@ In the movie Some Kind of Monster there is a take where he reflects on his choices and he told himself he would make it happen. He thought that the late Lemmy was his north and that one day he would reach his success! He, Lars and Kirk have done and do amazing things are not the most virtuous, however, they have done wonders in the music world. Thank you Metallica!
In the movie Some Kind of Monster there is a take where he reflects on his choices and he told himself he would make it happen. He thought that the late Lemmy was his north and that one day he would reach his success! He, Lars and Kirk have done and do amazing things are not the most virtuous, however, they have done wonders in the music world. Thank you Metallica!
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@@masterofpuppies4294 yeah je certainly has set goals to his life, but reaching them is another stuff.... And he has done it !
This is so great. Lars is behaving like he just got off a 4 mile run or did a line or something and James is nursing a hangover contemplating life. What a great piece of history, would love to see a video of them watching this interview now to see their reactions.
Dave definitely contributed to the album but they didn't want any association with him at the time. Now after the reunion with Dave and Jason, a few years ago, they definitely gave him credit.
I know... i heard lars say that and i cussed at the screen and told that little bitch to be thankfull for the first two albums that Dave wrote for them.
The diference between what they both were at that time in terms of charisma and speaking skills, personality development at early ages, matureness... is huge. Lars took every answer like a pro
i love watching James journey, hes always calm in interviews/ a bit nervous, after cliff died the powerstance came out and he was never shy again, but even in this in 85 James is all calm and shy but when he gets on stage he would change.
If a "pro" steals music, and refuses to acknowledge it, and wrongly fires the creative mind in the band, sure. Mustaine has proven he was a HUGE creative talent, far beyond Kirk. e.g. Megadeth
@@timsimmons9995 a creative talent that wrote or contributed to less than half the songs on the first record and 3 riffs after……move on Mustaine and the world has Megadeth
If there's an interview happening, it's always better to let the guy who is eating an apple doing the talk, instead of the one who his drinking a beer. And I'm pretty sure it wasn't James' first, during that day ahah.
Listening to James' speaking voice back then compared to now... lol. Same voice, but you can hear the difference between boy and man, yet Lars still sounds about the same.
Lars sounds exactly the same but you can notice a slight difference in James' speaking voice from back then, too bad its way too subtle to really notice the difference
@@vintageguy6520 Well, no shit Sherlock!🙄😛 I'm very well aware of that.. My comment wasn't a correction about their actual age, but rather, and quite obviously, about their perceived age..😏
@@Superknullisch I'll admit when they were in they're early 20's they really looked young. Once ...And Justice For All and Metallica (The Black Album) came around they started to look more like adults than teens.
Everything that they just said was EXACTLY why I loved Metallica back in the mid 80's! Clothes, down to earth,.....not into Satan!!! We would've killed to have gotten something this rare back then. 1985 the year I first heard them, and I've never heard music like the first 3 albums ever again.
I agree with the OP. And justice is a great album, but was substantially closer to Black, than Ride the lightning. One is probably the best Metallica song ever.
@@ZYGTropicals Just because he's in and out of rehab doesn't mean it affects the purity of his soul. Look for the comment sentence that makes more sense
"When Kirk and Cliff joined the band, they contribute to the song writing end of things, which the two other members didn't in the early days" Umm? " Jump in the fire" ect. Lars never wants to give Mustaine any credit.
Truth is, Dave was way better at guitar than Kirk! Dave had so much great stuff that the other members, Cliff and Lars got jealous and felt like Dave was stealing the show, so they talked James into getting rid of him! Kirk is a horrible guitar player! One of few that actually got worse at guitar over the years! He can’t play any of Dave’s solos live and can’t even play the Justice Solos live! In fact, I’d bet my life that Kirk did not write those solos, the Black album too! If you ever watch Kirk in the studio trying to make a solo, he sound god awful!!!! I almost gaurantee that someone else wrote those solos and Kirk got the credit. They tried to reach Kirk the solos for playing live but he can’t do it! He plays horrible crap instead! He plays out of tune and over bends notes until they are horribly out of tune to the song! No one can tell me that Kirk wrote and played those early solos and get me to believe it, anyone can see and hear that it’s not Kirk !
@@ZYGTropicals I'm not sure Cliff would be jealous but definitely Lars. He even mentioned it He'd say James would act differently when they were alone as to when Dave was around I'm not a fan of anything after justice especially the new music with Rob
They never really were into Satanism. They did their music from a very brutally honest point of view. In my opinion, I've actually heard more truth from Metallica's songs, than I have from some so-called "Preachers" in some Churches that I've attended in my lifetime. When you get to the place that a Metal Band is more honest with you, than a Preacher would be, that's troubling to me...but it also shows you who cares more about you having truth in your life!
@ It was dude. Growing up 30 minutes from San Francisco where alot of these bands came out of as teenagers we'd go see bands play once or twice a week. Death Angel, Metallica, Exodus, Testament, etc. It was an amazing time while all of this was beginning. It's weird seeing this remembering how young we were and being older now seeing them.
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@@crimsonskies1445 Thats awesome ! And what do you think about how these bands have evolved through time ?
@ I'm very happy that their all still around and playing. Metallica really made it big and pretty much everyone knew they were going to be big, big. James has really evolved as a guitarist and song writer. Alot of fans didn't like the "Black" album but in my opinion it's an excellent album from start to finish. Death Angel is another band that did pretty well and Testament..I have a great Testament story I'll have to tell you about.
Wow were they young. So was I at that time. And I am still die hard Metallica fan. Been to 11 shows. Thank u Metallica for all the great years and many more to come
I think Lars’ saying that Dave wasn’t an Active Participant in the songwriting, not writing them together with Lars and James. Yeah, they used his 2 of his Songs and some ideas, but he wasn’t part of the writing process in-person and had a say in what ideas to use and how.
@@simplebutnotsolongname6642 ehm Dave wrote half of kill em all and the main parts of the ride song and the call of ktulu. He contributed a lot. Lars wrote jack shit in terms of music, though you see his name everywhere. He has only done arrangements, he doesnt know music really.
@@mehegama *4 songs out of 10 on Kill em All. 2 songs he brought to Metallica, and 2 he Co-written with them. Yes, I know he contributed stuff. Lars knows Music, Arrangement is a key part of music after all. Those Metallica Songs wouldn’t be what they are without Lars. And He does often tweak stuff like riffs (Enter Sandman for Example), so he does have a semblance of Musical intuition when he hears music. Though I do Amend most of my statement, I don’t truly believe he seriously thinks Dave didn’t contribute at all; he did Credit him on the songs after all. I think he just tripped up when he was trying to compare the Old lineup to the New one with Kirk and Cliff because the Interviewer asked them how the band’s Sound Changed with the Line-up changes.
Technically Dave only wrote 2 songs in metallica, 2 he bought from his other band which they changed around and a couple of riffs were used on the next album
@@deletedhero5579 well these things are pretty well known by now. Mustaine wrote the 4 known songs in Kill em all. He wrote the main riffs and the solos and the others just helped to refine the arrangements (of course in the album they added the mid slection to the the four horsemen and also changed lyrics but the music on those is Mustaine's. We need to note here that Hit the lights, Motorbreath and No remorse was coowritten by Hugh Tanner and their drummer at the time, in Leather Charm. These credits were never given. Also the main riff in Ride (verse) and the bridge (the "spider chord" section) was Mustain's, plus all of Call of Ktulu (both the acoustic part and the main riff). Mustain has reused all these riffs in various Megadeth songs. Also there is a bridge riff in Lepper Messiah. You can hear it in early demo tapes, it is on youtube. The point is that Lars has put his name on all of these songs, which is ridiculous, since he offered nothing other than maybe arranging ideas, which is really not songwritting.
It’s unusual but impressive that Lars, a drummer is the main spokesman of the band. Usually it’s a lead singer or lead guitar player. Maybe Lars has more say about the music in Metallica than most other drummers do in their bands. And that’s a good thing!
Lars was always the main driving force outside of the stage in terms of PR and networking. James got much better with time, but here he's way behind Lars.
Lars was the one who always had the business connections, that was what he brought to the table when he formed Metallica with James. I am not surprised that he is the man spokesman of the band.
God, Lars and James look so young. They look like kids. I liked the album covers. The artwork, song arrangements and each song reflected the album. I own the 6 1/2 Anniversary set and the artwork is amazing, the photos of them playing is great. They really put a lot of effort into their music from Kill em All all the way up to And Justice For All. The black album and load era were commercial success. People can say what they want but those albums opened doors for other creativity in future works.
All you talk about is the metallica Business and how godful he Handels IT! Guess you dont care about their Music and Lars weak live Performance. I bet you own a Lars Ulrich Shrine in your wardrobe
@@InRiquiem its crazy how people focuse entire lars career drum skills on the low of the wave in last decade especially. Yet in certain shows, he could still have his shit together and he s back on form since the couple of last tours. However in the 80's to late 90's , he was a great drummer. This is a fact. In 1985, like this interview, you don't find weak performance from Lars . Re watch the Hammer festival then talk. San francisco from the same year. Canada 1986, Danemark 1986, Sweden 1987 and i can go on and on even to 1995 from a start where Lars is a great drummer and beast of performer, as ian paice, quite focused, considering the some unusual places he did fills and stuff.
@@Nissardpertugiu Lars is a disciplined businessman and later albums expose a lack of formal education in music or even basic ear to pickup. He does not know how to write music at all but when the show is over they carted all the paper to the dressing room and they made money and survived. Drums are very easy to get by on without any skill as long as your actual music writers are good enough.
Fuck what is acceptable in public,specially when you are young.the only problem nowdays is the chicks, they ll think you are a freak or a junkie,i think.in addittion back then they might have digging this style,metal and rockstar look was hot back then
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@@thodoris3790 exactly I think that's what he meant by "acceptable" : that this look would still be a common style you can find here and there. But I agree with you, no matter what the people we do whatever we want
It's heartbreaking and beautiful in equal measure seeing these two guys before their dear friend Cliff departed. What a massive, awful, truly awful, painful thing to have happened. Even now in 2022 it still must hurt. -God bless you Cliff. Rest in peace.
James looked older, but not in a bad manner. He was obviously going to the gym or something. In the Black Album tour he was fit like a wrestler. In this interview he is still thin. And he grew a bad ass moustache and beard.
@@richardsanderson6460 Lars was very pecullar ans physical about his drumming then, and he s from a sport background before that. Lars had probably the most balanced diet food routine of all of them( despite booze and coke later ). Lars is a runner too
what a great interview! I've never seen it and what an exciting time for the band. I guess this would have been Ride the Lightening tour? They were probably already writing songs that would go on Master of Puppets.
@@viniciusoliveira8316 He was born in 1963. According to Wikipedia: Lars Ulrich R[2] (/ˈʊlrɪk/; Danish: [ˈlɑːs ˈulˀʁek]; born 26 December 1963) is a Danish[3][4] musician best known as the drummer and co-founder of American heavy metal band Metallica.
James father left when he was 13 and his mother died when he was 16 i know even tho his father was a scumbag james still bought him a house in the black album era funny enough when they were starting to get recognized his father showed up. but they were 22, 23 around this time. they were like 17-18 when they started the band in 81 tho
Lars : When Kirk and Cliff joined Metallica they contributed to more of the song writing of the band , where the other two members didn't . WTF is this guy talking about ? I mean Ron McGoveny didn't contribute lyrics or Riffs , but Mustaine absolutely DID . This just shows what a spiteful calculating jerk Lars was , and still is . It's no wonder Dave Mustaine has despised Lars for 38 years now . Dave Mustaine delivered 2 complete songs in 1981 to Metallica / Jump In The Fire and Mechanix that had nothing to do with Metallica . He then Co Wrote the Four Horseman . Mustaine then Co Wrote Phantom Lord and Metal Militia with James on the Kill Em All Album that had nothing to do with Ron McGoveny , Cliff , Kirk , or Lars . That's why recently Lars has harassed Mustaine into agreeing to add Lars' name to the writing credits of Phantom Lord and Metal Militia that Lars never had anything to do with writing . Mustaine told him to FU basically . Dave told Lars to go harass James to add Lars name on those 2 songs instead 😂 Dave Mustaine Co Wrote Riffs on the Ride The Lightning Album as well / Call Of Ktulu , Ride The Lightning songs . Metallica added Mustaine Riffs to Lepar Messiah on the Master Of Puppets album too .
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I absolutely agree on that ! It's weird how Lars talks about that period of time...
Mustaine has credit co-writing 4 songs on kill em all , and 2 on ride the lightning. Compared to the rest of catalog up to that point it wasnt much. You are trying to make it sound like mustaine created what metallica is and that can be any further than the truth, if anything cliff contributed more to Metallica change of style music, heck even kirk . So he wasn’t really lying. Mustaine was in metallica for not that long. Mustaine and the guys in metallica have been friends for at least 20 years at this point. Even before some kind of monster documentary. But people like to recreate a story and romanticize something that is not true. The reality is that METALLICA WAS BIGGER THAN EVER WITHOUT MUSTAINE.
@@felipecavalera8729 You obviously can't read . I never said Mustaine created Metallica's sound or their overall success for the last 40 years .They had a sound and plenty of complete songs before Mustaine ever showed up in 1981 . But Dave did contribute to 4 Metallica songs He did contribute 2 complete songs he wrote alone that had nothing to do with Metallica . So yes , Lars was lying his ass off in this clip .
@@Mysterio-Solar he wasn’t lying because cliff and kirk contributed more than dave up to that point, plain and simple. Not to even mention the music they had created and not put out up to the time of that interview.
@7:47 Interviewer: "If Slayer was playing one end of town and you were playing on the other end of town, why would I see you?" James: "Maybe you're not into satan." LOL LOL LOL
1:38 imagine bringing the music for horsemen , jump in the fire , phantom Lord and metal militia , 4 of the 7 song demo that got metallica signed and then have people telling metal news outlets you didn't contribute or as if those songs or songs like Dave's " when hell freezes over " ( later to be ktulu ) didn't contribute to the sound of metallica
Exactly. I love Metallica, but Lars is often a jackwad and shows a high level of delusion here when he says, "the members before Kirk/Cliff didn't contribute...". Wait, what? I guess you quickly forgot that Mustaine was an original member who wrote the lyrics and/or guitar parts on 33% (6 of 18) of your first 2 records. Mustaine wrote at least 6 of the songs on the first 2 records, and essentially contributed a massive amount to your success in live performances pre-Kill Em All, which landed you the first album deal? GTFO. For those that didn't know this, Mustaine is credited on 4 out of 10 (40%) of the (non-covered) songs on Kill Em All, and 2 out of 8 (25%) on Ride the Lighting (long after Mustaine's departure they still stole his music), which is contrary to Lars' narrative here, e.g. they had so much contribute from Kirk, they were STILL using Mustaine's talented work after he was wrongly fired....
@@timsimmons9995 I saw Lars on howard and stern was like " so how many people at your first show , like 2 ?? " and laughed and Lars was like " no , more like 200 . me and James knew almost nobody but dave was king shit of Huntington Beach so a bunch of people he knew showed up "
let us all please just hug PaPa Hetfield. I grew up with them in the 90's, and James is the reason I picked up guitar in highschool 18 years ago. I'm 33 almost 34 now. group hug lol.
1985 - I'm watching an interview with the guys from Metallica and I turn my gaze to the guitar in the corner - shouldn't I learn the chords? 1986 - Master Of Puppets, Welcome Home (Sanitarium), Orion 1988 - Blackened, One 1991 - Enter Sandman, Nothing Else Matters ... 2022 in 5 days, I'm watching an interview with the guys from Metallica and I keep looking at the guitar in the corner - and don't I learn the chords?
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Come on man it's never too late ! 😉 You'll be so glad afterward I promise ! It's so rewarding to be able to play songs you love 👍👍
You know which channel I think is super underrated? Metal Piano Music. The guy spends weeks composing classic metal songs into relaxing piano pieces and he hardly gets any views. I love his arrangement of The Sentinel by Judas Priest. That dude deserves millions of followers 🤘🏻
Lars is a classic bullshitter... saying that previous band members before Cliff and Kirk didn't contribute to Metallica's music is complete trash. He clearly never liked Mustaine and cared only about his shit. James is completely clear on what he's doing as a musician and voice of Metallica on the stage. I think that James view of not over complicating things and rather humbly focusing on the music is what made him to connect so well with what he's doing as well with the crowd. Thank you for sharing this video!
This was fresh, i agree they were not fair to Mustaine, both camp were pretty immature and talking shit on bits. They were 20-21 then. Its not good but looking back to it you can't hold a grudge on everyone's shoulder 40 years later. I did shit in my teens, i said things somewhat exagerated things i probably would not say in my early 20's with a slightly erroned view. So everyone s did. I would be sorry for the guy that keep that grudge after you matured. However Lars in MOP said in video and stuff that he absolutely loved Megadeth and Dave s music. Since the days of internet, even though i have interviews of 1988 where Lars cover this.. There s a lot of backstage pics of Dave hanging on with Lars as early than 1985 , Cliff and even James all through the mid , late 80's to even woodstock 1999 who resurfaced. So... Deep inside i think there s still a certain respect and love between them. Why you would go backstage at metallica show or metallica members see Dave at Megadeth shows ( Lars even singing Arnachy in the UK with Dave in Monster of Rock 1988 ) and be backstage if they hated each other that much. Media amplified this. Sure they had few issues they didn't really resolved but that was way over exagerrated
Day on the GREEN August 31st 85. I was there. One of the hottest days at the close of summer. Every band had the time of their lives. The Scorpions killed that night.
Yes I know, but still this is interesting to hear about their mindset back then. We see that Lars is almost the only one speaking and that echoes how much he is involved in the writing process and mixing since the beginning.
Léon Bousquet yeah great interview I wish they had TH-cam back in them days and cellphones we could have seen some cool stuff
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@@jbracingnewsreviews3381 Yeah Ahah I wish the same ! I also wish I was born earlier so I could be 20 in the 80's. There is a live called Cunning Stunts in 1998, if you haven't seen it go check that out man , it's some pure Metallica energy !! One year before my birth, missed the date Ahah
I'm not sure, I think Lars was the bands spokesman for a longtime before James became comfortable w himself, and u can see n most all older interviews w James he isn't a ppl person at all, and this is where most of the dark , introverted lyrics come from and is the reason I grew up loving Metallica and still do to this day , because I can relate one of the lyrical minds of his time ..... IMHO
The interviewer asked why should someone see Metallica instead of another band like Slayer or Megadeth…fortunately, those three bands toured together about ten years ago
The best thing they did after Cliff died, was to be headliners for Master tour.....seeing them in small venues, usually reserved for plays etc, was epic! Best show I ever saw!! You had to be a fan to get tickets!! (Metal Church opened in Winnipeg @ the playhouse theatre)
1:41 Lars completely ignoring the fact that Mustaine laid the foundations for a couple tracks off their first two albums lmao. Cool interview anyway though.
Totally dismissed Daves impact on their early sound and song writing. Took a lawyer to make Lars give Dave credit and owed money that Metallica made off his music.
@@ultras3705 yeah but! Usa is larger in land and is more spread out, so thats the thing, driving in the usa takes longer to go from place to other place. In europe you can be in different cities in different countries within hrs
Metallica are truly one of the greatest all time. Truth being no Dave Mustaine probably a different animal. Maybe still one of the greatest, we'll never know because 2 great bands were created.😎🤘✌🤘
Dave didn't impact the bands sound leaving...!?! His name is on writing credit for the first TWO albums and her introduced them to the spider riffing and picking. That's like Papa Johns Pizza trying to tell someone that Italy had no impact on their product...
@@chrisstapleton5652 Perhaps. But Papa Johns cannot claim credit (no matter how small) for their food on the one hand while saying there was no influence from Italy. What Italy wants is irrelevant.
@@RaOThRaSh Well coming from such a reputable source of some random TH-cam person...it's gotta be true... I guess the rest of the metal world (that emulates it) must have it "all wrong"...lmao
Never realized how 'handsome' James was. When I think of the early days, I think of the facial hair and the zits! Almost looks like actor James Katt here, a la 'The Greatest American Hero.'
No, he wasnt good for Metallica he was drunk and sloppy before he was fired, getting fired was the best for both, they went on to write their greatest stuff and Dave showed the world eaht he was made of
No, because then we wouldn’t have Megadeth and I don’t wanna live in a world without Megadeth. Plus, I think that Mustaine is the one who wants to be in charge and Lars is also the one who wants to be in charge and when you put two people like that together there is going to be a lot of drama and clashing. You just can’t have two people like that in a band. Mustaine made his comeback and showed everyone how great he was….. Metallica showed everyone how great they were. So we, the fans, got the best of both worlds.
"The difference is now the newer members Cliff & Kirk contribute to the songs while the previous members did not" - Lars. WOW! Really? Mustaine might have something to say about that! I think he had some ideas about songs...Megadeth anyone?
Agreed. I love Metallica, but Lars is often a jackwad and shows a high level of delusion here when he says, "the members before Kirk/Cliff didn't contribute...". Wait, what? I guess you quickly forgot that Mustaine was an original member who wrote the lyrics and/or guitar parts on 33% (6 of 18) of your first 2 records. Mustaine wrote at least 6 of the songs on the first 2 records, and essentially contributed a massive amount to your success in live performances pre-Kill Em All, which landed you the first album deal? GTFO. For those that didn't know this, Mustaine is credited on 4 out of 10 (40%) of the (non-covered) songs on Kill Em All, and 2 out of 8 (25%) on Ride the Lighting (long after Mustaine's departure they still stole his music), which is contrary to Lars' narrative here, e.g. they had so much contribute from Kirk, they were STILL using Mustaine's talented work after he was wrongly fired....
Pretty funny how Lars says that Mustaine didnt put anything in for the band the first couple years yet some of the best riffs off kill em all and ride the lightning were written by him. GRANTED, this was 35+ years ago and i believe they burried the hatchet but still lol
Man, in the album Kill Em All, they send special thanks to Mustaine and Ron McGovney. I don't think James, Lars, Cliff - much less Kirk - ever had a problem with Mustaine. Dave kept bashing them regularly, both in interviews and in live concerts, in the 80's, but they never responded to the provocations. There's an interview in which Cliff says about Mustaine's provocations: "He runs his mouth. And we run our business." Ahah.
That hatchet gets buried and then exhumed depending on what schizomood Dave is in at the moment. Metallica would’ve made it without his contributions, get over it. They had Seek and destroy they had Whiplash they had Hit the lights. Enough to make them stand out and enough to inspire Slayer and Anthrax and to light the spark of a new genre. Dave’s songs were great but they were not the single reason they got signed.
“Kirk and Cliff contribute to the song writing while those other guys didn’t” no wonder Dave hated this twat. Four Horsemen, Phantom lord, Metal militia, Jump in the fire, ride the lighting, call of Ktulu, Seek and destroy solo, Leper messiah( questionable ) all these have Dave’s credits on them. If you take the length of time Dave was in the band compared to Kirt Dave actually has a much higher song writing credit than the 40 years Kirk has been in the band
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Yeah I agree with that, but Kirk with his own style, plays a role in how the songs sound like. It's not just about the writing process it's also about how it's interpreted
@ Thing is, the whole debacle with Kirk losing his phone with all of his "ideas", which only amounted to a collection of riffs, and that leading to his very limited creative contribution to the recent album, lends credence to the rumor, that he is not much involved in song writing, or song structure. He just provides solos to already mostly completed songs. And I don't think its controversial, to say that contribution peaked in the 90's.
Higher Songwriting Credit than Kirk? pls. Dave was in the band for a year and had 4 credits on Kill 'em All; On RTL, Kirk was in the band of for a year too, and Had Four on that album as Well. Dave had Two more on RTL, while Kirk Has Truck Loads more after that. Get your facts Straight. And I think Lars fucked up on that. He was asked How the Band's Sounds Changed after the line-up change and he felt he had to Compare the line-ups to illustrate how, and he ran his mouth a little bit longer than he should. I don't think he honestly Believed that part about Dave, otherwise he wouldn't have Credited him at all and still to this day.
Who cares? You cannot be a 20 year all your life phushing 60s. Its ridiculous. What matters is what they stood for and the ground and the layers they founded. I see common peopole wearing prada shades. Why wouldn't he? He's got millions. That doesn't make him less heavy.
@@21753117 Some of the pictures are pretty cool. Actually, James and Jason look great in all pictures. Back then, I wanted that leather Metallica jacket very badly. Lars and Kirk did adopt some aesthetic options that I would not follow, though.
Lars: "I think the only thing that changed a bit was that when Kirk and Cliff jointed the band they contributed to the songwriting ends of things which the two other members didn't....." He must have forgotten about a guy named Mustaine.
For me personally, my enjoyment for their music ended with ...And Justice For All. Everything else after that was mediocre at best.
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I enjoyed Death Magnetic personally, the sound is big and there are some really heavy riffs. But I do agree that And Justice For All is one of their best albums
You must not confuse personal tastes with quality. If you are not a musician, opinions will never count as proper reviews. I will never understand how people who can't play a single scale on the guitar, make their careers by writing reviews about music. That's like a virgin woman writing a review of a Silvia Saint porn movie ahahah.
Hey Metallica fans, check out me playing No Remorse on guitar : th-cam.com/video/kWd_i2DgFAE/w-d-xo.html
They both seem pretty cool and chill. I hope they make it.
Yeah I wish the best for them, I think they have something !
REALLY? THAT'S METALLICA!! THE GREATEST METAL BAND TO EVER EXIST!!
PSYCH! GET PRANKED AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
This type of comment is soooooo old and worn out..
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@@the___dude Wow, thought the dude was more chill than this...
Legend has it Lars is still eating that same apple.
He had to spit it out when he yelled "he fooking left the band!! Period!!"
Think I heard the interviewer ask if he can take a bite of that apple again... camera man didn't pan fast enough...
Those teeth though lol
😁
I joined him and had an apple while I watched this interview. 🍎
I was at this show.
Victory, Yngwie Malmsteen, Metallica, Y&T, Ratt, Scorpions.
Great day.
Where is Victory today, name a good song
@@likkidixx Good luck with that lol.
Im so jealous!!
Legendary
Isn’t this the same show where Lars, Mustaine, and slash were hanging out? I’ve seen a picture of what seems to be the same era somewhere.
Who would have thought, that this young long haired blonde guy would turn out to be the biggest rockstar ever?
Not even him I guess !
@ In the movie Some Kind of Monster there is a take where he reflects on his choices and he told himself he would make it happen. He thought that the late Lemmy was his north and that one day he would reach his success! He, Lars and Kirk have done and do amazing things are not the most virtuous, however, they have done wonders in the music world. Thank you Metallica!
In the movie Some Kind of Monster there is a take where he reflects on his choices and he told himself he would make it happen. He thought that the late Lemmy was his north and that one day he would reach his success! He, Lars and Kirk have done and do amazing things are not the most virtuous, however, they have done wonders in the music world. Thank you Metallica!
@@masterofpuppies4294 yeah je certainly has set goals to his life, but reaching them is another stuff.... And he has done it !
um dos maiores*
This is so great. Lars is behaving like he just got off a 4 mile run or did a line or something and James is nursing a hangover contemplating life. What a great piece of history, would love to see a video of them watching this interview now to see their reactions.
I think you're giving James to much credit. He's contemplating his next beer.
Outstanding idea
yes it is, they are so "original" and "real" when every other riff or song was stolen or wrote by someone they give no credit. Well how it turned out
@@ksenobite Well they made it work, didn't they. Everything in rock is stolen.
@@ksenobite What a load of bull
Pov : You're commenting this video
" WTF Dave didn't contribute to the writing ??"
Dave’s writing credits are on the albums. If Lars meant Loyd and Ron. When he said “Early Days”. Then that sounds about right.
Dave definitely contributed to the album but they didn't want any association with him at the time. Now after the reunion with Dave and Jason, a few years ago, they definitely gave him credit.
Yeah, really Lars😂😂
I know... i heard lars say that and i cussed at the screen and told that little bitch to be thankfull for the first two albums that Dave wrote for them.
@@damianquijada4199 how many albums after he left does he have to get credit for while bad mouthing them years later
The diference between what they both were at that time in terms of charisma and speaking skills, personality development at early ages, matureness... is huge. Lars took every answer like a pro
Yeah and he was only 21
@@jd0879 and he's a Danish
i love watching James journey, hes always calm in interviews/ a bit nervous, after cliff died the powerstance came out and he was never shy again, but even in this in 85 James is all calm and shy but when he gets on stage he would change.
If a "pro" steals music, and refuses to acknowledge it, and wrongly fires the creative mind in the band, sure. Mustaine has proven he was a HUGE creative talent, far beyond Kirk. e.g. Megadeth
@@timsimmons9995 a creative talent that wrote or contributed to less than half the songs on the first record and 3 riffs after……move on Mustaine and the world has Megadeth
Lars really carried that interview.
Yeah. This was during the early days where James was still Shy and you can tell. And that's actually a good thing.
Lars has always been pretty savvy socially
Right? Same old Lars.. it's so surreal because they are the guys we grew up with and it's just strange I can't explain well.
If there's an interview happening, it's always better to let the guy who is eating an apple doing the talk, instead of the one who his drinking a beer. And I'm pretty sure it wasn't James' first, during that day ahah.
Always loved Tallica since I was 16, I’m 48 and nothing has changed
Listening to James' speaking voice back then compared to now... lol. Same voice, but you can hear the difference between boy and man, yet Lars still sounds about the same.
Yep now Lars looks like a homeless guy and still has the same voice he had in 1985.
Lars sounds exactly the same but you can notice a slight difference in James' speaking voice from back then, too bad its way too subtle to really notice the difference
Lars looks like Varg nowadays
@@marcelofg4214 Nice contradiction
Still chews with his mouth open...
This just reminds me that when I was 13 years old, I wanted to BE Metallica, and almost 30 years later, I still own and love all those classic albums.
Hard to believe they were both only 22 years old in this interview.
Not really.. looks more like 17-19 to me, lol!
@@Superknullisch Nope that was 1985 and they were born in 1963 so 22 years old.
No! It isn't hard to believe !!
@@vintageguy6520 Well, no shit Sherlock!🙄😛 I'm very well aware of that.. My comment wasn't a correction about their actual age, but rather, and quite obviously, about their perceived age..😏
@@Superknullisch I'll admit when they were in they're early 20's they really looked young. Once ...And Justice For All and Metallica (The Black Album) came around they started to look more like adults than teens.
Everything that they just said was EXACTLY why I loved Metallica back in the mid 80's! Clothes, down to earth,.....not into Satan!!! We would've killed to have gotten something this rare back then. 1985 the year I first heard them, and I've never heard music like the first 3 albums ever again.
You mean first 4 because justice was a masterpiece except for no base so I guess that's why you don't like it
@@mikeortiz9664 Agree. The first 4 albums are the METALLICA.
You mean the first 4 brah...
I agree with the OP. And justice is a great album, but was substantially closer to Black, than Ride the lightning. One is probably the best Metallica song ever.
The first three are unsurpassed.
Thank god for 105.5 KNAC Fm Long Beach California RIP 🪦 they were one of the first Commercial stations to play Metallica… 🎸
I would go there and get stickers. Lol
James a pure soul
isn't he so excited and kinda out of breath :))
A pure soul who goes in and out of rehab! 🤣
thats why he bear with a guy like lars.and they made it
Might be Day at the Green concert. Some footage from this show For Whom the Bell Tolls.
@@ZYGTropicals Just because he's in and out of rehab doesn't mean it affects the purity of his soul.
Look for the comment sentence that makes more sense
"When Kirk and Cliff joined the band, they contribute to the song writing end of things, which the two other members didn't in the early days" Umm? " Jump in the fire" ect. Lars never wants to give Mustaine any credit.
Was thinking the same thing
Tbh Lars is and always been full of himself
Yeahhh Dave contributed a LOT
Truth is, Dave was way better at guitar than Kirk!
Dave had so much great stuff that the other members, Cliff and Lars got jealous and felt like Dave was stealing the show, so they talked James into getting rid of him!
Kirk is a horrible guitar player! One of few that actually got worse at guitar over the years!
He can’t play any of Dave’s solos live and can’t even play the Justice Solos live!
In fact, I’d bet my life that Kirk did not write those solos, the Black album too! If you ever watch Kirk in the studio trying to make a solo, he sound god awful!!!! I almost gaurantee that someone else wrote those solos and Kirk got the credit.
They tried to reach Kirk the solos for playing live but he can’t do it! He plays horrible crap instead!
He plays out of tune and over bends notes until they are horribly out of tune to the song!
No one can tell me that Kirk wrote and played those early solos and get me to believe it, anyone can see and hear that it’s not Kirk !
@@leerussell451 yea he did
@@ZYGTropicals I'm not sure Cliff would be jealous but definitely Lars. He even mentioned it
He'd say James would act differently when they were alone as to when Dave was around
I'm not a fan of anything after justice especially the new music with Rob
Lars sounds exactly the same 35 years later
But looks 100 years older LOL.
His hair doesn’t look the same…(or lack there of) 😍
James doesnt
Those two young men sure went places in life. Holy shit.
Great interview to watch, wow! They still have the same way of doing things. Lars is a natural born PR 🙂🤟
This is piece of history and yes there are many things that come out of this about their personalities 😉
"Maybe you're not into Satan" best answer out of the whole interview
They never really were into Satanism. They did their music from a very brutally honest point of view. In my opinion, I've actually heard more truth from Metallica's songs, than I have from some so-called "Preachers" in some Churches that I've attended in my lifetime. When you get to the place that a Metal Band is more honest with you, than a Preacher would be, that's troubling to me...but it also shows you who cares more about you having truth in your life!
@@ronaldshank7589 he's talking about slayer
I'm from San Jose, CA and was 17 years old at the 8/31/85 infamous Day on the Green show. Stood left of Cliff and damn what a show it was.
Great man ! That must have been an amazing experience, I wish I was there too ! Unfortunately I was born in 1997...
@ It was dude. Growing up 30 minutes from San Francisco where alot of these bands came out of as teenagers we'd go see bands play once or twice a week. Death Angel, Metallica, Exodus, Testament, etc. It was an amazing time while all of this was beginning. It's weird seeing this remembering how young we were and being older now seeing them.
@@crimsonskies1445 Thats awesome ! And what do you think about how these bands have evolved through time ?
@ I'm very happy that their all still around and playing. Metallica really made it big and pretty much everyone knew they were going to be big, big. James has really evolved as a guitarist and song writer. Alot of fans didn't like the "Black" album but in my opinion it's an excellent album from start to finish. Death Angel is another band that did pretty well and Testament..I have a great Testament story I'll have to tell you about.
I was 20....I think I seen you there😃
Wow were they young. So was I at that time. And I am still die hard Metallica fan. Been to 11 shows. Thank u Metallica for all the great years and many more to come
🤟✌
Lars seems soooo damn confident in this interview (as always) I kinda like it about him.
The audacity on Lars to say that Dave wasnt contributing to the song writing :)
I think Lars’ saying that Dave wasn’t an Active Participant in the songwriting, not writing them together with Lars and James. Yeah, they used his 2 of his Songs and some ideas, but he wasn’t part of the writing process in-person and had a say in what ideas to use and how.
@@simplebutnotsolongname6642 ehm Dave wrote half of kill em all and the main parts of the ride song and the call of ktulu. He contributed a lot. Lars wrote jack shit in terms of music, though you see his name everywhere. He has only done arrangements, he doesnt know music really.
@@mehegama *4 songs out of 10 on Kill em All. 2 songs he brought to Metallica, and 2 he Co-written with them. Yes, I know he contributed stuff.
Lars knows Music, Arrangement is a key part of music after all. Those Metallica Songs wouldn’t be what they are without Lars. And He does often tweak stuff like riffs (Enter Sandman for Example), so he does have a semblance of Musical intuition when he hears music.
Though I do Amend most of my statement, I don’t truly believe he seriously thinks Dave didn’t contribute at all; he did Credit him on the songs after all. I think he just tripped up when he was trying to compare the Old lineup to the New one with Kirk and Cliff because the Interviewer asked them how the band’s Sound Changed with the Line-up changes.
Technically Dave only wrote 2 songs in metallica, 2 he bought from his other band which they changed around and a couple of riffs were used on the next album
@@deletedhero5579 well these things are pretty well known by now. Mustaine wrote the 4 known songs in Kill em all. He wrote the main riffs and the solos and the others just helped to refine the arrangements (of course in the album they added the mid slection to the the four horsemen and also changed lyrics but the music on those is Mustaine's. We need to note here that Hit the lights, Motorbreath and No remorse was coowritten by Hugh Tanner and their drummer at the time, in Leather Charm. These credits were never given. Also the main riff in Ride (verse) and the bridge (the "spider chord" section) was Mustain's, plus all of Call of Ktulu (both the acoustic part and the main riff). Mustain has reused all these riffs in various Megadeth songs. Also there is a bridge riff in Lepper Messiah. You can hear it in early demo tapes, it is on youtube.
The point is that Lars has put his name on all of these songs, which is ridiculous, since he offered nothing other than maybe arranging ideas, which is really not songwritting.
It’s unusual but impressive that Lars, a drummer is the main spokesman of the band. Usually it’s a lead singer or lead guitar player. Maybe Lars has more say about the music in Metallica than most other drummers do in their bands. And that’s a good thing!
Lars was always the main driving force outside of the stage in terms of PR and networking. James got much better with time, but here he's way behind Lars.
Lars was the one who always had the business connections, that was what he brought to the table when he formed Metallica with James. I am not surprised that he is the man spokesman of the band.
@@vinaymulukutla358 And he had a fuck ton of records in his house. He always knew his music.
Without lars we wouldn't be talking about metallica, good or bad
Satan jokers, Necrodeath, Exciter...
All lead by drummers.
Nocturnus
God, Lars and James look so young. They look like kids.
I liked the album covers. The artwork, song arrangements and each song reflected the album. I own the 6 1/2 Anniversary set and the artwork is amazing, the photos of them playing is great. They really put a lot of effort into their music from Kill em All all the way up to And Justice For All. The black album and load era were commercial success. People can say what they want but those albums opened doors for other creativity in future works.
They were kids!
They were kids lol
They went a long way in 6 short years- people give Lars shit, but he ain’t stupid and he has always been constant in his message.
All you talk about is the metallica Business and how godful he Handels IT!
Guess you dont care about their Music and Lars weak live Performance.
I bet you own a Lars Ulrich Shrine in your wardrobe
@@InRiquiem 😅😅😅😅 you idiot
@@InRiquiem its crazy how people focuse entire lars career drum skills on the low of the wave in last decade especially.
Yet in certain shows, he could still have his shit together and he s back on form since the couple of last tours.
However in the 80's to late 90's , he was a great drummer.
This is a fact.
In 1985, like this interview, you don't find weak performance from Lars .
Re watch the Hammer festival then talk.
San francisco from the same year.
Canada 1986, Danemark 1986, Sweden 1987 and i can go on and on even to 1995 from a start where Lars is a great drummer and beast of performer, as ian paice, quite focused, considering the some unusual places he did fills and stuff.
@@Nissardpertugiu Lars is a disciplined businessman and later albums expose a lack of formal education in music or even basic ear to pickup. He does not know how to write music at all but when the show is over they carted all the paper to the dressing room and they made money and survived. Drums are very easy to get by on without any skill as long as your actual music writers are good enough.
I wish having hair like that was still acceptable in public nowadays.
that would be so fun !
it wasnt acceptable in public and back then
It is
Fuck what is acceptable in public,specially when you are young.the only problem nowdays is the chicks, they ll think you are a freak or a junkie,i think.in addittion back then they might have digging this style,metal and rockstar look was hot back then
@@thodoris3790 exactly I think that's what he meant by "acceptable" : that this look would still be a common style you can find here and there. But I agree with you, no matter what the people we do whatever we want
It's heartbreaking and beautiful in equal measure seeing these two guys before their dear friend Cliff departed.
What a massive, awful, truly awful, painful thing to have happened.
Even now in 2022 it still must hurt.
-God bless you Cliff. Rest in peace.
You can really see how much older he looked after cliff’s passing. I guess from stress. I don’t blame him
You're talking about Lars or James ?
@ James of course
@@natehtf5760 yeah we agree !
Growing the stache, his hair got darker. Drinking everyday doesn't help
James looked older, but not in a bad manner. He was obviously going to the gym or something. In the Black Album tour he was fit like a wrestler. In this interview he is still thin. And he grew a bad ass moustache and beard.
Holy crap. I have that exact same shirt, alcoholica. My dad even got it at a 86 gig
Probably worth a ton man
Sell it to me
Lars eating an apple and James drinking a beer...
apple up your Ass
The apple that should not be
Eat the Apple (Ride the LIghtning)
And... Apples for all
That's a hard cider between the both of them.
That's what I was going to say!! 😆😆😆🤘🤘🤘 Beer is nothing new to the metal.. but buddy munching on an apple?! Lol
@@richardsanderson6460 Lars was very pecullar ans physical about his drumming then, and he s from a sport background before that.
Lars had probably the most balanced diet food routine of all of them( despite booze and coke later ).
Lars is a runner too
what a great interview! I've never seen it and what an exciting time for the band. I guess this would have been Ride the Lightening tour? They were probably already writing songs that would go on Master of Puppets.
This is Day on the green. Few days after this they flew to Copenhagen to record Master.
I started listening to Metallica probably 1 or 2 years after this interview,and lost my mind.🤪🤘🤘
I like how James has no clue what’s happening
He’s prolly drunk LMAO
@@aldawg922 I think it’s the opposite. He said he drank so he was less nervous and here he seems like he’s…..sweating bullets?
Crazy to think that they were 15 here. That's just incredible. Their parents must have been super proud!
Eh, a little older.... More like 22 or 23
@@Ryan_Q3L makes sense. That’s why they are well spoken!
@@adimitrov9006 they both were born in 1963 so they are 21 or 22 years old at that moment
@@viniciusoliveira8316 He was born in 1963. According to Wikipedia: Lars Ulrich R[2] (/ˈʊlrɪk/; Danish: [ˈlɑːs ˈulˀʁek]; born 26 December 1963) is a Danish[3][4] musician best known as the drummer and co-founder of American heavy metal band Metallica.
James father left when he was 13 and his mother died when he was 16 i know even tho his father was a scumbag james still bought him a house in the black album era funny enough when they were starting to get recognized his father showed up. but they were 22, 23 around this time. they were like 17-18 when they started the band in 81 tho
Metallica was huge without a single video back in the MTV days...I always respected that.
Lars saying the previous members didn't write anything kinda annoyed me, when Dave wrote 6 songs across those two albums at the time. Typical Lars
I wonder if James and Lars remember this interview today
Fantastic - thanks for this!!
All my pleasure ! Glad you enjoyed it !
@ Het - as quiet as a mouse isn't he??!! Great to see this kind of stuff exists - amen youtube and thanks again.
@@cyrilthesquirrel1546 yeah it feels like he's uncomfortable. Lars seems more confident. And no problem I'm happy to share that ! It's such a jewel
Lars : When Kirk and Cliff joined Metallica they contributed to more of the song writing of the band , where the other two members didn't . WTF is this guy talking about ? I mean Ron McGoveny didn't contribute lyrics or Riffs , but Mustaine absolutely DID . This just shows what a spiteful calculating jerk Lars was , and still is . It's no wonder Dave Mustaine has despised Lars for 38 years now . Dave Mustaine delivered 2 complete songs in 1981 to Metallica / Jump In The Fire and Mechanix that had nothing to do with Metallica . He then Co Wrote the Four Horseman . Mustaine then Co Wrote Phantom Lord and Metal Militia with James on the Kill Em All Album that had nothing to do with Ron McGoveny , Cliff , Kirk , or Lars . That's why recently Lars has harassed Mustaine into agreeing to add Lars' name to the writing credits of Phantom Lord and Metal Militia that Lars never had anything to do with writing . Mustaine told him to FU basically . Dave told Lars to go harass James to add Lars name on those 2 songs instead 😂 Dave Mustaine Co Wrote Riffs on the Ride The Lightning Album as well / Call Of Ktulu , Ride The Lightning songs . Metallica added Mustaine Riffs to Lepar Messiah on the Master Of Puppets album too .
I absolutely agree on that ! It's weird how Lars talks about that period of time...
Mustaine has credit co-writing 4 songs on kill em all , and 2 on ride the lightning. Compared to the rest of catalog up to that point it wasnt much. You are trying to make it sound like mustaine created what metallica is and that can be any further than the truth, if anything cliff contributed more to Metallica change of style music, heck even kirk . So he wasn’t really lying. Mustaine was in metallica for not that long. Mustaine and the guys in metallica have been friends for at least 20 years at this point. Even before some kind of monster documentary. But people like to recreate a story and romanticize something that is not true. The reality is that METALLICA WAS BIGGER THAN EVER WITHOUT MUSTAINE.
@@felipecavalera8729 You obviously can't read . I never said Mustaine created Metallica's sound or their overall success for the last 40 years .They had a sound and plenty of complete songs before Mustaine ever showed up in 1981 . But Dave did contribute to 4 Metallica songs He did contribute 2 complete songs he wrote alone that had nothing to do with Metallica . So yes , Lars was lying his ass off in this clip .
I instantly noted this and it's frankly outrageous how he disrespected Dave Mustaine in this interview. An authentic Lars!
@@Mysterio-Solar he wasn’t lying because cliff and kirk contributed more than dave up to that point, plain and simple. Not to even mention the music they had created and not put out up to the time of that interview.
James is an amazing human being bro
@7:47
Interviewer: "If Slayer was playing one end of town and you were playing on the other end of town, why would I see you?"
James: "Maybe you're not into satan."
LOL LOL LOL
Back when they were good And better days and times
1:38 imagine bringing the music for horsemen , jump in the fire , phantom Lord and metal militia , 4 of the 7 song demo that got metallica signed and then have people telling metal news outlets you didn't contribute or as if those songs or songs like Dave's " when hell freezes over " ( later to be ktulu ) didn't contribute to the sound of metallica
This is why he hated them lol
Mustaine is properly credited for all those songs, in the respective albums. In Kill'Em All they send special thanks to Dave Mustaine.
Exactly. I love Metallica, but Lars is often a jackwad and shows a high level of delusion here when he says, "the members before Kirk/Cliff didn't contribute...". Wait, what? I guess you quickly forgot that Mustaine was an original member who wrote the lyrics and/or guitar parts on 33% (6 of 18) of your first 2 records. Mustaine wrote at least 6 of the songs on the first 2 records, and essentially contributed a massive amount to your success in live performances pre-Kill Em All, which landed you the first album deal? GTFO. For those that didn't know this, Mustaine is credited on 4 out of 10 (40%) of the (non-covered) songs on Kill Em All, and 2 out of 8 (25%) on Ride the Lighting (long after Mustaine's departure they still stole his music), which is contrary to Lars' narrative here, e.g. they had so much contribute from Kirk, they were STILL using Mustaine's talented work after he was wrongly fired....
@@timsimmons9995 I saw Lars on howard and stern was like " so how many people at your first show , like 2 ?? " and laughed and Lars was like " no , more like 200 . me and James knew almost nobody but dave was king shit of Huntington Beach so a bunch of people he knew showed up "
Even so young they were so clued up about what they needed to be and where they were going.
i love the most replayed bit is why i came here and there isnt even comments of the time stamp lmao
James having a beer, Lars smacking on a apple. Say no more.
let us all please just hug PaPa Hetfield. I grew up with them in the 90's, and James is the reason I picked up guitar in highschool 18 years ago. I'm 33 almost 34 now. group hug lol.
I LOVE James’s shirt!!!
1985 - I'm watching an interview with the guys from Metallica and I turn my gaze to the guitar in the corner - shouldn't I learn the chords?
1986 - Master Of Puppets, Welcome Home (Sanitarium), Orion
1988 - Blackened, One
1991 - Enter Sandman, Nothing Else Matters
...
2022 in 5 days, I'm watching an interview with the guys from Metallica and I keep looking at the guitar in the corner - and don't I learn the chords?
Come on man it's never too late ! 😉 You'll be so glad afterward I promise ! It's so rewarding to be able to play songs you love 👍👍
@ Thank you for the good advice! I'm going to start looking at the guitar in the corner even more often now. And with a more gentle look))
forever known as the apple interview
Haha that's a good nickname yeh !
You know which channel I think is super underrated? Metal Piano Music. The guy spends weeks composing classic metal songs into relaxing piano pieces and he hardly gets any views. I love his arrangement of The Sentinel by Judas Priest. That dude deserves millions of followers 🤘🏻
I want James shirt!!
Oh yeah me too !!
I just want 80s james
Lars is a classic bullshitter... saying that previous band members before Cliff and Kirk didn't contribute to Metallica's music is complete trash. He clearly never liked Mustaine and cared only about his shit.
James is completely clear on what he's doing as a musician and voice of Metallica on the stage.
I think that James view of not over complicating things and rather humbly focusing on the music is what made him to connect so well with what he's doing as well with the crowd.
Thank you for sharing this video!
This was fresh, i agree they were not fair to Mustaine, both camp were pretty immature and talking shit on bits.
They were 20-21 then.
Its not good but looking back to it you can't hold a grudge on everyone's shoulder 40 years later.
I did shit in my teens, i said things somewhat exagerated things i probably would not say in my early 20's with a slightly erroned view.
So everyone s did.
I would be sorry for the guy that keep that grudge after you matured.
However Lars in MOP said in video and stuff that he absolutely loved Megadeth and Dave s music.
Since the days of internet, even though i have interviews of 1988 where Lars cover this..
There s a lot of backstage pics of Dave hanging on with Lars as early than 1985 , Cliff and even James all through the mid , late 80's to even woodstock 1999 who resurfaced.
So... Deep inside i think there s still a certain respect and love between them.
Why you would go backstage at metallica show or metallica members see Dave at Megadeth shows ( Lars even singing Arnachy in the UK with Dave in Monster of Rock 1988 ) and be backstage if they hated each other that much.
Media amplified this.
Sure they had few issues they didn't really resolved but that was way over exagerrated
Day on the GREEN August 31st 85. I was there. One of the hottest days at the close of summer. Every band had the time of their lives. The Scorpions killed that night.
Well informative interview James😆😂
Glam was so popular back then and it made me sick. Metallica came along and kicked metals ass. It was a much needed change.
Yeah they truly are pioneers, they have taken risks and kicked the trends !
Looks aside, there are great "glam" metal bands. Motley Crue's first couple of albums are very good. And WASP is a very good band as well.
Lars lies about Dave not writing material
Yes I know, but still this is interesting to hear about their mindset back then. We see that Lars is almost the only one speaking and that echoes how much he is involved in the writing process and mixing since the beginning.
Léon Bousquet yeah great interview I wish they had TH-cam back in them days and cellphones we could have seen some cool stuff
@@jbracingnewsreviews3381 Yeah Ahah I wish the same ! I also wish I was born earlier so I could be 20 in the 80's. There is a live called Cunning Stunts in 1998, if you haven't seen it go check that out man , it's some pure Metallica energy !! One year before my birth, missed the date Ahah
I'm not sure, I think Lars was the bands spokesman for a longtime before James became comfortable w himself, and u can see n most all older interviews w James he isn't a ppl person at all, and this is where most of the dark , introverted lyrics come from and is the reason I grew up loving Metallica and still do to this day , because I can relate one of the lyrical minds of his time ..... IMHO
@ still have my VHS copy of that one. Was a good set.
The interviewer asked why should someone see Metallica instead of another band like Slayer or Megadeth…fortunately, those three bands toured together about ten years ago
Did Lars just say DM didn’t help write songs? Oh snap!
The best thing they did after Cliff died, was to be headliners for Master tour.....seeing them in small venues, usually reserved for plays etc, was epic! Best show I ever saw!! You had to be a fan to get tickets!! (Metal Church opened in Winnipeg @ the playhouse theatre)
They were already headlining when Cliff died. I also saw them later with Jason with Metal Church opening, at Maple Leaf Gardens!
Pour moi c'est les plus belles années de Metallica ❤
I downloaded this video off Napster long ago.
Lars sounded so danish when he was young
Heavy Metal Day on the Green was jam packed, it sure looked like a very successful event. I don't understand why it was never repeated.
1:43 best line ever. like really Lars???
1:41 Lars completely ignoring the fact that Mustaine laid the foundations for a couple tracks off their first two albums lmao. Cool interview anyway though.
Totally dismissed Daves impact on their early sound and song writing. Took a lawyer to make Lars give Dave credit and owed money that Metallica made off his music.
Lars had the perfect hair
I love a rare interview on the biggest video sharing site in the world.
You love it so much to the point that you click on it so thanks man !
@ I like rare music on Spotify too.
James said europe is smaller, bro europe is twice the size of America lmao
You can't be a music beast and know your geo at the same time Ahah
You can fit 30 European countries in the Usa, and that was basically their circuit for bus touring back then
@@felipecavalera8729 USA has a population of 350 mil think europe got like 770mil
@@ultras3705 yeah but! Usa is larger in land and is more spread out, so thats the thing, driving in the usa takes longer to go from place to other place. In europe you can be in different cities in different countries within hrs
Love the shirt James is wearing
That skinny little guy is a master rhythm guitar player
Metallica are truly one of the greatest all time. Truth being no Dave Mustaine probably a different animal. Maybe still one of the greatest, we'll never know because 2 great bands were created.😎🤘✌🤘
Lars as usuall very elocuent, secure of himsel, and what he wants
Dave didn't impact the bands sound leaving...!?! His name is on writing credit for the first TWO albums and her introduced them to the spider riffing and picking. That's like Papa Johns Pizza trying to tell someone that Italy had no impact on their product...
Have you had Papa Johns Pizza? I think Italy would be just fine with having no connection to that.
@@chrisstapleton5652 Perhaps. But Papa Johns cannot claim credit (no matter how small) for their food on the one hand while saying there was no influence from Italy. What Italy wants is irrelevant.
spider riffing is the most shittiest technique ever...
@@RaOThRaSh Well coming from such a reputable source of some random TH-cam person...it's gotta be true... I guess the rest of the metal world (that emulates it) must have it "all wrong"...lmao
@@calypsoshoard9132 what? Begginer guitar players???
Lars keeps referring to the fans as “ the kids” he’s still a kid too back when this was done lol
Yeah that's funny ! Ego thing...
I read on Circus magazine that this guys are about to release their new album Kill'em all,I can't wait to go to Tower records and buy their LP
When they were still real men ... metal years ahhhhhh
I was fortunate enough to be at this show...on the grass on Cliff's side about 10 rows from the stage
He sounded really very danish in the 80s
To me his way of speaking hasn't changed that much throughout the years but maybe you're right
"My little danish friend" - Dave Mustaine
a fan here since '88!!!!
this is gold
Never realized how 'handsome' James was. When I think of the early days, I think of the facial hair and the zits! Almost looks like actor James Katt here, a la 'The Greatest American Hero.'
Cute couple.
This was the interview that infuriated Dave.
They should of kept dave
No, he wasnt good for Metallica he was drunk and sloppy before he was fired, getting fired was the best for both, they went on to write their greatest stuff and Dave showed the world eaht he was made of
@@deletedhero5579 just wanted to create some controversy , i like megadeth as much as mettalica , would of been good to see though hey ???
@@shaunaustralia9906 Haha it would certainly be interesting to see but I am glad things worked out how they did
No, because then we wouldn’t have Megadeth and I don’t wanna live in a world without Megadeth. Plus, I think that Mustaine is the one who wants to be in charge and Lars is also the one who wants to be in charge and when you put two people like that together there is going to be a lot of drama and clashing. You just can’t have two people like that in a band. Mustaine made his comeback and showed everyone how great he was….. Metallica showed everyone how great they were. So we, the fans, got the best of both worlds.
@@deletedhero5579 MEGTALLICA OR METALLADETH 🤘
"The difference is now the newer members Cliff & Kirk contribute to the songs while the previous members did not" - Lars. WOW! Really? Mustaine might have something to say about that! I think he had some ideas about songs...Megadeth anyone?
Agreed. I love Metallica, but Lars is often a jackwad and shows a high level of delusion here when he says, "the members before Kirk/Cliff didn't contribute...". Wait, what? I guess you quickly forgot that Mustaine was an original member who wrote the lyrics and/or guitar parts on 33% (6 of 18) of your first 2 records. Mustaine wrote at least 6 of the songs on the first 2 records, and essentially contributed a massive amount to your success in live performances pre-Kill Em All, which landed you the first album deal? GTFO. For those that didn't know this, Mustaine is credited on 4 out of 10 (40%) of the (non-covered) songs on Kill Em All, and 2 out of 8 (25%) on Ride the Lighting (long after Mustaine's departure they still stole his music), which is contrary to Lars' narrative here, e.g. they had so much contribute from Kirk, they were STILL using Mustaine's talented work after he was wrongly fired....
Pretty funny how Lars says that Mustaine didnt put anything in for the band the first couple years yet some of the best riffs off kill em all and ride the lightning were written by him. GRANTED, this was 35+ years ago and i believe they burried the hatchet but still lol
Man, in the album Kill Em All, they send special thanks to Mustaine and Ron McGovney. I don't think James, Lars, Cliff - much less Kirk - ever had a problem with Mustaine. Dave kept bashing them regularly, both in interviews and in live concerts, in the 80's, but they never responded to the provocations. There's an interview in which Cliff says about Mustaine's provocations: "He runs his mouth. And we run our business." Ahah.
That hatchet gets buried and then exhumed depending on what schizomood Dave is in at the moment. Metallica would’ve made it without his contributions, get over it. They had Seek and destroy they had Whiplash they had Hit the lights. Enough to make them stand out and enough to inspire Slayer and Anthrax and to light the spark of a new genre. Dave’s songs were great but they were not the single reason they got signed.
Jamez clearly has a hangover. Fixing it with a Heineken. LOL!!!
Mustaine didn’t contribute to Metallica???………I call BS on that for sure. Mustaine was and still IS a riff merchant.
I just realized that girl in the short shorts is probably 50 years old now
“Kirk and Cliff contribute to the song writing while those other guys didn’t” no wonder Dave hated this twat. Four Horsemen, Phantom lord, Metal militia, Jump in the fire, ride the lighting, call of Ktulu, Seek and destroy solo, Leper messiah( questionable ) all these have Dave’s credits on them. If you take the length of time Dave was in the band compared to Kirt Dave actually has a much higher song writing credit than the 40 years Kirk has been in the band
Yeah I agree with that, but Kirk with his own style, plays a role in how the songs sound like. It's not just about the writing process it's also about how it's interpreted
@ Thing is, the whole debacle with Kirk losing his phone with all of his "ideas", which only amounted to a collection of riffs, and that leading to his very limited creative contribution to the recent album, lends credence to the rumor, that he is not much involved in song writing, or song structure. He just provides solos to already mostly completed songs. And I don't think its controversial, to say that contribution peaked in the 90's.
Higher Songwriting Credit than Kirk? pls. Dave was in the band for a year and had 4 credits on Kill 'em All; On RTL, Kirk was in the band of for a year too, and Had Four on that album as Well. Dave had Two more on RTL, while Kirk Has Truck Loads more after that. Get your facts Straight.
And I think Lars fucked up on that. He was asked How the Band's Sounds Changed after the line-up change and he felt he had to Compare the line-ups to illustrate how, and he ran his mouth a little bit longer than he should. I don't think he honestly Believed that part about Dave, otherwise he wouldn't have Credited him at all and still to this day.
@@simplebutnotsolongname6642 you’re actually wrong on that. Kirt didn’t even write a single riff on their last album. You need to use google
@@simplebutnotsolongname6642 Kirt has 42 credits on over 40 years. That’s basically one credit a year compared to Dave’s 6. Sorry but you’re wrong
Miss those old days of metal. Grateful I grew up in that time. This is the 80s to me.
"Music is the main thing. How we look or dress doesn't matter to us." - Lars
*10 years later*
Eyeliner, gucci, GQ rock.
I remember seeing the "Load" booklet minutes after buying the CD. Unforgettable shocking experience.
Who cares? You cannot be a 20 year all your life phushing 60s. Its ridiculous.
What matters is what they stood for and the ground and the layers they founded. I see common peopole wearing prada shades. Why wouldn't he? He's got millions. That doesn't make him less heavy.
@@21753117 Some of the pictures are pretty cool. Actually, James and Jason look great in all pictures. Back then, I wanted that leather Metallica jacket very badly. Lars and Kirk did adopt some aesthetic options that I would not follow, though.
That's mainly kirk not the rest of the guys
It’s called growth and change. And it’s why they are still around.
Lars: "I think the only thing that changed a bit was that when Kirk and Cliff jointed the band they contributed to the songwriting ends of things which the two other members didn't....." He must have forgotten about a guy named Mustaine.
For me personally, my enjoyment for their music ended with ...And Justice For All.
Everything else after that was mediocre at best.
I enjoyed Death Magnetic personally, the sound is big and there are some really heavy riffs. But I do agree that And Justice For All is one of their best albums
You must not confuse personal tastes with quality. If you are not a musician, opinions will never count as proper reviews. I will never understand how people who can't play a single scale on the guitar, make their careers by writing reviews about music. That's like a virgin woman writing a review of a Silvia Saint porn movie ahahah.
James tshirt says it all!!! I loved it!!
LARS IS STILL EATING
Lara definitely had a clear vision of what he was setting out to do.