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@johnmiller4859 Yes, I agree the designs are very plausible, and that is what makes Stargate good . The tech progression is steadily advancing, and once the tauri figure stuff out they reverse engineer the tech and build their own form of tech like the naquadah generators F-302, 303, 304, ARG to hand held life signs detectors even the beam weapons for the fleet.

@IRMacGuyver most likely, I use metrics myself. i grew up learning mm cm m km for building or drawing measurements miles for distance, mph for speed, feet and inches for hight of people, stone for weight of people and grams kg tonnes for all other weight

@sg-24 whole numbers buddy

@@Stinger522 yh i agreed the number of missilse are a bit under numbers as 4 seems a bit to few for a long battle I reckon 4 to 6 missiles each side totaling 8 to 12 aim 120 that enough for a long duration fight and with the shape it was definitely designed to emulated a death glider but yh in shots it sits so close to the ground it surprising it dosent catch on take of and landing

@dragonweyr44 it's more a naquadah composite, and the design of the 302 to be similar to a death glider is an interesting concept and is imo the so what correct way to go if your trying to in a way copy your enemy

@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y I can see why they had the bent wings on the 301, because, as Jacob Carter said, "You ground a death glide, slapped a US Air Force sticker on it, and called it a day." But the bent wings don't make sense on the 302. They nearly touch the ground with the landing gear down It would be worse if they can't come down Like Cam Mitchell could attest to

@dragonweyr44 yh the x301 was a repaired death glider, but the f -302 is man made, so it does make me wonder why it copies the shape of the death gliders maybe the shape has meaningfull purpose if it does its never stated. I just think that the tauri just went lets build our own death glider, and th e 302 is the result." That's my guess

@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y You would think that it would be for lift in atmosphere, but it doesn't work like that Also, why didn't they give it a name, like the F-15 Eagle, or the F-16 Fighting Falcon, or the hornet or Tomcat?

@saquist yh and that's why I don't count it for the mass-produced F-302s as we don't ever see it used again after anubis Super is destroyed, so I figured it's dropped from the design

@TJAllcot it's hard to tell, but it's definitely around 20m wide due to the size of it in the hanger with people. If it was 50% smaller, it would be the same width as the f18, and in every shot on the show shows, the 302 is much larger

@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y it's a shame that the set plans for the actual prop F302s aren't available.

@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y if you look at the hanger image, especially the guy standing next to the cockpit, the top of the cockpit is about elbow height and at top of the intake is about shoulder height. The digital estimate has that intake higher. My initial 50% is definitely wrong, maybe 20 to 25 percent smaller. Might be closer to 20 meters wide.

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@jamesamy1963 maybe the beam cannon itself is to large for the F-302 or it could be a power issue you never know

@@Skorch88 your welcome Im happy you enjoy them

@@michaelescamilla5385 it makes sense with the F-302

@moxgion ah the starfury now that's a great fighter it also was one of the first fully cgi fighters on screen and it had very realistic engines for space flight definitely up there in my list of favourites

next video is going to be trying to figure out destiny's FTL speed then the Prometheus breakdown is after also the death glider is around 14m wide, smaller the the F-302

​@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Ydestiny ftl speed=ludicrous speed

@7:07 i say the aim 120 missiles are naquadah tipped and with the F-302 i fell in love with it the moment i saw it as a kid for the first time its my favourite fighter

@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y Ohhh...than i missed the naquadah part, my bad. 😁

@martinantab3520 No worries, my speaking is a little fast. sometimes it is probably my fault for not being clearer

all i can say is thank you for the support enjoy the content

@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y great as always mate! Thank you for you time and effort as always

@@bracesbread01 thank you for your support, i try and do my best bringing good and accurate info and content and it makes me so happy that my efforts are appreciated i shall continue to improve and provide my content for all cheers buddy you made my day

@VisiblyPinkUnicorn ha ha 😂 I'm new to the whole video editing thing 🤣 I like it ive had some negative things about the length of it but I remain content with my creation

@bobingabout in my research the 303 and 304 received asgard hyperdrive along with the shields the asgard hyperdrive are powered by naquada generators not naquadria only the human built hyperdrive engine use naqudria as a short cut as earth didint have the means to generate the immense energy needed but with the asgard engines they use powerful naquadah generators the show moved away from naquadria engines after the prometheus engine core blew up cause after that they retro fitted an alkesh hyperdrive engine then late upgraded to asgard engine so no from the show info and info I reserch for the video they don't use naquadria generators also the zpm was a add on power booster same as the asgard core the ships own power was only naquadah generators

​@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y Considering for the most part "Put more energy in, Ship goes faster" is a general rule (Which is why a ZPM can get them to Pegasus in 2 weeks, rather than 2 months), they'd either still need a Naquadria generator to power the asgard hyperdrive, or a significant improvement in the Naquadah generator technology. Asgard technology doesn't actually use Naquadah to power their ships, they have something called Neutrino-ion generators. So unless the Asgard shared this technology, and it was incorporated into the 304, then the 304 likely still uses Naquadria to power the hyperdrive. I mean, I'm not going to outright say you're wrong, I'm sure the Asgard hyperdrive is more efficient than the Goa'uld design, but it also goes faster, so unless you can point me to specific evidence that it isn't using a Naquadria reactor to power the hyperdrive (in the absence of a ZPM), I'm going to assume it is.

@AC4ace I understand your point, and I agree and disagree with it. The sizes for the 304 online are conflicting sizes yes so I tend not to believe ither one on face value but i lean to the larger size now for the 302 it is stated to be 26m wide from wing tip to wing tip and we see a few shots in the show with people next to it showing it to be definitely wider than say an FA 18 so using that size of 26m W which yes can be wrong I then use a shot from the show to estimate the position relative to the hanger doors the 302 would be and scale from there as there is nothing eles to use as a measuring device this method is the only method I can come up with that can figure out the size of the 304. now if you wanted to change the size of the 302 to say 20m W it would still be the same number across so we can do the math 20mx28=560m L now that's more reasonable in length than 728m and this can work on any size you scale the 302 to let's say 15m wide 302 so 15m×28=420m now we are getting small about half the size of the 728m and 100m larger than the nimitz so as long as my estimate of the 302 position in the hanger door is correct we need to find the correct size of the 302 find that and do w×28= and boom size of the 304. I found and used the 302 size of 26m wide, which looks right to me, so that's what I used it probably too big, but again, it might not be the only way to definitely find out the size of the 304 and 302 is to ask the creator for it and unfortunately I don't have that information so I'm using what I can find I appreciate your comment and accept your premises

@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y There IS a definitive way to estimate the size of the 302. Look up "X-302 Testflight" here on TH-cam and you'll find a video of the 302, from its very first onscreen appearance, carrying the Stargate. The Stargate has a known, well-established size of 6.7 meters. We know this because there was an actual physical, real-world prop, and it's a matter of record how big it was. Checking that clip, it's clear that the 302 does NOT have a 26-meter wingspan, because if it did then you could fit nearly 4 Stargates side by side, when it's clear in that clip you could barely get 2. All that aside, your use of the 302 exiting the hangar of the 304 is a flawed premise to begin with, because the VFX artists for Atlantis are on record saying that they would alter the scale of the digital models all the time in order to achieve the best dramatic footage. They weren't the BSG reboot team that kept everything to scale, so using two different shots of the 302 next to the 304 could result in completely different size calculations.

I'm trying to, but I'm reading a script on screen, and as I'm not great at reading, it's a challenge every time I look at camara I lose my place and mess up the line and trying to memorise the lines is near impossible in the time frame I'm working on better camara angles to help with eye line but it's not easy thanks for the advice none the less

yh I may of under valued the speed there alot. using the milkyway Galaxy as a reference, it's 100k light years accros, so if the destiny could travel across a galaxy, the size of the milkyway in say a year it would have to be going 100k times the speed of light to cross it I'm doing a video soon correcting this math as it was a blunder on my part and I think it would be cools to explore this further

I know I'm so shocked at the views my favourite franchise is stargate. I watched new episodes every week on TV growing up eagerly awaiting the next. it's been so long since we had any new Stargate stuff it's still great to see the fan base still loves it

definitely had great potential for storytelling in the unknowns of the universes for me I don't rate any of the 3 shows better than the others I love all of it equally as it tells a continuous story from one show to the next building on the universe but if I had to choose I think I would go atlantis sg1 universe but only just

I agree a lot of people say it can't be that big due to crew size or the fact it only carrys 16 F.302 but if you do the comparison and then do the math it has to be big to fit the 302 theirs no way around it unless the 302 is smaller than stated. this video, I try and convey a logical approach to the size, and I think it makes sense thank you for the comment

kinda simular both have fighter bays on each side, and both have an angerler design . They both use similar weapons to ballistic guns and missiles. One could easily mistake ither ship belonging to the other universe, both ships are great

thanks buddy

yes, the same it showed up like a boss and instantly was better than the prometheus it is a really good design

Hopefully, they will kinda "Serenity" some ending movie...

thanks, I wanted to give a human feel to my video and to have the feel that I'm talking to the audience, granted I'm reading a script that I wrote and my reading is pretty awfull but I hope having my face on screen makes it more personal than just having vocals 😊

if so, then my estimate is not far of

@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y Indeed!

my next video is the breakdown of the F-302 then after is going to the prometheus

@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y thank you....your breakdowns are awesome

@Joel-re9kt thank you, much appreciated

the premises of the ship is it was launched automatically from Earth to explore the universe, and one day, the ancients would board the ship, the ancients ascended before that happend so destiny was forgotten until earth figured it out. now don't forget that humans are descended from the anceints and thecniclly are the same species so humans are able to use ancient tech with realitve ease and with the co2 scrubbers the ship is millions of years old I imagine the compound used in the scrubber went bad over time. I don't think the co2 scrubbers were running until the icarus crew arrived, so when destiny fired up the life support, the compound used had expired. I imagine Destiny had a replacement compound in a random cargo bay, so the ancients could fix it easy, but for us humans who don't know anything about the destiny it was harder to fix plus don't forget is was the creative decision by the writer to have the first half of the first season to air, water, power so on. and as viewers, we can only guess what happened to the ship.

@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y I guess it's wide open to interpret the actual situation, on certain humans had the ATA gene and everyone else may have gotten the treatment, the life support situation is when they fell through the gate, it should have been a hard vacuum with no air to turn on life support and the gravity was already working, not to hate because I love SG1 and SGA , I'm trying to get into SGU, but after watching the Expanse some of the stuff is hard to go along with, your specs of the ship are great

naqudria was used to power the early x303 hyperdrive but was later replaced by an asgard design the ships never used naqudria for a power source as its to unstable

Sorry, those specifics are not backed by the show. Specificaly it was not told, that Destiny gets the data DURING its flight (and not during the numerous safety stops), that it somehow COULD reach hyperspace speeds - shields or no shields, and especially, there is no mention, far less of proof, that the data cant be obtained by ship in hyperspace (even if it has to make a stops, to take the measurements)

@@ultramarinus2478 hyperspace is a different dimension outside of normal space

it's stated by Dr. mckay in the show that the daedalus is the sister ship to the prometheus regardless if they are two diffrent design of ship, and for battle cruiser, I'm not sure about classes, but I would call it a deep space carrier myself

one possible reason is the age of the ship, and the compound used in the scrubbers has a life span that expired by the time the icarus crew arrived its stated in the show destiny launched without a crew on autopilot but you have to take into account that the ship is like 50 million years old stuff breaks

@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y they were overflowing when they arrived even though life support was off until they gated in. It is an automated system. I am also curious why, as the most important and used room on the ship, the bridge was hidden?

@TheBullDurham the bridge was lock behind a master key code I'm sure the ancients didint want just anyone controlling the ship saftey precusuion I would imagine

the daedalus has always had rail guns maybe your thinking of the prometheus as in the episode of atlantis when they bring railguns to atlantis, its stated that the rail guns where slated for the prometheus so I'm guessing the 304 was built with the railguns from the start

the comic book run of back to destiny was pretty good and continuing it a bit definitely makes for and intreasting read

I believe I have positioned the f-302 in the correct position in relation to the hanger doors has the hanger doors are smaller than the actulal size of the hanger itself. Look at the image with the front view. I looked at the image from the episode the f 302 is flying out the hanger with atleast half the size of the 302 remaining each side of the door with the 302 in the middle so going of that I placed the 302 in the hanger door in the same place with the rough space remaining each side of the 302 then I kept that scale and did the working out now I'm not saying I'm correct I'm just saying that the shows scene determined the location and intern my calculation of the size of the 304 but again this is a rough estimate I could do it again and place 302 to fit the entire width on the hanger door the ship would still be big but as there'd space each side of the 302 in the doors I've opted for this scale

@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y We don't have an image of the doors closed with a 302 in front of it so that method could lead to extreme variation due to perspective

@saquist The hanger door frame is the same size regardless if it is closed or open .the image from the show shows the frame with the 302 in it, so the scale I used positions the 302 in the rough place in relation to the frame of the hanger it maybe a bit smaller but not by much again this is a rough scale. the daedalus is definitely not under 300m long it rought between 500m to 700m long thats the sweet spot imo

@@SCI-FI-NERD-DRMCK4Y The Door frame location doesn't change but there is no shadow on the deck to show when the fighter cross that boundary.