Robert Goodale: The Walsoken Murderer
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ต.ค. 2021
- A little known crime from the Norfolk Cambridgeshire border for you this week, forever remembered by the shocking fate suffered by the killer himself.
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Another fascinating series of events.
I note an element that is still an issue for courts today.
When Goodale confessed, sort of, but claimed the "extreme provocation" element which men who murder women still use, and it, very often, still works for them.
Sadly many of the laws around violence have been essentially designed around the way that MEN commit crimes, so when women, who commit far fewer crimes, come to court, they are faced with rules and concepts that were formed for quite different people.
Women aren't nearly so able to quickly kill a man, so when a woman kills a man who has been abusing her for long years, and often keeps her living with him by threats to her children, she cannot kill him in a manner that has that "I was suddenly overcome by rage" look to it. Therefore women who kill their long term abusive husbands typically get sentences of 40 years, whereas men who kill their wives "in a moment of passion" but after years of abuse, on average, get 2 years.
Gotta go to work! Will watch this later. Hello from New Zealand! 😊
Gotta round-up those sheep, Wal?
I'm not always blood thirsty. But I'm always ready for "A Little Bit of History"!!!
Yes! I'd be prepared to wear a tee shirt with that on it! 😂
Another brilliant upload, you never disappoint xxx
I am so glad I found your channel. It is so nice to hear a British accent as a British in America.
Ummmmm it’s YT, there’s TONS of British on here…..weird thing to say really…..like it’s super hard or even hard to find one on here? 🤷🏼♀️🙄🤣
Now I could see you stating this about meeting someone LOCAL to you, who was British…..but….it’s TH-cam…..so…..🫣🫠
Always well appreciated and thank you for another great insight into days past.
I live near wisbech & the Goodale family are very well known fruit farmers in walsoken.. I wonder if they know about this gruesome tale! I have certainly never heard of it. I'm now subscribing to this channel as I really enjoyed this episode.
Thank you very much Emma, I had no idea the family was not only still around but still in the same business that's amazing.
You're very welcome.
LoL! Not blood thirsty, just love how you tell stories!
What an interesting story….all the illustrations added a lot to the story… thank you….
Yes! Another great video x
His death was quick, his wife's wasn't. i dont have sympathy for a murderer.
Was never intending anyone to do so.
Really enjoyed some of these images presented. Thank you for carefully sourcing them. I no longer cite my sources because I was just handing all my work over to content scalpers. Now they have to WORK for it instead of just scooping all my work up.
I can fully understand that, but am often asked where I get things from so just easier to keep the close to hand.
@@alittlebitofhistory I've had the idea of setting up either a public google drive with sources, or a zotero one and emailing it to those who're genuine.
Like you yourself, I know you've a genuine interest in subject and would use the sources to create your OWN work.
Scalpers don't engage with your channel, they just sub and then use your content. It's disheartening sometimes.
Thank you!
I really enjoy these 'little bits of history'!!!
One does enjoy you tales of tragedy, and even those not so tragic. 👍
Just an interesting fact: James Kenneth Stephen was the cousin of Virginia Woolf. Resemblance visible in your photo of him.
YES I knew he reminded me of someone but I couldn't think who,but now you said Virginia Woolf ,I can definitely see it
Love your storylines ..Great channel Hello from Australia 🇦🇺
Glad you like them!
Ive driven past walsoken so many times on the way to peterborough, thanks for sharing another good story :)
Excellent video, thank you for posting it.
Always well researched. Grim way to go. Wonder if the Guildhall tunnel is still there.
Hi from Thailand
I'd be shocked if they weren't at least partially there, meant to be loads of tunnels under the city, there is this tour you can take of some of them. I need to try and get around to it.
Who has nobody yet will never be lonely? The ghost of Robert Goodale.
A very interesting Case - thank you! 🖒🖒
Very enjoyable.
I couldn't imagine employing an absolute screw up for something considered so important.
Whoa, extremely good video.🤔 I'm quite partial to (True Crime) an a little bit of history, for good measure.👍
Wisbech born & bred. The picture of the Corn Market, we lived in the tall thin building, no.11 North Street as it is known, 3rd building along from the Octagon church. I also know of the Goodale's, i assume they are distant relations of his.
I know it sounds trite, but great job as usual.
Thank you.
Loved it and boy talk about a bad day at the office in that supposed hanging oops
Was thinking this must be Wisbech tale!
Are you a wisbechian?
This reminds me of an old radio show from the US called Crime Classics. You can find episodes on TH-cam. You offer an entertaining presentation.
Excellent tale. What a terrible calling to have, an executioner. How could a man live with himself knowing what he had done and how many more times he would have to repeat his actions.
I can't get my head (no pun intended) around this.
I would imagine that is the exact reason he turned to religion and trying to get the practice banned in later life.
Albert Pierrepoint's biography is in publication, and includes his rationale. The Babbacombe Lee foul-up in particular led to his establishment of a table of drops.
Really enjoy your channel.
Thank you very much
Seems that every second man and his dog was a ripper suspect at one point .
I'd rather have my head ripped off than dangle and choke
I am not always bloodthirsty, but when I am, I enjoy a bloodthirsty tale.
When I listen to stories about justice carried out in earlier times, I am often surprised by the diligence and to the length it would go - probably because I expect the opposite to be the standard. In the present story I find it somewhat touching that Mr. Dent takes the trouble to go all the way to London and to bother the Home Secretary to revoke the death sentence - on behalf of a very thin and clearly fabricated excuse by Robert.
Great story, and presentation.
Bloodthirsty? Me? Nooo, never.
Gee, I never thought of myself as bloodthirsty.
Robert sadly wasn't the only man to go out this way - it happened several times in the American West, notably to a fellow named 'Black Jack' Ketchum.
A bit careless. For most of the video you referred to Berry as "John Berry" -- despite the fact that you showed his calling-card twice, plus the frontispiece of his book, in all of which his name was printed as James Berry.
Eh I don't believe that "she fell in love with another man" story. Robert had been physically abusing her for years. I don't believe he tried to save her either. If he really wanted to save her he would have gone for help.
I agree, and was wondering if he had held her under or used his legs/feet to push her head under the water, whether to ensure she drowned or to try to conceal her body.
Hangman is not exactly a job that would lend itself to getting much nonlethal practice. I wonder what leads someone to enter that profession.
Steady Work I guess, not sure it might of paid pretty well, As I guess there were some who saw it as a public service ridding the world of evil people.
Robert Goodale is my 3rd Great Grandad; my grandad John Goodale was known as the best strawberry farmer! :)
Interesting to see Ned Kelly being led to the gallows . But that occurred 2 years before this beheading .
Best picture I could find of something like that happening, did wonder of anyone would notice who it was.
Goodale as in good beer? Good name for a Pub.
So, Berry was fired from being an executioner and THEN grew a conscience about killing people. In my opinion, this sounds like a classic example of Sour Grapes. If He wasn't the one pulling the lever then no one should. 🤔 !:-)
Bathsheba Goodale, WHAT a name!!!
The Death Penalty was finally abolished in 1969 Mainly due to the Derek Bentley case and I hope to God that it will never come back to this County as one killing does not justify another and I have every Sympathy for Victims of Crime and the only time I did Support the Death Penalty was for the war Crimes in World War two as there Crimes were so bad that the Death Penalty was the only Sentence the Perbatrators could have Reseved and then thirty years later in 1999 it was abolished for Treason and Piracy
Unfortunately, Robert Goodale was my Great Granduncle.
That probably wasn’t the truth, he probably knew full well that the changed lie would get him a chance at a reprieve of execution and could possibly get the sentence overturned. I would reckon that sympathetic male members of the prison staff likely informed him of this. One of the many reasons why some domestic violence cases never get to trial or sentencing is because the accused interacts with a law enforcement officer who is themselves an abuser that tells them what to say or do to avoid arrest.
Also being told your spouse is leaving you isn’t exactly an extreme circumstance that makes murder justifiable, lol. Maybe catching them in the act firsthand could be used as that excuse, but not just being told it’s over.
I 100% agree.
Blood!😈😈😈
Decapitated from a miss calculation bcoz robert goodale didn't lose enuff weight should have resisted that Last meal
Oh dear, he killed his wife but , what a way to go! It would be quick wouldn’t it? Would he have known or was it just too quick. ( anyone with a bit of medical knowledge love crime stories as well). Sorry for sounding morbid but it just sounds ghastly! Thank you once again 🙏🙏🙏🙏👵👵👵👵🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
If you're going to suffer a botched hanging i bet youd rather be decapitated than strangled. It took H.H. Holmes 20 minutes to die when he was hanged. We always did prefer a short deop in America. If a crowd is going to assemble for a show they deserve a dance at least.
My experiences as a Botcher.
You are making a video you know will be appreciated by the bloodthirsty ones amongst your viewers ?
I believe this event is the origin of the saying "money for old rope".
Bit of a Saddam Hussein moment there. Have to be careful with the big ones, they don't mix well with a noose.
Thank you. Thirst sated. For now 😈.
I’m sure this is an interesting and well researched story. But because of the narrator’s choppy, staccato speaking style, I can’t listen for more than a few minutes.
I do apologize for that but thank you for giving the video a chance.
@@alittlebitofhistory Pfft your speaking style is fine :)
“I couldn’t handle my own emotions so I lashed out and killed my wife”…. such a cowardly defense.