as a car tech (20+years of service) i love watching your videos like others watch a crime documentary. and sometimes i learn from watching too. thank you for the effort doing these videos. 👍
You didn't listen to the video. Owner most likely did NOT use proper rated oil. ANY DI engine may fail if you use the wrong oil. Almost ALL new cars have gone to DI.
I got a cordless impact earlier this year, it surprised me how powerful it was. It will either break the bolt loose or it will break the bolt. Or the socket. And it's way more portable than an air hose!
With any luck it will last. I'd rather have a big, simple, clunky, NA gas guzzler than a complex turbo I4 though. Seems easier for these manufacturers to do right.
@@MrPabsUkI use Pennzoil Full Synthetic and the OEM Mopar filter. I change the oil around every 8,000 miles. Let me also say, at like 3,000 miles my water pump blew and it was a recall like last year for this engine.
Today I opened up a Cat/Perkins 3054/1004 and I was surprised that it hadn't seized up. #5 lower main bearing was beat and it looked like a one-piece thrust bearing. That and the transfered bearing material tells me that it was close to catastrophe. I didn't do the science though. 3/4 pistons had broken top rings and the ring lands were hammered. It was very impressive to have still been running, although it was pushing a stream of oil out the rear main and by mostly covering the draft tube, it whistled. 😮 Oh, and enough dirt in the intake to grow taters.
Yeah, my guess on this is the car is supposed to be able to run on regular unleaded gas, and for whatever reason, some of the ECUs or sensors just don't handle it as well as others. Basically, turbo + low octane = boom.
Yup. Personally drive a Honda and it's supposed to be fine using 87 but I find it's noticeably quieter using 91 so that's what it gets. The manual can tell me 'til the ink falls off the page that 87 is fine but I'll believe my ears. Lucky for me I only drive 700 miles or so a month so don't even notice the extra cost at the pump.
And people still believe that warming up your engine isnt necessary. Its mostly to get the oil up top of the engine. Warming up an engine isnt bad for it.
Different places in this world have different oils specified, and wildly different oil and filter change intervals...all for the same engine. Plus, of course, wildly different "normal" use of the vehicle/engines. When your national speed limit is 60mph (100kmh) and other countries have unlimited , or 80mph , or anywhere from 70 to 100mph as "normal".... the wear characteristics of the same engine/different country really stand out.
Access to these engines seems to start with the instruction: "remove engine from car." The difficult thing about that step is how often major bodywork etc removal is required to remove the engine. It is like the old Jaguar E type, the first step for removing the engine was to remove the front suspension.
@@Aerzon1v1 We seem to see ever more examples of this - a design that is fabulously designed for a task, and manufacture. But barely a moment's thought given to servicing. I am not saying this just about cars. It applies to nearly all mechanical and electronic devices.
Mopar tech here… the water intake tube bolts back out and dump coolant. Had a recall for that. Had one came in that had blown the freeze plug out under the turbo. Got overnight to spray MOLTEN ALUMINUM out the hole. Head gasket failed and it would spit flame out the side sometimes when cranking.
Just sold my 2017 Jeep with this engine. One cool feature was that it was able to blow hot air in less than 30s after startup in the cold. That EGR cooler must be reason why
Or, that mentioned valve in the water pump that actually slows coolant circulation right down so whatever heat from start...stays in the engine...until it is allowed to flow to the cabin heater?
@@Felix.Garcia The 1975 Datsun 120Y (B210) I had also had a very quick heater... the 6 inch long 1/2 inch rubber hose off the rear of the head fed straight into the heater core and the return fabric covered rubber hose went all the way from the firewall to the front of the engine joining in with the return to the water pump intake from the radiator. The heater got priority! Another very fast acting cabin heater was in a Lada Niva...guaranteed 100F in the cabin at -36F outside. Siberians appreciated that!
Couldn't agree more. I have an 08 Wrangler with the 3.8. It's weak in horsepower but is a solid engine. 277,000 Kilometers on it and has really given me no issues. It's a simple easy to service engine that is naturally aspirated. Plus plenty of parts if and when I need them.
I've put almost 3/4M miles on my 3 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L's. They are practically bulletproof, however they don't get the mileage of the newer engines. They don't seem as refined, as powerful, or as quiet as the newer engines. I get 17mpg in town w/AC in my 4.0L. But I get 22-24mpg in town with my 3.2L Cherokees.
@budlanctot3060 Yeah it's the tighter tolerances of the newer engines and the lighter oils that make them more efficient. Combine that with direct injection, vv timing, and turboed engines, and lighter materials and then newer engines also need to meet stricter standards. I will still stick with my old engine because at the end of the day newer engines will never be as reliable or as easy to maintain. Plus parts are cheaper and are plentiful.
Lake Speed Jr suggests that higher power turbo engines must 1. have SP oil changed a 1/2 mfg recommend intervals. Use Valvoline renew and protect brand to remove deposits. 2. Use only Tier 1 premium high octane gas from quality source. 3. Use Techron Concentrate (pea, I think) every 3000 miles to keep the injectors clean. 4. Don't accelrate under heavy load from low speed when cold. These steps supposedly help prevent low speed predetonation between the rings where the high Ca of the wrong oil, mixes with gasoline that has leaked in and created a low RON number mixture that predetonates and blows the Putin to hell. See Lake Speed Jr. Videos.
Having the dream of rebuilding an engine some day, your channel provides me with unlimited motivation. Not only do I see how things are constructed/deconstructed, but I see the process for tearing an engine down in steps that keep the parts in good order. Something I feel I am now fully qualified to do - especially the "tossing across the room into a bin" part, although still in doubt about how it will ever run again. Baby steps I guess.
I grew up in Temperance, Mish-Gin, and a lot of my neighbors worked for Jeep in Toledo, a few miles away. Some of their kids wanted to follow their fathers into manufacturing jobs, but it was highly competitive and many were turned away. They all did other things such as GO TO COLLEGE, but there is total nepotism in the auto industry. And how well your dad is liked makes all the difference in the world in auto manufacturing circles to this day.
@@TotesCray there are thousands of these on the road and i am on the Jeep pages. I have not heard of issues like this on the 2.0. Not sure what happened to this one.
Different places in this world have different oils specified, and wildly different oil and filter change intervals...all for the same engine. Plus, of course, wildly different "normal" use of the vehicle/engines. When your national speed limit is 60mph (100kmh) and other countries have unlimited , or 80mph , or anywhere from 70 to 100mph as "normal".... the wear characteristics of the same engine/different country really stand out.
@ there was a tsb for the return line leaking. This one was so bad it was 3 qt low on oil. They brought it into the dealer for an oil change. Not one mention on how bad it was running. It survived though. Had a grand cherokee 4xe in for warranty. Engine was locked, block cracked, and pieces of piston on the belly pan. #4 plug was so destroyed, it was unable to be removed. Unfortunately couldn’t tear it apart, or send it on for a video, cause the dead one had a core charge
It’s find it kind of hard to believe that a cast aluminum valve cover with threaded holes wouldn't be less expensive to manufacture than a plastic one with 18-20 brass threaded inserts.
@@solderbuff Probably until the oil filter gets filled up by the oil pump and before full pressure oil reaches those roller lifters way up there in the head????
It still rattles even when there has been oil pressure for a good amount of time. My guess is the engine doesn't like being hot with cold oil put in it. Or the rockers really don't like to pump up or something
@@mattconway8900 I wonder if a scan tool will give you running oil pressure...or at least from cold through to hot...and hw that might compare to "spec"?
I had a 2019 jeep JL with this engine for about 10K miles. I live at 5000 feet elevation and it was very peppy to drive. Did fine in easy off road driving. I got rid of it before it broke. Now I drive a 2000 Jeep TJ with the 4.0L inline six, 5 spd. I enjoy it just as much and it cost 1/4 the money, will probably last 4x as long.
Rolling element bearings do not need pressure oil feeds . They run perfectly well with as little as an oil mist as shown by two stroke crankshaft bearings
@PaulG.x Took a Honda C250RS across France, (think XL250 in a road frame) missed checking the oil on *one* gas stop, at the next one the transmission felt stiff. Pulled the dip stick and went to wipe it. It's dry? "Why is the filler hole smoking??!! Filled it with best oil they had, seemed fine...Thank god for ball bearing motors.
From my own personal archives... The last time I saw set of rings come apart like that was when we disassembled a Detroit Diesel (Series 60 I believe). The waste gate was no longer controlling the boost. The diesel mechanic I was working with said he'd seen this before. It was a rare thing to see it happen. The owner was happy due to the engine still being under warranty. The driver was thrilled with the extra horsepower. Until it went bang and left him stranded. I assume all of these modern GDI turbocharged motors have some type of waste gate. Enlighten me if you happen to know for sure.
It does have a wastegate (visible when the turbo was on the bench). In this case, it's operated by an electric servo motor, controlled by the ECU. An overboost on an engine like this will trip a fault code and put it in limp-home mode.
This Hurricane 2.0L appears to be seriously over engineered, which adds more potential failure points. Unfortunately, the 3.0L Hurricane engine is probably over engineered as well. And I’ve said it before, but Eric DEFINITELY has a timing chain fetish!!!!
Hey eric ive watched everyone of your episodes for years and i love them and you have torn down almost every enthusiast engine but i haven't seen a 2.4t out of the srt4 or pt gt!
Update it has 70,000 miles on it one’s good so far still under warranty until 100,000 miles so hopefully it blows up before then also change your oil every 5000 miles
Eric, i didnt take time to read ALL the comments, but i definitely skimmed through a bunch. This NOT a Hurricane engine. The I6 twin turbo is the Hurricane.
I also take offense that they reused the hurricane name for that The hurricane will always be the jeep F134 The go devil will be the Flathead 134 and the super hurricane will always be the 6cyl flathead
There is a driving procedure for any turbo engine. Don't drive it hard when cold, drive it slow for the last few minutes before shutdown. And be careful with the fuel. Neat design motor there.
What is strange is the decision to use an open deck design with a turbo boosting over 20. I believe the cylinders either shifted, causing one of them to change it's roundness breaking rings. Make sure FCA/stellantis is made aware of the piston destruction. It may be a defect or the open deck design allowing the cylinders to change shape as I stated earlier
Really appreciate all the editing you do to capture the Crack of those head bolts - and mains too. And holy crap have they got the friction down to nothing now. Amazing.
The Pentastar V6 was designed with Mercedes back when they owned Chrysler, so it's not surprising that a modern FCA/Stelantis engine would not have any common parts.
I think if this was low speed detonation, there would have been a lot of melting on the piston crowns. We didn't see that. What we saw was the rings seized and broken which is why this engine was dead. I'd say that's likely incorrect oil, despite being changed as much as the manufacturer recommended. If you look, the "good" pistons oil rings were also not in good shape. Which is why I think what I think,.. wrong oil,.. either in viscosity, grade or both.
I drove a 2022 Grand Cherokee 4xe rental for 9 weeks. It had this engine in it. It was a hybrid. The Grand Cherokee is a fairly heavy SUV. I was surprised how good it moved under its own power. With no help from the electric assist. It had the normal 4 cylinder noise while accelerating. I would never buy it for my personal vehicle. I prefer the 3.6 V6 I have in my wrangler.
I have a Jeep Liberty with a 3.7. I have beat the snot out of it since 2016. Not sure how good they are to others, but I am sure someone will chime in.
Eric, you'll find that missing clip when you are pushing a pallet around the shop and the pallet jack comes to an instant, shuddering, halt.
yeah, while I'm in a rush and pushing it hard so it jacks the handle at a 90 and jams into my stomach LOL
@I_Do_Cars better hope it don't get ya in the groin! it happened to me and it was less then enjoyable!
@@I_Do_Cars or lower.... oh that gona to leave a mark
You got it, Using oil with too much calcium causes that. Starting to see it more and more in d. I vehicles.
I have went full face over the pallet jack doing this
Saturday night is complete
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You are correct
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Amen, I can now retreat from the umm...stuff I so unwisely but willingly I must add, put under my tongue some hours ago...
as a car tech (20+years of service) i love watching your videos like others watch a crime documentary. and sometimes i learn from watching too. thank you for the effort doing these videos. 👍
Today I learned that Stellantis is the Italian word for garbage.
Me too!!
theres a reason chrysler is going bankrupt
@@peterpeter5666Is it because of stellantis?
You didn't listen to the video. Owner most likely did NOT use proper rated oil. ANY DI engine may fail if you use the wrong oil. Almost ALL new cars have gone to DI.
@@budlanctot3060 stelantis is still junk. worst of the worst.
I got a cordless impact earlier this year, it surprised me how powerful it was. It will either break the bolt loose or it will break the bolt. Or the socket. And it's way more portable than an air hose!
I made the mistake of using my little Makita impact to install a TV wall mount. Twisted the head off a 1/4" lag bolt like it was a birthday candle!
Yeah they’ve come a long way. I have a 1/2 high torque and a little 3/8 and they are both beasts.
Eric merry Christmas to you and yours. First Xmas for Jr yeahh
I know you’d find this hard to believe but you sure make my end of the week great
I'm glad I can hopefully help take you away from the chaos of the week even if its just 45minutes.
I have this engine in my 2 door JL, my favorite feature is getting consistent milage in the 20's. I run 91 octane and have had no issues.
With any luck it will last. I'd rather have a big, simple, clunky, NA gas guzzler than a complex turbo I4 though. Seems easier for these manufacturers to do right.
What year, miles, what oil & how often?
I have it for my 21 JLU. I’m around 32,000 miles. Good amount of get-up-and-go
@@MrPabsUkI use Pennzoil Full Synthetic and the OEM Mopar filter. I change the oil around every 8,000 miles. Let me also say, at like 3,000 miles my water pump blew and it was a recall like last year for this engine.
@@JoeArn1 Thanks, interesting. Do you know what blew on the WP?
Saturday night tear down! Yes
That ball bearing at the front of the camshaft is a GREAT idea. As long as it is not sealed.
Porsche M96 IMS.....
Can you do a ufo/drone hyperdrive teardown next?
TR-3B would be great
Thanks for the Saturday night entertainment Eric. Always enjoy your teardown videos.
Just got home from HOGs Christmas party. Left early so I wouldn’t get into any trouble. Blessed with a video. Safe and sober.
Thanks Eric!!
The new M12 impacts have thirsty motors and they need the high output batteries to even put out the full beans
Yep....lets you go deep into the amps when you need them. Not just to extend the runtime.
Good job bud. Keep up the good work. 1993ish 7.3 idi from an f series truck would be awesome to see.
Today I opened up a Cat/Perkins 3054/1004 and I was surprised that it hadn't seized up. #5 lower main bearing was beat and it looked like a one-piece thrust bearing. That and the transfered bearing material tells me that it was close to catastrophe. I didn't do the science though. 3/4 pistons had broken top rings and the ring lands were hammered. It was very impressive to have still been running, although it was pushing a stream of oil out the rear main and by mostly covering the draft tube, it whistled. 😮
Oh, and enough dirt in the intake to grow taters.
The new Heep Cherokee is an affront to the original Jeep Cherokee
Yeah, my guess on this is the car is supposed to be able to run on regular unleaded gas, and for whatever reason, some of the ECUs or sensors just don't handle it as well as others. Basically, turbo + low octane = boom.
Yup. Personally drive a Honda and it's supposed to be fine using 87 but I find it's noticeably quieter using 91 so that's what it gets. The manual can tell me 'til the ink falls off the page that 87 is fine but I'll believe my ears. Lucky for me I only drive 700 miles or so a month so don't even notice the extra cost at the pump.
Nothing to do with fuel. LSPI is because of using the wrong oil.
Thanks for the teardown! Merry Christmas, Eric and family!
Here for the weekly chronicles of Blue
My night is complete. Thank you Eric may you and your family have a Happy and Merry Christmas.
It’s a Jeep thing people wouldn’t understand keep up the amazing content
I've had that Jeep Thing, I do understand. Thankfully, it's all cleared up now. 😆
@@EarlSinclair97
Antibiotics?
@@EarlSinclair97 15w-40?
Bought a Toy Taco.. no more repair bills
@@jjkoferl What year and engine?
2 videos a week? You're the best Eric. Happy Holidays to you and yours :3
Erik with 380k already 🔥 I started watching at 30k subs. Keep up the good sat night show! Happy holidays.
Wireless rings is a bold choice.
Speaking of Hurricane, I would love to see what the insides of one of the straight six engines look like.
It’s pretty much a longer version of this engine. They’re the same family and modular. 3, 4 and 6 cylinders otherwise all the same architecture.
New Impact!!!!
Thanks for another fun video, Eric!
Hard acceleration when cold on boosted DI engines can force unatomized fuel between the rings which then detonates and shatters the ring grooves.
And people still believe that warming up your engine isnt necessary. Its mostly to get the oil up top of the engine. Warming up an engine isnt bad for it.
We need a "look at that chain" compilation
And a "Top 10 Look At That Chain" personal favorite list.
Eric must have quite the collection of chains.
Different places in this world have different oils specified, and wildly different oil and filter change intervals...all for the same engine.
Plus, of course, wildly different "normal" use of the vehicle/engines.
When your national speed limit is 60mph (100kmh) and other countries have unlimited , or 80mph , or anywhere from 70 to 100mph as "normal"....
the wear characteristics of the same engine/different country really stand out.
Eric - as a fellow father a diaper only has one purpose. There are no such things as sound deadening diapers. Happy Holidays
Access to these engines seems to start with the instruction: "remove engine from car." The difficult thing about that step is how often major bodywork etc removal is required to remove the engine. It is like the old Jaguar E type, the first step for removing the engine was to remove the front suspension.
That made me shiver, what an idiot design.
I've always heard that to pull an e type motor, you must remove the transmission, and to remove the transmission, you must remove the motor...
@@Aerzon1v1 We seem to see ever more examples of this - a design that is fabulously designed for a task, and manufacture.
But barely a moment's thought given to servicing.
I am not saying this just about cars. It applies to nearly all mechanical and electronic devices.
Mopar tech here… the water intake tube bolts back out and dump coolant. Had a recall for that. Had one came in that had blown the freeze plug out under the turbo. Got overnight to spray MOLTEN ALUMINUM out the hole. Head gasket failed and it would spit flame out the side sometimes when cranking.
Appointment viewing. Thx for all your work.
All the best.
I’m half a case deep and this just popped up..what a great Saturday night!
hope ur sunday morning is just as good 👍
This is a great channel - informative and it makes me laugh too.
Just sold my 2017 Jeep with this engine. One cool feature was that it was able to blow hot air in less than 30s after startup in the cold. That EGR cooler must be reason why
Or, that mentioned valve in the water pump that actually slows coolant circulation right down so whatever heat from start...stays in the engine...until it is allowed to flow to the cabin heater?
@JohnSmith-pl2bk whatever it is. It's literally insanely fast!
@@Felix.Garcia
The 1975 Datsun 120Y (B210) I had also had a very quick heater...
the 6 inch long 1/2 inch rubber hose off the rear of the head fed straight into the heater core and the return fabric covered rubber hose went all the way from the firewall to the front of the engine joining in with the return to the water pump intake from the radiator.
The heater got priority!
Another very fast acting cabin heater was in a Lada Niva...guaranteed 100F in the cabin at -36F outside.
Siberians appreciated that!
Best heat I've ever experienced is on BMW's with the M54 engine close second is GM vehicles with the 3800 V6
Can't get enough of these videos. Definitely one of my favorite channels on TH-cam
The answer to "how do you solve this problem" is simple : Drive a late 90s, early 00s Jeep with a 4.0.
Couldn't agree more. I have an 08 Wrangler with the 3.8. It's weak in horsepower but is a solid engine. 277,000 Kilometers on it and has really given me no issues. It's a simple easy to service engine that is naturally aspirated. Plus plenty of parts if and when I need them.
I've put almost 3/4M miles on my 3 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L's. They are practically bulletproof, however they don't get the mileage of the newer engines. They don't seem as refined, as powerful, or as quiet as the newer engines. I get 17mpg in town w/AC in my 4.0L. But I get 22-24mpg in town with my 3.2L Cherokees.
It’s the direct injection that causes the majority of the problems. Multi port didn’t see these problems that I remember.
@budlanctot3060 Yeah it's the tighter tolerances of the newer engines and the lighter oils that make them more efficient. Combine that with direct injection, vv timing, and turboed engines, and lighter materials and then newer engines also need to meet stricter standards. I will still stick with my old engine because at the end of the day newer engines will never be as reliable or as easy to maintain. Plus parts are cheaper and are plentiful.
You need to do a video on “the worst automotive fasteners of all time”.
Starring Triple Square and External Torx. Cameos from Allen-headed Head Bolt and Spline Socket. Sounds like a blockbuster!
Sunday morning video, thanks Eric.
Didn't know Honeywell made turbos
Was called honeywell now just Garrett Motion. Garrett Honeywell have been the same co for a long time.
Lake Speed Jr suggests that higher power turbo engines must
1. have SP oil changed a 1/2 mfg recommend intervals. Use Valvoline renew and protect brand to remove deposits.
2. Use only Tier 1 premium high octane gas from quality source.
3. Use Techron Concentrate (pea, I think) every 3000 miles to keep the injectors clean.
4. Don't accelrate under heavy load from low speed when cold.
These steps supposedly help prevent low speed predetonation between the rings where the high Ca of the wrong oil, mixes with gasoline that has leaked in and created a low RON number mixture that predetonates and blows the Putin to hell.
See Lake Speed Jr. Videos.
Having the dream of rebuilding an engine some day, your channel provides me with unlimited motivation. Not only do I see how things are constructed/deconstructed, but I see the process for tearing an engine down in steps that keep the parts in good order. Something I feel I am now fully qualified to do - especially the "tossing across the room into a bin" part, although still in doubt about how it will ever run again. Baby steps I guess.
I grew up in Temperance, Mish-Gin, and a lot of my neighbors worked for Jeep in Toledo, a few miles away. Some of their kids wanted to follow their fathers into manufacturing jobs, but it was highly competitive and many were turned away. They all did other things such as GO TO COLLEGE, but there is total nepotism in the auto industry. And how well your dad is liked makes all the difference in the world in auto manufacturing circles to this day.
Toledo native, can confirm
@@jeffreyshepherd8488 Ever hang out at Frankies?
Thanks Eric i got this one in my JL. Love my 2.0.
let's hope yours does better than this one!
@@TotesCray there are thousands of these on the road and i am on the Jeep pages. I have not heard of issues like this on the 2.0. Not sure what happened to this one.
@@TotesCray i would say running the higher octane fuel in it is better. It does feel pingy with the lowest octane.
Do you do your own oil and filter changes?
What interval?
What grade of oil do you use?
Are you in an intense heat/cold area?
Different places in this world have different oils specified, and wildly different oil and filter change intervals...all for the same engine.
Plus, of course, wildly different "normal" use of the vehicle/engines.
When your national speed limit is 60mph (100kmh) and other countries have unlimited , or 80mph , or anywhere from 70 to 100mph as "normal"....
the wear characteristics of the same engine/different country really stand out.
Nice save catching that cam. Yeah, I saw that.
Is there a helicopter turbine coming as a Christmas special???
That'd be a fun one! Maybe agentjayz has a really dead pt6 he can donate to the cause..
My furnace use this same turbo setup !!!
Oooh yeah my Saturday just got a whole lot better.
Hi Eric! I've never been this early.
(Posted 48s ago lol)
Those oil return lines are really fun to change in the vehicle. 🤣
Working at an indy shop I had to reseal the oil separater on one of these. This whole engine is a joke of a design
@ there was a tsb for the return line leaking. This one was so bad it was 3 qt low on oil. They brought it into the dealer for an oil change. Not one mention on how bad it was running. It survived though.
Had a grand cherokee 4xe in for warranty. Engine was locked, block cracked, and pieces of piston on the belly pan. #4 plug was so destroyed, it was unable to be removed. Unfortunately couldn’t tear it apart, or send it on for a video, cause the dead one had a core charge
Another saturday night engine teardown, christmas came early
It’s find it kind of hard to believe that a cast aluminum valve cover with threaded holes wouldn't be less expensive to manufacture than a plastic one with 18-20 brass threaded inserts.
Low speed pre ignition right there
Seeing the rockers in that condition makes sense. Done plently of oil changes on these and the valvetrain is super loud afterwards 😬
Any factory paperwork admitting the wrong oil specified come out...yet?
After the oil change?
@@solderbuff
Probably until the oil filter gets filled up by the oil pump and before full pressure oil reaches those roller lifters way up there in the head????
It still rattles even when there has been oil pressure for a good amount of time. My guess is the engine doesn't like being hot with cold oil put in it. Or the rockers really don't like to pump up or something
@@mattconway8900
I wonder if a scan tool will give you running oil pressure...or at least from cold through to hot...and hw that might compare to "spec"?
Thanks, and Merry Christmas to you and yours.
New tear down Frick yeah
I see the cam lobes are pressed on so the could do roller bearings on all the cam journals, that would be a big help for the cams.
I want a jeep with as few things that can go wrong and I can fix on the trail.
270hp is on par with the top spec VW / Audi 2.0. Not bad.
Nice new Impact! You said 1/4 inch?
Thank You Eric....................Jay
I had a 2019 jeep JL with this engine for about 10K miles. I live at 5000 feet elevation and it was very peppy to drive. Did fine in easy off road driving. I got rid of it before it broke. Now I drive a 2000 Jeep TJ with the 4.0L inline six, 5 spd. I enjoy it just as much and it cost 1/4 the money, will probably last 4x as long.
Rolling element bearings do not need pressure oil feeds . They run perfectly well with as little as an oil mist as shown by two stroke crankshaft bearings
@PaulG.x Took a Honda C250RS across France, (think XL250 in a road frame) missed checking the oil on *one* gas stop, at the next one the transmission felt stiff. Pulled the dip stick and went to wipe it. It's dry? "Why is the filler hole smoking??!! Filled it with best oil they had, seemed fine...Thank god for ball bearing motors.
@@grahammonk8013, hmmm. Why would transmission be stiff?
@@solderbuff In motorcycles, engine and gearbox are usually using same oil. And the wet clutch
It’s a Jeep thing!
Cam Craps 😂😂😂 gets me every time
From my own personal archives... The last time I saw set of rings come apart like that was when we disassembled a Detroit Diesel (Series 60 I believe). The waste gate was no longer controlling the boost. The diesel mechanic I was working with said he'd seen this before. It was a rare thing to see it happen. The owner was happy due to the engine still being under warranty. The driver was thrilled with the extra horsepower. Until it went bang and left him stranded.
I assume all of these modern GDI turbocharged motors have some type of waste gate. Enlighten me if you happen to know for sure.
It does have a wastegate (visible when the turbo was on the bench). In this case, it's operated by an electric servo motor, controlled by the ECU. An overboost on an engine like this will trip a fault code and put it in limp-home mode.
Can't wait to see that new I6 Hurricane. Been hearing they've been having issues.
This Hurricane 2.0L appears to be seriously over engineered, which adds more potential failure points. Unfortunately, the 3.0L Hurricane engine is probably over engineered as well.
And I’ve said it before, but Eric DEFINITELY has a timing chain fetish!!!!
The 3.0L is just a longer version of this engine.
Pentastar for the win. Glad I didn't buy the JL with a 2.0 Turbo.
I’m starting to see a pattern of GDI engines taking a dirt nap on your videos !
Hey eric ive watched everyone of your episodes for years and i love them and you have torn down almost every enthusiast engine but i haven't seen a 2.4t out of the srt4 or pt gt!
My wife’s car is a 2019 2.0 Jeep Cherokee Overland. The transmission is a nine speed.
Update it has 70,000 miles on it one’s good so far still under warranty until 100,000 miles so hopefully it blows up before then also change your oil every 5000 miles
The Alfa Romeo 2.0 is even more interesting with the multi air instead of twin cams.
I think I’d get the Pentastar paired with the manual.
I have to drive a manual. Thus is was much harder to find a used Jeep Wrangler.
The 8 spd automatic is pretty good. I'm a fan of manuals though.
Eric, i didnt take time to read ALL the comments, but i definitely skimmed through a bunch. This NOT a Hurricane engine. The I6 twin turbo is the Hurricane.
I also take offense that they reused the hurricane name for that
The hurricane will always be the jeep F134
The go devil will be the Flathead 134 and the super hurricane will always be the 6cyl flathead
What... No jokes or laughing at the spark plug well gaskets?!
Those plugs are black. Oil burner for sure. There was no "malice in the combustion palace" or "spring in those rings".
There is a driving procedure for any turbo engine. Don't drive it hard when cold, drive it slow for the last few minutes before shutdown. And be careful with the fuel. Neat design motor there.
Saturday night tear down, just in front of Saturday Night Live!
I kind of like this engine.
One dollar, two ninety eight. (Value of every part.)
Tightest head bolts I’ve seen.
Those pistons went zoom zoom boom like a MazdaSpeed3 or Subaru. Goodbye ringlands.
What is strange is the decision to use an open deck design with a turbo boosting over 20. I believe the cylinders either shifted, causing one of them to change it's roundness breaking rings. Make sure FCA/stellantis is made aware of the piston destruction. It may be a defect or the open deck design allowing the cylinders to change shape as I stated earlier
Really appreciate all the editing you do to capture the Crack of those head bolts - and mains too.
And holy crap have they got the friction down to nothing now. Amazing.
Can't be much friction when only 2 pistons have a good ring set and non scored bores...
IF IT'S ANY CONSOLATION, WE SAW TWO BAD JEEP ENGINES LAST WEEK, A 4 CYLINDER AND A V6. Both less than 5 years old and under 70,000 miles.
Neighbor had the same engine, his went at 68k.
just replaced a intake cam on a 3.6l JL two weeks ago. also under 70k. wiped lobe and rocker
Have you ever done a Caterpillar C15? That would be cool.
The Pentastar V6 was designed with Mercedes back when they owned Chrysler, so it's not surprising that a modern FCA/Stelantis engine would not have any common parts.
I think if this was low speed detonation, there would have been a lot of melting on the piston crowns. We didn't see that. What we saw was the rings seized and broken which is why this engine was dead. I'd say that's likely incorrect oil, despite being changed as much as the manufacturer recommended. If you look, the "good" pistons oil rings were also not in good shape. Which is why I think what I think,.. wrong oil,.. either in viscosity, grade or both.
Those Gen 2 Stubby impacts are amazing
I drove a 2022 Grand Cherokee 4xe rental for 9 weeks. It had this engine in it. It was a hybrid. The Grand Cherokee is a fairly heavy SUV. I was surprised how good it moved under its own power. With no help from the electric assist. It had the normal 4 cylinder noise while accelerating. I would never buy it for my personal vehicle. I prefer the 3.6 V6 I have in my wrangler.
They really do look like they took a step down with the hurricane or maybe a few steps down pretty sad
Keeping up the quality content. Please tear down an Audi 5v engine
Holy smokes, the home thermostat and alarm company makes turbo honey-Well, I never was aware of this .
Honeywell is a massive company that makes tons of stuff. Like the turbine engine in the M1 Abrams Tank, for instance.
Honeywell is the parent company of Garrett
which Milwaukee model impact took off that crankshaft bolt?
I have a Jeep Liberty with a 3.7. I have beat the snot out of it since 2016. Not sure how good they are to others, but I am sure someone will chime in.
I would send a small piece of every piston to a lab to confirm the casting! Piston 4 smells like contamination in the casting!