I tried pressing the red button couldn’t get it to do anything, however after reading up some more I found where it says I need to press it for 3 seconds to override it :) thx for the heads up
@Krypto Analyst Inclined to agree. I have a Noco 3.5 amp battery charger (G3500) and it's not that great to be honest, always getting fals positive readings on it. The dirt cheap charger I bought in 1988 is much better and more robust. Only bought the Noco because my motorbike had a lithium battery. Won't be buying Noco again.
No experience of the other two but the Audew usually needs to be disconnected then reconnected about 2 or 3 times before it will start the big engine. It's just the way the circuitry works.
I have an Audew but I opened the boost box and hooked the relay looking connection direct so it doesn't break the connection while cranking and now I can power any 3500 diesel truck with it.
Why people don't read the manual? First and for most, this booster can start up to 6 liter diesel engine. It says on the box, therefor asking it to do a job it's not qualifying to do is not fair. Secondly, when the battery is dead the device can't sense the dead battery therefore you have to press the override button. I have the GB 70 and it doing very good where others fail.
I have the NOCO GBX75 and according to the specs it is able to start diesel vehicles up to a 6.5L. It has started my son's 7.3L diesel several times easily with no sign of strain.. That's even without pressing the override button. Never even gave it a thought about needing to press the override button. Hook it up, press the power button, wait for the white light to turn on, you have 60 seconds to turn the key, turn the key to start and Bam. No hesitation. Starts right up.
There's a lot of negative comments and some of them are right about reading the manual But one thing that was completely missed is that truck is a 7.3 diesel and the GB70 is meant for starting 8 litre Gas trucks and 6.0 litre Diesels, Not 7.3 L diesels that's where you need the GB150 which goes up to 10 Litre Gas or Diesels. based on these facts I did not expect any of them to start that 7.3.
You don't know how to use the device. The Noco GB 70 have a override button (red) exactly below the HD word on the front. It's send pure 12V corrient that starts that 7.3 powerstroke engine without battery 5 times. I did several times in same engine. Read user manual before do a wrong review of a product. The Noco GB 70 is the father of that's 2 others, but you need to know how to use it.
Before using the Manual Override feature, make sure the HD battery clamps are connected to the correct polarity battery terminals. To use the Manual Override feature, press and hold the Manual Override Button (a red exclamation point icon inside a red circle) for three (3) seconds. The White Boost LED will flash “On” and “Off” indicating you have successfully entered into Manual Override and it is ready to jump start your vehicle. If connected in reverse polarity, the Red Error LED will illuminate and the unit will not operate. I say give the Noco another chance it just might have a little extra to it.
I did used the boost button on my new max starts video, but I should try boost button again with 7.3 maybe gives little more boost?? I’ll try off cam first
@@triplextreme2 yep but that's what happens when you have good product that last and work better than anyone the jnc randy from auto auction rebuilds would start this easy he did a video on it his is a 12/24 volt jumper pack so it's worth the money
The Noco GB70 has an override button which has been mentioned in other comments. Once you press the override the Noco will boost power and have more amperage to the truck. I have jumped several big block diesel trucks with the GB 70.
The Harbor Freight Viking 3400 amp jump pack saved my butt when my 7.3l powerstroke RV was dead due to a parasitic draw issue during winter. I walked to Harbor Freight, bought it, walked back, jumped it first try, and drove my RV home. Amazing product. 10/10. A bit heavy, but it doubles as a weapon I guess.
I have bought the Noco 50 and although there are some bad reviews out there I must say it works like a charm. I have a 6.2l v8 and jumó started 4 times without any problem and I still shows 100% battery charge.
Reading through the comments there are a lot of haters. This guy posted a video full of information at a cost of ZERO dollars to you, and you're going to complain because he didn't edit the video concisely enough for you?? Tough crowd. Thanks for making the video and giving us a real world head-to-head comparison of these jump boxes.
Thanks man, no worries it doesn’t bother me, I tried it with boost button on and off after I found how it turns on, but it doesn’t give it more “boost” it simply turns on the jumper if there is 0 volts, otherwise if it doesn’t sense any volts it won’t send juice to the clamps
Yup. Though I'm going to hit the comments before backing out once I see it's 19 minutes to test a jumper on three vehicles. Last video I hit of his (by mistake) I had to skip like 5 minutes trying to tell me on a stupid ass hoodie. pass
@@BBBYpsi reverse order? Really? That is only for safety. The jumper packs still source the same current as before at the same voltage 13.8Volts (more like 12 or less volts) then you have mechanics that barely know how to work on a vehicle and know little or nothing about electronics. I am not necessarily talking about this guy.
@@bobkernahan6340 the people that had the battery blow up.... was it a dead battery? Or one that had been charged recently. Normally a lead acid battery does not out gas/or release hydrogen gas unless it is charging.
Yes you need to hold in the override button 3 sec on the Noco. I bought a Noco GBX75 with 2500 max boosting amp for my 1,6 L 4 cyl petrol Toyota Corolla😂 We have below -30 degree C (- 22 F) and the Corolla cold starts easily in -19 degree C (-2.2 F) without using the block heater, but it’s good to have a backup if battery gets drained.
The ability to start an engine depends on the CCA rating. Your truck batteries are each rated at about 730 CCA. There is no correlation between peak amperage and CCA. Lithium batteries cannot be rated by CCA as they will not survive the GCI test - they will fry.
I have Audi A8 D3 with a 4.2 TDI engine, 326 HP. Recently my battery died, but due to the fact that I suspected problems with the electrics, instead of replacing the battery, I decided to buy NOCO 70. The car started without any problems, with 3V on the battery and the ambient temperature around +1/-1 C. Sorry for my English but I recommend the device .
The 7.3 "wait to start" light is the major cause of cold start failure on these models. The light goes out at around 8 or 10 seconds, if you listen closely you can hear the glow plug relay continues to run for another 15 seconds and clicks off. It sounds like an electric fuel pump running. Best fix? Turn on ignition, wait 30 seconds, start. Square biz.
You must not know how to read the noco says in the Manuel if no power at all the hit the over ride button which is the yellow and the lights will flash the crank the vehicle. Don't review products if your not going to use them properly.
Im surprised here. I have a Jumtop which claims to have 2500peak and 1200 at crank. I see no reviews on it tho. I also got the Audew , mainly bcuz every review ive seen for Audew shows it kicking everything else arse. I also have the GB40, which is magic, for a few seconds. What's interesting is i have several shops who have the GB70 and compared to its size and build quality, it really doesnt FEEL as powerful. You could hold down the red button for a while and that will it force it to power on HOWEVER im not sure if that wouldve done much difference here. From all the ones ive used, the Noco isnt limiting how much power its using, its just smart enough to know a battery isnt connected, so it doesnt turn on the power. In the video, he was able to trick it to turn on, so that SHOULDVE been it. And when he took off the battery the lights on the GB70 were still scrolling, so it was still powering. And since the truck was able to even ATTEMPT to crank , with no batteries means it was the GB70 using its power. I dont know if this is another impressive feat for the Audew or a negative for the GB70. Also , most of the Audews that look like that one are actually 2000 amp peak with only 500 amp start. I begin to learn where these folks manipulate the wording. According to Noco, the GB40 delivers a whopping 1000amps "within seconds" of powering on. This wording SHOULD place it above everything here except the GB40. However, in most reviews the gb40 cant cut it, so i doubt its using 1000 amps. sorry for the rant, good video
@@FixItNick if boost button turns it on I never saw you press the boost button, everyone else on youtube pressers the boost button if it it's a completely dead battery or no battery (so everyone is wrong or your right, bro you shilling for the other company (Audew) , you've been caught out)
Keep in mind that if you keep both batteries hooked up you'd probably have different results because they would still have SOME charge to help to booster box.
Best bet for a sure jump start on your 7.3 diesel purchaces the jump carry 950 jump starter it will crank especially cold weather. My opinion that's the best jumper for diesels
The jump starter I use when my 7.3 needs a jump is a 4KW portable generator with a 200 amp 12Vdc power supply. The engine shuts off when the voltage is low on the batteries because the alternator output has a lot of ripple which increases with load. The battery acts as a filter and a rippled voltage confuses the computer, causing the engine to shut down. I have had this happen with the Powerstokes, but it cannot happen with the IDI engines. They can run with almost no battery as long as the fuel solenoid stays energized.
I find in dual battery setups you need to hook up to the positive on one battery and negative on the other and jump it using them both simultaneously. Works a lot better for me
Just some info for you to think about 2100 peak amps only provides 440 cranking amps you have to take in consideration cranking amps are different then peak amps
I just bought that AUDEW jumper for my mazda 6 ! Ithink it will have enough power for me ! Plus I really like the storage case it comes with, and it"s a bargain for 89.00 dollars !! Thanks for this video .
I have a novo, of the battery is totally dead and you want to do a regular boost/jump start you have to long press the boost button, just be careful or cancels the safety features..
Computer ECU protection is why it shut off. Many alternators are computer controlled so if you disconnect it from your battery it will shut down to prevent damage to the ECU.
Not true. He loses excitation voltage to the alternator and it lost the excitation field, therefore no voltage generation. In turn the injectors require 10.8 volts to fire so they shut down and it kills the engine.
I am pretty sure that because the truck runs on DC power removing the battery breaks the circuit. If you had a low or dead battery it could still run off the power the alternator is producing, because the circuit is still complete. Someone correct me if I am wrong. I just bought a NOCO GB150, 4k amps. hope it does better then the GB70...
Yea that makes sense on the broken circuit part, so even if the battery is like 2V it should still have a connected circuit and the alternator should continue providing enough power for needed components
I have a GB70 and it has started a 7.3 powerstroke and 6.6 duramax before without a problem. I did however have a problem starting a 6.6 duramax (been sitting dead for a month) in 35° weather. It did crank the hell out of it, but the duramax wouldn't start.
@FixltNick -- The Audew 1500a is rated up to 6.0 L for deisel. The new Audew 2000a is rated up to 8.5 L for deisel. Can you try again with the latest Audew?
Hi great vid as always👍. The reason it stalls when the battery is disconnected basically the pcm regulates the voltage from the alternator and the alternator only keeps the batteries charged but can't keep up without a battery because of the idm takes 14v and converts it to 240v to fire the injector cylinoids and if the glow plugs are on and working the battery voltage at idle should be 11.9 to 13.1 depending on if it is a single or dual alternator setup and the glow plugs stay on up to 2 mins even after the wait to start light goes out
@@FixItNick yes it should because there isn't a sudden voltage drop like when you pull the terminals off of the battery and now that I think about it ford may have put a failsafe in so if a sudden voltage drop is detected it will shut down because if the idm is run on to low of a voltage it will burn up the electronic board
You need to get a better connection on the NOCO. If you press the manual override button it will force power out, if no lights come in cab you need to check the connection.
You need to hold the power button on the noco till the lights start flashing if you are connecting it without the batterys I would have started the truck if you had done that you must not have read the instructions. I have one and it will start a 7.3
The NOCO shows the red lights because it can tell it was not connected to a battery. You can override this, it talks about it in the manual I believe. I saw someone mention it in another video.
@@FixItNick for the Noco you just needed to press and hold a red exclamation button for a few seconds to put into boost mode. I have boosted large-displacement diesels with the Noco gb70 without any problem even when the engine is cold
I'd avoid the Lead acid jumper. Lead acid batteries don't like being sat around doing nothing for long periods, the batteries sulphate and die. If you're a recovery driver, they're great. If not, get the Lithium cell type.
The reason that the noco didn’t start the truck is because it doesn’t go above exactly 12 volts. It does actually have more amperage as advertised and 2000 amps is plenty to start the 7.3 but unlike the other two you tested, the noco doesn’t go above 12 volts. The other two probably have more voltage. If you had only 400 amps going to the engine, it would be plenty enough amperage as long as you had like 18 or more volts. My point is that the noco has the amperage it advertises but it doesn’t give out as much voltage so it is a good product. Also I have seen this same noco start that same truck in other videos. Other than that it was a good video.
Jeep’n With Friends your comment is very interesting. So are you saying that the cheaper Chinese jumpers can put out more than 12 volts? Because if that’s true it could be bad for the vehicles ECM it’s entire electrical system. Maybe the NOCO is designed to never go past 12volts?
Alternator is not producing enough juice(amp) to keep powering the car. Or you have disconnected the battery too quick. Make sure let it run for a bit longer like a minute or so(depends on the car manufacturers). I hope it explains the alternator problem
The fuel shut down solenoid activates when there is no power supplied to the vehicle by battery. That's why the engine died with the 73 diesel engines, as well as with other diesels you must have power from the battery to keep the fuel shut down solenoid valve open.
“Actual Amps” is always about half of what the “Peak Amp” rating is.. Peak Amps is just marketing.. For the record - the compression in a 7.3 powerstroke is like 17.5 to 1.. hence the dual battery setup to begin with. They also need to hit a min rpm I believe and oil pressure on the high pressure oil system for the injectors to even be “allowed” to start.
my only experience of a 2 battery diesel pick up: it was a 24 volt starter. yes it worked a half dozen times with one battery, but the starter was stressed so much it crapped out after a few times. we got stuck in nowhere-ville and needed a new starter. all's well that ends well, but who needs the ag. really?
That noco has the power to turn on that engine in 50 percent , the problem is that u don't know how to use it , you are supposed to hit the red button to do a non battery or dead battery operation so u can get the full boost , great video nobody is perfect.
The Noco is amazing. This is a case of the user not knowing how it works. The NOCO all have boost mode and this TH-camr didn't read the manual on how to engage it before he made the video. A bad decision on his part. I can tell you that I have boosted large displacement diesels, when the engine block is cold (in Canada). No problem. Look at the dozens of other NOCO TH-cam videos. They are real.
Josh Johnson nope, boost button does give more power it just activates the jumper if there is no battery power at all. In fact I tried it with boost button later and it did same amount of turns
I am not a mechanic but I would think that disconnecting both batteries from that truck would somewhat mess up the computer so that it would have to relearn how to idle, and thus make it harder to start. Why not leave a small 12V battery connected thru the "cigarette lighter" port to keep the computer energized?
The big semi truck engines are around 15 litter. So if the 2000amp noco can not tlstart a 7.3 ford diesel, it's fair to asume that the biggest noco which is 4000amp will not start a big rig 18 wheeler engine
That was nice with 2 packs. Do you have corrosion issues with your fuse box? I have the 1999 as well as my dad and bad corrosion on each of our vehicles.
that audew would have been enough to start that engine, even a dead batter will have 12 volts , but you have to have a constant 12 volts at all times your also supplying not only power to the ecm but the coil and all the other electricals
definitely not what I expected. Nice video. I wonder how they would all do with really weak batteries or dead batteries. Perhaps you'd be able to give them a couple cycles of the boost to get a charge in and then be able to start it with one jump box.
Maybe along with that test you could take a disconnected drained battery and measure its voltage before and after giving it a shot with the jumper. See how much juice it can put back into the batteries.
Engine shuts off because the alternator needs a 12v supply to the armature to continue to supply voltage. You disconnect voltage supply and the armature magnetic flux is now gone and no more field excitation....therefore all voltage is lost. The injectors require 10.8 volts to fire so engine dies.
aliexpress has a 2500A one, from the brand UTRAI, that can start up to an 8.0l diesel for about 65/70$ I believe. I've actually seen the smaller brother of that one (2000A model) jump start a caterpillar/excavator, but the review was in polish so idk about the displacement... but I actually believe them, considering those that I've seen or used myself 👍
The NOCO jumpers are a scam. Project Farm just did a comparison of like 8 different jump starters, the NOCO wasn’t able to start and had the worst amps out of any he tested.
Haha I tried to find boost button in manual but missed it, after the video I did find boost button instructions and tried jumping the truck again and boost button had no improvement. The reason for the boost button is to provide power to the truck when there is 0 volts present.
FixItNick the truth is that none of the lithium jumpers can actually deliver 1000 amps because the cables are not thick enough. The most they can deliver is about 350 amps in the real world.
Hi FixitNick, you are correct the jumper units electronics require some voltage from the battery to determine the polarity of the connection to the battery. The boost function ignores battery polarity .
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I think you need to push the boost override button on the NOCO to jump with no batteries attached.
I tried pressing the red button couldn’t get it to do anything, however after reading up some more I found where it says I need to press it for 3 seconds to override it :) thx for the heads up
@Krypto Analyst whats better than the noco gb150
@Krypto Analyst ill have to buy one and try it out. Gb150 hasn't let me down yet though
@Krypto Analyst Inclined to agree. I have a Noco 3.5 amp battery charger (G3500) and it's not that great to be honest, always getting fals positive readings on it. The dirt cheap charger I bought in 1988 is much better and more robust. Only bought the Noco because my motorbike had a lithium battery.
Won't be buying Noco again.
I think you need to f****** get on with this
Try reading the instructions
it would of worked however he didn't bother to read before doing a realm review of products. garbage review
No experience of the other two but the Audew usually needs to be disconnected then reconnected about 2 or 3 times before it will start the big engine. It's just the way the circuitry works.
I have an Audew but I opened the boost box and hooked the relay looking connection direct so it doesn't break the connection while cranking and now I can power any 3500 diesel truck with it.
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your so FUCKING stupid, You don't knows how to used the Noco
Why people don't read the manual?
First and for most, this booster can start up to 6 liter diesel engine. It says on the box, therefor asking it to do a job it's not qualifying to do is not fair.
Secondly, when the battery is dead the device can't sense the dead battery therefore you have to press the override button.
I have the GB 70 and it doing very good where others fail.
I have the NOCO GBX75 and according to the specs it is able to start diesel vehicles up to a 6.5L. It has started my son's 7.3L diesel several times easily with no sign of strain.. That's even without pressing the override button. Never even gave it a thought about needing to press the override button. Hook it up, press the power button, wait for the white light to turn on, you have 60 seconds to turn the key, turn the key to start and Bam. No hesitation. Starts right up.
There's a lot of negative comments and some of them are right about reading the manual But one thing that was completely missed is that truck is a 7.3 diesel and the GB70 is meant for starting 8 litre Gas trucks and 6.0 litre Diesels, Not 7.3 L diesels that's where you need the GB150 which goes up to 10 Litre Gas or Diesels. based on these facts I did not expect any of them to start that 7.3.
Looking for that comment finally!
The GB70 has started my 7.3L Superduty many times. When it detects a battery all the 4 lights flash and will go into jump.
You got to press the over-ride button on the noco
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You don't know how to use the device. The Noco GB 70 have a override button (red) exactly below the HD word on the front. It's send pure 12V corrient that starts that 7.3 powerstroke engine without battery 5 times. I did several times in same engine. Read user manual before do a wrong review of a product. The Noco GB 70 is the father of that's 2 others, but you need to know how to use it.
Before using the Manual Override feature, make sure the
HD battery clamps are connected to the correct polarity
battery terminals. To use the Manual Override feature, press
and hold the Manual Override Button (a red exclamation
point icon inside a red circle) for three (3) seconds. The
White Boost LED will flash “On” and “Off” indicating you
have successfully entered into Manual Override and it is
ready to jump start your vehicle. If connected in reverse
polarity, the Red Error LED will illuminate and the unit will
not operate.
I say give the Noco another chance it just might have a little extra to it.
I did used the boost button on my new max starts video, but I should try boost button again with 7.3 maybe gives little more boost?? I’ll try off cam first
@@FixItNick Hopefully it will do some thing a little better for you. jump n carry has some good ones but they are pricey as all get out.
@@triplextreme2 yep but that's what happens when you have good product that last and work better than anyone the jnc randy from auto auction rebuilds would start this easy he did a video on it his is a 12/24 volt jumper pack so it's worth the money
The Noco GB70 has an override button which has been mentioned in other comments. Once you press the override the Noco will boost power and have more amperage to the truck. I have jumped several big block diesel trucks with the GB 70.
The Harbor Freight Viking 3400 amp jump pack saved my butt when my 7.3l powerstroke RV was dead due to a parasitic draw issue during winter.
I walked to Harbor Freight, bought it, walked back, jumped it first try, and drove my RV home.
Amazing product. 10/10.
A bit heavy, but it doubles as a weapon I guess.
I have bought the Noco 50 and although there are some bad reviews out there I must say it works like a charm. I have a 6.2l v8 and jumó started 4 times without any problem and I still shows 100% battery charge.
Gas engines are easy to start, I started my 5.3 like 30 times on one charge
how many batteries have you got in your veiecle?
Reading through the comments there are a lot of haters. This guy posted a video full of information at a cost of ZERO dollars to you, and you're going to complain because he didn't edit the video concisely enough for you?? Tough crowd. Thanks for making the video and giving us a real world head-to-head comparison of these jump boxes.
Thanks man, no worries it doesn’t bother me, I tried it with boost button on and off after I found how it turns on, but it doesn’t give it more “boost” it simply turns on the jumper if there is 0 volts, otherwise if it doesn’t sense any volts it won’t send juice to the clamps
Yup. Though I'm going to hit the comments before backing out once I see it's 19 minutes to test a jumper on three vehicles. Last video I hit of his (by mistake) I had to skip like 5 minutes trying to tell me on a stupid ass hoodie. pass
@@farlesbarkley1022 1 vehicle 3 jumpers but I feel you.
It's because he didn't read the manual and thus didn't test it properly...
Full of mis-information
Why can't all these so called expert reviews even hook a battery in the proper order, and yet we are supposed to trust them
First thing I noticed how he hook the battery up in reverse order
Unless the battery is gassing then a spark is a major problem and I have known a couple people who had a battery blow up in there face from a spark
@@BBBYpsi reverse order? Really? That is only for safety. The jumper packs still source the same current as before at the same voltage 13.8Volts (more like 12 or less volts) then you have mechanics that barely know how to work on a vehicle and know little or nothing about electronics. I am not necessarily talking about this guy.
@@bobkernahan6340 the people that had the battery blow up.... was it a dead battery? Or one that had been charged recently. Normally a lead acid battery does not out gas/or release hydrogen gas unless it is charging.
Yes you need to hold in the override button 3 sec on the Noco. I bought a Noco GBX75 with 2500 max boosting amp for my 1,6 L 4 cyl petrol Toyota Corolla😂 We have below -30 degree C (- 22 F) and the Corolla cold starts easily in -19 degree C (-2.2 F) without using the block heater, but it’s good to have a backup if battery gets drained.
On the GB70, the boost button is the red exclamation point near the bottom. Press & hold for about 3 seconds.
The ability to start an engine depends on the CCA rating. Your truck batteries are each rated at about 730 CCA. There is no correlation between peak amperage and CCA. Lithium batteries cannot be rated by CCA as they will not survive the GCI test - they will fry.
I love the sound of that 7.3. Great video! Thanks!
Wait till I get exhaust soon!! 4” or 5” not sure
@@FixItNick I have a 7.3 with a 4" exhaust. It sounds so good
T Wayland I’m getting one from 1023 Diesel soon :))
I don’t think that the noco was used correctly, I have one and it works great.u have to use override function.
I did it again off the camera and still got like 2 cranks with boost button on, it cant crank the 7.3 as good as the AUDEW smaller jumper did
your right one
You need the gb150 for that..
Please read first the Noco user guide!!! Press 3 seconds the manual override button and boost is ON.
Yea boost doesn’t do anything it doesn’t give it more power, only turns on jumper if there is 0 volts
I have Audi A8 D3 with a 4.2 TDI engine, 326 HP. Recently my battery died, but due to the fact that I suspected problems with the electrics, instead of replacing the battery, I decided to buy NOCO 70. The car started without any problems, with 3V on the battery and the ambient temperature around +1/-1 C. Sorry for my English but I recommend the device .
The 7.3 "wait to start" light is the major cause of cold start failure on these models.
The light goes out at around 8 or 10 seconds, if you listen closely you can hear the glow plug relay continues to run for another 15 seconds and clicks off. It sounds like an electric fuel pump running. Best fix? Turn on ignition, wait 30 seconds, start.
Square biz.
You must not know how to read the noco says in the Manuel if no power at all the hit the over ride button which is the yellow and the lights will flash the crank the vehicle. Don't review products if your not going to use them properly.
Blah blah blah lol, yes I didnt know that part, but it didn’t matter cuz it couldn’t jump it anyways lol
Blah blah blah, learn how to use it first
@@FixItNick Silly man. Will you ever learn?
READ THE FUCKING MANUAL! MUST HOLD BUTTON FOR 3 SECONDS.
@@FixItNick yes I agree learn how to use them properly
Im surprised here. I have a Jumtop which claims to have 2500peak and 1200 at crank. I see no reviews on it tho. I also got the Audew , mainly bcuz every review ive seen for Audew shows it kicking everything else arse. I also have the GB40, which is magic, for a few seconds. What's interesting is i have several shops who have the GB70 and compared to its size and build quality, it really doesnt FEEL as powerful. You could hold down the red button for a while and that will it force it to power on HOWEVER im not sure if that wouldve done much difference here. From all the ones ive used, the Noco isnt limiting how much power its using, its just smart enough to know a battery isnt connected, so it doesnt turn on the power. In the video, he was able to trick it to turn on, so that SHOULDVE been it. And when he took off the battery the lights on the GB70 were still scrolling, so it was still powering. And since the truck was able to even ATTEMPT to crank , with no batteries means it was the GB70 using its power. I dont know if this is another impressive feat for the Audew or a negative for the GB70. Also , most of the Audews that look like that one are actually 2000 amp peak with only 500 amp start. I begin to learn where these folks manipulate the wording. According to Noco, the GB40 delivers a whopping 1000amps "within seconds" of powering on. This wording SHOULD place it above everything here except the GB40. However, in most reviews the gb40 cant cut it, so i doubt its using 1000 amps. sorry for the rant, good video
YOU DIDN'T PRESS THE BOOST BUTTON ON THE NOCO (I'm glad I never watched your video before and I ended up purchasing the noco model)
Boost button doesn’t give more power, it just turns it on if there is no battery power at all. Noco is pretty weak to other units I used
@@FixItNick if boost button turns it on I never saw you press the boost button, everyone else on youtube pressers the boost button if it it's a completely dead battery or no battery (so everyone is wrong or your right, bro you shilling for the other company (Audew) , you've been caught out)
@@theunknown1426 Not to mention the video sucked and wasted my time. I hate people that make videos when they don't know wtf they're talking about.
@@michaelcrossley4716 a
I totally AGREE
Keep in mind that if you keep both batteries hooked up you'd probably have different results because they would still have SOME charge to help to booster box.
Best bet for a sure jump start on your 7.3 diesel purchaces the jump carry 950 jump starter it will crank especially cold weather. My opinion that's the best jumper for diesels
The jump starter I use when my 7.3 needs a jump is a 4KW portable generator with a 200 amp 12Vdc power supply. The engine shuts off when the voltage is low on the batteries because the alternator output has a lot of ripple which increases with load. The battery acts as a filter and a rippled voltage confuses the computer, causing the engine to shut down. I have had this happen with the Powerstokes, but it cannot happen with the IDI engines. They can run with almost no battery as long as the fuel solenoid stays energized.
I find in dual battery setups you need to hook up to the positive on one battery and negative on the other and jump it using them both simultaneously. Works a lot better for me
Just some info for you to think about 2100 peak amps only provides 440 cranking amps you have to take in consideration cranking amps are different then peak amps
I just bought that AUDEW jumper for my mazda 6 ! Ithink it will have enough power for me ! Plus I really like the storage case it comes with, and it"s a bargain for 89.00 dollars !! Thanks for this video .
My Audew can spin a 5.3 Silverado like 30 times and spins 6.2 f250 easy
I have a novo, of the battery is totally dead and you want to do a regular boost/jump start you have to long press the boost button, just be careful or cancels the safety features..
Thank you, the following day I tried it with boost button and results were the same
Computer ECU protection is why it shut off. Many alternators are computer controlled so if you disconnect it from your battery it will shut down to prevent damage to the ECU.
Not true. He loses excitation voltage to the alternator and it lost the excitation field, therefore no voltage generation. In turn the injectors require 10.8 volts to fire so they shut down and it kills the engine.
I am pretty sure that because the truck runs on DC power removing the battery breaks the circuit. If you had a low or dead battery it could still run off the power the alternator is producing, because the circuit is still complete. Someone correct me if I am wrong. I just bought a NOCO GB150, 4k amps. hope it does better then the GB70...
Yea that makes sense on the broken circuit part, so even if the battery is like 2V it should still have a connected circuit and the alternator should continue providing enough power for needed components
most probably has electronic fuel injection.
Did you ever get to try your GB 150?
I have a GB70 and it has started a 7.3 powerstroke and 6.6 duramax before without a problem. I did however have a problem starting a 6.6 duramax (been sitting dead for a month) in 35° weather. It did crank the hell out of it, but the duramax wouldn't start.
Ok BUT those trucks had dead batteries or what?
@FixltNick -- The Audew 1500a is rated up to 6.0 L for deisel. The new Audew 2000a is rated up to 8.5 L for deisel. Can you try again with the latest Audew?
Yea I think I might, I have 5 of them wonder if they are all 1500 I’ll have to check
Maybe the NOCO would of started/cranked the truck if the boost button was pressed.
Gb70 is rated for 6.0diesel and need to activate boost button. It's, a very good booster . It works if you do what it's meant to do
Hi great vid as always👍. The reason it stalls when the battery is disconnected basically the pcm regulates the voltage from the alternator and the alternator only keeps the batteries charged but can't keep up without a battery because of the idm takes 14v and converts it to 240v to fire the injector cylinoids and if the glow plugs are on and working the battery voltage at idle should be 11.9 to 13.1 depending on if it is a single or dual alternator setup and the glow plugs stay on up to 2 mins even after the wait to start light goes out
But what if the battery was like 90% dead and got jumped it would still run you think?
@@FixItNick yes it should because there isn't a sudden voltage drop like when you pull the terminals off of the battery and now that I think about it ford may have put a failsafe in so if a sudden voltage drop is detected it will shut down because if the idm is run on to low of a voltage it will burn up the electronic board
Try letting the glow plug light go out before trying to crank with the one Audew
The glow plug light is only a timer. The glow plugs only turn on if the temperature is less than 35 degrees F or so. It might be 32 degrees. Good day.
You need to get a better connection on the NOCO. If you press the manual override button it will force power out, if no lights come in cab you need to check the connection.
Nice. Probably gonna pick me up a couple. Thanks for video.
You are welcome, I bet one might be able to spin the 6.7!!
FixItNick I bet it could. It just needs 1 turn and boom it’ll be running.
Halffast719 if you get one I expect a vid :))
FixItNick will do.
So...long story short-Audew is cheaper and better than Noco? Correct?
Yes that’s correct, I bought 2 more, I have 4 now, might have to take 2 apart for testing lol
@@FixItNick Thank you, Nick!) Why pay more-ill save few dollars))
You need to hold the power button on the noco till the lights start flashing if you are connecting it without the batterys I would have started the truck if you had done that you must not have read the instructions.
I have one and it will start a 7.3
Nope doesn’t do it, boost button just turns on Noco I’d power to weak to activate it, it doesn’t give more boost power
The NOCO shows the red lights because it can tell it was not connected to a battery. You can override this, it talks about it in the manual I believe. I saw someone mention it in another video.
I looked through manual could not find anything to bypass :((
@@FixItNick for the Noco you just needed to press and hold a red exclamation button for a few seconds to put into boost mode. I have boosted large-displacement diesels with the Noco gb70 without any problem even when the engine is cold
Paul M thx did that on Silverado max starts video, few people told me lol
You need the NOCO GB-150 to properly start this diesel truck. The NOCO GB-70 is not large enough to start a diesel truck with the size of this engine!
I'd avoid the Lead acid jumper. Lead acid batteries don't like being sat around doing nothing for long periods, the batteries sulphate and die. If you're a recovery driver, they're great. If not, get the Lithium cell type.
7.3 take 2 min sometimes to start charging. depend on condition.
Hey do you know where I can find more information on that?
You need to press the big RED “!” Button to boost with the Noco GB70
Yup but boost does really provide more power it simply activates power to the clamps if there is no power from battery
The reason that the noco didn’t start the truck is because it doesn’t go above exactly 12 volts. It does actually have more amperage as advertised and 2000 amps is plenty to start the 7.3 but unlike the other two you tested, the noco doesn’t go above 12 volts. The other two probably have more voltage. If you had only 400 amps going to the engine, it would be plenty enough amperage as long as you had like 18 or more volts. My point is that the noco has the amperage it advertises but it doesn’t give out as much voltage so it is a good product. Also I have seen this same noco start that same truck in other videos. Other than that it was a good video.
Jeep’n With Friends your comment is very interesting. So are you saying that the cheaper Chinese jumpers can put out more than 12 volts? Because if that’s true it could be bad for the vehicles ECM it’s entire electrical system. Maybe the NOCO is designed to never go past 12volts?
12:05 YESSSSSSSSS I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO TRY THIS
Alternator is not producing enough juice(amp) to keep powering the car. Or you have disconnected the battery too quick. Make sure let it run for a bit longer like a minute or so(depends on the car manufacturers). I hope it explains the alternator problem
The fuel shut down solenoid activates when there is no power supplied to the vehicle by battery. That's why the engine died with the 73 diesel engines, as well as with other diesels you must have power from the battery to keep the fuel shut down solenoid valve open.
Yea makes sense
“Actual Amps” is always about half of what the “Peak Amp” rating is.. Peak Amps is just marketing..
For the record - the compression in a 7.3 powerstroke is like 17.5 to 1.. hence the dual battery setup to begin with. They also need to hit a min rpm I believe and oil pressure on the high pressure oil system for the injectors to even be “allowed” to start.
my only experience of a 2 battery diesel pick up: it was a 24 volt starter. yes it worked a half dozen times with one battery, but the starter was stressed so much it crapped out after a few times. we got stuck in nowhere-ville and needed a new starter. all's well that ends well, but who needs the ag. really?
That noco has the power to turn on that engine in 50 percent , the problem is that u don't know how to use it , you are supposed to hit the red button to do a non battery or dead battery operation so u can get the full boost , great video nobody is perfect.
He did the boost off camera and it still did not work.
The Audew has been tested in other videos to be a very good booster pack, no surprise it did the best here
With the audew you gotta start it quick. After 5 seconds the boost amps go down so you gotta hit the button and run to the key lol
Great comperison, halpfull video. I almost purchased noco. Glad i didn't.
Thanks.
The Noco is amazing. This is a case of the user not knowing how it works. The NOCO all have boost mode and this TH-camr didn't read the manual on how to engage it before he made the video. A bad decision on his part. I can tell you that I have boosted large displacement diesels, when the engine block is cold (in Canada). No problem. Look at the dozens of other NOCO TH-cam videos. They are real.
Well it can’t start a 7.3 obviously, not being aware of the boost button sure, but AUDEW cranked 7.3 better than the Noco
It’s still a great jumper, but I’d rather have 2 AUDEW jumpers for the price of one Noco.
I agree, I have a noco and this one was used improperly. It would have started up no problem
Josh Johnson nope, boost button does give more power it just activates the jumper if there is no battery power at all. In fact I tried it with boost button later and it did same amount of turns
I am not a mechanic but I would think that disconnecting both batteries from that truck would somewhat mess up the computer so that it would have to relearn how to idle, and thus make it harder to start. Why not leave a small 12V battery connected thru the "cigarette lighter" port to keep the computer energized?
Nah that doesn’t happen
Are you sure or just guessing?
NICK I THINK YOU MUST HAVE BLEED BACK ON YOUR FUEL , CYCLE YOUR KEY TWICE GIVING EACH CYCLE ABOUT 90 SEC. FOR YOUR FUEL PUMP TO BUILD UP PRESSURE .
Hi, did anybody figure out why the motor cut off after the audew was disconnected? 16:00
Do it agen with boost button for the gb70 all the way
It won’t make any difference, boost only turns it on not actuAlly give it more power
The JNC Air doesn't have a battery in it. That's why it did nothing. For it to work, it has to actually be connected to the battery.
Be ok if they were rated for a 7.3 but if you look they are mostly rated for 3.5 or 5 lt diesel or 7 lt gas
The big semi truck engines are around 15 litter. So if the 2000amp noco can not tlstart a 7.3 ford diesel, it's fair to asume that the biggest noco which is 4000amp will not start a big rig 18 wheeler engine
Wow coolant is really low
Why didn't you just try a couple more cranks on the genius boost.. 😑🤷🏻♂️ it would have done it.
Would the oz 1000 amp super capacitor work since it can be repeatedly used from batteries own power if both batteries were connected?
Can you do another test with the noco and the boost funtion?
I have 2 audews, one for me and one for my daughter and they work great.
Yup I got 5 lol
That was nice with 2 packs. Do you have corrosion issues with your fuse box? I have the 1999 as well as my dad and bad corrosion on each of our vehicles.
You did the GB70 wrong you hook it up wrong
Not wrong
The GB70 isn’t designed to jump a 7.3L diesel. You need the GB 150 or higher. Also, it does have a boost feature. Read the instructions.
that audew would have been enough to start that engine, even a dead batter will have 12 volts , but you have to have a constant 12 volts at all times your also supplying not only power to the ecm but the coil and all the other electricals
Something I’ve never tried and was interesting to see. Thanks for the video!
I’m gonna Redo test with ew started in the 7.3
definitely not what I expected. Nice video. I wonder how they would all do with really weak batteries or dead batteries. Perhaps you'd be able to give them a couple cycles of the boost to get a charge in and then be able to start it with one jump box.
I’ll actually do another tat to see how many cranks each will get in full charge, should be interesting!
Maybe along with that test you could take a disconnected drained battery and measure its voltage before and after giving it a shot with the jumper. See how much juice it can put back into the batteries.
I have 3 audews. The audew would start that truck first try with a piss dead battery
@@LivingOnWheels I have 3 audews. The audew would start that truck first try even with a piss dead battery
@@hunterklemz0597 why are you pissing on your batteries? 🤷🏻♂️
Engine shuts off because the alternator needs a 12v supply to the armature to continue to supply voltage. You disconnect voltage supply and the armature magnetic flux is now gone and no more field excitation....therefore all voltage is lost. The injectors require 10.8 volts to fire so engine dies.
Why didn't you use the 2000 amp Audew??? You're not making a fair comparison.
push the boost override button on the NOCO to jump with no batteries
Какой мощности батареи посоветовать можешь ?
Which power batteries u can advice ?
Do u have different size power batteries ?
aliexpress has a 2500A one, from the brand UTRAI, that can start up to an 8.0l diesel for about 65/70$ I believe. I've actually seen the smaller brother of that one (2000A model) jump start a caterpillar/excavator, but the review was in polish so idk about the displacement... but I actually believe them, considering those that I've seen or used myself 👍
Did you take the battery cables off again and the alternator shut off? If it did then your alternator is bad that's the first sign
I'm impressed it did it with 2
Yea with 2 small ones it jumped it pretty well, 2 red ones provide 3,000 peak amps maybe even more?
@@FixItNick I would test to see what the actual peak amps there pushing at 3000 peak amps would be around 680 cranking amps
The Audew comes in 2000amp size and it is in my opinion that had you used that one the engine would have turned over!
2000 peak amp will crank well
Peak amp doesn't say anything... It never comes close to that. The actual cranking/starting amps is the important spec.
You didn’t use the novo right
Yes I did, boost button doesn’t give it more power, it simply activates the jumper if there is 0 volts
The shorter the leads you can get away with is best becouse of voltage drop over longer lengths
I just bought the newer model Audew 2000A on clearance at Walmart Online for $57.99 Free Shipping.
What oil weight do you run ?
The NOCO jumpers are a scam. Project Farm just did a comparison of like 8 different jump starters, the NOCO wasn’t able to start and had the worst amps out of any he tested.
If you would have had the NOVO GB150 that will jumpstart just about anything the price is $350 .
10.0L Gas and 10.0L Diesel engine
Read the noco instrucrions before using for proper use. It will jump it if used properly.
Your expectations are too high for these boosters on such a large engine
Nick очень неожиданный результат теста very interesting result off test !!!!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 more video !!!
Спасибо, Сегодня позже постараюсь поставить ещё одно видео с другим текстом
I had to jump a Cummins 6.7 at work and it took 2 jump packs!
You didn't press boost button on genius
could you do a Jumtop n12 vs Audew or GB70 vid?
You didnt use the boost button dude
Haha I tried to find boost button in manual but missed it, after the video I did find boost button instructions and tried jumping the truck again and boost button had no improvement. The reason for the boost button is to provide power to the truck when there is 0 volts present.
FixItNick the truth is that none of the lithium jumpers can actually deliver 1000 amps because the cables are not thick enough. The most they can deliver is about 350 amps in the real world.
Hi FixitNick, you are correct the jumper units electronics require some voltage from the battery to determine the polarity of the connection to the battery.
The boost function ignores battery polarity .
Over ride is for when the battery is under 2 volts