The Show With PJ Thum - Episode 2 - How Singapore’s Elections are Structurally Unfair
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 มี.ค. 2020
- For some reason, Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong wants to call an election in the middle of the coronavirus crisis. Historian Thum Ping Tjin ("PJ") comments on this and explains how the electoral system is deeply unfair. It is designed to maximise the seats and votes for the governing People's Action Party (PAP), and the point of the system is to legitimise PAP rule, not to reflect popular will or ensure democracy.
Subtitles available: English, 简体中文 (simplified Chinese), Bahasa Melayu (Malay).
N.B.: This video was filmed 28 January 2020, and so predates the new electoral boundaries of the EBRC Report of 13 March 2020. The new Report, sadly, reinforces the arguments made in the video. The introductory segment was filmed 26 March 2020.
The list of countries which have postponed elections (and a shorter list of those which have not postponed) is at www.idea.int/news-media/multi....
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Dr. PJ, please just join the opposition parties in the next election, I will vote u into the parliament. Singapore needs more smart guys like you, rather than those so-called 'pap elites' carefully nurtured in SAF, Keppel, Temasek and more....
You are a hero of our time. Exposing the deliberately obscure, putting yourself out to the unfair criticism of the 50 cent army, and elevating the quality of discourse from the bottom of the barrel arguments too often found in SG politics. You have sparked some hope in a fellow Singaporean, and I believe many others too. Keep fighting!
You are Singapore’s very own John Oliver!
Better.... Jon Stewart!
Can definitely see he is inspired by their formats but he definitely is lacking on comedic delivery. But still the best in Singapore at this!
John oliver and jon stewart are horrible democrat shills, do not compare them with him
their gerrymandering is so obvious. I don't know why people still can't see through them.
Oh they see it. They just have the PAP carrot so far up their ass they choose to ignore it.
Becos 70% are sheeples.
Thank you PJ, your presentation is very needed to give the SGPs an educated choice in the coming GE. Voters must understand what is a fair and just GE and demand their solemn right to it.
Thank you! - PJ
1988 seems to be the year they just started boldly changing things openly with the change in open debate of boundaries and grc system.
I lost it when you start to sing the list of countries that postponed their elections HAHAHHAA
Also, the GRC issue highlighted did not age well lol (coughs Ivan Lim coughs)
Not postponing the elections is advantageous. for the ruling party at his virus crisis . The people dare not vote for change with all the goodies and relief handed out in the relief package.
The package is the "Ah Long" loan shark strategy, you will be paying for it for the rest of your life.
They just want a Blank Cheque. Last election mandate of 69.9% is not enough to assuage their greed. Now they want more, and also want to capitalize on the covid-19 hysteria, to rip off more from the citizens of Singapore.
Think we really need a reset, not issue blank cheque.
What people don't realise it the money they are getting is public money not PAP personal monies. To vote for a party because of your own money being given back to you is stupid. Vote based on your own conscience and not fear or obligation. Don't be bodoh
@@peterherd8251 Majority of Singaporeans have this 'small farmer' mindset ,small term gains are enough for them be contended and ignore long term concerns. Like farmers and fishermen in the past , they cared less which chinese dynasty or sultnate as long as their harvest were plentiful.
@@davidong9458 slave mentality. As long as have shelter and some meals provided, they don't care about anything else and won't ask too many questions.
The "ELECTIONS TMR? WHO MY MP SIA" meme had me in stitches! 😂😂😂
the jurong grc names seriously got me at first 😤😤
Sir PJ 加油！谢谢你👍🏻
Power!!! 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
We need to get message like this to more people. Everybody should know these.
Hi PJ,
Any comment on whether you've any plans in the future to stand for election?
Thank you.
Please continue to enrich us
Oppositions in Singapore. Don't forget the many foreigners who were given citizenship over the past ten years will vote for the ruling party. Oppositions how to win?
It is because PAP have the interests of All citizens and even future generations at heart, but the oppositions do not, they are short sighted and oppose for the sake of opposing.
Welcome back.
Thank you! - PJ
Welcome back! 👍🙏
Thank you! - PJ
If i share ur videos will i kena or not?
Btw where is is episode 1
I know lky not angel. But at least he makes the tough decision for the better bigger picture,not personal pocket, maybe ego but not pocket? Imho i think He really wanted to move sg forward...
Like how things are explained and use back real examples to reflect the point... Keep up the good work. Current and future voters need it to understand from different perspective/ lens and let them judge for themselves.
Thank you! - PJ
Can this be made available on your Spotify? Thank you!
You mean, make the video available on Spotify? Does Spotify do video? Or do you mean just the audio, like a podcast?
@@NewNaratif I think he means podcast. Can you release on Apple podcasts as well. Good content, especially your 1st video. Excellent deconstruction of the arbitrary racial constructs in Singapore society there.
@@tusharsingh4543 Done, the audio has been released on our "Political Agenda" podcast. Thanks for the support!
the foreshadowing is real
I love you sir. Youre just the wakeup slap we need. Fun fir the family! Yet important!
I just realised why HDB has a minimum 5 year tenancy before you can sell!... LOL
Why?
"In Singapore, constituencies seem to be huge Frankenstein monsters, stitched together with no descendible purpose, other than to confuse us and make us doubt our own sanity". Creative analogy 😂😂😂
Thank you! - PJ
Quality content.
Thank you! - PJ
Hi PJ, big fan of your videos. I graduated Secondary school recently and wished social studies in secondary school gave me insights like this. I have a question to put out based on my knowledge (or rather lack thereof).It seems like based on your claims, it would seem wiser for the opposition to form a coalition party to combat the unfairness in our electoral system. Do you agree?
okay, but are the arms of your glasses upside down?? it BUGS me, i cannot stop looking at it i need to know why they're upside down
PLEASE LOOK INTO AND COMPARE
ALL THE PENSION FUND INTEREST RATES
IN ASEAN COUNTRIES
ESPECIALLY IN COMPARISON WITH
MALAYSIA EPF
INDONESIA
ALSO
WHY MALAYSIAN AND INDONESIAN CURRENCIES WITH LOWER EXCHANGE RATES
CAN AFFORD TO PAY VERY MUCH MORE DECENT INTEREST RATES ?？?？
Love this man. He is funny, cute, lovable, intelligent, real man, knows the truth, speak the truth. Surely, The Creator of heaven and earth will keep him in pleasant remembrance.
WORLD CLASS VIDEO
BETTER THAN
ALL SINGAPORE MEDIA
With the introduction of POFMA, perhaps one "good" side-effect is that video content (even in parts) such as this can be deemed to be "true", since it's not been POFMA-ed after being online some time. Being on the fence with my vote, I appreciate contents like these to be laid out bravely for the uninformed to process and consider. And just before any camp's supporter (whichever side you're on) comment that I'm being misled or intoxicated, blah blah... do note and be assured I'm also reading up contents from other camps - the conclusion to be drawn will be personal to each of us. One common "take-away" from the PAP supporters I found is on the notion of a "lack of talent, proposals, experiences... from the opposition parties" - to that I'll suggest them to spend some time listening to the many interviews and speeches from BOTH parties so as to draw an informed conclusion - if only there are more campaigning time given for them to share their worthiness instead of the short 9 days given in all recent elections. Finally, I'll like to share this thought (not my original but one which I agree) - "The motivations of the talented have changed. Those from the founding generation stepped up to serve knowing without them, there will not be a Singapore. It's for the survival of the nation, the people and their families. Yes, they had other more lucrative options e.g. family businesses, but these will be nothing without a country. The talented from later generations take peace, stability and continuity for granted; it's a given - Singapore will go on with or without them serving. So, they would rather focus on the more lucrative professions and not enter into the public domain. Honestly, I don't blame the talented for not stepping up." For the "talented" out there running successful private companies and attributing it to the stability and goodness of what Singapore has been, ask yourself why then do you not step up to contribute to the betterment of Singapore in the politics now? And then what are the possible motivations of those few talents who are indeed stepping up now?
If u still have to read up on both side in this time, u already sheeple/brainwashed enough.
Since i got out of school and have internet access, i alr start to see the bs.
The BEST CANDIDATE for the MINISTER for EDUCATION in Singapore is DR PJ THUM.....period......and he should also be nominated for recognition by @t............
Awesome!
Thank you! - PJ
Dr. Thum explains the election system in Singapore (and elsewhere) precisely, cogently. I have never believed in voter shaming, and Dr. Thum puts across the argument why the 69.9% is not to blame convincing! A great job, Dr. Thum.
They r to blame. If they are informed we can still vote oppo for the sake of weakening pap.
@@RonLarhz by all means. To each his own, but I think each has a right to vote for whom he or she wants in a democracy. I mean everyone has a right to be an idiot, and so if 69.9% of the population choose to be... you know what I mean. I just don't do voter-shaming regardless of how I feel, but I'm not imposing on anyone.
A very John oliver style of presentation
As a Malaysian, I am intrigued to know how Singaporeans vote for GRC? You vote one candidate or you vote the party that consisted a certain amount of MPs in the GRC?
Each party contesting the GRC puts up a team of 3-6 candidates. You vote once, by picking which team of candidates you want to win. So for the winning team, it's all or nothing. For more detail, see our Explainer on Singapore's Electoral System: newnaratif.com/research/explainer-how-singapores-electoral-system-works/
But how do PAP knows who will vote them? Even tho they redraw it?
They can find out in the last 4 to 5 years the grounds covered by the opposition and break up or take away these grounds into another constituency.
Other countries limit their president or PM to one or two-terms. How come this policy the PAP didn't follow?
Why so, if pm is doing good?
@@user-hu3oc7hf6v except he isn't.
PJ，加油吧
IS THE SINGAPORE SUPPLY CHAIN
COMPLETELY RIGGED
OR OLIGOPOLIZED ? ? ? ?
MANY CHEAPER PRICED PRODUCTS WITH HIGHER QUALITY
ARE NOT AVAILABLE IN SINGAPORE
BUT ARE SOLD IN THE USA AND AUSTRALIA ? ? ? ?
True
We need a proportional system!
While political parties are not expected to invite or promote competition, governments and electoral systems are expected to do so. The issue arises when a party or politicians use their power within government to their benefit themselves and attack opposition. This is why parliaments all over the world are out of session during campaign season. This spirit is missing and is impacting the health of democracy in Singapore.
21:25 - pinching John Oliver's jokes. hahaha
Hey man, unbutton your jacket when you’re seated. If possible also raise the table. Your arms should be resting on the table not the chair. Makes you more engaging and its much more pleasing to the eyes :) Love the content tho.
Hi Yasmeen, thanks for the tip. The reason my hands have to rest on the chair is because I'm controlling the teleprompter and camera remotely and the remotes are in the drawer below the table. So no way I can raise my hands I'm afraid! I'll think about unbuttoning my jacket but it's not a tailored jacket and I have broad shoulders so I've found unbuttoning the jacket makes the lower half of the jacket move around too much. Still, will give it a try. Thanks! - PJ
An Animaniacs reference here of all places? Nice lah
FOREIGN RECRUITERS
OFTEN REJECTED THE SINGAPOREAN APPLICANTS
WHO HAD SPOT ON FIT IN ALL REQUIREMENTS
ON ONE IDIOT EXCUSE
THAT SINGAPOREAN APPLICANTS ARE
OVER-QUALIFIED # # # #
WHEN THE SINGAPOREAN APPLICANTS
ACCEPTS THE FULL TERMS INCLUDING THE OFFERED SALARY
ADVERTISED # # # #
CONFLICT OF INTEREST
IS A CRIME
IN OTHER COUNTRY ? ? ?
Short and simply you couldn’t do anything to what they have plan
Dr PJ should join WP😊😊😊
Arrow's impossibility theorem
Who else can we vote for in Singapore's elections? Are there any socialist parties equivalent to the UK labour party under Corbyn for example?
Many of the opposition parties have put out detailed platforms with well thought out plans. I suggest reading through their websites to see which of them might suit you?
@@NewNaratif I think Worker's party might be a good start for me. I'll have a look at their platform. Thanks!
Are you dreaming? The PAP is democratic socialist. The subsidised education, housing and large civil service proves it. Only that nationalised companies in utilities, shipping, shipyards etc has to be privatised in the late 80s and 90s due to falling productivity.
Citizens are free to work for private and public sector in any job that values their talents and skillset, right?
If you are hoping the Opposition will give your lazy ass more welfare and free HDB, then dream on.
@@scbchong6964 PAP is neoliberal with social democratic policies in a market economy. They're definitely not socialist because they don't advocate for workers owning the means of production.
@@tusharsingh4543 Nonsense. Citizens are free to purchase stocks in any listed companies. Plus anyone is free to set up any business and earn profits. And keep those profits. What kind of Utopia you think Opposition parties can give you if you don't want to work to the best of your talents and abilities?
i agree this is unfair but it is normal for those who is in power to stay in power.
i don't like it but what to do?
We can resist. Spread awareness of injustice to your friends and family and colleagues; organise petitions; organise people to protest in different ways; write to those in power and demand answers and a response; seek to hold those in power accountable. If you'd like to discuss more, please come to our online Democracy Classroom on Tuesday 14 April: bit.ly/NNDemClassElections
@@NewNaratifDo they have a Black Book to Blacklist people. can't get govt. jobs a real fear.?
PURCHASING POWER
IS CRITICAL TO CITIZENS' STANDARD OF LIVING
WHY THE STRONGEST ASEAN SGD
HAS THE LOWEST PURCHASING POWER IN SINGAPORE
LEADING TO THE HIGHEST COST OF LIVING IN SINGAPORE
AND WORST STANDARD OF LIVING IN SINGAPORE ? ? ? ?
SINGAPORE PARLIAMENT
IS JUST A FOLLOWER
OR A COPY CAT ? ? ? ?
选举应该是公正，平等.....。
权力，金钱... ..会冲昏人的头脑。干出一些不理性的事来，结果对不起人民的一生！
所谓君子是绝对不会干小人的事，以免遗臭万年！
人生短短几十年，即 然要从政，先问自己是要为人民的生活操心，还是为了金钱，权力......
请三思！
You should join a credible party and go for GE. SG needs folks like you. WP ain’t doing their jobs , and are mediocre !
WP scared to be sued till their pants drop even though Sylvia don't wear pants.
Ok
👍👍👍👍👍❤️
Dr Tham, am I qualified for the position of the President of Singapore.?
Can talk to you
if the people really feel it is unfair for the people who set the exams sits for the exams, they can always disqualify them, but why didn't they? granted there everyone wields a free vote? can u fairly answer this question by not just trying to get away with a one-sided anecdote? Lol
💪💪💪💪💪
Singapore has no stamina. The best quote from this vid. Singapore politics is also not colourful as compared to other countries. Blame the Singapore media and thank god we now have TH-cam and Facebook.😂
I pray you don't get pofmo. You have giant balls and lots of zeros in your bank account than most pmets.
Oh, didn't know USA is postponing. And I thought Israel went ahead?
Most of the states in the USA chose to postpone; Some, like Wisconsin, went ahead. I didn't mention Israel, because they did go ahead. - PJ
Honestly, since when has Singaoore been a democracy?
Since when has any democracy been a democracy 🤣
Till one can differenciate a democracy and republic, one will always be in tgis endless lobe 🤣
Obviously you have never read the national pledge
Are you the lone ranger over there!!??
Singaporeans got no stamina hehe :-)
Who set the stamina tho
Care of your allegations ....
I agree with PJ but there are some points I would like to mention: 1) The main problem is that opposition parties currently are still incapable and hence not popular among the masses. They are unable to produce results (WP) and the way they do not present themselves as a first-world government. 2) Although countries in SEA have more democratic election procedures and longer election duration, their country are still not doing as well as SG and many prominent social,political and economical issues are still unresolved. Incapable and corrupted governance!
Fallacious arguments.
How do you demand a comparison for results when one party has had no chance to show any kind of results?
How well a government does is not caused by it's level of corruption.
Please remove your spectacles hooks. Makes u look wierd, like an alien. Otherwise, everything else is good.
Pls get rid of that introductory segment dashing from Cambridge to Singapore. It’s loud, irritating, no value add n not funny at all. many a times I switched off at that segment. This is supposed to be a serious forum discussing SGP politics? So pls save all the antics. You’ll attract more audience.
Nice try Mr PJ Thun! .Let the public form their own decisions according to their comfort zone. Whatever fruits you sow tasted sour at different degrees...it is sweet only to those shared your thoughts. A pity that a lot of childish narratives only made me quiver.
Can you be less drama in the way you present? Stop smiling too much. Remove the “smart alec” look from your face. Look more considered and serious. Speak in a more measured and low key tone. In this way you will come across as more credible.
and saying this makes you more credible? the content of his message speaks for itself... yours however, only concerns with appearance? if PJ thum pisses me off from his presentation, people like you just make me lose hope in humanity all together.
He is not a smart alec. He is smart AF and he swam across the English channel! LMAO
For those citizens demanding "change" and more "creativity" from pap govt, you should reflect on perhaps it is you haters who need to change your mindset. Stop automatically jump to conclusions that every policy from pap is malicious and hurtful to citizens.
Also, not everyone who oppose pap and promise more "freedom" and "change" is automatically more moral, more honest, better at governing. Don't you understand that these are charlatans who want to make you dependent on their promises.
And if you think that a "coalition" govt is great, ask yourself what is the vested interest of the Opposition if they get elected. Coalition means some Opposition will be in Cabinet positions. Won't they place their cronies in positions of power and call in favours from supporters? And won't they fire certain senior civil servants to build their empire? How can you expect full cooperation and harmony from each side which are opposed in interests and loyalties?
Like LKY warned: coalition will bring at least 8 years of quarreling, chaos and policy stagnation. Your family can afford that? Singapore can afford that?
Which do you belong to? a parrot, a sheeple, or a well-fed dog serving your flawless master?
@@lifejourney08 I am well-fed but don't work in sg civil service. Own my business in private sector. I am well-fed due to excellent sustainable govt policies and infrastructure. Nothing built by Opposition or BS clowns like PJ.
As for you, you are likely a Parrot. Blindly aping the West leftists who demand absolute personal freedom without responsibility to others and society. I think you are looking for a "hero" in PJ.
And you not smart enough to be Sheeple because you would already be making same nonsensical noises as the Opposition supporters.
@@scbchong6964 PJ is not a politician. And base on what you say, why do we need election at all?
@@scbchong6964 You own business in private sector? May I know how you pay a normal Singaporean or you just hire own family in name and hire foreigners with little wage? See, if a normal Singaporean were to have a healthy life , a single person will need to earn at least $3500. There are many Bosses that say need wages to be low so that price will not go up. There is even a video saying $1800 is all we need and be grateful about it. let me ask you, if your child is only paid $1800.00, how you feel? The main problem is rental is expensive. Why the hell does every building(HDB included) include land cost?
coalition is not what Singaporean who vote opp wants. What we want is not a total power for PAP, a OPP that can veto policy that harm normal Singaporeans. CECA, Filipinos and Malaysian are depressing wages, or taking away Jobs that normal Singapore Grad can do. There are many cases of training a foreigner(Indians) and getting sack, later to find out that guy got in with more pay and from some India unknown uni and cannot do work properly. PAP are making lots of money in India, which does not benefit Singaporean.
This guy is smart? Yes. His proposal will make Singapore better? No, will more like to be Hong Kong.