Articulating an Alternative to the People's Action Party's Singapore
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ต.ค. 2020
- On 1 October 2020, Dr PJ Thum delivered the keynote lecture at the Progress Singapore Party (PSP) fundraising dinner. In it, he outlines three major ideologies which underpin People's Action Party (PAP) governance in Singapore and explains how the PAP has tied these to Singapore's national identity. Further, reflecting on GE2020, PJ explains how the Worker's Party has positioned itself in relation to these ideologies. He challenges the PSP (and all other political parties) to articulate a coherent alternative. Until a political party has formed a coherent platform and articulated clearly what the party's values are, PJ argues, it cannot attract loyal members, have committed supporters, or develop a coherent, sustainable party.
Text of the speech available at newnaratif.com/podcast/articu...
Please note that the opinions expressed in this speech are PJ's personal views and are not endorsed by the Progress Singapore Party.
This video is a re-upload of the previous video, which had audio issues (the stereo mix was out of phase). We apologise for the inconvenience caused.
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PJ is not a normal average Singaporean. Intellectually, he is an OXFORD Professor Elite level. Physically and mentally he is at World Class athlete level. I don't think he can be cowed to bow to fear. He is UnBreakable!
I like everything about him including the batik shirt and his sense of humour.
@Muhammad Yasir u care about Singapore right? Why not u stand for elections? Hope this answers your question.
What happened to the then WP secret weapon Mao ?
@@lktan224 Was his style not appropriate for a Weaker Party ? Too much of a threat to status quo?
@@muhdyasirsadon59 top much of a Threat. Too good. Politically Incorrect
Go PJ!!!!! Next GE PSP is a party i trust aside WP.
To rely on just WP helped by the LO would be a Single Point of Failure. I am not suggesting in any way that Pritam Singh is the Single point of failure. To say that would be politically incorrect.
@@LonganLee more opposition so PAP can't do what ever they want at the same time train more outsider to manage GRC
Hope part time MP pay can be adjusted if more opposition join. If your doing full time I guess it's acceptable but part time is really to much
i also heard that when public asks lw question in regard to 99 yrs hdb flats will have zero value and flat will be confiscated from 99 year tenant to be returned to hdb , his answer to the public is , stop asking or you will be arrested .
is this true or is this a fake , if this is true isnt this abuse of power , isnt this threathening the public who did not commit any offence or crime , is asking question not allowed ?
Do u have any idea in regard to this real or fake news ?
Really appreciate the sacrifice and perseverance of Dr Tham!
23:00 Subjective institutional morality vs absolute legal morality. Excellent point.
That's a very good analysis of the WP
PJ, it seems you compose the song, struck guitar, sung the song also. No offence, you should get a job in the Government instead of being a one man show. I’m not pro-PAP.
but I find you are a bit too bossy when you speak to us.
@@johnnyhs_ngnng5554 I feel the Opposite. So how? Does the govt have the ability to attract all the talents? It would not be good if it does because it means no change
@@johnnyhs_ngnng5554 You should see how Shan spoke to him. Your 3rd statement already gave you away. Gaslighting at its best.
@@johnnyhs_ngnng5554 isn’t the pap just a one man show and that is LKY party? LOLOLOL
Identity politics. Well spoken.
The problem with living in Singapore is that we are working for the sake of making money, whereas in other countries, we work for more practical purpose: raising children, giving them good quality education and enjoying some of the good things in life.
Try doing both. It works
Can you name me a country where people are not working to pay the bills and which country do you have in mind which you reckon to be a better model for Singapore? In most developed countries, whatever you make, 50% goes into paying tax to pay for those who doesnt work and it doesnt reward hard-working people
Don't need money for all these?
Sg people are comfortable and opposition are too weak that people wont want to try voting. The majority always cross >50% first for PAP due to this 2 reasons.
@@jarrenloke2120But there are countries that emphasize on balancing work and life as well, aren't there?
Given what they say, why not they abolish democracy if they really believe in what they say?
Cool. Glad it worked out with the audio :)
Good questions for the PSP to consider & ponder!
What Explains the landslide victory in Jalan Besar despite the Dormitory Fiasco and last minute insert into the GRC? I feel like giving up citizenship
where can you go?
If you ask me, what is a Singaporean? I would say for myself, I am a singaporean who is if asked do you want justice? I would say yes but I may not be able to afford the lawyer. Do you want Democracy? I would say Yes but I cow to fear. I am politically democratically Impotent, metaphorically speaking.
LHY has set d ball rolling by recently donated to a newly founded Legal Fund for anyone like LSH who cannot afford d high legal cost fighting against a powerful giant esp in d DC.
@@leechengho8407 well, the good news is LHL if retire in a few years will allow more opportunities for change. And even he is bounded by the rules of ageing. For many of us below the age of 50, we have a chance to see a SG not ruled by Lee. I doubt his children wants to take over seeing how much things have changed. If it were a LKY sg , yes, his children has 101% chance winning big majority. Now his parking App guy still have not shown interest wor. Anyways , the odds are against them
@@LonganLee
But still picked by lee.
Thought provoking…
@@LonganLee Grandson lee will only enter politics if PAP lose majority....will only come in as a rebel.
Wow!!! Thanks
P J 👍
The Opposition are most suitable to start a Union but they have not tried
Yeah Very well said
Dear History Professor,
Please tell us when they will be(come) history
- which stage of the exit process are they at? -
so a catalyst may be better ‘arranged’, the process warp speeded-up/accelerated,
thank you, sir.
Thanks, audio is working now
Great! Thanks for letting us know about the problem.
WP is "Team B" -like I think because they realise thats the only way to secure a win because at the end of the day to win anything they need buy-in from the voters who have a uniquely Singapore mindset or mentality. Kia Si , Kia Su, Kia CH, Kia Bor are merely a few of the attributes characterising them.
This can branch off to good or bad consequences. The bad is LO becomes the Single fking point of failure . 擒贼先擒王。
I argue that WP is popular and successful because it aligns itself firmly with three ideologies espoused by the PAP, technocracy and elitism.
The popularity of Jamus Lim attests to that. Singaporeans supported him because he is a technocrat, spoke technical terms and has certainly shown the capacity to make the important decision without the need to consider individual opinion. Rather than attributing this solely to the ruling party, I argue that the general population is responsible for the current state of politics today, embracing technocratic leaderships and disregarding individual rights.
If PSP stands directly against these values, I doubt it will gain much traction like WP.
No choice sg is too right wing elitism as presented by PAP. They are merely a strong representation of right wing politics. Famous cities are going more center-left wing as working class want more leaves and welfare. Unless u are Japan then u can fully embrace right wing, proud nationalism and identity. Sg dont have the same identity. PAP are in catch-22 situation, want to be right wing yet have left wing policy like floodgates open.
When TCB founded PSP, he wanted it to look like PAP, which is why PSP instead of SPP. To make themselves even more legit, they tried to bring in LHY which IMO is tasteless and upset many pioneer citizens due to his self attempt to tarnish the name of the late LKY. PSP is a one-trick pony party, the moment TCB retires (now already 80s). PSP will become irrelevant unless they are able to rope in ex-PAP members, But then again, if I want PAP to rule, why vote for copy right? Might as well vote for PAP instead.
@@markfish1113 PAP is neither right or left, PAP government are simply practical government that have to align themselves in the world to ensure Singapore remain relevent.
@@jarrenloke2120 Well, their current position is centre-right If not for vote share dropping they wouldn't shift left to provide more welfare, they were extreme right before Aljunied GRC was lost. From current situation centre is best position to be in as China adopted this position and USA are left vs right. Both most powerful nations currently.
Very good speech. Thanks for the great insight.
Great breakdown on reality.
Can you do a segment beyond identity politic.. Example
How to stand up for Singapore
Our best wishes to Our Future
God bless Singapore
Fully whole heartedly agree with your grateful comment, sad to say there are fake ungrateful shameless guys around , painting negatives pictures but still sticking around ! Tak malu creature.
Good Academic Points of ideals which virtually presents what politics should be and how to formulate strategies for greater voter support. Now PSP has alot of homework to transform these ideologies into practice and communicate to the rest of Singapore in 4+years time. I am sure TCB would want to hire PJ as a political strategist for the party which I had suggested months ago. PJ is an academic strategist (he by nature is reluctant to lead otherwise he would have set out his own party, but would accept and do well as a senior adviser), he needs practical political people around him to bounce his ideals to practical solutions.
Academia based on the Western economic model will not work in a country like Singapore and the only reason why Singapore is such a shinning little red dot is that we don't blindly follow western culture and system.
Very Intellectually impressive speech by Prof Thum!
My comments :
1. He said what I agree is the thinking of the garment.
But given the power by the People, they do what they decide is right. Humans are not saints . The concerns raised by Thum is something not unexpected because humans are not perfect and given power can easily become what they have become.
2. Thum has not fairly point out the StakeHolders role and responsibility in a Democracy as enshrined in our Constitution. What he is saying could have Implied the People has failed to a certain extent in contributing to uphold democracy. But it's explicitly not mentioned.
3. Thum could have mentioned the mechanism of democracy which is a Participatory activity or concept . The Voters should participate actively and not behave like majority Singaporeans who play the role more like a Soldier afraid and compliant with authority or authoritarianism rather than behaving as a free human with rights to freely express their views in a responsible way. The people on paper are allowed such freedom but in effect they live in self censorship that prevents them from feeling free to express their views in a responsible manner.
My point is Thum should hit the nail on the head and point out the other component of the problem and that's the people.
A. If voters wait for approval to be freely express their views in a responsible manner, will they ever be granted explicit approval?
This means the People should have the Initiative without which the democracy is impotent.
B. A country either has democracy or it does not. It's like being transparent or it is not. Being Semi- transparent is just a play with English words to make what is not transparent to be somehow still transparent. In reality there should be another term for it. Call a spade a spade.
C. The People KNOW FULL WELL all the criticisms against the govt. Many agree. But there is something about their mindset or values they subscribe to that allows them to ACCEPT these flaws or weaknesses or wrongs with the system.
I call this ASIAN values. Self Preservation, Selfish Self-Interest over the society at the expense of social justice. In this regard, would it be fair to suggest the People live in absolute poverty of moral courage?
@Jk K Many of they feel a need for change. But FEAR prevented them from doing what they ideally would like to do. What is missing in them is the wisdom how to overcome this problem.
@Jk K This is one Productive , Effective way. But there is no organisation behind such movement other than thru political rallies which do not happen every day.
My thinking is The 99% is actually the Goliath who has been brainwashed to believe they are David. The power of the Mob is always greater than the 1% if only they realise by waking up from the matrix, as it were
Never was so much owed by so many to so few..
Sorry for the excitement
PJP 👍👍👍
What is PJP stand for?
@@soonisoon5788 PJP= Progressive Justice Party. Also can mean A Party by PJ 👍. Sure Win Votes
Alas, most voters are “cognitive misers” or “cognitive sloths” n don’t overthink their voting decisions.
Voters SHOULD be using their NRIC no. As a voter slip. No need to FEAR the gov knowing who you vote for, thereby reducing the chances for gov to issue double voter slips, to change the win/ lose in election.
P J👍 PJ
👍👏💪🏽🙏
PJ, u r real educated. I wonder how many education ink not high 1 can understand ur speech!?
For Change to come, for SG to be a full democracy, the People must have initiative and prove they do not Cow to Fear and admit that there is no Democracy when the people are Ruled by Fear. Can an enemy country of SG conquer SG knowing how the people cow to fear?
Never was so much owed to so few.. Sir Winston Churchill
👍👍👍👏👏👏Very clear and in-depth. Those who find it difficult to understand, its because they have mental block and leaving things to fate.
I salute Dr. Tan Cheng Bock, like PJThum say he can relax with a glass of whisky, but he noes we r not in the real S'porean way of life, he's sacrifice his time, to get all s'porean get together, he's 80+ now, but still moving, wake up my bro, sis. & to all s'porean
Ya. Younger Singaporeans should take the queue from admirable Dr Tsn Cheng Bok.
I am Foo Tee Neng.
Thank You.
Hi New Naratif , any Plans to make an Inquisitorial Video on the several High Profile Distancing episodes “ Phenomena “ surrounding Sg Politics since LKY’s passing ? … Maybe Start with TIMING of LKY’s & Ex Comm of Police, Goh Yong Hong’s Deaths which Occurred coincidentally within Weeks AFTER serious Allegations that can INCRIMINATE Both were Filed in SG High Court… ie. Coincidence , Phenomena or KARMA? Of Course You can follow thru with the unmistakable Pattern of Trusted LKY Generals either Politely Distancing or Declining High Office Appts… 🤓
Is the IPS not REDUNDANT already?
Challenging and redefining PAP’s three fundamental ideologies is a tall order for the Progress Singapore Party, but, to progress they must. We are in a situation where we know there are many flaws in the system of governance and it needed improvement without a doubt.
Yes. PAP has deviated from many of their original core principles, our parents have accepted the deviations as a sacrifice in exchange for progress. But for 60+ years of independence progress to most Singaporeans meant little more than a HDB flat and some untouchable cash in CPF, stagnant salary, and the cost of living kept soaring for no apparent reason while a small group of “the selected ones” within an “inner circle” took off to Stratosphere.
I think refining and redefining PAP’s three core principles would be a good start for PSP. For example how would PSP define human rights in the Singapore context that would be reasonable and acceptable, how it would view accountability should be enforced in a government, and how it proposes a Standard Operation Procedure to solving national problems.
PSP had done very well in the last GE considering the fact that the party is very young. That’s a message of encouragement to PSP loud and clear and with that, we sincerely look forward to seeing PSP’s continuing mission for the good of Singapore’s future.
Chinese say, "Ci bao zao wen Ti"
Bro ,money is for our family to survive.
We elect any party to form a government to provide jobs , houses ,schools ,hospitals and more .A caring government is what we need not some government like sri lanka.
Well articulated, PJ. Me Ernest Lau would be really proud of you. If the PAP can appreciate n accommodate your intellectual capital n emotion bond to Singapore, PJ could be someone like Prof Tommy Koh.
Hang in there, PJ. Prophets are not always accepted in their homeland.
But can the majority Singapore voters have enough Moral Courage to be able to AFFORD just a little thing called DEMOCRACY where citizens need not be so afraid to speak his mind to express his opinion about a policy without fear? Is a typical singaporean well off enough in moral courage? Or is a typical singaporean living in poverty of courage?
I think WK party will win from next elaxtion all the best for you WK party, Anmiin thank you
PJ is one of the smartest man in Singapore. He would make an excellent PM.
Yes he smart but does he have the skill n heart to execute?
He should know by now ordinary sgreans who wanted change are powerless since we dont have the money and resources to go to court with pap. Some of us alr have problem with livelihood. So it's abit naive to talk about empowering ppl. We can't win if whole sg is not united. What we can do is vote someone who have all these into parliment. To execute reform so ppl dont have to fear speaking up to gov n policy.
Truth Be Told :
1. Democracy is not merely something enshrined in the Constitution. To EFFECT it require a few elements.
Example, let's say Kim Jong now announce he has enshrined democracy in its Constitution. And if not mistaken, NKorea is on paper a democracy. But EFFECTIVELY it is a dictatorship. Disclaimer : I not saying sg is a dictatorship. Why? One of the reasons is it's politically incorrect to say so.
So, I easily educated Singaporeans that :
1. DEMOCRACY is not effected just because it's enshrined in the Constitution.
What is not democracy or not an effective democracy is not necessarily a dictatorship.
My point is, we should clearer define what is the present model. Either it is Democracy or it is not. But layman language allows blurring of the lines. It allows incorrect definitions. What is the correct model for SG and what is and has been the mindset of the Singapore majority. Kia Su, Kia si, Kia chenghu , Kia bor. What does this indicate?
2. Democracy requires People PARTICIPATIOn I terms of freedom to express views without fear.
3. Courage in the People can only come from within themselves. Cow to fear, a citizen is too poor in courage to be able to afford Democracy. So, its not about Democracy being inside the Constitution or not . It's about the People having Courage or not. If People are waiting for instruction or approval to exercise their rights, they are democratically Impotent.
4. Democracy can only exist if INITIATED BY THE PEOPLE.
SOLDIERS obey instructions. They act when instructed. Democracy is not a military regiment.
Therefore, the first question we need to ask is :
1. Do majority Singaporeans have strong desire for true democracy?
Not having a true democracy does not mean it's dictatorship.
The ROOT ISSUE is the People and not the Constitution nor the PAP. The People is the weakest link. The 99% controlled.
Goliath controlled by David.
@Jk K I wonder does being educated under SG education system give Singaporeans the Wisdom to know what is wrong with the system and themselves?
PJ, please check out Peter Joseph (also PJ! LOL)'s work and literature, if you havent already... You have similar points to make about the issues of socially constructed identity and group politics, the need for people to take on more system-based views, and the painfully obscured truth of how many of our social problems are truly rooted in the economy.
Honestly I'm enlightened by this speech overall. Even though I do support WP and feel that the points he made about them in this speech are right, the fact is that progress for the opposition would have taken much more time for a breakthrough without WP. As many people have said, people in Singapore like the status quo, so it's highly unlikely for a major shift in power. If the WP chooses to so as to what he claimed 'double down on the issue of race' in Singapore, they may lose the support of the people since people in Singapore may see them as too far off left. I'm sure the WP wants to make the people's lives better so maybe they should watch this to improve and lastly, I think the PSP really has to build on it's own identity and show to the people that it is equal of if not better than PAP or WP because now, it's unique identity is not very outstanding.
Agree
It's because it's a new party so I'm guessing not many people are willing to trust or do not know about the history of the person who started the party.
What would you guys say if I say I believe the *Sgrean Identity* of themselves is they do not subscribe to Democracy per se. What they subscribed to is something yet defined clearly. Its got involves a dash of democracy but it's not Democracy. Asian values has to do with it and I do not mean it in a good way
What is the Singaporean identity? A citizen of a Democracy who is very reluctant to talk about democracy?
In short, it's the same ills derived from BELIEF system.
Those who believe in religion A cannot accept the teachings of religion B.
Vice versa.
Both religions, however , are for good of humanity.
And not one religion can be debunked by the other.
Neither can prove the Truth.
So they base on Believing.
Likewise, one party believes it's policies are the only right policies and no other policies are possible for SG such that similar success or results can be achieved. Or a better success or result is deemed not possible even though this cannot be proven absolutely.
This is borne out of Bias and intellectual dishonesty.
Many solutions can solve the same problem.
A platform, for intellectual sophistry, to waste everybody time, basically. It is written, you can’t add to it nor take away what has been written. Often, the problem lies with certified eggheads.
WP smells like controlled opposition.
This risk exists for all opposition. The People must watch over them and voice up when it's necessary and if WP LO turns out to be sold, then we must replace him
PJ you are a good orator and definitely a good actor ! Let's see whether Singaporean believe in your talk or put you to shame by voting you out. Action speaks louder than words. You have the choice to stay out of this land since you have so much negatives of the ruling government voted by grateful Singaporean. Mai holian ! Action man ! From grateful citizen none political partisen.
Dear PJ thank you for time speaking to the public about changing Government which is easy than done. PAP has been there since they formed Government. Every election PAP used the same method as per last election & ppl returned them to Government. But, honestly they not too bad bad & don’t think all the ppl are stupid voting a party that harm their interests. PJ think of a plan that really hit hard on the PAP’s policy that that really defeat them otherwise it is saying is easier than done.
most singapore voters are short sighted and in comfort zone for too long till they are too lazy to think of getting involved in politics.
Sorry, although this guy spoke very well, it is not a good representation of what my vote stood for.
I voted PAP because the opposition candidate in my SMC was inferior in many ways. For instance, qualifications and the experience the candidate has is important to me. Furthermore, it is also important to me that the candidate is approachable and I want to see that this candidate cares about what I want. In my SMC, the opposition candidate did not even appear in my neighbourhood except one day during the election week. Whereas, the PAP candidate, I already met him and talk to him more than 7 times before the elections was even called for. So clearly I voted for the guy that I know I can approach and get help from instead of voting for someone who never ever appeared before except for 1 day during the election week. It is also clear that I voted based on the candidate and NOT NATIONALISM.
The dislikes came from the PAP supporters.
I personally believe that PJ have the intuitive wisdom recited in his fathom long body and Nowhere Else,
He simply stated the truth and nothing else but the Truth,, it's up to individual to see beyond self and Politic's,"*,IF, I said IF*"only that can happen on a large scale,, then there is hope for Singapore Singaporeans Lah 🇸🇬 what say you lah
I seriously do not think an average Singaporean would name your three prescribed (or the PAP’s as you claimed) ideas as our national identity. When they vote, it is all about livelihood, jobs, upward mobility, education, and public safety that they have in mind. Towards these ends, the government and PAP have delivered successfully to the envy of many countries. We have consistently ranked amongst the highest in many performance matrix internationally.
The test is you stand for election and campaign on the platform that you propagate. The final vote count will attest to the truth.
Singapore is successful due to the good efforts and truthfulness of our past ministers in the 70s - 90s, not the efforts of current ministers.
Like to sneak in a thought I like viewers to consider :
1. The Claim that Singapore succeeded without Natural resources. I like to prove this is not true. It glorifies someone only.
*Debunk this:*
A. Is a ROCK a natural resource? Yes.
B. Is an Island made of Rock a natural resource? Yes
C. Is sg island made of rock a natural resource a creation of nature? Yes
D. Is the geographic location of Singapore the natural resource an attribute of the natural resource?
E. Can this Attribute exist without the Natural resource? No. They are two of the same. They are mutually dependent for their existence. The island SG if located elsewhere is not SG. The location cannot be where it is if not for the existence of the natural resource that is the island.
F. Can PSA attract the same high number of maritime traffic if not for where sg is located? If sg were in mainland of China, no ships will go there because it's not coastal. SG can do other things in that scenario of course but the ships of the world will not have visited SG even if Elvis Presley were the pm. One may argue, the ships could have berthed at Malaysia opposite SG. True. Sg performed or executed better . But what is my point here? Which comes first? Even if Einstein were our PM , so many ships of the world would not have come to our ports. There could be a few ships but not this volume.
G. Could SG ports have prospered the way it did if not for the natural resource? If not could SG have prospered the way it did without the sg port?
Conclusion:
SG is blessed with natural resource worth it's weight in oil.
@Morning Coffee As I had suggested , the port prosperity could have gone to Malaysia but SG did a better job. But if she were an island elsewhere the same number of ships would not have visited for the same purposes because that's the most economical route. This is despite who is the leader. So, yes competence is a factor but without the geographic location it would have been a different port.
can you eat rocks? only D makes sense and it has done wonders for singapore. our biggest resource was the people , shaped by the early govt to work hard. we were told
Nobody owes us a living . time and again we were told 'not to rest on our laurels. HOW DO YOU think we had so much reserves? but now the very people are at a disadvantage becasue the govt prefers to bring in unchecked numbers of foreigners who enjoy the fruits of our labour....what we have built
@@jessiejames7492 Although I am all for Glorification of SG by saying sg succeeded without AnY natural resource, if I were honest and true to the teachings I was given, I have to admit SG succeeded PRECISELY because of its Natural Resources and that includes Human resources which you rightly pointed out. But language is art which allows lawyers to earn insane and obscene amount of money. It allows it to be spoken loosely, metaphorically and flip it like prata
Before British time All Singaporean ega 55 retire they can have all CPF money for them self, Gevorment never keep a CPF money even a dollar's because they know all Singaporean, work hard till they reach to 55 of ega, so British Government, give to retire Singaporean, all their CPF money, they can enjoy with all their family, so every body be happy with the CPF money they, receive from the Gorvement, that is their hard own money,they wait till their ega of 55, Why the Singapore Gorvement must keep the money for Singaporean, and they have to work again till they die, so they can not have
good time with their family, this not easy money for them, I do not think they, can made
99 million dollar for 1 year,excuse me thank you
Papies always say they always get best candidate honest reliable able durable, but after election few of them play punk on their own capacity, all Singaporean noes that, all oppositions r bad not truthful, low grades alahhhh of things they cannot handle
now seniors also cant get jobs!
"opinions expressed in this speech are PJ's personal views and are 'NOT ENDORSED' by the Progress Singapore Party." Contradictory? He is speaking under the PSP's banner. His present status came from a conducive environment provided by the country that has grown from strength to strength even with the pandemic going on.
It's not really contradictory. He is invited to speak to the PSP not speak for them. The ability to invite speakers to speak opinions that may not be fully in line with your organization's stance is demonstrative of the organization's ability to accept differing view points.
@@gabrielsoo2939 - "to speak to the PSP not speak for them" - telling PSP what to do to win votes? or speaking behind a PSP's veil?
@@tkyap2524 sorry i totally do not understand what you are trying to imply. PSP is looking to PJ as a campaign coach? or asking PJ to represent them? But i can say it the disclaimer is fairly common where organizations invite speakers to speak at various occasions. so tinfoil hat away!
@@gabrielsoo2939 - A disclaimer is merely to absolve oneself of responsibility but the Court may see it differently. Why invite someone to speak when you have no confidence in what he is going to say. To me the disclaimer appears that PSP is distancing itself from him.
The Worker party has adopted the right strategy by being moderate during the past elections. if they are too radicals they would not have won10 seats. Looking at SDP and PV, they have failed to win any seats. SDP realised it and in recent elections they have moderate their tone.
However having said that in the next election in 2025, they could adopt a more combative style with the PAP because the PAP failing to manage the country economy. Changing circumstances need changing strategy. Perhaps Lim Tean strategy might work in 2025
Being outspoken is not 'radical'. Please stop using this word on some opposition parties.
@@farrahkong1998 ok
@Farrah Kong Many of these parties like PV and SDP proposals are too radical for most singaporeans to accept....
WP is FRP= Free Rider Party. Suits Singaporeans
WP is FRP= Free Rider Party. Suits Singaporeans
There isn't a replacement yet cause nobody is hungry yet talk only
Too chim for me. Need more layman term for me. XD
Go Kopitiam. The ah peks can explain in laymen terms.
PJ is good...well spoken
Why are they laughing when PJ said his pronounce are he/him? Lack of professionalism?
If Singaporean care about their childrens and Grandchildren,they have to think about their furture, try to change,if only 5 years if they also no good any time can change, think about that thank you
I do not think that there is a need to recast a new system to replace the current one altogether. The present system still works to a large extent, and can, by and large, deliver.
The system is derived from a Westminster form of pluralist democracy predicated upon universal sufferage.
The objections from the populace are not per sé against the system. Rather, the disgruntlement is with the several parts of the system that have been maligned, or in short, broken.
The country's mission statements call for a fairer, more equal and just democracy. The current adjusted political system adopted by today's leaders will not deliver a just, equal and democratic Singapore.
All the main Opposition parties should have a common objective to repair a broken system and to provide alternative political leadership to enable the nation bring truth to its existing mission statements recited daily though the voices of the country's school children.
All this starts with opposition adhesion and dedication to common opposition political objectives. Routes may differ, but return to sound principles of governance must form the common bond.
The populace must be educated to understand that Singapore has a broken system in dire need of repair.
Yea, im on the broken side not entire overhaul.
Why is he standing besides the PSP now. I thought he had taken the side of Mahathir and Malaysia? He cannot be trusted. Where his loyalty lies? Singapore or Malaysia?
Please explain:
What is 'the side of Mahathir and Malaysia? Do you mean they are our enemy? Are we in war with Malaysia? What is your definition of loyalty? PAP doesn't like Mahathir, so he is our enemy? Who defines 'who's is our enemy'?
Michael Lee you're believing everything the mainstream media says... Mahathir was never our enemy... He's from Malaysia a malay dominated country. Someone who has a different view does not mean an adversary. Like PJ. He was never there to subvert the government.
@@WalterKluwers When since I mentioned Mahathir is Singapore Enemy? Don't put words into my mouth. He supprted Mahathir against our govt. That's tentamount to betrayal. How can Singaporeans trust such a person?
Yes you did not say but you implied. Maybe I am wrong? PAP doesn't like Mahathir.....you don't like Malaysia? If Mahathir is not the enemy then he was just meeting with them to try to further the cause of democracy in Singapore. You are saying we cannot trust PJ because he "stood in the side of Mahathir and Malaysia. Any acticle to support your claim that he supported Malaysia against our govt? What is side of Malaysia?.. Is he trying to collude with Malaysia to overthrow our government?. This does not amount to betrayal, does it? And don't tell me Singapore is democratic
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You are insulting people who voted for the PAP. We are not without values and don't just vote blindly. Granted PAP are no way near the perfect government we want but can't imagine what we get
if you are in charge.
Cancel Jay
I suggest that you to listen to the speech again with an open mind. PJ did not once suggest that PAP voters are "without values". Indeed, he mentioned that the PAP operates on three core tenets/fundamental principles, namely 1) the people have privileges and not rights; 2) politics as rule by a moral and technocratic elite; and 3) policies are technocratic and "value-neutral" and not a product of a contestation of values and ideas. To credibly refute his claims, you can either (a) argue that his three characterizations of the PAP are inaccurate/do not reflect PAP's style of governance; or (b) show why we should stick to PAP's three core tenets of governance.
We really need more constructive discourse in times like these and people like PJ should not be pilloried simply because they are opposed to the establishment.
@jay tan govt dog
@@taeyeonist1462 yeah brudder....Jay is a traitor. An enemy of the true blue Singaporeans.
Do u guys know that PJ have swam across english channel? The english channel is so freaking cold n freezing n yet pj did it in record time.
He also set world record. U know back in 2005 Lee hsien loong even respected PJ and praised him?
N fast forward to last year the shanmugan he was so stifiled by pj that during the questioning he kept asking PJ yes or no question without giving PJ a chance to express himself. That's how afraid sg top lawyer is of our Singapore son Pj.
I'm so proud of our man.
Why do we still have dogs trying to tell us that a certain single person could ruin Singapore and that we all must kick him or her out of our system? Why these dogs still employ bullying tactics? Why these dogs still think that we are stupid?
PJ Thum talks too much is afraid to run for opposition. PSP NMP are rather useless asking trivial questions in Parliament about DBS CEO nationality. National bread and butter issues are much more important like cancelling CECA!
N u?what good r u other than being a negative keyboard warrior ?
You're trying to tell Singaporeans not to ask big questions and narrow our minds. Try harder next time.
CECA is jus a smaller problem abt FT immigration...
At least he speaks eloquently with much conviction n infact better than many yes men supposed to be a voice in d Parliament for all Singaporeans but unfortunately it's not d way as being perceived by many.
What are u good for? Commenting crap? Cancel CECA??? Jealous of them being better than you? Even PAP thinks they are better than u kind of people.
Why talk until so complicated? To make it simple, lky take Singapore from third world to first world. If not for him you think you still get the eduction to be doctor?! I think high chance with your attitude you will end up in street selling pirated dvd and chewing gum if not for him. If you not happy, move out, find a country and build your own way of governance. Or atleast wait for Singapore turn from first world to third world then you can step in and take charge. You can’t just step in and stealing pap hard work because that is also not fair!
The one who is stealing PAP's hard Work is WP that will be A Leader by Following PAP's Footsteps or Being a FR=Free Rider.
Lmfao. Lky is dead. The current ruling should not have free pass. You boomers holding sg back.
You are pure gong gong. go get in the grave beside LKY and sleep beside him. You don’t even know how LKY manipulated and controlled the older generations. U must be a YP.
All theoretical.Usual Rethorics of opposition parties with nothing better to offer.
You really have a very small brain...
@@farrahkong1998 - only people with small brains are easily influenced and impressed by others ....notwithstanding whether what they say!
I can hear a PAP doggie barking for it’s master.
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