Absolutely why would you in the first place. There is plenty of options of hybrids for people that are concerned about the emissions. And for real enthusiasts the EV market is going to be a substandard car market dominated by cheap options from china, don't fix it just trash it.
@@777Outrigger I rode one on Uber and is really noises everywhere man, sounds like those cheap taxis you get in India or southamerica, took me by surprise, for real LOL.
@@russellhorsefield9199 Is that the reason why you got an EV? For a damn tax right off? Haaa, ha,ha,haaaa...lol!!!🤣.... sorry but the United States government can't bribe me. I can see if he simply brought it for you. ...lol! I guess everyone has a reason why they buy their cars....
I figure the price on them will drop like flat screen TVs did. Biden already had to slap massive tariffs on Chinese EVs because they were about to flood the market with what a lot of people, including Warren Buffet, says is a good car. BYD
7 reasons, 1st money too expensive to own, 2nd got too complicated, 3rd batteries, 4th interest rates, 5th car insurance, 6th range anxiety, 7th not reliable as thought.
Plus where are you going to take it in for a repair other than the dealers? I found the dealers to be more expensive and some are just out and out ripoff.
Many charging stations are broken at stations. Time wasted waiting for charges. Home charging station average cost for installation is somewhere around $2000.00 from my understanding. Most power plants burn fossil fuels so carbon emission savings is negligible.
A mate of mine has a BMW EV, he's sick of it doing its own thing and taking unwanted control, he said he's going back to an ice vehicle that he can control.
Tell your friend that he has one of the worse EV that ever hit the market. When he could have had the very best Tesla a true American car top world seller.
@@mikeifyouplease I haven't heard about a Yugo in decades! I'm sure there are many still driving even now. But will a Tesla still be driving after two decades?.......I don't think so!
@@MrLeadb1 Yes, you're probably right, but I do remember some of the funny stories about Yugos. One was if you bought a legit car on the market, they would throw in a Yugo as part of the deal. Then there was the crossing of the wires, so that operating the lights, would turn on the wipers, and vice versa. Also, smoke would sometimes fill the cabin, for no reason...except you made the mistake of turning the engine on. And finally, how some of the gear sticks were glued to the car, rather than welded.
The EV vehicle's was a bad idea from the corrupt politicians. They try to force the population to buy their bad idea and most of us never fell for it. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Not yet, but you will, because you will not be able to afford an ICE contraption for long and the Hybrids are even worse, but apparently how would you know that? Considering your language that exposes your limited knowledge on the matter discussed.
@@sat7755 They are outlawing the best, cheapest, cleanest fuel-Natural gas so soon my electric bill will go from $100 month for heat to $1000 month. Leftist destructive dreamer utopian policies will destroy the world. And BTW, I would bet your life I am way more knowledgeable and intelligent than you will ever be capable of.
Yes, we will when ICEs are banned, by then, EVs will be much, much cheaper, and other problems will be fixed/replaced. But now EVs are a waste of money. Car dealerships have high prices with a normal mechanic the repairs are 50+% cheaper. Since EVs are new, there aren't many choices, but in 15+ years, it will be a different story. Why pay a lot more money for something.....
@@dchubworldsharenetwork Yes you are correct about EV in dealerships that are by far Inferior to Tesla, but Tesla do not sell through dealerships but factory direct to customers worldwide, in fact they are the consolidated world leaders both in quality , efficiency, safety and extremely low running costs. I have been driving one for 5 years without any problems what so ever and it saves me close to $4.000 a year from the high costs of my wife ICE contraption in comparison.
Every single american could own an EV and it still wouldn't even scratch the surface. Do the research and see all the CO2 and green house gases imited to make the EV you drive. Battery production and lithium mining causes pollution. Cobalt is very toxic to humans yet it is harvested from the ground by women and children with very little to no protective equipment. Yes, like you said, "What a shame."
And how do EV owners feel about charging their cars at public charging stations, in sketchy parts of town, in all sorts of weather conditions, at odd hours... while traditional cars whiz on by?
Like I was always compromising for the sake of owning my EVs and got rid of the last one in favour of a hybrid. No regrets and don't miss my Ioniq 5 EV.
@@ScubaSteveCanada Good move! I have purchased three Priuses of different generations over the years. I have not regretted those decisions. Got some flack in the beginning, but looks like I have had the final laugh. (Though in reality, I would NEVER laugh at anyone for their car purchase.)
@@mikeifyouplease a hybrid is an EV, only it gets its electricity from a gas generator. A diesel Train is also all electric, as it gets its electricity from a diesel generator.
@@dera6347 __My Toyota Prius has an electric motor and a gas engine. Sometimes it run on electricity. Sometimes it runs on gas. Sometimes it runs on both.
I wonder what the best opportunities to invest now are, there are opinions but a little later I find out these opinions don't matter as a totally different turn of events play out with the stocks they discussed therein...
stocks are overrated now. buy gold , 5% in crypto . rest in cash. and wait for the stock/property/land. price to crash . but them after it stops dropping for 7 - 12 months at the bottom.
@@chloeanderson543 I successfully trade in my own portfolio, and also follow others because I'm interested in their strategies. I realized I've got better at managing the trader's strategies too. There's nothing wrong at all with having someone far more dedicated manage some of your portfolio.
I successfully trade in my own portfolio, and also follow others because I'm interested in their strategies. I realized I've got better at managing the trader's strategies too. There's nothing wrong at all with having someone far more dedicated manage some of your portfolio.
At first, I wasn't too pleased with my gains compared to my previous performances, I was doing so poorly, I thought I needed to diversify into better assets, so I got in touch with an investment-advisor. That same year, I pulled a net gain of 550k, which is about 10 times more than I average on.
@@finleysterling562 My portfolio has been in the gutter for the entire year, so I started researching new ways to profit in the market, but everything I tried just seemed to miss the mark. Please let us know the name of your financial advisor
I'll never go back to ICE, I loved my 2018 Tesla Model 3 LD duel motor with FSD and now love my new Model 3 Highland LR dual motor with FSD transferred for free from my 2018 model
We have had our 2023 VW ID.4 for a year and we love it! We have saved $$$s with it, home charging is cheap and convenient. All this negative stuff is ridiculous. I agree, nothing is perfect, but we do not regret purchasing our EV.
Imagine the stress of being stuck in traffic after an accident with your EV battery on less than 10% and your charge point over an hour away at current traffic flow. People don't need that kind of extra stress in an already stressful life.
Imagine being dumb enough to say something that stupid. Infrastructure is a problem but if you turn off heat and A/C you likely will make it fine. It certainly won't be comfortable but if you planned your trip that poorly then yeah you shouldn't be an EV adopter at this stage. Dumb EV adopters have really created a lot of FUD. Instead be happy you have an EV that is not wasting power idling and polluting the local air. However a great option is to have an EV for a daily driver and rent an ICE vehicle for road trips and other rare use cases where EVs cause issues. I think that makes a lot of sense for a lot of people.
Your EV isn't using electricity when 'stuck in traffic'; it's NOT idling like an ICE vehicle. (A/C will use a little but you can roll down the windows and turn off the A/C).
That’s correct engines keep running even while idle. Not the same with EVs. But like anything in life driving around on E and getting stuck in traffic is no fun either…AAA will is a great idea for those people.
This is an accurate assessment of why, after owning a 2020 Kona EV and a 2022 Ioniq 5 EV that I now have a 2024 Tucson hybrid. The Ioniq 5 was one of the best vehicles I ever owned but why should I have to compromise for the sake of owning an EV? Maintenance was higher than expected. Software updates were few and far between. 350KW chargers were few and far between in Ontario. Charger reliablilty needs work. Wait at least 5 - 10 years for the charging infrastructure to be ubiquitous, as it is for gas and diesel stations, before even thinking of buying an EV. BTW, you can't charge from home during a road trip so get rid of that excuse for cost savings.
"US EV sales increased 47% in 2023 versus 2022, increased 142% versus 2021, increased 356% versus 2020, and increased 385% versus 2019" - (CleanTechnica). That's why the Oil and ICE industry starts hating EV's. They know, their business is dead.
AWHILE AGO OUR GOV(UK)TOLD US TO BUY A DIESEL VEHICLE ,NOW THEY DONE A U TURN AND SAID THEY ARE GOING TO BAN DIESEL VEHICLES.WHO THE HELL ARE THEY TO TELL US WHAT TO DO AND HOW TO LIVE THE WHOLE CLEAN AND GREEN AND CLEAN AIR ZONES AND NET ZERO IS A TOTAL BLOODY SCAM ,, NO C02 = NO LIFE, THESE SO CALLED EDUCATED PEOPLE ,ARE TOTALLY INSANE.PERIOD.
When oil companies tell you that new technologies that are going to decimate their profits are dead-ends, ignore them and seek to understand where the world is going.
Can anyone carry extra electricity or charge the EV on the road when they run out of battery power like I can carry extra gas or even call road assistance to bring gas .
Most problems are with US manufacturers,Ford , and Gm . Their approach is identical to ice , push the product through the door and fix the problem later. My Tesla has 190000 km with no problems ,still on the original brakes . Any software issue’s are rectified on line.
Are EV owners really shifting back? - pardon the pun-they really never left gas vechicle reliance. Over 90% of households with EVs rely on gas combustion cars. I laugh at people who drive an EV vehicle. Not the wisest of consumers.
The depreciation seems to be greater than reported here. In fact, many dealers simply will give NOTHING for a used EV trade-in. They find selling a used EV nearly impossible, so they are refusing to take them at all as trade-ins. A private sale is going to be based on what someone is willing to pay for the thing, which is usually far less than the owner thinks that 3 ton hunk of despair is worth. It comes down to taking what someone offers, or keeping that sad thing in perpetuity. OH, and lest we forget, there is more to the insurance issue than just insuring that disaster of a car. While some companies are simply charging more to insure EV's due to outrageous repair costs, some don't insure them at all. BUT THERE IS MORE...Due to the many fires with those sad excuse for a car, homeowner policies can be more expensive - or cancelled altogether - with the overweight fire hazards on the property and, especially, kept in a garage.
1. Value: While your old EV is worth less so is the new one. So if you sell your old one for less you can turn around and buy the new one for less as well, in the end it´s about net zero. The bigger issue is, there are too many EV´s on the marked altogether since due to tax santivation they simply made too many. 2. Insurance is more expensive. Show me which company does not insure them at all, do you have any source to your claim ? 3. Statistically speaking EV´s don´t burn more often than a gas car, gas is being highly flammable. Do you have a source ?
@@sierraecho884 Restrictions on where you can park or charge a BEV are coming. Also physical controls for accessories like AC are coming back. Tesla fired 10% of it's workforce world wide and will Not make a $25k BEV.
@@robertkubrick3738 This is an different topic entirely. Restriction towards ICE´s are coming too...how does that help compare the two ? Whats your point ?
@@robertkubrick3738 As I have said. Regulations come to regulate mostly ICE´s not BEV´s. You milage may differ depending where you. In retarded Americastan oder EUDSSR.
You don't know your facts. Many people go for used EVs because they are the only ones they can afford. Former 2020 Kona EV and 2022 Ioniq 5 EV owner who now has and drives a 2024 Tucson hybrid.
@@ScubaSteveCanada Well Hybrids are a different story. what it means is the car has 2 engines gasoline/petrol and a large CCA 12 volt battery motor. Normally Battery motor while idling or up to 20kmh and gasoline for the rest .Toyota Prius was the first car to have this.
This is so wrong on so many measures. I’m driving a 2012 Nissan leaf. It’s company car that I use everyday. We know every expense. The range is down to 100 kms per charge, but I rarely need more than that. It’s never been back to the dealer for anything. Cost per year for 2 set of tires, 2 small 12 volt batteries and 3 wiper blades works out to $40 per year. The brake pads are over 90% remaining. Clearly all seven of your complaints about EV’s don’t apply to everyone. Maybe you are trying to use the extreme to prove your case.
There are lots of things I don't understand but this one gets me, any gas station I drive to in North America I can put the gas nozzle in my car but the government didn't tell all these EV manufacturers to do the same thing, same plug in for every EV??? NOPE! sure didn't, and you forgot one the rebates our tax dollars that were being given away is no longer happening
Because we don't have the electricity for EV cars. In California we have rolling blackouts because no electricity. It was like that even before EV cars. How can EV cars be charged when we don't have the electricity.
yepp. But I am sure it will, that´s what EVERYBODY else thinks that´s why they tank so much, why should I buy them now if I can get a better deal later
The through life cost of an EV is now less than that of an equivalent ICE car. My EV insurance is no more tthan that for an equivalent ICE. The insurance companies know something that you do not.
@@rogerphelps9939 Depends on many factors like the vehicle model etc. Don´t be full of BS. EV´s can make financial sense, but for most people they don´t not only due to cost which is is most (not all) cases higher considering purchase price, maintanance etc. but also simply due to charging being non available. Charging at home comes again with a upfront cost for the charging infrastructure which is not for free.
@@randallkohn6089 Not only that, you have to see it as a whole. Say you got PV panels and can charge the thing at home in this case they do make sense even despite the higher price (not always). They basically never make sense if you charge them somewhere else for a lot of money or if you drive them a lot. I rather get a hybrid they are way cheaper to buy but also to run and if the battery is dead in 10 years you can still replace it for 2k. A 100% electric battery costs 20k to replace, this does not make sense. They have to come down in price AND more chargers are needed. Both can be circumvented already by using a hybrid.
Brakes and tires are no problem, they are even better than ICE´s but they have all sorts of other issues. depreciation is also a double edged sword, while they fall in price it also means they are cheaper to buy. Hypothetically you can sell your old for less but then right aways buy a new one for less, your loss will be net zero.
@@hermanpeters549 This isn´t true either. Many EV´s have a lot of power and are expensive to repair it can be more expensive for some models, just like with any car it depends.
Bought a Tesla. Will never go back to ICE. Charge it for free over half of the year thanks to solar panels. After 19 months with my Tesla. Zero cost. Zero service. Software is stellar vcompared to other brands. 23 updates in those 19 months. New functions I did not have before. App is working great. THAT is not what other brand owners will say. And FUN to drive like hell. Model 3 AWD.
To conquer the market, electric cars (EVs) only have to be technically superior to the Internal Combustion Engine cars (ICE). It’s clearly the case. 1. EVs are simpler to make: Tesla, for instance, has reduced the number of pieces for the front part of the vehicle from 70 pieces to only one. (It’s the same thing for the rear part of its vehicles.) 2. Tesla, BYD and Volvo demonstrated that it was possible to produce profitable EVs; something legacy producers like GM or Toyota are unable to do. It’s because they feared bankruptcy that many companies stopped producing EVs. 3. The price of EVs is falling rapidly due to the rapidly falling price of their batteries (- 30% in 2023). 4. No cobalt or nickel are used to produce the most modern EVs. 5. EVs pollute much less than ICE cars, especially when they move. 6. EVs are more stable on roads because their heavy batteries are located at the bottom of the car. 7. EVS protect better their occupants when there is a collision due to the rigidity of their battery packs. 8. There are fewer than ten (10) moving parts in an EV engine compared to more than a thousand in an ICE car. That reduction in the number of pieces means that less machinery are used to produce them. As a result, producing electric cars creates less pollution. 9. EVs accelerate more rapidly than ICE cars when their drivers try to overtake other cars. 10. The brakes on an EV last much longer due to their regenerative braking system. 11. The dashboard of an EV is much simpler to produce since almost all the controls are on the on-board computer. 12. There are fewer liquids in an EV (windshield cleaning fluid, battery fluid). 13. EVs are roomier than ICE cars because their engines are much smaller. 14. Most technical problems on an EV can be solved ¨over the air¨ without having to go to a dealer. 15. EVs don’t need to go to the dealer for regular maintenance. 16. Everybody can buy an EV on the Internet without having to go to a dealer. 17. Recharging an EV is 80% cheaper than filling the tank of an ICE car. 18. Nowadays, there are multiple ways to produce electricity. (N.B. In 2023, solar panels are the cheapest way to produce electricity). 19. Nowadays, charging stations are everywhere while the number of gas stations is decreasing. 20. Contrary to ICE cars, EVs can be recharged at home. 21. EV owners say they have no problem with the autonomy of their vehicle. 22. If EVs explode from time to time, 200,000 ICE cars explode every year in USA. 23. Finally, we need to replace ICE cars with EVs for two other reasons. First, because petroleum is becoming scarcer on the planet and, second, because we all need to stop depending on an explosive region like the Middle East for our main source of energy. 24. Etc.
Musk just said Tesla sales in 2024 will increase from 2023. ..... And here's an interesting fact. According to a Bloomberg Survey, 84% of Tesla owners said they would buy a Tesla again, and overwhelmingly, Tesla owners are on their first Tesla. In 2023, 90% of Tesla's buyers were first time Tesla buyers because most Tesla owners have not yet reached the time to replace their first Tesla. The replacement cycle for Tesla hasn't even started yet.
Even a slight accident in an EV that is suspected to have caused any slight damage to the battery will be written off by insurance because battery replacement costs are so high and they cannot allow a suspect damaged battery back out on the road... written-off EV are piling up in scrapyards due to high repair costs...
Only in the US dear and even then thats a minority occurrence drummed into truth by Big Pil who are spending billions to ensure you idiots believe all the crap in existence. I live in a country where EVs are already 50% of the market, infrastructure for them is literally nation wide and they are beautiful, modern, sleek and just superior in every way to their obsolete petrol based equivalents.
problem is... all these people bashing Ev's have never owned or even driven an EV. They watch videos like this and take them as truth. I have a Mach E and have had absolutely zero issues with it. Best vehicle choice I have ever made.
Although EVs have their faults, I have been very happy with one I have owned for 7 years now. I don’t recommend someone buy an EV as their only vehicle. They definitely have challenges for long distance road trips and you absolutely need a home charging station in preferably a covered garage. They are slower to charge than a quick fill-up at a gas station. The charging infrastructure is not mature enough to provide a glitch free charging experience while taking long road trips. However, I love my EV for commuting to work and for local trips within a 60 mile radius of my home, even in poor weather conditions. I never worry about my range in that radius even when it is 20 below zero. I have no intentions of ditching my EV. It has saved me money so far and I have had literally no repairs so far. I am sure others have had different experiences and they may not be as tolerant of the limitations EVs place on you for long distance trips. I just use one of my gasoline cars for trips that require rapid refills. You can’t accuse me of being a crazy tree hugging liberal either. I am a solid political conservative. I love the technology and I truly believe EVs have a future and I don’t mind being an early adopter. No one should be forced to buy an EV.
Sorry, but survey after survey after survey shows the majority of EV owners intend to buy another EV. Ours is almost six years old. It has been exceptional, and we will never buy another internal-combustion car.
Honestly as they become less and less expensive "due to depreciation", they are becoming more and more of a valid option. That said, one of my cars is a Plug in Hybrid Electric which lets me drive 80% of my miles on EV to work and only use the ICE engine for longer trips or if I want to accelerate faster. With 500 miles of range plus the ability to gas up when needed, the Rav4 Prime has been the best daily driver car I've ever owned.
I'm not going back to ICE. My and kids are getting EV's. Can't fill up a tank of gas for $2. Never. Can fillup a gas tank at a public station for $13. Never.
problem is... all these people bashing Ev's have never owned or even driven an EV. They watch videos like this and take them as truth. I have a Mach E and have had absolutely zero issues with it. Best vehicle choice I have ever made.
A very informative video, thanks. Almost went for a full EV in 2022. Felt the infrastructure just wasn't there yet to support my driving habits. So I went for a PHEV. I still have images in memory of seeing dozens of abandoned Tesla's in the news around dead charging stations in the Chicago area this past winter, when temps fell below Zero for a few days. Owners not realizing you could loose upwards to 40% of your range in conditions like that. And cold also affects charging stations. Either slowing charging to a many hours long crawl, or completely shutting down the charging station.
@Do EVs have less trouble with cold than ICVs, loose [sic] a similar range because of weather conditions. “Do EVs Have a Cold Weather Problem? Ask a Norwegian.” This Is Not Cool, January 18, 2024
8:36 that is still in proportion to the increased weight (mass) being towed so what's the problem? More weight = more effort needed = less range, same for any vehicle
Our Tesla model 3 definitely more reliable than a ICE car (GM as always some issues), charging is super easy, we usually do it from home when necessary from the supercharger it takes max 25min from 10% to 80% the time to watch a TH-cam video. High repair cost after an accident (minor and major) is a fact. Insurance cost is similar to ICE cost, we haven’t seen any increase from an Audi A4 to the Tesla. Range anxiety didn’t apply to us we usually never go further than 3hr travel. We did LA - SF once and it was easy, the Tesla software direct us to the right stop and time of recharge. Last and you are right, the TESLA depreciation is a huge issue because of Elon poor decision, sacrificing early owners (new Tesla cost decrease by $8-9000 for better short term sales. Friendly advice just LEASE an electric car to keep up with the technology improvements. Something who isn’t reported in the video is the silence in the cabin so by extension the travel confort, the sporty driving experience, hands aren’t smelling gazoline anymore, starting my day with a tank full of electricity every morning! Next step leasing a second Tesla 😊
Not really buying the last reason as a Porsche is not an everyday standard motor car compared to a run of the mill Ford , GM or Toyota but the rest of the video is very spot on . I for one will not be buying an EV in my lifetime as I am classed as a Gen X or Late Boomer.
I wished they would just make EV's uninsurable for the sake of saving their own skin from bankruptcy. At this stage there are too many risks with EV's .
@@melvinplant8637 at what stupid price is on offer. Personally insurance companies really need to get some balls and make these EV's uninsurable before they become bankrupt themselves.
@@russellhorsefield9199 Insurance companies have become less profitable primarily due to the dramatic increase in weather-related disasters in recent years. The ICE to electric vehicle conversion is designed to help the insurance companies deal with their biggest problem - climate change.
Yep, and ever thought of parking structures? I am sure, when designed, the architects calculated with a certain weight of vehicles. Now, if that same structure has all of a sudden cars in there that all way 50% more, not sure what would happen!
@@tomheim9516 Not everyone is driving a Range Rover, but all EV's are much heavier than the typical car in their size class. Maybe think before you give a smartass response.
anyone buying/driving electric vehicles is just a sucker with money , how does that old saying go " a fool and his money are soon parted" or " there is a sucker born every minute" , its hard to believe grown people can be so easily deceived :-(
@@DrStrange1966 problem is... all these people bashing Ev's have never owned or even driven an EV. They watch videos like this and take them as truth. I have a Mach E and have had absolutely zero issues with it. Best vehicle choice I have ever made.
Depletions happen to all vehicles. I seen gas engine die in a month. There are lawyers that do nothing but gas car warranty/lemon law. Get your facts right.
superchargers charge around $.50 per KWH. That makes a full recharge cost almost as much as gasoline in an ICE. But, the govt is restricting gasoline so its costs are going up too.
Lol!! I have a Jaguar XJL. I fuel up once a month at 3 to 5 minutes and not 20 to 30 minutes. Range 570 miles which supersedes any EV. Paid off at 41K and a pleasure to drive. I'll keep my jaguar and leave well enough alone.....
We have a 2017 Chevy Bolt. We have enjoyed driving it daily. We have a charger in our garage. I used to drive a combined 70 miles a day. I paid approximately $40.00 a month to charge my car. Chevrolet replaced the LG battery at no cost to me. I actually gained range from 238 per charge to 250 per charge. The new Chevrolet Silverado truck has an over 450 mile range. The battery technology is getting better and better. Tesla has granted Rivian, Ford, and GM access to their excellent widespread charging network. We have never had range anxiety. The car always has way more range than we use on a daily basis. Oh, and how could I ever forget the REGEN feature that puts added range back into the battery as you coast to a stop or cruise down a hill. This feature also saves the wear and tear on the brakes. Over-all, EVs have far fewer parts to wear out and no transmissions to break. Engines and transmissions are two of the biggest fail points on each and every ICE vehicle. After the Model T came out there were many doubting Thomases running around still hoping for the horse and buggy. Well, they all died out, but the Model T lived on. 8:36
Major flaws in this report. 1.) 50% returning to ICE is untrue. 2.) Reliability is skewed because what’s baked into the statistics is EV customers going to traditional dealerships with repair shops that are already invested in the built in obsolescence (internal combustion engine vehicles )and it’s in the best interest of the dealerships who’ve been gouging from everyone to charge more for EV repairs. 3.) most EV chargers are funded by companies indirectly who lose money on the sales of EVs thusly it’s in the best interest to make EV infrastructure UNRELIABLE. 4.) EV fires are an extreme exaggeration (EV fire per 100k 65)&(ICE fires per 100k is 3,500) 5.) insurance companies are in league with big oil, and justify profit by looking at the repair costs from shops that gouge EV owners. 6.) Legacy automakers lose money on EV vehicles so they also don’t want EVs. The dealership model makes its money on repairs and EVs are considerably more reliable and virtually maintenance free. Minus tires, bodywork or battery abuse.
Wow, you're hitting the copium hard! 😂 Listen, it was kind of you to go out and take one for the team..but we all know EV's are a downgrade compared to an ICE car unless you're a town dweller who hardly goes anywhere and has their car charging whilst they sleep. I know of people who have gone back to ICE cars after making an EV mistake..they really are like having a mobile phone on wheels..and who wants a second hand mobile phone?
@@markseehawer3762 I have never owned an EV. But it will be my next vehicle purchase. So I have no purchase to defend in saying this post is spot-on. If you have objections to any of the points listed, why not state some facts to support them?
This is information from a TH-cam channel that has the word piston in it showing this information is biased… Not all EV are bad there is not one positive thing said in this post about them do not use this biased information from a page that is clearly trying to scare people to stick with engines… they picked one scenario with a company that doesn’t even make good EV’s lol… cmon a Chevy? What about RIVIAN… LUCID… VW I.D.. I can do the same thing with brand new vehicles purchased that need new engines… Take this information with a grain of sand… it is biased
How's this for a reason? Private vehicles and vans are responsable for 10% of global co2 emissions, so if everybody in the world (impossible) were to switch, we still would not be making a great difference.
Sort of opposite in Canadian winters, I seen EV drivers with full winter gear on while driving due to heating and range loss. ICE cars produce excess heat.
@@sierraecho884 Actually heat produced by an ICE ISN'T Waste heat, it's needed to keep the engine at efficient operating temperature. BEV Battery warming is the same thing, except you don't get battery warming as a side effect IT COSTS YOU, money and range.
For most people EVs are a cost effective, pleasant daily driver that will save them money. Some of the issues in this video are indeed true but some of it is ridiculous FUD
Owning an EV is like purchasing 5,000 iPhone batteries or 1,000 laptop batteries. Then, within a few years, you will have to replace those batteries. In a scenario where 1 million people bought EVs, it's like using 5 billion iPhone batteries or 1 billion laptop batteries. Considering there are around 8 billion people on this planet, if 1 billion people purchased an EV, it would be like wasting 5 trillion iPhone batteries or 1 trillion laptop batteries in a span of 5 to 10 years. Is wasting 5 trillion iphone or 1 trillion laptop batteries that only last around 10yrs or less is still an environmental friendly? No one wants to buy a second-hand EV with an old battery. Battery replacement is also very expensive. Basically your EV is disposable.
lol 14 cents in the US is already a 10% increase, while I am paying 45cent here in Europe. Charging costs 70-90cents here. Forget it, the more EV´s there are the higher the price for charging.
@@solidustable 40 cents is also quiet expensive but the nordic states like Schweden Finland etc. have a different kind of thing going on. Summa summarum BEV make financial sense at the time right now only if you charge at home. Right now for the price difference I could drive my Gas car about 100.000km before the price instrease for electric hits the breaking point. I have calculated that believe me I am an automotive engineer myself xD And the funny part is in my current living situaiton I couldn´t charge the thing at all....
One 4-hour wait at a Walmart charging area then 8 hours to charge because multiple cars are charging at once and you will pay any amount to have the car dropped in the middle of the ocean. Only those with a dedicated charging area at home can have any convenience.
That is believable. There's only so much current coming into the station and that current is divided amongst the active chargers. Theoretically, the designers weren't planning on all of the chargers being used at the same time. They should have, but I'm guessing they were trying to save some money.
I bought EV and I love it!. Never going back to an old technology of combustion. Program to charge the car every night and ready to go every day, never worry about charging, it been for more than two years and no problems. and my electricity bill is $150.00 per month, but I have to mention that I have solar panels. I don't worry about oil change so far. The only time I have been to a garage is to do inspection on state inspection. I guest EV is not for everybody, but for me is great!
Your case is the best case for an EV owner. I am happy for you however your situation is probably suited for 50% or so of all people. And don´t forget the battery degrades rather fast in hot climate, when using the super charger and when charging above 80%. It means when doing one of those things you will lose about 25% of capacity in 5 years. EV´s are fine, they are just not for everyone.
Good video on mentioning the seven reasons EV owners are shifting back to ICE vehicles. Out of the seven reasons mentioned, I think the three main reasons that lead the way for the shift back to ICE vehicles are higher insurance premiums, high repair costs and home charging/charging station not being reliable enough especially in cold climate states.
@je EVs are growing exponentially around the world. "The EV Revolution Has Passed A Tipping Point" Cleantechnica, March 28, 2024 "The EV Revolution in Five Charts and Not Too Many Numbers" The exponential growth of electric vehicles marks the end of the ICE age, putting half of oil demand at risk Kingsmill Bond, RMI, September 21, 2023 RMI: EV projections 1. EV Sales are growing exponentially up S-curves 2. Forecasters keep underestimating the speed of EV growth 3. The drivers of change are getting stronger 4. Exponential growth will continue 5. The growth of EVs pushes the ICE fleet and oil demand for cars into terminal decline EV repair & maintenance is cheaper than ICVs. So is fuel. EV TCO is cheaper. EVs pre-condition, ie, when necessary, they heat themselves to the temp needed for charging & operation
Transitioning from traditional internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles to electric vehicles (EVs) involves similar challenges and resistance as the shift from film cameras to digital cameras. Both changes represent significant technological advancements that require adjustments in infrastructure, consumer behavior, and industry practices. Over time, as the benefits of EVs become more evident and infrastructure improves, the transition will likely become smoother, much like how digital cameras eventually became the norm.
Terrible analogy. You didn’t have to take out a mortgage on a camera. Everybody loved not getting film developed. A clear win. EV’s have been out awhile - it ain’t catching on! They wouldn’t exist if idiots in government weren’t pushing/subsidizing it.
Reason#8 The big problem EV’s have is they produce 20% more microplastic pollution because unlike hybrids, they weigh 20% more. This generates 20% more microplastic tire dust. Tire dust is the largest contributor to micro plastics pollution by far. Almost all tire dust ends up in a aquifer, which eventually flows into the ocean. It’s not your plastic water bottle as many would lead you to believe, it’s just tire dust mostly. In fact, the worst thing you can do is throw a plastic water bottle into a recycle bin, because it gets trucked by a diesel vehicle all the way to a recycle center. Almost all of this plastic then gets picked out and trucked again to a landfill. So that water bottle you threw in the recycle bin actually causes 4x more micro plastic pollution than if you just threw it in the trash.
@po Nope. Why are you lying about EVs? And plastic? Is this a job or a sadistic hobby? PM 2.5 is the deadly stuff. Know where it comes from? BURNING FOSSIL FUELS, & BRAKE DUST ONLY FROM ICVs!
fuel is the least of the costs over the life of a vehicle.it has been proven that EV,s are 80% more unreliable, insurance cost higher, any maintenance cost higher and if after 8 years you try to sell both cars the ice car would still be worth around 30 % where the EV will be worth nothing just landfill, my own car which is now 17 years old has 300.000 on the speedo is still going beautifully ,original cost $36000 and still selling for around $4000 .
I've been driving EVs since 2013. I got stuck twice. In the ten years before that, I got stuck twice with ICE cars. The difference is all I needed was a charge, not a new ICE car part. Public chargers suck, except for Tesla ones. I fill up every nite at home. On the road just use a fast charger to get u to destination: not enough to "fill". I never had to pay for a new battery. Never paid anything for maintenance other than tires in 144K miles driving. Electricity cost is near free for me at home and less than 10 cents a mile on road.
This is one of those things, and there are 100 of these things, that politicians can say on TV that sound good... Until 5 minutes later when you think it through. They say they're going to push electric cars. Everyone thinks of electricity, and how it doesn't emit fumes out of the tailpipe... And they say "yay to my favorite politician." Unless of course, you're a guy like me that ran a power plant on a destroyer in his youth. In that case, you know where electricity comes from. You remember the thousands of gallons worth of jet fuel that went through your jet engine generator to produce the electricity for the ship. You realize that most power plants that feed electricity out here in the civilian world run on coal. Then you immediately see what is real: those are coal powered cars. The only way you produce electricity without emitting all of those fumes Is through nuclear fission... Which we've basically nixed because of the objections of the same kind of people who would buy electric cars now. Also, if you served on a warship, you have been trained in firefighting. You know what happens when the metals required to make batteries catch on fire. I won't go into too much detail here, but it's not good. Then the regular people that don't have that experience start thinking about the fact that it's going to take them an hour every time they stop to refuel. Those people also start to realize that they're paying more for the electricity than they would for gas. But when the politicians first set it on TV, it sounded neat. And that is why those government subsidized electric vehicles are piling up on car lots, with no buyers. Stop looking for politicians to solve your problems. Politicians are idiots. It's that simple.
I'm a HUGE theoretical fan of EVs, because they accelerate like the hammers of HELL, allowing me to blow by you when you're driving 55 mph in the left hand lane where you don't belong, but my own experience says we need to get beyond the teething stage where we now reside. Some of the 'infrastructure', one of Biden's favorite words, improvements include: 1. More electricity generation 2. Better batteries 3. More & faster supercharging stations, 3-5 minutes for a charge 4. Faster at home charging 5. Better engineering My particularly painful experience is described below. I rented a brand new Tesla Y in San Diego on my way to the high desert near Palm Springs. 30 miles out of Palm Springs, my charge was down to 10%. I went to a TESLA supercharging complex which the on board computer said was open. It wasn't. Went across the street to a BLINK station. Both BLINK charging stations were closed for maintenance. Bunked down for the night. Put the supplied 110 volt plug into an outside outlet. 36 hours later the charge was up from 5% to 19%. Went to start the car, but the 12 volt battery was dead because the on board computer software uses the 12 V battery to allow you to charge the main battery and the main battery doesn't charge the 12 V. You also can't open the Frunk, where the 12 V sits if the 12 V is dead. Used an internet 'trick' to pop the Frunk using a 9V battery from a flashlight. Tried recharging the 12 V with a set of jumper cables, but it wouldn't charge. Called AAA. They couldn't get it to charge either. Had AAA tow it to the rental car agency at Palm Springs airport, but they first had to find a tow truck with 4 dollies to place under each wheel, because you can damage the electric motors if you try to move the car w/o going through the on board computer which needs the 12 V battery to put the car in 'neutral'. Is this scenario the ultimate 'CATCH-22'? Oh, by the way, the range was advertised as 300+ miles, but it's really about 200 since they recommend only charging from 20% to 80%. Above 80%, the charging slows down both in time and costs more for each KW above 80%. Final question: How far did Tesla's engineers have their collective heads shoved up their arses when they designed this galactically stupid engineering abortion?! Note to Elon: I'd be happy to manage your engineering department. I'm sure I could do better. I cannot do worse.
@waltzsofa1602 How are they unreliable ? They are widly used from phones to cordless drills or laptops etc. You don´t like does not mean it´s unreliablke, it´s the other way around batteries are very much reliable
@@robertkubrick3738 They did pretty well, the Tesla all in all is a good designed car with modern features but it´s still buggy and software is the issue
@@sierraecho884 But tesla removed the physical control and regulatory safety bodies are going to make them bring those back in Europe and Australia at least. Bone head move by tesla. Also really poor build quality, clicky steering with no stalks, then the plastic interior falls apart in less than 3 years. Cyber truck hubcaps wear holes in the tires so tesla says to throw them away. What car maker can't even make hubcaps?
There are 100 reason I turned my Mercedes and bought a Tesla. I will never waste a penny on gas don’t need to deal with dealerships nonsense unbelievable cost of maintenance oil change etc. charge it in my garage. Don’t need to warm it up. Just got yes no range anxiety. 330 miles is more than enough. How many times someone take there cars out of states? Once in a blue moon. Stop stupid nonsense rumor s…
We bought a tesla Y long range in February 2023. We recently sold our 2016 Honda Pilot and bought 2nd tesla model Y Performance. Sorry...I just don't see myself coming back to ICE :)
The biggest cost in motor vehicles is now, always was and always will be depreciation. With EV's the biggest individual unit cost is the battery but with second hand EV's you do not know what the previous owners have done with it. With an ICE, if the engine is f***** you can fit another engine at a lot lower cost than the total car cost. With an EV the replacement battery is more than a brand new car.
@@markseehawer3762 Only specialized car scrappers will take care of EVs. Which means the owner will have to pay an expensive scrapping fee. It will lead to EVs being dumped or burned up by the owners. The Green new deal😂
Another thing that greatly disturbs me about EV's is driving safety - a mother and daughter were on their way to a drs appt and never got there - Dad traced their journey, was met by cops who wouldn't let him get close to the bad accident scene he found - they had hit a tree and both died. I find myself wondering about vehicles that can go zero to 60 in a crazy small time - or more than 60 - what happens if you accidentally hit the wrong pedal? A seizure? A sudden stomach cramp? It is bad enough in a regular car with adequate horsepower, but what if you have a crazy fast vehicle? A very survivable mistake or accident can suddenly become a very fatal one - with no real time to react.
@ap What happens if you accidentally drive an ICV? Well, first 10 million people die every year, meanwhile a hundred million more suffer serious physical, cognitive & emotional illnesses from the pollution, & the fossil fuel resource curse offers war, autocracy, oppression, repression, poverty, & inequality. Oops. Then there’s that annoying ending-civilization-&-nature-through-climate-catastrophe thing. So much like accidentally running over an endangered ocelot or slime mold.
I get pissed off when one of my Milwaukee batteries dies prematurely and have to buy another one. I can't even imagine having to go through that with a car.
I've been around for a long time. In the 1980's I watched the Insurance industry raise rates on small private airplanes to an unsustainable cost. That resulted in companies like Cessna (who at the time sold more individual airplanes than any other company) and others to vacate the small airplane market and make no new small airplanes for over 10 years. I'm guessing that the automotive insurers will also be forced to raise insurance rates on E.V.'s to an unsustainable level. Meaning that potential buyers of E V 's will just not buy them once they have calculated in the super high cost of insurance. If no one is buying them, then manufacturers will have to stop making them. No company can survive building products that no one will buy. (I'm guessing a lot of "Horse and Buggy" manufacturers closed up shop within a few years of Henry's factories cranking out thousands of Model T's. .
Not really . At £ 7 uk pounds a gallon ! I’ve. Owned my inoniq 5. For. Three Years Not one. Problem, Smoove as silk , well I do have. Three phase Power &. Of. Street Parking , at 12 pence sterling . Per Klh watt . I. Charge. Over. Night , SAVED MY SELF OVER £1800 / 2000 pounds per. Year
You are dead wrong. The proportion of EV owners returning to ICEs is minute. Anyway all new cars must be 100% EVs from only a few years hence. This is just a fossil fuel outfit propaganda piece.
Bollocks. I have a Tesla for 3 years. Zero problems . Saved 1000s on fuel costs. Super fast and safe. Awesome software. Zero maintenance. No battery issues or charging issues. Road trips no problem. Would never buy a gasser again.
….Have u ever owned a Toyota or Honda? Coz im expecting 10 years and 200,000km of trouble free driving. And if the money i saved from fuel n traditional maintainance in a BEV is offset by the higher price compared to an ICE/hybrid, then im sorry, im not “saving” anything, im recouping what i initially lost. And check back if ur BEV has any government rebates, coz if it has, then put that value back in so u know the actual price of ur BEV. And yes, depreciation is a thing. A $1000 smartphone depreciating like a rock thrown in water over the next 3 years is an annoyance. A $40k car depreciating like it fell off a cliff is a financial catastrophe.
@@arsyadidris6349 Nope. Fuel & maintenance savings MORE than make up for (temporarily) 7% average higher purchase price. EV TCO is less. The actual price of Arthur’s EV is what he actually paid for it, unless you want to subtract the unfair advantage given to fossil fuels & ICVs. Fossil fuels have gotten 100 times more subsidies than renewable energy over the years ($7 trillion every year globally) & get $6 trillion a year in externalities (subsidies by another name). That doesn’t even include the massive government subsidies provided for roads, which is only partly paid for by vehicles taxes. US ICV makers got a $17 billion bailout in 2009 with no strings attached. They thanked the county by continuing to systematically lie about RE & EVs, which are absolutely necessary & inextricable solutions to the climate & larger psycho-ecological crisis. Automakers should have been given a choice: go bankrupt or agree to rapidly (By 2020, eg.) shift to making only EVs, with some fraction (30%?) being public transit vehicles--buses, trains, light rail, high speed rail. ICVs depreciate about 800% on leaving the showroom, don’t they?
You left out the main reason... the owners bought a non-Tesla. (Tesla owners are 87% faithful to the brand -- highest of all buyers -- and Tesla only sells full EVs.) If legacy auto ever makes a quality EV, they will sell all they make.
I'm still hopeful for a future of practical electric cars.. Or maybe something different with a similar simple working theory of being so powerful and efficient at the same time with so much less components. The idea of motors changing the frequency and being generators while braking is so damn satisfying too bad the implementation isn't practical for consumers yet
Electric propulsion is much better than ICE (glorious noise notwithstanding!). The problem is getting the electrons to power it - current battery tech is woefully inadequate (and dangerous). Gasoline is just so convenient.
@@stevemawer848 Battery tech is just fine, thank you. And improving incredibly fast as it gets more efficient & powerful. Range reached 620 miles this year & is expected to be 800 within a year or 2, though solar, wind & battery technology has generally beaten expectations...by A LOT...as prices have dropped, also wildly exceeding expectations. Renewables are cheaper than any other source, safer, faster, more reliable, more resilient, more democratic, better in every way. Done right, no storage is needed until VRE reaches 80% of a grid. (Namez Raam) Fossil fuels kill 10 million people a year, seriously sicken a hundred million more, kill uncountable other beings, cause poverty, inequality, autocracy, oppression, repression, war. But conveniently. ICVs burn 20-60 times more often than EVs, & are more likely to hurt or kill when they do. Numerous highway safety agencies & other organizations around the world, or at least on both sides of the Atlantic, confirm.
Electricity rates are rising because the govt is mandating green energy which is more costly than existing hydrocarbon plants. This will continue until we adopt nuclear energy on a massive scale to reduce costs.
No problem for me..I have no intention of buying an EV to start with.
Unless Biden and his minions force you to after the upcoming riggged election.
Support your local smog repair shops. Dummy!
Absolutely why would you in the first place. There is plenty of options of hybrids for people that are concerned about the emissions. And for real enthusiasts the EV market is going to be a substandard car market dominated by cheap options from china, don't fix it just trash it.
We love our Model Ys. We'll never go back to gas.
@@777Outrigger I rode one on Uber and is really noises everywhere man, sounds like those cheap taxis you get in India or southamerica, took me by surprise, for real LOL.
The only thing faster than an EVs acceleration is it's depreciation....
EV's and computers are a good double if you want to write off tax and that is it.
@@russellhorsefield9199 Is that the reason why you got an EV? For a damn tax right off? Haaa, ha,ha,haaaa...lol!!!🤣.... sorry but the United States government can't bribe me. I can see if he simply brought it for you. ...lol! I guess everyone has a reason why they buy their cars....
Money down the drain.
I figure the price on them will drop like flat screen TVs did. Biden already had to slap massive tariffs on Chinese EVs because they were about to flood the market with what a lot of people, including Warren Buffet, says is a good car. BYD
Just like the green agenda it's a lie
7 reasons, 1st money too expensive to own, 2nd got too complicated, 3rd batteries, 4th interest rates, 5th car insurance, 6th range anxiety, 7th not reliable as thought.
Wish YT would let us Up vote this like 100,000 times.
Plus where are you going to take it in for a repair other than the dealers? I found the dealers to be more expensive and some are just out and out ripoff.
Many charging stations are broken at stations.
Time wasted waiting for charges.
Home charging station average cost for installation is somewhere around $2000.00 from my understanding.
Most power plants burn fossil fuels so carbon emission savings is negligible.
yeah shittiest idea ever for going electric period
@@jglee6721 The same is true for high end ICE vehicles.
A mate of mine has a BMW EV, he's sick of it doing its own thing and taking unwanted control, he said he's going back to an ice vehicle that he can control.
Tell your friend that he has one of the worse EV that ever hit the market. When he could have had the very best Tesla a true American car top world seller.
@@sat7755 Even so, a Lada is more reliable than a Tesla.
@@MrLeadb1 Is it more reliable than a Yugo?
@@mikeifyouplease I haven't heard about a Yugo in decades! I'm sure there are many still driving even now. But will a Tesla still be driving after two decades?.......I don't think so!
@@MrLeadb1 Yes, you're probably right, but I do remember some of the funny stories about Yugos. One was if you bought a legit car on the market, they would throw in a Yugo as part of the deal. Then there was the crossing of the wires, so that operating the lights, would turn on the wipers, and vice versa.
Also, smoke would sometimes fill the cabin, for no reason...except you made the mistake of turning the engine on. And finally, how some of the gear sticks were glued to the car, rather than welded.
Who said it was unexpected? Some of us expected it all along. 😊
The EV vehicle's was a bad idea from the corrupt politicians. They try to force the population to buy their bad idea and most of us never fell for it. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Not yet, but you will, because you will not be able to afford an ICE contraption for long and the Hybrids are even worse, but apparently how would you know that? Considering your language that exposes your limited knowledge on the matter discussed.
@@sat7755 They are outlawing the best, cheapest, cleanest fuel-Natural gas so soon my electric bill will go from $100 month for heat to $1000 month. Leftist destructive dreamer utopian policies will destroy the world. And BTW, I would bet your life I am way more knowledgeable and intelligent than you will ever be capable of.
Yes, we will when ICEs are banned, by then, EVs will be much, much cheaper, and other problems will be fixed/replaced.
But now EVs are a waste of money. Car dealerships have high prices with a normal mechanic the repairs are 50+% cheaper. Since EVs are new, there aren't many choices, but in 15+ years, it will be a different story.
Why pay a lot more money for something.....
@@dchubworldsharenetwork Yes you are correct about EV in dealerships that are by far Inferior to Tesla, but Tesla do not sell through dealerships but factory direct to customers worldwide, in fact they are the consolidated world leaders both in quality , efficiency, safety and extremely low running costs. I have been driving one for 5 years without any problems what so ever and it saves me close to $4.000 a year from the high costs of my wife ICE contraption in comparison.
I for one ,didn't fall for it either.
The Green Deal what a Sham
Every single american could own an EV and it still wouldn't even scratch the surface. Do the research and see all the CO2 and green house gases imited to make the EV you drive. Battery production and lithium mining causes pollution. Cobalt is very toxic to humans yet it is harvested from the ground by women and children with very little to no protective equipment. Yes, like you said, "What a shame."
The green deal idea is not a sham. The sham is the unreliability of the charging network and the week engineering of the cars
And how do EV owners feel about charging their cars at public charging stations, in sketchy
parts of town, in all sorts of weather conditions, at odd hours... while traditional cars whiz on by?
Like I was always compromising for the sake of owning my EVs and got rid of the last one in favour of a hybrid. No regrets and don't miss my Ioniq 5 EV.
@@ScubaSteveCanada Good move! I have purchased three Priuses of different generations over the years. I have not regretted those decisions.
Got some flack in the beginning, but looks like I have had the final laugh. (Though in reality, I would NEVER laugh at anyone for their car purchase.)
@@mikeifyouplease a hybrid is an EV, only it gets its electricity from a gas generator.
A diesel Train is also all electric, as it gets its electricity from a diesel generator.
@@dera6347 __My Toyota Prius has an electric motor and a gas engine.
Sometimes it run on electricity. Sometimes it runs on gas. Sometimes it runs on both.
They don't.. they charge at home. For the price of a coffee.. no brainer.
I wonder what the best opportunities to invest now are, there are opinions but a little later I find out these opinions don't matter as a totally different turn of events play out with the stocks they discussed therein...
stocks are overrated now. buy gold , 5% in crypto . rest in cash. and wait for the stock/property/land. price to crash . but them after it stops dropping for 7 - 12 months at the bottom.
@@chloeanderson543 I successfully trade in my own portfolio, and also follow others because I'm interested in their strategies. I realized I've got better at managing the trader's strategies too. There's nothing wrong at all with having someone far more dedicated manage some of your portfolio.
I successfully trade in my own portfolio, and also follow others because I'm interested in their strategies. I realized I've got better at managing the trader's strategies too. There's nothing wrong at all with having someone far more dedicated manage some of your portfolio.
At first, I wasn't too pleased with my gains compared to my previous performances, I was doing so poorly, I thought I needed to diversify into better assets, so I got in touch with an investment-advisor. That same year, I pulled a net gain of 550k, which is about 10 times more than I average on.
@@finleysterling562 My portfolio has been in the gutter for the entire year, so I started researching new ways to profit in the market, but everything I tried just seemed to miss the mark. Please let us know the name of your financial advisor
I'll never go back to ICE, I loved my 2018 Tesla Model 3 LD duel motor with FSD and now love my new Model 3 Highland LR dual motor with FSD transferred for free from my 2018 model
We have had our 2023 VW ID.4 for a year and we love it! We have saved $$$s with it, home charging is cheap and convenient. All this negative stuff is ridiculous. I agree, nothing is perfect, but we do not regret purchasing our EV.
until you go to sell it
Wait till it goes wrong .Will u change your mind ,oh yes
I purchased a 2024 Cadillac Lyriq 6 weeks ago and I love it. I will never go back to gas. It's a great car by a great US company.
Imagine the stress of being stuck in traffic after an accident with your EV battery on less than 10% and your charge point over an hour away at current traffic flow. People don't need that kind of extra stress in an already stressful life.
It's ain't designed for long trips in my opinion.. USA might be the worst country to start implementing electric cars
Imagine being dumb enough to say something that stupid. Infrastructure is a problem but if you turn off heat and A/C you likely will make it fine. It certainly won't be comfortable but if you planned your trip that poorly then yeah you shouldn't be an EV adopter at this stage. Dumb EV adopters have really created a lot of FUD. Instead be happy you have an EV that is not wasting power idling and polluting the local air. However a great option is to have an EV for a daily driver and rent an ICE vehicle for road trips and other rare use cases where EVs cause issues. I think that makes a lot of sense for a lot of people.
Your EV isn't using electricity when 'stuck in traffic'; it's NOT idling like an ICE vehicle. (A/C will use a little but you can roll down the windows and turn off the A/C).
That’s correct engines keep running even while idle. Not the same with EVs. But like anything in life driving around on E and getting stuck in traffic is no fun either…AAA will is a great idea for those people.
People really should educate themselves before talking shit
This is an accurate assessment of why, after owning a 2020 Kona EV and a 2022 Ioniq 5 EV that I now have a 2024 Tucson hybrid. The Ioniq 5 was one of the best vehicles I ever owned but why should I have to compromise for the sake of owning an EV? Maintenance was higher than expected. Software updates were few and far between. 350KW chargers were few and far between in Ontario. Charger reliablilty needs work. Wait at least 5 - 10 years for the charging infrastructure to be ubiquitous, as it is for gas and diesel stations, before even thinking of buying an EV. BTW, you can't charge from home during a road trip so get rid of that excuse for cost savings.
Because they are shite ? End of story?
Depends on the EV but the infrastructure sure is shite. I now drive a hybrid, not any of the 2 EVs I used to own.
"US EV sales increased 47% in 2023 versus 2022, increased 142% versus 2021, increased 356% versus 2020, and increased 385% versus 2019" - (CleanTechnica).
That's why the Oil and ICE industry starts hating EV's. They know, their business is dead.
No, the story ends with you on the E-Bus.
When politicians tell you to buy something that tells you they have been compensated by the manufacturer
AWHILE AGO OUR GOV(UK)TOLD US TO BUY A DIESEL VEHICLE ,NOW THEY DONE A U TURN AND SAID THEY ARE GOING TO BAN DIESEL VEHICLES.WHO THE HELL ARE THEY TO TELL US WHAT TO DO AND HOW TO LIVE THE WHOLE CLEAN AND GREEN AND CLEAN AIR ZONES AND NET ZERO IS A TOTAL BLOODY SCAM ,, NO C02 = NO LIFE, THESE SO CALLED EDUCATED PEOPLE ,ARE TOTALLY INSANE.PERIOD.
When oil companies tell you that new technologies that are going to decimate their profits are dead-ends, ignore them and seek to understand where the world is going.
Can anyone carry extra electricity or charge the EV on the road when they run out of battery power like I can carry extra gas or even call road assistance to bring gas .
Most problems are with US manufacturers,Ford , and Gm . Their approach is identical to ice , push the product through the door and fix the problem later. My Tesla has 190000 km with no problems ,still on the original brakes . Any software issue’s are rectified on line.
Are EV owners really shifting back? - pardon the pun-they really never left gas vechicle reliance. Over 90% of households with EVs rely on gas combustion cars. I laugh at people who drive an EV vehicle. Not the wisest of consumers.
7 years no problems. 1,000s of dollars saved on fuel. Enjoy riding the e-bus.
Not a clue, have you. Another Luddite.
Wrong. My wife and I have transitioned totally to EVs and will never be going back.
@@rogerphelps9939EV owners are never in a good mood
I like my Tesla, using the FSD for 30 days and we signed up. It’s really been amazing….
The depreciation seems to be greater than reported here. In fact, many dealers simply will give NOTHING for a used EV trade-in. They find selling a used EV nearly impossible, so they are refusing to take them at all as trade-ins.
A private sale is going to be based on what someone is willing to pay for the thing, which is usually far less than the owner thinks that 3 ton hunk of despair is worth. It comes down to taking what someone offers, or keeping that sad thing in perpetuity.
OH, and lest we forget, there is more to the insurance issue than just insuring that disaster of a car. While some companies are simply charging more to insure EV's due to outrageous repair costs, some don't insure them at all. BUT THERE IS MORE...Due to the many fires with those sad excuse for a car, homeowner policies can be more expensive - or cancelled altogether - with the overweight fire hazards on the property and, especially, kept in a garage.
1. Value: While your old EV is worth less so is the new one. So if you sell your old one for less you can turn around and buy the new one for less as well, in the end it´s about net zero. The bigger issue is, there are too many EV´s on the marked altogether since due to tax santivation they simply made too many.
2. Insurance is more expensive. Show me which company does not insure them at all, do you have any source to your claim ?
3. Statistically speaking EV´s don´t burn more often than a gas car, gas is being highly flammable. Do you have a source ?
@@sierraecho884 Restrictions on where you can park or charge a BEV are coming. Also physical controls for accessories like AC are coming back. Tesla fired 10% of it's workforce world wide and will Not make a $25k BEV.
@@robertkubrick3738 This is an different topic entirely. Restriction towards ICE´s are coming too...how does that help compare the two ? Whats your point ?
@@sierraecho884 I can park anywhere. They don't fear my vehicle like a ship sinking BEV.
@@robertkubrick3738 As I have said. Regulations come to regulate mostly ICE´s not BEV´s. You milage may differ depending where you. In retarded Americastan oder EUDSSR.
The Trade in value will be nonexistent. Who will Take a chance on a used E V ? No one .
It was pointed out that EVs lose some 50% in value over five years. But that is the retail. Trade-in is even less. Downright scary!!
You don't know your facts. Many people go for used EVs because they are the only ones they can afford. Former 2020 Kona EV and 2022 Ioniq 5 EV owner who now has and drives a 2024 Tucson hybrid.
Smell the roses.. 2nd hand Teslas are in hot demand.
@@robertkartechner5850 and the rest more like 90% .
@@ScubaSteveCanada Well Hybrids are a different story. what it means is the car has 2 engines gasoline/petrol and a large CCA 12 volt battery motor. Normally Battery motor while idling or up to 20kmh and gasoline for the rest .Toyota Prius was the first car to have this.
This is so wrong on so many measures. I’m driving a 2012 Nissan leaf. It’s company car that I use everyday. We know every expense. The range is down to 100 kms per charge, but I rarely need more than that. It’s never been back to the dealer for anything. Cost per year for 2 set of tires, 2 small 12 volt batteries and 3 wiper blades works out to $40 per year. The brake pads are over 90% remaining. Clearly all seven of your complaints about EV’s don’t apply to everyone. Maybe you are trying to use the extreme to prove your case.
There are lots of things I don't understand but this one gets me, any gas station I drive to in North America I can put the gas nozzle in my car but the government didn't tell all these EV manufacturers to do the same thing, same plug in for every EV??? NOPE! sure didn't, and you forgot one the rebates our tax dollars that were being given away is no longer happening
Because we don't have the electricity for EV cars.
In California we have rolling blackouts because no electricity.
It was like that even before EV cars.
How can EV cars be charged when we don't have the electricity.
Putting a liquid into a hole has been around a lot longer than Government
When oil companies tell you something sucks, consider the source!
Ok none of this is true?! 😂
It doesn't make financial sense...period.
yepp. But I am sure it will, that´s what EVERYBODY else thinks that´s why they tank so much, why should I buy them now if I can get a better deal later
The through life cost of an EV is now less than that of an equivalent ICE car. My EV insurance is no more tthan that for an equivalent ICE. The insurance companies know something that you do not.
@@rogerphelps9939 Depends on many factors like the vehicle model etc. Don´t be full of BS. EV´s can make financial sense, but for most people they don´t not only due to cost which is is most (not all) cases higher considering purchase price, maintanance etc. but also simply due to charging being non available. Charging at home comes again with a upfront cost for the charging infrastructure which is not for free.
They don’t make sense based on purchase price!!! Omg!
@@randallkohn6089 Not only that, you have to see it as a whole. Say you got PV panels and can charge the thing at home in this case they do make sense even despite the higher price (not always). They basically never make sense if you charge them somewhere else for a lot of money or if you drive them a lot. I rather get a hybrid they are way cheaper to buy but also to run and if the battery is dead in 10 years you can still replace it for 2k. A 100% electric battery costs 20k to replace, this does not make sense. They have to come down in price AND more chargers are needed. Both can be circumvented already by using a hybrid.
They are MUCH on brakes and tires, they are more to insure, and depreciation is ASTOUNDING.
Brakes and tires are no problem, they are even better than ICE´s but they have all sorts of other issues. depreciation is also a double edged sword, while they fall in price it also means they are cheaper to buy. Hypothetically you can sell your old for less but then right aways buy a new one for less, your loss will be net zero.
Not true on insurance I’m an insurance agent and it’s cheaper to insure then all my gas cars
@@hermanpeters549 This isn´t true either. Many EV´s have a lot of power and are expensive to repair it can be more expensive for some models, just like with any car it depends.
@@sierraecho884 Just MORE EXPENSIVE tires and brakes.
@@sierraecho884 You mean your bank account will be Net Zero.
Bought a Tesla. Will never go back to ICE. Charge it for free over half of the year thanks to solar panels.
After 19 months with my Tesla. Zero cost. Zero service. Software is stellar vcompared to other brands. 23 updates in those 19 months. New functions I did not have before. App is working great.
THAT is not what other brand owners will say.
And FUN to drive like hell. Model 3 AWD.
To conquer the market, electric cars (EVs) only have to be technically superior to the Internal Combustion Engine cars (ICE). It’s clearly the case.
1. EVs are simpler to make: Tesla, for instance, has reduced the number of pieces for the front part of the vehicle from 70 pieces to only one. (It’s the same thing for the rear part of its vehicles.)
2. Tesla, BYD and Volvo demonstrated that it was possible to produce profitable EVs; something legacy producers like GM or Toyota are unable to do. It’s because they feared bankruptcy that many companies stopped producing EVs.
3. The price of EVs is falling rapidly due to the rapidly falling price of their batteries (- 30% in 2023).
4. No cobalt or nickel are used to produce the most modern EVs.
5. EVs pollute much less than ICE cars, especially when they move.
6. EVs are more stable on roads because their heavy batteries are located at the bottom of the car.
7. EVS protect better their occupants when there is a collision due to the rigidity of their battery packs.
8. There are fewer than ten (10) moving parts in an EV engine compared to more than a thousand in an ICE car. That reduction in the number of pieces means that less machinery are used to produce them. As a result, producing electric cars creates less pollution.
9. EVs accelerate more rapidly than ICE cars when their drivers try to overtake other cars.
10. The brakes on an EV last much longer due to their regenerative braking system.
11. The dashboard of an EV is much simpler to produce since almost all the controls are on the on-board computer.
12. There are fewer liquids in an EV (windshield cleaning fluid, battery fluid).
13. EVs are roomier than ICE cars because their engines are much smaller.
14. Most technical problems on an EV can be solved ¨over the air¨ without having to go to a dealer.
15. EVs don’t need to go to the dealer for regular maintenance.
16. Everybody can buy an EV on the Internet without having to go to a dealer.
17. Recharging an EV is 80% cheaper than filling the tank of an ICE car.
18. Nowadays, there are multiple ways to produce electricity. (N.B. In 2023, solar panels are the cheapest way to produce electricity).
19. Nowadays, charging stations are everywhere while the number of gas stations is decreasing.
20. Contrary to ICE cars, EVs can be recharged at home.
21. EV owners say they have no problem with the autonomy of their vehicle.
22. If EVs explode from time to time, 200,000 ICE cars explode every year in USA.
23. Finally, we need to replace ICE cars with EVs for two other reasons. First, because petroleum is becoming scarcer on the planet and, second, because we all need to stop depending on an explosive region like the Middle East for our main source of energy.
24. Etc.
Musk just said Tesla sales in 2024 will increase from 2023. ..... And here's an interesting fact. According to a Bloomberg Survey, 84% of Tesla owners said they would buy a Tesla again, and overwhelmingly, Tesla owners are on their first Tesla. In 2023, 90% of Tesla's buyers were first time Tesla buyers because most Tesla owners have not yet reached the time to replace their first Tesla. The replacement cycle for Tesla hasn't even started yet.
Ev = Explosive vehicle.
😂
60 to 1
@@BioniqBob Yes, ICVs burn 61 times more often than EVs.
@@J4Zonian Yes, while EV are exploding into the market, ICE are just exploding.
ICE = Ice age technology.
Even a slight accident in an EV that is suspected to have caused any slight damage to the battery will be written off by insurance because battery replacement costs are so high and they cannot allow a suspect damaged battery back out on the road... written-off EV are piling up in scrapyards due to high repair costs...
Only in the US dear and even then thats a minority occurrence drummed into truth by Big Pil who are spending billions to ensure you idiots believe all the crap in existence. I live in a country where EVs are already 50% of the market, infrastructure for them is literally nation wide and they are beautiful, modern, sleek and just superior in every way to their obsolete petrol based equivalents.
EV's are the most laughable stunt. People that think they are cool for having them are not very wise.
You will learn, slowly.
So adopting something that will help us to avoid generations as yet unborn to have a liveable future is a stunt is it?
I don't think i'm cool, I love my tesla model 3 and i am a very wise 60+ yo. maybe ur drinking the wrong juice
@@rxdude5858 why did you decide to buy it then?
@@pokejuice1495 What is your reason for being not very wise.
I love my EV and charge at home at a cost of $20 a month and 2.5 years no regrets.
problem is... all these people bashing Ev's have never owned or even driven an EV. They watch videos like this and take them as truth. I have a Mach E and have had absolutely zero issues with it. Best vehicle choice I have ever made.
@@jimmytaaffe You expect people to believe what you just said?? lol
The 8th reason is that they finally got their intelligence back!
Your right, I think their finally waking up.
So funny, i'm laughing, NOT!!!!
Saw a video yesterday where an owner washed his Tesla Cyber-Urinal and the whole truck shut down... so do not take your Cyber truck into a carwash....
My VW ID.4 EV experience is pretty great !
Although EVs have their faults, I have been very happy with one I have owned for 7 years now. I don’t recommend someone buy an EV as their only vehicle. They definitely have challenges for long distance road trips and you absolutely need a home charging station in preferably a covered garage. They are slower to charge than a quick fill-up at a gas station. The charging infrastructure is not mature enough to provide a glitch free charging experience while taking long road trips. However, I love my EV for commuting to work and for local trips within a 60 mile radius of my home, even in poor weather conditions. I never worry about my range in that radius even when it is 20 below zero. I have no intentions of ditching my EV. It has saved me money so far and I have had literally no repairs so far. I am sure others have had different experiences and they may not be as tolerant of the limitations EVs place on you for long distance trips. I just use one of my gasoline cars for trips that require rapid refills. You can’t accuse me of being a crazy tree hugging liberal either. I am a solid political conservative. I love the technology and I truly believe EVs have a future and I don’t mind being an early adopter. No one should be forced to buy an EV.
Sorry, but survey after survey after survey shows the majority of EV owners intend to buy another EV. Ours is almost six years old. It has been exceptional, and we will never buy another internal-combustion car.
Strange, I know at least a couple dozen EV owners and *not one* is going back to ICE. Mostly Tesla owners.
Wait 😂
there are less ev registered in my province than there were last year according to the a.m.a.
Honestly as they become less and less expensive "due to depreciation", they are becoming more and more of a valid option. That said, one of my cars is a Plug in Hybrid Electric which lets me drive 80% of my miles on EV to work and only use the ICE engine for longer trips or if I want to accelerate faster. With 500 miles of range plus the ability to gas up when needed, the Rav4 Prime has been the best daily driver car I've ever owned.
There's a sucker born every minute
Phrase associated with American showman P. T. Barnum. I've been there and got the diploma, but not on an EV.
I'm not going back to ICE. My and kids are getting EV's.
Can't fill up a tank of gas for $2. Never.
Can fillup a gas tank at a public station for $13. Never.
problem is... all these people bashing Ev's have never owned or even driven an EV. They watch videos like this and take them as truth. I have a Mach E and have had absolutely zero issues with it. Best vehicle choice I have ever made.
Can't buy a new EV battery for $40. Work out how much its worth now .can't sell it nobody wants a used ev .😢
No one wants a crappy ev car, truck or anything electric.
Funny Loser
Really, check sale figures around the world. Anything electric? Your country probably depends on electricity
@@davidperry7128 referring to any electric ev.
Wrong. The enlightened certainly do.
@@Rjpm-iy8ni Enjoy your Pinto
A very informative video, thanks. Almost went for a full EV in 2022. Felt the infrastructure just wasn't there yet to support my driving habits. So I went for a PHEV.
I still have images in memory of seeing dozens of abandoned Tesla's in the news around dead charging stations in the Chicago area this past winter, when temps fell below Zero for a few days.
Owners not realizing you could loose upwards to 40% of your range in conditions like that. And cold also affects charging stations. Either slowing charging to a many hours long crawl, or completely shutting down the charging station.
@Do EVs have less trouble with cold than ICVs, loose [sic] a similar range because of weather conditions.
“Do EVs Have a Cold Weather Problem? Ask a Norwegian.”
This Is Not Cool, January 18, 2024
8:36 that is still in proportion to the increased weight (mass) being towed so what's the problem? More weight = more effort needed = less range, same for any vehicle
Fair go, my grandfather drove a milk float for over 30 years! he had the luxury one with 4 wheels. It never woke up a customer!
Petrolheads cannot move on. Can't they not feel the weather nowadays? EV is the most efficient transportation today
need to learn this: it's 12 cents per KWatt-hour, not Kwatt; very different things; it's their similar names that trick lots of folks
Our Tesla model 3 definitely more reliable than a ICE car (GM as always some issues), charging is super easy, we usually do it from home when necessary from the supercharger it takes max 25min from 10% to 80% the time to watch a TH-cam video. High repair cost after an accident (minor and major) is a fact. Insurance cost is similar to ICE cost, we haven’t seen any increase from an Audi A4 to the Tesla.
Range anxiety didn’t apply to us we usually never go further than 3hr travel. We did LA - SF once and it was easy, the Tesla software direct us to the right stop and time of recharge. Last and you are right, the TESLA depreciation is a huge issue because of Elon poor decision, sacrificing early owners (new Tesla cost decrease by $8-9000 for better short term sales. Friendly advice just LEASE an electric car to keep up with the technology improvements.
Something who isn’t reported in the video is the silence in the cabin so by extension the travel confort, the sporty driving experience, hands aren’t smelling gazoline anymore, starting my day with a tank full of electricity every morning! Next step leasing a second Tesla 😊
Not really buying the last reason as a Porsche is not an everyday standard motor car compared to a run of the mill Ford , GM or Toyota but the rest of the video is very spot on .
I for one will not be buying an EV in my lifetime as I am classed as a Gen X or Late Boomer.
I wished they would just make EV's uninsurable for the sake of saving their own skin from bankruptcy. At this stage there are too many risks with EV's .
@@russellhorsefield9199just SELL THEM TO AN AMUSEMENT PARK AS DODGEMS.
@@melvinplant8637 at what stupid price is on offer. Personally insurance companies really need to get some balls and make these EV's uninsurable before they become bankrupt themselves.
@@russellhorsefield9199 TOTALLY AGREE.
@@russellhorsefield9199 Insurance companies have become less profitable primarily due to the dramatic increase in weather-related disasters in recent years. The ICE to electric vehicle conversion is designed to help the insurance companies deal with their biggest problem - climate change.
Not to mention that EV's are so heavy that they cause more wear on roads.
and on tires.
This is one of the major points. There is no regulation of efficiency with EV´s like there is with Gas cars.
Yep, and ever thought of parking structures? I am sure, when designed, the architects calculated with a certain weight of vehicles. Now, if that same structure has all of a sudden cars in there that all way 50% more, not sure what would happen!
Yeah, a Range Rover is much lighter.
@@tomheim9516 Not everyone is driving a Range Rover, but all EV's are much heavier than the typical car in their size class. Maybe think before you give a smartass response.
anyone buying/driving electric vehicles is just a sucker with money , how does that old saying go " a fool and his money are soon parted" or " there is a sucker born every minute" , its hard to believe grown people can be so easily deceived :-(
I spend $8k on fuel a year am I a sucker with money
Actually the model 3 Tesla a pretty good deal not that I would get one
Eh. I paid $19K for my EV and have been driving it for 9 years. Maybe you are deceived about judging what works for people other than you.
@@DrStrange1966 problem is... all these people bashing Ev's have never owned or even driven an EV. They watch videos like this and take them as truth. I have a Mach E and have had absolutely zero issues with it. Best vehicle choice I have ever made.
Hi, you say battery fire is a worry, that gas don't have. I've seen more gas car blow up than a lot of other transport vehicles
Depletions happen to all vehicles. I seen gas engine die in a month. There are lawyers that do nothing but gas car warranty/lemon law.
Get your facts right.
gas cars don,t blow up they may catch fire and you get plenty of time to get out but those other things yes they blow up
superchargers charge around $.50 per KWH. That makes a full recharge cost almost as much as gasoline in an ICE. But, the govt is restricting gasoline so its costs are going up too.
here it´s 70-90 cent (Europe)
I love old Joe. My ICE powered vehicle becomes more valuable every day!
Lol!! I have a Jaguar XJL. I fuel up once a month at 3 to 5 minutes and not 20 to 30 minutes. Range 570 miles which supersedes any EV. Paid off at 41K and a pleasure to drive. I'll keep my jaguar and leave well enough alone.....
We have a 2017 Chevy Bolt. We have enjoyed driving it daily. We have a charger in our garage. I used to drive a combined 70 miles a day. I paid approximately $40.00 a month to charge my car. Chevrolet replaced the LG battery at no cost to me. I actually gained range from 238 per charge to 250 per charge. The new Chevrolet Silverado truck has an over 450 mile range. The battery technology is getting better and better. Tesla has granted Rivian, Ford, and GM access to their excellent widespread charging network. We have never had range anxiety. The car always has way more range than we use on a daily basis. Oh, and how could I ever forget the REGEN feature that puts added range back into the battery as you coast to a stop or cruise down a hill. This feature also saves the wear and tear on the brakes. Over-all, EVs have far fewer parts to wear out and no transmissions to break. Engines and transmissions are two of the biggest fail points on each and every ICE vehicle. After the Model T came out there were many doubting Thomases running around still hoping for the horse and buggy. Well, they all died out, but the Model T lived on. 8:36
Don't forget the extra wear of the tires by EV that you need to change new tires more frequently!
@gab Nope.
Major flaws in this report.
1.) 50% returning to ICE is untrue.
2.) Reliability is skewed because what’s baked into the statistics is EV customers going to traditional dealerships with repair shops that are already invested in the built in obsolescence (internal combustion engine vehicles )and it’s in the best interest of the dealerships who’ve been gouging from everyone to charge more for EV repairs.
3.) most EV chargers are funded by companies indirectly who lose money on the sales of EVs thusly it’s in the best interest to make EV infrastructure UNRELIABLE.
4.) EV fires are an extreme exaggeration (EV fire per 100k 65)&(ICE fires per 100k is 3,500)
5.) insurance companies are in league with big oil, and justify profit by looking at the repair costs from shops that gouge EV owners.
6.) Legacy automakers lose money on EV vehicles so they also don’t want EVs. The dealership model makes its money on repairs and EVs are considerably more reliable and virtually maintenance free. Minus tires, bodywork or battery abuse.
So you bought an EV didn't you and now your trying reconcile your decision in your own head by defending them. Am I right???
What's the resale value of your EV, little fella? 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
Wow, you're hitting the copium hard! 😂
Listen, it was kind of you to go out and take one for the team..but we all know EV's are a downgrade compared to an ICE car unless you're a town dweller who hardly goes anywhere and has their car charging whilst they sleep.
I know of people who have gone back to ICE cars after making an EV mistake..they really are like having a mobile phone on wheels..and who wants a second hand mobile phone?
Good points, you are right.
@@markseehawer3762 I have never owned an EV. But it will be my next vehicle purchase. So I have no purchase to defend in saying this post is spot-on. If you have objections to any of the points listed, why not state some facts to support them?
This is information from a TH-cam channel that has the word piston in it showing this information is biased… Not all EV are bad there is not one positive thing said in this post about them do not use this biased information from a page that is clearly trying to scare people to stick with engines… they picked one scenario with a company that doesn’t even make good EV’s lol… cmon a Chevy? What about RIVIAN… LUCID… VW I.D.. I can do the same thing with brand new vehicles purchased that need new engines…
Take this information with a grain of sand… it is biased
How's this for a reason? Private vehicles and vans are responsable for 10% of global co2 emissions, so if everybody in the world (impossible) were to switch, we still would not be making a great difference.
on a hot, & humid day in Florida, you'll see EV's with their windows down due to the air conditioning causing range limitations.
Sort of opposite in Canadian winters, I seen EV drivers with full winter gear on while driving due to heating and range loss. ICE cars produce excess heat.
@@janetyeoman1544 Which is waste heat during the summer....
@@sierraecho884 Waste heat is free for an ICE car in the summer. IS HEAT FREE FOR A BEV IN THE WINTER? LOLOLOLOLOLOL
@@sierraecho884 You also have waste cold in a BEV in the winter, more cooling than needed.
@@sierraecho884 Actually heat produced by an ICE ISN'T Waste heat, it's needed to keep the engine at efficient operating temperature. BEV Battery warming is the same thing, except you don't get battery warming as a side effect IT COSTS YOU, money and range.
Strange.. alot of people said they love electric cars
And everybody decided to jump on the bandwagon, that comes to show you, how much people think before purchasing crap.
For most people EVs are a cost effective, pleasant daily driver that will save them money. Some of the issues in this video are indeed true but some of it is ridiculous FUD
Owning an EV is like purchasing 5,000 iPhone batteries or 1,000 laptop batteries. Then, within a few years, you will have to replace those batteries.
In a scenario where 1 million people bought EVs, it's like using 5 billion iPhone batteries or 1 billion laptop batteries.
Considering there are around 8 billion people on this planet, if 1 billion people purchased an EV, it would be like wasting 5 trillion iPhone batteries or 1 trillion laptop batteries in a span of 5 to 10 years.
Is wasting 5 trillion iphone or 1 trillion laptop batteries that only last around 10yrs or less is still an environmental friendly?
No one wants to buy a second-hand EV with an old battery. Battery replacement is also very expensive.
Basically your EV is disposable.
lol 14 cents in the US is already a 10% increase, while I am paying 45cent here in Europe. Charging costs 70-90cents here. Forget it, the more EV´s there are the higher the price for charging.
In Finland supercharger is 0.4$ for KWH and 0.07$ if home charging.
@@solidustable 40 cents is also quiet expensive but the nordic states like Schweden Finland etc. have a different kind of thing going on. Summa summarum BEV make financial sense at the time right now only if you charge at home. Right now for the price difference I could drive my Gas car about 100.000km before the price instrease for electric hits the breaking point. I have calculated that believe me I am an automotive engineer myself xD
And the funny part is in my current living situaiton I couldn´t charge the thing at all....
One 4-hour wait at a Walmart charging area then 8 hours to charge because multiple cars are charging at once and you will pay any amount to have the car dropped in the middle of the ocean. Only those with a dedicated charging area at home can have any convenience.
8 hours to charge? That's certainly not the norm. If true at all.
That is believable. There's only so much current coming into the station and that current is divided amongst the active chargers. Theoretically, the designers weren't planning on all of the chargers being used at the same time. They should have, but I'm guessing they were trying to save some money.
Let Chinese EVs in. BYD and MG doing great in Australia and New Zealand. A lot of farming community using EVs❤.
Didn't even mention what happens to home insurance premiums when you've got an EV with a fast charger in the garage.
I bought EV and I love it!. Never going back to an old technology of combustion. Program to charge the car every night and ready to go every day, never worry about charging, it been for more than two years and no problems. and my electricity bill is $150.00 per month, but I have to mention that I have solar panels. I don't worry about oil change so far. The only time I have been to a garage is to do inspection on state inspection. I guest EV is not for everybody, but for me is great!
My Kia Sportage is 16 years old and has 250,000 miles on it. I'll bet it will still outlast your EV.
Your case is the best case for an EV owner. I am happy for you however your situation is probably suited for 50% or so of all people. And don´t forget the battery degrades rather fast in hot climate, when using the super charger and when charging above 80%. It means when doing one of those things you will lose about 25% of capacity in 5 years. EV´s are fine, they are just not for everyone.
Depreciation is incredible when the new model costs less than you owe on the old car !!!
Good video on mentioning the seven reasons EV owners are shifting back to ICE vehicles. Out of the seven reasons mentioned, I think the three main reasons that lead the way for the shift back to ICE vehicles are higher insurance premiums, high repair costs and home charging/charging station not being reliable enough especially in cold climate states.
@je EVs are growing exponentially around the world.
"The EV Revolution Has Passed A Tipping Point"
Cleantechnica, March 28, 2024
"The EV Revolution in Five Charts and Not Too Many Numbers"
The exponential growth of electric vehicles marks the end of the ICE age, putting half of oil demand at risk
Kingsmill Bond, RMI, September 21, 2023
RMI: EV projections
1. EV Sales are growing exponentially up S-curves
2. Forecasters keep underestimating the speed of EV growth
3. The drivers of change are getting stronger
4. Exponential growth will continue
5. The growth of EVs pushes the ICE fleet and oil demand for cars into terminal decline
EV repair & maintenance is cheaper than ICVs.
So is fuel. EV TCO is cheaper.
EVs pre-condition, ie, when necessary, they heat themselves to the temp needed for charging & operation
Rumor mongering has no limits
Transitioning from traditional internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicles to electric vehicles (EVs) involves similar challenges and resistance as the shift from film cameras to digital cameras. Both changes represent significant technological advancements that require adjustments in infrastructure, consumer behavior, and industry practices. Over time, as the benefits of EVs become more evident and infrastructure improves, the transition will likely become smoother, much like how digital cameras eventually became the norm.
Terrible analogy. You didn’t have to take out a mortgage on a camera. Everybody loved not getting film developed. A clear win. EV’s have been out awhile - it ain’t catching on! They wouldn’t exist if idiots in government weren’t pushing/subsidizing it.
Reason#8 The big problem EV’s have is they produce 20% more microplastic pollution because unlike hybrids, they weigh 20% more. This generates 20% more microplastic tire dust. Tire dust is the largest contributor to micro plastics pollution by far. Almost all tire dust ends up in a aquifer, which eventually flows into the ocean. It’s not your plastic water bottle as many would lead you to believe, it’s just tire dust mostly. In fact, the worst thing you can do is throw a plastic water bottle into a recycle bin, because it gets trucked by a diesel vehicle all the way to a recycle center. Almost all of this plastic then gets picked out and trucked again to a landfill. So that water bottle you threw in the recycle bin actually causes 4x more micro plastic pollution than if you just threw it in the trash.
@po Nope.
Why are you lying about EVs? And plastic? Is this a job or a sadistic hobby? PM 2.5 is the deadly stuff. Know where it comes from? BURNING FOSSIL FUELS, & BRAKE DUST ONLY FROM ICVs!
After 3 years of driving a Tesla, I have no issue of the 7 reasons above😊
My gas costs 180 bucks per month, my EV cost just 15 bucks via home charging. I pay 0.07 p kW
fuel is the least of the costs over the life of a vehicle.it has been proven that EV,s are 80% more unreliable, insurance cost higher, any maintenance cost higher and if after 8 years you try to sell both cars the ice car would still be worth around 30 % where the EV will be worth nothing just landfill, my own car which is now 17 years old has 300.000 on the speedo is still going beautifully ,original cost $36000 and still selling for around $4000 .
Your used EV is worth $0…Hahahah 🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕
Local cinemas' next blockbusters/box office hit: Classics Category: RETURN OF THE JEDI 🤺
Modern Category: RETURN OF THE V8 🏆
I've been driving EVs since 2013. I got stuck twice. In the ten years before that, I got stuck twice with ICE cars. The difference is all I needed was a charge, not a new ICE car part. Public chargers suck, except for Tesla ones. I fill up every nite at home. On the road just use a fast charger to get u to destination: not enough to "fill". I never had to pay for a new battery. Never paid anything for maintenance other than tires in 144K miles driving. Electricity cost is near free for me at home and less than 10 cents a mile on road.
EVs are the future. Not a single auto manufacturer is currently developing a new platform based on an internal combustion engine.
This is one of those things, and there are 100 of these things, that politicians can say on TV that sound good... Until 5 minutes later when you think it through.
They say they're going to push electric cars. Everyone thinks of electricity, and how it doesn't emit fumes out of the tailpipe... And they say "yay to my favorite politician."
Unless of course, you're a guy like me that ran a power plant on a destroyer in his youth. In that case, you know where electricity comes from. You remember the thousands of gallons worth of jet fuel that went through your jet engine generator to produce the electricity for the ship. You realize that most power plants that feed electricity out here in the civilian world run on coal. Then you immediately see what is real: those are coal powered cars.
The only way you produce electricity without emitting all of those fumes Is through nuclear fission... Which we've basically nixed because of the objections of the same kind of people who would buy electric cars now.
Also, if you served on a warship, you have been trained in firefighting. You know what happens when the metals required to make batteries catch on fire. I won't go into too much detail here, but it's not good.
Then the regular people that don't have that experience start thinking about the fact that it's going to take them an hour every time they stop to refuel. Those people also start to realize that they're paying more for the electricity than they would for gas.
But when the politicians first set it on TV, it sounded neat. And that is why those government subsidized electric vehicles are piling up on car lots, with no buyers.
Stop looking for politicians to solve your problems. Politicians are idiots. It's that simple.
I'm a HUGE theoretical fan of EVs, because they accelerate like the hammers of HELL, allowing me to blow by you when you're driving 55 mph in the left hand lane where you don't belong, but my own experience says we need to get beyond the teething stage where we now reside. Some of the 'infrastructure', one of Biden's favorite words, improvements include:
1. More electricity generation
2. Better batteries
3. More & faster supercharging stations, 3-5 minutes for a charge
4. Faster at home charging
5. Better engineering
My particularly painful experience is described below.
I rented a brand new Tesla Y in San Diego on my way to the high desert near Palm Springs. 30 miles out of Palm Springs, my charge was down to 10%. I went to a TESLA supercharging complex which the on board computer said was open. It wasn't. Went across the street to a BLINK station. Both BLINK charging stations were closed for maintenance. Bunked down for the night. Put the supplied 110 volt plug into an outside outlet. 36 hours later the charge was up from 5% to 19%. Went to start the car, but the 12 volt battery was dead because the on board computer software uses the 12 V battery to allow you to charge the main battery and the main battery doesn't charge the 12 V. You also can't open the Frunk, where the 12 V sits if the 12 V is dead. Used an internet 'trick' to pop the Frunk using a 9V battery from a flashlight. Tried recharging the 12 V with a set of jumper cables, but it wouldn't charge. Called AAA. They couldn't get it to charge either. Had AAA tow it to the rental car agency at Palm Springs airport, but they first had to find a tow truck with 4 dollies to place under each wheel, because you can damage the electric motors if you try to move the car w/o going through the on board computer which needs the 12 V battery to put the car in 'neutral'. Is this scenario the ultimate 'CATCH-22'?
Oh, by the way, the range was advertised as 300+ miles, but it's really about 200 since they recommend only charging from 20% to 80%. Above 80%, the charging slows down both in time and costs more for each KW above 80%. Final question: How far did Tesla's engineers have their collective heads shoved up their arses when they designed this galactically stupid engineering abortion?!
Note to Elon: I'd be happy to manage your engineering department. I'm sure I could do better. I cannot do worse.
You experience is annoying but also super funny. Thank you for sharing. Tesla is like Apple, all talk no substance
I actually think the tesla engineers did about as well as they could considering the nature of the BEV and also allowing for planned obsolete.
@waltzsofa1602 How are they unreliable ? They are widly used from phones to cordless drills or laptops etc. You don´t like does not mean it´s unreliablke, it´s the other way around batteries are very much reliable
@@robertkubrick3738 They did pretty well, the Tesla all in all is a good designed car with modern features but it´s still buggy and software is the issue
@@sierraecho884 But tesla removed the physical control and regulatory safety bodies are going to make them bring those back in Europe and Australia at least. Bone head move by tesla. Also really poor build quality, clicky steering with no stalks, then the plastic interior falls apart in less than 3 years. Cyber truck hubcaps wear holes in the tires so tesla says to throw them away. What car maker can't even make hubcaps?
There are 100 reason I turned my Mercedes and bought a Tesla. I will never waste a penny on gas don’t need to deal with dealerships nonsense unbelievable cost of maintenance oil change etc. charge it in my garage. Don’t need to warm it up. Just got yes no range anxiety. 330 miles is more than enough. How many times someone take there cars out of states? Once in a blue moon. Stop stupid nonsense rumor s…
We bought a tesla Y long range in February 2023. We recently sold our 2016 Honda Pilot and bought 2nd tesla model Y Performance. Sorry...I just don't see myself coming back to ICE :)
The biggest cost in motor vehicles is now, always was and always will be depreciation. With EV's the biggest individual unit cost is the battery but with second hand EV's you do not know what the previous owners have done with it. With an ICE, if the engine is f***** you can fit another engine at a lot lower cost than the total car cost. With an EV the replacement battery is more than a brand new car.
EV is superior than ICE.
I have a Tesla for 8 years and is so superior. . Get Tesla and you will never look back. Smart phone to a dumb phone
So who’s gonna buy those used e/v
More important what auto salvage yard is going to want to take them either.
@@markseehawer3762 Just the salvage yards that are tired of the business and have really good fire insurance.
@@markseehawer3762 Only specialized car scrappers will take care of EVs. Which means the owner will have to pay an expensive scrapping fee. It will lead to EVs being dumped or burned up by the owners. The Green new deal😂
Hybrids solve about 2/3 of the problems with EVs. But there is still that remaining 1/3 and it is considerable. So WHY BUY ONE?
Another thing that greatly disturbs me about EV's is driving safety - a mother and daughter were on their way to a drs appt and never got there - Dad traced their journey, was met by cops who wouldn't let him get close to the bad accident scene he found - they had hit a tree and both died. I find myself wondering about vehicles that can go zero to 60 in a crazy small time - or more than 60 - what happens if you accidentally hit the wrong pedal? A seizure? A sudden stomach cramp? It is bad enough in a regular car with adequate horsepower, but what if you have a crazy fast vehicle? A very survivable mistake or accident can suddenly become a very fatal one - with no real time to react.
you forgot the computer that controls the car going crazy.
@ap What happens if you accidentally drive an ICV?
Well, first 10 million people die every year, meanwhile a hundred million more suffer serious physical, cognitive & emotional illnesses from the pollution, & the fossil fuel resource curse offers war, autocracy, oppression, repression, poverty, & inequality. Oops.
Then there’s that annoying ending-civilization-&-nature-through-climate-catastrophe thing. So much like accidentally running over an endangered ocelot or slime mold.
Would be nice to know exactly how many Eevee owners are going back to gas numerically and percentage wise😮
I get pissed off when one of my Milwaukee batteries dies prematurely and have to buy another one. I can't even imagine having to go through that with a car.
Stop wit the FUD. EV owners are not going back to gas. 🤦♂️
Oh they are.Here's one
I've been around for a long time. In the 1980's I watched the Insurance industry raise rates on small private airplanes to an unsustainable cost. That resulted in companies like Cessna (who at the time sold more individual airplanes than any other company) and others to vacate the small airplane market and make no new small airplanes for over 10 years.
I'm guessing that the automotive insurers will also be forced to raise insurance rates on E.V.'s to an unsustainable level. Meaning that potential buyers of E V 's will just not buy them once they have calculated in the super high cost of insurance. If no one is buying them, then manufacturers will have to stop making them. No company can survive building products that no one will buy. (I'm guessing a lot of "Horse and Buggy" manufacturers closed up shop within a few years of Henry's factories cranking out thousands of Model T's.
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Not really . At £ 7 uk pounds a gallon ! I’ve. Owned my inoniq 5. For. Three Years Not one. Problem, Smoove as silk , well I do have. Three phase Power &. Of. Street Parking , at 12 pence sterling . Per Klh watt . I. Charge. Over. Night , SAVED MY SELF OVER £1800 / 2000 pounds per. Year
You are dead wrong. The proportion of EV owners returning to ICEs is minute. Anyway all new cars must be 100% EVs from only a few years hence. This is just a fossil fuel outfit propaganda piece.
Bollocks. I have a Tesla for 3 years. Zero problems . Saved 1000s on fuel costs. Super fast and safe. Awesome software. Zero maintenance. No battery issues or charging issues. Road trips no problem. Would never buy a gasser again.
….Have u ever owned a Toyota or Honda?
Coz im expecting 10 years and 200,000km of trouble free driving.
And if the money i saved from fuel n traditional maintainance in a BEV is offset by the higher price compared to an ICE/hybrid, then im sorry, im not “saving” anything, im recouping what i initially lost.
And check back if ur BEV has any government rebates, coz if it has, then put that value back in so u know the actual price of ur BEV.
And yes, depreciation is a thing. A $1000 smartphone depreciating like a rock thrown in water over the next 3 years is an annoyance. A $40k car depreciating like it fell off a cliff is a financial catastrophe.
@@arsyadidris6349 Nope. Fuel & maintenance savings MORE than make up for (temporarily) 7% average higher purchase price.
EV TCO is less.
The actual price of Arthur’s EV is what he actually paid for it, unless you want to subtract the unfair advantage given to fossil fuels & ICVs. Fossil fuels have gotten 100 times more subsidies than renewable energy over the years ($7 trillion every year globally) & get $6 trillion a year in externalities (subsidies by another name). That doesn’t even include the massive government subsidies provided for roads, which is only partly paid for by vehicles taxes.
US ICV makers got a $17 billion bailout in 2009 with no strings attached. They thanked the county by continuing to systematically lie about RE & EVs, which are absolutely necessary & inextricable solutions to the climate & larger psycho-ecological crisis. Automakers should have been given a choice: go bankrupt or agree to rapidly (By 2020, eg.) shift to making only EVs, with some fraction (30%?) being public transit vehicles--buses, trains, light rail, high speed rail.
ICVs depreciate about 800% on leaving the showroom, don’t they?
You left out the main reason... the owners bought a non-Tesla. (Tesla owners are 87% faithful to the brand -- highest of all buyers -- and Tesla only sells full EVs.) If legacy auto ever makes a quality EV, they will sell all they make.
I'm still hopeful for a future of practical electric cars.. Or maybe something different with a similar simple working theory of being so powerful and efficient at the same time with so much less components.
The idea of motors changing the frequency and being generators while braking is so damn satisfying too bad the implementation isn't practical for consumers yet
Electric propulsion is much better than ICE (glorious noise notwithstanding!). The problem is getting the electrons to power it - current battery tech is woefully inadequate (and dangerous). Gasoline is just so convenient.
@@stevemawer848 Battery tech is just fine, thank you. And improving incredibly fast as it gets more efficient & powerful. Range reached 620 miles this year & is expected to be 800 within a year or 2, though solar, wind & battery technology has generally beaten expectations...by A LOT...as prices have dropped, also wildly exceeding expectations. Renewables are cheaper than any other source, safer, faster, more reliable, more resilient, more democratic, better in every way. Done right, no storage is needed until VRE reaches 80% of a grid. (Namez Raam)
Fossil fuels kill 10 million people a year, seriously sicken a hundred million more, kill uncountable other beings, cause poverty, inequality, autocracy, oppression, repression, war. But conveniently.
ICVs burn 20-60 times more often than EVs, & are more likely to hurt or kill when they do. Numerous highway safety agencies & other organizations around the world, or at least on both sides of the Atlantic, confirm.
Bosch the world biggest parts supplier say 70% by 2030, this video is pure FUD
Electricity rates are rising because the govt is mandating green energy which is more costly than existing hydrocarbon plants. This will continue until we adopt nuclear energy on a massive scale to reduce costs.