX today for the event
Zapdos is definitely S tier, so many decks run the birds and it’s super effective against all 3. Even itself 😅
The thing with misty is that it averages out to one energy. Why would you not just make it one energy flat and no coin flip?
Running misty feels like running a sheer cold :,)
Ive been running Venusaur and exeggutor ex combo. Definitely S tier in my book
Misty either hits 4 energy or it's a complete dud. But absolutly funny when it hits 4 times and the opponent scoops. Busted card for sure. It should errada to flip 2 coins attach a water energy for each heads. It would still be a strong card as it would mean 50% of the time you get 1 extra energy attachment. Flipping tails on the first coin doesn't feel as bad and I wouldn't be able to completely ready a Articuno or Blastiose with a single card.
Not only Brock and Lt Surge, Blaine and Koga are also very specific. However what about if instead of nerfing Misty (which I agree is probably the most broken card in the game) they buff the other trainer so any type has a broken card. At least everyone have fun and not only water 🤣
If Misty was just for Lapras, Golduck, and Starmie, I think it would be ok. Very strong but not broken. Enabling t1 Articuno is not healthy for the game and instant pop offs for stuff like kingler and blastoise is pretty much gg
I thought for certain Starmie or Mewtwo were gonna be the god tier, but not putting Mewtwo S tier is wild.
Played against a guy who rolled 7 energy with misty first turn, it was so absurd, i was mad asf and laughing at the same time.
Coming from other games, it's pretty amusing to see a tier list this easily agreeable on. Pocket is rightfully very easy to understand it seems.
Misty sucks tho. Like she is so bad for the state of the game right now
Hey I think you might be slightly wrong on char. For him the real weakness is electric because char only come out at 5 or 6 energy to sweep your tank/ramp is moltres
I have had a decent success with arcanine ex deck with rapidash and moltres ex
played against a marowak for the first time, read its attack, thought it was broken, and then he flipped double tails 3 times in a row causing me to win
I legit went against someone who had 12 heads with a Misty card... it was game over before the game even started 😂😔
anything over 3 is just a waste
They need to add a traditional battle mode. This new style is just way too casual and quick