PAINT PRIMER GUIDE | Which Primer Should You Use? | How to Choose Paint
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- PAINT PRIMER GUIDE | Which Primer Should You Use? | How to Choose Paint
Do you need a latex primer, oil primer, or a shellac primer? Have no idea what makes each one different? This is a paint primer guide video that goes over the basics on the different primers that exist and what differentiates them. Class is in session!
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Awesome video! Very informative. I am attempting a furniture restoration for my niece and have several different pieces, including a wood dining set and a laminate/ particle board closet and computer desk. I did some research yesterday and learned that a shellac-based primer would be good at blocking wood bleeding and also help the paint adhere to the laminate but at the hardware store today the sales rep was trying to talk me into buying Gripper, which he said was water-based. I ended up going with the shellac but would a water-based primer work just as well for painting furniture? My niece is a new mom so she'll need something very durable.
Nice summary. Learned a great deal. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm looking to spray my cabinets with BM Advanced but I'm on the fence on the primer, what do you recommend? Stix, B.I.N, or the BM Advanced primer? The cabinets are made of MDF and I believe in pine as well. Thanks!
Me too. Thank you for your video.
excellent, informative, thanks! I want to know about what type of paints you can topcoat over primers. For example, I have been told to never put an oil based paint over a latex primer, and vice versa, but others have told me that mixing them is no problem. Confusing.
Hey thanks!! I am painting a really red wall, what primer should I use?
what primer should I use for my wood pannel walls indoor that have tannin bleeds....
I’m repainting a brick house. I want the highest quality primer and paint to last thru the hot sun shining of the Deep South. What primer do you recommend? Thank you for your video, it explains why the oil based primer on my wood shed has completely peeled away from the wood after 30 years in the areas that had the most sun.
I have a old white laminate countertop it's coffee stained in many spots. Recommendations?
White to paint solid almond color.
How do you paint flat paint over... eggshell, pearl, satin, semigloss? Do you need a primer? Deglosser? Sand?
What primer would you recommend to block out odor from a smoker. Should i spend the extra on Zinsser B-I-N Advanced or is the bulls eye 1-2-3 good enough. Or is there something even better?
Working to restore my fathers house. He was an indoor, windows closed 3 pack a day smoker. Going to clean everything with TSP, my question is, Will the kilz restoration primer work? They apparently no longer use oil but some new technology of water base. The only shellac primer I can find, Bins, is incredibly expensive.
what primer do you recommend for newly plastered walls that are smooth like glass?
(blue-board and plaster)
I absolutely love this video, I learned a lot great video. I subscribed & liked this well done 👍
Hey Michael! Welcome and thanks so much!
I used shellac primer then for second coat put oil primer over the dried shellac primer. It didn't cover very well so..... My question is ,can I do a 3rd coat with my shellac or even a water based primer after it's good and dry of course. Thank you
I have a room in my basement I just put new drywall on. I also am going to be priming an exposed ceiling with wood, metal pipes, wires, pvc, etc. I have a sprayer to apply but debating what primer to use.
I went to a PPG store recently about a project I am getting ready to do. We are turning a upstairs office I to a nursery. The room has chair rail and bead board (pine) that has at least 1 clear coat on it. The salesperson I spoke to noted that he thinks if I just do a light scuff of the chair rail, bead board and trim them I would not need to prime? We were thinking of using simply white for the trim color and sandy beaches for the wall color (both BM colors). If we were to go with PPG paints which paints would you advise for the trim/bead board and then the walls?
Whats the best primer to paint straight over silk emulsion ceilings and walls?
Hi there , was thinking of using zinsser 123 water based for some barewood furniture I just made then Helmi 30 for the top coat. Do you think the Helmi will take to it well and do you think one coat of zinsser is good enough? ps its new wood so no surface issues. thanks in advance
Hi
I like you video and knowledge about the paints and primer..
I have one question..
Can I use post-catalytic primer on drywall .. ( M L campbell post-cat primer basically)
Thanks in advance..
I need to prime and paint 1970s dark wood paneling. Which oil based primer and which paint would you recommend?
I have damaged, ripped brown paper drywall after backsplash removal. I plan on fixing it with Zinser BIN and joint compound. The manufacturer mentioned using a drywall primer before backsplash install.
Can I use INSL-X Stix Waterborne Bonding Primer underneath Acryl Pro Professional Tile Adhesive or will it not bind to the tile adhesive and interfere with my backsplash install?
I am looking to paint my sheds but years ago they were stained with a dark color. Not sure what kind of stain it is. What would you recommend as far as primer? Would an acrylic paint be best for the top coat? Thank you
fyi, had a roof leak (now fixed). cause water staining (greyish darkening ) of a white painted ceiling. it took 2x coats of kilz 2 primer and 4x repainting of original paint to reduce perceived darkening. there is STILL a slight difference.
i suppose i should have gone with a oil based primer.
I've been hired to project manage a haunted attraction and we make a lot of strange items into stone looks. Almost anything you can think of you'll find at a thrift store, we can probably find a way to make it stone... anyway, my question is on painting ornate items that have polished finishes or glazes that are too hard to sand well. A lot of stone props we make its easy just to throw monster mud (drywall compound and outdoor paint) or Drylok... but for things that don't really need the extra hardening, or have detail work that we need to keep to spraying, I want to make sure i'm adhering well to the surfaces and it wont chip outside in the elements all year.
I have a project now where I have metal lamps, some kind of ceramic with a glaze and other objects of unknown material that shiny surfaces. I've got a technique for making the stone look with paint, but unsure if I need to prime, or if I can just use spray paints fine.
I’m a painter and am wondering why some wood tans and others don’t. I hate using oil based primers and would rather not. But water based doesn’t seem to block out the tanning.
Definitely need to know the best primer for tobacco stains(brand names pls). Is kilz 2 at all viable for this? I have some already but if I gotta get another kind so I don't waste time and money trying to rid this home of the smell.
Should I use fine sand paper, on the primed surface, before applying paint
I am getting ready to paint drop ceiling tile. What primer would you recommend
Best for priming a tile floor?
Alkyd based primer best for new Sheetrock covering where mold was treated?
I did not like Zinseer Bullseye 1-2-3. I would never use it again. Preferred Glidden Gripper. I painted my daughter's bedroom which was a lavender and 2 coats of the Bullseye seemed to hardly cover anything. I then had to paint 2 coats of Benjamin Moore Regal Select in Simply White. Painting my son's room next month, looking for a better primer.
WHT primer should I use to paint over an interior wall that was painted with exterior paint.
What is the best primer to use on stucco, in Florida?
So,I just got old china cabinet.but after my husband went pick it up,I found out musty smell.I tried vinegar,alchohol,baking powder,proxide,peroxide, bleach.Nothing help.. I'm thinking going to use prime and paint over white.Which one is best for me?(I heard BIN is good but also oil base is good for odor.)
Hi guys great video, I'm in the UK and have used bullseye 123, bin and peelstop in the past but I have an external fence that has been treated with a near black creosote which I'd like to paint a brighter colour (obviously with exterior wood paint). I'm thinking bullseye 123 would be suitable but could you advise please??? I'm hoping it's ok with bullseye as it readily available in the town I live in. Many thanks
Hi f1 thanks for reaching out. Should be fine!
What primer would be best on bare tongue and groove pine going in a bathroom?
Is there a good primer that would act as a vapor barrier also?
Hi there. I had my new deck stained and sealed 6 months ago. The guy who did it did a terrible job. Now I think I will just paint it. What primer should I use? Oil based?
My kitchen cabinet is stain and varnish. Can I paint over them? What kind of primer should I use without no odor.
Hi, purchased a rental painted with semi gloss on all walls. Plus it smells like dog, not urine. What type of primer do you recommend and does brand matter? Thanks for your help.
What primer under chalk paint for exterior? Latex chalk paint?
I do a Google search for what primer to use on painted aluminum gutters/trim and I only get results for unpainted aluminum gutters. Any recommendations?
Do a video on Sherwin Williams Extreme Bond primer, and how to spray it with airless sprayer.
What primer would you recommend on an old 125-year-old house it's wood trim around all the windows and roof? If it's oil-based how many coats would you need? What would be your recommendation for product choice?
Stix Primer is amazing!
This is exactly what I searched for today - thank you! You're informative and you stay on topic.I'm a new fan and subscriber. May I get your thoughts about priming a very porous ceiling? The ceilings in my 'new' place had never been painted; they still have the builder-grade, grayish, textured ick that was sprayed...27 years ago. Yes, they're gross. But after cleaning them up a bit, I realized just how porous they are and so I'm a little nervous about which primer to try. Your thoughts would be greatly appreciated. I realize it'd be a blind guess, however yours is likely far better than mine.
If you have a stucco ceiling that has never been painted, we strongly recommend using an oil based primer as your first coat followed by two coats of a water based ceiling paint. Hope that helps!
Great video! What would you reccomend for re priming/painting a smokers house? The house my wife and I bought is riddled with nicotine and tar stains throughout. The celieng is textured with those circe sponge type designs. We really want the home to smell smoke free when we're done. Thanks for the help!
Whilst Zinsser products are pretty dear, there are of very good quality. I would use Cover Stain. However, it does flash/grin through emulsion. I had to coat over Cover Stain with Bulls Eye 1-2-3 before attempting to paint with emulsion.
B-I-N is also very good, but dries very quickly, so the finish can be ruined as the shellac gets sticky if you don't finish laying off quick enough. As the solvent is meths /alcohol, that's something that smells quite strong, is flammable and therefore takes getting use to.
@@bitTorrenter If I can add on to this question - what would you use if you had to keep the smell at the level of your basic paint or less (and don’t want smell to stick around.. breathing issues). Senior citizen smokes (very visible on walls) and wants rooms painted, but will continue living there during this time. Hasn’t been painted in over 20 years. Sighhh.
@@spiritmama add vanilla to the paint !
Hi! Can you please help me? I have knotty pine kitchen cabinets with some kind of urethane finish & I want to paint them. What’s the prep work? Do I really need to sand? I have 14 very tall cabinets, plus a 14 ft peninsula, 25 fr header enclosure & 8 drawers. This job is huge so looking for any shortcuts.
Thanks
What did you end up doing?
While the selection of primers you talked about was informative how about when and why to use a colored primer
How come you did not mention any primers from Sherwin Williams such as Extreme bond, Extreme block and their White Pigmented shellac primer. I used their Shellac on smoke stains and it worked perfectly. I am also interested in the Zinsser primers to and the Ben stuff.
I’m painting my RV wall’s and cabinets. They are made of a weird paper. I’m cleaning with TSP and lightly sanding. I plan to use PPG gripper primer and then bears oil based satin. Will that work?
Absolutely will work.
I have vinyl walls in my mobile home what primer is best?
Thanks for sharing, I am attempting to paint over Chip board. It is a large area and I do not want it to swell or ruin what my (deceased husband) did before he died in his Man Cave! Just want to add a little color and do it correctly! I am open for any suggestions. where do I buy this so called " Bonding Primer and it will it spray through a paint gun? Thanks again for sharing.
Hi Linda! BM INSL-X Stix primer has no issues spraying!
I have a question about primer when it comes to wanting to paint an old wooden door black I feel like I don’t want to use a white primer underneath but it Hass to be primed because it’s very yucky looking even after I sanded it down
What's the best primer to use in a bathroom?
I have trim that was stained . I want to paint over it do I have to sand over it before primming it . Thanks
Hi Edwin, if you use the right primer, and it's just stain and no gloss or anything, you don't have to do any sanding before painting, although it's recommended.
I would like to paint my laminate cabinets, in my research most pointed to shellac based primers like Zinsser Bins. What's your recommendation for painting laminate cabinets and are any primers that has less odors?
Only using a water based product will result in less odour.
What primer would you recommend for drywall and plaster? Is there one that is most affordable and still effective?
The 123 would work well. Most companies have drywall specific primers that tend to be more affordable.
Great video! I'm getting ready to paint over stained trim inside the home (baseboards, door trim, doors and window trim). The girl said I wanted an oil-based primer which is what I purchased. However, the paint is latex. Can you paint over oil-based primer with latex paint?
Question......What are your thoughts on just using the Original Kilz (oil base) Low Odor primer as a ceiling paint on a popcorn ceiling in a bedroom. I like the bright white color, it hides everything and it has a durable finish.
Hi Greg, I’ve seen people use that before on stucco ceilings, just be mindful of the sheen level. Some oil based primer‘s have more of a sheen compared to a dedicated ceiling paint.
We've used various kinds of oil products for painting stucco ceilings, including Kilz, Zinsser, and Glidden.
They do have somewhat of an enamel-like sheen, but they're very strong and reliable - Though a bit messy to apply...
Would you recommend a primer I can use on mdf furniture and indoors?
Bull eye
question, do most primers have anti fungal additives in them to resist moss and mildue growth. my walls are exterior concrete block masonry walls which have been plastered with motar and I was thinking of going with sherwin Williams optimous primer. is this a good choice for my application 🤔
You have to get rid of the mildew first. TSP should do the trick. Then rinse walls a lot, allow to dry. Zinsser 1-2-3 is mildew resistant primer that should work. Then any exterior 100% acrylic paint as a topcoat.
What primer should I use on garden fencing
100% acrylic all purpose primer would work well.
NEED HELP apartment wall is stained with candle soot and normal stains. The walls have low shine (which is semi-gloss I believe?) Q: What should I use as the primer/what's appropriate for a living room? I always thought semi-gloss was used for kitchen and bathroom only. Thank you
Does stix block tannen
I'm trying to figure out - forgive my ignorance - how to paint my kitchen cabinets. I want to do it right. I have sprayed oil based Satin Enamel finish. Would you recommend that I use an oil paint (Sherwin Williams) that I would be applying with a cabinet roller? The cabinets are white and I'm painting them the same color. They just need a re-freshening. Or could I use a latex product after using a primer. Which primer should I use should I go this route? Help!
There are many paints across different brands that can work. Send us your email and we can walk you through.
Omg started priming kitchen cabinets and used kilz oil based but now I want to try the binsser shellac . What are your thoughts? I used kilz because I was familiar with it but have been hearing a lot of positive reviews on the binsser 🤦🏽♀️
Zinnser BIN I believe you are talking of. It's a go to for me and I use it for Kit cabs/vanities, Furniture etc etc etc. 6 yrs and never had an issue yet (knock on wood) .
Be careful with the Bin shellac primer fumes. Make sure you have adequate ventilation or an exhaust fan. The can now has a bigger flammable label on the front due to some explosions that have been caused from sparks or pilot flames on stoves water heaters etc etc near by. Its also recommended to keep any compressors outside the spraying area to avoid a potential spark up and deadly fire. I have sprayed and rolled Bin primer numerous times and love it. A 3/8 nap premium shed less knit purple roller from home depot part# 1001287431 works great with lightly thinned down paint, dont worry about rough texture at first..it will dry even and sand super easy and smooth. In some cases i have used Bin as primer and top coat for interior portions of cabinets and holds up very well with 2 or 3 coats unsanded. You can tint Bin also, hope this helps.
What's the best primer that can be sanded and also fill in gaps and cracks as well as levels itself out
We like Stix!
Walls are primed w/water base, how long can I wait to paint before primer loses its effectiveness, a week or two, a month, a year? HELP,
What is the BEST odor blocking primer?
Do you mean odorless primer? if so, Zinzer odorless.
Why is there two kinds of primer/sealer/undercoater from Behr? One for semi-gloss/high-gloss and another kind for other sheens?
What happens if you just use the semi-gloss primer for eggshell paint?
There isn't such a thing as semi gloss primer.
Best Primer for new drywall? Would you need 2 coats or would 1 do?
1is enough on cabinets 2 😏
I always use Gardz Primer if it will be a smooth wall. If texture a good paint and primer or Bullseye will do the trick.
I”m using bullseye 123 to prime exterior of a house with multiple layers of (all kinds) of paint. It says bonds to anything and can be used with oil or latex so I’m hoping this does the trick, I’ve chipped and sanded and pressure washed in advance. Is this the same as STIX ?
Bullseye 123 is better to use for exterior. Stix dries to hard and may crack when using outside.
@@thepaintpeople thanks! Should I put peel stop on really problem.areas?
Please help. I want to block pet urine odour on cement. South Africa only sells Zinsser water based bulls 123. Will this help
Which primer do you recommend for unfinished poplar kitchen cabinet doors ?
Hi there, Aqualock primer, followed by Advance for topcoat is a good system to use.
I'm surprised he didn't mention PVA primer at all. I'm curious to learn where PVA primer falls in all this.
In my experience, PVA primers are only good for new drywall and mud repairs. They are cheap but if you're painting anything other than new drywall/mud it's similar to using a very thinned out paint.. takes several coats but great for new drywall work.
I still have question please. Builder (1983) used oil paint on whole house trim. Not knowing any better, I used latex over oil on the trim for the last 30 years. I’m repainting the whole house. What primer should I use so my latex adheres and doesn’t peel off with a swipe from the vacuum? I can’t imagine a way to be able to completely strip off all the latex. My den has 32 picture moldings so the trim is extensive. Thank you.
I would recommend giving it a light sand to make sure it's not coming off, then prime it with something like Stix by Insl-X or extreme bond primer by Sherwin-williams!
@@thepaintpeople thank you. I have so many of your videos tonight. I’ve been making notes as I have appointment Tuesday with the BM designer here in town. Redoing the whole house and need to choose colors. I loved the Hale Navy, Cloud White, and Chantilly lace comments. I was leaning towards Chantilly but I think, based on the recommendations I’ll go with the Cloud White since we’re probably going with a light gray flooring. I’m going to get samples and see how they look. Thank you so very much.
I just stained my stairs and it is too dark. I want to paint over them but I do not want the stain to bleed over the paint. I was told Zinnser Bulls Eye 123 Undercoat primer sealer stain blocker would do the trick. Would this be correct and the easiest way?
Yes this will work. Apply one coat of primer and two coats of the top coat
What primer would you recommend to cover dark walls? I'm repainting my interior walls from sage green and warm nutmeg to Paper White and Chantilly Lace. HD recommended Kilz2 but that took 3 coats to cover the sage green.
tint the primer at the store
Tinting the primer at the store will do nothing for you, if you were going from dark color to two whites use a good cover primer like BEN 123, or even BM Cover Up.
Hi-hiding flat acrylic white paint covers darker colors better than primers. If you’re just painting painted walls you don’t need a primer.
SOOOO many people don't get that. @@huejanus5505
(incase someone new reads this) YOU DON"T NEED PRIMER when painting over paint. (So long as the wall isn't plastered with crap like smoke, oil, crayons lol) . Think of it; you want to turn your dark walls light in the least amount of coats right? For extreme changes its going to take three coats. Most ppl look at this as primer then paint then paint. But the thing is, you want your first coat (base coat) to be as opaque as you can. And that will NOT be accomplished with primer. Using a primer strickly to change colors is a bullshit sales pitch because in this case, it'll do very little and you'll still end up putting three MORE coats of SOMETHING on. Buy a less expensive flat paint that is the least transparant and tint it to the color you are going to. Your paint store will know. The local ones. Probably not the $12/hr Home Depot or Lowes ppl. What you are aiming for here isnt quality, sheen, durability, wipeabilty, NONE of that. You are simply trying to get that dark covered. This comes down to opacity.
Is it satisfactory to tint primer with the color you plan to use as the topcoat on new wood
Hi Dan, if the final color is much lighter than the original some might, but not really necessary.
Would like to know if latex paint can go over oil or shellac primers and which primers.
Generally not recommended. You might need a bonding primer to get the paint to stick. A great overall primer is Stix.
@@thepaintpeople thank you!
need help with choosing the right prime or product to cover urine on subfloor. bought a house that was used as a senior assistant leaving and they urinated everywhere. The hall to the bathroom is the worst.
I am painting my kitchen cabinets in a house built in 1947. The cabinets appear to have latex over oil...the latex paint on the shelves stuck to the contact paper that was there. What a mess. My question is, what kind of primer do l use when two different types of pain are exposed? I sure opened a can a worms 😞
HI kay . I wish i could see the condition of your cabinets in person but just from what youre saying I woud go with a good latex primer ( after a good degreasing job with TSP )
I'd like to know how good is STIX primer to hide or prevent bleeding problems on wood ??
I think I'd recommend something like Prime-Lock for that!
@@thepaintpeople thanks for responding so fast to my question ! Now who makes Prime lock ?? And thanks again in advance
Help! I want to paint my integrated sink and countertop off white beige to white. Any thoughts on tub and tile paint? Need a primer?
What type of material are they made of?
The Paint People cultured marble. Unsure of the exact material. Will come in contact with water and scrubbing.
Stix
My husband is trying to paint the a bottom of a boat. But it dried clear after he painted it. We even added more acrylic paint but still dried clear. What can we do
Hmmm...got me stumped.
I’ve been told to use an oil base primer for my trim wood and that I can use a latex for the finish paint, is this true ?
Is it new wood or previously painted?
It will be all new , raw.
I know you cannot paint latex over oil base paint, but I’m told you can paint latex over oil base primer. Apparently it’s a smoother finish for trim paint
If that's the case then yes, I would use oil base primer.
If you use a water base primer the wood will get fuzzy and you will have to sand between coats.
Why is oil based primer being discontinued? What do we use in its place?
It won't be discontinued. There are specific cases were it will be necessary.....
Hi I bought epoxy tub and tile epoxy paint. I’m going to paint both my awful ugly tub as well as the tiles. It’s weird, the tiles aren’t regular tub tiles, they feel like they are a softer plastic surface. Not the shiny regular tub tiles. I bought epoxy paint to do the tub but I only have enough for two coats for tub. Can I make the paint go a little further by using a primer first over the tiles. Then a coat of the epoxy overtop? If so, what kind of primer should I use. Hopefully it’s not expensive as I can’t afford expensive primer, ugh!
The primer to use here would be Stix by Insl-X!
@@thepaintpeople I don’t want to pay much because I’m unemployed and I only need a small amount of the primer. Do they ever sell just like half a gallon. A full gallon would be too expensive and too much!
@@1cstreet you can grab a quart if you only needed a bit!
I live in Calgary, Canada. Most paint retail stores only sell paint and primer in the gallon. How can I go about finding a place to only get a quart?
Do you have to use water-based primers with water-based paints and oil-based primers with oil-based paint? What happens if you mix one with the other? I have some bare wood that needs to be primered before I paint, but I need to use a latex paint (everything else I am painting is covered in latex paint currently). Is it OK to use a water-based primer for this bare wood?
Yes that’s exactly how it works but I’m sure sticks will grab into anything you can try because I’ve use it before
NO! you can use water-based (latex) paint over oil paint or primer but not the opposite (oil over latex).
O by mistake put oil base primer on my wall can I paint sime gloss paint over it thank God it's a small part of the wall
Yes, absolutely.
This is great and well done. But... more confused than when i started lol. I know this is geared only towards interior/wall painting but Latex/Oil/Shellac ... mrrrrr what does that mean that Acrylic, Alkyd, and Enamel primers are nevermind traditional gessos / glues. Dont mind me I've just been trying to figure out wtf the difference is between acrylic polymers/mediums and acrylic resins/primers are OR what lime-wash/oil/casein actually requires in terms of primer material--not someone waving an affiliate link for a $70/gallon tub of petrolium distillates with chalk in it-- for the past 4 days... and the corporate nightmare we live in where everyone labels things with the same name, but no explanation or awareness of materials.. seems to making it impossible. Guess i have to go get a material science degree just to make some paint lol. My point is ultimately that they make it so goddamn convoluted in the realm of branded product these days it seems almost impossible to make controlled informed and sustainably repetitive project decisions. I'm venting my frustration, but if anyone happens to have any insight on what actual chemical substances that are in things, will stick to non-porous surfaces & make them porous-ish, feedback would be much appretiated. Pouring over equivalent SDSs for clarification or process of elimination hasnt even be very helpful, when they dont seem to require anything about non toxic acrylics. (I still would really like to know why limewash will apparently stick to [vague unreliable word] "acrylic primers" but not acrylic polymer mediums/paints, or how to even tell if something is ACTUALLY one of those things.
I am painting the interior of my house before I moved in my husband painted it dark red and gold yellow and I want to paint a light color and it's just me so which primer will cover the red easy to work with and with losing an arm and leg?
What is your favorite primer for new drywall? Everyone seems to have an opinion on this but yours I’m interested in knowing! :)
Aqualock and Fresh Start are great all purpose primers but Step One is a fantastic economical option!
Hello, I come from China, now I want to do a history in China, there are brands of paint, including art paint, latex paint, micro-cement, I wonder if you can cooperate?
do not use bin to stop tannin
Hello, I come from China, now I want to do a historic brand of paint in China, including art paint, latex paint, micro-cement, I wonder if you can cooperate? We've got teams, we've got locations, we've got live feeds, we've got online traffic
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