I found that the 4k springs made for a much better towing setup with my dually. I started with 3k springs then I went to 4k. My power band is very wide now and comes in at lower RPM. I installed 60lb head springs but I've only been over 3000 like once maybe twice
Interesting. Maybe I'll have to give it a go. Will you say that it smokes more with the 4k Springs? I also noticed some cold start stalling with adding the 3K Springs. Do you notice any of that? Or are you not in a cold climate
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow up your idle rpm maybe? I also installed 4K and found it better than 3k. No extra smoke. I ground my fuel plate and I could make a brand new clutch slip with ease. Nice light haze. Iirc I ground something close to 100 plate. But that was quite a few years ago.
4k springs fuel harder down low. if you're running a bigger turbo helps with spool 4k are not just for a race truck you don't have to go to 4k. just a preference
dodgekindaguy thanks for your comment, I did not know that. I am still going to stick with the 3K Springs however. I really like the way it drives now with the #11 plate I installed as well. tons of more acceleration am I still get 18 to a maximum of 24 MPG depending on what kind of driving.
thanks for the video. i don't know jack about diesels but am looking to buy one with this kit installed. When I start asking questions about his install to the seller, they think "hey this guy knows his stuff... i better be straight up with him" lol
Just installed my 3k springs from street sport industries using this video. Made it easy to do and I performed with confidence due to this video. Only question I ever had was do I reinstall the stock shims or leave them out?? I left mine out and tightened to same measurements. Hope this was right. Took about hour and half and I didn't remove air horn but did remove the keyed bracket. Word to the wary my key did fall out and I didn't know... So I installed it a little off and the fuel shutoff solenoid couldn't work. I had a runaway situation. Couldn't articulate the lever because was bound from incorrect location black garbage bagged the turbo filter finally got it off. Reinstalled correctly and no issues. Thanks for taking the time on the video. Incredibly straight forward and good video goes with the good instructions!
Justin Hoth thank you for your comment! And I'm glad that the video helped you out!. That's crazy about your runaway condition, I didn't realize that key could even fall out of there.! And as far as the shims go, I actually don't remember if I put mine back in or not. I think the instructions said to leave them out if I remember right but maybe I'll have to look more into that. It certainly takes a little bit of time to make a video and edit it, but it's all worth it when people like you leave comments thanking me. Thanks again for thd support!
NoNonsenseKnowHow it's what my truck really needed. Truly kicked up the acceleration. Ya I think the magnet I was using picked it up when I was putting it in to get the seats and shims out. Little half Moon key I guess. Once again I appreciate it! Now onto getting my torque converter lock to work again ha ha.
But then you end up with stalling issues when it's really cold out carried I actually turned my Springs in one more additional click to get rid of cold stalling. Every time I would let off the accelerator before the engine was warmed up it would stall out
I dont have starting stall probs it starts great specs for my pump says 4 to 10 90deg clicks is a big margin, im not sure what thay are set on at the moment thewire seals have been taken, will loosen springs bring fuel on earlier.
NoNonsenseKnowHow 10-4 it might be normal being that this is my first one but yeah runs great I just need to do what you did and get a pressure gauge and see what it’s at. I did pressurize the tank and heard no leaks and saw no leaks so 😐
Did you have to adjust idle speed ? After install and did. Your truck keep the way it’s supposed to start without touching pedal? Trying to keep mine like it was before gsk
If it's cold I have to slightly press the pedal to start. But then again I think the factory owners manual says that you should do that when it's cold right? I did have to adjust my idle. the springs definitely affected the cold idle. Not sure if you saw but I actually did another video about a cold idle problem I was having and had to turn down the governor spring nut a little bit
Ok gotcha are you up north where it’s really cold? I’m down south so I hope it don’t have a lot of trouble starting but I see you measure yours I measure mine from top of stud strait down to top of lock nut I got 0.149 on Digital caliper
@@cdpperformance2613 yeah I'm in Pennsylvania. It gets pretty chilly. You should be good either way. Might just have to tweak idle a touch. But that's very simple
Yea I installed the 4k gsk yesterday went 4 clicks in and truck wanted to run away at 1600 rpm’s idle up! So backed off one click came down to 1k so I’m going out this morning going to back off one more click and hope it fixed it haven’t touched idle 10mm nut yet
Ray Gaither its the distance that the stem protrudes past the lock washer. When you take yours apart it will be more clear. Sorry if i failed to explain it in the video properly.
My 12 valve had a stalling issue. I replaced the lift pump bc I didn't trust how the old one. Replaced the screen filter and and fuel filter. No leaks from what I can see. Truck does run again but still dies. I adjusted the idle screw a little bit and I got the truck to idle but the idle just bounces up and down. Its making me think it was a governor spring issue this whole time. My idle will go from 800 to 1500 and continue doing that. I fine tuned the idle screw and it doesn't matter. It's either no idle or it'll idle 800 to 1500 rpm. Any help would be appreciated. I did plan to change the governor springs prior to my current problem.
Set you idol screw low around 650 to 700 it will come back down on its own instead of staying stuck wide open at 1500 while coming to a stop. Only down side is that your oil light will keep dropping on and off
Andrew Stevens I don't see why not. But I've honestly not had my pump off the truck so I couldn't say a 100%. as long as you can rotate the pump then you should be fine
NoNonsenseKnowHow I got the 4ks in my pump with it off the truck. It was very simple! I put the shaft nut back on the pump to rotate the shaft with a wrench. And as for the shims I mentioned in the comment above turns out the shims are not always even on each side I didn’t drop any.
Andrew Stevens awesome man! Thanks for updating and sharing. I never did one off the truck but yeah it makes sense that would be pretty easy. Much better access...
I’m putting 4ks in my truck right now. I got one set in and it had 2 shims. Then I went to do the next set and they had 3. I’m worried I dropped one in my pump
With the kit are used in this video you do not use the factory shims. I'm not quite sure why. But yes if you are missing one of the factory shims in there then I would also be worried that it dropped in the pump. Maybe you can try fishing out with a magnet or something?
Thanks for the video. I have been wanting to go with 3k springs for a little while now. How long did it take for you to do the whole job? Awesome video man.
Anyone ever had a washer on one side and not the other. Tamper wire still on. Swear I didn't see one fall off. Looked with light and mirror for half hour. There's nothing there. Put the new springs in and everything seems good. STRESSED
I found that the 4k springs made for a much better towing setup with my dually. I started with 3k springs then I went to 4k. My power band is very wide now and comes in at lower RPM. I installed 60lb head springs but I've only been over 3000 like once maybe twice
Interesting. Maybe I'll have to give it a go. Will you say that it smokes more with the 4k Springs? I also noticed some cold start stalling with adding the 3K Springs. Do you notice any of that? Or are you not in a cold climate
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow up your idle rpm maybe? I also installed 4K and found it better than 3k. No extra smoke. I ground my fuel plate and I could make a brand new clutch slip with ease. Nice light haze. Iirc I ground something close to 100 plate. But that was quite a few years ago.
@@davidburdett1920 Did you guys keep the stock schemes in place,while you replacing the springs?
4k springs fuel harder down low. if you're running a bigger turbo helps with spool 4k are not just for a race truck you don't have to go to 4k. just a preference
dodgekindaguy thanks for your comment, I did not know that. I am still going to stick with the 3K Springs however. I really like the way it drives now with the #11 plate I installed as well. tons of more acceleration am I still get 18 to a maximum of 24 MPG depending on what kind of driving.
How do you like the 11 plate? Do you have it installed full fwd? Stock clutch? If so how's it holding up.
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow what is the #11 plate ??
When I measured mine it was on a dial style caliper but it did 1 whole revolution then stopped about 40 thousandths.
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thanks for the video. i don't know jack about diesels but am looking to buy one with this kit installed. When I start asking questions about his install to the seller, they think "hey this guy knows his stuff... i better be straight up with him" lol
Just installed my 3k springs from street sport industries using this video. Made it easy to do and I performed with confidence due to this video. Only question I ever had was do I reinstall the stock shims or leave them out?? I left mine out and tightened to same measurements. Hope this was right. Took about hour and half and I didn't remove air horn but did remove the keyed bracket. Word to the wary my key did fall out and I didn't know... So I installed it a little off and the fuel shutoff solenoid couldn't work. I had a runaway situation. Couldn't articulate the lever because was bound from incorrect location black garbage bagged the turbo filter finally got it off. Reinstalled correctly and no issues. Thanks for taking the time on the video. Incredibly straight forward and good video goes with the good instructions!
Justin Hoth thank you for your comment! And I'm glad that the video helped you out!. That's crazy about your runaway condition, I didn't realize that key could even fall out of there.! And as far as the shims go, I actually don't remember if I put mine back in or not. I think the instructions said to leave them out if I remember right but maybe I'll have to look more into that. It certainly takes a little bit of time to make a video and edit it, but it's all worth it when people like you leave comments thanking me. Thanks again for thd support!
NoNonsenseKnowHow it's what my truck really needed. Truly kicked up the acceleration.
Ya I think the magnet I was using picked it up when I was putting it in to get the seats and shims out. Little half Moon key I guess. Once again I appreciate it! Now onto getting my torque converter lock to work again ha ha.
So a guy doesnt need to loosen injector lines to turn motor over...? I am just learning the whole diesel thing, thanks
Do you have to have a manual transmission for this?
No
If you back these spings off say, 2 notches would it increase fuel faster to the injectors.
But then you end up with stalling issues when it's really cold out carried I actually turned my Springs in one more additional click to get rid of cold stalling. Every time I would let off the accelerator before the engine was warmed up it would stall out
I dont have starting stall probs it starts great specs for my pump says 4 to 10 90deg clicks is a big margin, im not sure what thay are set on at the moment thewire seals have been taken, will loosen springs bring fuel on earlier.
@@nigelcase2991 yes correct. I believe I touched on that in the video. I could be mistaken..
You ever figure out the fuel air issue on your truck brother? My p7100 makes an airy sound when warm? Is that normal? Truck runs fine but idk lol
Mine never made any sounds. No never got rid of the tiny air bubbles completely. Seems to be fine though
NoNonsenseKnowHow 10-4 it might be normal being that this is my first one but yeah runs great I just need to do what you did and get a pressure gauge and see what it’s at. I did pressurize the tank and heard no leaks and saw no leaks so 😐
My truck sputters at high rpms only! Has 3k springs! Could they be the issue?
Could possibly be the factory lift pump not supplying enough fuel at high rpms if you dont have an aftermarket fuel system
Did you have to adjust idle speed ? After install and did. Your truck keep the way it’s supposed to start without touching pedal? Trying to keep mine like it was before gsk
If it's cold I have to slightly press the pedal to start. But then again I think the factory owners manual says that you should do that when it's cold right? I did have to adjust my idle. the springs definitely affected the cold idle. Not sure if you saw but I actually did another video about a cold idle problem I was having and had to turn down the governor spring nut a little bit
Which helped, but it's still not as good as Factory
Ok gotcha are you up north where it’s really cold? I’m down south so I hope it don’t have a lot of trouble starting but I see you measure yours I measure mine from top of stud strait down to top of lock nut I got 0.149 on Digital caliper
@@cdpperformance2613 yeah I'm in Pennsylvania. It gets pretty chilly. You should be good either way. Might just have to tweak idle a touch. But that's very simple
Yea I installed the 4k gsk yesterday went 4 clicks in and truck wanted to run away at 1600 rpm’s idle up! So backed off one click came down to 1k so I’m going out this morning going to back off one more click and hope it fixed it haven’t touched idle 10mm nut yet
I am not clear on what was measured before you took the retainer off.
Ray Gaither its the distance that the stem protrudes past the lock washer. When you take yours apart it will be more clear. Sorry if i failed to explain it in the video properly.
Thanks, great video.
I guess the question is, what else needs to be done if the 3k 4k is installed for a proper job.
My 12 valve had a stalling issue. I replaced the lift pump bc I didn't trust how the old one. Replaced the screen filter and and fuel filter. No leaks from what I can see. Truck does run again but still dies. I adjusted the idle screw a little bit and I got the truck to idle but the idle just bounces up and down. Its making me think it was a governor spring issue this whole time. My idle will go from 800 to 1500 and continue doing that. I fine tuned the idle screw and it doesn't matter. It's either no idle or it'll idle 800 to 1500 rpm. Any help would be appreciated. I did plan to change the governor springs prior to my current problem.
Maybe getting air in the fuel system? Does it start right up always?
it’s either air in the fuel like he said or governor springs
Make sure gov springs are adjusted properly.
Set you idol screw low around 650 to 700 it will come back down on its own instead of staying stuck wide open at 1500 while coming to a stop. Only down side is that your oil light will keep dropping on and off
Can you do this with the injection pump off the truck
Andrew Stevens I don't see why not. But I've honestly not had my pump off the truck so I couldn't say a 100%. as long as you can rotate the pump then you should be fine
Andrew Stevens let me know how you make out with. I'm curious
NoNonsenseKnowHow thanks man! I’m gonna tackle the job soon I’ll let you know if it works.
NoNonsenseKnowHow I got the 4ks in my pump with it off the truck. It was very simple! I put the shaft nut back on the pump to rotate the shaft with a wrench. And as for the shims I mentioned in the comment above turns out the shims are not always even on each side I didn’t drop any.
Andrew Stevens awesome man! Thanks for updating and sharing. I never did one off the truck but yeah it makes sense that would be pretty easy. Much better access...
do you remember about how long it took to do this?
If I remember right it took about an hour or 2
@@NoNonsenseKnowHow thank you, I figured as much. just wanted an estimated time before I tell the wife how long it might take me lol
@@dakotahazelwood3500 Got ya. no problem and good luck on it!
Do I need the shims with the 4K gsks?
I’m putting 4ks in my truck right now. I got one set in and it had 2 shims. Then I went to do the next set and they had 3. I’m worried I dropped one in my pump
With the kit are used in this video you do not use the factory shims. I'm not quite sure why. But yes if you are missing one of the factory shims in there then I would also be worried that it dropped in the pump. Maybe you can try fishing out with a magnet or something?
Thanks for the video. I have been wanting to go with 3k springs for a little while now. How long did it take for you to do the whole job? Awesome video man.
tomduncan1970 thanks for your comment. Without stopping to shoot a video, I would say it's about an hour job. maybe less if you're fast
Took me about hour and half didn't take off air horn had girlfriends help spotting the springs as I cranked engine over with 15mm
Why’s the star wheel cap looking like that?
mother natures a bitch. lol
Anyone ever had a washer on one side and not the other. Tamper wire still on. Swear I didn't see one fall off. Looked with light and mirror for half hour. There's nothing there. Put the new springs in and everything seems good. STRESSED
Just did mine today and ran into the same exact situation. Did you ever have any issues?
This was hard to watch. That click noise you make with your mouth was too much every 5 seconds.
lol. I'm sure you have your fair share of annoying habits and quirks. ;)
Can't say you're wrong though. Thanks for pointing it out. Hopefully you still found the video useful
And I missed how this was helpful to the topic...