its amazing. I don't prefere to watch people in their faces and see their expressions when the focus should be on what they are doing. Maybe its some kind of my underlying problem , have no idea. BTW this is the best tutorial I have seen in a while.
Today I went into a neighborhood tire shop and told them I'm converting to tubeless tire from my traditional 26" rim. He suggested that I buy a new bike instead. Haha. What a douch.. Last time I'm going to that shop!
Scumbag bike shops...the bane of my life...my local shop did my tubeless for the price of a roll of gorrilla...gave me 300ml fluid out of the barrel each wheel for nothing.plus a lesson for next time...3inch black diamond butchers have a large case space.so needed 3 pumps fluid......great bike shops are a thing to be treasured and cherished in today's climate .... most shops are bandwagonesque??oh yeah...Big up Castleford Cycles.. Yorkshire.. recycling specialist shop...life didn't end after 6 gears.....my new build is a 91 Santa Cruz rock lobster deore thumbshifters on friction to cover the Mavic crossmax back wheel... Joe Murray project 2 forks. tweet stem..wtb saddle..All from the bike pile... dropped on an xt on Mavic 231 front wheel with xt skewer and a pair of conti mountain kings....truactive husslefelt isis cranks with 36 22 chainrings up front so I've a granny ring to go to....I'm 51 after all....a small cage X5 sram derailer.....all well used stuff....but it still works... all good fun..... cheap.and you can bet it'll be just as much fun to ride as my nduro 7 Haibike....at about the same price as my spare charger too......long live old school bike shops....and all who sail from them
@@charlestan6546 I've an old old 26 rock lobster and a plus size 27.5. considering going mullet. Haibike.7 nduro xduro......they both have their charms but you just know which 1 is faster....I don't have to say....new school is so more stable and old school takes more of a wrestling match.......but I love them both.....
Awesome video! I've been running tubeless for about 15 years. The one recommendation I'd make to my younger self would be to invest in a good air compressor from the start. I like the ones from California Air Tools. Not only will it save you tremendous time and headache getting these things to seal, but it opens up a whole new world for other tools for around the house. Just consider it an investment that will serve you well for many many years.
My tires were really hard to get on and off the rim. I was sure I screwed up and lost some sealant. To my surprise it worked really well. Did a hard 10 mile single track the same day, no issues. Thanks for the valve tip, saved me $20.
Excellent video. Very linear from beginning to end with a nice value to the consumer. It would be nice to see more things in life that are communicated as clearly.
Trying to run gorilla tape on my envies makes it much harder to roll a tire around the rim with the extra thickness of the tape. So I do go for stands tape, it makes getting the tire on my rim possible. As well, reusing your tube valve is a good idea if it has a removable core. (Making refreshing your sealant easier). Although running tubeless you should still carry a tube in that off chance you get a hazard flat. So go buy another tube.after cutting up your perfectly good one. Or maybe you could find an old tube that has already a puncture and utilize that valve. But again I doubt you will have a removable core.
First, this is a super clear, well done video, much better than 99% of how to videos on youtube. Below was my experience applying what I learned from this video to convert my 29er 2.2" tires to tubeless. Overall the advice was great, but it took two attempts to make it seal properly. In my case, I did not have a pump with a reservoir or a high speed inflator, either of which I think would have made my first attempt work better, since in the initial inflation there are so many places for air to escape (and sealant to leak out). I used my Ryobi 18 volt battery powered electric inflator, which is not terribly fast. I think it probably helps if the tire is inflated really fast (i.e. with a pump that delivers a high volume of air per second) when doing the initial seal. Also, the casual finger tightening of the valve nut did not seal the valve well enough. On my second attempt, the partial messy sealing from the first attempt made for fewer big air gaps for leakage plus I tightened the valve nut with pliers, to reduce the air gap around the valve as it was trying to seal. For the second attempt the following day I added about 30 ml more sealant, spread it around inside the tire on each side and inflated it again. This time I was able to get it pretty quickly up to 60 psi, where I left it for several hours to let the tire seat and the sealant do its magic. This time there was far less sealant leakage, it seated nicely and the gauge climbed pretty fast up to 60 psi. Mission accomplished. Thanks again for making this tutorial. Time to ride.
This is actually one of the best, maybe the best tutorial I have seen in my life. Not just for tubeless, but for whatever i watched in my life, and I watched A LOT of stuff. Thank you.
Before I add sealant I dry pump to see if it actually holds air at least 3 minutes for decent seal. There im confident i will not be wasting sealant . Great vid 👌
The tape you used to seal the rim deteriorates overtime. Mine I used elastomeric sealant (those found in roof gutter) to seal the rim holes and it works just fine. Well I just recommend this to those who want to go tubeless permanently. But that tape works just fine and your video proves it. Goodjob
Thanks for the video. I did like this to my older 26" Trek 8500 with Mavic Crossride non tubeless rims. Tires are lightweight but anyway tubeless ready Schwalbes Nobby Nic front and Fat Albert rear. It works great but I had to use air compressor to get the tires to seat on the rims. This is the cheapest way to go tubeless. In the future I will use anyway specific tubeless valves as then I can add the sealant through the valve as those have removable valve cores. Another extra thing I will do in the future is I will install the tires first without the sealant after I have put Gorilla tape. Then I will fill them to 40 psi so the Gorilla tape will attach even firmer to the rim. After this I will add the sealant and refill them. I clean the rims with CRC Bräkleen brake cleaner and when I put the Gorilla tape I put it on the rim very firmly and make sure there is no air left under the tape. I found Stan´s No Tubes tubeless valves for great price only around 3,50 euro per valve (-60% from the normal price). Gorilla tape is a good and cheap method. It costs here only 3 euro per 9 meter (25 mm width). One Gorilla tape roll can be used with around 6 rims (at least with 26" rims). So total price per rim is around 4 euro in the future + tire and sealant. I used now Zefal sealant around 60-80 ml per tire which costed 30 euro for 1 liter (1000 ml). So sealant cost per tire is around 2 euro. I also ordered Orange Seal Endurance sealant for use with more difficult tires like Schwalbe Racing Ralph very lightweight and thin (read porous) sidewall version. It should seal even better.
This worked like a charm! I used extreme hold tape from 3m that I had laying around in the garage to tape the rims, slime from O'Reilly auto part store - large bottle 946ml $14, old punctured 26in tube presta valve cut out just like the video and also a regular floor stand bike pump. Estimate I used 120ml of slime for each 29in tire. Awesome video and great DIY tips for cheap! Thanks!
Just did this over the weekend. Gorilla tape and old presta stems. I used 3/8 rubber faucet washers to help give a uniform seal. Did a dry air up first and they both held air. Made up some homebrew sealant and went for it. Sealed up good after a few rotations of the tires. Been holding air since Saturday. Thanks for the video!
Nice vid. I prefer using an undersized tube as my tire liner (as opposed to duct tape) but either way tubeless is the only way I ride now. I typically get over 10,000 miles on a pair of tires and I never get flats
Easiest tubeless conversion I’ve seen so far. I did the Stans notube conversion kit a few days ago, wasn’t that easy. Will be using your method on the wifes bike soon
Hell yeahhh this popup on my TH-cam homepage as i had watch another vid which was so confusing. I decided to watch yours and hell yeah i own a fatbike and will definitely do this. Awesome and thanks for the tutorial.
I absolutely would only do the valve stem trick if they have removable valve cores. The cores get gummed up and need replacing from time to time, plus it's so much easier to remove the core and add a sealant refresh through the valve than popping off your sealed tire and adding it that way. As an alternative to Gorilla tape, which leaves a horror show of adhesive on the rim, Scotch 8896 strapping tape works a treat and one roll does many tires. Lastly, TruckerCo sealant seems to be the most economical out there, and I've had no problems with it sealing most punctures (Road, TT, cyclocross, MTB - yes, I've converted them all!)
@@ChildrenOfTheLoam Doesn't the layers of tape (if hypothetically speaking I have put two or more layers) bother with how the bead will pop into the tire and hold on to the non tubeless ready rim?
I had mine done yesterday £115.50 for front and back tyres 27.5 X 3.0 the kid at bike shop said don't attempt it yourself.. looking at this it's easy but price I paid was cheap enough tyres are decent aswell.. great video btw very informative
Just did a quick test to see if my cheap plastic floor pump would seat the tire. It works! I used some narrower (narrower than the rim width) electrical tape but made sure to wrap from one rim wall to the other. Seems critical, It gives the tire bead something to grip against. It maxes out at 25-30 psi for now. No sealant yet. Lots of leaks in the tire sidewall (Conti XKings). Will redo the whole thing this weekend and put sealant.
Update: redid the whole setup with gorilla tape and Ryder sealant. Took a few days to fully seal on my non-tubeless rim and tire (Continental XKing) Critical step is to let the wheel lie flat on each side so that sealant gets on the sidewalls.
Update: just completed a test ride on the trails. I tried riding as rough as I could, bashing the tire around on rocks and roots, just to see if the bead would burp air. It works great, no leaks & no burps. Ran it at 30 psi then down to 20psi. Sweet spot is somewhere in the middle for my setup.
I'm doing this as soon as my tubeless tire comes in. I've been running tubes for a very long time and I'm a heavy guy and sick & tired of getting pinch flats. Rims on my bike are already tubeless ready. Thanks to this vid I'm gonna save money on the conversion.
Bro you must have been working out? The way you took off that rim strip...looks so easy. But it took me more than ten minutes to figure out how to take it down..And i didn't dare to use my bare hand!
He tells you in the video what pump it was. It a bontrager flash pump. But if you have an air compressor with an air tank don't waste your money on that hand pump. Get one of those cheap air blaster guns with a rubber point tip. Remove the valve and blast air in works perfectly for me.
Just what I was looking for you make it look so easy a bike shop told me not to play around with tubeless as the tend to leak a lot. I think I will still give them a go. Thanks for sharing I have sub.
I like to put the tube back in the tire and pump it up to maximum pressure. This will squeeze out all the air between the rim and tape layers. Then take the tube out and complete as you show. It adds another step but prevents that leaky problem wheel from happening. Which I’ve had a couple, though I use Stan’s tape which maybe the cause.
I had put the tape and got a cheapo tube with the sharder valve and tire levers. And was wondering if this gorilla tape and home made valve would work and I stumbled on this amazing video of another great mind at work
Great write up! I'll be referencing this video if I go tubeless. Love seeing those tires I think they're my favorite I've ever owned. Jealous of the 2.4 width. Flip them backwards when they're worn down you'll get an extra season or more out of them!
Great job ! Does this require Tubeless specific tires or can we succeed perhaps with a normal "Non-tubeless" quality MTB tire ? I'm doing a 26 x 4 Fat Tire - any suggestions ? Appreciate hearing from you or others !
Seems like normal MTB tires work as well, at least Maxxis advertises this for their tires: r2-bike.com/MAXXIS-Tire-REKON-29-x-260-Dual-Compound-TR-EXO Tubeless Ready (TR) tube loose tires have many advantages: you can drive with less air pressure. This gives better traction and reduces rolling resistance. And where there is no tube , the breakdown risk also decreases. MAXXIS TR tires are better prepared for installation with sealant than other "tubeless ready" tires. The bead of the TR tire is like a real UST tube peeling completely covered with a rubber layer. As a result, tube assembly on all rims with standard dimensions is already successful on initial inflation and with little liquid. Even "normal" MAXXIS MTB tires can be mounted like other Tubeless tires with sealant as the carcass fabrics are very dense. Officially released for tubeless assembly and guaranteed by MAXXIS are only the new MAXXIS TR models. Tubeless mounting of other models is at your own risk.
That is genius! One of my local bicycle shops quoted me $40 to $50 per tire for a tubeless 27.5x2.8/3.0. That's not including if I need a new rim to handle the tubeless tire. I will definitely give this a try.
What's stopping the valve from falling into the rim without a locknut when you hook up the air pump? Also, will this work if the tire and rim are not tubeless ready? Appreciate the video
allan villadelgado awesome, thanks for the reply. I've been doing more research and it seems like this is a common procedure and works for a lot of people. Will be doing this soon. Thanks for the video
His tire *is* tubeless ready, but the rim isn't. tubeless ready stuff just makes it hell of a lot easier to set up, but any non-tubeless stuff will also work just fine. Its just a bit more finiky
Just think how many people (like me) have just spent 16 of my English Pounds on a pair of ‘Muc-Off’ valves, when I could have just used the old ones from the inner tubes! Didn’t even cross my mind 😊
Thank you very much. I just bought a Mongoose Dolomite ALX and want to go tubeless. I will purchase new valves, only because I don't want to do it twice,lol. Gorilla tape is nice idea if I can purchase it wide enough for 4" wide rims. I also purchased brand new schwinn Axum, but I'm to heavy for it right now,lol. Mongoose Dolomite ALX holds 400lbs. Axum I'll use later when I lose weight. Thanks, you got new sub.
well a tube costs around $8-$10 so 2 tubes is around $20 and for that you can buy valves and still have 2 tubes for emergency repair out on the trail, or am I wrong?
Yeah, best to keep tubes that you have flatted with and use those I'd reckon. I do find they don't always seal as well as the tubeless valves you can buy though
Since i run a motorcycle shop i salvage the valve stems from tubes. Wrap gorrila tape around the valley then poke a small hole. Use a dremal to grind the side of valve to fit channel nice put a dab of windshield sealant push thru tighten nut lightly. Sealed rim add tire inflate seat the bead then add sealant to tire.
i just bought the DHR 24x2.30 ,mainly because there are NO other tires for sale anywhere that would have FIT i had no idea if they were good or not or that they were tubeless ready neither seller even MENTIONED that so id bought liners slime & thorn resistant tubes.. when those eventually go Ill switch to the tubeless but I was lucky to find ANY tire in 24x2.30 Now seeing what I bought Im very happy that the one tire i did find & had to purchase are such good quality i was just lucky i found them on ebay before i was forced to purchased knock off DHRs from an amazon seller who had nothing but complaints at twice the price than I found the real ones for on ebay & those ship from straight from the manufacturer Maybe Ill buy a second set while they are still in stock if not when these new tires go I better find video on changing out to rims that i can purchase tires for I just bought that bike a month ago & so was very surprised to learn that you cannot purchase any tire to FIT this BRAND NEW BIKE.. and the cheap chinese tires it came with shredded right off my son was riding around on steel belts while i tried all week to FIND tires Thats how I learned that you cannot purchase new tires in that size & width anywhere in the world so why are still putting them on kids mountainbikes.. GREAT VIDEO on the tubeless conversion..since i learned they were tubeless capable I knew Id have to one day buy the special valve & watch a good you tube video. .your way seems easier Ill try that when the thorn resistant liners & slime Id bought for them fail I know eventually these tires will need to be converted
Others have said it, I have to say it again, very nice work! You've definitely got a practiced hand. You made this look easy enough for a novice to try. Thanks!
The use of gorilla tape caused me massive issue on my enve carbon wheels. The tape caused the beading of the tyre to become far tight in to the wall of the rim. When I did get a puncture where the sealant couldn't cope with the leak I couldn't get the tyre off the rim due to the size of the tape. So ended up with a long walk back to the car. When I got home it took me 2hrs to break the beading on the tyre so that I could get it off. I have recently removed the gorilla tape to use proper rim and again it took a long time to get the glue from the gorilla tape off the rim. So word of caution when using cheap tape and deep set wheels.
I just did this with 29er tough tom tires. Seems to be holding pressure just fine! I reused valves from some flats i had. I think the first one i did needs the valve screwed on tighter cause it sprung a leak a couple times. But a quick bounce of the tire to get the sealant up on it sealed it both times. I tightened the second valve more and didn't have the same problem. I had a bit of trouble sealimg my first bead even with the compressor on it. I don't really know how i fixed it, but i squeezed the tyre near the valve while inflating and it finally seated!
Best vid, I did that too : If your non tubeless tire is difficult to inflate (even with a compressor), roll a strap all over the exterior of the tire, and put some pressure on to get the beads in place before the air!
Everything From Every Where The tires are “tubeless capable”. The rims are older but seem to work. The only problem is that if it all sits too long, something gives out, probably from the sealant settling away from a bad spot on the rim. I probably just need to ride more...
You have a real knack for making a DIY video! This is a clear, informative one. I just have one question, and I don't mean it sarcastically... Why make your tires tubeless? What's the advantage of removing the tubes?
Made it look so easy, why was I fretting, even managed to inflate my tyre with a foot pump only difference is that I am going to feed the Muc-Off sealant through the valve stem having first removed the valve core itself. 10/10
Great video, thanks. Personally, I am not a fan of the Presta valves, but I could buy the specifically made tubeless Schrader valves and continue with your procedure.
This is a great vid. Exactly how I've done it. You can also buy 'Tesa' tape in much larger rolls for cheap on line. It's the same high tensile strength tape as Stans. It's even yellow. I'll have to try the gorilla tape. I never understood why people mess with removing the valve core and injecting sealant that way. So much easier and simpler to just put it in the open tire and mount the rest of the bead.
taking out the valve core to add sealant is useful later when it allows the tire to stay undisturbed, so you don't have to reseat the bead, which is a chore if you don't have a compressor or some fancy pump.
@@DominiqueB I'll add an asterisk, * "Unless you don't have a compressor or some fancy pump" to my statement. :) But in that case, I wouldn't even be trying to work on my own tubeless stuff, because without a compressor, (skip the fancy expensive pump that releases tons of air at once) it's really really hard to get tires to seat. The compressor is king. Sometimes I have to remove the valve core to pass enough air into the casing to get the tire to seat, but without it, I can see it would just not seat at all...
Thanks for sharing. Tried this method and also the one where you split an inner tube. I keep getting problems with this method, where the valve eventually leaks, but the one with the split inner tube is still going strong after over a year!
Children Of The Loam I think it might because I usually end up having to top my tyres up fairly often and maybe this leads to moving the valve slightly over time. When it's still attached to part of the inner tube, this isn't a problem. The wheel I did using this system doesn't even have a thread on the base of the valve stem! The other problem I find with tubeless if you're forced to change to an inner tube (this happened to me the other day on a ride) is that I had lots of thorns in my tyre, that had been sealed up by tubeless liquid, but were sticking through the tyre. This will just give you multiple punctures unless you remove them (not an easy task).
Very good guidance video. I am running non tubeless rims and tyres on a 29er. I reckon I can convert to tubeless following this. I've yet to be convinced by tubeless on thinner rims and tyres. But mtb in theory should be more successful
Great video I like the hack with the tire tube for valve. I have been converting to tubeless and bought muc off valves and even they leak so used rubber cement around core. I think I like your idea better and the rim tape as well! Picked me up some 1inch gorilla is the cheapest and best. Thanks
Great Vid. I was planning on doing the same with my road bike presta old tubes cut the stem and do a video on youtube with it that was a few years back but i sold the bike. I like how you did that on the mt bike. Kool vid. new subscriber.
Is it just me or does anyone else love the POV for tutorial vids like this?
I rather to watch another kind of POV videos
@@danielsepulveda912 what do you mean by that?🙂🤨😏
its amazing. I don't prefere to watch people in their faces and see their expressions when the focus should be on what they are doing. Maybe its some kind of my underlying problem , have no idea. BTW this is the best tutorial I have seen in a while.
don't we all enjoy POV 'videos'
Today I went into a neighborhood tire shop and told them I'm converting to tubeless tire from my traditional 26" rim. He suggested that I buy a new bike instead. Haha. What a douch.. Last time I'm going to that shop!
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I own an og 26er also, but it’s without a doubt slower than the new 27.5 even more the 29er. Still more fun and agile to throw around.
Had something like that happened to me too, i wanted a single chain ring employee tried to sell me a whole drivetrain😂
Scumbag bike shops...the bane of my life...my local shop did my tubeless for the price of a roll of gorrilla...gave me 300ml fluid out of the barrel each wheel for nothing.plus a lesson for next time...3inch black diamond butchers have a large case space.so needed 3 pumps fluid......great bike shops are a thing to be treasured and cherished in today's climate .... most shops are bandwagonesque??oh yeah...Big up Castleford Cycles.. Yorkshire.. recycling specialist shop...life didn't end after 6 gears.....my new build is a 91 Santa Cruz rock lobster deore thumbshifters on friction to cover the Mavic crossmax back wheel... Joe Murray project 2 forks. tweet stem..wtb saddle..All from the bike pile... dropped on an xt on Mavic 231 front wheel with xt skewer and a pair of conti mountain kings....truactive husslefelt isis cranks with 36 22 chainrings up front so I've a granny ring to go to....I'm 51 after all....a small cage X5 sram derailer.....all well used stuff....but it still works... all good fun..... cheap.and you can bet it'll be just as much fun to ride as my nduro 7 Haibike....at about the same price as my spare charger too......long live old school bike shops....and all who sail from them
@@charlestan6546 I've an old old 26 rock lobster and a plus size 27.5. considering going mullet. Haibike.7 nduro xduro......they both have their charms but you just know which 1 is faster....I don't have to say....new school is so more stable and old school takes more of a wrestling match.......but I love them both.....
4yrs later, and this is still gold! Thank you for putting this together!
Happy to help!
@@ChildrenOfTheLoam I wold do this but I don't want to mess up my 500 dollar road bike Schwinn
I used duct tape on some old 29 rims 3 years ago. Still going strong even after 3 tyre replacements.
Awesome video! I've been running tubeless for about 15 years. The one recommendation I'd make to my younger self would be to invest in a good air compressor from the start. I like the ones from California Air Tools. Not only will it save you tremendous time and headache getting these things to seal, but it opens up a whole new world for other tools for around the house. Just consider it an investment that will serve you well for many many years.
My tires were really hard to get on and off the rim. I was sure I screwed up and lost some sealant. To my surprise it worked really well. Did a hard 10 mile single track the same day, no issues. Thanks for the valve tip, saved me $20.
I've watched about 15 "experts" and this was, by far, the easiest and best video. Good job!
Excellent video. Very linear from beginning to end with a nice value to the consumer. It would be nice to see more things in life that are communicated as clearly.
Thanks a lot.
I'd have to agree. well done. simple and clear instructions. Plus we have the same bike :D
@@gio7753 ..which is shit :)
and... he really knows his stuff, solid advice. Excellent video. I learnt something today!
Trying to run gorilla tape on my envies makes it much harder to roll a tire around the rim with the extra thickness of the tape. So I do go for stands tape, it makes getting the tire on my rim possible. As well, reusing your tube valve is a good idea if it has a removable core. (Making refreshing your sealant easier). Although running tubeless you should still carry a tube in that off chance you get a hazard flat. So go buy another tube.after cutting up your perfectly good one. Or maybe you could find an old tube that has already a puncture and utilize that valve. But again I doubt you will have a removable core.
Awesome video, thank you! I’ve been wanting to go tubeless for a while and now I know exactly how I’m going to do it. Thanks 👍
I love watching great videos on TH-camless
Lmfao. Best comment of the day!
Yes sir!!! Valve DIY wins the coolest tip on Tubeless vids.
Rob Bastien Make sure you find a tube with a removable core, or refreshing your stan’s will be a little harder.
Wow! what an excellent DIY
what kind of tape you used it？ thank you
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He used Gorilla tape.
definetely gonna do this instead of buying the extra valve etc
earned a sub
First, this is a super clear, well done video, much better than 99% of how to videos on youtube. Below was my experience applying what I learned from this video to convert my 29er 2.2" tires to tubeless. Overall the advice was great, but it took two attempts to make it seal properly. In my case, I did not have a pump with a reservoir or a high speed inflator, either of which I think would have made my first attempt work better, since in the initial inflation there are so many places for air to escape (and sealant to leak out). I used my Ryobi 18 volt battery powered electric inflator, which is not terribly fast. I think it probably helps if the tire is inflated really fast (i.e. with a pump that delivers a high volume of air per second) when doing the initial seal. Also, the casual finger tightening of the valve nut did not seal the valve well enough. On my second attempt, the partial messy sealing from the first attempt made for fewer big air gaps for leakage plus I tightened the valve nut with pliers, to reduce the air gap around the valve as it was trying to seal. For the second attempt the following day I added about 30 ml more sealant, spread it around inside the tire on each side and inflated it again. This time I was able to get it pretty quickly up to 60 psi, where I left it for several hours to let the tire seat and the sealant do its magic. This time there was far less sealant leakage, it seated nicely and the gauge climbed pretty fast up to 60 psi. Mission accomplished. Thanks again for making this tutorial. Time to ride.
This is actually one of the best, maybe the best tutorial I have seen in my life. Not just for tubeless, but for whatever i watched in my life, and I watched A LOT of stuff. Thank you.
Love how direct and concise you were.
Wow! Just followed this every step and my tire seems to be holding up the air very well!! Thank you so much! Saved me a bunch of money!
update pls
How many layers of tape did you use ?
Before I add sealant I dry pump to see if it actually holds air at least 3 minutes for decent seal. There im confident i will not be wasting sealant . Great vid 👌
I wish I had seen this before spending £40 on a conversion kit 😢
Great vid man! Good tips to know for the future!
The tape you used to seal the rim deteriorates overtime. Mine I used elastomeric sealant (those found in roof gutter) to seal the rim holes and it works just fine. Well I just recommend this to those who want to go tubeless permanently. But that tape works just fine and your video proves it. Goodjob
magojiro kusanagi What elastomeric tape did you use? From Amazon?
magojiro kusanagi were you going tubeless with a fatty? I wanting to do mine and looking for all the help I can get.
Enve use/ed it for quite a while
Hope you never brake a spoke
@brdman, what PVC pipe thing are you talking about?
Thanks for the video. I did like this to my older 26" Trek 8500 with Mavic Crossride non tubeless rims. Tires are lightweight but anyway tubeless ready Schwalbes Nobby Nic front and Fat Albert rear. It works great but I had to use air compressor to get the tires to seat on the rims. This is the cheapest way to go tubeless.
In the future I will use anyway specific tubeless valves as then I can add the sealant through the valve as those have removable valve cores.
Another extra thing I will do in the future is I will install the tires first without the sealant after I have put Gorilla tape. Then I will fill them to 40 psi so the Gorilla tape will attach even firmer to the rim. After this I will add the sealant and refill them. I clean the rims with CRC Bräkleen brake cleaner and when I put the Gorilla tape I put it on the rim very firmly and make sure there is no air left under the tape.
I found Stan´s No Tubes tubeless valves for great price only around 3,50 euro per valve (-60% from the normal price). Gorilla tape is a good and cheap method. It costs here only 3 euro per 9 meter (25 mm width). One Gorilla tape roll can be used with around 6 rims (at least with 26" rims). So total price per rim is around 4 euro in the future + tire and sealant. I used now Zefal sealant around 60-80 ml per tire which costed 30 euro for 1 liter (1000 ml). So sealant cost per tire is around 2 euro. I also ordered Orange Seal Endurance sealant for use with more difficult tires like Schwalbe Racing Ralph very lightweight and thin (read porous) sidewall version. It should seal even better.
This worked like a charm! I used extreme hold tape from 3m that I had laying around in the garage to tape the rims, slime from O'Reilly auto part store - large bottle 946ml $14, old punctured 26in tube presta valve cut out just like the video and also a regular floor stand bike pump. Estimate I used 120ml of slime for each 29in tire. Awesome video and great DIY tips for cheap! Thanks!
Just did this over the weekend. Gorilla tape and old presta stems. I used 3/8 rubber faucet washers to help give a uniform seal. Did a dry air up first and they both held air. Made up some homebrew sealant and went for it. Sealed up good after a few rotations of the tires. Been holding air since Saturday. Thanks for the video!
Hi, Wondering about home brew sealaint. any tips what to look for?
Nice vid. I prefer using an undersized tube as my tire liner (as opposed to duct tape) but either way tubeless is the only way I ride now. I typically get over 10,000 miles on a pair of tires and I never get flats
I just did this today and it worked!! I hope it holds well. The guy at the bike shop didn't seem to think it would.
It held just fine
Easiest tubeless conversion I’ve seen so far. I did the Stans notube conversion kit a few days ago, wasn’t that easy. Will be using your method on the wifes bike soon
Hell yeahhh this popup on my TH-cam homepage as i had watch another vid which was so confusing. I decided to watch yours and hell yeah i own a fatbike and will definitely do this. Awesome and thanks for the tutorial.
I absolutely would only do the valve stem trick if they have removable valve cores. The cores get gummed up and need replacing from time to time, plus it's so much easier to remove the core and add a sealant refresh through the valve than popping off your sealed tire and adding it that way.
As an alternative to Gorilla tape, which leaves a horror show of adhesive on the rim, Scotch 8896 strapping tape works a treat and one roll does many tires.
Lastly, TruckerCo sealant seems to be the most economical out there, and I've had no problems with it sealing most punctures (Road, TT, cyclocross, MTB - yes, I've converted them all!)
Tried watching a video from GMBN Tech, I didn’t understand a thing. Thank you so much for such a clear, informative, helpful tutorial.
you're the ChrisFix of the MTB world, keep up the good work! subscribed...
I still think this tutorial is 1000 times better than any of the others on TH-cam
thanks for that!
Children Of The Loam while your here, what width is your backer rod that you use for your rims? And what width are your rims?
2020 and still the best tutorial on youtube.. How many layers of the tape did you go?
Just one but you can go as many as you desire for a tight fit.
@@ChildrenOfTheLoam Doesn't the layers of tape (if hypothetically speaking I have put two or more layers) bother with how the bead will pop into the tire and hold on to the non tubeless ready rim?
Dude this was a very clearly communicated video. Well done.
You deserve 25 k subscribers rather than 25!!
Kinghyun123456 !! Thanks a lot, hopefully one day.
Children Of The Loam
dedication is key
keep the good stuff up:D
Your comment just make me subscribe
This guy is awesome i just hit the subscribe button
I had mine done yesterday £115.50 for front and back tyres 27.5 X 3.0 the kid at bike shop said don't attempt it yourself.. looking at this it's easy but price I paid was cheap enough tyres are decent aswell.. great video btw very informative
Gonna try this on my non-tubeless rims and tires and update here.
Just did a quick test to see if my cheap plastic floor pump would seat the tire. It works! I used some narrower (narrower than the rim width) electrical tape but made sure to wrap from one rim wall to the other. Seems critical, It gives the tire bead something to grip against. It maxes out at 25-30 psi for now. No sealant yet. Lots of leaks in the tire sidewall (Conti XKings). Will redo the whole thing this weekend and put sealant.
Update: redid the whole setup with gorilla tape and Ryder sealant. Took a few days to fully seal on my non-tubeless rim and tire (Continental XKing) Critical step is to let the wheel lie flat on each side so that sealant gets on the sidewalls.
Update: just completed a test ride on the trails. I tried riding as rough as I could, bashing the tire around on rocks and roots, just to see if the bead would burp air. It works great, no leaks & no burps. Ran it at 30 psi then down to 20psi. Sweet spot is somewhere in the middle for my setup.
fair fucks for the updates lad
Thx man
I'm doing this as soon as my tubeless tire comes in. I've been running tubes for a very long time and I'm a heavy guy and sick & tired of getting pinch flats. Rims on my bike are already tubeless ready. Thanks to this vid I'm gonna save money on the conversion.
That tire looks so nice ...
For sure man.
Yes, the easiest and less complicated video about tubeless tire DIY. Thanks!
Bro you must have been working out? The way you took off that rim strip...looks so easy. But it took me more than ten minutes to figure out how to take it down..And i didn't dare to use my bare hand!
Mikel Jhonson did you do it in a cold or warm environment? Because if you do it in a warm environment it is easier to maneuver a tire.
Thanks for the video! I taped the rim with gorilla tape and used a shrader valve instead of a presta from an old tube and so far so good!!
Great video. What pump is that. Thanks
He tells you in the video what pump it was. It a bontrager flash pump. But if you have an air compressor with an air tank don't waste your money on that hand pump. Get one of those cheap air blaster guns with a rubber point tip. Remove the valve and blast air in works perfectly for me.
Bro how many times do I say thank you. 😀 I'm from india & tubeless setup here costs above $50. You saved me bucks
Love stuff like this... nice tip! Clearly gotten across.... Cheers.
Just what I was looking for you make it look so easy a bike shop told me not to play around with tubeless as the tend to leak a lot. I think I will still give them a go. Thanks for sharing I have sub.
I so regret buying those aluminum valves because the tire leaks from a bad valve seat and this would have been wiser yet free fix.
tighten the valve lock ring with a couple turns of a pair of pliers. Often an easy way to get a better seal.
I like to put the tube back in the tire and pump it up to maximum pressure. This will squeeze out all the air between the rim and tape layers. Then take the tube out and complete as you show. It adds another step but prevents that leaky problem wheel from happening. Which I’ve had a couple, though I use Stan’s tape which maybe the cause.
Good presentation, easy to follow the steps.
I had put the tape and got a cheapo tube with the sharder valve and tire levers. And was wondering if this gorilla tape and home made valve would work and I stumbled on this amazing video of another great mind at work
Pretty sweet hack. Thanks!!
Best video I've seen for setting up tubeless
when i was making tubeless i thought that rim strip is tubeless tape lmao
Great write up! I'll be referencing this video if I go tubeless.
Love seeing those tires I think they're my favorite I've ever owned. Jealous of the 2.4 width.
Flip them backwards when they're worn down you'll get an extra season or more out of them!
Great job ! Does this require Tubeless specific tires or can we succeed perhaps with a normal "Non-tubeless" quality MTB tire ?
I'm doing a 26 x 4 Fat Tire - any suggestions ?
Appreciate hearing from you or others !
Tubeless ready are the best. Other tires require a lot more sealant.
Seems like normal MTB tires work as well, at least Maxxis advertises this for their tires:
r2-bike.com/MAXXIS-Tire-REKON-29-x-260-Dual-Compound-TR-EXO
Tubeless Ready (TR)
tube loose tires have many advantages: you can drive with less air pressure. This gives better traction and reduces rolling resistance. And where there is no tube , the breakdown risk also decreases. MAXXIS TR tires are better prepared for installation with sealant than other "tubeless ready" tires. The bead of the TR tire is like a real UST tube peeling completely covered with a rubber layer. As a result, tube assembly on all rims with standard dimensions is already successful on initial inflation and with little liquid.
Even "normal" MAXXIS MTB tires can be mounted like other Tubeless tires with sealant as the carcass fabrics are very dense.
Officially released for tubeless assembly and guaranteed by MAXXIS are only the new MAXXIS TR models. Tubeless mounting of other models is at your own risk.
@@fishermans1friend That is a tubeless ready tire, not a "normal MTB tire".
Your video instills confidence in me to try out tubeless conversion and that too in a cheap way.
Did I miss the part where you punch the valve hole in the tape?
Just push the valve right through the tape
Bazinga!
That is genius! One of my local bicycle shops quoted me $40 to $50 per tire for a tubeless 27.5x2.8/3.0. That's not including if I need a new rim to handle the tubeless tire. I will definitely give this a try.
Including tire?
What's stopping the valve from falling into the rim without a locknut when you hook up the air pump? Also, will this work if the tire and rim are not tubeless ready? Appreciate the video
Shane Frazier both rim and tire in this vid wasn't tubeless ready. I watched other videos using the same and still works.
allan villadelgado awesome, thanks for the reply. I've been doing more research and it seems like this is a common procedure and works for a lot of people. Will be doing this soon. Thanks for the video
His tire *is* tubeless ready, but the rim isn't. tubeless ready stuff just makes it hell of a lot easier to set up, but any non-tubeless stuff will also work just fine. Its just a bit more finiky
As you can see at 6:39 the locknut is installed
there is a locknut.
Just think how many people (like me) have just spent 16 of my English Pounds on a pair of ‘Muc-Off’ valves, when I could have just used the old ones from the inner tubes! Didn’t even cross my mind 😊
He be a pro at removing the tire :)
Thank you very much. I just bought a Mongoose Dolomite ALX and want to go tubeless. I will purchase new valves, only because I don't want to do it twice,lol. Gorilla tape is nice idea if I can purchase it wide enough for 4" wide rims. I also purchased brand new schwinn Axum, but I'm to heavy for it right now,lol. Mongoose Dolomite ALX holds 400lbs. Axum I'll use later when I lose weight. Thanks, you got new sub.
well a tube costs around $8-$10 so 2 tubes is around $20 and for that you can buy valves and still have 2 tubes for emergency repair out on the trail, or am I wrong?
Yeah, best to keep tubes that you have flatted with and use those I'd reckon. I do find they don't always seal as well as the tubeless valves you can buy though
I have in garage 20 old sieve tubes. Really good tip for me.
Hack: try going around bike shops in the evening. Usually there are tons of those around; punctured, but with great valves and rubber for DYI.
I pay $4 for my tubes
Since i run a motorcycle shop i salvage the valve stems from tubes. Wrap gorrila tape around the valley then poke a small hole. Use a dremal to grind the side of valve to fit channel nice put a dab of windshield sealant push thru tighten nut lightly. Sealed rim add tire inflate seat the bead then add sealant to tire.
Just done my 2 tyres. Thanks so much. Worked a treat.
What kind of tire sealer did you use???
Did he ever reply to you? Or did you find out a good sealer?
i just bought the DHR 24x2.30 ,mainly because there are NO other tires for sale anywhere that would have FIT i had no idea if they were good or not or that they were tubeless ready neither seller even MENTIONED that
so id bought liners slime & thorn resistant tubes..
when those eventually go Ill switch to the tubeless but I was lucky to find ANY tire in 24x2.30
Now seeing what I bought Im very happy that the one tire i did find & had to purchase are such good quality
i was just lucky i found them on ebay before i was forced to purchased knock off DHRs from an amazon seller who had nothing but complaints at twice the price than I found the real ones for on ebay & those ship from straight from the manufacturer
Maybe Ill buy a second set while they are still in stock if not when these new tires go I better find video on changing out to rims that i can purchase tires for
I just bought that bike a month ago & so was very surprised to learn that you cannot purchase any tire to FIT this BRAND NEW BIKE..
and the cheap chinese tires it came with shredded right off
my son was riding around on steel belts while i tried all week to FIND tires
Thats how I learned that you cannot purchase new tires in that size & width anywhere in the world
so why are still putting them on kids mountainbikes..
GREAT VIDEO on the tubeless conversion..since i learned they were tubeless capable I knew Id have to one day buy the special valve & watch a good you tube video.
.your way seems easier Ill try that when the thorn resistant liners & slime Id bought for them fail I know eventually these tires will need to be converted
What type of sealant did you use, and what over the counter brand would work best? Thnx
Stan's works best.
Orange Seal ;)
Orange Seal Endurance and Stans Race is the best.
Have you made your own sealant? If so can you do a video on that process and recipe?
Others have said it, I have to say it again, very nice work! You've definitely got a practiced hand. You made this look easy enough for a novice to try. Thanks!
What is that liquid you put in the tire
Its just water dude
It's just MILK
This video is worth it's weight in gold!
Solid video! Thanks a ton!
I like your tyre pump. What's the of it?
Bontrager TLR Flash Charger Floor Pump www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/equipment/cycling-accessories/bike-pumps/bontrager-tlr-flash-charger-floor-pump/p/11881/
This is awesome!! My grandsons are forever needing new tubes
The tyre logo was so close to lining up with the wheel loogo 😓
just set up tubeless myself, the tip about recycling saved me some money so thanks for that bud
Julius Steezer word man, nice name too!
The use of gorilla tape caused me massive issue on my enve carbon wheels. The tape caused the beading of the tyre to become far tight in to the wall of the rim. When I did get a puncture where the sealant couldn't cope with the leak I couldn't get the tyre off the rim due to the size of the tape. So ended up with a long walk back to the car. When I got home it took me 2hrs to break the beading on the tyre so that I could get it off. I have recently removed the gorilla tape to use proper rim and again it took a long time to get the glue from the gorilla tape off the rim. So word of caution when using cheap tape and deep set wheels.
If you have carbon rims wtf are you doing in this budget tubeless build lol.
You are not bright if youre doing this to carbon rims. And if you think gorilla tape is cheap, that just goes to show your ignorance.
@@kolinstallman3788 HAHA seriously.
@RollinRat Got a link on how to do the "original ghetto split tube tubeless"?
I just did this with 29er tough tom tires. Seems to be holding pressure just fine! I reused valves from some flats i had. I think the first one i did needs the valve screwed on tighter cause it sprung a leak a couple times. But a quick bounce of the tire to get the sealant up on it sealed it both times. I tightened the second valve more and didn't have the same problem. I had a bit of trouble sealimg my first bead even with the compressor on it. I don't really know how i fixed it, but i squeezed the tyre near the valve while inflating and it finally seated!
Nice and clean..much quicker than the original "Ghetto" tubeless.
Fantastic vid. Not the first one I've watched on setting up tubeless and still learning here!
I've got a question... can you use a normal tire as well???
LongBoardAffe 01 yes, you can usually get away with it.
Children Of The Loam nice, thanks for the fast response and by the way very good videos
you should have more subscribers
LongBoardAffe 01 i'm afraid not. As for road tires I always failed but not sure about mtb tires. Sorry :)
Awesome video,I'm ready to convert after I purchase supplies. Very descriptive and easy to follow!!
Like rideing on air.
Brilliant! I am just about to buy a new bike and plan to convert it to tubeless, so this is very helpful. Thank you
Hi I AM from India please make homemade nottubes tire sealant please
Carry Cartoon just buy your sealant...
Lmao
please do a video on how to manufacture your own enduro bike
Can you do a video after that on how to manufacture the machines that manufacture an enduro bike?
Use egg white as a home made sealant.
Best vid, I did that too : If your non tubeless tire is difficult to inflate (even with a compressor), roll a strap all over the exterior of the tire, and put some pressure on to get the beads in place before the air!
Worked great on my 20-yr old Urracos. Had to trim down the tape to about 3/4”, and the tires were pretty snug. But both held air just fine.
Are your tyres tubeless or non tubeless?
Everything From Every Where The tires are “tubeless capable”. The rims are older but seem to work. The only problem is that if it all sits too long, something gives out, probably from the sealant settling away from a bad spot on the rim. I probably just need to ride more...
Good idea with the tube sniping off the tube, but the thing is, if you go and buy a tubeless stem, you can save that tube for a spare.
Excellent video especially the valve mod.I always use some weak washing up liquid solution sponged around the bead to help it seal.
Awesome video !!! The valve out of the tube works great, never thought of trying that, that idea saved me $20. Thanks man
You have a real knack for making a DIY video! This is a clear, informative one. I just have one question, and I don't mean it sarcastically... Why make your tires tubeless? What's the advantage of removing the tubes?
Thanks. It saves weight and prevents flats.
Made it look so easy, why was I fretting, even managed to inflate my tyre with a foot pump only difference is that I am going to feed the Muc-Off sealant through the valve stem having first removed the valve core itself. 10/10
Great video, thanks. Personally, I am not a fan of the Presta valves, but I could buy the specifically made tubeless Schrader valves and continue with your procedure.
This is a great vid. Exactly how I've done it. You can also buy 'Tesa' tape in much larger rolls for cheap on line. It's the same high tensile strength tape as Stans. It's even yellow. I'll have to try the gorilla tape. I never understood why people mess with removing the valve core and injecting sealant that way. So much easier and simpler to just put it in the open tire and mount the rest of the bead.
taking out the valve core to add sealant is useful later when it allows the tire to stay undisturbed, so you don't have to reseat the bead, which is a chore if you don't have a compressor or some fancy pump.
@@DominiqueB I'll add an asterisk, * "Unless you don't have a compressor or some fancy pump" to my statement. :) But in that case, I wouldn't even be trying to work on my own tubeless stuff, because without a compressor, (skip the fancy expensive pump that releases tons of air at once) it's really really hard to get tires to seat. The compressor is king. Sometimes I have to remove the valve core to pass enough air into the casing to get the tire to seat, but without it, I can see it would just not seat at all...
Thanks for sharing. Tried this method and also the one where you split an inner tube. I keep getting problems with this method, where the valve eventually leaks, but the one with the split inner tube is still going strong after over a year!
mick2d2 cool! Some valves can be tricky but I've never had an issue.
Children Of The Loam I think it might because I usually end up having to top my tyres up fairly often and maybe this leads to moving the valve slightly over time. When it's still attached to part of the inner tube, this isn't a problem. The wheel I did using this system doesn't even have a thread on the base of the valve stem!
The other problem I find with tubeless if you're forced to change to an inner tube (this happened to me the other day on a ride) is that I had lots of thorns in my tyre, that had been sealed up by tubeless liquid, but were sticking through the tyre. This will just give you multiple punctures unless you remove them (not an easy task).
Very good guidance video. I am running non tubeless rims and tyres on a 29er. I reckon I can convert to tubeless following this.
I've yet to be convinced by tubeless on thinner rims and tyres. But mtb in theory should be more successful
Great video I like the hack with the tire tube for valve. I have been converting to tubeless and bought muc off valves and even they leak so used rubber cement around core. I think I like your idea better and the rim tape as well! Picked me up some 1inch gorilla is the cheapest and best. Thanks
Great Vid. I was planning on doing the same with my road bike presta old tubes cut the stem and do a video on youtube with it that was a few years back but i sold the bike. I like how you did that on the mt bike. Kool vid. new subscriber.
well done vid. the pump was very slick. The rims HAVE to be tubeless ready - yes?
It works, I have made it the same Way. I used Michelin inner Tubes, because they have an removeable Valve.
Excellent video! Thanks! I'm through buying inner tubes and patches...
Brilliant video im picking up my new bike next week i was thinking of doing this conversion to it.
brilliant idea! Newbie question: can this be done using non-tubeless tires?
Just got my Vittoria barro race, must try that old ruber valve trick! Thanks sir!