If I were in the market for a new webcam the FaceCam and the PW513 from Avermedia would definitely be on my shortlist of purchase choices. 📷 Regarding the Wave XLR, I will say that having the ability to use the Wave Link software with any given XLR mic of my choosing is one of the biggest selling points of interest to me. 😆👍👍 Plus, having the ability to use Clip Guard is also another of the biggest selling points for me. ☺👌🎤🎧
wave link is good and all but you can only use it with non usb headphones which you have to plug directly into the mic otherwise the latency is just way to big to be of use in any game
I really don''t understand how a poor quality webcam can have a $200 price x_x I really wish large photography companies to develop serious webcams of quality for the same price.
@@AlexMarvik true, for 200$ you are almost in a used body + kit lens territory. Really makes you think what they could do with that budget, if it was only about a Webcam
That Avermedia Camera just looks wayy better when seeing the comparisons (Avermedia did not sponsor this comment and no money changed hands). Great Review though!
Great job on this video, Pete. I was hoping for a bit higher level of updating on the Stream Deck as I've been shopping the entire line and close to pulling the trigger. Nonetheless, the new functionality/connectivity is welcome and the Wave XLR, as someone who produces video on location with production-quality mics, really sounds, no pun intended, worth a serious look.
I second the comments about adding filters to Wave Link. Right now I can run everything EXCEPT the Wave 3 mic through Wave Link because I need to add the filters in OBS. Makes no sense.
apparently, VST plugins are coming, I just watched Harris talk about in his review of the wave xlr. since it will be part of wave link, I'd be shocked if it didn't work for the wave mics, as well. I'm in the same boat, so I'm hoping it shows up sooner rather than later. Adding each "source" as it's own in OBS is getting annoying. I'd like to use 1 if at all possible to make it more simplistic.
Great review! A mic arm video would be great! I use the Gator Framework Delux and it's really loud when trying to move the arm and it's hard to move if I'm using it to stream. I am looking for a new mic arm that's easy to move out of the way and that it isn't squeaky and loud.
I love Elgato, but i feel they missed the boat with the Webcam. I'd had prefered a more premium product at a higher price point. We've got enough cams in the $200 price point, when looking at Elgato, i'm willing to pay extra for a better product.
An awesome review and video as per usual, Pete! ☺👌 as ever, I appreciate you for taking the time to create this awesome content as well as the high level of detail and thoroughness that you go into here. 😆👍👍 Cheers to you, my man! 🍻
Why don't more reviewers talk about this! Razer webcams are bad because the settings on the webcam are constantly forgotten by other webcams because you need to rely on their software, and their software is finnicky and unclear with how to change between modes. I just want a webcam the remembers it shouldn't automatically turn on auto-exposure, auto focus, 30fps, default contrast and brightness settings, etc everytime I open OBS or Discord
Great video, Pete! I am the proud owner of multiple Elgato items because of this channel. Need to update my stream camera and now have to decide on using camlink or this new camera, which seems to be the best of the lot you have tested. Thanks and keep up the good work!
Thanks a lot for the review, the Wave XLR is very interesting to me. I own a Brio 4K camera so the Facecam won't be much of a change, though it is a great product and something I'll buy if I need another camera
I wished that the Wave XLR had outputs for studio monitors or a true line-out, feels like a missed oportunity. But maybe there will be a Wave XLR Pro that got more outputs? I'd buy that in a heartbeat if got the same sleek look :D
The Wave XLR is nice piece. Can it power a high impediance headphone >250 Ohm loud enough? The go XlR mini I have has a little bit of trouble with my 250Ohm headphone. How is the sound quality? And would it be an upgrade from the mini?
Great video! Thanks for this. Very detailed. I am a audio snob and this wave xlr made the sm7b sound like a wave 3 which to me makes it pointless to switch in my opinion so thank you for making this video
Please if you manage to do the video about mic arms, please add the Vivo Mic Arm, it is $80 and seems incredible (uses actual monitor mounting hardware with a microphone compatible clamp and thread at the end). Edit: Has been in my radar alongside the gator frameworks 3
Hi. I bought the Wave XLR and I'm loving it, but!!!! I use a Mac and which means I can't download the recent VTS software you use with it in Wavelike or OBS. Do you know if Elgato are working on it and if not what do you recommend. Be Good 🤪
My question here is: Can I run any microphone here without using a cloudfilter? I'm honest when I say that I don't want to spend like 80$ for an extra filter when the microphone is already expensive plus the mixer.
We're using HD 60 S+ with Nikon Z6 cameras and Sigma F1.4 Art Lens so I would say the Facecam doesn't tempt us. When we don't have an engineer on lives, admitted get tripped up sometimes with mute as we don't have an indicator light staring talent in the face, so the Wave XLR is somewhat interesting.
I’ve seen you do videos for video and and sound inside of obs, and video filters outside of OBS, but I haven’t seen a video to get the best Audio quality outside of obs ie. inside discord and in game chats
I'm torn with purchasing the Facecam or not. I've been using a C920 for over 4 yrs now and been saying I'd eventually go the DSLR route for years but never have pulled the trigger. Even at $200 its 3x cheaper then a decent DSLR setup (Camera ~500-650, camlink $120, another $50 in accessories) and it seems it would be worlds better then what I currently get out of the C920.
Well, people say that you need Cloudlifter even for GO XLR, which is stupid, it has 70dB of gain, some preamp would always benefit, less noise, etc. The thing is, is 60dB enough? I always see people say that you need more than 60dB on the SM7B, it requires minimum of 60dB, so yeah, it works
Hi. I was looking for any reasonable review of mic arms that will or can fit into my desk environment, but I could not find any. I can see two reasons for that: either it is an impossible configuration for any "normal" arm, or there is no one who made any kind of testing for that unusual mount. But let's get to the point. Most arms are mounted to the desk at the same level (or below) where the keyboard lays and the monitor stands. But my desk is quite small, and cant fit those. My setup is almost completely vertical. I can mount/attach mic arm only to the shelf above my monitor, this is roughly my eyes level or even a little bit higher. Now the QUESTION: is any of those mic arms suitable? Is it be even possible to use the arm and bend it that the mic attachment is below the arm attachment point? Those Elgato arms look like they would fit into that situation. The attachment point of the arm would be about 30* higher than the level of my arm, within arm reach. Any help would be appreciated.
My Rode PSA-1 can bend 90° on the bottom hinge, which means the entire upper arm can point down. So, I think that'd work for your situation. However, that stresses the spring, and might reduce its lifespan.
@@pronewbofficial Thank You. I was also thinking about adapting Manfrotto Magic Arm or simmilar product. Looks like i need to go to some kind of music/photography shop and look more into those arm products.
On the Elgato Facecam: Another point I can add is this. Not every platform supports 4K streaming, such as Twitch. Twitch doesn't necessarily support 4K resolution, meaning, the 4K aspect of those facecams are completely irrelevant. I'd rather the Elgato Cam be 1080P60 for this reason. It's an easier load on the PC like you said, plus I stream on Twitch, so a 4K cam would be a huge waste. This will be plenty good enough for my needs!
The facecam lacks detail and sharpness compared to streamcam, the fact it has a Sony sensor, makes me to ask, why to spend 200$ for facecam, when you can buy the streamcam in sale for like 100$?
the autofocus is a taste thing, i mean i hate when it starts to hunt... but built in mic? in 2021? why? if you get a $200 cam, you should at least get a decent mic as well....
What are your thoughts? At $200 for the Facecam, and $160 for the Wave XLR, do either of these tempt you?
Hi mate! The Wave XLR seems to be nice! One curiosity, what’s your professional camera btw? Cheers
The Wave XLR looks interesting. I have ATR2100X that has really low input, I want to try pre-amp this up
If I were in the market for a new webcam the FaceCam and the PW513 from Avermedia would definitely be on my shortlist of purchase choices. 📷
Regarding the Wave XLR, I will say that having the ability to use the Wave Link software with any given XLR mic of my choosing is one of the biggest selling points of interest to me. 😆👍👍
Plus, having the ability to use Clip Guard is also another of the biggest selling points for me. ☺👌🎤🎧
wave link is good and all but you can only use it with non usb headphones which you have to plug directly into the mic otherwise the latency is just way to big to be of use in any game
I already ordered my Wave XLR for my Blue Ember mic 🎙 Can’t wait! 👀
man, this channel is criminally underrated. straight to the point: no cringe: top tier production: relatable. love the content man
I agree. I always come here for Elgato reviews and comparisons lol
absolutely. his content is raw, unadulterated and helpful.
Whenever I see these new 150€+ "Streaming" Webcams im always impressed by how good the 50€ (pre-corona) Logitech C920 has been for yeaaars.
The C920 is definitely the "Toyota Hilux" of webcams
Some laptops have better webcams then these $200 "streaming" webcams.
@@MalcontentNewsWhat’s a Toyota Hilux? /s
I really don''t understand how a poor quality webcam can have a $200 price x_x
I really wish large photography companies to develop serious webcams of quality for the same price.
@@AlexMarvik true, for 200$ you are almost in a used body + kit lens territory.
Really makes you think what they could do with that budget, if it was only about a Webcam
I would like to see a mic arm video yeah, there's almost none out there, so I think it would be a great idea
Great job on the review on the new products from Elgato.
I’d love to see a comparison of boom arms! Thanks for your excellent review of the new Elgato products!
Thank you. Excellent content!
That Avermedia Camera just looks wayy better when seeing the comparisons (Avermedia did not sponsor this comment and no money changed hands). Great Review though!
Great job on this video, Pete. I was hoping for a bit higher level of updating on the Stream Deck as I've been shopping the entire line and close to pulling the trigger. Nonetheless, the new functionality/connectivity is welcome and the Wave XLR, as someone who produces video on location with production-quality mics, really sounds, no pun intended, worth a serious look.
Heck yeah for the boom arm comparison video!
Great vid btw :)
I second the comments about adding filters to Wave Link. Right now I can run everything EXCEPT the Wave 3 mic through Wave Link because I need to add the filters in OBS. Makes no sense.
apparently, VST plugins are coming, I just watched Harris talk about in his review of the wave xlr. since it will be part of wave link, I'd be shocked if it didn't work for the wave mics, as well. I'm in the same boat, so I'm hoping it shows up sooner rather than later. Adding each "source" as it's own in OBS is getting annoying. I'd like to use 1 if at all possible to make it more simplistic.
A review of the various arms is a good idea. I hope you produce it soon. Thanks for all the excellent tips
Great video! Would love to see a more in depth view on the boom arms comparisons
would love to know about both in depth mic arms as will be getting one for my set up great video as always
Thanks for the detailed review!
I would love to see the boom arm comparisons
me as well. not for streaming but for my WFH set up; i've been having issues with my built in microphone and would like to up my professionalism
Great video. Did Wavelink software get filters added yet ?
Your tech reviews are easily the best, thank you for always delivering and having the most vital information.
For those that watched the review recently, Elgato did add the effects in their software since their last expo.
Great review!
A mic arm video would be great! I use the Gator Framework Delux and it's really loud when trying to move the arm and it's hard to move if I'm using it to stream. I am looking for a new mic arm that's easy to move out of the way and that it isn't squeaky and loud.
Thanks a lot for this thorough review. I never notice Camera Hub. Neat
I love Elgato, but i feel they missed the boat with the Webcam. I'd had prefered a more premium product at a higher price point. We've got enough cams in the $200 price point, when looking at Elgato, i'm willing to pay extra for a better product.
This is a really good video mate, buying neither haha but was nice to see either way 💚
I watched all reviewe of these new products. Yours was best. Thanks!
Definitely interested in seeing a video on mic arms. Cheers,
An awesome review and video as per usual, Pete! ☺👌 as ever, I appreciate you for taking the time to create this awesome content as well as the high level of detail and thoroughness that you go into here. 😆👍👍
Cheers to you, my man! 🍻
Just bought the cam, due to the on-device save function... such a simple thing, but damn it was needed xD
Why don't more reviewers talk about this! Razer webcams are bad because the settings on the webcam are constantly forgotten by other webcams because you need to rely on their software, and their software is finnicky and unclear with how to change between modes. I just want a webcam the remembers it shouldn't automatically turn on auto-exposure, auto focus, 30fps, default contrast and brightness settings, etc everytime I open OBS or Discord
Great reviews 👍
the fact that there is a save function onto the camera is the reason I will buy it. Im so tired of my logitech reverting to default
Great video, Pete! I am the proud owner of multiple Elgato items because of this channel.
Need to update my stream camera and now have to decide on using camlink or this new camera, which seems to be the best of the lot you have tested.
Thanks and keep up the good work!
So early that I had already clicked on your first upload of this, and I am not back to finally watch the final one now.
how did you connect your steal series artic pro head phones to your GO XLR?
please do a video comparing all of the boom arms mentioned
Another awesome video dude! 👏
Very interesting! In particolar the new cam and arm for mic :-)
thanks for the reviews!
VST's are supported in the latest beta build of Wave Link :) (v1.4)
FYI the kiyo pro's firmware update (1.05) fixed all of my focus issues that you (rightly) called out.
I would love to see a video comparing all those arms! :)
Thanks a lot for the review, the Wave XLR is very interesting to me.
I own a Brio 4K camera so the Facecam won't be much of a change, though it is a great product and something I'll buy if I need another camera
my settings arent saving when i click the save button , when i shut down my computer and start it back up everything is default
this wave xlr dial looks exactly like the evo audio evo4 or evo8. I wonder if they manufacture it.
what is that desk light ( camera light)? your transitions are nice too; apart form the content which is cool too. 8/10
I use the blue compass as a low profile / under the monitor mic boom arm. Can you compare with the LP Elgato?
Thanks for the review.
great review, thanks
I wished that the Wave XLR had outputs for studio monitors or a true line-out, feels like a missed oportunity. But maybe there will be a Wave XLR Pro that got more outputs? I'd buy that in a heartbeat if got the same sleek look :D
Any chance any of those Mic Boom Arm's have a 4Inch or larger clamp? Ya boi got a thicc desk.
Please do a review of Mic Boom Arms, it would be very helpful...
The Wave XLR is nice piece. Can it power a high impediance headphone >250 Ohm loud enough? The go XlR mini I have has a little bit of trouble with my 250Ohm headphone. How is the sound quality? And would it be an upgrade from the mini?
Can you make a video about the OBSBOT Tiny PTZ webcam?
Sad that the wave XLR won't work with a two PC setup. I'm surprised that they didn't add any additional I/O
no disrespect but as a music streamer the xlr doesnt come close to what I have and my gear is cheaper
Great video! Thanks for this. Very detailed. I am a audio snob and this wave xlr made the sm7b sound like a wave 3 which to me makes it pointless to switch in my opinion so thank you for making this video
Over here trying to figure out what that thing is with 66 shortcut keys at 7:45..
What is that stand used for the traditional boom arm mic?
That Wave XLR could be a game changer. I'm curious if it'll work with the iPad pro.
The sure sm7b is the opposite of power hungry it doesn't even use phantom power?
So if I have the elgato wave 3 mic do I need the elgato wave xlr to make it better?
Please if you manage to do the video about mic arms, please add the Vivo Mic Arm, it is $80 and seems incredible (uses actual monitor mounting hardware with a microphone compatible clamp and thread at the end).
Edit: Has been in my radar alongside the gator frameworks 3
Hi. I bought the Wave XLR and I'm loving it, but!!!! I use a Mac and which means I can't download the recent VTS software you use with it in Wavelike or OBS. Do you know if Elgato are working on it and if not what do you recommend. Be Good 🤪
My question here is: Can I run any microphone here without using a cloudfilter? I'm honest when I say that I don't want to spend like 80$ for an extra filter when the microphone is already expensive plus the mixer.
We're using HD 60 S+ with Nikon Z6 cameras and Sigma F1.4 Art Lens so I would say the Facecam doesn't tempt us. When we don't have an engineer on lives, admitted get tripped up sometimes with mute as we don't have an indicator light staring talent in the face, so the Wave XLR is somewhat interesting.
Curious how it compares to Brio.
What about Wave XLR vs GoXLR mini?
Yes, do a mic arm comparison video!
I’ve seen you do videos for video and and sound inside of obs, and video filters outside of OBS, but I haven’t seen a video to get the best Audio quality outside of obs ie. inside discord and in game chats
How does your channel perform with one video a month?
will the wave xlr work on a 2 pc streaming setup?
I'm torn with purchasing the Facecam or not. I've been using a C920 for over 4 yrs now and been saying I'd eventually go the DSLR route for years but never have pulled the trigger. Even at $200 its 3x cheaper then a decent DSLR setup (Camera ~500-650, camlink $120, another $50 in accessories) and it seems it would be worlds better then what I currently get out of the C920.
yes please, we want to see arm comparison
There is a really bad green tint on that facecam. I have noticed this in a lot of different reviews so far
what app was on your tablet at 7:47
Adding support for mic arm video
Isn't it better to buy a canon m 50?
So a Fethead won't be necessary with the Wave XLR?
Well, people say that you need Cloudlifter even for GO XLR, which is stupid, it has 70dB of gain, some preamp would always benefit, less noise, etc. The thing is, is 60dB enough? I always see people say that you need more than 60dB on the SM7B, it requires minimum of 60dB, so yeah, it works
@@luk7n Thanks!
Definitely not needed. Neither with the GoXLR nor with the Wave.
Mic arm comparison please!
i don't know why would you use noise gate while you reviewing an audio interface neither i know why would you use music while testing the mic
Hi. I was looking for any reasonable review of mic arms that will or can fit into my desk environment, but I could not find any. I can see two reasons for that: either it is an impossible configuration for any "normal" arm, or there is no one who made any kind of testing for that unusual mount.
But let's get to the point. Most arms are mounted to the desk at the same level (or below) where the keyboard lays and the monitor stands. But my desk is quite small, and cant fit those. My setup is almost completely vertical. I can mount/attach mic arm only to the shelf above my monitor, this is roughly my eyes level or even a little bit higher.
Now the QUESTION: is any of those mic arms suitable? Is it be even possible to use the arm and bend it that the mic attachment is below the arm attachment point? Those Elgato arms look like they would fit into that situation. The attachment point of the arm would be about 30* higher than the level of my arm, within arm reach.
Any help would be appreciated.
My Rode PSA-1 can bend 90° on the bottom hinge, which means the entire upper arm can point down. So, I think that'd work for your situation. However, that stresses the spring, and might reduce its lifespan.
@@pronewbofficial Thank You. I was also thinking about adapting Manfrotto Magic Arm or simmilar product. Looks like i need to go to some kind of music/photography shop and look more into those arm products.
If wave xlr had line in and out ports, I would sell my rodecaster pro. Other option is goxlr for sure but it does not support mac!
On the Elgato Facecam:
Another point I can add is this. Not every platform supports 4K streaming, such as Twitch. Twitch doesn't necessarily support 4K resolution, meaning, the 4K aspect of those facecams are completely irrelevant. I'd rather the Elgato Cam be 1080P60 for this reason. It's an easier load on the PC like you said, plus I stream on Twitch, so a 4K cam would be a huge waste. This will be plenty good enough for my needs!
you sold me on the facecam just ordered one lol
wave links gettin the ash kash special while ear trumpet is just lonely in the corner
we need a mic that has flash memory to save the settings too
The streaming gear that you have just chillin on shelf is better than 85% of most streamer setups
AverMedia wins out. Also what's with the fish-eye on the Razer. I feel like their products consistently don't justify their price tag.
I just don't think it's that much better than my c920 for the price. But I do really like it.
Why did you private this
For the mind games.
@@Defrag we want the truth!
Yes, Elgato don't make a hybrid wireless/wired mechanical keyboard or MMO Mouse :[ Corsair has the K95 and Scimitar but those are wired only :[ :[
El gato is basically a software company that also sells hardware for it. The software is where the most value is from my experience
in most cases a professional Streamer will choose a DSLR or a DSLM over a Webcam like the Sony a6000 or the Sony a5100.
I think I will keep my dbx setup
I legit don't need any of these, but I still really must.
WAVE LINK:*exists*
me who has been using voicemeter for years: so it is expensive voicemetter?
The facecam lacks detail and sharpness compared to streamcam, the fact it has a Sony sensor, makes me to ask, why to spend 200$ for facecam, when you can buy the streamcam in sale for like 100$?
the autofocus is a taste thing, i mean i hate when it starts to hunt... but built in mic? in 2021? why? if you get a $200 cam, you should at least get a decent mic as well....
"are there any products Elgato don't make?" - just wait until their announcements next year.
Maybe this will give the goxlr the kick it’s been needing
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An HDMI 2.1 capture card.
they don't make an XLR microphone
For f sake, just got the stream deck 15 key after years of savings! 1 month ago.
You might still be able to return it