The Four Horsemen & The Mechanix - The Metallica & Megadeth Story

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  • @againnotavailable
    @againnotavailable ปีที่แล้ว +1649

    Wait, what? This is not an official documentary, but only a fan-made one? Are you kidding me? It was one of the best things I've watched on the internet, well done, buddy. Really appreciated and enjoyed it.

    • @MartijnVos
      @MartijnVos ปีที่แล้ว +56

      This is absolutely professional level. This should be on TV. In the cinema perhaps. Make it happen.

    • @mikanyyssis
      @mikanyyssis ปีที่แล้ว +37

      This was absolutely one of the best documentaries ever. Made me laugh, made me cry and made me go to my childhood memories.

    • @prizz9917
      @prizz9917 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Loved this because I grew up with all of these guys! And 2 of the best bands ever created! We are the lucky ones! Bless them all for sharing there gifts with us.

    • @jurgenv.6030
      @jurgenv.6030 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah, it's great!

    • @joeallen1410
      @joeallen1410 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Agreed

  • @scottudell7202
    @scottudell7202 ปีที่แล้ว +326

    So cool hearing Kirk talk so much about Cliff and how they bonded. Cliff and James were close, but Cliff and Kirk were VERY tight.

    • @VoVilliaCorp
      @VoVilliaCorp ปีที่แล้ว +13

      you really hear it in master of puppets too

    • @deadmanrunning6670
      @deadmanrunning6670 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      One thing I noticed is that fuckin' Kirk has a fuckin' way with fuckin' words!

    • @NoahParker98
      @NoahParker98 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You’re wrong brother , they were all right but James and Cliff were closer than anyone .

    • @dreamofyouandi
      @dreamofyouandi ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NoahParker98kirk and cliff roomed together for basically cliff’s entire tenure whenever they were on tour. they were like brothers. james and cliff were also very close.

    • @morgellon7877
      @morgellon7877 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Kirk and Cliff used to trip together on psychedelics; I read an interview with Kirk Hammett where he talked about it. Tripping with someone can form a very close connection with that person. James and Lars weren't into that hippie shit, haha.

  • @bladerunner1b
    @bladerunner1b ปีที่แล้ว +612

    It all worked out perfectly in the end we got two great bands. The biggest tragedy is of coarse Cliff.

    • @jamescarter8693
      @jamescarter8693 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As it was meet to u worded it perfectly

    • @endimverpeilt9770
      @endimverpeilt9770 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I agree. But at least we got some great Albums with Cliff. 3 Albums that changed a Lot in music

    • @Godloveszaza
      @Godloveszaza ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@endimverpeilt9770 it feels refreshing to see fans admire cliff and not newsted. Newsted was extremely overrated for obvious reasons he was a great performer.

    • @immastranger6752
      @immastranger6752 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Coarse?

    • @minners71
      @minners71 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@immastranger6752 Yeah he obviously left school early. *course.

  • @trelard
    @trelard ปีที่แล้ว +132

    "This doesn't claim to be documentary of any sort...". Dude, this is probably the most concise history of Metallica/Megadeth I've ever seen. From start to present day, via footage that explains so much as to the timeline. Thank you.

    • @michaelguernsey1206
      @michaelguernsey1206 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Dude this was great! I’ve been wanting to hear more of how they viewed eachother and their history, and this really dove into that. Amazingly made!

  • @jomiran1000
    @jomiran1000 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    This documentary is an absolute treasure. Wonderfully done! I grew up with "The Big Four". I had Metallica, Megadeth, and Anthrax posters everywhere (Christian mom drew the line at a Slayer posters). This documentary brought back so many memories.

    • @InGrindWeCrust2010
      @InGrindWeCrust2010 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I love that interview that went something like, "Why would you listen to Metallica instead of Slayer?"
      Hetfield: "You're not into Satan?"

    • @NikkieRoxxx
      @NikkieRoxxx 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Jesus was jewish!!

  • @hunterjessup
    @hunterjessup ปีที่แล้ว +272

    Kirk losing his guitar to the crowd has to be one of the funniest moments in metal history😂

    • @machineman541
      @machineman541 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      That's so Kirk like lol...

    • @machupikachu1085
      @machupikachu1085 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      how about losing his Iphone?
      too soon?😂

    • @stacynortham3034
      @stacynortham3034 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@machupikachu1085 hahaha that was a good one. Not too soon in my opinion

    • @tonyblackburn5002
      @tonyblackburn5002 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm so glad the 4 horsemen is what won over the mechanic.

    • @killasynnaact8819
      @killasynnaact8819 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@tonyblackburn5002 the mechanix* I enjoy mechanix 10x better than the four horsemen

  • @leegoddard2618
    @leegoddard2618 ปีที่แล้ว +338

    Ron McGovney seems like a humble man, and Not bitter. Good on him. 👍

    • @arthurballs9632
      @arthurballs9632 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      He said some hilarious things about the first jam he and James had with Lars. Wasn't impressed with his ability

    • @morgellon7877
      @morgellon7877 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I can definitely relate to his mindset. He didn't want a pickle; just wanted to ride his motorcicle.

    • @mootbooxle
      @mootbooxle ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@morgellon7877he didn’t wanna die. he just wanted to ride his motorcy.
      cull.

    • @soul_Link12
      @soul_Link12 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      He was way too genuine to be a rock star.

    • @seanm6311
      @seanm6311 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He's no drama queen. 👍

  • @richard_4stringmf178
    @richard_4stringmf178 ปีที่แล้ว +358

    Listening Lars admiting that he was proud of Dave's Peace sells back then is wholesome tbh. Even after all the stuff that happend he was still able to admit that he was doing great is huge

    • @chrisharding5447
      @chrisharding5447 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Lars was still denying fans for Napster then. Poor
      Lil potatoe....

    • @richard_4stringmf178
      @richard_4stringmf178 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@chrisharding5447 What connection does your commentary have with mine?

    • @jonstiffer4994
      @jonstiffer4994 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richard_4stringmf178 None, but people who grew up with the internet are still pissed Lars tried to hinder them from getting everything for free.

    • @kamiljastrzab7784
      @kamiljastrzab7784 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ​@@chrisharding5447 if a thief is at your house what do you do?
      Do you give him your most valuable things or do you fight back?
      Next fuc*ng time you want to write bs like that just use your brain, it does NOT hurt.

    • @robinyt4155
      @robinyt4155 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thx.

  • @1realtruthrightnow742
    @1realtruthrightnow742 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I can't believe this video is fan made. This is beyond professionally done. Way to go, and thank you for putting this togethor.

  • @d3vilm4ster
    @d3vilm4ster ปีที่แล้ว +116

    44:18 This is the most brutal and honest reflection of the past I have ever heard!
    Dave is brutal and of course a really gifted person

    • @sixpath
      @sixpath 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      too easy to cry there when it all hits home..

    • @stickiedmin6508
      @stickiedmin6508 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He's a bully, a narcissist and a hypocrite. Don't fool yourself.

    • @stickiedmin6508
      @stickiedmin6508 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What bullshtt. "No warning?"
      The _warning_ was the day he decked James and threw Ron across the room.
      He's still trying to pretend it was someone else's fault.

    • @SabbathEnjoyer
      @SabbathEnjoyer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stickiedmin6508 james full on kicked a dog you dont fuckin do shit like that

    • @gkkuter
      @gkkuter 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@stickiedmin6508I saw it as it was just a bad situation and Dave had it all muddled up in his head so when 20 years later he really just wanted an apology and I think he just was highlighting how it made him felt kinda trying to get an apology

  • @garyrouleau4676
    @garyrouleau4676 ปีที่แล้ว +265

    Love him or hate him Dave is brutally honest and you have to respect a man who can look you in the eye and say you hurt me and that’s not okay!

    • @Betrayerslayer
      @Betrayerslayer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Put Gary in! Where'z Gary!!!!?

    • @stickiedmin6508
      @stickiedmin6508 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      He's not honest.
      He's still trying to pretend that everything that happened to him was someone *_else's_* fault. He's got nobody but *_himself_* to blame.
      When he learns to take a bit a accountability for his own actions, _then_ we can start calling him honest.

    • @bengagnon6947
      @bengagnon6947 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@stickiedmin6508dam rights... when you fuck up in life you live with the consequences! I get it... it sucks but give your nuts a tug and remind yourself your a man

    • @jone8626
      @jone8626 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@stickiedmin6508 Man did you even WATCH The video till the end?
      Man you clearly still hate him and is one of those who yells Metallica at him.

    • @stickiedmin6508
      @stickiedmin6508 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jone8626
      What is it you think I got wrong? Be clear please?

  • @elskeletor3566
    @elskeletor3566 ปีที่แล้ว +634

    Metallica unknowingly created a Monster named Dave Mustaine which lead to Megadeth being born. Really enjoyed watching this video hearing from all the guy's.

    • @cheranguista
      @cheranguista ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Mustaine always have been a trouble; he has fired or else by a lot of musicians , he is a problematic man, i love Megadeth by the way

    • @antoniocenteno1483
      @antoniocenteno1483 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Dave Mustaine, the alcoholic created Dave Mustaine the vengeful wich led to Megadeth, Metallica only kicked him out after he almost killed them in a car crash in the way to NY for the recording of KEA.
      Dave Mustaine also invented Heavy Metal, the Bible and Guitar Playing as we know it by the way, he wrotte´em all, from Paranoid to Combustion, from The Fame Monster to the slim shady EP

    • @ayan8136
      @ayan8136 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ​@@antoniocenteno1483 this man is speaking the truth.

    • @davidrockey7190
      @davidrockey7190 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      And thank God cuz his band blows Metallica away. 🗿

    • @ayan8136
      @ayan8136 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@davidrockey7190 🤨

  • @crashburn3292
    @crashburn3292 ปีที่แล้ว +1604

    After 40+ years of watching Lars Ulrich act like Metallica's designated spokesperson during interviews while James and Kirk sit quietly, seeing him accuse Dave Mustaine of talking too much is HILARIOUS.

    • @Skeevee
      @Skeevee ปีที่แล้ว +23

      That was Cliff not Lars.

    • @crashburn3292
      @crashburn3292 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@Skeevee - Huh? 3:25

    • @andersistbesser
      @andersistbesser ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Its ulrichs band, he founded it

    • @crashburn3292
      @crashburn3292 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      @@andersistbesser - He and Hetfield founded Metallica, most fans know that and I've known that since the mid 80's. You entirely missed the point.

    • @flipnap2112
      @flipnap2112 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@andersistbesser a band belongs to everyone in the band. you dont see Steve Harris acting like that.

  • @Horrorgang
    @Horrorgang ปีที่แล้ว +56

    This is absolutely amazing… blown away about how you took all the interviews from both sides and boiled it down to an happy ending. Long live these bands and the Big 4!

  • @e.s.channel1526
    @e.s.channel1526 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Total respect towards Dave for being so truthful about the pain of parting ways instead of playing the tough guy who doesn't care.

    • @jarnohams9214
      @jarnohams9214 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      But not recognising his own destructive behaviour got him kicked out. Hate was his motivation. That's why he never enjoyed the success.. until he got clean. After that he was less hateful

  • @prestonedmonds4128
    @prestonedmonds4128 ปีที่แล้ว +571

    The fact that Mustaine went on to be as successful as he was says a lot. I love his riffs and lyrics.

    • @paulbuchanan9914
      @paulbuchanan9914 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Megadeth > Metallica. Only when it really has to count.

    • @brapamaldi
      @brapamaldi ปีที่แล้ว +33

      the rust in peace album will always have a spot in my heart. metallica released a rock album but dave and co brought out a ball tearer of an album to keep thrash alive just that little bit longer.

    • @Audfile
      @Audfile ปีที่แล้ว

      That voice though. Ewwwugh.

    • @kenduffy5397
      @kenduffy5397 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      ⁠@@brapamaldi
      Let’s call it for what it really was; I’m a Dave guy too: “Let’s kick out a really talented guitar player… Wait… he’s a BADASS shredder? (at the time) We need to kick him out because his an emotional guy.. he writes his own songs… we want to keep one or two of them as Metallica song’s.. he speaks his mind… oh & by the way; he just so happens to be the best looking guy and he’s getting all the girls! Yeah, let’s send that pretty momma’s boy back home!”
      That’s the way I see it? What say you brapamaldi?

    • @_Clem_H_Fandango_
      @_Clem_H_Fandango_ ปีที่แล้ว +21

      You can hear when they ran out of Dave's material. Justice was the first album that they had to write all the material without Dave.

  • @garymorris216
    @garymorris216 ปีที่แล้ว +223

    I've been a serious Metallica/ Megadeth/ Thrash metal fan for 35 years and seen countless videos and documentaries on the history, and this was SERIOUSLY GOOD. It's really hard to find things like this with footage I've never seen before because I've seen so much over the years. But this had TONS that I've never seen before with some tidbits of old favorites thrown in as well. VERY GOOD job on this video! 🤘🤘🤘

  • @jamesmccarry6730
    @jamesmccarry6730 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    I have been listening to them since 1984 and seen every documentary out there. This is by far the greatest piece of work I have yet to witness regarding the foundation of these bands. Incredible work.

  • @shodanart
    @shodanart ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Very moving and love the way it ended with Dave Mustaine invited to play on stage with Metallica and could do all the solos he wanted, “brought closure,” then, the “Big Four” on stage. 🖤

  • @leemackay888
    @leemackay888 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have seen all the documentaries on megadeth and metallica , this is probably the best one yet, thanks for putting this together man!!

  • @daveyboyd784
    @daveyboyd784 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    Blending the stories of Metallica and Megadeth together in this particular style was nothing short of sheer brilliance, this was a fcking masterpiece!!! The anticipated duality was present in what I had presumed to be the same old oppositional perspective as it initially expounded upon the typical conflict and strife as usual, but I began to notice this slowly give way to the underlying consilience in the overall shared experience when looking at the bigger picture through the eyes of all involved in a singular viewing. This evolution in presentation allowed me to see all the sht that I've seen a million times before in a whole new light as well as giving me a renewed appreciation for the roles that every one of these guys played in creating an entirely new sound that changed my life in a profound way very early on. This never could've been achieved without giving very careful consideration to arrangement and order of appearance, this _clearly_ was not a matter of simply chopping these documentaries up, shuffling scenes around and slapping them back together again. This was meticulously thought out and implemented with near perfection, I honestly feel like whoever put this together could have a successful career in this field. I sat down to have dinner thinking that I'd watch yet another rehashed, ubiquitous Metallica Bay Area thrash scene doc while I ate and was proven dead wrong in the best way possible.

    • @pitchforkpeasant6219
      @pitchforkpeasant6219 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hell yeah ✌️😁🤟

    • @bluebehir
      @bluebehir ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The blending made me appreciate a little more the response style of Mustaine. He had to out-Metallica Metallica. They were called Metallica so he was called Megadeth. Their first album was Kill Em All, so his was Killing Is My Business.
      He would have been difficult to be around for sure, but his musical genius went unparalleled. Except it was parallel with Metallica. So ... wait. I see what I did there.

    • @catofthecastle1681
      @catofthecastle1681 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Presumptuous!

  • @MartijnVos
    @MartijnVos ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I really loved all those scenes with Dave talking with his former bandmates. Tons of respect for him, for all of them.

  • @martinuwh
    @martinuwh ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I was so tired and needing my bed when I started this, but an hour and a bit later it was an hour of my life that I will never regret spending. A huge thank you to the author of this video for their efforts: it must have taken so much work, but that work is really really appreciated.

  • @CognitiveDissident.
    @CognitiveDissident. ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was madly in love with Metallica in the 80s. I gained a lot of respect for Dave Mustaine today December 3rd 2023. Thank you for putting this together.

    • @chrenster3
      @chrenster3 ปีที่แล้ว

      As a life long Megadeth fan, I gained a lot of of respect for Kirk Hammett when I watched his interview on Icons. Kirk is the glue that keeps Metallica together. Dave was lighter fluid. And I love Dave, but he belongs in and IS Megadeth.

  • @javierk2143
    @javierk2143 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    The other 3 members bullying Jason is the worst that Metallica had done

    • @tertiaryobjective
      @tertiaryobjective 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Ron also, Ron seems like an all around good guy.

    • @daniellapointe2624
      @daniellapointe2624 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      What they did to Dave was brutal

    • @deletedhero5579
      @deletedhero5579 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@daniellapointe2624Not really, they were right to fire him

    • @sole__doubt
      @sole__doubt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He could have quit if he couldnt take it. Its so sad how soft men are today. Complaining about bullying in a metal band... Unreal.

    • @PRIMAL73
      @PRIMAL73 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They never let Jason write anything. He had to play what they wrote, just like the new guy is doing now. But hey I would have agreed to join Metallica for a million dollars. In some kind of monster They told him after auditions when they chose him. They told him, were are willing to give you a million dollars to join Metallica. Hell yeah!

  • @Ledmetacdc
    @Ledmetacdc ปีที่แล้ว +99

    This was really well done, and you used all the clips I would have chosen too, including that horrible clip of James and Lars on the radio right after Dave was fired. I'm sure if they ever heard that again they'd be so embarrassed in retrospect. Thanks for making this!

    • @Scrubermensch
      @Scrubermensch ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not Lars, for sure, he'd probably joke about it

    • @Ledmetacdc
      @Ledmetacdc ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @Übermensch nah he's said a bunch of times since the 30th anniversary that he really respects Dave. James still doesn't really like him which is sad. He's called him a big mouth and delusional in the last 10 years. Lars has said he doesn't like talking bad about Dave since the 2001 meeting in some kind of monster.

    • @chris_schoff
      @chris_schoff ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I seriously thought that was Dave that called in on the radio

    • @Ledmetacdc
      @Ledmetacdc ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @chris_michael_s not the same interview, the one you're interviewing is actually funny. The one I'm talking about is from 83 and they say some really awful stuff about how he was talentless and how they thought the whole thing with the bus was funny and etc

    • @official_alexthemetalhead
      @official_alexthemetalhead 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can someone put the timestamp of this clip?

  • @johnchedsey1306
    @johnchedsey1306 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    For something not intended as a documentary, this is a solid labor of love throughout. Also, hearing Motorhead cover Heroes gets me every time.

    • @elLooto
      @elLooto ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Motorhead always did the best covers.

    • @ZackMorris1015
      @ZackMorris1015 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not denying Motorheads covers but Type O Negative has amazing covers on their albums (and b-sides) as well.

  • @MrThumpal
    @MrThumpal ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Honestly this was so humanizing for Dave. Ill never look at him the same way again.

    • @Betrayerslayer
      @Betrayerslayer ปีที่แล้ว

      Ditto. Keep Thimplin'Thumplin'' them keys, omma cum

    • @frenchllama7363
      @frenchllama7363 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah me neither. The part at the end when he talks to Lars was so humanizing to him. You can tell that he had thought about what he was saying and Lars was listening to him.

    • @Its_LumberJack
      @Its_LumberJack 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Yeah Dave gets a really bad rep. Mostly from Metallica fanboys that are fixated on the rivalry between bands. Dave definitely had a huge chip on his shoulder which resulted in him being kicked out, but there's so much more to the story that people don't know and try to make up shit about him. I'm a fan of both bands and can sympathize with both in the situation, but you can really see the betrayal that Dave felt. I'm so glad that it happened that way though because Megadeth truly has some amazing music that changed my life.

    • @Lovegun.
      @Lovegun. 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      If Dave didn't have that chip on his shoulder, Megadeth wouldn't be as hard, fast or heavy. His anger basically sustained him for that period and made him a legend. He basically started Megadeth to get back at them. There should be a movie made about it. What a story.

  • @7Pendragon
    @7Pendragon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What an AMAZING documentary! I’m in the last few minutes, and I read a comment that this is FAN MADE!? I didn’t even realize it until the end. Best Metallica and Megadeth documentary I’ve ever seen by far. Unbelievable talent you have man! I really enjoyed it and I learned so much. Thank you sincerely. 😎🤙🏼🎸🥁

  • @froosfroos
    @froosfroos 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve been listening to and following these two bands for about 38 years and this compilation still deepens my love for these guys!
    This was soooo amazingly put together! A bunch of interviews seen before as well as some hidden treasures. Well done!

  • @RNicolasRuvalcaba
    @RNicolasRuvalcaba ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Very nostalgic. I saw them a few times at that tiny club called The Woodstock concert theater in Anaheim, CA with Dave and Ron. Slayer also came up playing at the same club and one night Metallica and Slayer played on the same bill. I remember Metallica selling t-shirts out of the back of an old green station wagon in the parking lot and till this day that original black "Metal Up Your Ass" shirt is the only Metallica shirt that I'll wear.

  • @decomboiopelaeuropa3488
    @decomboiopelaeuropa3488 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    That ending with Motorhead's version of Heroes was epic, well done!

  • @davidsherman7868
    @davidsherman7868 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    This is, by far, the most telling and well-put together documentarian effort, of the lives and struggles of these two bands. Well documented and enlightening. Thank you for all within the making of this piece. Excellent!!!

  • @ozharms
    @ozharms ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is an INCREDIBLE documentary. I love how it shines on both bands equally. I love both Metallica and Megadeth. Great work. 🤘🤘🤘🤘

  • @johnerickson4064
    @johnerickson4064 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is extremely impressive, one of the best documentaries I've ever seen, great job

  • @gymonstarfunkle136
    @gymonstarfunkle136 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I actually find it really cool that Mustaine's entire motivation for Megadeth was revenge. There's something just so..... relatable about that. He could have reflected on his alcoholism and maybe thought about the kind of person he wanted to be, but no, I'm gonna make a new band that's more metal than Metallica. I actually think that's a great way to respond to bouts of intense self-reflection. Mustaine only played guitar on demand, but as long as he kept playing that probably kept him aligned with his better self and away from becoming an even worse alcoholic.

    • @aboutafew
      @aboutafew หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's what men that drink are like..some do it from the gutter some do it from their own jet air plane

  • @Metal_Horror
    @Metal_Horror ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I think Dave really considered them friends and they meant a lot to him even though as a fucked up kid he couldn't express it. And the rest of the band didn't feel the same way.
    Some people can hit you in the face and get their ass kicked and that's normal to them--hell it's part of being family. Especially when alcohol is put into the mix. It doesn't really mean shit to you and you're surprised when people flip out over it. You're like well shit I didn't think you'd be THAT pissed off about it. I don't think he saw it coming and maybe if he'd have known history would have gone down a little differently.

  • @ludwiksputnik
    @ludwiksputnik  ปีที่แล้ว +343

    (EDIT) 1 Million ! This is fantastic, thank you all so much🥳

    • @DirtyDovi
      @DirtyDovi ปีที่แล้ว +6

      🤘

    • @aussiemoe9426
      @aussiemoe9426 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      177 subs- 58k views in 10 days, you just dropped a banger, sir. Congrats.

    • @linusmeningitis2031
      @linusmeningitis2031 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Haven't yet watched the rest of your content but if it's as good as this was I'm fuckin hooked man
      Seriously great stuff, much love

    • @peterparsons6008
      @peterparsons6008 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kiiiijjkjjj

    • @shanesmith734
      @shanesmith734 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great job man. I really enjoyed this.

  • @threeballedtomcat9380
    @threeballedtomcat9380 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This was 100% entertaining and probably the best comparison/explanation of the Metallica/Megadeth connections that I have ever seen. I thought I knew most of it, but I was wrong.
    Great job, really. This was the best I have ever seen on this subject.

  • @johnnywishbone932
    @johnnywishbone932 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Wait this was made by a fan? This was incredible and after all these years it made the connection between two of my favourite bands.
    Much love my man. This was amazing! ❤

  • @MRBooze-yl6it
    @MRBooze-yl6it ปีที่แล้ว +12

    47-year-old man I appreciate Metallica and Megadeth just Metallica gave me ride the lightning the first song I ever heard by them in Megadeth gave me hangar 18 the first song I ever heard from them. I’m glad it didn’t work out for Dave with Metallica because we got Megadeth And I love both these bands and I’ve seen them both and had a blast at each show. Thank you for awesome music.

  • @theoriginalemissary422
    @theoriginalemissary422 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Watched every second. VERY well-made video. Props.

  • @UziNineMillomeetah
    @UziNineMillomeetah ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Great video. Dave gets a bad rap sometimes, much of which is his own doing, but Megadeth cannot be denied. Their last two albums crush the last few Metallica offerings.

    • @Betrayerslayer
      @Betrayerslayer ปีที่แล้ว

      Pee Diddlezy rapped bout him

    • @Die_Vik
      @Die_Vik 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Betrayerslayerinform me

  • @Sonic-gy7kq
    @Sonic-gy7kq 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Some of my best friends i've met through "Can I bring my friend along", then the person who introduced me to his friend I don't even remember their name but the friend is some of the best friendships I've had. Odd phenomena. Like Lars described how he met James.

  • @mroc7113
    @mroc7113 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That was fantastic . I’m about to be 53 got into Kill Em All in early ‘84, and it was game over . I bought Ride The Lightning , new , off the shelf and here I am 43 years later ..
    Metallica might be my favorite , but man Mega-Dave is such a savage . Rust in Peace might be the best album of both Megadeth AND Metallica’s entire catalogs .
    This was far & away the best doc ive seen on these bands,
    Thanks to much for putting this together & telling the story of some of my all-time favorite musicians .

  • @PNW_Wolfpack_Adventures
    @PNW_Wolfpack_Adventures ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great doc. Cool to see it come full circle and have closure, not only for dave, but all the guys that have been part of both bands and the big four

  • @Flexapr
    @Flexapr ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great video! I’m 52 and a drummer since February 1988. My 55yo guitarist brother and 50yo bassist brother used to regularly rehearse RUSH songs @ Secret Studios (A, B & C) @ 250 Napoleon St here in my native San Francisco, Metallica’s former practice slot.

    • @Betrayerslayer
      @Betrayerslayer ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok, yer hired. BRing the PlasterCaeter broads. Imma bwanna bang em, oi.

    • @Betrayerslayer
      @Betrayerslayer ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok, yer hired. BRing the PlasterCaeter broads. Imma bwanna bang em, oi.

  • @raiospartaonick
    @raiospartaonick ปีที่แล้ว +25

    imagine a world without Metallica and Megadeath , this 2 bands had to exist and only this 2 guys had the talent to do it !

  • @Ruggio-iq7tw
    @Ruggio-iq7tw 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Whoever you are that created this video, God bless you.
    Out of so many reasons I'll just mention one.
    You realize Metallica has now catered to 3 to 4 decades/generations.
    That's how many people and how many kinds of people you're making happy with this video.
    All respect and appreciation to all whom have made Metallica.

  • @milosbar
    @milosbar 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This was masterfully edited and really emotional.

  • @UncleBS1976
    @UncleBS1976 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is now an “official” documentary. Because it is that fucking good! Thank you sir, for the video

  • @claytondenton2385
    @claytondenton2385 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I never thought cliff hated mustaines playing with a passion but from the sound of his voice and the words tell it all.
    Makes sense why they didn't give him a second chance

    • @psychobillynumbnuts1
      @psychobillynumbnuts1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Where did you get that from?

    • @rippywilliams2139
      @rippywilliams2139 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      20:07 is Cliff talking

    • @AU10ZC
      @AU10ZC ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I could have sworn that was James.

    • @axxion231
      @axxion231 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@rippywilliams2139thats james talking

    • @morgellon7877
      @morgellon7877 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dave really wasn't much a lead guitarist in those days. His real strength was in composing riffs, but even there he didn't really become a musical force to be reckoned with until Peace Sells... I'd like to think Cliff heard that album and that Dave ultimately earned the respect of Cliff as a musician, but Cliff died only a week and a day after its release, so it's highly unlikely, unfortunately.

  • @thelolguy007
    @thelolguy007 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This was very cool. Great to have all the time lines put into place. Awesome. Everyone who has been in a band knows that not everyone is built to be in a band.

  • @3peckeredgoat735
    @3peckeredgoat735 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Back in the 80's no one could touch Metallica, including Megadeth, but today Megadeth crushes Metallica and has since the death of Cliff Burton. It's unfortunate how far Metallica has fallen. There attitude was amazing in the early days, as a teenager it gave me an identity and purpose. I've been a working musician since 1989, that drive to play in bands is due to my love for Metallica, at least they gave us three good albums. Mustain is way underrated, if you think about his journey, it's pretty amazing, he played in two of the big four, and Kerry King played in Megadeth for a minute as well. Best story of perseverance in music ever. This is a really good documentary, there are tons of 'em, this one is definitely up there.

  • @gabefernandes356
    @gabefernandes356 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There are so many interviews in this that I’ve never seen and I thought I was the ultimate nerd about these two bands, this is a great video

  • @Lengsel7
    @Lengsel7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Truly excellent documentary. It's like what they say about getting a divorce, you don't get divorced from someone, you get divorced TO them. This docu depicted the same concept. People on a parallel course, working out the pain of a failed relationship and tragedy, in the face of what could have been.

  • @rippywilliams2139
    @rippywilliams2139 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I remember I was in 2nd grade, in elementary Boarding school. The dorm aides said this music was "the devil's music" but I loved that guitar sound so much. First song I ever heard was No Remorse and I listened to that song on tape about 100 times. I had to sneak out of the dorm and walk into the woods and I'd listen to that album for like 2 hours and then sneak into class. Awesome to see this how many years later. This was like 1985-86

  • @mikeprocyk2226
    @mikeprocyk2226 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've watched a TON of these look backs. This one is my favorite! We're putting together a Big 4 tribute band and I'm sending this to the boys🤘

  • @RichRobinson
    @RichRobinson ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You’ve done a superb job with this . Really appreciate the work. Thank you.
    Respect to all these musicians, what a journey they’ve been on. This is really about the humanity behind the music, rather than the music itself.

  • @JustinCole45
    @JustinCole45 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wow, Dave's voice sounds much better in this compared to when he performed this song in 2017. Absolutely great to hear!

  • @TigerPalmer
    @TigerPalmer ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Imagine if every band documentary was directed by a fan. This video was epic!

  • @jamesbeck3862
    @jamesbeck3862 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I still think there is a universe out there with Cliff and Dave still in the band!

    • @tabturn
      @tabturn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      100% there is. There's also a version of Metallica somewhere where you and I are in the band. The universe is infinite, or close enough 😅

  • @14percentviking
    @14percentviking 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Superb documentary. Better than anything I've ever seen on a TV!

  • @dereksendrak
    @dereksendrak ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can’t believe what a amazing job you did assembling this video!🤘🏻🤘🏻

  • @brichan1851
    @brichan1851 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rockin’ Rockumentary! Professionally done and gave me the answers to so many questions. Thanks a million for covering two of my favorite and most important bands in rock history!
    Instant subscriber! ❤❤❤❤

  • @brandonjackson5865
    @brandonjackson5865 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Something is cool about that picture with Dave and Kirk on the anniversary show. I never really done anything playing guitar but I remember when I started playing there was a fierce-ish competition between about a dozen of us who started playing around the same time. We’d talk trash about each other and eventually wind up jamming together and quickly find out that there was some things these other guys could do better than me and I could do some things better than they could but all the smack talking was just a part of it. Probably personal insecurities mostly lol . I think maybe there’s some of that at the professional level too.

  • @JohnnieDelong
    @JohnnieDelong ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Followed Dave through all of this, much respect for his shout out about Ron. He understands musicians.

  • @tronley77
    @tronley77 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I really love the most fitting tribute song to Cliff came from Megadeth “My Darkest Hour”

  • @666JohnMatrix
    @666JohnMatrix ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Randomly stumbled upon this documentary. Very entertaining and very well done! One hour just flew by.

  • @colmhain
    @colmhain ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bruh! I was in high school from '85. I've been a Metal Head ever since. These men have influenced my life immeasurably. I became a drummer because of this music. And this is one of the greatest documentaries on the subject I've ever seen. Well done, and thank you!

  • @riocronk3967
    @riocronk3967 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is a masterpiece! Such a great video from such a small channel.

    • @riocronk3967
      @riocronk3967 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      7 months later, this video has over 1 million views.
      Am I allowed to say... 'Told Ya!'?

  • @cedriccox8759
    @cedriccox8759 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was an amazing doc. Stuff I have seen before mixed with stuff I have never seen with dialog that matters. Well Done!!!

  • @dislikebutton4981
    @dislikebutton4981 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The ENTIRE Metallica/Megadeth story should be a series. Not a movie, a series. It is so rich in story and tragedy... the show would basically write itself. Get a great cast and have them learn the instruments so that they can mimic properly and get it done.
    There are so many angles and players in the story. There is something about the Newstead arc that is borderline twisted. A story of a well to do young man joining an iconic band fresh after losing their friend and being basically abused by them and then channeling the obvious frustration into some of the most grizzly pure performances on stage... thats just one arc.

    • @ludwiksputnik
      @ludwiksputnik  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would totally watch it

  • @AlienFrequency
    @AlienFrequency 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent documentary. I know a lot of it was compiled from many sources, but there were a lot of interviews on here that I'd never heard before.

  • @EricJochum-wb3ki
    @EricJochum-wb3ki ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Best Documentary on Metallica and Magadeath. Period.. great fn work

  • @emmanuelmarkakis804
    @emmanuelmarkakis804 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Let's call it fate that Metallica kicked Dave Mustaine to the curb and that gave him that fire and get his act together to start Megadeth . It probably took Dave Mustaine 25 years to get over this, but now Megadeth is one of the best speed metal bands ever. We all know Metallica has a huge following, great music, great marketing , great musicians ... But if you have heard the body of work Megadeth has done over the years - they blow the doors off Metallica .. Megadeth's complex riffs, technical playing, variety of styles, songwriting, Dave's voice and they still pumping out great albums/ CDs today, in 2017 and at the 59th Grammy Awards Best Metal Performance "Dystopia " Megadeth won .. They are so freaking good, Incredible band! ,,,,,,,,,,,, RIP Cliff Burton! just not the same without him.

    • @Q-gf8vb
      @Q-gf8vb ปีที่แล้ว +8

      There's a reason why Metallicas old stuff is the best...

    • @Lord_of_Dread
      @Lord_of_Dread ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Agreed. Dave being pissed off gave him the energy, focus and spite to make an even better band. I think he probably just looks at Metallica selling more records and feels like he missed out, but he wouldv'e mellowed out in tallica just like they did... and then we wouldn't have had decades of consistent, aggressive, more complex metal. His flaws and that energy were the necessary ingredients for better music, but I'm not sure he's ever been able to really see that. He did surpass metallica, even if the sales don't reflect that.

  • @AmranSidek
    @AmranSidek ปีที่แล้ว +5

    wow this documentary got me into tears....the history and the struggle..the death..friendship...

  • @jordanzylstra7913
    @jordanzylstra7913 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You sir are amazing for creating this gem. I’ve watched ‘em all and this one is my favourite. You’ve got sound bites in here from interviews I have never heard. I’d love to know some of the sources. Cliff em All really light a fire under my ass as a kid. The terrible VHS copy I was able to obtain.

  • @PhyrestorM13
    @PhyrestorM13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for this. I felt the love and passion, not to mention the sweat and tears that were poured into creating this masterfully made documenary. Loved every minute of it. The boys would be proud \m/

  • @martinc3295
    @martinc3295 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Best unofficial “Bio-pic” I’ve come across! Even though all us gen-x metalheads have seen numerous vids put out in regards to Metallica/Megadeth story and debate, this is by far the most enjoyable and pretty precise storyline I’ve seen by far. Can’t believe this was put out by a fan! Way to go, great work and thanks for bringing out the childhood metalhead in me! 🤘🏼

  • @arthurballs9632
    @arthurballs9632 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've never heard that story about Sweet Home Alabama being the inspiration behind that riff in the Four Horsemen. It's been my favourite Kill 'em All song for 30yrr, but i love it more now.

    • @lynskyrd78
      @lynskyrd78 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks i was,woundering what song that was ....

  • @thesnapperkeeper
    @thesnapperkeeper ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesome video.I heard them in 84 saw them in 86 with Cliff and still listen to those first 4 albums way too much 😂🤘🏻

  • @psychobillynumbnuts1
    @psychobillynumbnuts1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Honestly, came here to complain that isn't about thrash but about Metallica. But you had so much passion making this, I stuck around and enjoyed it 👍

  • @erikottens7536
    @erikottens7536 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Documentary!, came across it at 3am, thinking i was going back to sleep it grabbed me & watched it till the end, 2 great bands from my childhood, well time to get ready for work! a rockin good day to all.. MUYA !!

  • @dahosley4864
    @dahosley4864 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow thank you for making this, brought back memories, made me smile. One hell of a good job making this documentary, you have a real talent.

  • @Nafeels
    @Nafeels ปีที่แล้ว +9

    For a second I thought I’d be watching an hour of breakdown for Metallica’s The Four Horsemen. Instead, I learned a pretty impactful history of the thrash metal of the 80’s, pretty interesting nonetheless.
    I’m too young to experience the peak of thrash metal first hand like my dad, but whatever beef Dave had with the rest of Metallica really made thrash metal blossom into something that was consistently artistic and angry. Had it not happen the grunge era would most likely came quicker. Not saying it’s gonna be bad but the alternate reality scenario intrigues me. Great video.

    • @Missingnin69
      @Missingnin69 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm not sure if that's entirely true. The angst and aggression of chromatic highly distorted fast paced power chords is kinda separate musically from whatever aggression Dave experienced post-metallica

  • @ina.aaahhh
    @ina.aaahhh 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think we all knew what was coming when Orion started playing in the background at 36:14 when they were talking about the European tour... Rip Cliff

  • @DragonDyce
    @DragonDyce ปีที่แล้ว +3

    two of the greatest bands of all time, so great we get to listen to both bands

  • @Giorgos-69
    @Giorgos-69 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing documentary !! And even though my English isn't perfect, I watched it like a movie that you don't want to miss a word of. I recently had to translate some. I feel all these guys as my real friends because I've been following them since I was 14 and now I'm 54 and I still listen to them and learn about them with the same passion as in my youth. I'm crazy about Metallica especially and of course I own all their records.
    This dedication to the big 4 is amazing and in a professional way.. Thank you very much Ludwik!

  • @bobbymakley73
    @bobbymakley73 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Perfect!!!! These guys were such a huge part of my life, I started listening when I was 13 I’m 51 now and still listening!!

  • @antoniocenteno1483
    @antoniocenteno1483 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    James Hetfield, Lars Ulrich and Dave Mustaine the Godfathers of Thrash Metal, the influence this three had on the whole thing is not easy to meassure. However, Kirk Hammett and Cliff Burton´s influence on the thing should not be left aside, this guys even wrotte a couple of classic thrash tunes even before it was a thing with metallica. The next is a list, as far as i know from books, videos and media, of the earliest thrash songs by Metallica and eventually Megadeth written before the demos or the solidifictaion of the line up:
    - For Whom the Bell Tolls: Intro and main body written in 1977 by Burton with videos of Cliff at that year performing the song with the band named Agents of missfortune
    .
    - Creeping Death: The Bridge, written at 1977 by Kirk Hammett, performed in 82´by Exodus as "Dy by his hand"
    - : Trapped under ice: 1980 Main Riff and body written by Hammett, performed at 82´by Exodus, dunno the name though but eventually they lifted the Riff for the 04´song "Impaler", Kirk contributed with a solo on that same album, Tempo of the damned, but on a different song. cool.
    - Hit the lights: 1981´, Written by Hetfield performed originally by the band Leather Charm, eventually the first song by Metallica, first apparence in Metal massacre demo, before Dave got in
    - The Mechanix: 1981´Written by Dave Mustaine, performed originally in a band he was in and then in the band Panic! band in wich Dave was discovered. Performed with the original name by the M until KEA where it was renamed The Four Horsemen, performed by MD as "Mechanix"
    - Pulling Teeth: 1981 (maybe even earlier), Performed by Burton more famously on the band Trauma, in wich he was discovered.
    - Motorbreath: 1982´Written by Hetfiled alone, not many data on it tho.
    - Jump In the fire: Written by Mustaine when in Metallica already, Lars put together the pieces so here we talk about a fully formed Metallica, therefore no need to mention the rest of the songs cause the band was already in.

    • @simplebutnotsolongname6642
      @simplebutnotsolongname6642 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      We also gotta give Kirk His credit, since he started one of the First Thrash Metal Bands, Exodus, earlier than Metallica.

    • @billsimmons2898
      @billsimmons2898 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did you forget about Iron maiden or Slayer, they were just as big in that time, Slayer is still belting out albums, their New Godless album was full of good stuff.

    • @antoniocenteno1483
      @antoniocenteno1483 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@simplebutnotsolongname6642 I didin't mention that cause Exodus, like Overkill, though appear a year before Metallica where bands that had nothing to do with Thrash yet, It was in 82' that they jumped the boat. But Kirk definetly deservws props for It, his conteibutions for exodus where mainly buried from the public eye though after the band gor Jelous when Kirk left. It's all good now anywaj.

    • @antoniocenteno1483
      @antoniocenteno1483 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@billsimmons2898 I focused on the guys that pushed the gente and of wich the video was about mainly. OFC Slayer had a lot to do with the thing at the begining. Maiden? Yes they are influential but had little to do with the scene, of all thing, must of the people cité Venom, Holocaut, Anvil, Saxon, Motorhead and The Misfits as more influential.

    • @wesbates1143
      @wesbates1143 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mustaine is recognized by many in the genre as THE guy that made Trash what it is.

  • @briantatge7081
    @briantatge7081 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thinking about it. The Megadeth/Metallica feud might be the greatest marketing campaign ever.

    • @shawnlindow9608
      @shawnlindow9608 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right up there with McDonald’s and Burger King……

  • @Giitzerland
    @Giitzerland 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love that Dave and Metallica split, it pushed him into creating a badass band of his own, and push the limits of metal in two directions, we got a two for one in that break up, and that's rare af!

  • @Melo_cl
    @Melo_cl 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is Gold, thank you for putting this together

  • @lovroasperger6178
    @lovroasperger6178 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is very well made! Was amazing watching it.

  • @C77-C77
    @C77-C77 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Lars:"Uhhhh we neeed a slowwww part in that song you wrote, Mechanix, and I don't want that to be the title of the song." Dave 30 secs later: "There ya go, thank Gary Rossington". That song is now known as 'Four Sweet Horsemen In Alabama'. Dave, your a crafty one my friend.

  • @tazmanic1081
    @tazmanic1081 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Awesome video and really appreciate your efforts. Thank you for including so much of the original members and their achievements 🤟🏻

  • @blasterofmuppets4754
    @blasterofmuppets4754 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I remember buying the first metallica Album in the 90s and man was that awesome. Then bought the second ... what an amazing record, then the third.... OMG so great and than I bought the fourth and it was kinda ok and that cool bass guitarist wasnt in the band picture and I thought "strange he must have left the band, man this sucks" and then someone told me died. Man I was so sad, that really got me. I later took up the bass to be like him although I switched to guitar after a while. I can still play Anaesthesia on bass guitar though 😀

  • @theplaguebearer666
    @theplaguebearer666 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy shit!!!! this is FANTASIC!!! this is editing and research just done perfect. Literally. I loved this Doco!

  • @michaelbradford4444
    @michaelbradford4444 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would have never thought a documentary about a heavy metal band would bring tears to my eyes but when the song Heroes came on and they were showing all the clips of all the great legends in music .... I say no more.