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Give Me an Answer - Did Jesus Have A Political Agenda?

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  • @stephenpak2866
    @stephenpak2866 ปีที่แล้ว +268

    My eyes were opened in 2007 at the university of Texas when I heard cliff speaking to a crowd about the validity of Jesus. I am so thankful for his ministry. It helped increase my faith and challenged me to defend Christ.

    • @DonnaW71
      @DonnaW71 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is so cool to hear!!😊

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why does God permit gratuitous evils ?

    • @DonnaW71
      @DonnaW71 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@jasonnoble7302 God has given us a free will. We have chosen to do evil. God is good and just.

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DonnaW71
      Do humans choose to do gratuitous evil things ?

    • @DonnaW71
      @DonnaW71 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jasonnoble7302 I think we do. What do you believe?

  • @SolidPain6624
    @SolidPain6624 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    I spent countless hours watching cliffe and his videos. He does give a unique take on the Bible. Usually, you’ll hear most people preaching the Bible in a yelling way and just quoting verses with little explaining nor conversation with others. Everybody has their own way of preaching so to speak but Cliffe is a warrior of God and that’s the bottom line. He’s planting seeds, he’s no where near perfect; but he’s emitting the light of Christ and that’s what matters.

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah… cliffes just a brain washed religious preaching human

    • @cameroneagle4370
      @cameroneagle4370 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      what you call yelling the bible calls preaching ... lift your voice up like a trumpet

    • @jandia5162
      @jandia5162 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Though Cliff definitely preaches at times, it should be understood that Cliff is merely engaging in open discussions of ideas and conversations where the topic is the Bible, faith, Jesus, logic, psychology, archeological, history, ethics, religion etc. Preaching is when we use Biblical doctrine and text to convey the gospel of Jesus Christ which is that we are all separated from God because of our sinful nature and rebelliousness against God and the only way to be reconciled to God is through His son Jesus Christ who had to die as a result of taking our sins upon himself because the wages of sin is death. Without repentance and turning to Jesus we will die spiritually because of sin and be eternally separated from God. For this reason God created a path through faith in Jesus and obedience to His word, in which we may live eternally in spirit with God. John 3 teaches that if we believe in Him we will be saved. Now we are left with the question how do I believe in Jesus? This is where you must seek the truth of God and go directly to Jesus in prayer and ask Him for this belief and for faith that comes from Him

    • @quave3996
      @quave3996 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jandia5162That is exactly what Cliffe is explaining. The Gospel is not merely preaching the Bible, because when the 12 apostles were alive, there was no Bible to quote. The first Christains had no quotes of the Bible and the people who followed Jesus did not know he was going to die & rise until Jesus told them and it happened. The diciples and Jesus had to rationalize with people & give them evidence. Therefore, it is important to connect with people in ways they can understand. Quoting the Bible is important but without espousing any evidence to pursuade them, it can have a counterproductive effect.

    • @adamc436
      @adamc436 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cliffe is very unique. He isn’t fully an evangelist, but also, not fully an apologist. He toes the line in a very unique way.

  • @mvallejo7168
    @mvallejo7168 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    The way Cliffe said, "Oh man," at the end got me laughing 😅

    • @jeffreystewart7062
      @jeffreystewart7062 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Haha same!

    • @HasanUnknown
      @HasanUnknown ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Islam is a religion who makes us to Believe in Jesus,
      We Muslims 100% Believes in Jesus,
      We Muslims Believes that Jesus is the Christ,
      We Muslims Believes that Jesus will Come Again to this World,
      Jesus did Miracles by the Permission of Allah,
      Jesus himself Never said “Im God” also Never he said anyone to “Worship Me”
      Jesus was Just a Prophet and Messenger Of Allah Only to Guide The People of Israel,
      -----------------------
      *Jesus Denies Being God* | Read ⬇️
      -----------------------
      "My Father is greater than me." [John 14:28]
      “I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to My God and your God.” [John 20:17]
      “Jesus said: 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.” [Mark 12:29]
      “Jesus, Fell with his face to the ground and Prayed.” [Matthew 26:39]
      “Jesus said, “My teaching is not my own,
      It comes from the one who has sent me.”
      [John 7:16]
      “I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement is just because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father who has sent me." [John 5:30]
      “The crowd answered, This is Jesus, the Prophet.” [Matthew 21:10-11]
      ---------------------
      *The Coming Of Prophet Muhammad In Bible*
      ---------------------
      “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. When he the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come, He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you.” [John 16:12-14]
      ---------------------
      *Allah Clears About Jesus*
      ---------------------
      [Quran:- 5:72]:-
      “Jesus has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord."
      [Quran:- 19:30]:-
      “Jesus has said, "Indeed, I am the servant of Allah. He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet.”
      [Quran:- 4:171]:-
      “Christ Jesus the son of Mary was no more than a messenger of Allah, So believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity" desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah:
      ---------------------

    • @justingary5322
      @justingary5322 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HasanUnknown That's not true STOP LYING ABOUT ISLAM. I've studied Islam in the Qu'ran and Hadiths SOOOO YEAH Islam disproves itself because it shows that Christianity and Judaism are true and better than whatever Mohammed and Allah's sickening, misanthropic and misogynistic ideologies against Women and non Muslims show that Christ

    • @Shakiahjprod
      @Shakiahjprod ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@@HasanUnknown John 16:15 "everything the father has is mine" also that passage is talking about the holy Spirit not Muhammad

    • @Programm4r
      @Programm4r ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@HasanUnknown in the beginning was the word. And the word was with God. And the word was God. And the word became flesh. And Jesus was the word.
      The difference between God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit is the same difference between water, ice, and hydrogen. They are one and the same. The father is the creator. The son is the sacrifice. And the Holy Spirit is the judgment.

  • @danielvanzandt4238
    @danielvanzandt4238 ปีที่แล้ว +99

    thank you for spreading the gospel to these people. you are truly doing the work of God

    • @martinkent333
      @martinkent333 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      BRAINWASHING MAKES CHRISTIANS THINK THE HEBREW MYTHS ARE REAL AND THE BIBLE IS REAL, TOO.

    • @justingary5322
      @justingary5322 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      AMEN fellow brothers and sisters in Christ our Lord and God bless Cliffe and Stuart Knechtle's family Apologetics ministry. I'm glad Cliffe addressed that Christ didn't have a political agenda like many people in the political landscape. I'm neither a DEMONCRATS AND REPUBLICANT 😂. Many Atheists, secular humanists and skeptics are very intelligent and logical but shows how dishonest their position can be in changing his standards for evidence by shifting the goalpost everytime it comes to what their standard of God's Existence being supported by evidence would be. It's obviously not the burden of proof for believers but God Himself to meet the burden of proof which He has for us Christian theists despite what Atheists claim are just unsupported claims. This has nothing to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a 23 year old Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college graduate. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't.
      I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict.
      Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers.
      Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years
      ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of but not macro or micro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word.
      Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.

    • @raphaelfeneje486
      @raphaelfeneje486 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      God*

    • @martinkent333
      @martinkent333 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@raphaelfeneje486 Cults and brainwashing are not sleazy! Ancient Hebrew myths are real! So are the Greek myths, Cupcake! You are a winner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @tbcreative562
    @tbcreative562 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    The patience of this duo is unreal,
    Love your work guys!

  • @robmc120
    @robmc120 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    “My argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust? If the whole show was bad and senseless from A to Z, so to speak, why did I, who was supposed to be part of the show, find myself in such a violent reaction against it?” ~CS Lewis
    May the triune, infallible, omniscient God bless you with faith in Him, not fallible man’s limited knowledge of theories (Ephesians 2:8 & Merriam-Webster, "belief , trust in & loyalty to God”)!

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว

      The universal structure reveals what is just and unjust
      Like it’s always not good to kill children
      The bible is immoral

    • @raphaelfeneje486
      @raphaelfeneje486 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amen!!!

  • @shockofGod
    @shockofGod ปีที่แล้ว +21

    That last guy with the hat on was a riot he's even confusing himself LOL

  • @Disciple793
    @Disciple793 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I hope the next video includes the rest of the last conversation. Cliff, you have a very important ministry, talking to the minds of tomorrow about the importance of understanding that tomorrow is not guaranteed and without Christ there is no hope for an afterlife.

  • @MPD_dogmom
    @MPD_dogmom ปีที่แล้ว +47

    ❤ Jesus. Just finished reading the Gospels and Acts. As simple as his message was I still found Jesus to be mysterious and found myself wondering who he really is. But I found him to also be a very respectable and loving person. Someone who had enough faith to fill hundreds of universes, endless amounts of faith and love. The kind that is unfathomable to us. The kind I want! I still get chills thinking how much he loves me and I barely love myself. ❤

    • @luislopez-camacho9121
      @luislopez-camacho9121 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Jesus always healed those who have faith and believe in him, Jesus even said all things are possible for the one who believes.

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@luislopez-camacho9121
      Tell that to the Christian parents of dead children who prayed to Jesus to cure their children

    • @boltrooktwo
      @boltrooktwo ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jasonnoble7302 Fallacy of exceptions, there are those parents that pray, lay on hands, bless and their kids are cured. Can you name one of the parents you speak of? Do you have real data or do you find only negative cases to express a bias?

    • @billyholly
      @billyholly ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@boltrooktwo Don't expect any evidence from Jason, unfortunately. I write a bit with him each several months and he is yet to present any evidence in over a year, maybe two.

    • @billyholly
      @billyholly ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@luislopez-camacho9121 ...when it is God's will, God's timing. Right?

  • @18me-sb1hg
    @18me-sb1hg 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Im gonna be in college next year and I want to be an apologist too!!!

    • @tonyputman3398
      @tonyputman3398 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I have no doubt that you can do it. God bless y'all!

  • @okhaeadeleye5313
    @okhaeadeleye5313 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    That last guy was just quoting what he read. He hasn’t loved it out. When someone tries to rob you, do you sit down with them and debate who has a more logical mind and who’s reasons are better? Or you get up and defend your property because stealing is wrong?

  • @mikeyh5059
    @mikeyh5059 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    God bless you from the UK Cliffe, would love to meet you one day, you've strengthened my faith incredibly and will always be grateful for you for that. Keep up the amazing ministry!

  • @luisclaudio4622
    @luisclaudio4622 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Cliffe has some balls. Colleges are very hostile toward religious folks speaking. Especially Christians.

    • @JonnyHalfton
      @JonnyHalfton ปีที่แล้ว +8

      hostile yet never honest or valid in their criticism. all they have is hostility

    • @Pudekz51790
      @Pudekz51790 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The reason why they are hostile is because majority of believers cannot defend their faith in a way Christian apologists do. We have to be ready to defend our faith. You can’t just go to campus and start quoting the Bible. You’ve got to learn apologetics. There are non biblical evidence of God’s existence like cosmological, teleological, ontological, morality and so on. You can do it without the Bible.

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JonnyHalfton
      Well, there white belts.
      They aren’t going to have the arguments like there no good evidence for the disciples of Jesus having died for their beliefs. They likely didn’t have a choice when the Romans found them. Very common for the Romans to kill people with different views. There’s no evidence that the disciples could have been spared if they recanted their monotheistic faith.

    • @JonnyHalfton
      @JonnyHalfton ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasonnoble7302 doesn’t change a single thing and that’s more of your opinion and less of a fact but thank you for proving that you have no point only second hand rhetoric that you have to give passive aggressively. try again neck beard

    • @JonnyHalfton
      @JonnyHalfton ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Pudekz51790 funny, they aren’t talking to the majority of believers they are talking to cliffe. you and these students need a reality check. hostility is not ok because “some christian’s can’t defend something” you sound like a massive goober

  • @triplea6174
    @triplea6174 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Keep it up guys 👍appreciate the work done on these campuses and the content.

  • @semogbonse3782
    @semogbonse3782 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks for reposting the video. I appreciate these conversations and truths worth sharing

  • @unskillfullymasterful
    @unskillfullymasterful ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It seems the first kid has a hard time just saying "i dont know".. bcus he clearly has not read through the gospel , which is why hes stuttering with his response..

    • @SolidPain6624
      @SolidPain6624 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It’s a common theme. Many people look at scripture at “face value” and use google as their prophet and it’s the sad reality.

  • @jayfry895
    @jayfry895 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hallelujah JESUS, the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE

  • @DJKrisyKrisdude
    @DJKrisyKrisdude ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The "oh man" at the end is sending me 😆

  • @Saunders7
    @Saunders7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    CLIFF,you're really doing a great job.

  • @formallyknownasjojoemcpart6684
    @formallyknownasjojoemcpart6684 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wish this kept going.

  • @robmc120
    @robmc120 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The last guy mirrors a lot of trolls seen here: a lot of "havent you read [insert subjective claim here]?" but when asked to explain & convince Christians of their worldview, "burden of proof is on you, Christians". Its the infinite circle until Jesus comes back i suppose.
    I pray the triune God of the supernaturally prophetic (Romans 1:26-31/2 Timothy 4:3/Matthew 24:6/1 Corinthians 1:18 fulfilled in reality today), historically verified (archaeologically & anthropologically by Christians & non-Christians w/enemy/early/multiple attestation, internal consistency, embarrassing reports, etc.) & transcendentally/objectively moral (Exodus 20/Matthew 22:37-40) Holy Bible reveals Himself to you in Spirit & objective truth (John 16:13). May the triune, infallible, omniscient God bless you with faith in Him, not fallible man’s limited knowledge of theories (Ephesians 2:8 & Merriam-Webster, "belief , trust in & loyalty to God”)!

    • @justingary5322
      @justingary5322 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly it's the deflective cowardly nature of trolling wannabe intellectual Atheists

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justingary5322
      Yeah… 😢
      Stupid atheists and there God destroying arguments
      Bawaaaa 😢

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว

      😢

    • @RebeccaClemonsCW
      @RebeccaClemonsCW 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi! I’m the short one in the grey shirt. We were agitated because before this clip starts, we had been there for an hour trying to ask him a question, and he had been extremely rude to us. This audio on this clip is also edited in such a way that it doesn’t include every time he would talk over us and louder than us to interrupt and stop what we were saying. This clip also doesn’t show when he got down in my face and yelled at me. This interaction, which was mostly him yelling at us and escalating in volume, ended with him waving his hand at us and saying he wasn’t going to talk to us anymore. Don’t be so easily fooled by good audio and video engineering.
      And anyway, don’t Christians do the same things to other religions, Islam for example? Christians wouldn’t just take Islam as it is. The burden of proof would be on Muslims to “prove” that their religion is the correct one if asking a Christian to convert.

    • @robmc120
      @robmc120 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RebeccaClemonsCW "We were agitated because before this clip starts, we had been there for an hour trying to ask him a question, and he had been extremely rude to us."
      I genuinely apologize for the rudeness. My point was godless people have presuppositions about reality just as Christians do, we should be able to discuss whats more reasonable/cohesive with reality, not throw names of fallible men out fallaciously.
      "The burden of proof would be on Muslims to “prove” that their religion is the correct one if asking a Christian to convert."
      As i said above, people should be able to discuss whats more reasonable/cohesive with reality, Christianity's the most reasonable/cohesive in objective reality & scientific findings; explaining origin (Genesis 1), meaning (Isaiah 43:7), morality (Exodus 20), destiny (Hebrews 9:27), order, logic, reason, sense, beauty from an orderly, logical, sensible, reasonable, beautiful God who's revealed Himself to eyewitnesses (Exodus19/1 Cor 15:6), generally in creation (Romans 1:18) & divinely in His supernaturally prophetic fulfilled in reality (Romans 1:26-32/2 Timothy 4:3/Matthew 24:6/1 Corinthians 1:18), historically verified (archaeologically & anthropologically by Christians & non-Christians w/enemy/early/multiple attestation, internal consistency, embarrassing reports, etc.) & transcendentally/objectively moral (Exodus 20/Matthew 22:37-40) Holy Bible.
      May the triune, infallible, omniscient God bless the reader with faith in Him, not fallible man’s limited knowledge of theories.Repent of your sin & trust in Jesus (Mark 1:15/Acts 3:19) before it's too late (Hebrews 9:27), eternity is a long time to be wrong (Revelation 20:15).

  • @bornagainbasics
    @bornagainbasics ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Who is Jesus when you read the Bible?"
    -uhhhh didn't read the Bible... But I read a really biased summary! Well.. it was an agnostic interpretation... Well it was an explanation of the idea of the Bible...

    • @bornagainbasics
      @bornagainbasics ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Theo_Skeptomai I personally assert that Jesus is the "invisible all powerful God" Yahweh taking human form.
      At the very least He was a real time-space man that lived, ministered, and ultimately was crucified for His heretical teachings.

    • @bornagainbasics
      @bornagainbasics ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Theo_Skeptomai "this Jesus" lol
      I have never seen Jesus in the flesh, no. When I was born again, I "saw" Him in the room but I think that was just my mind piecing together the idea that He's with all of us all the time. I had a big roadblock with the idea of a "being" outside of time, and actually caring about people individually. I'd read "Mere Christianity" if you're legitimately interested.
      Let me flip the question, have you ever observed your birth?

  • @christianresearchproject
    @christianresearchproject ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm surprised that these life seasoned students didn't come up with; "Of course He did. Jesus concocted this whole Messiah thing to get people's thoughts off of the 18 minutes of missing Watergate tape."

  • @yohannesmarbun5000
    @yohannesmarbun5000 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Huft,,, I want to see the last discussion to the end, but to be continued. God bless you cliffe and ur ministry.

    • @RebeccaClemonsCW
      @RebeccaClemonsCW 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi! I’m the short one in the grey shirt. We were agitated because before this clip starts, we had been there for an hour trying to ask him a question, and he had been extremely rude to us. This audio on this clip is also edited in such a way that it doesn’t include every time he would talk over us and louder than us to interrupt and stop what we were saying. This clip also doesn’t show when he got down in my face and yelled at me. This “conversation” (which was just him talking over us and escalating the interaction with every sentence) ended with him waving his hand and saying he wasn’t going to talk to us anymore.

    • @vikvik316
      @vikvik316 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@RebeccaClemonsCWyou see, Cliffe never said he’s perfect. Quite the contrary. And I found out after watching his videos that intellectual dishonesty and hypocrisy makes him angry. To summarise, your friend was being completely illogical to a point in which there was no logical sense to continue the argument in a normal way. “Oh but that’s rude!”, who defines that Rebecca? Is it relative based on your point of view as well? That’s the whole argument you all were having…

    • @RebeccaClemonsCW
      @RebeccaClemonsCW 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vikvik316 I usually consider an action rude if it is thoughtless, feeling-driven, tactless, and makes the other person feel negatively. For example, Cliffe yelling in my face, I would consider rude. I think that lots of people would think it’s rude. My issue isn’t whether Cliffe’s or out argument was logical or illogical. My issue was with Cliffe not listening. He does this thing where, when you ask a question, he’ll give you an answer, but his answer is to a question that you didn’t ask, and therefore isn’t a real answer. I take issue with that because it’s a tactic that’s used to sidestep. Cliffe does this, and it upsets me, because it upsets me when anyone does it. Another thing that Cliffe does that upsets me is edits sound so that it doesn’t seem like he’s interrupting, that instead he’s the one being interrupted. This clip is meant to frame my friend in a bad light, and it does just that, and very effectively too. But the actual conversation didn’t happen like that - my friend would try to say something or explain or ask, and instead of listening, Cliffe would walk away and spread his hands and interrupt very theatrically. But it doesn’t seem theatrical in this clip because of the camera. Being there and attempting to talk to him, it’s clear that Cliffe doesn’t talk to college kids for them. Cliffe talks to them to get a rise out of them for good content. This clip started after we’d been ignored for over half an hour, brushed to the side in favor of someone he had planted in the crowd to ask a question about salvation, and after he’d already been doing the thing where he doesn’t listen. It’s very frustrating to not be listened to, and this clip shows that frustration. This isn’t a conversation - this basically reality television.

    • @slimtend4010
      @slimtend4010 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RebeccaClemonsCW after reading your response I see why he brushed you and your friend off. He can tell when people have no intention of listening and only wants to argue.

    • @RebeccaClemonsCW
      @RebeccaClemonsCW 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@slimtend4010 I have no idea how you possibly got that from my response unless you think I’m lying.

  • @tartufo4870
    @tartufo4870 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    God bless 🙌 🙏 💛 💯

  • @Psa22-6
    @Psa22-6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    that last guy got an oh man from me too, what a weirdo

    • @RebeccaClemonsCW
      @RebeccaClemonsCW 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi! I’m the short one in the grey shirt. We were agitated because before this clip starts, we had been there for an hour trying to ask him a question, and he had been extremely rude to us. This audio on this clip is also edited in such a way that it doesn’t include every time he would talk over us and louder than us to interrupt and stop what we were saying. This clip also doesn’t show when he got down in my face and yelled at me. This interaction, which was mostly him yelling at us and escalating in volume, ended with him waving his hand at us and saying he wasn’t going to talk to us anymore. Don’t be so easily fooled by good audio and video engineering.

    • @Psa22-6
      @Psa22-6 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Im sure from your point of view thats what you believe happened, i wasnt there so i cant say one way or the other. But ive consistently seen Cliffe and Stuart be patient with people and talk to them when theyre being extremely intellectually dishonest. If you're not going to answer a question, just go ahead and leave, you dont have to stay and muck up the conversation, but you dont see the unseen things that are standing behind you causing you and baiting you to act how you do. May your eyes be opened and heart softened.

  • @sarahknechtle5230
    @sarahknechtle5230 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    another great one!

  • @davedavid2914
    @davedavid2914 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love you cliff God bless you and your family

  • @manewalew2845
    @manewalew2845 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finally found out on TH-cam immediately subscribed bcz I so love your answer from bible
    I have one friend of muslim your vedio help me to share jesus Christ to one of my muslim friend
    Jesus Christ is the only truth way and he only living hope
    Amen

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      “If any man come to Me and hate not his father and mother, and wife and children, and brethren and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.

  • @santomojica2980
    @santomojica2980 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello Cliff your videos are very informative that even a simpleton like me can grasp the way you articulate every example you give, keep up the good work, I am working my way back to Jesus Christ our lord and savior, the fight is real.

  • @Shrunkentable
    @Shrunkentable ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He demands all of these answers but when asked a question he gets to remain silent.

    • @RebeccaClemonsCW
      @RebeccaClemonsCW 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi! I’m the short one in the grey shirt. We were agitated because before this clip starts, we had been there for an hour trying to ask him a question, and he had been extremely rude to us. This audio on this clip is also edited in such a way that it doesn’t include every time he would talk over us and louder than us to interrupt and stop what we were saying. This clip also doesn’t show when he got down in my face and yelled at me. This interaction, which was mostly him yelling at us and escalating in volume, ended with him waving his hand at us and saying he wasn’t going to talk to us anymore. We weren’t answering his questions because he didn’t answer ours and we were trying to get him to answer ours.

  • @NowaboMusic
    @NowaboMusic ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The last guy was agreeing with the logical progression of relativism right until the point where Cliffe said "relative" and then suddenly he had a problem with it. Lol

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cliff claims that without God values are relative but he has no justification for that claim whatsoever

    • @TheMsLollidella
      @TheMsLollidella 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jasonnoble7302isn’t that just by reason alone though that there is no standard for bad or good for atheists that it’s really relative aka up to them. The only argument atheists have is society claims what is good or bad like a social contract but even then it fails

    • @MagetoLp
      @MagetoLp 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@jasonnoble7302 he explained it

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MagetoLp
      Who cares if he explained it ?
      I’m saying he has NO justification
      What’s his justification ?
      “ I believe “ ? 🤷‍♂️

  • @diversityhobbit
    @diversityhobbit ปีที่แล้ว +5

    These students are cowards they are ready to confront but they are so afraid to say state what they truly believe. It's always a smoke screen or deflection when you ask them anything direct.

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cliff likes the white belts
      That’s why he’s there

    • @RebeccaClemonsCW
      @RebeccaClemonsCW 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi! I’m the short one in the grey shirt. We were agitated because before this clip starts, we had been there for an hour trying to ask him a question, and he had been extremely rude to us. This audio on this clip is also edited in such a way that it doesn’t include every time he would talk over us and louder than us to interrupt and stop what we were saying. This clip also doesn’t show when he got down in my face and yelled at me. Cliffe wouldn’t answer our questions, but then demand we answer his. This interaction, which was mostly him yelling at us and escalating in volume, ended with him waving his hand at us and saying he wasn’t going to talk to us anymore. Don’t be so easily fooled by good audio and video engineering.

  • @joshuamachado6278
    @joshuamachado6278 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The restraint cliff shows to not just blurt out, "HE DIDNT READ IT." lol

  • @aron1193
    @aron1193 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm confused as to why the student asked for a source for saying without object morality everything is relative.
    It seems to contradict itself.

    • @aron1193
      @aron1193 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Theo_Skeptomai yea my phone has that swipe text option so it doesn't always type out what I think I am and I don't proof read

    • @saintpaulofyoutube4416
      @saintpaulofyoutube4416 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Theo_Skeptomai hey Theo! I hope you and your wife are well.
      You may be the only person on here that can give a coherent opinion on this so, I'll ask.
      Is there any contradiction if a person forms a different moral assessment on the same thing at different times of the day?
      An example. Can a person find lying about his weight perfectly fine at all times except between 1 and 2:30 am?
      I guess the point is, if subjectivism is universal, wouldn't a cohesive society be impossible? Don't we have to AT LEAST have subjectivism as the thing that isn't up to the individual? And doesn't THAT make at least one thing objective and if one thing is objective, why not others?
      I hope that makes sense.

  • @NewCreationInChrist896
    @NewCreationInChrist896 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don’t have enough faith to be an atheist.
    Romans 10:9-10
    “that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation”

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t have enough faith to be a Christian
      God is omniscient. When he created the universe, he saw the sufferings which humans would endure as a result of the sin of those original humans. He heard the screams of the damned. Surely he would have known that it would have been better for those humans to never have been born (in fact, the Bible says this very thing), and surely this all-compassionate deity would have foregone the creation of a universe destined to imperfection in which many of the humans were doomed to eternal suffering. A perfectly compassionate being who creates beings which he knows are doomed to suffer is impossible.

  • @AlphaAchilles
    @AlphaAchilles ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That last guy really thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room anywhere he goes. Using a bunch of big words and terminology in an attempt to make Cliffe look stupid because he thinks he doesn’t know what the terms mean. I guarantee he’s a freshman and doesn’t have a single opinion of his own.

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah
      Following a religious book is the best way to think for yourself 😂

    • @jessebryant9233
      @jessebryant9233 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      As soon as I saw there was a comment... I knew it was Jason! Jason trolls because he can't think for himself. Challenge him with the most basic thing and he's done. But not to worry, he'll be back next week!

    • @RebeccaClemonsCW
      @RebeccaClemonsCW 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol - “Jason” is my partner and I can assure you that his name isn’t Jason.
      Hi! I’m the short one in the grey shirt. We were agitated because before this clip starts, we had been there for an hour trying to ask him a question, and he had been extremely rude to us. This audio on this clip is also edited in such a way that it doesn’t include every time he would talk over us and louder than us to interrupt and stop what we were saying. This clip also doesn’t show when he got down in my face and yelled at me. This interaction, which was mostly him yelling at us and escalating in volume, ended with him waving his hand at us and saying he wasn’t going to talk to us anymore. Don’t be so easily fooled by clips taken out of context and muting people when it’s convenient.

  • @PigletShady
    @PigletShady ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why was that one guys face blurred? At 9:20

  • @TreenighetMaranata
    @TreenighetMaranata ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The last guy had problems with his reasoning ability! ✝

    • @christianresearchproject
      @christianresearchproject ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is the same trouble maker that I saw on another video.

    • @justingary5322
      @justingary5322 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Kingdom of God is Christ's political agenda. AMEN fellow brothers and sisters in Christ our Lord and God bless Cliffe and Stuart Knechtle's family Apologetics ministry. I'm glad Cliffe addressed that Christ didn't have a political agenda like many people in the political landscape. I'm neither a DEMONCRATS AND REPUBLICANT 😂. Many Atheists, secular humanists and skeptics are very intelligent and logical but shows how dishonest their position can be in changing his standards for evidence by shifting the goalpost everytime it comes to what their standard of God's Existence being supported by evidence would be. It's obviously not the burden of proof for believers but God Himself to meet the burden of proof which He has for us Christian theists despite what Atheists claim are just unsupported claims. This has nothing to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a 23 year old Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college graduate. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't.
      I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict.
      Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers.
      Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years
      ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of but not macro or micro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word.
      Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.

    • @RebeccaClemonsCW
      @RebeccaClemonsCW 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi! I’m the short one in the grey shirt. We were agitated because before this clip starts, we had been there for an hour trying to ask him a question, and he had been extremely rude to us. This audio on this clip is also edited in such a way that it doesn’t include every time he would talk over us and louder than us to interrupt and stop what we were saying. This clip also doesn’t show when he got down in my face and yelled at me. This interaction, which was mostly him yelling at us and escalating in volume, ended with him waving his hand at us and saying he wasn’t going to talk to us anymore. Don’t be so easily fooled by good audio and video engineering.

  • @csmoviles
    @csmoviles ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could we talk how buddha left his wife and son in order to be "enlightened "? Also, that story that someone who could live up to be almost 30 , wasn't he 29 or something when he saw the sick and the old FOR THE FIRST TIME! There is so much wrong with that story , but people love to be deceived into false spirituality; since it feels sooo great to their flesh. Been there done that.

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      “If any man come to Me and hate not his father and mother, and wife and children, and brethren and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.

  • @jessebryant9233
    @jessebryant9233 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Walk through girl = Jason! 🤣

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you know skeptical jessie ?

    • @jessebryant9233
      @jessebryant9233 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasonnoble7302
      Because here you are!

  • @misterRDF
    @misterRDF ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The end was kinda hilarious :)

    • @RebeccaClemonsCW
      @RebeccaClemonsCW 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi! I’m the short one in the grey shirt. We were agitated because before this clip starts, we had been there for an hour trying to ask him a question, and he had been extremely rude to us. This audio on this clip is also edited in such a way that it doesn’t include every time he would talk over us and louder than us to interrupt and stop what we were saying. This clip also doesn’t show when he got down in my face and yelled at me. This interaction, which was mostly him yelling at us and escalating in volume, ended with him waving his hand at us and saying he wasn’t going to talk to us anymore.

    • @misterRDF
      @misterRDF 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@RebeccaClemonsCW Well, I certainly can't condone anyone yelling at you. I hope you found something interesting at the time, regardless of your beliefs. I had a little peek at your channel, keep it up, you have a talent for sure.

  • @Newlifebroadcast
    @Newlifebroadcast ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I want to talk to him he’s so awesome man

  • @Undistrucktable
    @Undistrucktable 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Talking to dishonest people must be frustrating

  • @Pudekz51790
    @Pudekz51790 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please post the whole conversation in parts.

  • @user-du6lq4wb4g
    @user-du6lq4wb4g ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was settled when they asked him should we pay taxes. He said show me a denarius. Who's image do you see on it. Cesar's. Then pay unto Cesar what is Caesar's , and unto god what is gods. Sans political agenda.

  • @JamesRichardWiley
    @JamesRichardWiley ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jesus had an agenda:
    1. The world is about to end.
    2. Worship me and obey me and no other - or else suffer eternal damnation.
    3. I will return before the end of this generation - two thousand years ago - but then I decided not to.

  • @SHADOWSCOOp2829
    @SHADOWSCOOp2829 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amen 🙏🏼

  • @ericscaillet2232
    @ericscaillet2232 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Father and son ,nice.

  • @Jordan-qd7xe
    @Jordan-qd7xe ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ohhh man why did you cut the ending short that was a good convo, dishonest on that young man's part but still a good convo.

    • @RebeccaClemonsCW
      @RebeccaClemonsCW 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi! I’m the short one in the grey shirt. We were agitated because before this clip starts, we had been there for an hour trying to ask him a question, and he had been extremely rude to us. This audio on this clip is also edited in such a way that it doesn’t include every time he would talk over us and louder than us to interrupt and stop what we were saying. This clip also doesn’t show when he got down in my face and yelled at me. This interaction, which was mostly him yelling at us and escalating in volume, ended with him waving his hand at us and saying he wasn’t going to talk to us anymore.

  • @providenceperspective
    @providenceperspective ปีที่แล้ว +2

    >“These people are good people”
    The Bible: “no one is good.”
    Now, I hear reasoning and logic, but I didn’t hear the Gospel (maybe I missed it). Nothing wrong with reasoning with people to prove that Jesus is who He says He is, but without the Gospel, that’s pointless.

    • @boltrooktwo
      @boltrooktwo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Bible has context to where it says nobody is good. People can still be good or bad on the level of people but spiritually and eternally only God is good.

    • @Sameruk
      @Sameruk ปีที่แล้ว

      i think maybe the purpose of give me an answer is for questions about christianity, that's why it's logical and reasoning, most ppl need that first before they begin to think real about the Gospel.

  • @ilovegodandjesusjohn316
    @ilovegodandjesusjohn316 ปีที่แล้ว

    Proverbs 21:12
    The righteous man wisely considereth the house of the wicked: but God overthroweth the wicked for their wickedness.

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว

      “If any man come to Me and hate not his father and mother, and wife and children, and brethren and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.

  • @lgarrai7049
    @lgarrai7049 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cliffe what are your thoughts on the Catholics form of forgiveness? Where you have to confess your sins to a Priest

  • @GizmoFromPizmo
    @GizmoFromPizmo ปีที่แล้ว

    "Who is Jesus Christ - to you - when you read the New Testament?"
    You can hear the guy rebooting... 🤣

  • @sarahknechtle5925
    @sarahknechtle5925 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    YES SIR!

  • @justingary5322
    @justingary5322 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    AMEN brothers and sisters in Christ our Lord and God bless brother Cliffe's and Stuart's Apologetics ministry as well as you ALL 🙏👊❤️. I love the questions that Cliffe addressed in this video especially about so called political agendas, prayer, Faith and globally preaching DA GOSPEL TRUTH. Atheism ain't got nothing new or better to offer than the very religious beliefs it's critical of so it's hypocrisy at it's finest 😂. Hello this is for all you Atheists, unbelievers and skeptics. I'm going to address a few misconceptions and lies about God's Character and His Word. The Bible doesn't support chattel slavery or anything else Immoral. Ok so Atheists and unbelievers say God is either Immoral, incompetent or not responsible so let's see what The Scriptures actually say. God revealed himself and created a nation in a real, historical context. It was a world with a slave-based economy, with city states often at war with each other, with polygamous marriages to ensure the continuation of family lines. The laws of the Old Testament regulate this behaviour. Slaves are to be treated humanely (Exodus 21:11). They are given rights and not seen as mere possessions. Hebrew slaves were able to buy their own freedom. Human trafficking is condemned (Exodus 21:16). In contrast to the law code of Babylon, Old Testament Israel was a light to the nations. The Old Testament law and narratives do not stand alone. Jesus is now the best example of what we read. So the moral teaching of the Bible cannot be summarised by a quote taken out of context from the Old Testament to demonize God and His Word. Slavery was permitted in Old Testament law but it was regulated by God giving the Israelites instructions on how to fairly and humanely treat their slaves (it was like indentured servitude where someone could work for you if they owed debts or needed income not cruel like chattel slavery). God allowed the people of Israel to own slaves since they themselves has already experienced over 400 years of generations of Egyptian slavery and knew how inhumane it was to be beaten, overworked and taxed so God set them apart from other nations and cultures around them by giving them a fair way to treat their slaves since slavery had already existed in the world but it doesn't mean God condoned it just used it for His Will to bring Good And in the light of the whole scriptural teaching, we find the reasons for its ultimate abolition (Ephesians 6:9; Colossians 4:1-3; Philemon 15-16 and Galatians 3:28). The Word of God provided the moral standard against slavery in the Roman Empire and against the slave trade in the New World.
    But what of genocide or holy war in the book of Joshua? Several things could be pointed out. The use of warfare in the ancient world did not always mean literal total destruction, even when events are described in such terms. Furthermore, the book of Joshua does not describe a genocide. It is not a race who are being wiped out, as in genocide, but a religious practice which was often appalling and degrading. Those who repent (like Rahab from Jericho or Ruth) are not destroyed but become part of Israel. It is not the racial group that is in view but their "detestable practices".
    However, after all is said, we must still acknowledge that God brought judgment on the nations of Canaan. It is not our place as believers isn't to sugar-coat the Bible. For some skeptics, this is enough to make God a moral monster. But the fact is that Jesus continued to affirm that God is a Judge who will bring a future judgment on all peoples and all nations. God’s judgment will be just. The list of Old Testament stories rejected by critics often leads to a similar dismissal of the New Testament teaching of Jesus on the existence of hell.
    After all, what was the Flood of Genesis or the conquest of Joshua if not a glimpse of future judgment? Hell does not demonstrate cruelty on God’s part, but it does demonstrate His Holiness and our moral accountability. Perhaps this is the real reason many people rail against the God of the Bible? It is not that they think He is a moral monster, but that they are afraid He is a moral Judge, and that has implications for our behaviour now. God is an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being and we as His creatures have Eternal souls and spirits so the punishment for our sins against Him must therefore also be Eternal but so must the reward for righteousness that's why He sent His Son Jesus to live a perfectly righteous and sinless Life (which none of us could ever possibly expect to do) suffer the humiliating and torturous death of crucifixion to shed His Own Blood willingly so that all who willingly accept His gift of salvation by grace through faith in Him will be saved and given Eternal life because that's what God wants is for us to willingly accept His gift of salvation and choose life. Exodus 21:20-21 literally speaks about capital punishment befalling anyone who mistreats their slaves so yes people are taking Scripture out of context to demonize God who literally promises that slaves who are mistreated under someone else's authority is to be avenged. When we hear the word “slavery” we think of innocent human beings, kept prisoner for life, having no rights under law and so reduced to animals. This is clearly immoral because it is unjust: the slave has done nothing to deserve the treatment.
    The situation described as “slavery” in the Bible was nothing like this. It is more accurately described as one of indentured servitude. Many “slaves” were indentured servants, working for a term of years
    Some other “slaves” were prisoners. There were no prisons. Prisoners had to work to live like everyone else. Some had life sentences. Some served a term and were released.
    People didn't beat their good slaves but treated them well and protected their assets thus.
    But no matter how rebellious a slave was, you couldn't just beat them to death. And if you knocked out their tooth or damaged their eye then you had to set them free. (Exodus 21:26). God wasn't using what other nations did because He wanted to set His Chosen People of Israel apart from the cruel, inhumane and unjust systems other cultures had so He gave them a fair way to treat their slaves and servants.
    There is a lot of ignorance on this topic which is understandable given the age we live in but it's not the nefarious set up we think of when we think of modern slavery. The question Atheists must ask themselves is how come the Jews aren't being accused of slavery and human trafficking if they're guilty of it in The Bible and why would white slave owners rip out pages from The Old and New Testament Scriptures to justify their owning blacks as slaves if The Bible already justified slavery?

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Justin Dodger
      Are you still denying and calling Moses a liar
      when he said sorcerers exist ?
      Exodus
      10 So Moses and Aaron went to Pharaoh
      and did just as the Lord commanded. Aaron
      threw his staff down in front of Pharaoh and
      his officials, and it became a snake. 11
      Pharaoh then summoned wise men and
      sorcerers, and the Egyptian magicians also
      did the same things by their secret arts: 12
      Each one threw down his staff and it
      became a snake. But Aaron's staff
      swallowed up their staffs.

  • @curiousgeorge555
    @curiousgeorge555 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    amen

  • @passionfly1
    @passionfly1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Who is your source" is a very weak question for people who need Google to try and refute anything said to them. When someone asks you this question they are already looking for help to support their weak foundation so they can Google this 'source' and try and refute a worldview they disagree with eventually.

  • @justingary5322
    @justingary5322 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the question that Cliffe addressed in this video especially about assessing evidence, prayer, Faith and globally preaching DA GOSPEL TRUTH. Atheism ain't got nothing new or better to offer than the very religious beliefs it's critical of so it's hypocrisy at it's finest 😂. Hello this is for all you Atheists, unbelievers and skeptics. I'm going to address a few misconceptions and lies about God's Character and His Word. The Bible doesn't support chattel slavery or anything else Immoral. Ok so Atheists and unbelievers say God is either Immoral, incompetent or not responsible so let's see what The Scriptures actually say. God revealed himself and created a nation in a real, historical context. It was a world with a slave-based economy, with city states often at war with each other, with polygamous marriages to ensure the continuation of family lines. The laws of the Old Testament regulate this behaviour. Slaves are to be treated humanely (Exodus 21:11). They are given rights and not seen as mere possessions. Hebrew slaves were able to buy their own freedom. Human trafficking is condemned (Exodus 21:16). In contrast to the law code of Babylon, Old Testament Israel was a light to the nations. The Old Testament law and narratives do not stand alone. Jesus is now the best example of what we read. So the moral teaching of the Bible cannot be summarised by a quote taken out of context from the Old Testament to demonize God and His Word. Slavery was permitted in Old Testament law but it was regulated by God giving the Israelites instructions on how to fairly and humanely treat their slaves (it was like indentured servitude where someone could work for you if they owed debts or needed income not cruel like chattel slavery). God allowed the people of Israel to own slaves since they themselves has already experienced over 400 years of generations of Egyptian slavery and knew how inhumane it was to be beaten, overworked and taxed so God set them apart from other nations and cultures around them by giving them a fair way to treat their slaves since slavery had already existed in the world but it doesn't mean God condoned it just used it for His Will to bring Good And in the light of the whole scriptural teaching, we find the reasons for its ultimate abolition (Ephesians 6:9; Colossians 4:1-3; Philemon 15-16 and Galatians 3:28). The Word of God provided the moral standard against slavery in the Roman Empire and against the slave trade in the New World.
    But what of genocide or holy war in the book of Joshua? Several things could be pointed out. The use of warfare in the ancient world did not always mean literal total destruction, even when events are described in such terms. Furthermore, the book of Joshua does not describe a genocide. It is not a race who are being wiped out, as in genocide, but a religious practice which was often appalling and degrading. Those who repent (like Rahab from Jericho or Ruth) are not destroyed but become part of Israel. It is not the racial group that is in view but their "detestable practices".
    However, after all is said, we must still acknowledge that God brought judgment on the nations of Canaan. It is not our place as believers isn't to sugar-coat the Bible. For some skeptics, this is enough to make God a moral monster. But the fact is that Jesus continued to affirm that God is a Judge who will bring a future judgment on all peoples and all nations. God’s judgment will be just. The list of Old Testament stories rejected by critics often leads to a similar dismissal of the New Testament teaching of Jesus on the existence of hell.
    After all, what was the Flood of Genesis or the conquest of Joshua if not a glimpse of future judgment? Hell does not demonstrate cruelty on God’s part, but it does demonstrate His Holiness and our moral accountability. Perhaps this is the real reason many people rail against the God of the Bible? It is not that they think He is a moral monster, but that they are afraid He is a moral Judge, and that has implications for our behaviour now. God is an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being and we as His creatures have Eternal souls and spirits so the punishment for our sins against Him must therefore also be Eternal but so must the reward for righteousness that's why He sent His Son Jesus to live a perfectly righteous and sinless Life (which none of us could ever possibly expect to do) suffer the humiliating and torturous death of crucifixion to shed His Own Blood willingly so that all who willingly accept His gift of salvation by grace through faith in Him will be saved and given Eternal life because that's what God wants is for us to willingly accept His gift of salvation and choose life. Exodus 21:20-21 literally speaks about capital punishment befalling anyone who mistreats their slaves so yes people are taking Scripture out of context to demonize God who literally promises that slaves who are mistreated under someone else's authority is to be avenged. When we hear the word “slavery” we think of innocent human beings, kept prisoner for life, having no rights under law and so reduced to animals. This is clearly immoral because it is unjust: the slave has done nothing to deserve the treatment.
    The situation described as “slavery” in the Bible was nothing like this. It is more accurately described as one of indentured servitude. Many “slaves” were indentured servants, working for a term of years
    Some other “slaves” were prisoners. There were no prisons. Prisoners had to work to live like everyone else. Some had life sentences. Some served a term and were released.
    People didn't beat their good slaves but treated them well and protected their assets thus.
    But no matter how rebellious a slave was, you couldn't just beat them to death. And if you knocked out their tooth or damaged their eye then you had to set them free. (Exodus 21:26). God wasn't using what other nations did because He wanted to set His Chosen People of Israel apart from the cruel, inhumane and unjust systems other cultures had so He gave them a fair way to treat their slaves and servants.
    There is a lot of ignorance on this topic which is understandable given the age we live in but it's not the nefarious set up we think of when we think of modern slavery. The question Atheists must ask themselves is how come the Jews aren't being accused of slavery and human trafficking if they're guilty of it in The Bible and why would white slave owners rip out pages from The Old and New Testament Scriptures to justify their owning blacks as slaves if The Bible already justified slavery?

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why ? You don’t answer questions about your claims either 😂
      Hey Justin Dodger
      Are you still denying and calling Moses a liar
      when he said sorcerers exist ?
      Exodus
      10 So Moses and Aaron went to Pharaoh
      and did just as the Lord commanded. Aaron
      threw his staff down in front of Pharaoh and
      his officials, and it became a snake. 11
      Pharaoh then summoned wise men and
      sorcerers, and the Egyptian magicians also
      did the same things by their secret arts: 12
      Each one threw down his staff and it
      became a snake. But Aaron's staff
      swallowed up their staffs.

  • @kathleenwharton2139
    @kathleenwharton2139 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jesus Said..”Render unto Caesar that which is Ceasars.” Jesus did Not involve HimSelf with politics..other than Healing the soldiers ear Peter cut off. 😊❤

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว

      John 2:15
      New International Version
      15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables.

  • @user-ld3si9iy6s
    @user-ld3si9iy6s 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The last guys brain was leaking out of his ears while trying to recite everything he had just heard in philosophy 101 without being able to live out a SINGLE thing he was saying

  • @7enty7en83
    @7enty7en83 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Last dude needs to chill out

  • @mevangel9898
    @mevangel9898 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The last questioner is the definition of intellectually foolish: he denies the existence of absolute-relative dichotomy which is philosophy 101, and asks for a "source"! The irony of the exhortation to ignore the Christian absolutist by recommending reading and accepting as absolute the works of another, whilst also arguing for plurality and his own personal absolute morals. One massive confusion.

    • @RebeccaClemonsCW
      @RebeccaClemonsCW 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi! I’m the short one in the grey shirt. We were agitated because before this clip starts, we had been there for an hour trying to ask him a question, and he had been extremely rude to us. This audio on this clip is also edited in such a way that it doesn’t include every time he would talk over us and louder than us to interrupt and stop what we were saying. This clip also doesn’t show when he got down in my face and yelled at me. This interaction, which was mostly him yelling at us and escalating in volume, ended with him waving his hand at us and saying he wasn’t going to talk to us anymore. Don’t be so easily fooled by audio engineering and muting people who you don’t want your audience to be able to hear.

  • @jessebryant9233
    @jessebryant9233 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Blue shirt = Bonnie.

    • @saintpaulofyoutube4416
      @saintpaulofyoutube4416 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep... it's funny how anything is better than the one thing that actually makes sense.

    • @jessebryant9233
      @jessebryant9233 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@saintpaulofyoutube4416
      Which takes us back to Bonnie = Talkative from Pilgrim's Progress.

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@saintpaulofyoutube4416
      Yep
      “Randomness is the opposite of order “?
      Totally makes sense if you don’t understand physics

    • @saintpaulofyoutube4416
      @saintpaulofyoutube4416 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jessebryant9233 yes. Just keep yapping until someone yaps back.

    • @saintpaulofyoutube4416
      @saintpaulofyoutube4416 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasonnoble7302 I'm sorry... what now?

  • @Tatteredghost96
    @Tatteredghost96 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And that last clown is whats wrong with the world today

  • @justingary5322
    @justingary5322 ปีที่แล้ว

    AMEN fellow brothers and sisters in Christ our Lord and God bless Cliffe and Stuart Knechtle's family Apologetics ministry. I'm glad Cliffe addressed that Christ didn't have a political agenda like many people in the political landscape. I'm neither a DEMONCRATS AND REPUBLICANT 😂. Many Atheists, secular humanists and skeptics are very intelligent and logical but shows how dishonest their position can be in changing his standards for evidence by shifting the goalpost everytime it comes to what their standard of God's Existence being supported by evidence would be. It's obviously not the burden of proof for believers but God Himself to meet the burden of proof which He has for us Christian theists despite what Atheists claim are just unsupported claims. This has nothing to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a 23 year old Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college graduate. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't.
    I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict.
    Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers.
    Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years
    ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of but not macro or micro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word.
    Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.

  • @aidanlarson5394
    @aidanlarson5394 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Oh man..."

  • @powerfulcoconut757
    @powerfulcoconut757 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I want to ask Cliffe some questions 😩 I am a Christian but I haven’t heard him answer some questions I struggle with as a believer…

    • @jessebryant9233
      @jessebryant9233 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Look him up.

    • @michaelmccurdy5964
      @michaelmccurdy5964 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Others can help to, as long as their answer is truly biblical. Cliffe is a great speaker, but he’s not the only. So ask away!

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just ask us we have the answers 👍

    • @billyholly
      @billyholly ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Go ahead and ask, Coconut, and several will TRY right here. Jason is not a believer, btw. Keep in mind that all struggle. We will get "perfect" answers "when we get there."

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@billyholly is a skeptical theist
      He doesn’t know if his god is good

  • @memelordgiorno7711
    @memelordgiorno7711 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think its funny that dude said he couldnt summarize a 700 page book but cliffe can do a 1000 + page book easy

  • @user-df2ml4ro9v
    @user-df2ml4ro9v 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mark 7:20-23 & Mark 10:17-27,

  • @fellygoh
    @fellygoh ปีที่แล้ว

    The guy in blue LMAO these people are so eager to proof their point. Why are they so worked up when Cliffe speaks the truth. These videos are so entertaining. Kudos for their patience to explain things to the secular world. ❤

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because Cliff isn’t talking normative truth his is a fucked up version of what truth is ❤

    • @RebeccaClemonsCW
      @RebeccaClemonsCW 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi! I’m the short one in the grey shirt. We were agitated because before this clip starts, we had been there for an hour trying to ask him a question, and he had been extremely rude to us. This audio on this clip is also edited in such a way that it doesn’t include every time he would talk over us and louder than us to interrupt and stop what we were saying. This clip also doesn’t show when he got down in my face and yelled at me. We weren’t “eager to prove our point”. We were trying to have a chance speak without being interrupted.

    • @stoopidhaters
      @stoopidhaters 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@RebeccaClemonsCWThere were quite alot of people in the crowd, perhaps you know some of them and they can be your witness. Maybe someone recorded the incident of Cliff getting into your face.
      Also your time is just as valuable as anyone else's including Cliffe's and Stuart's so unfortunately not everyone can have their questions answered.
      God Bless you.

  • @BobDobalena
    @BobDobalena 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow Neil Degrasse Tyson currently has an ad campaign being played in Christian videos for his government sponsored scientism. I never thought America would get this weird.

  • @ilovegodandjesusjohn316
    @ilovegodandjesusjohn316 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    John 6:47
    Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว

      Families will be torn apart because of Jesus. “Brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.” (Matthew 10:21)

    • @elpibe1924
      @elpibe1924 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@jasonnoble7302 Yes, there will be those who deny Him and those who accept Him.

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elpibe1924
      God fails those who deny him
      Gods a failure

    • @elpibe1924
      @elpibe1924 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasonnoble7302 How does God fail them?

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elpibe1924
      By his creation

  • @saintpaulofyoutube4416
    @saintpaulofyoutube4416 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Of course Jesus had a political agenda. Not the politics of the 21st century but politics in its most basic form.
    In its most basic form, politics is the mechanism by which humans negotiate how we're going to live together.
    Jesus taught in his ministry how to do that.
    Whether you agree with him or not is irrelevant.

    • @boltrooktwo
      @boltrooktwo ปีที่แล้ว

      It matters in what context you are saying their agreement is irrelevant. It has a very relevant effect on a person’s life to have a grasp on meaning, value, and purpose. Someone can’t develop moral character if they don’t believe in objective morality. The reality is Jesus Christ taught things that are accurate to human nature, rules that you can’t really break. What really happens is people can choose to break themselves against those rules, to harm their moral character and rational thinking, but those rules will not be broken.

    • @saintpaulofyoutube4416
      @saintpaulofyoutube4416 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@boltrooktwo I'm only referring to the fact that Jesus taught how we're supposed to live in his ministry.
      We're still expected to follow his instruction. And we're expected to do it whether we agree or not.
      This is what I meant by it being irrelevant if we agree or not.

    • @cameroneagle4370
      @cameroneagle4370 ปีที่แล้ว

      well its very clear that jesus wasnt a modern day liberal .

  • @AlphaAchilles
    @AlphaAchilles ปีที่แล้ว

    “How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it? There has never been a greater deed; and whoever is born after us -- for the sake of this deed he will belong to a higher history than all history hitherto." God is dead and WE have killed him.

  • @kumabear3439
    @kumabear3439 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who's the beautiful girl that walks through the scene at 26:50? What a free butterfly.

  • @cubofjudah_
    @cubofjudah_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ✝️📖🙏🏻

  • @michaelanthonyortegaherrer348
    @michaelanthonyortegaherrer348 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cliff you need to talk bout the sabbath day

  • @tekbluesome8957
    @tekbluesome8957 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    stuart is absolutely wrong 20:29 when he says God uses evolution Theistic Evolution is NOT Biblical you either believe in Creation OR Evolution they do not mix, people that believe & say this are essentially calling God a Liar sorry but both Cliff & Stuart need to be called out on this issue as they are leading so many people astray with this compromise of Biblical truths

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว

      You don’t think they have a butt load of apologetics for evolution and Christianity compatibility ?
      Their going to dance and sing and make some fun justifications

    • @tekbluesome8957
      @tekbluesome8957 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasonnoble7302 its simple the Bible never once infers any ideas about evolution it is a man made idea imposed into what creation never says, ergo people that think this are calling God a Liar

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tekbluesome8957
      What method did God use to create humans and everything ?

    • @tekbluesome8957
      @tekbluesome8957 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jasonnoble7302 Just start from Gen 1:1 pretty simple really FYI the Bible is NOT a science book

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tekbluesome8957
      I’ve read my bible and I’ve been around
      I’m not new and I’ve yet to find this answer
      We have to know the method the Christian God used in order to deny every single aspect of evolution. Some evolution might be right some or all might be wrong. But we need to know Gods method of creating to completely rule evolution out.
      What method did God use to create humans and everything ?

  • @bonnie43uk
    @bonnie43uk ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Good morning from England 🙂Cliffe asks a great question at about 5 mins .."How do you read the New Testament" to me, it reads as a story, there are plenty of clues in there in the writing style and the words used. It's a great story, they even made a Hollywood film about it in the 1965"The greatest story ever told" starring Charlton Heston .. great movie.

    • @giauscaesar8047
      @giauscaesar8047 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes I think you may spend to much time in front of the TV. Why not go out for a walk or perhaps read a book ?

    • @robmc120
      @robmc120 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      "to me, it reads as a story"
      Yeah bc it reads as HIStory, as in actual occurrences in objective reality.
      May the triune, infallible, omniscient God bless you with faith in Him, not fallible man’s limited knowledge of theories (Ephesians 2:8 & Merriam-Webster, "belief , trust in & loyalty to God”)!

    • @bonnie43uk
      @bonnie43uk ปีที่แล้ว

      @@giauscaesar8047 i spend minimal time watching tv Giaus, as you know, during the day I'm taking patients to hospital and engaging with them, listening to their life stories is humbling at times. I also enjoy chatting with people on here who have a different opinion to me, it's good to hear different views that challenge your own views, it makes the brain think. My walking ability is not as good as it was, i suffer with arthritic pain in my knee joints, but i live in an incredibly beautiful part of England and when I'm driving I love enjoying the countryside and turning up my music.. Finlandia by Sibelius is a great piece of music to listen to while taking in breath-taking sunrises in the morning. I have thousands of tunes on my spotify playlist.

    • @bonnie43uk
      @bonnie43uk ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robmc120 supernatural miracles are actual objective reality? how do you prove that Rob?

    • @robmc120
      @robmc120 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bonnie43uk "supernatural miracles are actual objective reality? how do you prove that"
      By the triune God of the Holy Bible, all Christians objective foundation that is SUPERNATURALLY prophetic, historically verified & morally objective, you knew the answer i was going to give, why do you continue to ask?

  • @SevenOh7o
    @SevenOh7o ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What happened to the video yesterday? Why was it taken down??

    • @jasonnoble7302
      @jasonnoble7302 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jesus didn’t like it 😂

    • @SevenOh7o
      @SevenOh7o ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasonnoble7302 Good one!

  • @justsomeguy9452
    @justsomeguy9452 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow from 24 minutes 😂😂😂

  • @gospeltrax2513
    @gospeltrax2513 ปีที่แล้ว

    There are tangible scientific proofs (that God has left us) so that "no one is without excuse" - everyone must believe in Jesus, as it is written. So, for those who say "show me something outside of the Bible"...I would point out these 3 scientific proofs of God - that God Himself has placed here for us, so that everyone has a fair chance to "believe" in Jesus.
    1) Creation itself: Many scientists have studied creation and come to the conclusion (by looking at DNA, the impossibility of life forming by accident, the complexity and delicate perfection of our Universe) that it is mathematically 100% guaranteed that some all-knowing, all-wise Creator MUST HAVE created this world we live in - it could not have happened "by chance". Scientists such as Sir Isaac Newton fully understood this, and He also believed in Jesus as the Creator. 2) The Great Pyramid in Egypt is a stone symbol of the Bible [Isaiah 19:19 and other verses]. No one can explain how it was built, but we know WHY it was built. It was built as a testimony to God Himself - proof that God exists. There were 144,000 casing stones covering the Great Pyramid. It was not built by the Egyptians. The New Jerusalem that comes down from Heaven in the Book of Revelation is pyramid-shaped. 3) Perhaps the greatest "Silent Witness" of them all is the Shroud of Turin - the burial cloth of Jesus. Scientists have authenticated it and it is proof (forensic scientific proof) that Jesus rose from the dead, because His photographic (holographic) image is burned into the cloth - and it is a photographic negative, proving that it cannot be a fake. It has been dated to be 2000 years old and His blood stains are still on the cloth. Also, there is a matching "head cloth" (called the Sudarium of Oviedo) which is in Spain, which proves that these 2 cloths once covered the body of Jesus while He lay in his tomb. These artifacts are solid proof of the validity of the Bible account of Jesus dying on the cross and rising from the dead - our only Hope of Salvation. P.S. When people doubt Jesus "the Man" - please remind them that He was no ordinary "Man" - that He was born of a virgin. No one else in all of human history can make this claim. He appeared as a "Man" but He was "God Himself" come in the flesh through the virgin Mary. [John chapter 1, Isaiah 7:14, Like 1:26]

    • @JonnyHalfton
      @JonnyHalfton ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Theo_Skeptomai how’s the nuggets ?

  • @NazSBG
    @NazSBG ปีที่แล้ว

    Jesus had a spiritual agenda. He came not to deal with political or social issues but sin issues. People living in the flesh rather than in the spirit.

  • @FMFDoc
    @FMFDoc ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish they would have kept going with that last guy. Definitely wanted to see how that ended.

    • @RebeccaClemonsCW
      @RebeccaClemonsCW 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi! I’m the short one in the grey shirt. We were agitated because before this clip starts, we had been there for an hour trying to ask him a question, and he had been extremely rude to us. This audio on this clip is also edited in such a way that it doesn’t include every time he would talk over us and louder than us to interrupt and stop what we were saying. This clip also doesn’t show when he got down in my face and yelled at me. This interaction, which was mostly him yelling at us and escalating in volume, ended with him waving his hand at us and saying he wasn’t going to talk to us anymore.

    • @isolatefn3914
      @isolatefn3914 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RebeccaClemonsCW You just copy pasting this on every comment huh lmao. I'm not Christian or religious so don't lump me in with their beliefs but the guy in the blue you were standing next too was quite the annoying cunt, sitting there shaking as hard as he could just to get his point across. It was a loud environment anyway, sorry you cant handle someone raising their voice.

  • @kengreene5212
    @kengreene5212 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    👍👍👍

  • @denzel2x7
    @denzel2x7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Come to TSU plz

  • @tailisebetancourt9705
    @tailisebetancourt9705 ปีที่แล้ว

    So nice to listen this type of conversation, but something was weird... Evolution and Bible do not match, the Bible never, never gives a opening thought to understand that we evolved through millions of years.

  • @JonnyHalfton
    @JonnyHalfton ปีที่แล้ว

    that last guy definitely sniffs his dogs farts

  • @mauricebashir2603
    @mauricebashir2603 ปีที่แล้ว

    God may bless u all.

  • @keepthechange2811
    @keepthechange2811 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So what if we found out the bible is literally true. Historically accurate and true

  • @darthemperk2625
    @darthemperk2625 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The guy with the purple hat and blue shirt man... He was in another video, I remember him, idk wich one was first, but in both he's really immature.
    I mean, I could see he was with someone else in this one making fun of Cliff and Stuart, they were in the background while he talked with the previous guy.
    There's no need to be that smug and disrespectful

  • @robinsonnait4252
    @robinsonnait4252 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    26:49 tell me what she doing?

  • @isaiahbaez9185
    @isaiahbaez9185 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there like full episodes or something

  • @johnnygallardo76
    @johnnygallardo76 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    audio out of sync

  • @leendom2028
    @leendom2028 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Should we say Satan has a political agenda😁 JESUS CHRIST Comes because To love and save us! And someday to be with HIM forever in
    1 tesalonians 4:17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.

  • @Alt-di4ft
    @Alt-di4ft 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hear O’ Israel the Lord Our God is One and Thou shalt love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength and love your neighbor’s as yourself.

  • @emx111
    @emx111 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really like the work you are doing, Jesus is the most important truly, but I don't understand how can you not keep the sabbath even though you know so much? I looked for new church website and I saw that you gather on sunday as holy day of God. It sincerely doesn't make sense to me at all that you don't understand what the sabbath is.

  • @christophersecreto5686
    @christophersecreto5686 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Girl in the green vest is really cute

  • @haydenshores9943
    @haydenshores9943 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That guy really did not want to be intellectually honest said read the book because he didn't want you to come bat it right then and there