I only dragon piercer for cutting tails and when I have a clear shot at a long monster that is stunned/knocked. But you guys have convinced me other wise. Only for tail cuts from now on
For those who struggle dodging, or for some monster attacks that are really obnoxious evade extender 2 helps. With 2 points in you can dodge rajang's super jump or clear luna's mini nova pretty fast
The silver tickets that the steamworks is making tons of during the festival have a high chance of giving rare HR decos. You should probably be doing as much steamworks as you can if you really don't have that...
Something he didn't mention in this (which was very helpful since I'm a bow novice) was that Dragon Piercer does cut damage, and isn't completely useless for taking tails off when you're too lazy to switch weapons like me.
@jitome4159 I started using the bow solo earlier this year and find it quite easy to get cuts with piercer. Just wait till the monster is ko'd or the like and fire one through tail to head or vice versa
for those starting to farm their elemental bows, prioritize lightning and ice. combination of these 2 elements will give you at least a 2 star weakness advantage on like 90% of the monsters. i personally dont enjoy bow that much with iceborne, but thats simply because in base mhw i liked hammer but found the ko buildup absolutely worthless, which has now changed
Literally just started playing this game a week ago and kinda disappointed you didn't explain dragon piercer, be it a good move or a bad one, still helpful to know WHY we should/shouldn't be using it.
This was very helpful. I always stuck to one bow, dragon piercer regularly, and tried to build for physical damage over elemental. I'll take all of this into account and see how my performance improves.
Amazing timing! I wanted to learn new weapons and so I was literally just typing "mhw bow guide" and before watching anything I checked the notifications, seeing your video. now I can learn from the best! Keep it up!
Not going to lie I don't have any of the decos to play a normal build for bow so this is how I've been using bow in iceborne and it's not bad at all lol
The bow melee attack allows for mounting from ground level. It was relevant in ATKT P1s, and it still has some use in multiplayer for prepping mount or mounting yourself. Thanks for this update! I got into bow with your original video for bow and having this for newer players is an amazing resource!
Saw a guy use it to slide down the slope when raging brachy starts pummeling the ground to avoid the stagger, and then attack him while he was still doing it.
This is actually one of the best bow guides I've ever seen tbh. Not only was it helpful and kinda funny but it was extremely simple. And straight forward. I started world with bow and I played it like I did in mh4u so I dropped it never seeing it potential.
Bro I remember hearing ALLLLL the time "U need a mighty bow jewel" in every bow main video. I spent HOURS grinding trying to find one and out right REFUSED to even start Iceborne without it and I finally got one after grinding for days of tempered monsters wen I reached hunter rank 140.
Wolverine101 I only got that deco months after finishing the main quest in iceborne (grinding the lavasioth high rank event) and randomly got another one while doing a random quest last week. I also play SnS and I'm still missing Protective Polish, so I was like "gee, thanks rngeesus, I really needed a second mighty bow deco, it's not like having more than one of these changes absolutely nothing". The rng on the deco drops is the second most annoying thing in this game for me, the first being the rng on the kulve weapon drops (I swear I got no less than four kjarr water and two dragons bows, but no ice, fire or thunder).
Arrows don't have motion values. Only melee attacks/weapons do. Also for those of us who aren't complete gods at the game and end up soloing a monster which will eventually get the monster to go to sleep (for those that do sleep) since dragonpiercer actually phases through the monster to hit multiple times it is much more effective to use if you position your bombs behind the monsters head and down the body because if you simply hit the bombs first you give up some damage potential considering your first hit on the monster does a lot more damage when it's asleep. So hit the head first with DP and have it hit the bombs second = more damage. This was covored multiple times. Even team darkside did it for their bow vids.
Funny, Charged up Dragon Pierce has knocked a Monster more than once for me. When you KO the monster and it struggles to get up, allighn yourself to the monsters fullest length and do a maxed charge dragon pierce shooting straight through it.
Thanks for the video! Its been 5 months and there's now MR Kjarr now, but this was really helpful for me as i just started playing Bow as a new weapon.
I'm glad that clutch claw isn't super broken on bow. It's super sad to hear about dragon piercer though. Tbh I will still use it. Lol probably over use it but that's because I like the move. But great guide
Nice guide. A bit late now perhaps, but in an effort to offer some constructive criticism, one thing I think it could've been worth including is some discussion about mantles; which mantles work well with bow, what decorations are good to slot into your mantles, etc. and maybe some discussion about whether status coatings decos are ever worth while (personally I like to run status coating decos on my mantles for a bit of added utility). Anyway, great content as always. Keep up the good work!
Disagree entirely on dragon pierce. That extra part break power is too useful for the more difficult part breaks and if you are using arc shot properly, you will very easily be able to create space for you to use it well.
I find moving between bow and lance to be pretty easy, because both have the mindset of reacting to the monster and countering with damage. If you're okay with dropping a few points of damage, I love running evade window for comfort. Makes it way easier to dodge through roars and attacks.
Absolutely solid guide. You are the main reason I got better with the gun weapons. I havent picked up bow in a long time might time to get better with it
Finally someone who makes a good guide for bow, there's guides out there saying dragonpiercer is a good move, i mean use it for fun sure, but it's like kicking your dps in the nuts
Thanks for this video mate, exactly what i was looking for since i am looking to get into bows. Well explained, all areas touched (basics, combos, rotations, sets), nice background music... new subscriber straight away!
Normally, yeah it's not great but I actually discovered that you could casually slide into a 1000 dragons, after standard combo rounds of arrows it doesn't have to be as stiff as it's meant to feel. it takes good muscle memory but you can definitely incorporate it in a combo after a monster is down.
same i made a 1k dragons (almost exclusive) build and yeah muscle memory plays a big key you're right. nothing better than knocking bazel completely backwards with one to the face
I personally like using different weapons for different monsters but my main pre-Iceborne was always bow. I recently got tired of fighting Barioth guild palace ticket event with the sets I already had so I made a pre-Silver Rath bow set. Using what I had available I managed to make a two-piece velkhana set for crit element and made the glavenus bow. It really felt good to get back into the flow and it was easily the least frustrating weapon to fight him with in my opinion lol
@@TerraRuns Sorry, but the first combo reaches 45% where the second combo (Con 1 - 10%, DJ - 15%, FBB - 25%) reaches 50% exactly. If you added anything to the first combo you're over cap which really isn't worth the investment.
Can you link your pc control scheme?mine feels really awkward compared to how my melee builds work. The clutch claw kind of messed up a lot for my controls.
I'll tell you all a secret. Bow is so strong that, believe it or not, you can actually play it without a mighty bow gem, and still crush all monsters really fast. (You should still have mighty bow if possible though).
Dash dancing bows are some hella damage. If you have the team damage ui mods for pc and you play the bow right, you'll see that it's easy to keep up with or even do more than big boy damage weapons like greatsword or hammer. People don't believe it till you show them the numbers
I honestly just ran Namielle set up to whatever requirement to get a good bow build. I do still run Nam mix set because sometimes I'm too lazy to fiddle around constitution and stamina surge. Afterwards I did build a silver rath set but not nearly as optimal as this video but I still enjoy the hunt nonetheless.
Just farm in guiding lands for fuel and after a few hours of doing that efficiently you should get at least 100 silver tickets on the steam. If you trade them into the melder you should definitely get all bows deco you need.
@@adonosa1 mhmm, now to get to the Guiding lands. I farmed about 700 Decos from Greater Jargas and Icebloom from the event quests. I gave up cause i figured Mighty Bow is just a damn Unicorn.
@@Adeus555 Yes..i bought iceborne 2 weeks ago, and did all the old events..lavasioth..jaggras. and didn't got any deco I needed so I did the story quest till I reached Guiding Lands and in 1 hour of farming fuel (about 66 silver tickets) I get at least 2 mighty, 2 spreads, 3 normal shots..crits..is the best way no doubt. Do that and tell me later! GL
@@adonosa1 well i finally made it to guiding lands, cashed in 71 silver tickets and still no mighty bow mod. Got a bunch of critical boosts, trueshots, attack jewels and everything else i need though. The steam is great. Farm for an 20 mins get about 30 tickets. Takes longer to spend em then make em. not worried about it anymore even if rng has been ridiculous up to this point. Just wanna switch back to bow from LBG.
Well, after watching these video I’m going to make myself a raw bow set, because I’m too lazy to farm Safi for all those elemental bows xd. Good video though. Keep them coming.
This is helping me with my fatalis bow. I used to just spam circle while dodging. I'm having some timing issues where I take too much time to power shot so it becomes a quick shot again
Look, I didn't come back to this game after a year just to feel like a scrub haha this was an excellent guide and cannot wait to put all this into practice and actually rotation
Every time I start these videos(because I want to learn) I realize how much I actually don’t. I hate “rotations” and number checks or “maximum dps”. Just removes all the fun out of playing when people say stuff like “don’t use this, don’t use that” and makes it like a job. But like I said I’d like to be able to get some good damage and skills without having to use what’s “meta” and playing only what’s approved by the board lol.
You can.. several people stated they never got a mighty bow jewel and still destroy. But yes Bow does require several skills to make managing the weapon easier. At least slot in Stam surge and constitution whenever you can. It just makes the weapon not feel so terrible.
I am pretty much new to this game (play a bit when it first came out, dropped it cause I didn’t like it, but a friend got me to try it again and I’m really enjoying it). And I haven’t finished the story yet and I don’t understand most of what your saying. All I do understand is that what I have been using and like to use a lot is bad. Well that’s helpful. Lol
I can't seem to dodge right with a bow. My guy pulls out an arrow then does a bunny hop rather than actually roll. Idk what I'm doing wrong. Maybe I suck
I wish you would go over coatings and when and why to use coatings, when to use close range or normal etc. Im very new to bow and am so overwhelmed with learning all the different terms your using for bow... I think rapid means just a regular shot? but your video has helped a TON! can't thank you enough for making a guide this amazing. I'd love if you'd follow it up with a videio going over coatings for complete and utter noobs like me.
I know you posted this 3 weeks ago but in case you're still confused... You want to use power coatings pretty much as much as you can. They're just a straight up damage increase. Sure you only carry 50 but you can bring ingredients to craft more in the field. If you do want to be more stingy with them I guess you could save them for downs or something but most of the time that isn't really necessary. Close range coatings are pretty much for when you either run out of power coatings or are using a bow that doesn't support them. The damage boost isn't as good as power coatings and they have the additional condition of making your damage drop off quickly if you're not near the enemy, but you want to be close for optimal spread/powershot damage anyway so the latter isn't as big of a deal as it sounds. Plus close range coatings are infinite and every bow can use them. Blast coatings are pretty useless. Don't bother. Poison can be useful for enemies weak to poison, though regular bow damage is so high I wouldn't use that that much in generall. It typically takes more hits from a bow than a bowgun to apply a status and you're doing significantly reduced damage with status coatings on. But for something that takes extra poison damage like Shara or Safi I could see it being useful. Paralysis and sleep can be really useful for certain CC strategies but also don't see that much use in general. But there was stuff like P1ing KT back in HR where CC bow in area 4 was *the* go-to strategy. That required support from the whole team though. In a solo hunt the 'problem' is again that bow does so much damage that most of the time you're better off just attacking the monster normally (and you can still get staggers and trips that way...).
I have a question (newbie here) what do you mean when at 9:51 and onward, when you talk about "skill priority" and the top one being element? Do you mean the element on our bows? Like how some bows have ice, water, and or fire dmg? Or is this section referring to something else. I bought the game ages ago when it was on sale, but only now just got it when it was on sale. I appreciate being informed of the proper rotation/things to keep in mind to keep DPS high.
Hello! Incase you haven't figured out, what he means is the priority of skills to add to your set via armor skills or decoration slots. So prioritize certain skills because the synergies are better than other skills.
On a 5 piece Safi armor set, should you stop at level 1 Coalescence? Or go ahead and max it out at level 3? Trying to figure what’s optimal or worth it...
I believethats the best and Most reflected Guide Out there. Im tryibg to make IT Work AS i Just started. Wouldve liked it If you went over a Low geared Rotation or some quick Tips but im getting there
Thanks. I’ve now learned that the bow isn’t for me. I don’t particularly enjoy using it and only did so because fighting obnoxiously airborne monsters like Rathalos and Legiana with melee weapons is even less fun than using the bow. And now that I know my use of the bow is remarkably inefficient (much less decent), I’m better off learning another weapon entirely. I gotta rely on doing rocket science in my daily life, I don’t need it seeping into the time I spend playing Monster Hunter also. Thanks for the video.
Remember that this is about being as optimal as possible, you very much can play the game however you want and fire as many dragon piercers as you want. Personally mhw isn't a game that I want to bother optimising too much, so you can keep this as useful knowledge and go back to playing how you want
Don't let his clear distaste for non-meta, unoptimized builds discourage you from playing how you want. I love playing bow, and I spam my arc shot on downed monsters because I know that my dodge game isn't great so I'll take any chance I can get to slow down a monster to allow me to damage to them. Play how you want, as long as you aren't carting constantly no one will hate you.
What do you think is more important to slot in, granted you have the available decoration slots: Normal Up or Spread Up? For someone who still uses the old combo of Q R R R P, would I benefit more from Normal Up since I'm using rapids more? Or would it still be more beneficial to run Spread Up to increase the DPS spike?
Could add the trick where if you stop in between shots, you can let your stamina regen a bit and not keep emptying your stamina. Some/most speed runners use it
Base 5% + Agitator ( 5% when active ) + WE ( 30% ) + max crit.eye ( 40% ) = 80% The leftovers are handled by wether you attack the wounded parts for WE or not ( Extra 20% )
Long gone are days of constantly searching monster weaknesses on the net. When I played my first monster hunter I thought elements would work like pokemon
Phemeto something I have always wondered about but never asked before. How do you have the camera turning when you dash around the monster or the pole. The monster just keeps going offscreen and I have to either press L1 to refocus or manually turn the camera. Overall I find 5th gen bow clunky because of this in comparison to previous games but that's just me and it's a shame because I want to use these sweet Safi bows I awakened. I spend more time getting the camera on the monster than I should. I'm on Xbox btw. Also on a side note but smaller monsters like Viper Kadachi I find highly annoying to use bow on. Decided to try bow on it for the current crown quest that's up and that was a mistake. :D
@@sadude88 That's not what I'm talking about and that doesn't snap to the monster it just targets them and then you use L1. But as I said that's not what I'm talking about. As you can see in this video when Phemeto shoots a monster and dashes around it the camera moves along with him. That doesn't happen with me unless he's very good at clawing and moving the camera at the same time which I can't do.
I absolutely love the skill mushroomancer for bow, keeps the resources cheap, abuse the devil blight and dash juices. Also poping a mandragora after getting hit is awesome
I used Mushroomancer all the time in base game but honestly between how easy it is to meld for dash juice now and radial crafting max potions its really not worth it. Materials are no longer an issue with so many farm slots and Steamworks pretty much take care of your potion needs.
The arc-shot balls, does anyone else remember playing Mario Kart 64 on the Donkey Kong jungle map and having those spiked balls hit you if you stayed too far off course? 😆
Arc shot happens when you're still charging an arrow and press circle (or B Xbox). After you release a charged arrow, hit circle or B. The charge of the arrow determines the number of arrows and power. It uses less stamina to power shot after a charged shot. Hope that helped.
Dont spam the button, just press it once after a dash/chain. if you accidentally press it twice the arc comes out. Go to training mode to practice not button mashing but learning the actual button combo's and timing.
PSA: let allies get out of your way when shooting! Otherwise HBG users like me will 100% resent you and send you flying with a wyvernblast simply out of rage at your inconsiderate shooting.
Man, this is a great video. Relevant, goes over everything, and concisely explains what to look for without beating you over the head with picking up what's meta. Great work.
Do you use different builds for solo/speedrun and Coop/casual? Would love some advice to build for bow for coop. Im having trouble getting good skills in, and I have all the decos.
I used to cut Xeno Jivas tail with Dragonpiercer back in the day. Don't underestimate the partbreak values on that. Also doing a wake-up hit with Dragon Piercer or Thousand Dragons is fine. Another thing worth noting that Dash Juice also gives you roughly level 2 or 3 Marathon Runner from my testing which can help conserve some of your precious stamina when disengaging/repositioning.
I hate saying this but do you have any recommendations on farming for a mighty bow deco? I’ve tried everything I can think of and still can’t get one. Is it even worth playing now without it?
honestly it took me about 100 hours of just farming the lavasioth quest and getting warped/worn feystones to get it. I would say that or using silver tickets from steamworks is your best bet. Good luck to you
Great video! So much knowledge dropped. Thank you. Question: have you ever thought if velkana’s crit skill stacks with silver los true crit element? Or hopefully tested it?
Can confirm Crit Ele/True Crit Ele do not stack. TCE just takes priority. It is possible to stack Element Acceleration with TCE with Safi weapons, but Element Acceleration gives you less element than an Element Up V anyway so there's really no point.
one question tho... as far as water vs ice goes, are there any monsters where the water shot beats the legiana bow by any significant margin? most monsters weak to water are also weak to ice, and since the legiana bow is so much stronger than the water bow in terms of stats is there really any reason to invest in a water build?
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So in other words u should use dragon piercer exclusively
100%
tigrex bow with crit draw and 4 piece velkana ;) if nothing else it's a fun meme
Marcus Taurasi dear lord I get so triggered with a fellow bow player is using dragon piercer when a monster is downed
@@GhilledM21 1K dragons is acceptable at the end of a down tho for a big burst and depending on slinger ammo a decent chance at another KO...
I only dragon piercer for cutting tails and when I have a clear shot at a long monster that is stunned/knocked.
But you guys have convinced me other wise. Only for tail cuts from now on
For those who struggle dodging, or for some monster attacks that are really obnoxious evade extender 2 helps. With 2 points in you can dodge rajang's super jump or clear luna's mini nova pretty fast
jacob Herrera Do you have a mouse that has side thumb buttons? If you do, I’d recommend setting one of the buttons to aim in.
Thats why i went full safi, instead of silver los, that evade extender is blessing
Evade
@@w0ddlee console
@@yogsothoth-tz2bu full safi grant 3 point of evade window right? not evade extender?
Everytime he says mighty bow, I cried a little bit inside, since I still dont have a jewel...
The silver tickets that the steamworks is making tons of during the festival have a high chance of giving rare HR decos. You should probably be doing as much steamworks as you can if you really don't have that...
I have every non lvl 4 but I’ve never gotten a pierce deco hah
I got some of the rare jewel in the grinding lands, but my drops for gem etc really sucks
@@kevadu I have done close to 200 silver tickets and still dont have mighty bow...
@@corukana on the other hand I have like five but still can't get guard up.
RNG is real annoying sometimes
Something he didn't mention in this (which was very helpful since I'm a bow novice) was that Dragon Piercer does cut damage, and isn't completely useless for taking tails off when you're too lazy to switch weapons like me.
what about the lunging melee arrow attack?
@@visceraeyes525 yes, but he also says never to use that ever...
Wait, those do cut damage? Wow I never knew.. I've been playing it wrong. I wonder if you can get good enough to sever tails solo 🤔
@jitome4159 I started using the bow solo earlier this year and find it quite easy to get cuts with piercer. Just wait till the monster is ko'd or the like and fire one through tail to head or vice versa
I love how there's blood when you shoot arrows at the pole.
That's a mod on pc
Pretty sure thats the vaal bows dragon element effect
@@Iroh_158 No it's a mod on PC for blood. He featured it before in another video.
it's just a blood mod. normally there's no blood in MHW.
@@tinykass imo they should bring back blood bc a monster bleeding rocks makes no sense lmao
for those starting to farm their elemental bows, prioritize lightning and ice. combination of these 2 elements will give you at least a 2 star weakness advantage on like 90% of the monsters.
i personally dont enjoy bow that much with iceborne, but thats simply because in base mhw i liked hammer but found the ko buildup absolutely worthless, which has now changed
Thanks man, imagine having to get silver rathalos essence in 5 safi bows, bow sets are expensive as fuck, I wasn't sure which element to get first.
Bow sets are expensive and decos reliant... *sigh*..
Me too. I didnt like bow. I also hate the silver los armor. I would run true crit as a charm tho, but never will i run that armor
@@lawlrd6655 Why? Just use Layered armor
@@zheta42 not the appearance. The stats and slots
Literally just started playing this game a week ago and kinda disappointed you didn't explain dragon piercer, be it a good move or a bad one, still helpful to know WHY we should/shouldn't be using it.
This was very helpful. I always stuck to one bow, dragon piercer regularly, and tried to build for physical damage over elemental. I'll take all of this into account and see how my performance improves.
Amazing timing! I wanted to learn new weapons and so I was literally just typing "mhw bow guide" and before watching anything I checked the notifications, seeing your video. now I can learn from the best! Keep it up!
Wait, so you're telling me my crit draw+ frost craft meme dragon piercer set isn't META???
It's totally meMETA! Don't let them deceive you.
@@MrHenbas ew
Not going to lie I don't have any of the decos to play a normal build for bow so this is how I've been using bow in iceborne and it's not bad at all lol
It's not even a meme anymore. Dragonpiercer just sucks.
Its a way of flexing on others by penetra-I mean piercing monsters into submission with your superiority
I've watched several bow guides, but this one really clicked with me. Thank you for explaining the terminology!
The bow melee attack allows for mounting from ground level. It was relevant in ATKT P1s, and it still has some use in multiplayer for prepping mount or mounting yourself.
Thanks for this update! I got into bow with your original video for bow and having this for newer players is an amazing resource!
That's what i use it for, especially late in multiplayer hunts
Saw a guy use it to slide down the slope when raging brachy starts pummeling the ground to avoid the stagger, and then attack him while he was still doing it.
This is actually one of the best bow guides I've ever seen tbh. Not only was it helpful and kinda funny but it was extremely simple. And straight forward. I started world with bow and I played it like I did in mh4u so I dropped it never seeing it potential.
Man, this game is brutal, even the pole in training arena bleeds. :^)
"pretend this doesn't exist" Oof
Thanks for including pre-safi stuff for PC players, specially players who just got world < a month ago
Bro I remember hearing ALLLLL the time "U need a mighty bow jewel" in every bow main video. I spent HOURS grinding trying to find one and out right REFUSED to even start Iceborne without it and I finally got one after grinding for days of tempered monsters wen I reached hunter rank 140.
Never even sniffed a mighty bow and I am having very little issue with Icebourne right now.
Wolverine101 I only got that deco months after finishing the main quest in iceborne (grinding the lavasioth high rank event) and randomly got another one while doing a random quest last week. I also play SnS and I'm still missing Protective Polish, so I was like "gee, thanks rngeesus, I really needed a second mighty bow deco, it's not like having more than one of these changes absolutely nothing". The rng on the deco drops is the second most annoying thing in this game for me, the first being the rng on the kulve weapon drops (I swear I got no less than four kjarr water and two dragons bows, but no ice, fire or thunder).
Arrows don't have motion values. Only melee attacks/weapons do. Also for those of us who aren't complete gods at the game and end up soloing a monster which will eventually get the monster to go to sleep (for those that do sleep) since dragonpiercer actually phases through the monster to hit multiple times it is much more effective to use if you position your bombs behind the monsters head and down the body because if you simply hit the bombs first you give up some damage potential considering your first hit on the monster does a lot more damage when it's asleep. So hit the head first with DP and have it hit the bombs second = more damage. This was covored multiple times. Even team darkside did it for their bow vids.
Funny, Charged up Dragon Pierce has knocked a Monster more than once for me. When you KO the monster and it struggles to get up, allighn yourself to the monsters fullest length and do a maxed charge dragon pierce shooting straight through it.
Thanks for the video! Its been 5 months and there's now MR Kjarr now, but this was really helpful for me as i just started playing Bow as a new weapon.
Great!
I've definitely been playing bow wrong. I'm so glad this video exists. The fact that I use DP and the cocoanuts a lot changes today.
I'm glad that clutch claw isn't super broken on bow. It's super sad to hear about dragon piercer though. Tbh I will still use it. Lol probably over use it but that's because I like the move. But great guide
always enjoy your videos phem, I like how you're doing tuff for pc as well as console
Nice guide. A bit late now perhaps, but in an effort to offer some constructive criticism, one thing I think it could've been worth including is some discussion about mantles; which mantles work well with bow, what decorations are good to slot into your mantles, etc. and maybe some discussion about whether status coatings decos are ever worth while (personally I like to run status coating decos on my mantles for a bit of added utility). Anyway, great content as always. Keep up the good work!
Evasion/Impact if you want synergize, the other option is Glider/Any Element Resist mantle for free deco slots with 100% uptime
Disagree entirely on dragon pierce. That extra part break power is too useful for the more difficult part breaks and if you are using arc shot properly, you will very easily be able to create space for you to use it well.
I've just gotten tired of using Lance and Hunting Horn and thought about trying Bow.
And then you make this video.
Perfection
Try hammer
I find moving between bow and lance to be pretty easy, because both have the mindset of reacting to the monster and countering with damage. If you're okay with dropping a few points of damage, I love running evade window for comfort. Makes it way easier to dodge through roars and attacks.
Thank you, i just returned to world after years of not playing and i decided to try bow this time, your guide is very helpful.
Absolutely solid guide. You are the main reason I got better with the gun weapons. I havent picked up bow in a long time might time to get better with it
Finally someone who makes a good guide for bow, there's guides out there saying dragonpiercer is a good move, i mean use it for fun sure, but it's like kicking your dps in the nuts
Just got into MHW and the Bow, and this is very helpful! Can't wait to style on these monsters with my fav weapon >:)
So how is it?
Thanks for this video mate, exactly what i was looking for since i am looking to get into bows. Well explained, all areas touched (basics, combos, rotations, sets), nice background music... new subscriber straight away!
I have to thank you for making a guide that finally also tells you the PC Keybinds aswell as console.
Normally, yeah it's not great but I actually discovered that you could casually slide into a 1000 dragons, after standard combo rounds of arrows it doesn't have to be as stiff as it's meant to feel. it takes good muscle memory but you can definitely incorporate it in a combo after a monster is down.
I do the same. Was surprised when he suggested not to use it. It packs a huge punch and should be used whenever the opportunity arises.
Thats what i do i sneak in during an opening
same i made a 1k dragons (almost exclusive) build and yeah muscle memory plays a big key you're right. nothing better than knocking bazel completely backwards with one to the face
I personally like using different weapons for different monsters but my main pre-Iceborne was always bow. I recently got tired of fighting Barioth guild palace ticket event with the sets I already had so I made a pre-Silver Rath bow set. Using what I had available I managed to make a two-piece velkhana set for crit element and made the glavenus bow. It really felt good to get back into the flow and it was easily the least frustrating weapon to fight him with in my opinion lol
This video must be blessed or sth cuz i just got the mighty bow jewel today after watching it last night
Lovely as usual! Short and straight to the point, great video Phem!
Before I even finished watching this I have to appreciate it a lot!
What I did not know stamina reduction caps at 50%.. so much waste in my builds 🤦🏻♂️
THANK YOU!
Hadi Al-Saleh lol
Yea. Con 2 and Felyne BB or Con 1 + Dash J + Felyne BB = Cap
The Gaming Seshion that’s not true by the way
All of combinations doesn’t reach cap
@@TerraRuns Sorry, but the first combo reaches 45% where the second combo (Con 1 - 10%, DJ - 15%, FBB - 25%) reaches 50% exactly. If you added anything to the first combo you're over cap which really isn't worth the investment.
Ahh I didn't know that too. Thanks for explaining again as comment.
Can you link your pc control scheme?mine feels really awkward compared to how my melee builds work. The clutch claw kind of messed up a lot for my controls.
I'll tell you all a secret. Bow is so strong that, believe it or not, you can actually play it without a mighty bow gem, and still crush all monsters really fast. (You should still have mighty bow if possible though).
Dash dancing bows are some hella damage. If you have the team damage ui mods for pc and you play the bow right, you'll see that it's easy to keep up with or even do more than big boy damage weapons like greatsword or hammer. People don't believe it till you show them the numbers
Bow is the best dps weapon after scope shotgun.
you've done so much man. thanks for this and keep them vids coming. helps a lot!
Is there a recommended build if you are under master rank 70 and can't get silver rath? Or is it more of a "get to MR 70" kinda thing?
wondering the same thing lol.
I honestly just ran Namielle set up to whatever requirement to get a good bow build. I do still run Nam mix set because sometimes I'm too lazy to fiddle around constitution and stamina surge. Afterwards I did build a silver rath set but not nearly as optimal as this video but I still enjoy the hunt nonetheless.
Funny how i started building bow sets after finally getting the silver rath armour and today your video comes up
Magnificent guide, and I would like to to see that "to sum up" at the end in more videos of TH-cam XD so good
Great guide, I would just add that to do a quick shot again you must wait a brief moment, otherwise it forces an arc shot or power shot.
Still digging for that mighty bow Deco. Till then im a 3 charge wonder.
Just farm in guiding lands for fuel and after a few hours of doing that efficiently you should get at least 100 silver tickets on the steam. If you trade them into the melder you should definitely get all bows deco you need.
@@adonosa1 mhmm, now to get to the Guiding lands. I farmed about 700 Decos from Greater Jargas and Icebloom from the event quests. I gave up cause i figured Mighty Bow is just a damn Unicorn.
@@Adeus555 Yes..i bought iceborne 2 weeks ago, and did all the old events..lavasioth..jaggras. and didn't got any deco I needed so I did the story quest till I reached Guiding Lands and in 1 hour of farming fuel (about 66 silver tickets) I get at least 2 mighty, 2 spreads, 3 normal shots..crits..is the best way no doubt. Do that and tell me later! GL
@@adonosa1 well i finally made it to guiding lands, cashed in 71 silver tickets and still no mighty bow mod. Got a bunch of critical boosts, trueshots, attack jewels and everything else i need though. The steam is great. Farm for an 20 mins get about 30 tickets. Takes longer to spend em then make em. not worried about it anymore even if rng has been ridiculous up to this point. Just wanna switch back to bow from LBG.
@@Adeus555 glad to read that !its just matter of short time! Bests of luck!
Well, after watching these video I’m going to make myself a raw bow set, because I’m too lazy to farm Safi for all those elemental bows xd. Good video though. Keep them coming.
Its easier to farm safi, than farm for the other bows, also if you want a raw bow go for the blast bow of safi, its good.
This is helping me with my fatalis bow. I used to just spam circle while dodging. I'm having some timing issues where I take too much time to power shot so it becomes a quick shot again
Look, I didn't come back to this game after a year just to feel like a scrub haha this was an excellent guide and cannot wait to put all this into practice and actually rotation
Every time I start these videos(because I want to learn) I realize how much I actually don’t. I hate “rotations” and number checks or “maximum dps”. Just removes all the fun out of playing when people say stuff like “don’t use this, don’t use that” and makes it like a job. But like I said I’d like to be able to get some good damage and skills without having to use what’s “meta” and playing only what’s approved by the board lol.
You can.. several people stated they never got a mighty bow jewel and still destroy. But yes Bow does require several skills to make managing the weapon easier. At least slot in Stam surge and constitution whenever you can. It just makes the weapon not feel so terrible.
Keep up the good work, you made me love bows. Thank you and be safe out there.
3000 hours never got a single mighty bow gem
I am pretty much new to this game (play a bit when it first came out, dropped it cause I didn’t like it, but a friend got me to try it again and I’m really enjoying it).
And I haven’t finished the story yet and I don’t understand most of what your saying. All I do understand is that what I have been using and like to use a lot is bad. Well that’s helpful. Lol
Leave my poor dragon piercer alone!XD
I can't seem to dodge right with a bow. My guy pulls out an arrow then does a bunny hop rather than actually roll. Idk what I'm doing wrong. Maybe I suck
Grimmm 258 it happens to me also sometimes but most of the times it works
It's because you hold the aim button.
To do a regular roll just don't aim before dodging 👍
I know you have done a mouse and keyboard guide on pc, can you do a update keys binds on iceborn.
I wish you would go over coatings and when and why to use coatings, when to use close range or normal etc. Im very new to bow and am so overwhelmed with learning all the different terms your using for bow... I think rapid means just a regular shot? but your video has helped a TON! can't thank you enough for making a guide this amazing. I'd love if you'd follow it up with a videio going over coatings for complete and utter noobs like me.
I know you posted this 3 weeks ago but in case you're still confused...
You want to use power coatings pretty much as much as you can. They're just a straight up damage increase. Sure you only carry 50 but you can bring ingredients to craft more in the field. If you do want to be more stingy with them I guess you could save them for downs or something but most of the time that isn't really necessary.
Close range coatings are pretty much for when you either run out of power coatings or are using a bow that doesn't support them. The damage boost isn't as good as power coatings and they have the additional condition of making your damage drop off quickly if you're not near the enemy, but you want to be close for optimal spread/powershot damage anyway so the latter isn't as big of a deal as it sounds. Plus close range coatings are infinite and every bow can use them.
Blast coatings are pretty useless. Don't bother.
Poison can be useful for enemies weak to poison, though regular bow damage is so high I wouldn't use that that much in generall. It typically takes more hits from a bow than a bowgun to apply a status and you're doing significantly reduced damage with status coatings on. But for something that takes extra poison damage like Shara or Safi I could see it being useful.
Paralysis and sleep can be really useful for certain CC strategies but also don't see that much use in general. But there was stuff like P1ing KT back in HR where CC bow in area 4 was *the* go-to strategy. That required support from the whole team though. In a solo hunt the 'problem' is again that bow does so much damage that most of the time you're better off just attacking the monster normally (and you can still get staggers and trips that way...).
I have a question (newbie here) what do you mean when at 9:51 and onward, when you talk about "skill priority" and the top one being element? Do you mean the element on our bows? Like how some bows have ice, water, and or fire dmg? Or is this section referring to something else. I bought the game ages ago when it was on sale, but only now just got it when it was on sale. I appreciate being informed of the proper rotation/things to keep in mind to keep DPS high.
Hello! Incase you haven't figured out, what he means is the priority of skills to add to your set via armor skills or decoration slots. So prioritize certain skills because the synergies are better than other skills.
On a 5 piece Safi armor set, should you stop at level 1 Coalescence? Or go ahead and max it out at level 3? Trying to figure what’s optimal or worth it...
I think I didn't understand how to do a claw attack. Do I need an especific item? Or the bow can do that?
I believethats the best and Most reflected Guide Out there. Im tryibg to make IT Work AS i Just started. Wouldve liked it If you went over a Low geared Rotation or some quick Tips but im getting there
Thanks for this! I used tobi previously, but switched to zinogre when I unlocked him cause it looks so much better 😅
>Dragon piercer. Pretend it don't exist
It also deals slash damage and allows bows to cut off tails.
Thanks. I’ve now learned that the bow isn’t for me. I don’t particularly enjoy using it and only did so because fighting obnoxiously airborne monsters like Rathalos and Legiana with melee weapons is even less fun than using the bow. And now that I know my use of the bow is remarkably inefficient (much less decent), I’m better off learning another weapon entirely.
I gotta rely on doing rocket science in my daily life, I don’t need it seeping into the time I spend playing Monster Hunter also. Thanks for the video.
Remember that this is about being as optimal as possible, you very much can play the game however you want and fire as many dragon piercers as you want.
Personally mhw isn't a game that I want to bother optimising too much, so you can keep this as useful knowledge and go back to playing how you want
Pierre Alexander I hear you, but it’s not easy when you’re compelled to DO better once you know better.
Don't let his clear distaste for non-meta, unoptimized builds discourage you from playing how you want. I love playing bow, and I spam my arc shot on downed monsters because I know that my dodge game isn't great so I'll take any chance I can get to slow down a monster to allow me to damage to them.
Play how you want, as long as you aren't carting constantly no one will hate you.
So to take notes here, the easyest and most effective Way of playing Bow is hold on L2, use R2, Sidedash, use Circle, Sidedash, repeat?
Sunaki1000 I think it’s r2, circle, slide, r2, circle, slide, repeat
@@kobeagu8314 Ok, thnx
Im new in mhw. Playes LS and LBG but i think bow is very good. There no need of tier s deco. Ty for this IN YOUR FACE guide.
What do you think is more important to slot in, granted you have the available decoration slots: Normal Up or Spread Up?
For someone who still uses the old combo of Q R R R P, would I benefit more from Normal Up since I'm using rapids more? Or would it still be more beneficial to run Spread Up to increase the DPS spike?
Could add the trick where if you stop in between shots, you can let your stamina regen a bit and not keep emptying your stamina. Some/most speed runners use it
13:10 how does that setup have 80% affinity, I can barley reach 50%
Base 5% + Agitator ( 5% when active ) + WE ( 30% ) + max crit.eye ( 40% ) = 80%
The leftovers are handled by wether you attack the wounded parts for WE or not ( Extra 20% )
On k+m you can also just press C (which is I think the default) to fire both Thousand Dragons & Dragon Piercer.
Thank god the mighty bow deco became meldable because I’ve played MHW and Iceborne for 500 hours without the deco ever dropping.
Love it how you have to farm the base game for deco's like the bow charge.
Long gone are days of constantly searching monster weaknesses on the net. When I played my first monster hunter I thought elements would work like pokemon
may i know which layered armor you are using in the video? :)
Are you gonna do an updated version since consoles and pc are in sync ?
Good Day sir. can yun post your PC controls for Range Weapon? Thanks
Phemeto something I have always wondered about but never asked before. How do you have the camera turning when you dash around the monster or the pole. The monster just keeps going offscreen and I have to either press L1 to refocus or manually turn the camera. Overall I find 5th gen bow clunky because of this in comparison to previous games but that's just me and it's a shame because I want to use these sweet Safi bows I awakened. I spend more time getting the camera on the monster than I should. I'm on Xbox btw.
Also on a side note but smaller monsters like Viper Kadachi I find highly annoying to use bow on. Decided to try bow on it for the current crown quest that's up and that was a mistake. :D
Pretty sure you can click your analog stick to snap to the monster
@@sadude88 That's not what I'm talking about and that doesn't snap to the monster it just targets them and then you use L1. But as I said that's not what I'm talking about. As you can see in this video when Phemeto shoots a monster and dashes around it the camera moves along with him. That doesn't happen with me unless he's very good at clawing and moving the camera at the same time which I can't do.
I absolutely love the skill mushroomancer for bow, keeps the resources cheap, abuse the devil blight and dash juices. Also poping a mandragora after getting hit is awesome
I used Mushroomancer all the time in base game but honestly between how easy it is to meld for dash juice now and radial crafting max potions its really not worth it. Materials are no longer an issue with so many farm slots and Steamworks pretty much take care of your potion needs.
It’s meta build only for fire bow. There is no needed amount of jewel sockets for another elements even with beta armor version
The arc-shot balls, does anyone else remember playing Mario Kart 64 on the Donkey Kong jungle map and having those spiked balls hit you if you stayed too far off course? 😆
yes,finally ,i hoped for this for a few months
Best guide I found for a bow
I mostly struggle with arc shot going off instead of a power shot at the end of a chain. I really cant figure this out.
Arc shot happens when you're still charging an arrow and press circle (or B Xbox). After you release a charged arrow, hit circle or B. The charge of the arrow determines the number of arrows and power. It uses less stamina to power shot after a charged shot. Hope that helped.
Dont spam the button, just press it once after a dash/chain. if you accidentally press it twice the arc comes out. Go to training mode to practice not button mashing but learning the actual button combo's and timing.
PSA: let allies get out of your way when shooting! Otherwise HBG users like me will 100% resent you and send you flying with a wyvernblast simply out of rage at your inconsiderate shooting.
PSA: try to fit flinch free in every build you bring to multiplayer
@@Kriss_941 I have been lately, especially bc them dang longswords 😂😂
@@juicyktheneighborhoodballe9198 yo easy with the ls brothers and tell that to those damn dual users xD
@@MrLocoSuave No kidding 😂😂😂
coop is easy baby mode lol, maybe try getting gud
What a great video ,really good for HUGE bow n00bs like me .I learnt a lot thanks .Thumbs up and earned a sub.cheers.
Man, this is a great video. Relevant, goes over everything, and concisely explains what to look for without beating you over the head with picking up what's meta. Great work.
i was thinking about you yesterday and your old bow guide. "id be great if he could put up an updated version"..
lmao, thanks so much.
So the Power Coating does not increase elemental damage, only raw damage? Or raw damage also adds to elemental?
Thanks for the video it help me to understand how bow work now
Hey. Is there no build including the fatalis armor? Every vid i watched so far recommended safi bows and silver rath armor etc.
Cheers
Go watch Tidus69 videos, he has a video from two months ago for the best bow builds, the builds include fatalis armor
Do you use different builds for solo/speedrun and Coop/casual? Would love some advice to build for bow for coop. Im having trouble getting good skills in, and I have all the decos.
I used to cut Xeno Jivas tail with Dragonpiercer back in the day. Don't underestimate the partbreak values on that. Also doing a wake-up hit with Dragon Piercer or Thousand Dragons is fine.
Another thing worth noting that Dash Juice also gives you roughly level 2 or 3 Marathon Runner from my testing which can help conserve some of your precious stamina when disengaging/repositioning.
I hate saying this but do you have any recommendations on farming for a mighty bow deco? I’ve tried everything I can think of and still can’t get one. Is it even worth playing now without it?
honestly it took me about 100 hours of just farming the lavasioth quest and getting warped/worn feystones to get it. I would say that or using silver tickets from steamworks is your best bet. Good luck to you
😭 man I’ll try... again! Hah, I just have the worst lucky with RNG. I didn’t get a wyvern gem in base game until I was well over 600 hours in.
@@unamericano best of luck to you! It can be very aggravating
Great video! So much knowledge dropped. Thank you.
Question: have you ever thought if velkana’s crit skill stacks with silver los true crit element? Or hopefully tested it?
Can confirm Crit Ele/True Crit Ele do not stack. TCE just takes priority.
It is possible to stack Element Acceleration with TCE with Safi weapons, but Element Acceleration gives you less element than an Element Up V anyway so there's really no point.
Bynoe, thank you for your answer, I appreciate it very much!
So I'm guessing a defender bow can't use specific ammo. Because my bow the ammo is maxed but has a x on them.
I wish all MH guides were as good as this one
one question tho... as far as water vs ice goes, are there any monsters where the water shot beats the legiana bow by any significant margin? most monsters weak to water are also weak to ice, and since the legiana bow is so much stronger than the water bow in terms of stats is there really any reason to invest in a water build?
What do you think about 2p velkhana, 3p safi armor? I use this for basically all my dual blades and think it would be great for bow too