Philly Grea Battles also come down to strategy, for example Battle of The Bulge where the Germans were better equipped then the allies but lost due to poor strategy and fuel management for vehicles.
Well, not that easy. Stormtroopers would win in vast majority of environments and situations. When in advantage they would be victorious like 9 out of 10 or almost 10 out of10 situations, however when in disadvantage they still could be difficult opponent winning like 3 out of 10 engagments. Moreover Stormtroopers got plenty of specialized troops that could be used when realizing nontypical task. Rebels were perfectly aware of it and they did great job in allocating available resources and personel in such a way that they in certain situations they could gain some strategic advantage, because they could not won the war through simple attrition. Competent Rebel commander would be simply avoiding any direct confrontation looking for opportunity instead - a situtation when risking direct engagment could potentially provide some strategic lever.
Am I the only one who wants to see a movie displaying the full might of the empire? Like a movie where, for once, the good guys don't win and stormtroopers aren't just target practice for the rebels. the second half of rogue one kinda got close to it but i would definitely love a movie focused on the empire, maybe about the transition from the clone wars to the civil war
LMFAO.. I remember that part in the death star... The Emperor should had have his best death Troopers to protect the deflector Shield... Those Stormtroopers on Endor were afraid and ran away from teddy bears... Didn't even stand on ground and protect that bunker the rebels enter... LOL
People really undersell the ewoks and the conditions of that battle. There were hundreds of them along with a team of rebel commandos against like 40 troops at most.
1:10 incompetent because the plot demands it and the original film was made in the 70s. At least they are now more competent than before, so that's a positive.
Storm Troopers: trained and well equipped soldiers Rebels: guerrilla fighters Overall, Storm Troopers are better. However guerrilla fighters in real life history have had a good knack of giving others hell.
Finally someone who knows that stormtroopers are elite soldiers and nobody stood a chance against them. Just kidding because right when they went too battle the enemies get plot armor.
Stormtroopers come equipped with Standard Issue E-11 Inaccurate-class blasters and the 16 cling-film plates on a full body mask to protect their bodies. Rebel Soldiers come equipped with Standard Issue DH-17 Inaccurate-class blasters and A280 Overpowered-class blasters, as well as a full set of leather plot armour to protect them.
The only reason the empire lost was because of plot armor the only reason storm troopers couldnt aim was because they were fighting the good guys if plot armor wasnt involved the rebel alliance would be gone before their first year passed
This isn't totally accurate actually. The US forces caused 2 million casualties for the north Vietnamese and Vietcong, while sustaining ~75,000 casualties themselves. The US and South Vietnam won the war in terms of numbers, the North and the communists won the objective.
I hate the thing that people say "storm troopers can't aim!!" They dang can. I'd like you see beat one with a gun as well. The amount of times storm troopers have crushed rebelles is lots and they missed a lot because they were told too
well the ewooks were going to be wookies but were changed at the last second to appeal to kids.....I like to this this moment in starwars was just a rumor started by the rebels to make fun of the empire and what really happened is that a massive wookie revolt took place
It would be more expensive to camouflage the stormtroopers. The empire would rather have more stormtroopers then have less with camouflage plus stormtroopers aren't always stationed to one place they move around so there would be no point in spending money on high quality paint if they couldn't use it after one battle because the climate and planet they go to fight on next is different.
Could you imagine a star wars battlefront simulator with asymmetric warfare :O Empire getting all the gear they have and a HUD while Rebels are left to sneaky around, move fast and ambush. Love the Deadliest Warrior approach to the video, would be cool if they came back with a Sci-fi version and used you tubers and other like you to create their content and gather the info using their resources.
I wouldn't really put too much focus on the weapons. Stormtroopers, having a proper military infrastructure behind them, had a much easier time picking different weapons depending on their missions. Whereas I imagined the rebels hardly had a standardized weapon because of their guerilla style, and simply used whatever they had on hand. Which meant that a rebel could come onto the battlefield with everything from a puny low powered blaster to an outlawed disruptor rifle bought from a crime syndicate, lol
3:08 "Some [Rebel] Soldiers [could be] as young as fourteen years old". Wait, what? Are we just going to glance over the fact that the Rebel Alliance used both terror attacks against the Imperials AND used child soldiers? These are supposed to be the "good guys"? I know the Empire was a terrible regime to live under, but seriously- these guys are closer to actual terrorist groups than anything else. Also, it's kind of funny that the E-11's closest analogue is an M16 or similar rifle while the A280 is more of a "Space AK". Again, the Rebels are supposed to be the "Good Guys".
the rebels didn't force the kids to fight, it was their own choice. and guerrilla tactics are necessary for any resistance movement to fight against a larger better trained army.
I have a stormtrooper helmet and it is very hard to see in it , although it's much different went talking about it in real life then in a fictional universe :) But the phase 1 clone troopers have the best view of them all XD
The storm troopers slaughtering the rebels on the Tantive IV were the 501st clones if we assume they were the ones always with Vader. Same for on the battle of Hoth. If Wookieepedia is to be believed. This does not bode well for the actual capacity of non-clone storm troopers. EDIT: This isn't true. However citing the 501st as evidence that grunt storm troopers aren't stupid is like pointing to the absolute best special forces to claim the common soldiers are elites.
I just tell everyone that says stormtroopers can't aim to watch the Tantive IV scene, The Battle of Hoth, and of course the beginning of the Force Awakens.
The Stormtroopers in the force awakens were different from galactic empire Stormtroopers. TFA Stormtroopers were kidnapped as children and trained from birth, so they are better soldiers.
Aemilius Brutus No no thats fine. I just felt it was still important enough to bring them up too since in a few years from now people will say the same stuff about them. Plus a few of there stromtroopers had to have been in the EMPIRE beforehand, possibly.
The Stormtroopers also receive a very taff training on Carida. A planet with many different environments and a higher gravity which strenghts their muscles.
The " child soldiers " lost their parents due to the Empire actions. These teenagers want pay back. Listen SJW read up on the history of warfare, 14 year old males have always been in war zone conflicts.
Where do you find your pictures? They are great I love the one with Han in the prison holding area. I haves looked for it but could not find it. Thanks for the help.
Stormtroopers use a wide variety of weapons, including those more suited for longer range engagements I believe, that and having incomparably better training would give them the advantage in virtually any environment.
Honestly I could see the rebels having a fair chance in certain urban environments with the use of guerrilla tactics, especially if it's a high rising city like Coruscant where they would have plenty of alleys and high spots to use
EXCELLENT Video and Compare and Contrast layout. Well done on the Military Prowess of both Groups. Very Good. This is a Great resource for Indie/Independent film makers. Good explanations and examples. THANK YOU "The Lore Master".
I think that the empire would lose some battles in close quarter combat because the rebel army had a variation of weapons. An example would be the DL 44 ( heavy blaster pistol ) ect.
The storm troopers are "stupid" in Star Wars rebels miss because there are only about 5 main characters in any engagement seen on the show so far. If it was a war time setting such as in the clone wars, there would be more larger battles and more rebels would be seen being killed. That's what I believe about the show
Yes I agree the only people they fight in the series are the main characters, if they fight the Rebels soldiers in the series they will litterally obliterate them
Yeah, the Empire dominates in larger battles. The Empire was geared more toward open warfare on the Clone Wars' Scale. Star destroyers had many ship-to-ship and orbital bombardment weaponry. TIE Fighters were mostly anti-starfighter ships. And the stormtrooper's numbers, training and equipment were best suited for complete warfare. However the rebels mainly fought a guerrilla war. The rebels ship's had hyperdrives to do hit & runs and the soldiers focused on ambushing. With Vietnam as proof, to take down a bigger and more advanced enemy, use guerrilla warfare.
Alan Garcia If im not mistaken he said they had low morale, and i thought back to the movies and other media, and i cannot remember stormtroopers not following orders or being afraid.
Not retreating or not refusing orders isn't the same as good morale. They might have followed orders, but been less willing to take risks, push on, or focus on the battlefield.
+lekhaclam87 they would steamroll the IoM. They have safer, faster and more reliable ftl and better ship weaponry. A single ISD can render a planet uninhabitable via base delta zero. The IoM required specialised ships and virus bombs for exterminatus. The galactic empire at its height owned an entire galaxy, the IoM had half a galaxy at best.
+Oleg Balashov The IoM has warp power which although unstable is far superior to force power, at least to my knowledge of the two. Also the space marines will probably wipe the floor with those stormtroopers.
Empire doesn't stand a chance. The Imperium of Man has boarding actions that would ruin a Star Destroyer, Space Marines are basically pocket Rancors with Fully Automatic Grenade Launchers, and the Imperial Guard would demolish the Empire on the ground.
We honor all those brave men and women that sacrifice their life and protect us from the terrorist scum, and may the dead watch over us in their eternal vigil. Glory to the Empire!!!
The Stormtroopers would completely steamroll the Rebels in a fair fight. The Rebels aren't idiots, there is a reason they fight through Guerrilla warfare. 500 Stormtroopers VS 500 Rebels wouldn't even be a fight, it would be a massacre. Also, I would like a source for stormtroopers having low morale. From what I've seen the stormtroopers seem to follow orders without a second thought. Also, 1:14 What are you doing here Marco Rubio? 2:56 Does that remind you of any other organization? Here's a hint. It starts with Al and ends with Qaeda. 3:08 "Armed groups distinct from the national armed forces should not, under any circumstances, recruit (whether on a compulsory or voluntary basis) or use in hostilities persons under the age of 18 years, and the States must take legal measures to prohibit and criminalize such practices" - Article 14 of the Convention on the Rights of the Child Yet another Rebel war crime. 3:11 Actually Fact Free, we know of at least one Rebel who was 11 years old. Its kind of disgusting when you think about it. But I digress, great video, the script especially. I am glad to see the Rebel propaganda has not taken a hold on your mind!
Jen'Ari-Asha Define "neutral terrain". And no Army is gonna fight fair, so even using the "fair fight" as an example when comparing (like these VS videos) is wrong as that would never actually happen in practise.
Clinton Oh Yes, an army is never going to fight fair. That's why the Rebels won. Because they fought dirty. Because they used dishonorable tactics. Not because they are better soldiers. That's my point. The Rebel strategy is more effective, but their soldiers are inferior.
Jen'Ari-Asha "Dishonourable tactics" here we go with that bullshit again. Fighting is fighting. Fighting is not a nice thing, it is not an honourable thing. Fighting is dirty, it is cruel, it is violent. Fighting is about survival. "Honour" will not save your life. Inferior on an individual training level, yes. But you can't say the force is inferior when it has won.
armour is basically a straight jacket and to make matters worse the helmet has two stupid protrusions around the chin so again more restricted movement. lack of mobility is a death sentence to infantry. And offers not protection if it can’t stop a blaster with all those cons then it totally useless.
If I remember, the protrusions contain coms equipment and breathing apparatus when in a different/lack of atmosphere. The armor was useful, as it forced the rebels into equipping themselves with cumbersome (and expensive) blasters. It also provides a strong psycological buff, making the troopers feel stronger.
@@paulh.9526 Yes, the helmets had certain equipment installed (like rebreathers and such) but they also limit fields of vision - not a huge problem when fighting on a starship or in a building (where the quarters are fairly tight and you really only need focus on what's in front of you), but in conditions like street fighting or wilderness combat (where there are more opportunities for the opposition to make flanking attacks) that can be quite a disadvantage. And the overall effectiveness of one's armor is reduced when the enemy has weapons capable of punching through it - yes, these imposed some logistical difficulties on the Rebel forces but the disadvantage incurred by them still doesn't outweigh the benefits of the heavy weapons.
The Empire adapted to their disadvantage at long range. So they trained specialized stormtroopers just for that, a full squad of those specialized stormtroopers could have an even higher chance to win against the rebels.
If rebels ever found themselves in a straight shootout with Stormtroopers, something had gone badly wrong. They were neither trained nor equipped to handle conventional engagements. Asymmetric warfare was more their MO.
The Rebels didn’t necessarily have better pilots. They had a few really good pilots, but they had better starfighters. The Imperial pilots had proper training, but they didn’t get as much recognition due to the fact that the Imperials didn’t promote individuality, so the aces they did have didn’t get much attention. But they did get to fly TIE Defenders, so that’s a plus.
The quality of pilots is up for debate, but the Rebellion certain had better quality starfighters as they often came equipped with shields and hyperdrive units most Imperial starfighters had no shielding and relied upon capital ships for inter-stellar transport (with some notable exceptions like the TIE-defender - which didn't really see wide use in the conflict).
thats what ita based on the rebel A295 looks like an ar 15 and the blaster rifle for the rebels in battlefont 2 and 1 is based off a m16 and during the battle of hoth the used the A295 not the A280 a sorta mistake in the video
We need Shocktroopers, Shadow Troopers, all phases of Darktrooper, Purgetroopers, Aquatroopers, Magma Troopers, Flametroopers (Imperial), Novatroopers, Navy Troopers, Army Troopers, Lavatroopers, Mudtroopers, and Imperial technicians in Battlefront 2 as troop classes and skins.
If the Stormtroopers had kept The environmental Camo they used previously in the Clone war's they would have a more chance of winning. Including the Elite training they once used as Clones against separatist.
Not that's not the right answer and I'll tell you why: If they wanted the good guys to win, why did George Lucas wanted an alternate ending where luke would put on vaders helmet saying "now I am vader" with a dark ending. Also: The reason why the stormtroopers lost was because the empire was in a rush the being stormtroopers on endor so they just sent regular soldiers to be in time to stop the rebels, which is why you don't see camouflaged armor or elite stormtroopers. And if they didn't have Hans and Leias smart thinking and chewbaccas strength and droids, the rebels could have lost if they went solo
+Lyrics writer GEORGE LUCAS WANTED THAT ENDING TO HAVE A CHANCE OF MAKING MORE STAR WARS MOVIES AND THE STORMTROOPERS WERE VERY POWERFUL AND THEY HAD AT AT TANKS IN ENDOR AND ALSO THE EMPIRE HAD MILLIONS OF TROOPS AND THEY COULD SENT AS MUCH THEY WANTED IN ENDOR BUT THEY DIDN'T BECAUSE ALWAYS THE FUCKING GOOD GUYS HAVE TO WIN
Templar S but why do the good guys always have to win, if we saw every movie in 2014-2015 and we knew that the good guys will always win, won't that be be boring? Think this through its obvious. It's nice to see the bad guys win for once
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So basicly each faction would win in the situation they are trained and equipped for... makes sense.
Just like battlefront
Philly Grea Battles also come down to strategy, for example Battle of The Bulge where the Germans were better equipped then the allies but lost due to poor strategy and fuel management for vehicles.
@Stark The Analyser Depends on the Imperial officer that's commanding them.
Well, not that easy. Stormtroopers would win in vast majority of environments and situations. When in advantage they would be victorious like 9 out of 10 or almost 10 out of10 situations, however when in disadvantage they still could be difficult opponent winning like 3 out of 10 engagments. Moreover Stormtroopers got plenty of specialized troops that could be used when realizing nontypical task. Rebels were perfectly aware of it and they did great job in allocating available resources and personel in such a way that they in certain situations they could gain some strategic advantage, because they could not won the war through simple attrition. Competent Rebel commander would be simply avoiding any direct confrontation looking for opportunity instead - a situtation when risking direct engagment could potentially provide some strategic lever.
In any 1 on 1 battle with just Stormtroopers and rebel soldiers the empire would win
Finally someone who Knows that stormtrooper are not as incompetent as the movies put it, Kind of suck that Rebels is repeating this trend.
And rouge one by the looks of it :(
I just want stormtroopers to be depicted as badass again.
Yes thank you
+Oleg Balashov make stormtroopers great again
Agreed
*cough cough* hoth and tantive 4 *cough cough*
Am I the only one who wants to see a movie displaying the full might of the empire?
Like a movie where, for once, the good guys don't win and stormtroopers aren't just target practice for the rebels.
the second half of rogue one kinda got close to it but i would definitely love a movie focused on the empire, maybe about the transition from the clone wars to the civil war
Emire for ever💕💕💕💕💕
True
lew2143 it’s what the original SWBF2 did, went from you being in the 501st legion to Vader’s fist and it was amazing
We got the og Battlefront 2, but it’s a game and not a movie, still a good game though
Maybe even ditch the whole nazi sith empire meme, and make it more about opposing ideologies and regimes, both of which have their pros and cons.
Emperor: I HAVE SENT A LEGION OF THE MOST HIGHLY TRAINED TROOPERS IN THE GALAXY
Everyone is killed by Teddy Bears
*Then he enslaves the bears*
Emperor: I NOW HAVE THE ULTIMATE SOLDIERS
1:15
hahaha
LMFAO.. I remember that part in the death star... The Emperor should had have his best death Troopers to protect the deflector Shield... Those Stormtroopers on Endor were afraid and ran away from teddy bears... Didn't even stand on ground and protect that bunker the rebels enter... LOL
People really undersell the ewoks and the conditions of that battle. There were hundreds of them along with a team of rebel commandos against like 40 troops at most.
The rebels are gangster until they lose their plot armor like in rogue one.
Is better that they die though...
They still had their plot armor. It’s just a little bit worse because some were killed.
Agreed
@@williampolmanteer7844 NO ONE survived scarif not even the imperials
@ @@yoshithebear7630 , No quite a lot actually survived that, since it only after over half of the planet and it didn’t destroy scariff
1:10 incompetent because the plot demands it and the original film was made in the 70s. At least they are now more competent than before, so that's a positive.
Rebels.
@Blue Zach my bad.
Then came the mandalorian
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The rebels would win because they have thicker plot armour
I agree nice vid
I agree, because they are better and i like the Empire
I agree. They're both great fighters with pros and cons. I like playing as The Empire in Battlefront II and Empire at War...
This makes me want to replay battlefront
Storm Troopers: trained and well equipped soldiers
Rebels: guerrilla fighters
Overall, Storm Troopers are better. However guerrilla fighters in real life history have had a good knack of giving others hell.
Really stormtroopers would win. If only rebels didn’t have so much plot armor
Finally someone who knows that stormtroopers are elite soldiers and nobody stood a chance against them. Just kidding because right when they went too battle the enemies get plot armor.
Thanks
@@Stormfire1777 The NVA had plot armor...
@@Stormfire1777 Americans during the Revolutionary war had plot armor
You gotta know that the main characters got plot armour preventing a normal stormtrooper from killing them
Stormtroopers come equipped with Standard Issue E-11 Inaccurate-class blasters and the 16 cling-film plates on a full body mask to protect their bodies.
Rebel Soldiers come equipped with Standard Issue DH-17 Inaccurate-class blasters and A280 Overpowered-class blasters, as well as a full set of leather plot armour to protect them.
I love this comment
Equivokate they can have a dlt19 heavy blaster rifle
Plot armor... Basically sums up the star wars films.
The only reason the empire lost was because of plot armor
the only reason storm troopers couldnt aim was because they were fighting the good guys if plot armor wasnt involved the rebel alliance would be gone before their first year passed
When I first read the e11 and dh17 I thought it was legit until I read about the armour
I think the 1st generations stormtroopers were better since they were clones
The 501st is clone
CommanderCodyHD But The Armer was so uncomfortable and was heavy
1st generation stormtroopers we're sith troopers
I hate the clone wars...
Zeigler Studios ew out
Stormtroopers on Endor = U.S. Marines in Vietnam.
fountainhead the U.S Army were actually the main branch during the Vietnam war.
The rebels have always been good at guerrilla warfare
They kicked ass with their air force and napalm instead of the army itself
This isn't totally accurate actually. The US forces caused 2 million casualties for the north Vietnamese and Vietcong, while sustaining ~75,000 casualties themselves. The US and South Vietnam won the war in terms of numbers, the North and the communists won the objective.
exactly what i was thinking
I hate the thing that people say "storm troopers can't aim!!" They dang can. I'd like you see beat one with a gun as well. The amount of times storm troopers have crushed rebelles is lots and they missed a lot because they were told too
I don't know some of us are pretty good aims
True
The only time they are bad at aiming is when they are shooting at the main protagonists
*Protagonist Armour*
@@vacuumofspace9977 also rebles.
shooting is easier than it is made to look in flims. if you cant hit a person from 10 yards with a semi auto weapon you have serious issues
You need to analyze their fighting tactics. This would provide better insight on who would win.
Stormtroopers would have beat the shit out of them
@@Stormfire1777think you forgot disneys plot armour
Fascinating insight into the Star Wars saga! I’m impressed with these videos descriptions.
I love how every other comment is about the Overwatch music.
you mean TF3?
can you do republic trooper(old republic era) vs stormtroopers
Imperial first class star destroyer vs the most common mon calamari starcruiser
I am so glad you posted this now I don't have to try an explain this. 😀
whats the song in 7:50
couldn´t the empire just like, I don´t know. paint the armor in camuflage colors?
and the ewook stuff is still bullshit.
sometimes scout troopers and recon stormtroopers will have basic camo, and shadow troopers can cloak, but that's about it.
well the ewooks were going to be wookies but were changed at the last second to appeal to kids.....I like to this this moment in starwars was just a rumor started by the rebels to make fun of the empire and what really happened is that a massive wookie revolt took place
It would be more expensive to camouflage the stormtroopers. The empire would rather have more stormtroopers then have less with camouflage plus stormtroopers aren't always stationed to one place they move around so there would be no point in spending money on high quality paint if they couldn't use it after one battle because the climate and planet they go to fight on next is different.
+Butt no they created ewoks because they couldn't afford making a shit ton of wookie costumes
Nova troopers shadow guard and others storm commandos
Imagine training for years. Training with your breathen. Becoming a patriotic soldier.
*just to get blown up by a moisture farmer*
Just like real life. You could be a Spartan from 300, but a bullet to the head is a bullet to the head.
Just to get a concussion by a build a bear
Rip all those storm troopers that chewbaca disarmed (in a more literal sense)
Sounds familiar…
*Fortunate Son*
@@luigimrlgaming9484 *trees start speaking ewok*
1:09 - is that a stormtrooper cutting a jedi's hand off?
Yes storm troopers have to kill the kid snatching Monks
The jedi:well well well, how the turn tables
compare their capital ships next please?
He has a Republic vs Empire class ship video.
empire wins
Yes like the Home One vs Star Destroyer
+nathaniel fernando the impire is the best
*****
Tactics outplay hardare
I love the "Deadliest warrior" aspect of this series.
Could you imagine a star wars battlefront simulator with asymmetric warfare :O Empire getting all the gear they have and a HUD while Rebels are left to sneaky around, move fast and ambush.
Love the Deadliest Warrior approach to the video, would be cool if they came back with a Sci-fi version and used you tubers and other like you to create their content and gather the info using their resources.
I wouldn't really put too much focus on the weapons.
Stormtroopers, having a proper military infrastructure behind them, had a much easier time picking different weapons depending on their missions.
Whereas I imagined the rebels hardly had a standardized weapon because of their guerilla style, and simply used whatever they had on hand.
Which meant that a rebel could come onto the battlefield with everything from a puny low powered blaster to an outlawed disruptor rifle bought from a crime syndicate, lol
Rebel: HA we are at Endor the stormtroopers will stick out **starts snowing**
Rebel: HECK
hoth
I hate the stupid Rebels
3:08 "Some [Rebel] Soldiers [could be] as young as fourteen years old". Wait, what? Are we just going to glance over the fact that the Rebel Alliance used both terror attacks against the Imperials AND used child soldiers? These are supposed to be the "good guys"? I know the Empire was a terrible regime to live under, but seriously- these guys are closer to actual terrorist groups than anything else.
Also, it's kind of funny that the E-11's closest analogue is an M16 or similar rifle while the A280 is more of a "Space AK". Again, the Rebels are supposed to be the "Good Guys".
don't the storm troopers have rocket launcher and sniper rifles as well I'm sure they do.
+tigerhunter77 yeah, most armies do.
the rebels didn't force the kids to fight, it was their own choice. and guerrilla tactics are necessary for any resistance movement to fight against a larger better trained army.
yea the rebellion are kinda like terrorists
also the e-11 is based off of the sterling submachine gun, the a280c is based off of stg-44
www.gunsamerica.com/blog/the-real-guns-of-star-wars/
The stormtroopers had DLT-19s which were long range rifles
Chuck Norris they had e-11*smacksself*
+Chuck Norris the Death Troopers actually were carrying 2 different types of blasters depending on rank, The dlt-19d and the E-11d
You are thinking about Deathtroopers or Shocktroopers
The DLT-19, E-11,T-21 where all standard weapons and scout troopers where seen using A280's
@@cowzilla9982 shock troopers used T-21B
And i Star Wars Rebels they are so bad because its a stupid kids show,made by disney wich means the hero never gets a scratch.
RockMan but i mean not even unimportand charakters die too often
RockMan I like how it is in game of thrones
We have seen people die and heroes get hurt
Stormtroopers can't see shit in that show! Night Combat Advantage my ass!
If your in an A-Wing your basically a clone in The Clone Wars
I have a stormtrooper helmet and it is very hard to see in it , although it's much different went talking about it in real life then in a fictional universe :) But the phase 1 clone troopers have the best view of them all XD
Yea without some magic like tech to make up for it, in reality this design restricts vision so much
Rebels instantly win because Plot Armor
No.
They lost many battle beforehand and started to win more because of Luke and even then Luke was present at the battle of hoth
+Patrick Colgan Just let you know even if Vader did not save Luke the rebel still would blow up the second death star
+Jason Wong well they would lose a Jedi who would become very powerful
+jack ryan clearly the ewoks planned to rule the galaxy as the new dark lord of the sith
Storm Troopers The Elite Warriors of The Galaxy Spend All That Time Training vigorously Later: They Get One shotted By Main Characters
The storm troopers slaughtering the rebels on the Tantive IV were the 501st clones if we assume they were the ones always with Vader. Same for on the battle of Hoth. If Wookieepedia is to be believed.
This does not bode well for the actual capacity of non-clone storm troopers.
EDIT: This isn't true. However citing the 501st as evidence that grunt storm troopers aren't stupid is like pointing to the absolute best special forces to claim the common soldiers are elites.
Rebels tells us that there were virtually no clones in the imperial army at that time. And those who were clones were old and weak.
Louie Kite They are clones, more can be made.
I''m likely wrong about the battle of Hoth, however I'm certain the ones on the tantive IV were clones.
Antoine Vello The creation of clones was stopped a few years after the clone wars, and as we know ANH is set 20 or so years after ROTS.
Louie Kite Looks like I can't find anything backing my point up. Joy.
It seems like that was from the campaign of Battlefront 2. As unfortunate as it is, Battlefront 2 is not cannon anymore.
This was amazing!! I've been obssesd with these videos and it'd great for learning.
Thank you and I recently subbed!
+Dawn Breaker Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
I like how he's using play of the game theme song in the background
I just tell everyone that says stormtroopers can't aim to watch the Tantive IV scene, The Battle of Hoth, and of course the beginning of the Force Awakens.
The Stormtroopers in the force awakens were different from galactic empire Stormtroopers. TFA Stormtroopers were kidnapped as children and trained from birth, so they are better soldiers.
+Aemilius Brutus plus they had beta-plast armor, which was more similar to old plastoid alloy clone trooper armor so it was waaaay stronger.
Aemilius Brutus
I know that, but it doesn't mean the Originals were bad either.
AnimeFreakIncs I was just pointing out, the TFA Stormtroopers were different from the originals.
Aemilius Brutus
No no thats fine. I just felt it was still important enough to bring them up too since in a few years from now people will say the same stuff about them. Plus a few of there stromtroopers had to have been in the EMPIRE beforehand, possibly.
Eh, I think rebels would win. They've got 4 or 5 main characters.
lol true
@Patrick Colgan but the empire lost?
We are talking about random stormtrooper vs random rebel trooper. Not Luke or Han or Leia or Chewbacka against Palpatine or Vader.
@@stukature r/whoosh
Stormtroopers have:
Good aim
Good gear
Good training
And some more good stuff
Rebels have:
Plot armor
Plot armor is the only reason the empire lost
I agreed stormtrooper will stomp so hard
@trolled The Rebels also had great leadership, slightly better ships, and some good tactics. You can't just say it was all plot armor.
@@RolyPoly04 Yeah, but plot armor was the reason the Empire lost Endor
@@themolasser9110 ewoks?
@@danimalanimal3668 no, not Ewoks
I'm so glad that the misunderstanding about Stormtroopers cannot aim is cleared.
But what about the best stormtrooper the empire ever had Garry?
Robot chicken is my favorite to make Star Wars and family guys
well he did survive running into blaster fire grabing his daughters stuffed animal
Don't forget he burned down luke's uncle and aunt's house
+SomeGuy ThatsAwesome On accident
FN 2199 is best! XD
Can you do a video on the rarely seen Imperial Regular Army Troopers?
Overwatch music in a Star Wars video? Nice! Great video as always Fact Free.
Thank you!
The Stormtroopers also receive a very taff training on Carida. A planet with many different environments and a higher gravity which strenghts their muscles.
the Cadian shock troops are the best in the Imperium
+Artemis Fowl Krieg are more hardcore
+Artemis Fowl lol, definitely.
Who is Artemis fowl?
THANK YOU! Stormtroopers are excellent soldiers and dont miss unless ordered!
Evil Empire uses a volunteer army, and the "good guys" use child soldiers. Think on that for a second.
The " child soldiers " lost their parents due to the Empire actions. These teenagers want pay back. Listen SJW read up on the history of warfare, 14 year old males have always been in war zone conflicts.
Just replace empire with America and rebels with Islam and rebel sympathizers with SJWS
Adam Isaksson rebels are space terrorists wake up
Robert Weston hmm yes very evil like blowing up an entire planet of mostly innocents
not everyones a sjw just saying
Where do you find your pictures? They are great I love the one with Han in the prison holding area. I haves looked for it but could not find it. Thanks for the help.
Here you go: orig02.deviantart.net/e2b3/f/2012/355/2/1/star_wars___escape_attempt_by_henning-d5opx65.jpg
Sweet. Thanks
Love these videos! Short and sweet, and to the point!
You didn't leave a stone unturn!
+ΝΙΚΟΣ ΜΑΡΕΤΣΙΚΟΣ ?
Sorry ,I mean that you analyses is excellent and with out any wholes!
Don't worry; Fact Free is a weeaboo with very little social skills. That is why he did not get the saying.
NickRand You spilled the beans on me. But yeah, read this comment in the middle of the night and completely thought it was saying something else lol
Fact Free lel
Stormtroopers use a wide variety of weapons, including those more suited for longer range engagements I believe, that and having incomparably better training would give them the advantage in virtually any environment.
lol nice OW play of the game music. I know you tried sneaking that in there ;)
Stormtroopers all the way!!!
FOR THE EMPIRE!!!!!
uhh... mister xeno... you should fear the predator and the USCM
ALIEN DRONE Rebels are Heretical Scum
I agreed
Skyrim belongs to the Nords
ALIEN DRONE there are 66 likes on this comment
Is that fucking Overwatch music in the background?
+SergeantRaccoon Yes
+Fact Free nice
I thought so
The most overrated game
+Darth Vader ikr
Anyobe else notice how the music sounds similar to overwatch theme
Then why were the stormtroopers terrible shots on Tatooine and Bespin?
Jakromha on tatooine they aren't. On bespin you literally see vader order them to lure Luke to him.
Oleg Balashov "stop that ship, blast them!"
Jakromha not really surprising for an ex military sumggler as skilled as Han to escape that easily. Plus that's just cheesy dialogue.
Oleg Balashov Being a smuggler means that you are better at going unnoticed, not that the enemy isn't able to shoot you when they do notice you.
Jakromha han is ex military, ex imperial so he probably understood the targeting patters of the Empire
Honestly I could see the rebels having a fair chance in certain urban environments with the use of guerrilla tactics, especially if it's a high rising city like Coruscant where they would have plenty of alleys and high spots to use
EXCELLENT Video and Compare and Contrast layout. Well done on the Military Prowess of both Groups. Very Good. This is a Great resource for Indie/Independent film makers. Good explanations and examples. THANK YOU "The Lore Master".
I think that the empire would lose some battles in close quarter combat because the rebel army had a variation of weapons. An example would be the DL 44 ( heavy blaster pistol ) ect.
Is that overwatch music I hear in the background?
Yep, it's the track of "Play of the Game" that plays at then end of a match
Finally someone who knows that stormtroopers are not as bad as they are being told they are
I agree storm troopers are awesome
The storm troopers are "stupid" in Star Wars rebels miss because there are only about 5 main characters in any engagement seen on the show so far. If it was a war time setting such as in the clone wars, there would be more larger battles and more rebels would be seen being killed. That's what I believe about the show
Yes I agree the only people they fight in the series are the main characters, if they fight the Rebels soldiers in the series they will litterally obliterate them
Yeah, the Empire dominates in larger battles. The Empire was geared more toward open warfare on the Clone Wars' Scale. Star destroyers had many ship-to-ship and orbital bombardment weaponry. TIE Fighters were mostly anti-starfighter ships. And the stormtrooper's numbers, training and equipment were best suited for complete warfare. However the rebels mainly fought a guerrilla war. The rebels ship's had hyperdrives to do hit & runs and the soldiers focused on ambushing. With Vietnam as proof, to take down a bigger and more advanced enemy, use guerrilla warfare.
love the overwatch music in the background in a star wars video
Stormtrooper armor is also useless against sticks. The blind monk did it in Rouge One.
Hyperion nah I think it's just because the stormtroopers a pussy cats
Hyperion If you generate enough force you can get through any armor. Especially blows to the head.
Regardless of armor, getting hit with a blunt object hard enough will do damage.
Hyperion hey the stick can snap neck a quarter staff like he has is actually more deadly than a long sword if used correctly
Y u burry mee, u sor rood
Now I just feel bad for the storm troopers
Except for the guy fighting Finn with the shock weapon, he was a badass
That stormtrooper was FO [first order]
1:10 When storm troopers have enough of people making fun of them
SPOILER ALERT!! In rogue one a storm trooper dies!!
Thanks a lot you ruined the movie for me. (Just kidding)
NOOOOOOO WHY
Luke Mitchell in rogue one stormtroopers die like ants
YET ANOTHER SPOILER ALERT:
IN ROGUE ONE,A TIE FIGHTER BLEW UP!
Lol, at first I read the yoda thing as bad grammar, but I then read it in a yoda voice xD
Did the stormtroopers have low morale? i cant recall a part in the movies where they retreated without being ordered?
Alan Garcia If im not mistaken he said they had low morale, and i thought back to the movies and other media, and i cannot remember stormtroopers not following orders or being afraid.
they were more afraid of being executed than whatever they were told to do.
Not retreating or not refusing orders isn't the same as good morale. They might have followed orders, but been less willing to take risks, push on, or focus on the battlefield.
Yeah, you can be depressed, and still follow orders.
epion660 Maybe.
This is your best Video of all Time
501st trooper: they were well trained. They were organized and they were everywhere
Could you do a VS vid on the galactic empire vs the imperium of man (40k)
I don't think the Galactic Empire has what it takes to take on the Imperium of Man at all!
+lekhaclam87 they would steamroll the IoM. They have safer, faster and more reliable ftl and better ship weaponry. A single ISD can render a planet uninhabitable via base delta zero. The IoM required specialised ships and virus bombs for exterminatus. The galactic empire at its height owned an entire galaxy, the IoM had half a galaxy at best.
+Oleg Balashov The IoM has warp power which although unstable is far superior to force power, at least to my knowledge of the two. Also the space marines will probably wipe the floor with those stormtroopers.
Empire doesn't stand a chance. The Imperium of Man has boarding actions that would ruin a Star Destroyer, Space Marines are basically pocket Rancors with Fully Automatic Grenade Launchers, and the Imperial Guard would demolish the Empire on the ground.
Completely wrong there bro, want me to go into details?
This is the best thing I've ever watched
Play battlefront for the answer
Did anyone else hear overwatch music in the background
U just earned a sub and a like. It was very descriptive and i learned alot:)
We honor all those brave men and women that sacrifice their life and protect us from the terrorist scum, and may the dead watch over us in their eternal vigil. Glory to the Empire!!!
Amen
For the empire!
+Jen'Ari-Asha lel
For The Empire!
death to ulfric stormcloack... wait, I am wrong here, right?
so the empire lost because of the plot team wow just wow
Would you rather everyone died during the first movie and it be like 30 minutes long?
I know the important rebels always had a plot sheild... if only the empire won.
+Raging Agent Alternative Ending
+Raging Agent yes. i would love to see that.
+Raging Agent Jk
The Stormtroopers would completely steamroll the Rebels in a fair fight. The Rebels aren't idiots, there is a reason they fight through Guerrilla warfare.
500 Stormtroopers VS 500 Rebels wouldn't even be a fight, it would be a massacre.
Also, I would like a source for stormtroopers having low morale. From what I've seen the stormtroopers seem to follow orders without a second thought.
Also, 1:14 What are you doing here Marco Rubio?
2:56 Does that remind you of any other organization? Here's a hint. It starts with Al and ends with Qaeda.
3:08 "Armed groups distinct from the national armed forces should not, under any circumstances, recruit (whether on a compulsory or voluntary basis) or use in hostilities persons under the age of 18 years, and the States must take legal measures to prohibit and criminalize such practices"
- Article 14 of the Convention on the Rights of the Child
Yet another Rebel war crime.
3:11 Actually Fact Free, we know of at least one Rebel who was 11 years old. Its kind of disgusting when you think about it.
But I digress, great video, the script especially. I am glad to see the Rebel propaganda has not taken a hold on your mind!
"fair fight"
No such thing as a fair fight mate
+Clinton Oh Of course there is. Equal numbers fighting on a neutral terrain face to face.
Jen'Ari-Asha Define "neutral terrain". And no Army is gonna fight fair, so even using the "fair fight" as an example when comparing (like these VS videos) is wrong as that would never actually happen in practise.
Clinton Oh Yes, an army is never going to fight fair.
That's why the Rebels won. Because they fought dirty. Because they used dishonorable tactics.
Not because they are better soldiers.
That's my point. The Rebel strategy is more effective, but their soldiers are inferior.
Jen'Ari-Asha "Dishonourable tactics" here we go with that bullshit again. Fighting is fighting. Fighting is not a nice thing, it is not an honourable thing. Fighting is dirty, it is cruel, it is violent. Fighting is about survival. "Honour" will not save your life. Inferior on an individual training level, yes. But you can't say the force is inferior when it has won.
armour is basically a straight jacket and to make matters worse the helmet has two stupid protrusions around the chin so again more restricted movement. lack of mobility is a death sentence to infantry. And offers not protection if it can’t stop a blaster with all those cons then it totally useless.
If I remember, the protrusions contain coms equipment and breathing apparatus when in a different/lack of atmosphere.
The armor was useful, as it forced the rebels into equipping themselves with cumbersome (and expensive) blasters. It also provides a strong psycological buff, making the troopers feel stronger.
@@paulh.9526 Yes, the helmets had certain equipment installed (like rebreathers and such) but they also limit fields of vision - not a huge problem when fighting on a starship or in a building (where the quarters are fairly tight and you really only need focus on what's in front of you), but in conditions like street fighting or wilderness combat (where there are more opportunities for the opposition to make flanking attacks) that can be quite a disadvantage.
And the overall effectiveness of one's armor is reduced when the enemy has weapons capable of punching through it - yes, these imposed some logistical difficulties on the Rebel forces but the disadvantage incurred by them still doesn't outweigh the benefits of the heavy weapons.
Love your versus videos, you don't take a side and cover the majority of facts
If it's the 501st vs the rebels, then they stand a chance, if not then rip stormtroopers.
What if the rebels have a Jedi with them?
+Jedi Master what if the 501st had Darth Vader with them
and what if the stormtroopers have
darth vader with them , rip jedi and rebels
+Jedi Master that's a tiny chance
You do know the 501 killed a lot of Jedis?
14-15 year olds being stormtroopers was also common due to rushed training and expansion of empire
Anemic Royalty Evidence?
Anemic Royalty geetlys channel and star wars fandom,also star wars rebels,and if I recall properly you made a claim yourself stating I was "wrong"
Jay 0327 ih
But they were also better trained and were more likely to survive...
True
Now people know why stormtroopers are only knocked unconscious when shot.
Endor was the Vietnam for the empire. Change my mind
Or it could of been the Battle of Mokra(polish cavalry victory)
Victor E tru tru
Do Rebels vs Clones!
Yes
Please do
clones would wipe the floor with them.
not even their Storm Commandos could beat them
clones beat storm troopers so they definitely beat rebels
+commenter watcher yes true cause you have to remember no matter how much training the storm troopers have the clones were bred for war.
I love your videos !
The Empire adapted to their disadvantage at long range. So they trained specialized stormtroopers just for that, a full squad of those specialized stormtroopers could have an even higher chance to win against the rebels.
1:14 enyone hear that
Overwatch?
Thanks for this great information
E-11 is too short to be accurate
Lasers don't work like normal projectiles.
+Jen'Ari-Asha a blaster is not a lasergun
+Jen'Ari-Asha they're not lasers
they shoot plasma bolts
+Jen'Ari-Asha its not a laser dumbass, its a blaster
who else noticed the over watch theme 😂😂😂🐋
Lol yeah.
yup
Yeah
its a orchestral remix
An excellent one at that
If rebels ever found themselves in a straight shootout with Stormtroopers, something had gone badly wrong. They were neither trained nor equipped to handle conventional engagements. Asymmetric warfare was more their MO.
Stormtroopers are more trained and they have best army in galaxy
It's kind of dumb to compare these since each rebel was widely different in skill level
He addressed this.
.bdhhduidhu6 hdhrk
But the same can be said for stormtroopers
Pretty informative video! 👍🏻👏
Say what you want about ground troops, rebels had better pilots and fighters. Note how almost all major rebel battles were won in space or in the sky.
And those who own the sky, own the battle.
The Rebels didn’t necessarily have better pilots. They had a few really good pilots, but they had better starfighters. The Imperial pilots had proper training, but they didn’t get as much recognition due to the fact that the Imperials didn’t promote individuality, so the aces they did have didn’t get much attention. But they did get to fly TIE Defenders, so that’s a plus.
The quality of pilots is up for debate, but the Rebellion certain had better quality starfighters as they often came equipped with shields and hyperdrive units most Imperial starfighters had no shielding and relied upon capital ships for inter-stellar transport (with some notable exceptions like the TIE-defender - which didn't really see wide use in the conflict).
That’s only true because of plot convenience
Why does the rebel standard blaster look like a messed up german STG44?
thats what ita based on the rebel A295 looks like an ar 15 and the blaster rifle for the rebels in battlefont 2 and 1 is based off a m16 and during the battle of hoth the used the A295 not the A280 a sorta mistake in the video
It was based off the AR-15
very true
They used the AR-15 receiver to make it. I think thy used elements of the STG as well.
No, it looks like a STG44, the barrel and receiver all look the same. The only difference is the stock and barrel.
We need Shocktroopers, Shadow Troopers, all phases of Darktrooper, Purgetroopers, Aquatroopers, Magma Troopers, Flametroopers (Imperial), Novatroopers, Navy Troopers, Army Troopers, Lavatroopers, Mudtroopers, and Imperial technicians in Battlefront 2 as troop classes and skins.
The storm troopers should have been waaaay more professional, and their armor should be able to withstand more damadge.
Im late but theyr just knocked out
dat overwatch theme
Ay someone noticed. I personally love it.
+Fact Free As did I. Sounded very fitting
+Fact Free do WHY DID they STOPPED WORKING ON CLONES
+Fact Free tf2 is better
+SwegmeisterJ over watch will not beat tf2 it will never match tf2s history
If the Stormtroopers had kept The environmental Camo they used previously in the Clone war's they would have a more chance of winning. Including the Elite training they once used as Clones against separatist.
THE STORMTROOPERS LOST AT THE BATTLE OF ENDOR BECAUSE THEY WANTED THE GOOD GUYS TO WIN JUST FOR THAT
Not that's not the right answer and I'll tell you why:
If they wanted the good guys to win, why did George Lucas wanted an alternate ending where luke would put on vaders helmet saying "now I am vader" with a dark ending.
Also:
The reason why the stormtroopers lost was because the empire was in a rush the being stormtroopers on endor so they just sent regular soldiers to be in time to stop the rebels, which is why you don't see camouflaged armor or elite stormtroopers. And if they didn't have Hans and Leias smart thinking and chewbaccas strength and droids, the rebels could have lost if they went solo
+Lyrics writer GEORGE LUCAS WANTED THAT ENDING TO HAVE A CHANCE OF MAKING MORE STAR WARS MOVIES AND THE STORMTROOPERS WERE VERY POWERFUL AND THEY HAD AT AT TANKS IN ENDOR AND ALSO THE EMPIRE HAD MILLIONS OF TROOPS AND THEY COULD SENT AS MUCH THEY WANTED IN ENDOR BUT THEY DIDN'T BECAUSE ALWAYS THE FUCKING GOOD GUYS HAVE TO WIN
Templar S but why do the good guys always have to win, if we saw every movie in
2014-2015 and we knew that the good guys will always win, won't that be be boring? Think this through its obvious. It's nice to see the bad guys win for once
What atat? You lean atst right? That's pretty stupid to say because not a single at at was there
+Templar S quit typing in caps
No one:
Empire complains about battle of endor with traps and unfamiliar terrain
America during Vietnam war: Haha, you're funny.