I tend to run my calibrations first and then use the SPL meter to get the 75 level. it works well as a workflow as the distances/delays from each speaker are handled in the calibration, as is the majority of the EQing, and then i just fine through the output level.
I wish you got more views and likes man you seem to know exactly what you are talking about and you helped clear up ALOT of confusion/problems i was having. ty
@therafcave thank you so much, I have the same speaker setup as you and subwoofers, I have been trying to calibrate my system for over one year and I tried your settings and wow! I can’t believe what I was missing, love you bro no homo.
I tend to agree with this as I am running the Audyssey pro kit and do not mess with levels after auto cal. As far as Crossovers go then I will switch to 80hz. I keep my speakers on small. If I need volume then I turn it up on my processor. My dedicated room is on the biggish side so -15 is a good level for me and the family when watching a movie. I have other presets stored for different types of listening. This is a good video with great advice. Personally I have never needed an spl meter.I have tried using one and I found that it raised the volume on my system and I found that I kept turning it down.
Even after running auto calibration, you should still use the SPL meter to check what your system has done. I find that Audyssey sets the levels of the surrounds too low and tames the subwoofer too much so I stopped using it. Most run their surrounds and subs a few DB higher than the mains to give a more immersive sound field. With that being said, you are correct....to each is own and you need to do it by trial and error until you get your system to a point you are enjoying every minute of it. Keep up the great work....love your content bro !!!!
Brian TV That’s what I say. I bring up my center channel +3 dB. My front heights +4 And my subs 85db They trim to much. I also run heavy on dynamic settings/ reference. Etc. For some reason my dynamic settings turn themselves off once in a while. Larry
Good video and good info. I was just gifted a Marantz SR6008 and am going through the room setup now. Btw, 'levels' in your title doesn't need an apostrophe. It's plural, not possessive.
My feeling about the "large/small" argument is; do i want to hear those frequencies from my 50 watt receiver, or my 325/800 watt subwoofer. Guess which one. I do use LFE + Main, Marantz calls for this setting to be used. Without that being set, the only frequencies sent to the SUB are the .1 channel, accounting for about 10% of a movie soundtrack. LFE + Main does not send low frequencies to your front speakers, as some people believe. It sends front channel low frequencies to the Sub + the LFE.
Why do I always see levels in the minus level? If I do minus I can barley hear my speakers. I dont have an amp and my reciever is 90 watts per channel. I keep mine at positive 5 and 7s.
Do you have a power app attached to your receiver? I have a Marantz SR7015 3 front speakers, 2 svs subs, a set of front height and rear height speakers along with 2 rear speaker. do I need a power app to power this setup? What power app would you recommend?
@JohnNicol-t5h Yes, I have a 5 channel amp and a 8 channel amp connected. Yes separate amp Is very recommended for better sound. Emotiva or Outlaw amp Is good.
I just used the app on Android as my meter. I just need to adjust my center speaker and rear speakers to small, and 2 front speakers to large. Thanks for the info.
I know this is an old video but I would never set my main speakers to "large" UNLESS I wasn't using a subwoofer. 10" speakers are not going to reproduce sub-sonic frequencies but will be damaged trying to reproduce it. Subwoofers are designed for ultra-low frequencies.
Setting my fronts to large just means I'm not sending the original bass Information designated for the fronts to the sub. But yes the majority Is set to small.
Good. I m using yamaha HTR 3072 AVR with Yamaha Bookshelf n Sw speakers. My confusion abt Master Value on AVR while setting DB level with SPL. If i set it on 0 than there r no effects on SPL. I have to Set it between 65 to 70. In beginning what DB level should set for all speakers. I m setting all (-) 10 individual speakers than i m incresing.
thank u for video bro. my receiver is Denon X2400. mine is small room. after setting up the audyssey calibration, all negatives values were set for levels. but with this, I hav experienced low sounds so I had to crank up the volume on my receiver (over 70%) to hear decent sounds. Thats why I have increased the levels to all positives like +2 or +3 and then I heard decent sounds. appreciate any tips for my issue? TiA 😊
I ran the Audyssey on my Denon. All the levels were set to + instead of - and I heard that creates clipping which damages the speakers. There are so many conflicting reports on that.
Thank You So much for this.I just ran Ypao and for the first time trusted what Yamaha settings. It put my Center channel crossover at 120HZ. which I always changed and I always used to self calibrate after Ypao and boy have I been missing the boat.Leaving just what Yamaha set up has blown me away.My center sounds amazing and I was about to get rid of it!! Never heard my system sound so good.
@matt giunta Hi friend, I've just bought a Yamaha RX-V683. My mother language isn't English but Spanish from Spain and I've couldn't understand rightly what you've meant in your comment. Do you mean you ran the YPAO test and nothing else? Did you trust in that automatic configuration? Could you explain it with more formal English? Thanks in advance. I found a trick to set the presence speakers. adjusting the Db of the gain of the speakers to 2 or 3 Db more I have noticed a remarkable change. My presence speakers are of the kind "upfiring" I've put them over my two front speakers.
Yes I trusted the YPAO test and whatever it set the speakers to I kept and did nothing else. Before this I always used a sound pressure meter to check what YPAO test gave me and I always changed things. This time I did not do this and the sound is the best I have ever heard.
@@mattgiunt Thanks a lot!. BTW! When I spoke about "gain" I was talking about the option "Parametric EQ". I set that with 2-3 Db more. I've read that in a youtube video for the Atmos-enabled speakers of the type "upfiring".
When Audyssy sets all of those "for me" I have to turn up the AVR SR5015 to near 60 to get enough sound out of it. Crutchfield said something is off. I shouldn't ever have to turn it up past 55. Ughhhh. So, I had to go in and change all of those to + plus whatever to make them louder. Not liking Marantz with my B&W speakers. I have a 5.2 setup.
0:43 I'm sorry, but there is no debate. If you want to set up bass management correctly (and precisely) in a small room, you don't set your fronts full range. *facepalm*.
When I tried to keep my Sony BDVE3200 volume on zero and tried to caliberate no sound came for the speaker that SPL meter can catch. What to do in this case?
Dear I m using Yamaha HTR 3072 AVR with Yamaha high end Bookshelf speakers with Yamaha NSP 300 subwoofer. My flat area is 130sq feet. I m not happy with YAPO only speaker distance is ok. Pl tell me what Master Volume I should set on AVR while using SPL meter for setting DB Level. In my AVR MV start from 1 to 100. If I changed in to DB than volume is vice-versa. If I set MV 0 than there is no sound in case of MV 1 to 100. I have to set MV between 60 to 65. If I changed to DB and set MV to 0 than it is very loud n I have to set speaker DB level in minus may more than -10. Max limit is -10. So I m confused. I have SPl physical meter. So pl reply and guide me.
In the case where you have a theater room with six seats when the Odyssey asked for the 2nd and 3rd seat locations where do you put it after the middle of the room?
I set my volume to zero on the amp master volume n couldn't hear the white noise. I don't understand what you mean by setting volume to zero. Sorry I'm new to this
If i set my 2 fronts to - 1.5 I cant hear them. I would have to push the volume up to 25 to watch the news. I set them to + 7 and I'm good. Am I doing this wrong? Should I have to put my volume up to 25 just to hear the news on a negative speaker level? The negative numbers dont make sense to me. Do setting the speaker levels higher and using less volume strain the receiver?
Re check your wiring. I use relative volume so my volume Is always negative. You could try to recalibrate? But I don't use the positive volume reading. That's to weird for me. 🤷🏽♂️😉
I performed calibration with Klipsch 7.1.2 and Onkyo tx-nr7100 9.2, but my Central Speaker with the Dolby Atoms setting is silent but the front sound is coming from the side front speakers. I can only hear the central channel when I switch the setting to 'All channel stereo'
What you're calling bass is not actually bass. It's subwoofer. Bass is a guitar. Subwoofer is way lower than bass sound pitch. You need to listen to music instruments to calibrate your system.
He thinks his 10 inch speakers in the mains are large. My front mains are Infinity SM-152 with 15 inch speakers. They can shake my AV room with no problem. No need for a subwoofer. I bought them a few decades ago at Best Buy for about 600 Dollars. They are made from walnut and measure 40"X 18"X 13" and are heavy as hell.
I need help. I have Klipsch r52c and R620F for L eft and Right and R51m’s for surround. Dialog is very hard to make out what there saying it’s really annoying I’ve run auddeseyy multiple times, moved speakers in different positions and it hasn’t improved at all. Idk if my settings are right or if im doing something wrong
@@TheRafcave I’ve replaced my speaker wire in the center channel and checked all the other speakers and made sure they were in the right terminals. I’ve been messing with it for like 2 months and really thinks of going back to a soundbar
@@PhillyDjHook I had a klipsch r34c then I switched it with an klipsch r52 and dialog was very hard to understand I also went from a Sony receiver to a denon one but still no difference. So I actually returned all my speakers and got a Sonos arc sound bar with their wireless surrounds and although they don’t sound as nice as having real speakers dialog is a little better. I honestly think it’s my hearing because when Black Widow came out in theaters dialog was so hard to understand at the theater so I think it’s just me
hey man i hope you doing well! i have a question because you say if you have auto calibration (my case is marantz) leave it that way but in your other video of crossover’s you say i’m gonna put on 40hz to not push too hard the speakers (example: your front klipsch). So my center frequency response is 81hz-21khz and my auto calibration put my center to 40hz. It’s that okay or i need to put on 100hz? to not push too hard the speaker. Please help me and sorry for my english i try my best i hope you can understand me
Hi.just joined.. Needed your advise. I have an onkyo r558 5.1.. I love watching movies and getting the matrix effect ,black hawk down,behind enemy lines How many decibels should I set speakers at to get that effect? My room size is 20Lx10.10Wx10H feet. My samsung 46inch has front,left speakers on each lower side and center speaker above it Front r and l and subwoofer13feet Center speaker is above the tv from sweet spot.. Surround R and L 5ft away from sweet spot . To get that surround effect and yet clearly hear dialogues what should be my sound setting. I have audessy setup but it sets decibels at vey low and r really doesn't capture the subwoofer .. What do you suggest to get that movie like surround and yet clear dialogues
Hey, I've got a problem & maybe someone can help? I have a Denon AVR S740H & I just bought a subwoofer & polk audio (Elite ES35) Center speaker. I've ran the calibration mic that comes with the Denon. Everything was detected, but no sounds is coming-off the center speaker at all!! The amp sees it, but doesn't send any power to it from what I can tell. I have medium sized front speakers (France made Focal Chorus V). The amp reacts as if the 2 front speakers+woofer are enough and ignores the center completely. How do I fix this? As it is, it's great for music (Metal head type of music) but for PS5 games & DVD movies, I'd like the Human voices to shine through the center speaker and it just doesn't play anything.
@@TheRafcave Hi! Thanks for responding. What I did was letting the Denon/Marantz' software install the speakers by itself instead of assigning manually 1st and it automatically categorized my front speakers (Focal Chorus 8 Ohms) as large instead of small. Then, I re-ran the calibration mic. Now, the Center speaker works, but it isn't perfect. Both the subwoofer & the Center speaker are too quiet, meaning that the front speakers are still assigned the brunt of the amp's power. Because my speakers are old school (not Dolby Atmos nor surround), I think I'll need a Decibel meter to balance all of them correctly. I'll look for the technique to do that. Amp's volume set point+ Db measurement at the speakers' cones. I spent the whole day yesterday trying to understand that amp. The CD player is plugged into the cable audio sockets for it to work (that's crazy, but here we are) Denon are great, but complicated tech. Gone are the days when I plugged-in my speakers on a Yamaha amp & just cranked the volume! 😂
Another great video from the GREAT RAF. ? What do you have the fronts crossed over at. Or maybe do a video on crossovers settings. Thanks RAF for ur videos
Hello i am a big fan of your videos but could you probaly help me by one problem i have a marantz sr7013 reciever i have a 5.1 system contains 2 kef r11 speakers 1 kef r2c and 2 kef r3 as bookshelf speakers the audessey calibration setting my fronts to small i putted them by manual setting to large and the lfe+main on now i dont know which crossovers are good for this speakers the audessey put the fronts to 40 harz but means less harz more bass ore is it clockwise already thanks for your time
Question, I set my speakers to the test tones using a db meter on my denon in the setup menu. That was no big deal. When watching TV or any source for that matter If i hit options on the remote theres an option for speaker level adjustment. Those values are at zero. Why is this different than my initial setup and how should these be set or should it be left alone. To adjust those values there is no test tone, just whatever sound is coming through from the source.
OP does not really know anything about setting up your system. Those levels are at zero, because it's a reference point to whatever your initial calibration was. You can adjust each source - say your center speaker is not giving you enough volume for TV output but enough for DVD Player, you can choose TV Output source and adjust front speaker to your liking by upping levels of a front speaker a little bit. Those levels will be saved for each source and the reference point is the main system setup where you did Audyssey
I have an onkyo receiver. When I run calibration it always sets my front left speaker to 8 feet away. No way it’s 8 feet from where I sit to that speaker. All my other speakers are more accurate because it sets my right at 12 feet, center at 11 feet and sub at 13 feet but for some reason that left one always gets set at 8 feet lol. Any suggestions? Should I just manually change the distance for that speaker?
I dont know why must of the tech you tuber home theater gurus always point that front speakers must be set to small , my front speaker are 12 inches and they can handle the deep bass .My bass sound very weak when set to small and I have 2 sub woofer , but when I set large and bass + main sound amazing
Hello, im new to all this, i have a Denon X2600H! I understand all this but what i dont know is the settings under the option button that takes to another channel level settings screen where the levels are different from the ones made by the calibration, i can set different values there. What are those for, what they should be?
@@TheRafcave but in Odyssey the setup still remains at 40Hz. although in the manual I have set 80Hz. so which one works 80hz (manual) or 40hz (odeessy) thank you
I've done the Audyssey calibration, and I'm checking with a SPL just for fun. It's only an app SPL, but it's weight to C and I'm running it on slow, so it should all work correctly. BUT... The sub is only in the 50 dB range, and even cranking its level on the AVR, I can only get it up in the 60 dB range. However, I feel like my sub is definitely doing its job, providing nice punch and rumble when I'm watching actual content. What do you recommend???
Subs are always tricky for a spl meter and not really accurate. I just go by how It sounds with everything. If It's good to your ears that's what matters. 😉👍🏽
He double basing his fronts just because he thing his fronts are big setting your speakers small is not saying they are small bro am pretty sure your fronts cant do 20 hz
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I hv a trbl abt klipsch....can u hlp me.plz plz...
What trouble?
@@TheRafcave it never sounds good I always have to set it up using an spl meter.. I hate the auto calibration
I tend to run my calibrations first and then use the SPL meter to get the 75 level.
it works well as a workflow as the distances/delays from each speaker are handled in the calibration, as is the majority of the EQing, and then i just fine through the output level.
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I wish you got more views and likes man you seem to know exactly what you are talking about and you helped clear up ALOT of confusion/problems i was having. ty
@therafcave thank you so much, I have the same speaker setup as you and subwoofers, I have been trying to calibrate my system for over one year and I tried your settings and wow! I can’t believe what I was missing, love you bro no homo.
Damn man that put a huge smile on my face. Wow. Glad to help man. Enjoy. 😊👍🏽
I'm with you, I read or hear people bashing on Odyssey, but it's been great on the recent purchase of a Marantz SR6015.
I tend to agree with this as I am running the Audyssey pro kit and do not mess with levels after auto cal. As far as Crossovers go then I will switch to 80hz. I keep my speakers on small. If I need volume then I turn it up on my processor. My dedicated room is on the biggish side so -15 is a good level for me and the family when watching a movie. I have other presets stored for different types of listening. This is a good video with great advice. Personally I have never needed an spl meter.I have tried using one and I found that it raised the volume on my system and I found that I kept turning it down.
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Even after running auto calibration, you should still use the SPL meter to check what your system has done. I find that Audyssey sets the levels of the surrounds too low and tames the subwoofer too much so I stopped using it. Most run their surrounds and subs a few DB higher than the mains to give a more immersive sound field. With that being said, you are correct....to each is own and you need to do it by trial and error until you get your system to a point you are enjoying every minute of it. Keep up the great work....love your content bro !!!!
Yep a few tweaks here and there really can bring the sound to life. Thanks man.
Brian TV That’s what I say. I bring up my center channel +3 dB. My front heights +4
And my subs 85db
They trim to much. I also run heavy on dynamic settings/ reference. Etc.
For some reason my dynamic settings turn themselves off once in a while.
Larry
Dynamic EQ boosts the surrounds and subs as an option to enable while having audyssey enabled
It's not each to their own.
Each brand has a different image and sound.
You aren't allowed to get what the other brands offer from your brand.
Good video and good info. I was just gifted a Marantz SR6008 and am going through the room setup now.
Btw, 'levels' in your title doesn't need an apostrophe. It's plural, not possessive.
Thank you bud. 😉👍🏽
My feeling about the "large/small" argument is; do i want to hear those frequencies from my 50 watt receiver, or my 325/800 watt subwoofer. Guess which one. I do use LFE + Main, Marantz calls for this setting to be used. Without that being set, the only frequencies sent to the SUB are the .1 channel, accounting for about 10% of a movie soundtrack. LFE + Main does not send low frequencies to your front speakers, as some people believe. It sends front channel low frequencies to the Sub + the LFE.
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You seem like a smart dude good video... I hated the auto setup on my pioneer drove me crazy
Fantastic video,Always a great job. Thanks raf !!
Thanks Henry! Glad to help! 😊👍🏽
Great video setup 😎👍
Thanks man!
Why do I always see levels in the minus level? If I do minus I can barley hear my speakers. I dont have an amp and my reciever is 90 watts per channel. I keep mine at positive 5 and 7s.
Negative on the volume is fine. You may need to recalibrate or use a spl meter and measure each speaker to 75db.
@THE RAFCAVE Yes that's with 2 different calibration level meters. 75 dcb has them at plus 5 with onkyo 6100 reciever. Running yamaha 6ohm speakers.
Thanks for sharing. Greetings from James J in Limerick city Ireland
Do you have a power app attached to your receiver? I have a Marantz SR7015 3 front speakers, 2 svs subs, a set of front height and rear height speakers along with 2 rear speaker. do I need a power app to power this setup? What power app would you recommend?
@JohnNicol-t5h Yes, I have a 5 channel amp and a 8 channel amp connected. Yes separate amp Is very recommended for better sound. Emotiva or Outlaw amp Is good.
Thank you tip 👍
I just used the app on Android as my meter. I just need to adjust my center speaker and rear speakers to small, and 2 front speakers to large. Thanks for the info.
I know this is an old video but I would never set my main speakers to "large" UNLESS I wasn't using a subwoofer. 10" speakers are not going to reproduce sub-sonic frequencies but will be damaged trying to reproduce it. Subwoofers are designed for ultra-low frequencies.
Setting my fronts to large just means I'm not sending the original bass Information designated for the fronts to the sub. But yes the majority Is set to small.
YAPO result is effective only for distance. And if wrong connection than it shows error. In case of other things it is not good.
Good. I m using yamaha HTR 3072 AVR with Yamaha Bookshelf n Sw speakers. My confusion abt Master Value on AVR while setting DB level with SPL. If i set it on 0 than there r no effects on SPL. I have to Set it between 65 to 70. In beginning what DB level should set for all speakers. I m setting all (-) 10 individual speakers than i m incresing.
Oh ya and by the way home theater rules definitely
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thank u for video bro.
my receiver is Denon X2400. mine is small room. after setting up the audyssey calibration, all negatives values were set for levels. but with this, I hav experienced low sounds so I had to crank up the volume on my receiver (over 70%) to hear decent sounds. Thats why I have increased the levels to all positives like +2 or +3 and then I heard decent sounds. appreciate any tips for my issue?
TiA 😊
I would try a SPL meter and set you speakers to 75db. I use negative volume so mines set to -10 for normal movie watching. 👍🏽🙂
THE RAFCAVE thank u bro :)
I had the same problem so I had to set my FL, C, FR and Sub all to + levels then it sounded louder.
I ran the Audyssey on my Denon. All the levels were set to + instead of - and I heard that creates clipping which damages the speakers. There are so many conflicting reports on that.
Did you set your volume to 0 before calibration?
Thank You So much for this.I just ran Ypao and for the first time trusted what Yamaha settings. It put my Center channel crossover at 120HZ. which I always changed and I always used to self calibrate after Ypao and boy have I been missing the boat.Leaving just what Yamaha set up has blown me away.My center sounds amazing and I was about to get rid of it!! Never heard my system sound so good.
Awesome Matt! 👌🏽😉
@matt giunta Hi friend, I've just bought a Yamaha RX-V683. My mother language isn't English but Spanish from Spain and I've couldn't understand rightly what you've meant in your comment. Do you mean you ran the YPAO test and nothing else? Did you trust in that automatic configuration? Could you explain it with more formal English? Thanks in advance. I found a trick to set the presence speakers. adjusting the Db of the gain of the speakers to 2 or 3 Db more I have noticed a remarkable change. My presence speakers are of the kind "upfiring" I've put them over my two front speakers.
Yes I trusted the YPAO test and whatever it set the speakers to I kept and did nothing else. Before this I always used a sound pressure meter to check what YPAO test gave me and I always changed things. This time I did not do this and the sound is the best I have ever heard.
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@@mattgiunt Thanks a lot!. BTW! When I spoke about "gain" I was talking about the option "Parametric EQ". I set that with 2-3 Db more. I've read that in a youtube video for the Atmos-enabled speakers of the type "upfiring".
I may try my towers at large and lfe+mains to see the difference, I have dual pb16 ultras so I never bothered to try it in the past
Always fun to experiment! 👌🏽
Need additional settings for the marantz sr.6014 would you have a video
I don't have one
When Audyssy sets all of those "for me" I have to turn up the AVR SR5015 to near 60 to get enough sound out of it. Crutchfield said something is off. I shouldn't ever have to turn it up past 55. Ughhhh. So, I had to go in and change all of those to + plus whatever to make them louder. Not liking Marantz with my B&W speakers. I have a 5.2 setup.
I use the negative volume setting.
@@TheRafcave WHen I try that I can barely hear it. I wonder what other setting is not enabled?
So does this show the different volumes of the thing?
0:43 I'm sorry, but there is no debate. If you want to set up bass management correctly (and precisely) in a small room, you don't set your fronts full range. *facepalm*.
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When I tried to keep my Sony BDVE3200 volume on zero and tried to caliberate no sound came for the speaker that SPL meter can catch. What to do in this case?
0 volume Is loud
@@TheRafcave i didn't get you sir. Then what should i do? At what level I have to keeep in my SONY BDV E3200 to calibrate my speakers? Plz help
@bepositive9259 Try changing your volume settings to relative
Dear I m using Yamaha HTR 3072 AVR with Yamaha high end Bookshelf speakers with Yamaha NSP 300 subwoofer. My flat area is 130sq feet. I m not happy with YAPO only speaker distance is ok. Pl tell me what Master Volume I should set on AVR while using SPL meter for setting DB Level. In my AVR MV start from 1 to 100. If I changed in to DB than volume is vice-versa. If I set MV 0 than there is no sound in case of MV 1 to 100. I have to set MV between 60 to 65. If I changed to DB and set MV to 0 than it is very loud n I have to set speaker DB level in minus may more than -10. Max limit is -10. So I m confused. I have SPl physical meter. So pl reply and guide me.
Can you switch the volume to absolute? Then 0 Is reference and use your SPL meter to set the pink noise to 75db and sub to 80db.
In the case where you have a theater room with six seats when the Odyssey asked for the 2nd and 3rd seat locations where do you put it after the middle of the room?
You can do up to 8 positions. In front of seats and behind seats. 👍🏽
I did the same set up, but holy crap did it destroy the sound quality when I ran through the auto setup.
I set my volume to zero on the amp master volume n couldn't hear the white noise. I don't understand what you mean by setting volume to zero. Sorry I'm new to this
Set the main volume to 0 then go the the test sounds and then measure the SPL
If i set my 2 fronts to - 1.5 I cant hear them. I would have to push the volume up to 25 to watch the news. I set them to + 7 and I'm good. Am I doing this wrong? Should I have to put my volume up to 25 just to hear the news on a negative speaker level? The negative numbers dont make sense to me. Do setting the speaker levels higher and using less volume strain the receiver?
Re check your wiring. I use relative volume so my volume Is always negative. You could try to recalibrate? But I don't use the positive volume reading. That's to weird for me. 🤷🏽♂️😉
@@TheRafcave I am using +0db and volume up to 23. seems to be ok.
I performed calibration with Klipsch 7.1.2 and Onkyo tx-nr7100 9.2, but my Central Speaker with the Dolby Atoms setting is silent but the front sound is coming from the side front speakers. I can only hear the central channel when I switch the setting to 'All channel stereo'
Re check you wire connections.
@@TheRafcave I did and they all well connected
What you're calling bass is not actually bass.
It's subwoofer.
Bass is a guitar.
Subwoofer is way lower than bass sound pitch.
You need to listen to music instruments to calibrate your system.
Do you have a setting for sleep
Raf - have you done both the Audyessy and the SPL meter calibrations from scratch? And if so, do you like the sound of the Audyessy better?
Audyessy balences the EQ of your speakers, and then SPL that to suit your listening position after. So answer Is yes.
I was wondering if you play in channel for music which settings are prefered
He thinks his 10 inch speakers in the mains are large. My front mains are Infinity SM-152 with 15 inch speakers. They can shake my AV room with no problem. No need for a subwoofer. I bought them a few decades ago at Best Buy for about 600 Dollars. They are made from walnut and measure 40"X 18"X 13" and are heavy as hell.
What is the volume level set at when you do you calibration ??
0.0 Darin
THE RAFCAVE thank you
Back here again I have a question just because I got a denon now do I just leave all my speakers at 0db so it can match the source level?
Run Audyssy, then spl speakers to 75db.
@@TheRafcave okay 👌
Jesus Christ I love your videos🥵🥵
Thank you 😊
I need help. I have Klipsch r52c and R620F for L eft and Right and R51m’s for surround. Dialog is very hard to make out what there saying it’s really annoying I’ve run auddeseyy multiple times, moved speakers in different positions and it hasn’t improved at all. Idk if my settings are right or if im doing something wrong
Recheck your wires, set all speakers to Small. Try again
@@TheRafcave I’ve replaced my speaker wire in the center channel and checked all the other speakers and made sure they were in the right terminals. I’ve been messing with it for like 2 months and really thinks of going back to a soundbar
Do you have a cheap center channel? Get a large Definitive Center speaker and you'll hear, EVERYTHING
@@PhillyDjHook I had a klipsch r34c then I switched it with an klipsch r52 and dialog was very hard to understand I also went from a Sony receiver to a denon one but still no difference. So I actually returned all my speakers and got a Sonos arc sound bar with their wireless surrounds and although they don’t sound as nice as having real speakers dialog is a little better. I honestly think it’s my hearing because when Black Widow came out in theaters dialog was so hard to understand at the theater so I think it’s just me
hey man i hope you doing well!
i have a question because you say if you have auto calibration (my case is marantz) leave it that way but in your other video of crossover’s you say i’m gonna put on 40hz to not push too hard the speakers (example: your front klipsch). So my center frequency response is 81hz-21khz and my auto calibration put my center to 40hz. It’s that okay or i need to put on 100hz? to not push too hard the speaker. Please help me and sorry for my english i try my best i hope you can understand me
Frequency response of my speakers:
- Klipsch R51M Front: 62Hz-21Khz
- Klipsch R52C Center: 89Hz-21Khz
- Klipsch R41M Surround: 68Hz-21Khz
- Onkyo SKF558 Atmos: 80Hz-20Khz
Marantz Auto calibration Audyssey:
Front: 40Hz
Center: 40Hz
Surrounds: 60Hz
Atmos: 110Hz
@@NaashoCL Hi,
Set your speakers to,
80hz
100hz
80hz
100hz
Try that. 👍🏽
@@TheRafcave thanks for answering. i’m gonna try that! 😁
Should speaker levels
be + dB or -db
I thought + increases the sound level?
Yes, my levels are below 0 so It's negative.
How the woofers work in stereo mode in marantz
Just use stereo mode and the subs will work with your left and right fronts. I do It this way.
Does the woofers gives stereo bass effect while playing atmos or multi 5.1 or 7.1 coz marantz has independent subwoofer option
Yes, when you calibrate your speakers In Audyssey, your subwoofers will be seperated and balanced correctly.
Can you tell best equalizer band setting for movie dialogue in center speaker..
80hz or 90hz crossover for the center channel.
Hi.just joined..
Needed your advise.
I have an onkyo r558 5.1..
I love watching movies and getting the matrix effect ,black hawk down,behind enemy lines
How many decibels should I set speakers at to get that effect?
My room size is 20Lx10.10Wx10H feet.
My samsung 46inch has front,left speakers on each lower side and center speaker above it
Front r and l and subwoofer13feet
Center speaker is above the tv
from sweet spot..
Surround R and L 5ft away from sweet spot .
To get that surround effect and yet clearly hear dialogues what should be my sound setting.
I have audessy setup but it sets decibels at vey low and r really doesn't capture the subwoofer ..
What do you suggest to get that movie like surround and yet clear dialogues
Hi, get an SPL meter and measure 75db at your sweet spot.
@@TheRafcave sorry how do I use it ?
@@macsan1234 Sit in your chair and measure each speaker test tone to 75db volume with the SPL meter.
@@TheRafcave got that..sit in my chair and set to 75db but what shd b volume level on my home theater?
Hey, I've got a problem & maybe someone can help? I have a Denon AVR S740H & I just bought a subwoofer & polk audio (Elite ES35) Center speaker. I've ran the calibration mic that comes with the Denon. Everything was detected, but no sounds is coming-off the center speaker at all!! The amp sees it, but doesn't send any power to it from what I can tell. I have medium sized front speakers (France made Focal Chorus V). The amp reacts as if the 2 front speakers+woofer are enough and ignores the center completely. How do I fix this? As it is, it's great for music (Metal head type of music) but for PS5 games & DVD movies, I'd like the Human voices to shine through the center speaker and it just doesn't play anything.
Run a speaker test as see If you hear static noise out of them
@@TheRafcave Hi! Thanks for responding. What I did was letting the Denon/Marantz' software install the speakers by itself instead of assigning manually 1st and it automatically categorized my front speakers (Focal Chorus 8 Ohms) as large instead of small. Then, I re-ran the calibration mic. Now, the Center speaker works, but it isn't perfect. Both the subwoofer & the Center speaker are too quiet, meaning that the front speakers are still assigned the brunt of the amp's power. Because my speakers are old school (not Dolby Atmos nor surround), I think I'll need a Decibel meter to balance all of them correctly. I'll look for the technique to do that. Amp's volume set point+ Db measurement at the speakers' cones. I spent the whole day yesterday trying to understand that amp. The CD player is plugged into the cable audio sockets for it to work (that's crazy, but here we are) Denon are great, but complicated tech. Gone are the days when I plugged-in my speakers on a Yamaha amp & just cranked the volume! 😂
Another great video from the GREAT RAF. ? What do you have the fronts crossed over at. Or maybe do a video on crossovers settings. Thanks RAF for ur videos
I'll make a video on mine! 😃
Thank you sir 👍👍
And one other thing that bugs me. What do you do with the tone levels and channel levels when hitting the option button thanks again..
When i put the test tone setting on my denon x8500 to zero on master volume i dont even get sound out of my speakers at all
Your volume settings are different than mine. 0 would be silent yes. You can change the volume settings In your demon volume settings.
Hello i am a big fan of your videos but could you probaly help me by one problem i have a marantz sr7013 reciever i have a 5.1 system contains 2 kef r11 speakers 1 kef r2c and 2 kef r3 as bookshelf speakers the audessey calibration setting my fronts to small i putted them by manual setting to large and the lfe+main on now i dont know which crossovers are good for this speakers the audessey put the fronts to 40 harz but means less harz more bass ore is it clockwise already thanks for your time
Hi, I would select 60hz for your fronts. Lfe+main, 80hz small for the rest. See how that sounds.
@@TheRafcave thanks for the fast respond i will try it whit this settings 🙏
Question, I set my speakers to the test tones using a db meter on my denon in the setup menu. That was no big deal. When watching TV or any source for that matter If i hit options on the remote theres an option for speaker level adjustment. Those values are at zero. Why is this different than my initial setup and how should these be set or should it be left alone. To adjust those values there is no test tone, just whatever sound is coming through from the source.
I wouldn't mess with those. As long as your using the levels you set with the SPL meter your good to go.
OP does not really know anything about setting up your system. Those levels are at zero, because it's a reference point to whatever your initial calibration was. You can adjust each source - say your center speaker is not giving you enough volume for TV output but enough for DVD Player, you can choose TV Output source and adjust front speaker to your liking by upping levels of a front speaker a little bit. Those levels will be saved for each source and the reference point is the main system setup where you did Audyssey
Jesus Christ sar I am Indian and i want used 4k sony vpl vw-285projector so help me
My test tone makes noise, is that good/bad?
That's good. You want to make sure all speakers are working, and the noise is also meant to measure spl.
I have an onkyo receiver. When I run calibration it always sets my front left speaker to 8 feet away. No way it’s 8 feet from where I sit to that speaker. All my other speakers are more accurate because it sets my right at 12 feet, center at 11 feet and sub at 13 feet but for some reason that left one always gets set at 8 feet lol. Any suggestions? Should I just manually change the distance for that speaker?
It's setting that distance to compensate for bass frequencies. It's best to leave It where It sets them. 👍🏽
I have onkyo too 929 getting a antham I don’t like oddysy
I dont know why must of the tech you tuber home theater gurus always point that front speakers must be set to small , my front speaker are 12 inches and they can handle the deep bass .My bass sound very weak when set to small and I have 2 sub woofer , but when I set large and bass + main sound amazing
I feel ya man. 👍🏽🙂
Hello, im new to all this, i have a Denon X2600H! I understand all this but what i dont know is the settings under the option button that takes to another channel level settings screen where the levels are different from the ones made by the calibration, i can set different values there. What are those for, what they should be?
Don't worry about the option button for channel levels, just stick to the calibration. 👍🏽
@@TheRafcave ok but what are those?
@@AexoeroV They are all default level speaker level settings that would overwrite your calibration settings.
@@TheRafcave i see thanks, what i still dont understand is why they didnt changed to the values of the ones of the calibration.
Never thought about It because I don't use It.
odyssey has set a 40hz speker. then we set the manual to 80hz whether it works to 80hz? although oddessy on?
Yes, or what sounds better to you.
@@TheRafcave but in Odyssey the setup still remains at 40Hz. although in the manual I have set 80Hz. so which one works 80hz (manual) or 40hz (odeessy) thank you
@@gavrielho6635 80hz with audyseey on.
@@TheRafcave oke TQ mr...okay thank you mr. what's your email mr. ahead maybe I want to ask?
What dB should I set my subwoofer my av receiver always sets it to default -15?
That's because your av thinks your sub is to loud. I would go -12.
@@TheRafcave thank you. and awesome review appreciate it
Quick question. Did you adjust the center channel after calibration. Thx
No adjusting, only If you feel your not getting loud enough voice volume you could up It a few db's.
Thank you.. And one more question. What about the cinema EQ and parameters settings thanks again RAF.
@@bricebush447 cinema eq Is fine. Not sure what parameters are there?
Ok thank you
I've done the Audyssey calibration, and I'm checking with a SPL just for fun. It's only an app SPL, but it's weight to C and I'm running it on slow, so it should all work correctly. BUT... The sub is only in the 50 dB range, and even cranking its level on the AVR, I can only get it up in the 60 dB range. However, I feel like my sub is definitely doing its job, providing nice punch and rumble when I'm watching actual content.
What do you recommend???
Subs are always tricky for a spl meter and not really accurate. I just go by how It sounds with everything. If It's good to your ears that's what matters. 😉👍🏽
💯💯💯💯💯
I did the auto calibration and my voice is to low
Raise the center channel volume level
What about channel level and input source level?
Keep that flat.
Set that large speaker to small man
Depends
Why 75dB ? I thought reference was 105dB.
Always been 75db
I believe at the movie theaters it's at 83db-85db
THX averages 85 DB for reference levels. 105 DB is the maximum.
0.00 db on all three front channels nothing higher (of course)
Nothing too lower either
@@JayPatrol During testing absolutely
He double basing his fronts just because he thing his fronts are big setting your speakers small is not saying they are small bro am pretty sure your fronts cant do 20 hz
Do they sound good? YES. 🙂
@@TheRafcave you can mess things up that way more than fix things unless you took measurements and really work out the kinks
@@chriswelljack4910
Where do these guys come from? This guy is another BSGT2TREKFAN88
@@TheRafcave
If you are using a dedicated sub for home theater you select small for all speakers. NO EXCEPTIONS!
@@thegoat164 they got the big speakers syndrome lol its big so let's set it to large
I don’t think you know what the hell you’re talking about boy. Giving wrong information!
There Is no One rule to speaker setup dude.
Do you use REW? It would be interesting to see what it would look like with your current settings and crossover points.
Regards
Hi Berry, no I don't have the equipment to do that. 😕