Why I dropped my sorority at Vanderbilt (2020)
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- I joined a sorority at Vanderbilt my freshman year and, this week, I decided to drop it. Today I am explaining what it was like being in a sorority at Vandy and why I dropped. SUBSCRIBE for new vids every single week!!
I hope this is helpful for anyone deciding on whether or not to join or drop a sorority!
Just a quick note - I am not trying to throw anyone under the bus and this video is not meant to spread any hate - these are just my experiences and own opinions. I talk about rushing/recruitment, parties, relationships between sororities and frats, and a lot more.
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as a black woman in a predominantly white sorority, i totally love this video. thank you for speaking on something so important in greek life that goes unnoticed! it’s definitely something that my sorority is actively fighting against, otherwise i could not be involved at all.
Other ones exist for a reason…
I was in a sorority at Vanderbilt and this is SPOT ON and very well-said. I think a lot of people feel this way and are afraid to say anything since the Greek culture dominates so intensely, but I wish I had dropped earlier instead of convincing myself to “stick with it” until graduation. I’m glad that people have begun to shed light on this recently; thank you for your honesty in this video!
thank you for using your platform to address issues like this especially for poc! hope you find an organization that fits your energy 👍
I’m proud of you Jackie! Thank you for shedding light on the systemic racism and elitism that exist in Greek culture. I know you stumbled across this injustice, but I appreciate that you clearly see it as a fundamental problem that POC are left out in so many ways. Please continue to be aware of these issues and use your privilege to stand against it in all areas of life. You rock girl! ❤️
Girl. You GO. I dropped my sorority when I was in college in Alabama, and I empathize with your experience. So well spoken and brave of you to explain this culture. Good luck with the rest of your academic pursuits and acting career! :)
Thank you! :)❤️
Katie, I have mad respect for you to be able to drop out. You'll thank yourself for it so much 10, 20 years from now. You'll feel a lot more independent of a person.
I started college in 1984 and I see nothing has changed. Thank you for sharing your experience. You are such a mature young woman. Stay strong.
I'm from South Africa, Idk why I'm watching this 😂😂😂😂 I just like tea
Hahaha😂😂 thanks for watching!!😄
Same sis, our res system is boring 🤣🤣
You are not alone I'm in Lagos, Nigeria watching this.
same sis we🤣🤣🤣
@@ayobolaliasu4725 this is months late but my family is from there !! it's always fun running into people from my hometown lol
I really appreciate the way you communicate and shared your story. You get straight to the point without a bunch of filler and unrelated information like some other videos I’ve seen on the topic. I wish you the best of luck in school and your career!
I’m in a sorority at the University of Alabama so I know ALL about T-shirt tuesday girl! Im so glad you mentioned the door thing, some girls will literally become a walking advertisement for their house without even realizing it. It’s intense and feels like people are all trying to one up each other. Best of luck to you at vandy and kudos to you for listening to your gut!
Ugh so true! And thank you so much!❤️❤️
Which one?! My sister just graduated from there! She’s gphi!
Thank you so much for this video. I am an alum of my sorority now, but when I was in college I was in one of my school's "lower tier" sororities (a.k.a the girls who were not extremely wealthy or didn't get asked back to another house), and while I always felt like my sorority was one of the most kind and genuine groups on campus, the way people automatically thought lesser of us when they found out which sorority we were in was so gross. My sophomore year, there was a freshman in one of my classes who I had talked to a bit both in class and at parties. She was rushing and I really liked her because she seemed very sweet and I thought she exemplified our core values. When it came time to vote on her during the first night of recruitment, I spoke on her behalf and said I'd gotten to know her through a class and thought she'd be a great fit. Immediately two other girls raised their hands and said that they'd talked to her in the first round of recruitment, and that she had been very rude to both of them and acted like she didn't want to be there. She ended up getting a "top house" and pretty much ignored me in class for the rest of the semester. I think a lot of peoples' true colors really come out when they go through recruitment/join a sorority.
This is such a great video. I'm still in high school, but I know how greek life can appear to be super important. I knew about these issues, but this video educated me so much. You're so amazing for doing this!!!! Def subscribed after this. Thank you.
girl you’re WAY too good for all of this- you seem so sweet and genuine and I appreciate your vulnerability !! 🤍🤍🤍
Welcome to the SEC. Greek Life IS Campus Life. I think the conditions at Vanderbilt are pretty common of Southern Schools honestly. Even the sororities and fraternities that are more inclusive, they get designated as lower tier or less desirable houses. And that's why NPHC and MGC orgs were created because certain students weren't allowed/embraced in certain spaces. Not saying anyone should be limited, but definitely align yourself with people that embrace you.
Exactly.
Such a great video! I dropped my sorority before initiation because I experienced some of the same things. More people need to see the truth behind Greek life!
Omg that’s so sad! I’m in a sorority at my college and my experience was so different. You’re supposed to feel uplifted and accepted into your group, not judged. ❤️
Ayeee I’m glad you have had a good experience with your sorority. Can I know which college you attend?
I just dropped my sorority yesterday!! This makes me feel so much bettwr
I pledged 2 different sororities about 20 years ago at my school. The second time I stayed with it longer...still wasn’t for me. I was more serious and didn’t really enjoy drinking. I also commuted to school so it was hard to keep up. Now 20 years later and able to share experiences online, I can say that I don’t feel as bad for my decisions. I am so happy to see a bright young person like yourself using your platform to speak out about this system. Thank you for speaking out!
Thank you! Your parents should be proud! Your video is insightful & refreshing.
thank you for sharing your story, i attend a university where we do not have sororities. I think that it is very good that you shared your story and your experience. I have heard from some of my friends on how expensive it is. I am sad to hear about the inequities in the greek life organization. Spreading awareness is so important, its important to know the information that you shared because often times not a lot of people who decide to rush may not understand or know how much of one a commitment it is, second how much financial responsibility and strain it can be. I had no idea that they can fine you if you decide that you cant make it to an event. I wish that, that would not happen, because would if a person has a family matter and the person would have to go out of town the week of an event? There are some things that are more important that a person has to take care of as well as tend to, i wish that greek life could understand that. You continue to be yourself, continue to use your platform to help address issues that are often swift under the rug. You seem so sweet and so kind, i hope that you have a great school year this year despite the current circumstances.Because of you, i have a better understanding of greek life.
Thank you so much for your kind words and for sharing your thoughts!❤️❤️
YOU are awesome! ❤️💐 Thank you for sharing your experience and highlighting this problem
Good for you, taking a stand for what you believe and know in your heart is right and true.
Thank you❤️
You're the real deal. Thanks for being an ally and for standing up for what's right. New subscriber here. :)
Thank you for your kind words❤️ and for your support!! :)
@@JackieRhoads my pleasure! As a POC I've been so conscious lately of who I'm subscribing to and what kind of messages I am hearing. This is why your video really meant a lot to me. Keep being you!! I'll happily support.
I went to a private performing arts college and we obviously didn’t have Greek life, but plenty of my close friends did go to university’s and rushed for sorority etc.
it’s a horrible system and hearing you speak about this is so important! Thank you for speaking out on this 💕
Vanderbilt! You're a smart girl! I'm sure you will do fine without your sorority.
I really appreciate your videos and this is great! I will be visiting the campus this coming weekend with my son and your channel has been immensely helpful!
Jackie thank you so much for sharing your experience! You also seem like a really dope person!
Thank you so much for making this video. I felt pressured to join because of the social status that it holds, I thought about doing COB (continuous open bidding) at my current university but was turned off by the exclusion, and time commitment described by a girl I know who dropped her sophomore year. This systematic form of exclusivity needs to be re-evaluated as a large aspect of university life.
Vanderbilt is ALL about money and status. It just is!
A true ally! Thank you for speaking out on this and putting the spotlight on these injustices.
theater over greek life every day of the week! you're going to go far
I’m in Canada and there’s very little Greek life here (which I have no problem with) and it’s so fascinating in a macabre way to hear about these systems. Fantastic video.
Thank you for being honest and sharing what you’ve experienced being part of Greek life! I go to another large public state school where even more than 50-60% of the student body is part of Greek life, and the way they create this sense of exclusivity and self-righteousness on campus is disgusting. I have overheard some of the most disturbing and offensive conversations between members of frats and sororities, and this really is a system that perpetuates racism and classism (among tons of other things like misogyny, rape culture, drug abuse, etc.). It’s possible to try and ignore it for a little while, but at some point it just poisons everything and affects everyone on campus because of how loud and common Greek life is. I appreciated your candid conversation about the serious problems with the system, and especially how sensitive you were to BIPOC and the blatant mistreatment they receive as part of it.
I know exactly what you mean about being “labeled” I didn’t get into the house I originally wanted and the house I never picked wanted me. So I ended up joining a brand new house That year. It was hilarious to see that people assumed that I was appart of the sorority I wanted to join in the first place bc they had a reputation and attitude that I fitted. I feel like the only reason why I wasn’t put in is the fact that I hate social media so my instagram was basically non existent. I admit it hurt a little bit that I wasn’t in this “top house” (my school at the time only had like 3 sororities so the idea of a tier was ridiculous ) However being in that new sorority also meant that a lot of greek life didn’t really know how to treat us and instead got to know me as a person instead of pre-assuming my personality... I ultimately ended up dropping bc I just couldn’t afford it. I had the opportunity to come back and rush again but the shallowness of Greek Life wasn’t for me anymore also the “top house” now wanted me bc of my “good reputation” even though I didn’t initiate I was loyal to the sorority I joined and I was real annoyed at my former sisters making fun of their own sisters loudly in a cafe right near school filled with people from my school... The fakeness was uncanning and I couldn’t be associated with that.... just like you said we are in college... not in high school. Also about the party stuff I found that that fraternities didn’t put girls on the list from a certain sorority... it was really sad bc they were already known as the “anti-social sorority” but how would they even get in the first place now...while in my sorority I had the best times of my college career( I’m in my 5th year now and I joined as a fr) so their is lots of good things about greek life but lots and immature bs classism too.
i absolutely love you and love that u talked about this. i respect u so so much
Clicked cause my mom went to Vandy, subscribed cause I appreciate your perspective.
I just watched Sorority Wars Yesterday!!! And I saw your video! WAHH!! LOVE YOUR VIDEOSS😍
Omggg!! THANK U!🥰
Love this!!
Thank you for this video I’ve been debating dropping my sorority at ASU and this just confirmed that I am making the right decision
Did you drop? How'd it go?
preach girl lol. i'm going through rush but I am having so many new thoughts
You are definitely a a super smart girl. good for you! hope youre doing awesome things now.
Greek at life at my school is really different than the normal experience. our school and town of the college have really strict guidelines like no greek housing (hazing incident about 20or 30 years ago) whatsoever and all orgs are monitored by the student affairs offices and the rules for our dances are also really strict and other things like that. I really do appreciate the guidelines as it makes a busy theatre major like myself able to join orgs like sororities, but as a POC myself it is difficult to be around other women and not see someone like you or share a similar culture or struggles. It’s also difficult to make those connections with other girls when you can’t fully relate to them and there is not a lot of effort to makes us feel like we are not being “other’d”. I joined my sorority to make friends outside of theatre and I do enjoy it, but also sometimes I wonder how long these organizations will stick around and what their true purpose is in today’s world.
You could’ve said anything else, but you had to say tri-kappa...KKK😂
Usually when I see "why i dropped my sorority" I assume it is about disaffiliating for rush. Thanks for sharing your story. I went to a small, not prestigious (not bad school, just nothing near Vanderbilt) school and always knew Greek life was not for me. I'm not rebelliously independent, but have always tried to do my own thing. I actually probably have the sorority look (not as much when I was in college, cause I shopped at Wal-Mart. Anyway, I did know plenty of down to earth sorority girls. I did know some who got jobs just to pay for it. I was shocked when I learned they had to pay fines for missing events. When there were always Thursday night events and early morning Friday classes (at least for Freshman) I asked why they had to go. From social media, I have noticed a bit more diversity in the sororities at my school (I graduated years ago), but they are still pretty segregated. The more I learn about Greek organizations, the more strange the dedication to the secret rituals and signs seems a bit weird.
Oh, and I got to know a few drama and music people when I was an extra in some shows(a lot of overlap at my small school) and really enjoyed hanging out with them. I still run into some of them around the state and say high.
Thanks so much for making this. I had considered joining a sorority at Vandy for a while but I was worried that I would become a token minority for a bunch of shallow rich girls. I also know I am very privileged, but I’ll have to get a LOT of scholarships to afford Vandy and the cost of Greek Life was another thing I was worried about. I’ve seen a lot of videos and blogs about middle class POC having good experiences in Greek Life, but I still wasn’t sure because I had never heard a personal account from a Vandy student. I’ll never be 100% sure about it but this video was very helpful to me!
I’m going through recruitment right now and I really appreciate your honesty and also u funny so...subscribed :)
And I’m also an aspiring actress!
Ahh! I hope it was helpful and good luck w everything :)❤️
Thanks for the information. I saw one of those door chant videos the other day and got a bit... well, scared. Being continental European, it was like watching aliens, so I was interested in what that was all about. Your video is by far the most informative one I've seen with regards to the inner workings and underlying themes of the whole concept. And cudos for doing the video, all things considered.
Thank you. Powerful use of your platform.
While I do not attend Vanderbilt, I am currently a doctoral students at another university. With this, I have attended three major universities across the US. I came across this video in my recommended, and believe your opinions of greek life are spot-on. The issues you faced, and highlighted in the video, occur at every university, not just Vanderbilt.
I went to a smaller college and I heard the same stories from my girl friends in sororities. Their experiences made me never want to join! Thank you for speaking out on this.
You have a great head on your shoulders! My daughter just went through Sorority pledging at a very competitive school and didn't get a bid from one of her desired houses. After listening to your thoughts, I'm glad she didn't. She's pretty crushed and wants to transfer. She feels uncomfortable walking around campus because of the insecurities that developed after the rejection. She isn't satisfied by the idea that she goes to a University with an 11 percent acceptance rate which to me, is most important accomplishment in itself (she made Dean's list last semester). I'm hoping she discovers your video so that she can listen to your perspective. I'm also hoping that there are women like you that she can form friendships with.
Thank you for this video! So important to talk about rn
Good for you. I didn't rush. I have friends that did and didn't. I just knew I wouldn't be happy. Classes were enough scheduled time for me. I wanted to do what I wanted with the rest of my time. It was great for me. I saw the stress some friends had being in a sorority and some just meshed well in them. A few dropped theirs as well. If it isn't something you are made for then you wont be happy. The relief I saw on my friends faces when they dropped was night and day from how they had been. Do what makes you happy.
I just found your channel and I love it!! 🥰
Yayyyy!! Thank u for watching🥰🥰🥰
I absolutely love your videos!!!
Awww thank you!!🥰🥰
Thank you for sharing your experience!
It’s so weird how recruitment isn’t so different in the SEC/south than it is in other states. My recruitment was so chill and laid back. For the time (1998) my chapter was decently diverse. It’s much more diverse now.
I really feel like this is the best decision for you! Find your people! You will find an amazing group of friends who are supportive and dynamic and not obsessed with the social aspect of university! University is such a huge time for growth and individualism and you will have an amazing time!
Thank you for your kind words!!❤️❤️
i'm from canada and attend a canadian university and sororities & frats are pretty much non existent. the extent of my greek life knowledge came from movies and other you-tubers that rush. i had no idea you were fined or that you even had to pay to join a sorority that's kinda crazy to even think about, especially with how high your tuition prices are. i applaud you for speaking up, it takes courage, but it also allows people to see a different perspective on greek life ✨😊
Same, I know uottawa has a few Greek life things but basically no one talks about it
Tori Scherle i go to trent and there’s like one group of girls who have formed a “sorority” like club but no one really talks about sororities/frats. i don’t really mind though and I don’t think others do either...🤷🏻♀️
some Canadian uni do have sororities & fraternities, like UBC, but it's definitely not as big of a part of social life as perhaps in the US
Wow Jackie, you seem to have a heart of gold. Your heart is in the right place. I'm sure not everyone in Greek Life is that way, but it's somewhat sad to see that some people like you have described do exist.
Such a helpful video! I’m in second year and I’m thinking about rushing:)
I’m glad it was helpful!❤️
This is definitely how I felt about greek life. I was really hyped about it and got excited when I was accepted, but now I just can't deal with all the toxicity.
Such a great video about the truth of Vandy greek life. A lot must be done to make the Vanderbilt community more inclusive!
The college I'm going to doesn't have Greek life at all but I'm glad to know I'm not missing out on anything that I would've wanted to participate in.
I'm coming into Vandy as a freshie next month, and you've reinforced my initial reluctance to join greek life, so um good job
Lol well I’m glad the information was helpful in some way!😄😂
Couldn’t have agreed with what you said more! Thanks for making this video to expose the reality of Greek life.
Thank you! Looking at schools for my daughter who is VERY much of an individual . Great incite. You are wise beyond your years, hope you do well.
Good job Jackie. Anchordown!! Class of 09
Anchor down!!😁
AMEN! Dont know you but proud of you!
So proud of you - this is so important and you have been very fair - thanks for holding on to your wonderful individual self and your sharp critical thinking.
Thank you, that means a lot❤️
I applaud your honesty. Given what is going on in the world today, there should be more skepticism about Greek life. There is absolutely NO diversity on most campuses and wealth and connections seem to be the name of the game. ❤️ a fellow Libra
Thank you, fellow Libra! Agreed!❤️
the tea has spilt. overflowing.
By using your social media to bring awareness to this issue you are acknowledging that there is a problem hopefully this brings about a change.
Thanks for talking about this, not many people do.
I love this so much
The concept of sororities is so strange like it literally wouldn’t work in the UK cos people here would never buy into it. You’re defo better off without it🖤
I'm from the UK too and the whole rushing system and strict rules/ judgement just seems so bizarre. Genuinely baffles me
It's messed up!
I never saw the appeal to what is called Greek life. The whole concept stupid and of course young adults don't think it lables you a certain way but it does
@@VHale-yz7hc lol i think you’re misinterpreting my comment. Regardless of elitism & racism, 99% of people from the UK would find the concept of sororities & rushing absolutely absurd. It’s a cultural difference to a certain extent. And for the record, i think there’s sufficient evidence that racism is more widespread & severe in the US (although of course it definitely exists in the UK too)
@@georgiad8132 I'm from the USA. Most people don't join sororities. Most Americans can't afford to go off to college, and definitely not nice colleges with sororities. Not the norm
Love the vid
I thought long and hard about rushing because I too go to a school in the SEC and I have so many friends and family that were in sororities and it feels like most people are apart of it around here. My cousin educated me on rush and it completely changed my mind. I just didn’t want people to like me based on my social media, or my personal life. Sure, the houses are pretty and they do look like they have fun, but for that price....
That totally makes sense. It can be a tough decision but I’m so glad that you went with your gut!❤️
Interesting video. Thanks for your view.
Thank you for using your platform to raise awareness about these issues. My biggest issue about sororities is lack of diversity. Take Alabama for instant. All girls who rush at Alabama are white, rich, petite and blonde. The sorority Gracie O Connor is in. Zero diversity
Lauren Norris is a youtuber in that sorority as well. Lauren's a sweet girl. Def a white/blonde sorority though. Most of Alabama sororities are like that. Alabama is known for it's backwoods racist views
thank you for sharing!
Glad you talked about this... it is very important thxx
something about sororities have always made me u comfortable, my friend said she was rushing and one of the sororities literally made girls sit on a washing machine and if anything was jiggling they said they had a week to get rid of it! As in body fat or something!!!! I could not believe what i was hearing, literally insane, i know not everywhere is like that but I’ve just heard so many horror stories - frats are also so exclusive, some frats at my sisters school won’t let you come to a party unless you’re in a sorority
Sitting on a washmachine, if you sit right and the machine is running you get orgasm. Get rid of it in a week, means getting rid of virgiity. Fraternities and sororities are exclusive clubs. You need money look attitude and the right color.
Thank you for making this video. You are spot on. I don’t even understand why Greek life exists.
At every school each chapter has a specific reputation including mine and even if that reputation is good it does start to take a toll on you but that’s apart of Greek life in general not to mention how mean other chapters can be towards each other when recruitment starts
I never considered Greek life because it’s not really a thing in Canada, like it exists, but it’s not a big deal, and you rarely hear about it
My brother went to Vandy and he said that sorority recruitment is rly focused on wealth (more so than other factors) but i didn't know he meant it to THIS extent lmfao, and I go to USC and I'm shocked
I'm a Nigerian and I am just starting to understand this SORORITY thing. We do not have it here at least not as big and organized like that. I understand the extra layer of exclusivity in an already exclusive group. IT SUCKS. Like when I was in Secondary school everyone seemed to know stuff that I would later come to find out about like weeks/months later. I guess it was kinda cause I made minding my own business a top priority. I'm not even an Introvert.
Yess all I could think of was Elle woods 😍💯
I just really hope you didn’t get slandered by them on social or personally just coz you dropped out and talked against it.. well done btw
agreed about greek life on campus. its not everyone but it does kinda put an 'elitism' feel on campus. as a person that did not go through any of that, there are still plenty of ways to be part of the social life on campus and have fun and be successful as an independent.
I Stan! 😌
i dropped my sorority second semester freshman year! i had a very similar experience. was put on academic probation after first semester and wasn’t allowed to go to events except meetings but still had to pay for date parties and other events even though i wasn’t allowed to go. greek life sucks everywhere. it wasn’t even a big deal really at my school and it’s still just as bad and shallow
But there is a difference between Greek life at a big school vs Greek life at a small school
this changed my mind on EDing vandy
uk girl here. i did actually do my undergrad in tennessee - but at tennessee tech, and they had sororities, but not sorority houses, only frat houses. I never really under stood it all coming from the UK - so what happens if you don't pay the fines?
My same story from the 80’s. No individuality, pressure to conform, fines... I got out too- after initiation. I applaud you. Some students genuinely don’t understand what they’re getting into, so this is so important to have this information out there. It is one of the most exclusive, racist, elitist, judgmental environments out there and it just gets looked over in the name of philanthropy. It’s insidious and hypocritical...you can’t believe in BLM (for example) and be a part of this toxic experience at the same time. It is a deep rooted culture of judgement like no other and it needs to go away. And for anybody wondering if it’s just at Vandy that they need to know “what does your father do for a living?”, or judge you on your clothing, jewelry, or vacation choices or lack there of ... it’s not, unfortunately. College can be a wonderful experience. Greek life will NOT make or break it as some will tell you.
Funny how we go to college to further our independence, and end up basically forfeiting our independenc/individuality through participation in the Greek system. :( Best of luck, Jackie! You’re adorable!
What was your social life like outside of the offering you would have had in Greek Life?
When I was in high school down south 25 years ago (class of '97) all the popular kids would talk about greek life in college non stop. The guys all looked forward to the drinking and sorority babes (dude like the hottest most perfect super model babes are just right there for the &*&^ing! ), and the girls all wanted to be those babes. It was all about cliquey popularity and wealth and fashion and social status above all else. I'm originally from New England so it was whole new culture for me. One girl in my art class had not even picked out a major and didn't seem to care. All that mattered was the sorority life to her. She had it all planned out, what chapter, what room, how it would be decorated, what dresses she would wear, what guys she would meet at what parties.. etc. The frat guys, the parties, the fashion, the exclusivity, the popularity and how her wealthy parents were going to fund everything. It was if her parents were more interested in her having a "cool" college experience instead of getting an education because that's what they did. Can't you do both? All these years later as I reconnect with classmates on Facebook (what we 40 somethings use.. we're so lame! haha..) I am finding out the girls like that just became boring housewives The guys all got plain blue collar jobs. Not that's there's anything wrong with that, but the cool quirky driven kids I knew back then now all have great careers, fun hobbies, world travel, diverse friends... A trip to england to visit historic pubs for micro brewing research, for example. One girl was teased mercilessly for working on the school's cable access channel. She went on to work for CMT (country music television) and had a cool as hell career. Find what you love and just do it well. Put all your love into that and accumulate your own tribe of supporters and friends. Those are the people you want to be with.
I've never felt so understood