SHE WANTS A SUGAR DADDY, NOT A BOYFRIEND😳👀...| Reacting to "Blue Therapy" Part 2 (Deborah & Jamel)
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- Reacting to "Blue Therapy" Part 2 (Deborah and Jamel)!
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With the brows too!!! 100% slayed!!
Waiting on the video lol
purrrr. she always looks so good
Honestly its really sounding like Deborah should be with Paul, because they both equate love to money and materialistic things.
can you imagine? lmaooo 🤭🤯🤯
I was looking for this comment
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I said this after watching the first episode lol! 🤦🏽♀️😂
Paul is broke
She needs to date a man of a higher tax bracket if that’s how she feel. He can’t fulfill her standard so she needs to move on
i feel like even if he was making more money, it’s her attitude towards what she wants. she is just so childish
@@daijapeters I completely agree because if she were mature she would realize that her needs aren’t being met and would leave. She need to understand that if something is explained multiple times and it’s not to her standard she needs to leave. I mean in the last episode she said that they barely talk anyway🤷🏿♀️
@@daijapeters i agree
@She Dhakan it is childish? She’s a GIRLFRIEND…who is she to demand the world from him yet give him nothing and belittle him in the process??? What man feels loved and cherished from that? I understand she has a different cultural background but she’s purposely staying and trying to twist his arm into changing him to her closed off world view… what she needs is a man of her own culture period and to leave other men alone so they don’t have to deal with the headache she brings…
She can't date a man in a high tax bracket because she's not in that tax bracket. She struggled to explain what she brang to the table that's very telling.... no high value man Is going to want that.
To me it's looking like Paul and Jamel needs to switch girls 😭😭
Wordd 😭😭
I thought that to till the later episodes. Jamel isn’t as innocent as you think
@@swag9659 yea everyone is saying that. They are also saying that we gon be team Deborah. But that will never happen for me because of her mentality. I will just be team breakup.
Damn so everyone just toxic I can't be a therapist because the first few bad things I'm asking if they considered breaking up😭
@@zaria0_0 lmaoooo that part. Make it easy “love em or leave em” edition. 🤣☠️
Isimeme’s beauty is just so radiant. Josh and Isi make a gorgeous couple, inside and out 🥰
Awww i love that you called her by her full name ❤️
@@kjeanette100 Girl YOURE so beautiful!!!!🥺
@@Theylovejuliaa awww 🥺 you are too love!!!
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Deborah: this is my first relationship
15 minutes later...
Jamel: since this is you first relationship
Deborah: HOW DARE YOU TELL EVERYBODY THIS IS MY FIRST RELATIONSHIP THEY DON’T NEED TO KNOW THAT
Lmaooooooooooo 😭😭
I think she was upset as the way he said it came across and had underlying tone like “it’s your first relationship so you don’t know how it works/how to be in one.”
Okay?!? I thought I was the one who caught that. Like whaaaat, sis? He should have clapped back.
I think social media is leading SOME women and men to value that constant designer, constant trip lifestyle Young men bragging about using that to get women and women bragging about getting that. But realistically most people are not in the bracket to even afford that so it's just social imo
Exactly she wants those thing from the wrong person. She needs to get with someone who can give her those things
Kinda ageist of them and Jamal to say she's like this because she's younger, when in reality she's like this because that's the standard that was set for her. It has nothing to do with her age, she's just spoiled.
@@blueismylove3128 exactly, it’s not about being young or childish it’s her standard
@@blueismylove3128 she’s not even spoiled in a bad way her dad just showered her with gifts and that all she’s knows a man to be. I don’t see anything wrong with that
She def spoiled in a bad way. Not once did she utter what she had to do for herself. Entitlement isn't ever good. The world owes you nothing.
Hear me out, Isi and Josh. What about a QualiTEA time package. A tea blend and a weekly couple devotional for Sunday. What do yall think?
It would actually be so cute to drink their tea with them while watching their videos
Idk I feel like they’re just not compatible. I don’t feel like she has high standards, just different standards. She didn’t have to bring anything to the table with her dad, so why would she start now? There are plenty of women who do nothing for a living and is well taken care of. She just needs to find a man more like her dad. 🤷🏾♀️
This!! Some ppl complain about women needing to be treated better and should experience a life of luxury but now we see one that has been and expects that going forward, ppl saying she wrong and her standards are too high 🥴🙄.
Then women like her needs to date their dad . This is not a healthy quality that will carry your relationship!
@@ruthdezius9843 ewww just ewwww.
Or she can start learning to be self sufficient... life will humble you unexpectedly, its better to be prepared than unprepared.
@TylaChad - Most men who can afford to provide how she wants, don't want a lazy woman who does nothing to make their life easier. They will also be as busy or more, than the man she's currently with. She's not living in the real world. Her expectations are nonsense.
this women is extremely childish and there are no excuses for what she’s doing and what she is saying. she needs to smartin up and he needs to pack up and get away from her
exactly
I don't think she is childish.
Her behavior has nothing to do with being a child, I'm pretty sure some children wont even think like her.
She however, has not reach a state of a relationship maturity mindset.
I'm confused as to what he expected because that's how he got her. With drip and gifts so he knew what type of girl she was.
he cheated on her and bur acted like she was crazy so I am pretty sure he is the one who is lying
@@OpulentMindCrafts don't spoil itttttt
Denorah was on a podcast called 90s baby show (its on youtube and spotify) and it gives more insight into her mentality and why she expects certain things. Like she grew up in a 6 bedroom house and all her sisters' husbands and her father do what she expects of Jamel HOWEVER they're all in a higher tax bracket and married so take that as you will
Exactly you're a girlfriend.
If he grew up in a 6 bedroom house why can’t she buy her shit herself. Embarassing
@@blkbarbie2671 so true
Now this makes sense! To say she wants a sugar daddy because she expects nice things is a bit much. I agree with her, if a man isn't prepared to provide and continuously court a woman he should be single.
@@briananoel144 nope it shouldn’t take money to “court” any woman of quality. what she’s asking for is excessive and privileged and she’s needs to come down to reality and see that the average people can’t provide what she’s asking for and maybe try dating a celeb or sum cuz
it sounds like she was raised extremely traditional, “women’s money is hers, mans money is theirs”
I think the issue here is that people are not taking into consideration Deborah’s context. She comes from a Nigerian family, and most women and men are raised with the expectation of such gender roles. Her behaviour may be abnormal if you’re looking at her through a Western/non-Nigerian lens. I think the issue with them is that they are incompatible. Her expectations and values were made known and if he doesn’t have the same values, he should leave. Simple as, really. There are men that want to provide for and spoil their partners. Deborah should date one rather than stay with Jamel.
She should leave too then not just him 🤷🏾♀️ she needs to stop trying to change him to fit her narrative and stop belittling him for not fitting into her small world view So both of them should walk away
People keep mentioning gender roles based on her cultural background. In that case she should have the ability to cook, clean, sew, run errands, etc. Essentially be a homemaker while he works to provide a luxury lifestyle for her. She wants her own while also having his too. You can’t have it both ways. If she wants money and “quality time” which sounds like trips and dinners. She can find a man to appease that. They both can find more suitable partners sounds like.
@@evette2946 this!! i agree wholeheartedly. she was asked what she brought to the table and didn’t have a clear answer. she expects so much from him but she isn’t providing anything in return. you’re right, if she believes the gender norms and expects that from him she should also be conforming to her gender role as well. all i’m seeing is her asking for things she doesn’t deserve. she wants these gifts as a way of being appreciated but she’s not doing anything that deserves appreciation in my opinion.
I couldn't have said it better myself. This comment was so accurate.
I can understand that. But, genuine question is the emasculation of him for not meeting her luxury demands cultural as well? she’s not asking for him to provide stability in the traditional gender role sense; he’s providing that. She wants LUXURY & if she cares about him at all she should be more realistic about what he’s capable of. Instead of setting this absurd luxury bar for him to meet then emasculating him along the way for not reaching it. Not to mention, it’s a bar she CANT reach on her own.
Le3ts not put Chioma and Deborah in the same box though. In Chioma's case they were basically living as husband and wife. They both worked, she cooked, took care of his siblings kids and they split the bills. That's a far cry from Deborah and Jameel lol
Jamel needs to find himself a woman, cause Deborah is a girl. If your woman doesn't see and support your goals and plans for the future then she is not a woman, she should get herself a blesser and leave this poor man to build himself
She supports jamel but he's shady and from all the episodes, it shows that she had reason to feel shady when it comes to his work.
@@dess234 I disagree cause if someone's telling u they tryna buy a house and u want them to constantly buy you gucci how many gucci bags is a deposit for a house? Ask urself that question. She's an enemy of progress
@@christy7516 that has nothing to do with my comment lol.
@@christy7516 he knows the girls he’s getting with. if he’s trying to build himself, he shouldn’t be with a girl like that who wants gifts 24/7. she said she let him know her standard and he agreed to it, did he not? If he’s tired of it, he can leave.
@@dess234 exactly he knew who he was getting involved with from the beginning.
She's looking for someone to take care of her like her fathet did but with that said she has her priorities out of order bcuz she's still immature nd materialistic. He's more mature nd ready to prepare nd plan for his future life nd family. Whereas, she's still thinking like a lil girl (daddy's princess) when she's a grown as woman nd he's ready for his queen (a wife). I don't knock a woman who wants her man to take care of her but this man obviously wants a future with her nd she's not ready for such a commit; if so she should respect nd appreciate what he's trying to do.
She is very young and so is he. She is giving sugar baby vibes and he is trying to establish himself. What she is expecting is something you get from a man who is well into his 40s and is well off. Jamal is a regular guy who is barely into his 30s. Sis is bugging…there is nothing wrong with her having those expectations but this is her first relationship and she needs to find that class of man if she can get one.
no no I think there is sum wrong with expectations especially when you get with someone and just expect it and bash him as a man and come for his masculinity bc he can’t buy u gucci??????? nah that’s baffling babes. i mean yea to each there own every one is entitled to want what they want but her standards are fucking ridiculous
He's looking for a wife, she only wants a boyfriend smh
At least it seems. Yall said it at the end though, she wants him to take care of husband duties.
@@cimoneaustin648 I definitely agree with you they’re definitely on two different paths of life and I feel like they didn’t make that clear for each other. I have no understanding on why people truly want to live the “flex lifestyle” but depending on how you were raised and the ideas that make determine how you want to live and how you want to be treated. I was never raised that even though my dad spoiled me from time to time I still appreciate what I have already because that’s just the way I am.
Yeeeah
Well it IS her first one so I think that's mainly what it is.
@@TheodoreBakes yea I agree
I think Deborah is slightly materialistic but I think for the kind of life she’s lived I understand. I have been around girls like her and it’s usually not that much of a problem cause they tend to pair up with men willing to provide the lifestyle they want. They may just be incompatible. But on the issue of depending on men. In some communities (I’m African so I’m speaking from what I’ve seen) you find that they don’t mind sticking to traditional gender roles but there’s also an interesting conversation surrounding money and dating. Often you find that girls are advised to go for men who are more willing to spend for them cause I’ve been told if you meet a man and he has an issue with money regarding you that rarely changes after marriage. What she’s doing is a little bit of a stretch though cause I don’t feel like she should be demanding he support her financially at this point so I do agree with Isi about that. Additionally I feel she’s almost emasculating him when he said he should do things “as a man” and I just feel that’s not a productive conversation
exactly. If she's used to being spoiled by her father or being used to get gifts, she's keeping up that standard. I don't see an issue with her wanting to have gifts (not as frequently to), but at least gifts here and there. He knew what he was getting into.
@@dess234 according to him she does get gifts but to go as far as telling him what gifts she expects and how often is a lot they aren't engaged she sounds unrealistic and demanding
@@christy7516 i can agree with that
She can tone down the aggression but I really think they are just incompatible. I was raised in near similar situation where my father did everything and made 6 figures but i take pride in my independence. She just wants what her mother has and i dont think that is the same as the young ladies her age wanting a sugar daddy. That is her definition of true love from a man. Her expectations may be able to be met but not by him for sure. That also does not mean he isnt a great guy.
Great insight...quite thought provoking. Thank you
The thing a lot of people are missing is that, that is Deborah’s normal. Why would she want to change? Especially when she made her intentions clear from the get go. Why’d he go after a babe with her wants then switch up half way? Also its her first relationship after being treated well by her parents, she’s still a little bit in the clouds. Plus she’s Nigerian, its very normal to want that type of relationship. Furthermore, why would she want to invest in a house that isnt in her name when he could dump her any second. My only issue with her is her attitude and how she puts her points across.
exactly i couldn't have said it better.
Yep!! I didn't see anything wrong with her wants, they were realistic. she just needs to work on communication, and learning to walk away if she isn't getting what she wants. At this point They're just dragging it out because they're clearly on two different levels and aren't all that compatible as far as what they want in a relationship.
there’s nothing wrong with her standards. you brought up a good point. she shouldn’t have to change but i think it’s also unfair for her to expect him to change. if that’s the lifestyle she’s used to, she has to find someone who is willing and able to do that for her. i do think he messed up by trying to live up to her standards in the beginning and then abruptly stopping that. i would have an issue with that too. i think they both know this isn’t the relationship for them but they want to make it work so bad. they have two totally different visions of what life should be and it’s just not going to mesh
@@10najah yeah her expectations for him changing are a bit unrealistic. once you see that someone is set in their ways or your ambitions don't mesh, just bow out gracefully. But I can understand it being her first relationship she probably wanted to give it a genuine try and being that he is at that age where guys typically start considering settling down or taking relationships serious it's understandable that they stuck around this long trying to make it work.
That part about the house! My mom looked at me crazy when I said I want my name on the house when I’m in a relationship/married cause I’m not about to be stuck picking up pieces whether we got the house together or he did majority. If we are together til death do us part, my name NEEDS to be on that deed! People act like males names will get them everywhere & it won’t. Stop letting that passiveness continue. Start putting your name in things ladies, especially cause you know these males would love to take it all from you in a split second claiming “well it’s all in my name anyway, she has nothing w/out me” bs.
The therapist is not telling them anything they need to hear, it’s basically like an interview.
As a Liberian, there are African women like this but their’s be like this in every culture. She does follow the traditional path
I am African too and women who actually bring something to the table do want to be provided for but it's not clear what she brings except for looks.
@@christy7516 exactly. she wants him to blow all this money on her but what kind of attention and love is she giving back to him?
I do think Deborah is materialistic but if Jameel doesn't like that, then find a different woman rather than trying to get one that is clear about their demands to change, whether you agree with it or not. There are men that define being a good boyfriend as what Deborah is asking for.
I think his mentality in trying to make this his last relationship, he’s trying to conform to her needs while changing her values on her breakdealers. I agree, they need to let each other go 😭
@@rachaelmends3582 Yeah I don't agree with her standards but he doesn't HAVE to stay with her lmao.
Those men who think like that , once you have children with them they will n always do grow to feel neglected because someone who equates buying shit to love is almost always apathetic
Yeah, I don’t think they last. She is also trying to make him into something he’s not: A man with lots of money who can provide her lifestyle. She wants even MORE than he can provide. She should leave in that case too. I think they were both hoping time would change each other, they just want different things.
bro I’m sorry no she’s privileged and entitled and of course I understand that everyone is entitled to their wants and expectations but hers im sorry are ridiculous. i thought we left that whole “find a 6’0 rich man and nothing less” mentality in the early 2000’s and before. that “i only date rich boys” shit is corny fr. To come for him as a man and diminish his masculinity bc he won’t but u gucci is ridiculous, selfish, childish, and naive. and yeah everyone keeps saying she was honest about her wants from jump and he wanted to keep up so why is switching up but like of course it’s different now, like he said he saving for a house a house for both of them u can’t be spending money on stupid shit when ur doing that. doing big tingz requires big sacrifice and privileged people don’t get that and making him feel less than for grinding is fucking crazy to me.
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Also, as an “halfrican” (half Nigerian, half Black-American), I think it might bring a bit more insight to note that there are some things relationally that are a norm in terms of gender roles in African culture (married or not). For some, hearing Deborah say that she wants to be “looked after” in her relationship is not that big of a deal.
Yes. My Nigerian parents both taught me growing up that the man should always be the provider and if a man isn’t showing you that he is the provider he’s not husband material. It’s the norm among Nigerians. But it’s up to everyone individually to set their own relationship standards.
Exactly those gender roles are heavily cemented so to me it’s not anything I haven’t heard before
Exactly. It might sound strange to some but my parents would be worried and find it questionable if I married a man who couldn’t look after me.
So what does it mean to “look after” the wife for Africans? To me it sounds like he’s doing a good job providing her what she needs. It’s just the extra things he can’t seem to get right now, and even so he’s still young and after he gets the house he could probably provide those things. To me, she just seems impatient.
Why is she expecting him to solely provide if she has her own as well. Wouldn’t traditional be more so her being a homemaker so she can have a luxurious lifestyle in return?
I am Deborah when it comes to being spoiled. But, I am also understanding. Also, Deborah needs to date richer men. You can’t berate a man to spoil you and he’s not in the tax bracket. But, still Deborah had every right!!! It’s her standards and she shouldn’t lower it, especially if she has been raised that way & saw her mother & sister been treated as such. No one should knock her, but she should also be more understanding. Date richer men, don’t push men into a corner when they can provide that but not on your every command.
I mean it’s not about her having the right it’s about how she’s treating another person in her relationship with her backwards ideology. It’s just not attractive behaviour or mindset to be dependent on a man to fulfil your every need and unlock your happiness. She better get a millionaire husband soon or she’ll be a very unhappy girl in life
In my last relationship I told him I love thoughtful gifts and that price and name brand did not matter to me because personally if I can’t afford to buy it for myself what business do I have asking you to buy it. For my birthday he ASKED me what I wanted and I TOLD him an air fryer or a tv stand. Why did this man get me a MK purse and some Tory Burch sandals and his reasoning was he figured i was lying because all girls like designer. Although they’re so pretty I was so annoyed and didn’t appreciate the gifts because what was the point of me telling you what I wanted and getting excited for them just for you to ignore me? I thought I was being ungrateful but no I’m not. I felt like that had to do with flex culture.
Wait so he didn’t get what you asked for?😩😩I can’t lie, I love designer....but sir I gave you a list😩😂
That's disrespectful. Why ask, if you're not going to listen? Not only that, but you get something WAY more expensive than what I asked for. Come on now.
Sell the bag and sandals and get that air fryer girl! 😂
Besides the point but I’m glad you kept your purse and shoes sis 😂
This lady got serious problems. First of all you’re a gf not a wife. Paying your bills and expecting him to provide for you is wifey energy, not GF. She just want to use him to buy her stuff so she can flex on IG cuz that’s what she see other women doing. She doing too much. She don’t want to put in anything but expect EVERYTHING
@She Dhakan he should have a provider mindset, which it sounds like he do. He’s not required to provide for her. And “providing” gifts and trips is not something she should be expecting him to do.
@She Dhakan did you even watch the video , the man said he wants to save for a house n this follower is talkin about him buying her a stupid gucci bag n being like someone else who spends their money on bullshit , shes a gold digger n he needs to run away , he IS a provider but she is a user
@She Dhakan he’s only 27 he not balling like that. He’s not going to be able to sustain that lifestyle for too long even if that’s how he came in the relationship. He’s still trying to establish himself and she’s putting way too much pressure on him by expecting him to finance her lavish lifestyle. They not equally yoked
She doesn’t have serious issues lol. She comes from a culture where men provide everything. Nigerian men love to spend on women so maybe that’s what she’s used to. There’s nothing wrong with her having those expectations but she should just be with a man that has the same mindset.
@@mango7966 my point exactly. Be with someone who’s ok with providing for you. Don’t expect him to do this especially if that wasn’t communicated. Buy your own stuff, and let him see u can do for yourself. That’s going to make him want to do for you 10x more
Okay Deborah, Jamel is NOT your father. He is his own person….just go back to your daddy bc you sure do sound like a child rn 🙄 whew she pisses me off lol
But that’s how she grew up n seeing how her dad treated her with spoiling her n allat she expects that in a man so yea she gotta develop a more mature mindset when it comes to relationships but I wouldn’t put all the blame on her. That’s kind of normal when it comes to African families I have friends that know ppl the same way
@@gyselleb.7708 I hear you, but she’s an adult. She should know better. She’s expecting extravagant gifts from a man that’s trying to save HIS money to better the both of them. While she just sits back? It’s so twisted. There’s no compassion and that makes me sad
Social media is killing a lot of people’s self- esteem. People care too much about the opinions of people they don’t even know.
I want to have gifts and go on trips ..trust me i wouldn't post one picture during me time or time with my bf
People do this in public spaces as well especially at workplaces. I’ve seen women walk in with expensive bags and shoes and brag about how they get gifts etc. These same women who brag are jealous and hateful and if your man looks better than their man….watch out. Those are vile disgusting ppl.
she's just spoiled and since it's her first relationship her expections are solely based on her parent's relationship (usually parents try to only show the good side to their kids) and on what her friends tell her (they might also just boast about how great their boyfriends are without sharing the hard parts). That's why her expectations are unrealistic.
Unless the dad is the sole heir to a hefty fortune, I wouldn't doubt he took the mom on some less expensive but still thoughtful and fun dates in their youth.
Nah she just has a standard
So true
It's not unrealistic though... There are guys willing to do that for her
@@luxprincess9420 so where are they lol most people who act like this have never even been with a man that provides that's why they talk anyhow 😂
it's ironic how she keeps calling him childish as she constantly preaches her childish ideas. She said "as females .." Nah babe don't bring us into this
as an only child with a single mother growing up myself, the “ima get it myself” mentality that Isi said is 100% facts
True, I am so glad she mentioned that!
I see both sides. Deb is definitely feeding into the toxic gender roles of thinking men have to buy you everything. I was raised to, yeah you want your man to buy you gifts here and there, but not to ever rely on a man financially. But at the same time, if jamel knew it would've been an issue, especially after she already set that standard and let him know that's what she expects from him AND THEN keeping up that standard at the beginning, he can't necessarily be shocked or mad at how she's acting. Deb does have some growing up to do, but for the whole "what exactly do you bring to the table" thing is just something to embarrass women. If you didn't think she had any value to begin with, why are you with her?
i don’t feel like the question was asked as a way to embarrass her. i feel like in this context it was a valid question. she wants to be appreciated but what is she bringing to the table that deserves appreciation? she expects a lot from him but isn’t giving anywhere near the same. and that’s not to say she needs to blow a bag on him, but it seems like she’s not being anything but being a body in his space occasionally
@@10najah well I was saying that question in general is truly inappropriate to begin with, I probably should’ve worded that better. But it’s just like, if you didn’t think they’d bring anything to the table, why get with that person to begin with?
@@10najah well I was saying that question in general is truly inappropriate to begin with, I probably should’ve worded that better. But it’s just like, if you didn’t think they’d bring anything to the table, why get with that person to begin with?
I don’t think there’s anything toxic about it, it’s her standard she wants someone to buy her things and she’s made it clear, if he’s not going to do that or can’t then they shouldn’t be together. There are men who can and will. She should go find them
Be with her because she’s a trophy peace and the sex is decent
Me as a 36 year old women listening to y'all thinking there's a huge difference between 27 and 24 🤭🤭🤭. I think they just have different mindsets and are probably not compatible when it comes to money.
Right I'm like they're just 3 yrs apart 😂
I’m excited to see josh flip on jemel later because rn jemels acting like he’s almost without flaw. I was on Jemels side at first too.
Edit: it’s also important to remember that she set the same idealistic standards at the beginning and he made the mistake of showing his wallet first and meeting those standards when he probably knew he couldn’t maintain that
This relationship isn't gonna last. She's out of her mind. He's not her father. Your not getting married, not to him at least. How do you expect him to get the house, invest, build if he is constantly spending unnecessary money. I love nice things, I love trips and I love to spoil whoever I'm with but I want a partner who brings common sense. He asked what do u bring to the table? She answered I have a fashion business coming... oh ok but He is the one who helped u. She is not ready for no relationship her standards stink. U need to build together so that u can travel or buy what u want whenever u want. You need to think of generational wealth for your children. What she needs to do is just date or find n Arab king or prince n become one of his 30 wives or an African prince. Today's women who are like this are not it. Social media doesn't make it any easier.
Real comment here!!
She doesn’t know it yet, but I think she would really enjoy having a sugar daddy type relationship😂 Different boats, different strokes 🛶 She just hasn’t had enough experiences to understand her tastes.
I’m Nigerian and I’m a typical daddy’s girl. My dad treats me like a princess and till today, as an adult who lives by myself and pays my own bills, my dad still spoils me. I have the expectation that my man will treat me like a princess but that does not equate to ridiculous spending and expensive gifts. It’s not about how expensive anything is it’s about the thought put into it. Deborah needs to grow up a little bit and if she likes the expensive stuff that much maybe she should buy herself that stuff. I also feel some type of way that I share a name with this girl.
Girl I almost thought you were her, coz of the name. I was gonna have a few words for you.
@@ashll2388 😂😂😂😂
It’s the influence of social media and the lack of realistic standards. Ppl think things and money will make you happy but the “aesthetic” is not what living is all about. Does that make sense. Ppl are way too worried about what the next person is doing and not realizing they’re sacrificing happiness.
Yeah and people tend to forget that what we see on social media is what people want us to see.
@@naledimanthoko1520 exactly !!
I think this being Deborah's first relationship is having a big impact on how she's approaching things. Because she's never been in a real relationship before, I don't think she understands that not relationships in real life don't look like instagram. And maybe she's subconsciously comparing her relationship with her friend's relationships because she doesn't know how relationships are supposed to work but she doesn't want to come across like she doesn't know anything. (That's why she reacted the way she did when Jamal mentioned this being her first relationship)
#sugardaddyyyyy y’all are glowing in the intro 😍😍😍
I just want to remind you guys that this is the couple that only sees each other twice a month. I kind of understand that she would feel upset if she conveyed to him that two of her biggest love languages are quality time and receiving gifts and he was on it at first going on dates with her frequently and buying her nice things and then barely spending any time with her and not buying her gifts(I just also wanted to say that the love language measures in percents, so theoretically you could have a tie for first place, but I don't know that much about her to determine that) I just wanted to share my thoughts so far, but I think both of them are valid (only 10 minutes in btw)
I'm loving this series y'all doing you guys💜💜💜💜💜💜
Isi THE HAIR!!!! IT'S GIVINGGG! it's laid and slayed to the godTS✋🏽✋🏽😫🤌🏽
I cannot wait for the final episode woo this couple is something else 😅🤣
I think that she is a rich girl, and is use to having men like her father buy her nice expensive gifts, or going out and living th we fancy lifestyle, so when she feels like they can't keep up she has a problem
Isi toned down the whole makeup jewelry vibe and looks gorgeous tonight!
its like deborah do u want a partner or another dad?💀
Chile I can’t wait for y’all to watch further and everyone‘s gonna switch to Debora’s side...... #sugardaddy
Ohh really cause I’ve seen only the two first episodes and she was annoying the hell out of me 😅.
@@naomibeautymind6226 right 😂 and I don’t wanna give too much away but episodes 5 and 6 will change your mind
I mean by the end her issues had not changed, but he definitely had more especially how he was talking in the Aftermath
Lmaoo to be honest I agree😂😂😂 Deborah toxic but chileeeeeee Jamel is TOXICCCC just wait sweetie
@@naomibeautymind6226 I'm with you! I hope young ladies are not taking her stand for what a real relationship is all about🤨
isi lookin soooo prettyyyy!! the hair the skin and lookin snatched 😍😍😍 you too josh very handsome
I literally had no idea that there are women who still think like this until I watch this episode. I thought that we were all on the independent women train. I really hate the way she thinks. But to each their own I guess!. But yeah you will be team Debrah by the end 😂😂
I hate when people say, “you knew how I was in the beginning” as if change isn’t inevitable, if you’re not adjusting you need to do some introspection and get out of fantasy land. It’s a shame when one person is nearing 30 and another still acts like the atypical 18-20 year old. Sure some guy will do what she wants, but priorities need to be set. When he has goals, he can’t invest in a bag when he values a home. If you’re not adding to the relationship, it’s bound to end or eventually poor spending will consume your idea of self. Cultural incompatibility only equals break up if it’s my way or the high way. She’s just looking for an established man, no problem, but building your own assets is key and depending on yourself because that can rock you when things come to an end !! (Not saying she doesn’t contribute but still) she’s young, she’ll learn but they just aren’t compatible.
Hmmmm no, why does she have to change her standards fir him, I mean why should she settle for less when she knows what she wants. People are saying she’s young as if there aren’t 40 year olds with the same standards
@@maplelu9514 she doesn’t have to, but If he can’t do it. He can’t right now at least. The compromise is literally on the money, and if they’re in therapy you’d think they want to save the relationship. She wants the full 360 package of consumer culture, she can’t have it right now because his ultimate gift is the house. So…I don’t see whats so bad about it. We’ll see what happens.
i’m loving this i can’t y’all for y’all to finish!! don’t doubt deborah
deborah is WILD. she never answered what she brings to the table AND refuses to take accountability or responsibility for her actions/behaviors. and to say she’s not going to address what she needs to do until after they get married??? whoooooo
That's because there is nothing she can say. If they are seeing each other twice a month, she can't even say she's bringing the sex.
I think she just needs to continue to date for a little while longer dip her toes in the water see what she likes and what she doesn't like instead of being in a serious relationship. She has time she is attractive and she seems like a smart woman. Also I want my man to treat me like his queen not his princess. He's not my father he's my man.
Their couple is complicated I truly didn't know where I stood in regards to them when I watched the second episode, but then... BUT THEN...
I know, I was stuck too !! Then the episodes kept going and damn 😬
Oohh honey just wait lol
You two should Do a US version of Blue Therapy!. EVERY couple could benefit from therapy. It’s not always a bad thing
My jaw dropped when he asked her what she brings to the table. She was silent. Bc she knows.
Rule #1 of drip: PRICE DON'T MATTER, ITS HOW IT LOOKS AND GOES TOGETHER.
ISI girllllll you that wig is everything.
I can't believe i lost the live again but i'm here uhhh I'm excited to see y'all reaction to the rest of this series! You both look amazing
Off topic but Im literally IN LOVE with Isi's outfittt
This hair Isi!!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Okay cause isi really be slayed every video 😍😍 and y’all be noticing how some times they really be matching like it’s so cute 😩
Stop i'm already laughing so much with you say Paul was a different animal a different bread LMAOO
Edit: This series are really becoming the tea time tuesday 2.0 the tea the snacks i'm loving it can this become a thing? (You reacting to wtv and giving your opinions)
YOUR FATHER IS NOT YOUR PARTNER! LOL Yes your father is your first example of love from a man, but in a relationship, it's two equal parties coming together to shower ONE ANOTHER with love, trust, communication etc. Deborah has to understand that that's not at all the same as a parent/child relationship. Also, flex culture only exists on social media and amongst celebrities. I really believe every day Black people aren't thinking about all that lol but who knows. Love yall!
I think someone spoiled that Jamel ain't ish in another video but still I can't stand this woman. Like, I want to root for her but she's so immature/entitled!!! Some of what Deborah says is fine but she drags things out to an unhealthy extreme. She needs to have a conversation with her mother and father (separately) about their courting/dating experiences because I highly doubt that her father had the spending habits/capital (that he currently has) in his twenties that she expects Jamel to have now. Especially considering how things are much more expensive now and she's demanding luxury goods/dinners on the regular. It wouldn't surprise me if the father, while still potentially taking care of the bill, had planned less financially bankrupting dates such as going to diners, taking walks in the park, going to a movie, hitting up a grocer for some flowers etc.
Thank you for this comment.. no man in their 20s affords this lifestyle unless they do illegal stuff or inherited it,
@@christy7516 It doesn't even apply only to men, a lot of people when they're young don't have the financial security/stability to regularly go out/buy gifts even if they're not particularly expensive. I've had a friend who had to talk to her boyfriend about going out less or finding cheaper dates because she couldn't afford it while trying to establish a savings goal.
@@parkerisles7256 hold on that doesn't sound right. He wasn't paying for the dates? Nooope
It’s amazing how y’all always drop right when I’m about to eat. YALL ARE SAINTS 😭💗
My Opinion on “Flex culture”It’s definitely not just a black people things but I think most people just want to keep up with what’s going on in the current no matter how silly it is or how fast its over (especially with fashion). It’s seems the more things are over priced or talked about at that time the more people want it then just for it to end sitting in the back of their closet or something because it’s wasn’t what they needed 🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️ I could go on & on
It really isn’t only a Black people thing because of capitalism a lot of people want to display wealth even if they struggling or be in close proximity to wealth
Yeah i just comment about this I'm white and portuguese and i know a lot of people some in my family that think the same way as Deborah i would really like to understand why do people that are into the flex culture make it a priority over for example paying their bills and food on the table i don't get it i really don't. Is it for the approval of other people? Does that make them that happy over financial security?
@@filipa8626 I guess for some people it’s a learning experience and others it’s more common sense & maturity
@@theroyalmacshow yeah I guess just blows my mind but I guess we all have different perspectives and priorities just got to respect it
Most girls I know who act like Deborah ain't ever even dated a rich man but everyday they be saying stuff like this lmao clearly something about u is not appealing to the men you want so that being said even a rich man wouldn't want to be spoken to that way about money
I can’t get over Josh’s eye👀😂😂😂
Honestly, her behavior has NOTHING AT ALL to do with it being her first relationship. In my first relationship I was never immature like this and I was 4 years younger than her.😬 My dad taught me to not put so much meaning in material objects because those things can be replaced and there's of copies of those things but there is no other human like you or your loved ones on the planet, so cherish each other instead of each other's bank account. Its as if she was spoiled so much and trained in that princess mentality that she isn't letting herself grow to be a queen. That "gimme gimme" mentality was not condoned in my household as child, my parents knew it would set me up for failure, conflict and constant disappointment, so I sure ain't gonna start condoning it at 26...Well, that's my viewpoint on it.
Ugh it’s everything for me, the beauty of Josh and Isi, the conversations they spark and healthiness of their relationship😍
I don't think she's about the "flex culture" I mean she did say that the way her father treated her is why she's the way she is now🤷🏾♀️ Those are her expectations of what man should do because that's what she saw when she was younger. But I do agree that they are on two different paths or mindsets.
I’m with Isi, I’m an old soul 100%, in my early 20’s & I may not understand the materialistic love language; but she is asking a LOT especially for a 1yr relationship and what J says he’s trying to accomplish. For me it’s in the actions for me that takes the cake over any type of gift.
That's smart to use TH-cam premium especially as a TH-camr just because you could probably write your subscription off on your taxes. Since, technically, you are using it for business purposes.
That gym is paying off Isi! You look amazing and your hair is laid?! You’re giving what needs to be gave, perioddddd. 💯
My dad spoiled me too BUT he also taught me how to get things on my own and once I was an adult was only there when I needed him like last resort stuff. She is an extreme form of spoiled brat, looking at the glitz and glam of instagram. Sis needs to find a rapper.
Yes! Please keep on churning these out 😭 Don’t forget the recaps, I believe there are 3 episodes of it.
I'm honestly happy for you asking what people think about the flex culture and why is that cause i think the same way you do and i don't get it and would like to understand it even if i don't live my life like that especially cause i'm 21 (white this is not just a black culture thing at least where i live (Portugal)) i see close people(some family members even) buying stuff just to show off to others hell sometimes having trouble paying their house bills, or food on the table because of those expensive things but in my opinion not important stuff like a way expensive car,clothes, eating in restaurants considering their life style (just like Deborah) and i don't get it how you gonna put essential needs like food and a roof bellow on that priority list it blows my mind it really does i get it people are raised different i'm not trying to judge just understand.
I can definitely say that flex culture has affected my relationship. We're both young but at completely different points in our lives. He likes nice expensive things, upgrades his phone yearly, and prioritized getting the bag. I'm not really into expensive things, still have the same phone since middle school, but money is also a priority. I would say the main difference between us is saving/spending habits. He's a big spender while I'm a saver. It made seeing eye to eye on money management extremely hard. I was thinking about were I wanted to be in 7 years meanwhile he was focused on the now. I was willing to compromise until he was pressuring me to use money from my savings. Broke up and never felt better 😙
Wig details please. Us females are looking for some non-sponsered QUALITY wigs!!
Isi's hair is so pretty always but I've never seen a wig slayed this well, wow!
Just my opinion and how I feel.. I hate it when females say "men are SUPPOSED do ABC for me" "I EXPECT a man to do ABC" supposed!!!!!! Except!!!!! No ma'am the only this a man is supposed to do is love on you and is excepted to do right by you and that's it. Normalize teaching young girls to be independent and look after themselves.. since the older ones are comfortable where they are 🙄
Very well said
I can’t wait for the last two episodes y’all are gonna do a full turn.
I'm honestly leaning towards Jamel's side. Debra sounds too materialistic. It's just ridiculous and I do not like the fact that she uses expensive gifts and going to boujee restaurants to validate Jamel treating her like a princess. Why couldn't it be a thing where just the thought counts? She on some serious sugar daddy energy. There is no way he could maintain the lifestyle she wants with a 9 to 5. Her expectations are too high and idealistic like I only see that lifestyle on the internet or reading a book!
According to her...that's just the way she was raised. Her father provided for her with materialistic things and now she expects/looks for a man to do the exact thing.
I understand that its not that I'm choosing Jamel its just that he makes more sense than Debra right now. I haven't watched the other episodes but my opinion will change along the way
I am in my 50’s. My boyfriend does for me as if I were his wife. He said that’s how he was raised. I have never required it but, this is the first time I am experiencing this ‘Princess’ treatment. No over flow of designer bags, just basic provisions, protecting and one or two Coach (I love Coach) items. I appreciate his upbringing but, it is not required. I am not greedy or unrealistic. At my age , it is nice to know chivalry isn’t dead. Great video, as usual.
#sugardaddy I’m here for ALLLLL the mess
ISI! Girl! Your new wig is 🔥! You were beautiful before and your natural hat is beautiful, but this new do is everything! The color is perfect for you. I love you and Josh. ❤️
I’ve been waiting!
You guys’ lighting is perfect y’all look amazing every video yes i’m focused on the topic but Isimeme just be looking so amazing 😭😍 i’m livinggg
She has high expectations but He knew what he was getting into 🤷🏾♀️ especially if she set that standard in the beginning. He should have never faked a lifestyle he can't keep up with 💯
Period
Y’all look tf good today PERIOD 😍😍😍😝❤️
You have to watch the aftermath, you’ll find out chioma is more relatable than y’all thought and Paul was 🧢 .
I was waiting for josh and isi post on the aftermath! to be surprised. This connent took all the excitement out!
@@seascapedreaming5518 nah you good. wait until they post to watch it and you’ll get the details and you’ll be shook.
@@seascapedreaming5518 there I changed it up a little, I didn’t spoil anything at all tho so cheer up it’s al good.
FACTS! Isi said why are these women so reliant and dependent on men who are NOT their husbands?
It is bad now, and it is going to get worse...
Some people’s love language is gifts. It’s not them being materialistic; It’s just that they associate affection with you utilizing your resources to get them something that has significance for them. People who don’t understand the love language could easily misconstrue it for materialism; it’s more about value. You use something you value (money you worked for) for the person…that means something to the person.
I just want to say thank you, for keeping up the quality content and hard work. Lots of love ❤️. #qualitycrewforlife
im trying so hard to like deborah, but she's making it so hard
you'll like her a bit more later on.
It’s gotten to the point where I click on these videos just to see the slayage Isi is about to produce with these looks. Talk about LAIDDDDD!!!! Girl yes.