Stormtrooper Helmets Are Much Worse Than We Realized

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  • @GenerationTech
    @GenerationTech  2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    The first 1,000 people to use the link will get a 1 month free trial of Skillshare: skl.sh/generationtech12221

    • @spazzmalone
      @spazzmalone ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a theory. Each helmet is keyed to its owner when issued to the trooper. Vision is not an issue for the trooper because the helmet is "working" giving the trooper a heads-up display to assist in vision and tactical input from the command. Just a thought.

    • @DMSProduktions
      @DMSProduktions ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah...nah!

    • @justinhobbs8646
      @justinhobbs8646 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Obi wan's comment was a dig at the stormtroopers

    • @spazzmalone
      @spazzmalone ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justinhobbs8646 I buy that. I always thought I sensed sarcasm and after watching that scene again, I agree with you.

    • @gdragonlord749
      @gdragonlord749 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      On this topic, I would highly recommend Star Wars Allegiance by Tymothy Zahn. The story opens up with what happens when storm troopers communicate with each other.

  • @kirby4077
    @kirby4077 ปีที่แล้ว +2531

    I know we're all aware, but I have to point this out. "I can't see a thing in this helmet." That wasn't Luke, it was Mark Hamill. He was unaware that the cameras were rolling

    • @AdmiralStoicRum
      @AdmiralStoicRum ปีที่แล้ว +289

      Yep a gag ruined what was meant to be a looking threat

    • @AdmiralStoicRum
      @AdmiralStoicRum ปีที่แล้ว +495

      Here's a cut in
      Luke: I can't see a thing in this hemet.
      Han: Turn on your monitor kid.
      Luke: Oh

    • @AnEnemySpy456
      @AnEnemySpy456 ปีที่แล้ว +309

      Yeah but if it makes into the final cut, then it's Luke saying it.

    • @drgojira6044
      @drgojira6044 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      gotta love mark

    • @robo5013
      @robo5013 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      Also, aren't you a little short to be a Stormtrooper?

  • @pacihu962
    @pacihu962 ปีที่แล้ว +910

    I always saw it like this:
    Stormtrooper armor was made for a specific body type. Many needed to fit strict regulations (height, weight etc.). Nevertheless, they very likely still needed to have some small variations within the army because it just wouldn't make sense for everyone to have the same shoe size. Numbers of the soldiers would dwindle. So they probably would have 3-4 different sizes. Same with the helmets. Different head sizes required 3-4 variations or perhaps a slightly adjustable helmet.
    This explains when Rex or Luke say "I can't see a thing in this", because the helmets weren't adjusted for them. Rex has for example a very big head. It very well fitted the Stormtroopers they took it from perfectly, just not Luke or Rex who happened to have a different head size than them. Which then again doesn't contradict their accuracy Obi Wan talks about. That's at least my head canon.

    • @greganderson6371
      @greganderson6371 ปีที่แล้ว +117

      This was my theory too. When you’re “borrowing” uniforms, you’re probably not gonna get a size made for you.

    • @elpinguinovolador4114
      @elpinguinovolador4114 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      They can’t see because the helmet augmented vision and devices only works when it’s owner trooper is using it, it was canon and since nothing contradicts it and changing the funcionalities of og devices is lame I still think is canon

    • @yourmother6045
      @yourmother6045 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      "Head" canon

    • @ibervang
      @ibervang ปีที่แล้ว +12

      My thoughts as well. Not his size or wasn't adjusted for him

    • @CatoNovus
      @CatoNovus ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Sounds like truth, from a certain point of view.

  • @Analog_Mind47
    @Analog_Mind47 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    In older lore, before the memes took precedence, the helmets had a digital heads up display & the eye pieces were cameras, that double functioned as eye holes in emergencies when say they were broken in the process of incapacitating the storm trooper & stealing his armor

    • @NinjaBray
      @NinjaBray ปีที่แล้ว +24

      It makes more sense that a futuristic army spanning across hundreds of star systems wouldn't be relying on 2 slits of glass for their soldiers to see in combat.

  • @rexlumontad5644
    @rexlumontad5644 ปีที่แล้ว +572

    Kanan: "Wow, you really do shoot like a Stormtrooper."
    Rex: "It's the helmet! I can't see!" *yeets it at the schmuck Stormtrooper's face*

    • @imperialodst7335
      @imperialodst7335 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Banter by two characters with plot armor lol kids show moment.

    • @spazzmalone
      @spazzmalone ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Rex's problem with the helmet is that it was not HIS helmet. My theory is each helm is keyed to each trooper when assigned. When the helm is working as designed on the owner's head my guess is a holo heads-up display is visible to the trooper along with tactical data from command.
      Just a theory.

    • @GreenBlueWalkthrough
      @GreenBlueWalkthrough ปีที่แล้ว +37

      @@spazzmalone That and he modded the late clone helmet to keep the enhanced vistion of the Early clone helmet... So yeah he was never going to like it.

    • @bobdaniels9056
      @bobdaniels9056 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Luke: I can't see a thing in this hemet.
      Han: Turn on your monitor kid.
      Luke: Oh

    • @DeagleGamesTV
      @DeagleGamesTV ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@imperialodst7335 Yeah because the original movies had no moments of "plot armor"

  • @mikkelnpetersen
    @mikkelnpetersen ปีที่แล้ว +115

    I've heard that stormtroopers helmets basicly give them a "lasersight", a beam/line from their weapon so they can see exactly where the blaster bolt would go, but only they could see it, so there wouldn't be "red dots" or "lines" everywhere.

    • @jaydeleon8094
      @jaydeleon8094 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      basically halo hud, yes.

    • @leonrussell9607
      @leonrussell9607 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The clones apparently had that too

    • @jaydeleon8094
      @jaydeleon8094 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@leonrussell9607 yes, that's why it was added to trooper armor in the first place.

    • @SomeRandomVergilFanboy
      @SomeRandomVergilFanboy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then why do they still suck at aiming

    • @jaydeleon8094
      @jaydeleon8094 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@SomeRandomVergilFanboy we see them suck at aiming once. In the Death Star, where it was a trap and they were ordered to let them go.
      Any other time it was beyond the effective range of the e-11 which is 100 meters(very close in combat) and a maximum of 300.

  • @spoke2639
    @spoke2639 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    In one of the Star Wars visual dictionaries it explained that the armor being white was also a psychological tactic that told their enemies that they are so confident in their military prowess that they don’t even bother with camouflage. They are so confident that they will win that they don’t care about stealth.

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I would still bet a BILLION Euros on Guardsmen over Clone Troopers/Stormtroopers any time of the day

    • @dragonfell5078
      @dragonfell5078 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@christiandauz3742 To be fair Imperial Guard is incredibly based

    • @matthewcaughey8898
      @matthewcaughey8898 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s why they’re easy to snipe. Wearing a blinding white outfit in jungle combat tends to do that

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dragonfell5078
      Outnumbered Guardsmen infantry on the offense would beat numerically superior Clone Troopers in a fortress with artillery and walkers!
      Need Yuuzhan Vong and Force Users to beat Guardsmen!
      The Mechanicus Skitarii are overkill

    • @destructivepanda5226
      @destructivepanda5226 ปีที่แล้ว

      Goddamit to end the Empire just throw in SLY MARBO AHHHHHHHHHHHH

  • @sgg3586
    @sgg3586 ปีที่แล้ว +302

    I still say that one of the most compelling StarWars stories we have yet to see on the big screen, is from the perspective of a Storm Trooper or especially a First Order Trooper.
    Cause while they MILDLY touched on the idea with Finn, they immediately kind of forgot about it and never addressed it again except to randomly justify having a cavalry charge atop a spaceship (which sounds dumb even just saying it aloud). Like they pulled a "Sure he was a Trooper, but as a 'good guy' he can easily quit the moment he sees a ally die...and then starts shooting his former comrades without hesitation because they're all baddies...despite the death of an ally being what triggered his moral confliction with killing...".
    So they completely missed the chance to give us the realistic perspective of (as they established within the film itself) a guy who was kidnapped as a child and turned into a soldier (alongside all the others). That kind of thing is both dystopian AF, and makes for such a great way to tell a story about how hard it would be just to break yourself of that lifelong conditioning and then even have that inner struggle of fighting against other Troopers who you realize don't know any better. Like the First Order was essentially just an army of kidnapped child soldiers. That should be a HORRIFYING realization for the Resistance to learn (and be incredibly demoralizing), and in a setting that is always trying to tell stories of hope/redemption, would have paved the way for a epic narrative of someone like Finn trying to free all the others from that servitude.

    • @ramblinnernd5905
      @ramblinnernd5905 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Well Finn did see a bunch of terrified civilians get wasted by his former comrades.
      I guess unlike his unit he at least had a shred of empathy?

    • @danishsabri6167
      @danishsabri6167 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Isn’t Agent Kallis a small example too?

    • @blackc1479
      @blackc1479 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Eh, don't bother waiting for something deep from the rat. It'll never get past committee.
      Granted it doesn't have the budget, but Soldier w Kurt Russell was almost that exact premise.
      And that's what honks me off about the clone commando books getting dropped. It was probably the best example of getting you inside that mindset.
      Though i guess the difference in a comparison between the two movies it's notable that Finn "breaks out" of his robotic conditioning and just kinda becomes a regular soldier w better aim than most of his peers, but no problem w wasting them.
      Todd in soldier gets literally thrown away, and is forced to find a new group, but his mindset never really changes. He just executes his job against his former replacements with the same robotic determination.

    • @blackc1479
      @blackc1479 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@ramblinnernd5905 from all other indicators that should have been trained out of him to even be a stormtrooper. It's even shown in "classic" troopers that to get through the training that kind of empathy would have to be stomped out.
      I guess it's given in a hand wavey kind of way that he's the one in a million one, but it just doesn't jive with the whole premise.
      Hell, andor fits the bill better in a lot of ways. Ruthless, dedicated, not afraid of doing ugly jobs. Finn could have been brought around, after doing really nasty stuff in his former job, he finally breaks. Plus the potential for the added drama of the distrust a formerly effective/notorious trooper trying to defect and earn the trust of those he had previously tormented.
      .......
      Damn. That's what they should have done w phasma lol 😆

    • @captnwinkle
      @captnwinkle ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No one with self respect cate about the First Order

  • @ryandegrave8978
    @ryandegrave8978 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    As a kid, I assumed that the Stormtroopers used some sort of HUD to "see" inside their helmet and that Luke didn't know how to turn it on or use it. An easy canon explanation would be that the helmets are activated by a Stormtrooper saying their serial number, or a retina scan. Failing the security lock, Luke wouldn't be able to use the HUD. This also explains Rex not being able to use a Stormtrooper helmet.

    • @patrickrada2923
      @patrickrada2923 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I generally agree with you, but the Stormtrooper armor and helmet technology is based on the Clone Trooper armor technology, which in turn is based on the Mandalorian armor technology.
      *Rex* knew the technology of the clone trooper armor and should therefore know how the stormtrooper helmet systems work.
      He probably also knew that he was not recognized by the system as an unauthorized user and was therefore blocked and did not have the means to overcome the blockage and/or deceive the system.
      I'd say *Dave Filoni* didn't know or didn't care about *Karen Traviss'* RC stories and wanted to make that old Stormtrooper joke.

    • @ryandegrave8978
      @ryandegrave8978 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@patrickrada2923 Rex might have known that the helmet wouldn't work for him, but that doesn't mean that he knew how difficult it would be to see without the system. He would have never experienced this before. Also, his helmets were designed specifically for him and his clone brothers. The Stormtrooper helmets were of a generic "one size fits all" design. So Rex might have thought that it wouldn't be as difficult as it turned out to be. On the other hand, maybe the design and HUD were so different than what he was used to that this is the reason he had trouble with it. Idk, just a thought.

    • @badtimebadtime8410
      @badtimebadtime8410 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This was actually true in the legends, I think as it is to the canon

    • @iankummer
      @iankummer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You are the one sane person in the comments😂

    • @iankummer
      @iankummer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@patrickrada2923ok but you are referencing much later media. There is no reason to think advanced military tech would be bad or ineffective.

  • @proMO7ED
    @proMO7ED ปีที่แล้ว +77

    8:45 Headcanon: Battel droid "optics" also perceive everything on the ultra-violett spectrum, so clone trooper armor -whilst appearing white to us - may be actually coated in an uv-camouflage-paint, therefore beeing effective against the clone's main foes.

    • @paulaccuardi9071
      @paulaccuardi9071 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then why not just make them completely transparent to uv light?

    • @voidtempering8700
      @voidtempering8700 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@paulaccuardi9071 Don't think it works like that.

    • @jasperzanovich2504
      @jasperzanovich2504 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@paulaccuardi9071 Then they would see naked clone troopers, I don't think you can beat robots by causing mass confusion.

    • @paulaccuardi9071
      @paulaccuardi9071 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jasperzanovich2504 I bet hadvar could do it

    • @dragonfell5078
      @dragonfell5078 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@paulaccuardi9071 "You're finally awake!"

  • @Nocturne05
    @Nocturne05 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    I'd like to point out that since these helmets were the equivalent of NSA bluetooth headphones, that any time a rebel put one on they probably disabled it.
    In episode 4 we see this when Luke and Han acquired some storm trooper gear; their CO couldn't reach them over coms.
    I'm willing to bet disabling the spy features on the cams also disable the rest of the gear in the helmet, including optics. This is why Rex, Luke and the rest of them couldn't see anything in the helmets.

    • @projektkobra2247
      @projektkobra2247 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Episode 4?...Ah you mean "Star Wars"...yeah...that, "CO couldnt reach them" thing was a ruse to get them into the control centre.
      They could hear just fine.

    • @asserkortteenniemi4878
      @asserkortteenniemi4878 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@projektkobra2247 source: trust me bro

    • @projektkobra2247
      @projektkobra2247 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@asserkortteenniemi4878 -Source, use your head, bro. Dont read so much into it like some people I could mention.

    • @asserkortteenniemi4878
      @asserkortteenniemi4878 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@projektkobra2247 And don't claim to know with absolute certainty things that doesn't have an absolute answer. Was it a ruse? Yea. But could the comms still be broken as well? Yeah, who knows?
      So you could use your head as well.

    • @projektkobra2247
      @projektkobra2247 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@asserkortteenniemi4878 -You're an idiot. If the "comms were broken", that would be shown in the film...Nothing in a film is there without a reason.
      Anal-retentive, pedantic nitwits like you give all us geeks a bad name.

  • @g3n3ral1nsanity5
    @g3n3ral1nsanity5 ปีที่แล้ว +242

    I frigging love Rex when he gets ticked and tosses the helm at the trooper 😂👍 easy top star wars moment right there

    • @critteniousrex3580
      @critteniousrex3580 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I always figured that the rebels had agents that worked for Empire who would slowly sabotage Imperial gear design.
      Inject a slight design flaw in the storm troopers eye pieces or make their blasters more powerful but less accurate which wouldn’t matter as long as there were shooting by the dozens.

    • @pope2552
      @pope2552 ปีที่แล้ว

      that shit was stupid

    • @g3n3ral1nsanity5
      @g3n3ral1nsanity5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pope2552 lol

  • @rarewhiteape
    @rarewhiteape ปีที่แล้ว +60

    A footnote on Andrew Ainsworth and his copyright infringing helmets: he was found to have infringed Lucasfilm’s copyright in California and the UK, but a technicality based on whether it was an artistic sculpture or an industrial prop in the UK has allowed him to continue making replicas and other merchandise based on the original mould he still had in his possession.

    • @gospyro
      @gospyro ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It was more than that, he claims he was the one who did the original sculpture. He’s done the same for other movies he’s worked on.

    • @berniethekiwidragon4382
      @berniethekiwidragon4382 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is a lot of debate over who owns what in this case. What I don't like about this is Lucas was clearly the far more powerful party and threw his weight around. Did he even try to resolve this before escalating to litigation?

    • @gospyro
      @gospyro ปีที่แล้ว

      @@berniethekiwidragon4382 I don't know what Lucas did prior to taking the Ainsworth to court, and before I knew the details, I was pissed at Lucas for going after someone who was making something Lucas was not even trying (at that time) to sell. I have a full set of armor from Ainsworth (and a couple helmets) that I bought before the lawsuit.
      But then I found out more about Ainsworth and what a complete dick he is. Ainsworth wasn't just making the armor and selling it, he was claiming HE did all the design an mold making. He's also done with with other movies where ALL he did was cast parts from molds he was loaned.
      When I bought my armor from him, he only claimed that he still had the helmet molds and some foam covers for the rest of the armor that Lucas hadn't retreived after he was done vacuum forming the armor.
      I don't know what exactly make Lucas go after Ainsworth, but there were several other people making and selling helmets and suits that Lucas did not go after.

    • @berniethekiwidragon4382
      @berniethekiwidragon4382 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@gospyro From what you are saying, it sounds like there are no saints in this.

    • @michaelrolkosky4712
      @michaelrolkosky4712 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@berniethekiwidragon4382 well George wasn't being greedy its just he owned star wars and wasn't going to allow someone to do something with star wars that he didn't want

  • @rexlumontad5644
    @rexlumontad5644 ปีที่แล้ว +490

    No matter how much the Stormtroopers were given moments to show how badass and scary they are meant to be, the Star Wars fandom will always remember them as a bunch of Mooks who sucks at shooting and dying in droves.

    • @spiritfox6066
      @spiritfox6066 ปีที่แล้ว +109

      No, I'll always remember them for taking out a squad of rebels in a small hallway, taking minimal casualties. I always hated star wars messing them up.

    • @Cmmdre977
      @Cmmdre977 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      Honestly that reputation can be easily changed if they wanted to change it. Instead we get the mandalorian and obi wan and the rise of skywalker that has them die in droves. If Star Wars media really tried to make stormtroopers great again, you’d see that reputation quickly change

    • @207KalashBoy
      @207KalashBoy ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Well, if the people they fought didn't have plot armor, we'd get to see what they're actually capable of.

    • @akotarakz
      @akotarakz ปีที่แล้ว +35

      I disagree. If hypothetically from this very moment onwards all Star Wars production suddenly begins to portray stormtroopers as very accurate shooters, incorporating proper squad fire and maneuver elements, using their N-20 Baradium-core thermal detonators to flush out enemies behind cover or when entering rooms/bunkers, having basic hand-to-hand combat skills, continue fighting after being shot or hit with a blunt object in the armor, always wound or severely wound main characters when encountered, in approximately 3 to 4 years people will forget about the "incompetent" stormtroopers that had infested the Star Wars Universe.
      Then to make the narrative for the main characters believable, have them regularly encounter Imperial Navy Troopers or Imperial Army Troopers that would be easier to defeat, since they would not be so fanatical, have less armor and don't have many drills after completing their basic training.

    • @M5YUILL
      @M5YUILL ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Honestly the end episode of Andor the Stormtroopers were pretty damn effective except the guy who got told to solo storm the tower. But I blame the commander for that. He was dead the moment that order was given. No back up on a target that is probably prepared to be attacked.

  • @Fletchman1313
    @Fletchman1313 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    10:15 Could also be why the 501st is so strong. People who were bullied in the past are bound together with the armor, and gives them an identity. And they gain the confidence to do what they think is right. Which in this case is a lot of good stuff, like visiting children's hospitals and things.

  • @farseer2043
    @farseer2043 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    In universe, clone trooper armor was inspired by Mandalorian armor worn by Jango Fett, so Kaminoans didn't design it from scratch.

    • @TheBrownCoyote
      @TheBrownCoyote ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He was talking about the stormtrooper armor. Which is inherently based upon clone trooper designs, NOT Mandalorian designs, even though the clone trooper design was inspired upon by the Mandalorians.

    • @mikaelwojciechowski7281
      @mikaelwojciechowski7281 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheBrownCoyote And I dare saying Clone Trooper armor suits battle better than their Stormtrooper counterpart. ;)

    • @Anakondrai
      @Anakondrai 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mikaelwojciechowski7281 Who doesn't I mean its really hard to see in them because of how small the visors were.

  • @Name-ps9fx
    @Name-ps9fx ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The blaster sights are connected to the "eyes" of the helmet via a Bluetooth-type connection, so the trooper always has a perfect view of the precise point of aim. The body armor also includes a short range scanner, and via the same eyepiece connection the trooper can "see" all around him, like VR goggles today. It has to be reconnected each time the helmet is put back on, otherwise you can only straight out the eye ports.
    That's my theory anyway. It takes into account significant tactical advantages for the stormtrooper, their legendary aim, AND why Luke and Han couldn't see anything.

    • @corvidconfidential8826
      @corvidconfidential8826 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Old comment but it would be somewhat confirmed in the mandalorian. Dinn's helmet has those features and when he+mayfeld posed in the imperial outfits, mayfeld couldn't see out of his. Dinn has his creed so he couldn't complain, and it's honestly probably used to it, but mayfeld used to be a sharpshooter so he would've had the experience in the helmets if they didn't have a link like you mentioned. The fact he couldn't wear it implies you're correct.

  • @AlexandreParchomenko
    @AlexandreParchomenko ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I feel like the jokes about Stormtroopers' armor, helmets and their skills have pretty much gone full circle and become canon now. Obi-Wan statement was the right one initially but with all the years, jokes and clichés (and maybe taking too seriously a scene that wasn't shot with a serious realistic intent in mind, for example, in an action movie, soldiers jumping to the side after a motorcycle barely brushed them) people can't see stormtroopers any other way, which is sad.

    • @mauvenumnum5320
      @mauvenumnum5320 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Stormtroopers are probably 1000 times more accurate than modern soldiers

  • @alloydog613
    @alloydog613 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Actually, the British used red because it was the cheapest colour at the time. The same reason many French regiments wore "off-white": unbleached wool, because it too was very cheap.

  • @rexlumontad5644
    @rexlumontad5644 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    10:14 Palpatine: "They are the legions of my best troops in the Empire!"
    Ewoks: "Meat's back on the menu, everyone!"

    • @matthewcaughey8898
      @matthewcaughey8898 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Clearly stormtrooper recruitment standards dropped from the days of the Death Star

    • @noktinnkynoktinnky1329
      @noktinnkynoktinnky1329 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Well they don't have reinforcement on endor now do they?

  • @evilchaosboy
    @evilchaosboy ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Hmmm. I was hoping we'd get "Stormtrooper Vision", so WE may judge how clear or unclear their sight really is. It only seems logical that vision and fit would be of a high order therefore producing a more accurate and deadly Trooper. In the movies, though, they were portrayed as kind of a "bunglish" group (starting at the point where that poor bugger bounces his melon off the blast door)

  • @enzoamore8971
    @enzoamore8971 ปีที่แล้ว +300

    The helmets have a facial recognition that detects known stormtroopers to let them be able to see through their helmets. Anyone else who wears them, the helmet will automatically shut off. You have to be authorized to wear them in order for them to work

    • @redkhan3788
      @redkhan3788 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Really ? But how luke and Han steal and use them then ?

    • @nicholashodges201
      @nicholashodges201 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      I remember reading somewhere that the armor, helmet including is custom fitted to the wearer.
      That means someone smaller or larger than regs would have issues with the helmet due to their eyes not lining up.
      As far as "shutting off" I'm pretty sure that's just advanced functions like the HUD

    • @sinisterisrandom8537
      @sinisterisrandom8537 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Which is also a dumb functionality Enzo since any damage to any of the components means the helmet hud no longer works. But then your probably dead or knocked out cold as well

    • @sinisterisrandom8537
      @sinisterisrandom8537 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@redkhan3788 nothing stops a person from using the armor. It's just you can't see thing except what you see from inside the helmet. No hud though.

    • @doomlegion557
      @doomlegion557 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@sinisterisrandom8537 more then likely a way for them to deter people stealing them sense you can't see shit unless you recode said helmet but then you got people just wearing them in canon like it don't mean nothing

  • @IAmTanker
    @IAmTanker ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My personal headcanon for "Only imperial Stormtroopers are so precise" is that Obi-wan was thinking of their accuracy being nearly as good as clones because even with his few run ins with stormtroopers he probably has a preconception that they would be accurate.
    His experiences fighting them probably didn't change his mind due to the fact he dealt with them nearly as easily, if not with more difficulty, as he did the 501st in the temple.

    • @ryandegrave8978
      @ryandegrave8978 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Except that his assessment was correct. It was Stormtroopers that attacked the ship in question, meaning they were the ones who were so precise.

  • @reddwynmerriweather6961
    @reddwynmerriweather6961 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Alan, minor point of order. The selection of Red (scarlet) for British line infantry was ... COST! they could get the vermillion dye dirt cheap and in large quantifies from India and other colonial sources.

  • @joemck74
    @joemck74 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Trooper helmets could record bio-metrics and show superiors if a Trooper was suffering 'anxiety or distress' whilst following brutal orders - allowing them to send said Trooper for a 'refresher course'' in indoctrination.
    And the nerve of Lukas suing that guy for trying to pay for his kids college. If he was a 'decent businessman' he would have sent the guy a 'Cease & Desist' order - then paid for the kids college himself (at least). Instead of suing a guy who did him a big favour in the past and obviously *doesn't have any money* to be sued for - which was why he was making the damn helmets! Dick.

  • @MistahFox
    @MistahFox ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Cosplayer here; I think it's a bit goofy Rex of all people criticizes Stormtrooper visibility, since in my experience Stormtrooper visibility is decent with flaws (you can't see down and in front of you) but T-visors are much worse. It's also interesting how Halo helmets have a focus on visibility despite them not having to be worn by real people unlike in Star Wars.
    Edit: I'd also like to mention that the idea that the armor gives the troopers extra confidence is absolutely true. I'm almost a completely different person in Stormtrooper armor; it has enough mobility to slouch, yet I stand perfectly straight because of the confidence it gives me.

  • @faevoryn6578
    @faevoryn6578 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Alan, I love how you bring human meaning into even the simplest subject, like helmets.

  • @tkgawa
    @tkgawa ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's really fascinating to know that the Stormtroopers are being recorded; it explains their lack of talkativeness which in turn makes them seem more intimidating. Concerning the white color of the Stormtroopers, I found it really refreshing when they showed the tan Tropical trooper design in Andor when he is being arrested/ conscripted for labor. I would like to see more of those specific variants and chalk up the predominance of white to an overproduction of those highly Clone Trooper influenced designs.

  • @AdmiralStoicRum
    @AdmiralStoicRum ปีที่แล้ว +9

    A funny gag in a scene with a guy who doesn't know how to work his equipment really ruined what was meant to be a viable and rather severe threat. (Luke in 'A New Hope')
    They tried to backtrack it in non-theatrical media, but Warfing and plot armor makes it impossible for today's audience to accept it. The joke has seeped into subsequent media and taken what is meant to be disciplined and capable shocktroops into inept, mindless, and faceless fodder. Grinds my gears.

    • @chasedavidson2855
      @chasedavidson2855 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me too. I'd prefer our heros beating a formidable and dangerous threat than just being smarter than imbeciles

    • @brodriguez11000
      @brodriguez11000 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chasedavidson2855 The Borg, in that other franchise.

  • @khyronkravshera7774
    @khyronkravshera7774 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    They could just have the eye holes for aesthetics and have the troopers see a 3D VR style image projected inside the helmet.

    • @AlexandreParchomenko
      @AlexandreParchomenko ปีที่แล้ว

      I always imagined that was the case, some 90s videogame might have introduced me to that idea !

    • @shcdemolisher
      @shcdemolisher ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Given the tech that Star wars has shown in expanded universe, it's not out of the realm of possibility!

  • @DavidBlockley
    @DavidBlockley ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The stormtrooper helmet was sculpted by Liz Moore based on McQarrie's concept sketches. Andrew Ainsworth only vav formed them using her sculpts, he didn't design anything. No matter where you sit on the controversy around Ainsworth selling them, not mentioning this incredibly talented artist who died too soon yet created this modern icon is a terrible oversight in this episode.

  • @toastyrules8221
    @toastyrules8221 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Huge clarification, Obi-Wan isn't referring to the individual precision, but rather the overall groupings of blaster hits. Tusken would fight in very loose if any formation, Stormtrooper on the other hand would shoot in groups. Also Luke and Rex having trouble seeing trough helmets not fitted for them is just a problem any visored helmet has.

  • @theterribleclaw4285
    @theterribleclaw4285 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can only think of 2 reasons why Ben Kenobi would say that, one he was going senial, 2 maybe he'd just got to the Empire was still using Clone Troopers and their armor.

  • @HotDogTimeMachine385
    @HotDogTimeMachine385 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    "Every stormtrooper helmet recorded data not unlike body cams worn by police officers, but unlike police body cams..." ...stormtroopers likely can't just turn them off and on whenever it suits them, something cops have often done. Or just not released body cam footage even when it would be integral to do so.

  • @timderoche7838
    @timderoche7838 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There's also alot of security built into these helmets, the biometrics might have registered different and thus refused to work as intended and the reason they had trouble seeing is because they had to see through the eye ports instead of seeing with the enhancements and addons that a fully unlocked helmet would provide

  • @MegaDrain
    @MegaDrain ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My head canon for when Obi Wan told Luke that the accurate shots being from stormtroopers was just his way of telling Luke to not underestimate the empire. Even if most of em are goobers, that one trooper could get lucky and you're dead.

  • @thelieutenant7732
    @thelieutenant7732 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I always thought the armor was white so it absorbed less heat and could reflect some of the blaster bolts, but then the Death Troopers came along with full black armor that completely changed my theory

  • @yoface2537
    @yoface2537 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So the thing with Luke is that the prop holes weren't cut properly and the rex line was a reference to the line from mark Hammill that was left in

  • @Angry_Squirrel555
    @Angry_Squirrel555 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Stormtrooper helmet was indeed derived from the Clone troopers, however those were derived from the Mandalorian helmet design.

  • @alexmendoza2688
    @alexmendoza2688 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's funny is that my dad has an old D6 Starwars ttrpg rulebook, and the Stormtrooper helmets did give a bonus to the wearer's accuracy, HOWEVER that bonus only applied to moving targets. Which if we look at eps 4, 5, and 6, most of the gunfights in those movies are very static, with the combatants mainly taking cover and holding their positions.
    So functionally speaking looking at the portrayal of the helmets, it both makes sense on how stormtroopers could be considered "accurate" when shooting at (presumably) fleeing jawas, yet in a static fight like the opening invasion of the Tantive IV (Leia's ship) how most of the stormtroopers could blatantly miss targets that are essentially standing still.

  • @ducklinsenmayer7681
    @ducklinsenmayer7681 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had always figured the material and color are to help absorb some of the energy from incoming plasma fire, thus protecting the wearer- and while it's canon is a bit iffy these days, the armor design was old, going all the way back to Revan days.

    • @shcdemolisher
      @shcdemolisher ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Design wise yes it has been very old from the Old republic days, like what we see Imperial and Republic forces wear during that long millennia of war.

  • @fractalelf7760
    @fractalelf7760 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The reason folks like Lucas have to resort to the lawyers for copyright infringement I have been told is if they don’t act - it opens the door with precedence to worse infringements - so the lawyers advise clients to immediately seek a cease and desist action.

    • @gospyro
      @gospyro ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ainsworth was also claiming he sculpted the original helmets, which he did not do. He’s also been called out by other designers/artists for claiming he designed suits and armor in other movies, when in fact all he did was cast/form them.

  • @johnhodgson4216
    @johnhodgson4216 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Helmet could have a HUD display in the Helmet itself, and Luke is not a authorized user; so the HUD didn't work for Luke.

  • @maybesushi5352
    @maybesushi5352 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I say we go back to Clone Armor, I refuse to see these unsightly designs every time I go out into town. If I have to get harassed I’d rather it look cool

  • @akaBoG
    @akaBoG ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dark Side? For protecting his IP? Ridiculous.

  • @ChiChiLand299
    @ChiChiLand299 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Maybe they weren't Stormtroopers that shot it up maybe it was a carefully coordinated strategy set with Obi-Wan and some rebel friends to make Luke join the resistance, lol

    • @chasedavidson2855
      @chasedavidson2855 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lars homestead was an inside job

    • @ChiChiLand299
      @ChiChiLand299 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@chasedavidson2855 indeed lol
      Find out it was boba Fett and black crescenta that did it

  • @user-Jay178
    @user-Jay178 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The helmet really do have a lot of flaws lol, but they look cool.

  • @GreenBlueWalkthrough
    @GreenBlueWalkthrough ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Both Luke's "I can't see" and Ben kanobi's "Their marksmen" can work as the storm troops just need to take time to aim ethheir with Abrams Tank like aim asset or you know the sight/walk it in/great shots just not when flustered.

    • @onlypeaceindeath
      @onlypeaceindeath ปีที่แล้ว

      Or Luke is simply too short and the helmet fell over his eyes.

  • @the_once-and-future_king.
    @the_once-and-future_king. ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Scariff. Hoth. Endor. The Rebel scum got pwned.
    The ONLY reason they missed in Ep 4 (apart from plot armour), was BECAUSE THEY WERE ORDERED TO BY TARKIN.
    LONG LIVE THE EMPIRE!

  • @dj1NM3
    @dj1NM3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm pretty sure that we are suffering from over-analysing of the fictional functions of a sci-fi prop.
    In the films and TV shows, the Stormtrooper's helmets perform whatever function is required to push the story forwards.
    I don't think we're supposed to look *that* closely.

  • @donwillman4587
    @donwillman4587 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The ancient Persians had Immortals. Infantry with complete headcovers so they all look the same. This made it more intimidating to their enemy as when one was killed, another who looked exactly like him would then be in your face- like then can't be killed.

  • @RotalHenricsson
    @RotalHenricsson ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Actually... what's the canon these days on Obi-Wan leaving Tattooine outside of his brief show-excursion? Could his idea of "accurate storm troopers" be a mistake because he thinks the Empire is still using clone troopers, just renamed?

    • @Padgriffin
      @Padgriffin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I doubt Obi-Wan was completely cut off from the outside world- he would’ve atleast known that they were humans by reading the news. I doubt Tattooine didn’t at the very least have an Imperial recruiting station.

    • @SeviathTheHumanDrago
      @SeviathTheHumanDrago ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Padgriffin They Did have a recruiting base. Luke explicitly says in episode 4 he wanted to submit his application to the academy this harvest.

  • @wh8787
    @wh8787 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always assumed the white armour was because the primary function was ship boarding and kind of "policing" actions where camouflage was irrelevant. The rebellion wasn't really considered a threat until quite late, and even when it was, it was more on the level of star ship level fights, not really infantry combat. Its not really until Endor that white armour becomes obviously a very stupid idea, and even then, Palpatine thought that the rebels were walking into a trap and hopelessly outnumbered. White armour, like black armour is intimidating. I never really thought the storm troopers were meant to fight a protracted war, they're just meant to drop in, murder everyone, then leave.

    • @mauvenumnum5320
      @mauvenumnum5320 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 41e elite corps wears camo armor suit when deployed

  • @andrewkelley4796
    @andrewkelley4796 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When the helmet is taken off all the helmet 's sensors are turned off, which makes it harder for thieves to properly use them or sell them on the black market. Also sometimes stormtroopers are ordered to miss, so they can follow their enemies back to their base. Another thing that should be noted is stormtroopers are not as experienced as clone troopers.
    Clone trooper training was more rigorous then stormtrooper training. Clones were being prepared to go to war since the moment they were born. Stormtroopers were more like police than actual soldiers, since they weren't at war until the formation of the Rebellion. Also when the actual war finally started, the experience stormtroopers had gotten sloppy and lazy due to the lack of actual combat. So to make up for this they continue to recruit and train new soldiers to make up for this. But since they wanted to rely more on their numbers, the training was just passable so that most would pass and still be of some use. If the training was too brutal, most of them would probably quit. They needed enough men to police and control the galaxy, which led to them cutting corners. If it was one planet, then they could have devoted more time to properly train their soldiers. In truth what made the Empire so powerful was not the soldiers, but the deadly technology they used. For example their starfighters, Star Destroyers, and the Death Star. Technology was the true power of the Empire, they just needed enough men to use the technology. But as we know this ultimately backfired on them.
    They did have more advanced versions of the stormtroopers like the death troopers, but they definitely didn't have enough of them. Honestly they should have gave all their soldiers cybernetic enhancements and drugs to enhance them further. Finally if ever soldier had armor and weapons like the clone commandos, then the stormtroopers would have been more powerful. Another thing is this Palpatine should have used a combination of clones and non-clones to make his army. The non-clones would have filled in the stormtrooper ranks, while the clones would have filled in for the more advanced soldiers (super soldiers).

  • @montywh
    @montywh ปีที่แล้ว

    slightly off topic from this, but i remember an interesting tidbit about Stormtrooper armor. and it's actually really good when you look at it in action. through all the media, when you see the usual blaster shootout going on, all the stray shots that land result in an explosion upon impact. whether it's hitting rocks, trees, vehicles, etc. but look at any scene of a Stormtrooper getting shot. the blaster shot doesn't explode. it seems to just nullify on impact, sometimes leaving a small burn mark. the trooper is likely still dead, as the force still knocks them on their back. but the external visible damage is extremely mitigated thanks to the armor

  • @johngz3413
    @johngz3413 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Obi Wans' comments about how accurate those shots are is ironic... Look at all the pointless blaster hits.... Tuskan raiders can hit moving pod racers....

  • @petrpinc7695
    @petrpinc7695 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    British Red Coats had red uniforms, because colour red was the cheapest colour British government could buy at time of designing their uniforms. In other words Red Coats could have been Blue Coats or Pink Coats, if those colours were the cheapest ones on market.

    • @TheThingInMySink
      @TheThingInMySink ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They did actually choose other colours because of cost and more importantly availability, some loyalist regiments during the American war of independence wore green, and while they were mostly light infantry and cavalry, the real reason why those uniforms were chosen is because that's the dye the manufacturers had in large quantities. You see other armies like the Russian army during the great northern war wear mainly green, but also red and blue. The French famously were a mess, while they had their white uniforms before the revolution, there were also regiments wearing red green and blue. Red dye and paint is very common historically for a very long time, and while the myth of the entirely red Roman Legions has been busted, as they had no actual uniform, they did still heavily utilize red as a common dye.
      Also, fun fact: the British did in fact wear pink, sometimes. Offcers had a lot more say in the exact shade of red they used for their custom tailored uniforms, and in some paintings particularly from the late 1700's you can see British officers wearing a dizzying variety of shades of red, from very deep and dark reds, to bright reds, to almost orange and even very faded, pretty much pink colours. The uniform of the average infantryman however was typically a more muted red, while a common feature of officers uniforms is their much more vibrant and bright red colour.

    • @benlake710
      @benlake710 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheThingInMySink Something else to consider, besides that fact that some uniforms might have been dyed a lighter or darker shade, is also that all uniforms simply fade in use. Then, as now, a given soldier might have had a spare uniform or not, and a bright new uniform would certainly fade with use.
      Some decades ago when I was a new recruit (US Army) we started basic training with dark uniforms, and we noticed the soldiers farther along in training no longer had that same dark green uniform we had.
      Then, when I went to a follow-on training school, we again noticed that some of the most seasoned instructors had very faded uniforms, and we probably subconsciously considered that this only added to their credibility. So one weekend, while off base at a local surplus store, a buddy noticed that they carried nicely used and faded uniforms among the gear sold off by departing soldiers. So he bought a few pairs, had his name and patches sewn on... and boom!... he instantly looked a experienced trooper instead of a new recruit. Now, in the very back of my closet, I still have a few faded sets of BDUs, alongside a still bright set, that I only wore a few times for a spare or inspection.

  • @HolyknightVader999
    @HolyknightVader999 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Legends canon says otherwise. Stormtrooper armor is quite decent, it's just that it's hard to get for non-Imperials. Hell, in the Force Unleashed 2 comic, Stormtrooper helmets have tons of vision modes, and fetch a hefty price on the black market.

  • @PyroMancer2k
    @PyroMancer2k ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "It adopted a whole new purpose in the empire which didn't wage war against separatist and droid armes, now the empire waged war against it's own people."
    So Actually nothing has changed. The Separatist were it's own people, they just wanted to leave and form their own government.

  • @blr4I6
    @blr4I6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Stormtrooper helmets were locked to the specific user, almost entirely shutting down if a different person used them.

  • @MereelSkirata
    @MereelSkirata ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Stormtrooper helmets contain a HUD and vision enhancing modes with targeting assist. When Luke claimed he couldn't see anything he was more than likely talking about the fact he was not used to the HUD and the fact the helmet was not his size and had never worn one before. Han doesn't seem to have the same issues as he would have been familiar with the pilot helmets he was training with before he was run into the Army.

    • @GamingWithThenixTurk
      @GamingWithThenixTurk ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m pretty sure there was only 1 size, of armor and helmet, I recently watched a video on storm troopers, and it talked about that storm troopers were pretty elite soldiers, and they had to “fit” the armor, thus they had to be a certain shape, and size to actually become a stormtrooper

    • @FalconWindblader
      @FalconWindblader ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GamingWithThenixTurk Except that you CAN'T practically do that. regular people are NOT clones. there're only so many people who'd fit every single piece of the equipment in the exact same sizes. dish out strictly 1 size for everything, & the Stormtrooper corps would've been much, much, MUCH smaller than what we've seen so far. the more realistic situation would be that while there're strict size & height requirements to fill in order to become a Stormtrooper, the equipment would still come in several sizes with very small variations in between them.

    • @GamingWithThenixTurk
      @GamingWithThenixTurk ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FalconWindblader well, it is star wars.

  • @MrChupacabra555
    @MrChupacabra555 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had always thought the helmets had some kind of 'Heads Up Display' inside to compensate for the otherwise lack of visibility. (which of course makes them useless without any power).

  • @bigbuck1318
    @bigbuck1318 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shockmaster in WCW wrestling had a storm trooper helmet. He tripped making his debut.

  • @jmhallman380
    @jmhallman380 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I always thought Rex saying he couldn't see out of the helmet, was because he always had the T shaped visor for his helmet. So he wasn't used to the more stormtrooper like visor of the phase II helmet.

    • @estebannunez6902
      @estebannunez6902 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wasn't phase 3 armor for stormtroopers since the clones r using phase 2 armor?

    • @jmhallman380
      @jmhallman380 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@estebannunez6902 ya

    • @estebannunez6902
      @estebannunez6902 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jmhallman380 ah okidokey just wanna confirm 👍

  • @MaliciousMallard
    @MaliciousMallard ปีที่แล้ว

    In legends, stormtrooper helmets had a HUD that was biolinked to the trooper it was assigned to. It gave them great tactical readouts but if anyone else tried to wear it, the helmet would lock them out so they weren’t able to see very well

  • @teslapunk5999
    @teslapunk5999 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I assumed the helmets were mass produced, meaning they might not always be made correctly for every stormtrooper that was given a standard issue outfit.
    Even with the whole standardization thing and the bureau, it’s a BIG galaxy. Not every factory that produces the stormtrooper armor is going to be a winner.

    • @shcdemolisher
      @shcdemolisher ปีที่แล้ว

      Mass produced but they know that every human is different.

  • @HarryFlashmanVC
    @HarryFlashmanVC ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here's another thing about Storm Troopers. A brother of a friend of mine was a Storm Trooper on the original New Hope.. he said the helmets were bloody awful, he also said that there were only about 12 of them.. when he told me this I said that I didn't belive him because obviously the Death Star had legions of fecking Storm Troopers running around... 12! Pah! 😁

  • @Jourell1
    @Jourell1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fun fact, "I can't see a thing in this helmet" wasn't scripted, it was a genuine complaint by Mark Hamil who didn't think they were rolling yet. Though I haven't seen official confirmation, I'm pretty sure that Rex's complaint before he throws the helmet was a callback to it.

  • @kotori87gaming89
    @kotori87gaming89 ปีที่แล้ว

    "A hundred thousand units are ready, with a million more well on the way" - Kaminoan cloner
    I never thought a million clones would be enough for a galaxy-spanning war against mass-produced, factory-built battle droids. Heck, we vastly exceeded those numbers in WWII on just a single planet. Those "hundred thousand units" could only refer to combat units, probably battalion-sized or larger, as well as crews for starships, fighters, and ground vehicles.

  • @FreeOpenTruth
    @FreeOpenTruth ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have to turn the helmet on to get your HUD. If you just put it on, it's dark. Think of it like a VR set that can have pass through on in 8k vision. An actual working VR/AR military helmet.

  • @colinmoore7460
    @colinmoore7460 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to think that the scopes on the guns were sighting cameras transmitting to a HUD crosshair in a helmet eye piece. I still think some clone troopers had this, but imperial stormtroopers didn't. Which partially explains the difference in marksmanship.

  • @bmad0
    @bmad0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    people give lucas to much credit for wizards in space...

  • @UnknownTuber450
    @UnknownTuber450 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    One way I like to think about is that a stormtrooper's helmet by restricting their vision helps with their precision. The reason I say this is because a sniper use scopes to pinpoint onto a location and target, not a scope that makes them see the entire area. Therefore by restricting the view of the stormtroopers they have helped them be more precise while leaving them vulnerable to ambushes since they have to focus on a certain point of the area instead of the area as a whole.

    • @jaydeleon8094
      @jaydeleon8094 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      or the 360 degree hud that it has was just turned off in canon and most everything people believe about the helmets are based on a Gag Mark hamil said. you also have to be authorized to use it, otherwise the hud wont turn on.

  • @darthsarcastus1064
    @darthsarcastus1064 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perhaps the white armour and the black body suits complement each other when it comes to energy dispersion? So a laser blaster hit is dissipated by the white outer layer and the heat absorbed by the black body suit??? They also created a laminate effect against melee combat.

  • @Likeahorse88
    @Likeahorse88 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you do a video about how all the armor seems to amplify damage instead of dampen it?
    One shot = dead
    Hit with stick = dead
    Hit by rock = dead
    I assume it’s because it’s cheap and keeping them weak makes them unable to rebel. On some level though the emperor must want his troops to be able to protect him a little… you know so 5 humanoids can’t take over an entire Death Star for example

    • @ryandegrave8978
      @ryandegrave8978 ปีที่แล้ว

      We see the Stormtroopers get shot (or hit with a rock) and fall over a lot but why are you assuming they died? I always figured the armor was absorbing some of the energy from the blaster bolt but it still hurt. I just assumed that most of them survived. Kevlar body armor with plates can stop a bullet from entering your body but the impact still hurts. I think it's the same with their armor. They're getting hit by bolts of plasma traveling at high speed, but we never see it penetrate the armor. It just knocks the wind out of them and may leave burns and/or bruising. We never even saw Stormtrooper blood until the sequels.

  • @MrMightyZ
    @MrMightyZ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sounds almost feasible but it’s a truly ridiculous concept.
    No army is going fight well together if they can’t know each other or have idle conversations. You would end up with thousands of disturbed and depressed soldiers.

  • @cursedmonkey1033
    @cursedmonkey1033 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When Luke said he couldn't see in the helmet Han should have said "you haven't got it switched on".
    The lack of apparent skill of the stormtrooper has less to do with them not being able to see and more to do with the good guys plot armor and the tendency of writers just to offer them up as blaster fodder.

  • @SpeedDemon03
    @SpeedDemon03 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My dad got a 501st movie accurate stormtrooper suit and he needs someone to walk around with him so he knows where to go as the helmet is almost impossible to see through

  • @dcitron77
    @dcitron77 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know that Disney did away with the EU, but the design of the Clone armor was actually based off Mandolorian armor and then evolved over time to become the TK design we saw in episode 4 (example being many comments made in the Republic Commando series..read those books, they're SO good). The color of the armor was on point though.

  • @JasonChamber-p9s
    @JasonChamber-p9s 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine a time before Star Wars:
    You're a random post Vietnam war airport security agent and you find a guy hauling 50 of these helmets

  • @lordwunglerbeckett
    @lordwunglerbeckett ปีที่แล้ว

    Right, so an obligatory "akchyually" comment about that mention of the redcoats:
    Back in the day, when firearms had the nasty habit of creating clouds of smoke whenever discharged en masse (coincidentally, the best way of utilising them effectively) every army, not just the British, was much keener on knowing precisely whether that company over there is friend or foe than having them blend in with the environment. What good would that do anyway, good luck concealing some five thousand men in close rank, whose weapons, to add insult to injury, produce an excess of sparks and smoke when the first salvo is fired.
    So in summary, it had everything to do with standing out, nothing to do with intimidating the enemy. You were half right, I suppose

  • @majorpain8569
    @majorpain8569 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Its not just the helmet. Stormtrooper armor appears to be worthless. I don't believe there is one case that a Stormtrooper survives being hit in combat.

    • @xenon8117
      @xenon8117 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s meant to disperse the heat of the bolts but it’s not a projectile they get hit with so if they are not killed by it then why do they go down from getting hit? Yeah the armour is worthless and is no more help than the rebel clothes.

    • @RGM79GM1
      @RGM79GM1 ปีที่แล้ว

      A bunch in Rebels get shot and survive. In Rogue One one Trooper got hit by like 7 or more shots and survived.

    • @samuraibounds
      @samuraibounds ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was originally rated to stop light blasters like the one Lyra Erso shoots Krennic with. Unfortunately, most Rebels have military grade BlasTech blasters which are far more powerful.

  • @harlech2
    @harlech2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Back about 1978 or so, the school book fair thing was still a thing... where you could order all sorts of books. I can remember ordering a portfolio of Ralph McQuarrie's Star Wars Artwork, a technical manual and a script of the entire movie. Eleven y/o me was in hog heaven. I came back to earth with prequels and was laid to rest with the sequels.

  • @etazeta674
    @etazeta674 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So to paraphrase, the entire Stormtrooper corps needs therapy and an upgrade, gotcha

  • @yourlocalplaguedoctor7023
    @yourlocalplaguedoctor7023 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's a fanfic out there where Luke works for the empire and finds out how poorly the helmets snd armor were made, and goes out of his way to make major upgrades to them. Darth Vader was very proud.

  • @NewDealDem2187
    @NewDealDem2187 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve always thought that Obi Wan was prolly referring to Clone troopers

  • @myleswelnetz6700
    @myleswelnetz6700 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Stormtroopers can’t aim because their helmets have awful visibilty.

  • @LordMorde
    @LordMorde ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i think obi wan is talking about explosive blast points. the storm troopers wouldnt have been able to take down a sand crawler with blasters, theyd probably have to blow the treads off to get the jawas to stop. hes saying that even if the tuskans had a few thermal detonators they wouldnt have had the knowledge and experience to take out the sand crawler.

  • @Cre80s
    @Cre80s ปีที่แล้ว

    I always interpreted Ben's "precise stormtrooper" line was just a way of corraling Luke towards the right answer while making Luke feel like he got there himself. We can look for ourselves and see precision had nothing to do with it, it was brute force. He was already beginning to train Luke on how to follow his gut, and Luke was lost in an obvious cover-up.

  • @jonathan4158
    @jonathan4158 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:21 I see a Captain Rex costume along with Din Djarin.

  • @timogul
    @timogul ปีที่แล้ว

    The only way Trooper helmets make sense is if they have quality cameras and VR goggles in there, so that they have a full field of view. Maybe non-Troopers who put them on don't know how to activate the more advanced visuals, so they're left with the "powered off" emergency viewport.

  • @trolly4233
    @trolly4233 ปีที่แล้ว

    My theory on the color choice is that white, at least in real life, deflects more light without heating up. Obviously every laser still pierced because rebel lasers had plot-armor-piercing but still, it works in theory. The white would simply glow brightly when hit by a laser and it would take a much more powerful beam to melt or scald. Of course, "lasers" in Star Wars are more like arrows than actual light, but it still could be true. Plus, the armor would work very well in urban places for patrolling, and the clean emptiness of the armor and its colors give an imposing feel to them.

  • @OmegaZyion
    @OmegaZyion ปีที่แล้ว

    0:35 Did you include the infamous Storm Trooper head bonk on purpose or on accident when talking about how they were form-over-function?

  • @Scarlioni
    @Scarlioni ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ehhh.... The clones and later the stormtroopers are wearing white for the same reason UN troops wear bright blue, they're peace keepers and they want to be seen.

  • @PTillA-kf7rq
    @PTillA-kf7rq ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad you mention peripheral vision. The T visor always gives more peripheral than a pair of glasses like goggles. Mostly with the T visor the peripherals can crisscross past the nose.

  • @AceSpadeThePikachu
    @AceSpadeThePikachu ปีที่แล้ว

    From a technical standpoint one reason why Stormtrooper armor is white and polished is because of what they're designed to protect against; blasters. A.K.A. lasers, A.K.A. concentrated light. Lasers cause damage to things by imparting so much light energy into an object that it heats up to the point of vaporization, causing a small explosion. However, the more light the target reflects the less energy is absorbed, and thus the less it heats up.

  • @ruufiss9922
    @ruufiss9922 ปีที่แล้ว

    getting clone armor = Graduation HighSchool
    becoming an ARC trooper = mastering a trade/getting a Degree

  • @metalmadness5851
    @metalmadness5851 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always thought that the "helmet-sight" problem was due to actual stormtroopers being very used to getting around the problems regarding sight. The stormtroopers that boarded the Tantive IV had exceptional accuracy, while many of the ones on the Death Star were more inaccurate due to probably dipping into vast numbers of required personnel.

    • @lordofuzkulak8308
      @lordofuzkulak8308 ปีที่แล้ว

      @metalmadness5851 - keep in mind the ones on the Death Star were likely deliberately missing the heroes; remember Tarkin and Vader let them escape so they could track them to the Rebel base, so it’s likely the troopers on the Death Star had orders to put on a show so that it wouldn’t be obvious that the heroes were being allowed to escape.

    • @metalmadness5851
      @metalmadness5851 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lordofuzkulak8308 That plan probably came around after they broke out of the prison, since it makes most sense to have occurred after they'd broken Leia out.

  • @Garfunkels_Funky_Uncle
    @Garfunkels_Funky_Uncle ปีที่แล้ว

    just a slight historical nitpick, 18th-century uniforms (England's Redcoats) were bright so you could tell friend from foe on the battlefield from all the smoke from muskets that was also known as the Fog of War as the smoke can linger up so much on the battlefield that visibility was very limited.

  • @Ryecrash617
    @Ryecrash617 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Lego Tie Fighter is looking pretty good today. Also, great video as always.