Or just plain forget about it. According to the writers, the Tria, the Aurora from "The Return" two-parter was simply left in space abandoned. Like seriously? Earth at this point has maybe three operational ships and is needing to deal with not just the Wraith, but the Ori, and they just left a mostly intact Ancient ship sitting around?
for a galaxy spanning civilization at war for over 100 years there is a destinct lack of arms and zpm production found or mentioned in general. If they were under seige in atlantis for years, you'd assume they can manufacture their own ordinance on sight. But ofc, story wise, just throwing zpm powered and drone armed space ships at every problem would get kinda old.
@@DarkWardancer It's telling that the wraith never found those facilities because they would have had that tech. The wraith also clearly never captured an Aurora. It would make sense that there isn't much to find if they tried to keep the wraith away from using their tech against them which is the worst thing that could happen if the series finale was anything to go by.
@@simondj8572 True. Tho part of the charm of the Ancients was their similarity to 1950’s mad scientists. That like old 50s sci-fi movies the mad scientists all have randomly advanced technology unseen anywhere else, only to disappear or be shunned after the mad scientist’s creation come run amok. Then many… many, many… years later some random adventures stumble across the long buried mistakes of ancient mad scientist, causing them to awaken and return to their path of destruction once again. If the Ancients had homogeneous technology everywhere you found them, it would limit the possible mad scientist stories.
Always founf it strange the ancients invented drones but no beam weapons. Though they did have that satellite station that fired a beam powerful enough to cut a wraith hive in half.
@Daehawk I think the mindset of the lanteans was different. The drones are the ultimate projectile weapon, and they could control them with pinpoint accuracy with their minds, making them superior to directional energy weapons that could be avoided, however they did create beams like you said with the satellite but that was a large stationary weapon probably not for built for ships plus the anceints were very aragant and over confident in the technology that they probably thought the drone was all they needed
Really every ship based technology the asgard did, thr ancients already did but better. Beam weapons on the station far superior to asgard. Thr transporter tech merlin used was instantaneous almost. Asgard had a delay to it. The ancients could have won the war with the wraith and saved millions but didn't use the attero device. Had they just done that took massive losses to civilians they would have saved thousands of civilizations and countless lives in the long run.
They had many opportunities to check out Ancients database with such sites but writers of the show pretend to be blind and avoided as much as possible all the knowledge base of Atlantis.😂
@gtvishal2521 as far as I'm aware the tauri only used the orion I think building a using the 304 as a home grown ship was better than trying to fix or construct new lanteans ships as the tauri can build to there style while adding alien tech was probably easyer that way as well
I think somewhere on TH-cam I heard that it was mentioned and I wonder if I could hear more about the facility and the specifics of creation. It would be cool to find out more.
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y Yes, of course it's no fault on your side and was just a funny observation that popped into my head ^^ Made me look it up though and it's the Letter of the Canadian Aboriginal syllabary, transcribed as paai whatever that means. Although I read it as the nordic Å and that is A and O combined making it sound retarded :D say it out loud while keeping your lips pronouncing the letter o lol. and yeah I am drunk at the moment
you forgot about the internal shields in the hallways to stop hull breach's or unwanted guests show in the traveller episode but all and all very good i have a question for you who more powerful asgarde or lantean because the asgarde lived 10.000 years longer then the lantean so who tech is better ???????
@@Happydays369 I would think the lanteans have more advanced technology than the asgard as thor said to sg1 they found and are studying an anceint repository of knowledge and thor said they barly scratch the surface of the information inside possibly meaning the ancients were highly more advance even to present day asgard that's my opinion I think the only exception is the asgard plasma beam weapons
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y true but the Asgard was at work with the bugs so a lot of time when Time went to that if the wasn’t in that war and have time to just study it you think they would past the lanteans in tech
@Azurik117 you have a point, a lot of time the asgard spent fighting the replicators they could of been researching but I still think like 70% of the specific areas of technology the lanteans created was superior to the asgard but who really knows we never really saw the full might of the asgard or the lateans only small glimpse
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y ture the one thing i wish they showed us was other lantean ship yer we have the jumper and auora class ship but we never really seen a cruiser or a carrier if they was at war having 1 ship to fill the role of everything would of hindered there approach in the war what you think
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y It was indirectly shown that the Lantaens had to some degree better weapon/shield tech back then the modern day Asgard. With the fight against Anubis the Asgard could not put a dent into an Ha'tak with upgraded shields while the drone's destroyed a whole fleet of them. Though like said above the war with the replicators could have forced their hands in the tech department.
Ok maybe a basic question - but were the lanteans called that because they came from Atlantis, or did they call the city that because they were Lanteans? 🤔 Apologies if you’ve already answered this!!
@Astarael-fv7lw there were the alterans first then the lanteans then the ancients they called there planet in pegases lantea so lanteans is from the planet i would assume
@juggerknot100 The aurora has a slightly less efficient hyperdrive than the daedalus Asgard hyperdrive so it's slightly slower than the daedalus and if you include a zpm I still think its just slower still but to reach destiny 30 to 60 galaxy's out still would take a long time I guessing around the 10 to 20 year mark but that's a guess I've not worked it out out
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y So a Hive Ship is comparable to a Federation spacedock? I think a Hive Ship could take a Borg Cube and maybe the 1st Death Star. Did you see Rowan Coleman's Star Trek vs Stargate comparison on the optimism of both shows? I highly recommend his channel. th-cam.com/video/lRXEJL99Iqs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Plx5mFBsJQPdJrrb
It is more likely that ZPMs are their primary power source My guess is that Asgard beam weapons are more affective against a Lantean Aurora class ship since the technology is 10,000 years more advanced than it
@dragonweyr44 it is possible that the primary power source of the Aruora class is a zero point energy generator but theirs no info online so I speculated some sort of lantean naquadah generator instead, as if the Aruora has already zpm level of power out put why equip a zpm module at all so I think is yes a powerful power source but not zero point energy imo and yes the asgard beams are 10.000 years more advanced but compared to the anceints tech level being still far superior to the asgard in present day the asgard beams are the exception however as their are high energy plasma beams that have a sustained damage output for the length of the beam draining shield faster and cuting through ships like butter whereas most other energy weapons are generally one shot of energy plasma doing a single point of damage with a short duration impact so if you compare both types of weapons the asgard beams are a shield kryptonight for draining them quickly even 4 to 5 shots on a ori mothership cuts through the shield so the asgard beams are essentially cheats
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y I would argue that the Ancients DID use some kind of zero point energy in their Aurora class ships, whether they used ZPMs or zero point reactors or other zero point generators, I couldn't guess, but since the Atlantis class city ships run on three ZPMs, indicate that they probably DO use some kind of zero point energy I don't think that they run on ZPMs because, during the Battle of the Asuran homeworld, the Wraith went down to the planet to steal some ZPMs, they didn't go after the ships themselves. A closer target and less defendable So some kind of generator or reactor I don't think that Lanteans used naquadah in any way, for one thing, the only naquadah generators ever found in the Pegasus galaxy were the ones that the SG: Atlantis team brought with them or delivered via a BC-304. I would think that Naquadah doesn't exist in the Pegasus galaxy, nor the Ori galaxy and maybe not in the Ida galaxy either (though I can't be certain for the last one as the Asgard have stargates and they are made from naquadah. I think that the Pegasus stargates might be made of another material as they are made from a mor silvery material as opposed to the Milky Way, dark grey/black ones The Destiny stargates seem to be made from locally sourced material You could be right about Asgard beam weapons, I don't have a better argument for that
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y It is MOST likely some form of zero point energy as the Lanteans run everything on zero point energy. The Lantean Atlantis class city ships run on three ZPMs, the outposts in Antarctica and Teonass ran on a single ZPM, you need one to travel from the stargate at the SGC to Atlantis, So it is quite logical to assume that an Aurora class ship runs on zero point energy as well I don't think that it runs on ZPMs though because of what happened during the Battle of the Asuan homeworld. The wraith took the oppourtunity to steal a number of ZPMs while fighting the Asuans from the surface, not the Asuran ships in orbit This tells me that they must use zero point energy from generators or reactors rather than relying on ZPMs
@@dragonweyr44 I dont remember the episode name but it was also mentioned that the first time the wraith turned on their cloning facility it was because they stole them from lantean ships witch where power by ZPM's for that fight. not all the time. Maybe it ran on a similar tech as the Destiny and could refuel from stars ?
@@mbos14 They said that the Lanteans became overconfident and reached out further and further into the galaxy, thinning out their forces and making them more vulnerable to the wraith I think it was not only ships being attacked, but colonies as well Like the episode The Tower. which had a Atlantis class city ship, mostly buried underground with that world's elite living in the city while the peasants lived out on the fringes being wraithbait
I love how in Atlantis the writers find every excuse to destroy ancient ships because we can't have nice things.
@grandsome1 yh it was for the story can't just give us a cheat code now can they
Writers also find ways to kill off any Ancients we find. Except maybe for those engineers from Destiny in that comic book run.
Or just plain forget about it. According to the writers, the Tria, the Aurora from "The Return" two-parter was simply left in space abandoned. Like seriously? Earth at this point has maybe three operational ships and is needing to deal with not just the Wraith, but the Ori, and they just left a mostly intact Ancient ship sitting around?
I always kinda assumed Aurora class could manufacture their own drones. Especially since they are so big.
@ManicPandaz it's possible but no info to confirm this be cool though
for a galaxy spanning civilization at war for over 100 years there is a destinct lack of arms and zpm production found or mentioned in general. If they were under seige in atlantis for years, you'd assume they can manufacture their own ordinance on sight. But ofc, story wise, just throwing zpm powered and drone armed space ships at every problem would get kinda old.
@@DarkWardancer It's telling that the wraith never found those facilities because they would have had that tech. The wraith also clearly never captured an Aurora. It would make sense that there isn't much to find if they tried to keep the wraith away from using their tech against them which is the worst thing that could happen if the series finale was anything to go by.
I don't get why wouldn't they use replicator technology for self maintenance!!!
@@simondj8572 True. Tho part of the charm of the Ancients was their similarity to 1950’s mad scientists. That like old 50s sci-fi movies the mad scientists all have randomly advanced technology unseen anywhere else, only to disappear or be shunned after the mad scientist’s creation come run amok. Then many… many, many… years later some random adventures stumble across the long buried mistakes of ancient mad scientist, causing them to awaken and return to their path of destruction once again.
If the Ancients had homogeneous technology everywhere you found them, it would limit the possible mad scientist stories.
Soild. Reliable. Deadly. Atlantean tech was made to last.
Your videos need more attention man. I love your videos!
@@sharokhankhan23 thanks buddy much appreciation
Always founf it strange the ancients invented drones but no beam weapons. Though they did have that satellite station that fired a beam powerful enough to cut a wraith hive in half.
@Daehawk I think the mindset of the lanteans was different. The drones are the ultimate projectile weapon, and they could control them with pinpoint accuracy with their minds, making them superior to directional energy weapons that could be avoided, however they did create beams like you said with the satellite but that was a large stationary weapon probably not for built for ships plus the anceints were very aragant and over confident in the technology that they probably thought the drone was all they needed
Really every ship based technology the asgard did, thr ancients already did but better. Beam weapons on the station far superior to asgard. Thr transporter tech merlin used was instantaneous almost. Asgard had a delay to it.
The ancients could have won the war with the wraith and saved millions but didn't use the attero device. Had they just done that took massive losses to civilians they would have saved thousands of civilizations and countless lives in the long run.
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Id be happy to know that Aurora Class has the ability to build ot own drones. That would be a ship that wont need to resupply and can self repair.
not to sure on drone creation be interesting if both the aurora class and Atlantis can make drones but the expedition never discovered it
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Its so satisfing in the game when you start shredding goauld with them.
@DieSuper-Influencer if you are on about empire at war pegasus chronicles then yes I love lantean campaign
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y yes exactly
" if we only have a few moe of these. We can give the rath a fight."
- Colonial Shepard
“...wraith”. Just FYI.
They had many opportunities to check out Ancients database with such sites but writers of the show pretend to be blind and avoided as much as possible all the knowledge base of Atlantis.😂
I with I had such a spaceship equipped with additional replicator tech for self maintenance and Asgard's matter convector!😂
@@simondj8572 is a nice ship
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y my dream is to build one alike :)
@@simondj8572 I built one in space engineers a while back
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Great info!! Not every channel have info about Star Gate. (+Im Lanteran fanatik xD) so thanks!
thanks i try and cover everything thanks for the comment
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Humans have tech for both Asguard and ancient did they re-engineered aurora class ship at any books
@gtvishal2521 as far as I'm aware the tauri only used the orion I think building a using the 304 as a home grown ship was better than trying to fix or construct new lanteans ships as the tauri can build to there style while adding alien tech was probably easyer that way as well
Do you think you could do an episode on the newly discovered ZPM creation facility?
@@THERONINCHEF youbon about the zpm facility in atlantis is the proposed season 6 for sga or another source you reffer
I think somewhere on TH-cam I heard that it was mentioned and I wonder if I could hear more about the facility and the specifics of creation. It would be cool to find out more.
@THERONINCHEF no where in the show do they ever explore zmp creation but in the proposed 6th season there would have been a facility on atlantis
@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y I think I recall it being in a graphic novel or a story done after the show ended?
@THERONINCHEF i read much extended stuff I can't remember but earths moon is poping into my head when I think about it from the back to pegasus comics
I really hope you start editing these to clean up some of the misspoken parts. Or maybe you'll just get better speaking over time.
That Å just makes it a bit funny to me as a swede :D just reading it out loud Åurorå clåss wårship lol
@fgjfjdfghjsfghjsfj it's the stargate font dose the Å mean somthing diffrent for you ?
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y Yes, of course it's no fault on your side and was just a funny observation that popped into my head ^^
Made me look it up though and it's the Letter of the Canadian Aboriginal syllabary, transcribed as paai whatever that means.
Although I read it as the nordic Å and that is A and O combined making it sound retarded :D say it out loud while keeping your lips pronouncing the letter o lol.
and yeah I am drunk at the moment
The Lanteans should've sent the Wraith off to eat the Ori galaxy.
@mattwilson8298 that's an idea but I think the ori would win being ascended beings and all
you forgot about the internal shields in the hallways to stop hull breach's or unwanted guests show in the traveller episode but all and all very good i have a question for you who more powerful asgarde or lantean because the asgarde lived 10.000 years longer then the lantean so who tech is better ???????
@@Happydays369 I would think the lanteans have more advanced technology than the asgard as thor said to sg1 they found and are studying an anceint repository of knowledge and thor said they barly scratch the surface of the information inside possibly meaning the ancients were highly more advance even to present day asgard that's my opinion I think the only exception is the asgard plasma beam weapons
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y true but the Asgard was at work with the bugs so a lot of time when Time went to that if the wasn’t in that war and have time to just study it you think they would past the lanteans in tech
@Azurik117 you have a point, a lot of time the asgard spent fighting the replicators they could of been researching but I still think like 70% of the specific areas of technology the lanteans created was superior to the asgard but who really knows we never really saw the full might of the asgard or the lateans only small glimpse
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y ture the one thing i wish they showed us was other lantean ship yer we have the jumper and auora class ship but we never really seen a cruiser or a carrier if they was at war having 1 ship to fill the role of everything would of hindered there approach in the war what you think
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y It was indirectly shown that the Lantaens had to some degree better weapon/shield tech back then the modern day Asgard.
With the fight against Anubis the Asgard could not put a dent into an Ha'tak with upgraded shields while the drone's destroyed a whole fleet of them.
Though like said above the war with the replicators could have forced their hands in the tech department.
Ok maybe a basic question - but were the lanteans called that because they came from Atlantis, or did they call the city that because they were Lanteans? 🤔
Apologies if you’ve already answered this!!
@Astarael-fv7lw there were the alterans first then the lanteans then the ancients they called there planet in pegases lantea so lanteans is from the planet i would assume
it they have a Aurora Class ship can they use and go to destiny go to save everyone how long would it take it you know
@juggerknot100 The aurora has a slightly less efficient hyperdrive than the daedalus Asgard hyperdrive so it's slightly slower than the daedalus and if you include a zpm I still think its just slower still but to reach destiny 30 to 60 galaxy's out still would take a long time I guessing around the 10 to 20 year mark but that's a guess I've not worked it out out
How does its size compare to a typical Hive Ship?
@geographicaloddity2 a hive ship is roughly 11km long so the Aurora is about 1 4th the size of a hive
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So a Hive Ship is comparable to a Federation spacedock? I think a Hive Ship could take a Borg Cube and maybe the 1st Death Star.
Did you see Rowan Coleman's Star Trek vs Stargate comparison on the optimism of both shows? I highly recommend his channel. th-cam.com/video/lRXEJL99Iqs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Plx5mFBsJQPdJrrb
11÷25%=2.75km 😅
Wraith hive ship is 6.8miles long
Aurora is 1.7miles long
So in other words, they were massive ships😅😂😂
@@RomeGod177 similar to an ISD?
@@RomeGod177would be funny if Spaceball one was revealed to be modified Aurora class
It is more likely that ZPMs are their primary power source
My guess is that Asgard beam weapons are more affective against a Lantean Aurora class ship since the technology is 10,000 years more advanced than it
@dragonweyr44 it is possible that the primary power source of the Aruora class is a zero point energy generator but theirs no info online so I speculated some sort of lantean naquadah generator instead, as if the Aruora has already zpm level of power out put why equip a zpm module at all so I think is yes a powerful power source but not zero point energy imo and yes the asgard beams are 10.000 years more advanced but compared to the anceints tech level being still far superior to the asgard in present day the asgard beams are the exception however as their are high energy plasma beams that have a sustained damage output for the length of the beam draining shield faster and cuting through ships like butter whereas most other energy weapons are generally one shot of energy plasma doing a single point of damage with a short duration impact so if you compare both types of weapons the asgard beams are a shield kryptonight for draining them quickly even 4 to 5 shots on a ori mothership cuts through the shield so the asgard beams are essentially cheats
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y I would argue that the Ancients DID use some kind of zero point energy in their Aurora class ships, whether they used ZPMs or zero point reactors or other zero point generators, I couldn't guess, but since the Atlantis class city ships run on three ZPMs, indicate that they probably DO use some kind of zero point energy
I don't think that they run on ZPMs because, during the Battle of the Asuran homeworld, the Wraith went down to the planet to steal some ZPMs, they didn't go after the ships themselves. A closer target and less defendable So some kind of generator or reactor
I don't think that Lanteans used naquadah in any way, for one thing, the only naquadah generators ever found in the Pegasus galaxy were the ones that the SG: Atlantis team brought with them or delivered via a BC-304. I would think that Naquadah doesn't exist in the Pegasus galaxy, nor the Ori galaxy and maybe not in the Ida galaxy either (though I can't be certain for the last one as the Asgard have stargates and they are made from naquadah.
I think that the Pegasus stargates might be made of another material as they are made from a mor silvery material as opposed to the Milky Way, dark grey/black ones
The Destiny stargates seem to be made from locally sourced material
You could be right about Asgard beam weapons, I don't have a better argument for that
@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y It is MOST likely some form of zero point energy as the Lanteans run everything on zero point energy. The Lantean Atlantis class city ships run on three ZPMs, the outposts in Antarctica and Teonass ran on a single ZPM, you need one to travel from the stargate at the SGC to Atlantis, So it is quite logical to assume that an Aurora class ship runs on zero point energy as well
I don't think that it runs on ZPMs though because of what happened during the Battle of the Asuan homeworld. The wraith took the oppourtunity to steal a number of ZPMs while fighting the Asuans from the surface, not the Asuran ships in orbit
This tells me that they must use zero point energy from generators or reactors rather than relying on ZPMs
@@dragonweyr44 I dont remember the episode name but it was also mentioned that the first time the wraith turned on their cloning facility it was because they stole them from lantean ships witch where power by ZPM's for that fight. not all the time.
Maybe it ran on a similar tech as the Destiny and could refuel from stars ?
@@mbos14 They said that the Lanteans became overconfident and reached out further and further into the galaxy, thinning out their forces and making them more vulnerable to the wraith
I think it was not only ships being attacked, but colonies as well
Like the episode The Tower. which had a Atlantis class city ship, mostly buried underground with that world's elite living in the city while the peasants lived out on the fringes being wraithbait
Just out of interest, are you from Plymouth?
@alexwesley6829 south West Somerset UK 🇬🇧