5 HUGE Mistakes I Made Starting Out in Sports Card Investing (2020)

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  • @SportsCardInvestor
    @SportsCardInvestor  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @patrickmiskelly5913
    @patrickmiskelly5913 4 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    One mistake I made was buying wax boxes trying to find the huge hit. In many cases it would have been better to just buy the card I wanted vs. Spending alot of money trying to pull one.

    • @SportsCardInvestor
      @SportsCardInvestor  4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Yes, for sure. Open boxes for fun only, never for investment.

    • @stevechavez228
      @stevechavez228 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Join the club. . . I did. . .

    • @HamsterK37
      @HamsterK37 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, when I got back in after a couple decades, I did the same thing. Now I buy the occasional retail to scratch the itch of opening a pack then being surprised by a hit.

    • @jamesholt5749
      @jamesholt5749 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I feel you on trying to pull a gem from a box. My FIL recently passed and left a massive collection of cards. There was some old factory sealed boxes from the late 80's and early 90's (junk era, I know), and I thought, "Man, it'll be a synch to pull a gem rookie from these boxes and sell those". Man was I wrong. Centering issues, weird surface dents, squished corners, and cards sticking together made 95% of what I pulled straight garbage.

    • @Hyperbolestore
      @Hyperbolestore 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I got the rush on wax cracking too. Now I’ll only buy wax to keep and resell later when the wax appreciates. Other than that, I may chop up a case with 6 friends and play poker to determine teams that get picked. Makes for a fun night of poker with friends and ends with a bang when we crack packs together.

  • @joeecm27
    @joeecm27 4 ปีที่แล้ว +221

    Is one of your top 5 mistakes that you bought a bunch of Lonzo Ball cards?

    • @georgefranklin8513
      @georgefranklin8513 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol yup

    • @inn3rl0tuss69
      @inn3rl0tuss69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂

    • @8mathdaddy
      @8mathdaddy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here. I’m stuck with a bunch of Lonzo, too. But, he is now lifting weights and getting buff. Let’s go!! Lol

    • @inn3rl0tuss69
      @inn3rl0tuss69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lonzo isn’t that bad you just need to wait for him to be on the same team as his brothers

    • @jefferlemeier7999
      @jefferlemeier7999 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was talking about the centering on them

  • @kingdon1882
    @kingdon1882 4 ปีที่แล้ว +399

    Don't collect sports cards for investment. Collect for the love of it. You'll never lose money!!💯👍😁

    • @kevincrispien4570
      @kevincrispien4570 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Well said! I'm a player collector and collect only what I like. I NEVER BUY PACKS. I'd rather spend $500 on a card that I want on ebay versus getting lucky pulling the same card out of a pack for a fraction of the price. 98% of the time you're just gonna get smoked. I've bought cards in the past that I wanted desperately at the time that have come way down in price over the years. So what! Don't care! I got something I wanted and checked something off my want list. Mission accomplished.

    • @francesgerardgenil1592
      @francesgerardgenil1592 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This I have yet to realize.

    • @SanFran49erfan
      @SanFran49erfan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      dont buy stocks for investment. only buy if you love the product. see how that doesnt work? you can certainly do both at the same time. i buy and flip cards i dont like to get the ones i do.

    • @callmechris.
      @callmechris. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Plus its fun

    • @jpmnky
      @jpmnky 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Exactly flipping is one thing. This guy is just itching to fuck people in the future. We've been here before.

  • @garenhuddy2633
    @garenhuddy2633 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ebay and auctions is what determines card values, not becket.

  • @davidrayfield4638
    @davidrayfield4638 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    9s for psa still add a ton of value compared to raw.

    • @sawmill035
      @sawmill035 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That depends very much on the card we're talking about. It also depends on how nice the raw card you're comparing it to looks. If the raw card has an obvious flaw of some sort that pretty much guarantees a non-10 grade, you are correct. However, if you have a really sharp card that has a high likelihood of grading out a 10, give me the raw card, all day long.
      For most cards, the difference in value between an 8 and 9 is significantly smaller than the difference between 9 and 10.

    • @RingsideTed
      @RingsideTed 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      9's certainly sell pretty well in the mlb/ebay world!

    • @oscarmiramontes8577
      @oscarmiramontes8577 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree

    • @pauld8790
      @pauld8790 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sawmill035 as long as its a hot card.

    • @morsteen
      @morsteen 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm sending in all my old cards really. Even if they aren't the best. I'm only not submitting obvious rolled corners or major surface and centering issues. Why? Because to me, preserving them in a psa/bgs cases is still worth it to me. So what if I get a psa 8 or 9, and only the occasional 10. It's better than leaving them in the plastic pages for another 20 years. Why not clean em up and grade them so they are preserved at the very least?

  • @andyd7374
    @andyd7374 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    I bought a high power magnifying glass with a light and stand...40.00 on Amazon...OMG what a difference...you can see EVERYTHING...

  • @texastackycal7979
    @texastackycal7979 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    For as much as we are spending PSA should give a reason for the deductions, It sucks that they can put a score on anything and we have no idea how they scored it or why is scored that!

    • @cadel2218
      @cadel2218 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A lot of people don't know you can set a limit if you wish! its unfortunate because you still pay, but you won't have a sealed up 7 lol.

  • @steveb7091
    @steveb7091 4 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    He spent more time looking at that card than PSA would.

    • @miked9863
      @miked9863 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      PSA: "This card is only getting a 10 if they slide $100 under the table."

    • @drumatic
      @drumatic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      biggest scam grading co. in the hobby... stay far away from PSA. look fwd to day when they are exposed.

    • @Bowman1951
      @Bowman1951 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That million card backup over at PSA isn't going to solve itself otherwise :)

    • @SportsCardInvestor
      @SportsCardInvestor  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      lol

    • @rjcollings1
      @rjcollings1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow why would you have been “investing” in cards and didn’t know simple stuff?

  • @daymionmardel6459
    @daymionmardel6459 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Made similar mistakes- one that stands out was buying raw cards on eBay - so many of them came back trimmed - huge lesson - now for the most part - only buy graded - and 99% of the time, it has to be psa 10

    • @anklebreaker9728
      @anklebreaker9728 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most time if they’re being sold raw, it’s because the person who’s selling it already knows it won’t grade gem mint. They can BS all they want in their descriptions, but the card has some type of flaw that you’ll miss until you send it in to be graded and it returns back not what you expected.

  • @donscoma2985
    @donscoma2985 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Grading is subjective. I only collect T206"s and been at it for 18 years. I have cards come back from PSA Graded "A" deemed to be trimmed and sent the same card to SGC and it came back as a 5 (EX). GO figure!!!!!!!!!! Save your money and just collect for the love of collecting. HAPPY TRAILS y'all.

  • @ScottMarkman
    @ScottMarkman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    My biggest mistake was spending pretty heavily on group breaks. I got sucked into all the TH-cam excitement and blew through a ton of money without getting any hits or pretty terrible hits.

    • @visaman
      @visaman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes, that's gambling with a rigged deck.

    • @ScottMarkman
      @ScottMarkman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Jay Steel been good. Almost cancer free for a year now. Thanks for checking!

    • @hvcool
      @hvcool 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i hesitated many times to join breaks, but it sounds so risky. I have bought boxes and cases which I prefer and could be risky at times, but you get something out of it majority of the time.

    • @kuriakosnuay6391
      @kuriakosnuay6391 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats what i do now i just dropped 700$ smh... Whats the best alternative

    • @kuriakosnuay6391
      @kuriakosnuay6391 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And got nothingggggf

  • @fliplife67
    @fliplife67 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    What drive me nuts is the fact theses card company been making cards for along time but still there cards aint center.

    • @SportsCardInvestor
      @SportsCardInvestor  4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yeah, isn't it crazy? Why can't they get that right?

    • @markinnes4264
      @markinnes4264 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      as bad as ever... even for $100+ boxes.

    • @fliplife67
      @fliplife67 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markinnes4264 That's what I dont get about panini the have theses National Treasure cards but there not center or in perfect condition but they cost like what over 1000 of dollars a box.

    • @kingpencowboy7977
      @kingpencowboy7977 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Can't all be be perfect then none would be valuable then I guarantee that do it on purpose to eliminate the all gem mint 10 got to have some bad with the good

    • @fliplife67
      @fliplife67 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kingpencowboy7977 Truth but if your going to drop that kind of money it should be.

  • @jasonreppel1339
    @jasonreppel1339 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My biggest issue is trying to collect too many players and overall just trying to do too much!

  • @talkingsportsinc
    @talkingsportsinc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Learned lots of these the hard way as well but as long as you grow from it it’s not a loss, just market tuition. Everybody’s gotta go through sports cards school and tuition is never free!

  • @JAS0N_M00RE
    @JAS0N_M00RE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you going to open slot of boxes or packs make sure you have somewhere to put all the cards the base and inserts add up fast

  • @brewsandbreaks2400
    @brewsandbreaks2400 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    #4 and #2 are big. Chasing prospects can pay off big at times but sticking to known stars and following the value is key!

  • @Ilikepats
    @Ilikepats 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I just got my first big investment for my birthday. Got a 20 card lot of lukas for 75 dollars total. 7 rookies, 2 numbered cards, 3 prizms, 5 parallels, 2 base and 1 insert. I got about $200 worth from that awesome steal of a lot. Hopefully luka can win mvp soon.

  • @jcb998
    @jcb998 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    PSA 9 on the patch cards is very good. They tend to grade the thicker cards tougher. More room for error on thicker stock. Plus if the patch is multi-colored that can push the price up.

    • @codyscott4977
      @codyscott4977 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jason Bellitto your almost always going always going to get a 9 with those.. almost near impossible for a 10

  • @C.Baumann
    @C.Baumann 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Also, determine your focus. I catch myself on this too. Chasing after the next great thing. I got back into the hobby with the intention of collecting Milwaukee Braves only. And did so for a long time, but I got off track. Now I find myself chasing the cards I loved as a kid. From the junk era. Wish I woulda went after PSA 10s of Griffey, Thomas, Ripken, Canseco, Ryan, Mattingly etc. Recently all those cards have shot up, and I’ve picked up some, but Griffey Donruss PSA 10 rookies were going for 25-35 all day 5 years ago. Now they’re pushing $500. I didn’t buy them because I took it for granted, and they weren’t “high dollar” enough for me. Now it’s out of my price range and I’m chasing the other cards. I should write an article all about it. LOLZ

  • @jude999
    @jude999 ปีที่แล้ว

    Agree on centering. Im glad that when I got back in five years ago after a 30 year break, that centering was stressed. Centering was not even a consideration by anyone when I collected in the early 1980s.

  • @gameinformationpokertheory
    @gameinformationpokertheory 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video Geoff, I hope you follow up with top 5 Mistakes of Intermediate and Advanced Investors/Collectors. 1. Inventory Management and Valuation 2. Macro Market Evaluation (All Collective Sportscards/Entertainment Cards) 3. Micro Market Evaluation (Individual Sports or Entertainment/Movie Cards) 4. Macro Money Management or Budget 5. Micro Money Management or Budget 6. Grading Pipeline 7. Sales/Marketing - Market Timing or Risk Management (Example is how you Sold your 2017 Panini Prizm Patrick Mahomes during Playoffs, before Super Bowl and right after Super Bowl) 8. Re-stocking Inventory versus One Time Investment 9. Market Speculation (Success Ratio for Profitability) 10. Liquidation of mistakes 11. Liquidity - Cash Reserves 12. Portfolio Management (Buy/Hold/Sell) 13. Advanced Analytics (Research capabilities - You can plug your Market Mover tool) 14. Macroeconomic Analysis (Financial Market impact, Quantitative Easing or Covid-19) 15. Evolution of the Hobby over time (Solve for Why) - Figuring out Peak (Top) and Valleys (Bottom) based on Greater Fool Theory...Here are just some suggestions - you can develop your own. Intermediate and Advanced Investors/Collectors deserve their own video to complete the Series. Beginners are easy...you can lead a novice to an Oasis and they will drink sand because they don’t know any better. 🤓🏀🏈⚾️😂

    • @SportsCardInvestor
      @SportsCardInvestor  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks - 15 good ideas to choose from :)

    • @Al-ImprovEd2022
      @Al-ImprovEd2022 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Steven Nguyen I hope you’re at the National. I’m going to follow behind you and buy whatever you buy. 😄

    • @gameinformationpokertheory
      @gameinformationpokertheory 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Raleigh Al - Hahaha! Sure, if I Win the WSOP Main Event...then I will attend the National in Atlantic City with $1 MM in cash. Will be Buying the same guys I like right now: Michael Jordan, LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, Stephen Curry, James Harden, Anthony Davis, Kawhi Leonard, Damian Lillard, Jayson Tatum, Donovan Mitchell, Luka Doncic, Trae Young, Zion Williamson, Ja Morant, Albert Pujols, Miguel Cabrera, Mike Trout, Jose Altuve, Ronald Acuna, Juan Soto, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Patrick Mahomes, DeShaun Watson and maybe Lamar Jackson. I Buy Blue Chips to Grade and Re-Sell. I just keep it Simple. 🤓🌎🙈🙉🙊😂 I guess I would pick up Color Prizms of Wilt Chamberlain and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar like I have since 2012-13. I have way too many HOF Panini Prizm Color Prizms in Basketball and Football...they are very Gradable, but have never been popular. 😜🏀🏈🤣

    • @Al-ImprovEd2022
      @Al-ImprovEd2022 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Steven Nguyen 🤣 one day we’ll be hiring card advisors. I like your pics above. Imagine how the market would move if grading was quick. If I could get my vintage graded quick I might buy some new stuff.

  • @alpo27
    @alpo27 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sometimes you have to send PSA a card twice to get a 10 if you got a 9. Wouldn't bother with an 8.5

  • @marcbarrington1897
    @marcbarrington1897 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The counting the dots is a great tip. A huge amount of my Prizm cards have 3 dots on the left side and 4 on the right side. Just that alone immediately disqualifies it for me from sending out to get graded (which is disappointing given some of the cards that have it). I find PSA are slightly more lenient than BGS on the centering, but even with that a lot of them, the Prizm's in particular are so clearly misaligned that you don't even need a magnifying gizmo to see. I've been told that PSA will go 10 on 45/55 centering, but anything more than that immediately bumps it down to a 9.

    • @marianosantiniello2213
      @marianosantiniello2213 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea, that's been my experience too. Bgs is stricter on centering.

  • @twcards1284
    @twcards1284 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    My big mistake was thinking I could open Hobby boxes of cards and then sell them to make money. Dumb me! I’m just sticking to rookies for now and sending them into PSA

    • @mfi5pdeq
      @mfi5pdeq 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      TanstrosFan not selling the right cards then

    • @cashrules520
      @cashrules520 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just buy the cards you want

  • @dallascowboyshighlights9632
    @dallascowboyshighlights9632 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s not only the star player factor but also the team factor. Cowboys, Yankees, Lakers second tier players will sell as well as some other teams star players.

  • @tedlogan5628
    @tedlogan5628 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    May all your packs contain Gem Mint 10's and.......Be Excellent To Each Other!

  • @thequickerflipperpickerupp6281
    @thequickerflipperpickerupp6281 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm new to card collecting. Thank you for your time, and advice! 😊✌

  • @jrsportscardschronicles3587
    @jrsportscardschronicles3587 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It depends on the card. If it's a hard to find/get RPA, sometimes a 9 is ok. If it's an older card of a top player/goat like Lebron an 8.5 is fine too. And RPAs often times come out of box/packs with corner issues already. It all depends, but yes for base moderns you want to be submitting 10s or BGS 9.5s.

    • @SportsCardInvestor
      @SportsCardInvestor  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right, for base moderns. For RPAs, I prefer BGS, because of the subgrades. PSA will likely just slap a 9 on it and be done.

  • @true_rcs
    @true_rcs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great video Geoff! Shows transparency and honesty behind what your doing. Keep up the good work.

  • @jfoster1515
    @jfoster1515 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your Gator shelf is amazing ! I'm glad I randomly found this channel... I'll be marathon-watching this as I have the next 5 days off... Go Gators !

  • @MrChrissherren07
    @MrChrissherren07 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My biggest mistake i made is thinking my childhood cards would be gem mint but they’re all 5s at most! I have Kobe rookies, a Gretzky rookie, and so many hockey hall of famers rookies.. all basically worthless

    • @sethbriars2042
      @sethbriars2042 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pokellector905 sell them for a dollar each or bulk on eBay

    • @LorcanaDude17
      @LorcanaDude17 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Join the club!!! Ill keep them for memories and for the kids!

    • @maxmacdonald4440
      @maxmacdonald4440 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Keep those for yourself, pulling those as a kid is worth alot on a personal level

  • @tdsportscards
    @tdsportscards 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You hit it on the nose with these 5...but you missed one...impulse buying when a player is hot...you can lose a lot when you do that...I'll probably pick up one of those loops...I'll try it out

    • @SportsCardInvestor
      @SportsCardInvestor  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very true!

    • @THampton4741
      @THampton4741 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Guess I've made a mistake then. Bought 40 base and 7 silver Coby Whites

    • @wyattfelling
      @wyattfelling 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tim Hampton Just hold on to those??? Give him a year or two. You probably bought him for dirt cheap. That’s not a mistake yet

    • @wyattfelling
      @wyattfelling 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tim Hampton Coby White is not “hot” right now

  • @bobbyboucher1096
    @bobbyboucher1096 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you do vintage watch out for over grading and cut cards.

  • @baseballcarddreams6087
    @baseballcarddreams6087 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The mistake I've made is paying the buy it now price for graded cards. Love your videos thank you for all your insight.

    • @hardwoodhoopscentral
      @hardwoodhoopscentral 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you elaborate? Do you negotiate more versus just payingbtye asking price?

    • @davidrummel133
      @davidrummel133 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel like this really just depends on the price.

  • @RacerRed
    @RacerRed 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think a really big problem with online buying is shill auctions that bid on their own stuff. Even if you try to wait and snipe it at the last second they can run the sale price up to what they want to sell it for to insure they dont take a loss.

  • @joeryia8554
    @joeryia8554 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My mistakes were opening boxes. I have the worst luck. Now I just buy the cards I want. Much happier now!

    • @darrenzeledon2610
      @darrenzeledon2610 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Joe Ryia the reason I buy boxes now is to sit on them then flip them for more. It’s a good way to make some extra cash.

  • @Futureman75
    @Futureman75 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just purchased the magnifying glass. 12 hours ago there were only 19 left. I just now purchased one and there were, ta-da, 19 left. If the tool is as fantastic as it’s claimed to be, then win!

  • @kaykamken03
    @kaykamken03 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Jeff Amazing video!! Ive made all of these mistakes. Except mistake #1. I've collect thousands of cards but I've yet to send any off to be graded. I will be ordering the magnifying tool to help me to determine what to send in. Thank u!

  • @misguidedangel6550
    @misguidedangel6550 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    investing $10K in cards in the next couple months. Mostly Hockey but open to a bit of everything. After the $10K is spent which might take a month it might take 3 months, im gonna sit on everything for 12-16 months then I'm gonna resell it all and see how I do.
    Might end of keeping a few cards for personal collection if I do good on the investments.

  • @thermalrain_yt9725
    @thermalrain_yt9725 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My biggest mistake is not keeping all my cards from when I was a kid collector. Got all my pokemon cards still and in decent shape some are damn near perfect

  • @freedomwallace7761
    @freedomwallace7761 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My mistake was going for quantity instead of quality. In certain breaks the most sought after team would have too high of cost so I would go after cheaper teams that I knew I would get an auto or two. But all those autos together are not worth as much as one from the higher cost more sought after player.

  • @HighlightTributesOnBeat
    @HighlightTributesOnBeat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One thing I've learned is that those star players that go up exponentially, I grade anyway. You hope for 10s obviously, but in the long run, 8s and 9s of them will be very valuable as well and often still give you back more than you invested. The players that fill your fantasy lineup, like you said, you try and catch early and if they turn out into those stars you can grade later.

    • @Al-ImprovEd2022
      @Al-ImprovEd2022 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      But is that only if you did a bulk submission? Most 8 and 9’s really only sell for around $10 unless it’s like a Jordan or an iconic card like a Griffey rookie UD. I’m just not seeing good return in grades less than 10 but hope I’m wrong.

    • @HighlightTributesOnBeat
      @HighlightTributesOnBeat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Al-ImprovEd2022 What I mean is, guys like Lebron, Giannis, Mahomes, Zion, etc. if I have rookies of them I send them. You know they will definitely be Hall of Famers one day and their 8s, 9s, and 10s will all be valuabe. The key is to get them early in their career. Usually players like that have huge appeal coming into their draft year and just get them early. Usually I just go straight to the guys I want and get them rather than buying packs and boxes because you lose more money. This year is an exception for me in basketball, because I consider this year just like the 2012 year in prizm. It's a great class. You pull one Zion or Morant and you make up a good percentage of what you pay for the box or pack. Grade them and wait a little time for others to develop ("the fantasy line up.") Send all Zion and Morant, maybe the silvers of other potential rookies, and wait a little while before you send a bulk of their bases. For example, if you caught Zion early this year before he came back from injury, he was at 45$-50$ per card. Look at what 10s and 9s of him are now (for bases). Football prizm will probably be here in November, get Burrows and Tua and other qbs with potential. Say you had 10 Zion, 10 Morant, and the same with some qbs since they are the money position in football. Put together a bulk of 50 cards at 10$ per card you will be fine. Save any potential base (fantasy fillers) for grading later if you notice their stats getting better. One key in card collecting is to stay up on players production, especially the players with upside not just the superstars.

    • @granados1990
      @granados1990 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Highlight Tributes On Beat And how much would these be worth let’s say 10 years from now (Zion/Bron/Giannas)

    • @Al-ImprovEd2022
      @Al-ImprovEd2022 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Highlight Tributes On Beat ok I see what your saying.

    • @HighlightTributesOnBeat
      @HighlightTributesOnBeat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@granados1990 Well, I consider Zion to have the same upside as Lebron did when he entered the league. Take Lebron's Topps Chrome 2003 rookie card at a PSA 8 base, and compare it to a Zion PSA 10 base Panini Prizm from 2019. Then look at a Lebron PSA 10 Topps chrome from 2003 and imagine what Zions could be? The key is to get them early.

  • @kingpencowboy7977
    @kingpencowboy7977 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The $24 you cannot beat that tool I suggest everyone buy one ASAP it would be the best investment if they don't have one already that model very handy for purchasing stuff on the go

  • @jstevesonfire119
    @jstevesonfire119 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    #4 worked in my favor. Fav player was Jordan. Middle schooler traded every body else for Jordan’s. 200+ by eighth grade.

  • @stobernh
    @stobernh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought multiple boxes of old Fleer 1993 basketball cards in my search for a Michael Jordan Scoring Kings card. High gloss cards (if not stored properly) don't age well and eventually stick to each other. I didn't get the Michael Jordan but I did have to pull apart a couple vintage Scoring Kings cards that were deemed worthless because of their condition. Heartbreaking. Stay away from high-gloss vintage cards!

  • @kuriakosnuay6391
    @kuriakosnuay6391 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got a jordan poole courtside /5 green checkerboard im new with not so deep pockets not sure if its a great saver or seller

  • @TheSpud1129
    @TheSpud1129 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One mistake I made one day when I was younger, was not buying a Jordan rookie for $100 from my LCS. Kept going back and looking at it every day for a month, and finally saved up enough to buy it. It's been packed away for the last 25 years waiting for the day to sell it. Have no idea what condition or the value, it's one of my best memories in my youth.

  • @padmille
    @padmille 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good point on the star value being exponential. Just take a look at many of the 50 greatest players of all time; most of their cards are worthless now compared to the very few that retain interest (eg MJ, Kobe, very short list). That’s why it’s real hard for me to speculate on young players because almost 100% of them will be forgotten in 20 if not 10 years.

    • @josephvegas3052
      @josephvegas3052 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is a good point. Everybody buying Acuna Jr or even Freddy Freeman of Braves...and ozzie Albies is on the same team [amazing player], gets overlooked....Albies led the league in hits last year I think [like 189 hits in 2019], yet is not really talked about.

  • @Johncunhasoccer0
    @Johncunhasoccer0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What I don’t get is why is the PSA 10 worth so much more than the BGS 9.5? To me, the BGS 9.5 is harder to come by and BGS has a better/more durable case & the gold label looks better in my opinion. Also, BGS has way better turn around.

  • @peopleintrees
    @peopleintrees 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Biggest mistake is spending thousands on packs just to pull one specific card when I could have just purcahsed a PSA 10 of the specific card I was looking for for way less than what I spent on packs. Thanks for the video!

  • @jasonabernethy8424
    @jasonabernethy8424 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My biggest mistake was not buying in bulk. I got a Giannis Prizm Rc for $20 a long time ago. I felt confident he would be special. So I took this initution, and then bough 1 hoops, 1 pinacle, 1 select, and so on. I now have 20 MPJ Prizm rc I bought for $3 each or less.

  • @dareenphilip498
    @dareenphilip498 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow I really want to get into investing into sports cards. NBA sports cards to be exact. I love the game and why not try to make money off of it. But I have ZERO knowledge. So here I am subscribed and watching your videos.

  • @joesmith201212
    @joesmith201212 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My biggest mistake was selling my Troy aikman score rookie card back in the early 90s for $20 that card was easily a 9+ card and is now worth hundreds

    • @irabryan8433
      @irabryan8433 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      OH yea, back in '95 my brother took my Fleer MJ Rookie and sold it to the local card store for $35.

    • @joesmith201212
      @joesmith201212 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@irabryan8433 oh man ouch even if it was an 8 that's close to a thousand

  • @shacalister
    @shacalister 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    i used to donate cards of players i didnt know existed... An old guy told me to hold on to rookie cards for 4-5 years. Thats how i kept my tom brady rookie card... I wouldve donated it to an orphanage if it wasnt for that guy

  • @davesoldmanstrength4222
    @davesoldmanstrength4222 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video. I collect for fun, but if I get a great card. It is always nice to know what to look for.

  • @ghappyc9346
    @ghappyc9346 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I mostly bought cards that I want and also buy packs/boxes or join breaks just for the fun of it

  • @NickNoel
    @NickNoel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    your channel is about to blow up!! love the content

  • @DouglasLee9
    @DouglasLee9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The thing I notice about cards is that the first year they come out, the most popular players values skyrocket exponentially. If you sell then, you can make good money. The second or third year, the focus moves to the new prospects then you can come back and get players back at a discount. Example, when Lonzo hit the market, he was trading high. If you sold after a year, you would have done pretty well. Now that he has been in the league a bit, his pricing has matured, and you can get a better deal for the long term hold. My mistake was buying into the euphoria of the first year and paying top price, only now to look at my collection with many losses and few winners.

    • @SportsCardInvestor
      @SportsCardInvestor  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good one!

    • @albi7024
      @albi7024 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wait, what if that player is Luka though? I think the example you used only works because Lonzo Ball sucks.

    • @DouglasLee9
      @DouglasLee9 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@albi7024 i think luka and zion are for sure to go up. I would load up on luka now but wait a bit for zion to see if it cools down. I'm a bit behind but I just bought some of the panini zions with his duke uniform. They were affordable. Still waiting to get a. 9 or 9.5 on the base card.
      My example could be expanded, but dimembe mutombo comes to mind as hot initially but more affordable when prices cooled.

    • @DouglasLee9
      @DouglasLee9 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@albi7024 I'm not a lonzo fan but I think he will be ok. We just expect players to be up and running from day one. If they get their 4 years then they can establish themselves. At least he changed his ugly shot.

    • @coldworldnoblanket9684
      @coldworldnoblanket9684 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oof. That’s part of this game. Not all players will pan out. But my Top who will succeed due to their gameplay is Luka, Zion and Ja. There are many other players who can come up. It’s all a gamble end of the day.

  • @victorsummers5933
    @victorsummers5933 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent advice Geoff! Learning from mistakes (yours & others) can certainly become Valuable Info. It's great that U share this.TYVM!

  • @C.Baumann
    @C.Baumann 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Buy the card, not the holder. So many times early on I was buying vintage, where I would rather have had a PSA 6 with dinged up corners than the PSA 7 that had sharp corners that are off centered. I learned quickly, but those off center cards are though look at now. Someday I hope I can replace em with centered ones that look nicer

  • @beelertv5650
    @beelertv5650 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great info! I’m just getting started and I’m definitely picking up a lighted magnifying glass.

  • @rockoutconsiderably
    @rockoutconsiderably 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The opening has the exact same cadence as Marcus Lemonis' "The Profit"

  • @patientzero265
    @patientzero265 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another money saving video. I have been binge watching your videos this weekend. I have certainly made all these mistakes as recently as today. The membership and data tool are amazing! Thank you.

  • @JC-pu7gi
    @JC-pu7gi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jeff I got back into it in 2020 and I’m still learning & make mistakes.

  • @frankiec127
    @frankiec127 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My first mistake was investing in base cards of up and coming stars. Once I learned more about the market, I started to look more into population reports on PSA. Don’t get too caught up on pop reports because there are many more factors involved when investing into cards. This is why I’m going to teach the world soon.

  • @BrandonChung
    @BrandonChung 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video as always! Checking the price history is so important. This helps investors find higher value cards instead of going for the main Prizm cards. Also the magnifying glass tool looks really helpful. I've been buying Joel Embiid rookie cards but after watching this I need to focus on the exciting, flashy players like Luka.

    • @SportsCardInvestor
      @SportsCardInvestor  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Big guys can be OK if they score a lot. Embiid does, but the 76ers are a bit of a mess right now. I hope they get it together before the playoffs!

  • @mattportugal9668
    @mattportugal9668 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Centering is probably the single most important , and along with corner sharpness are the most basic of conditioning determination. Smh.

  • @jeremielegault144
    @jeremielegault144 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're a good guy Jeff, thanks for the help!

  • @hoytstill3955
    @hoytstill3955 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep your mistakes. In 1990 I purchased some Fleer basketball cases and put them away for a potential retirement stash. In 1998, I bought a bunch of Barry Sanders rookie cards, including 3 score PSA 10's. Then he retired early. The cards I considered trashing (Fleer) because they were worthless back in the 90's, when the over printing became apparent, are finally paying off. And those $100 PSA Sanders rookie cards are looking good, not to mention all the raw cards I acquired of Barry.

  • @1959whitesox
    @1959whitesox 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I notice one thing most modern collectors are saying they lost money opening packs and investing in the wrong rookies
    Almost all vintage collectors that have bought cards and sat in them have made money vintage being older than 1970
    Modern being newer than 2010

  • @gregoryhunt1159
    @gregoryhunt1159 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do not consider it a mistake to only grade gem mint cards. It does make it easier to determine a fair market value and hopefully avoids counterfeits .And the card is better protected for the future and card values do change over time.

  • @treverforland3219
    @treverforland3219 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello I’m just wondering what kind of card packs should I shop for? I have a pretty good grip on nhl packs but what baseball and football besides the optic should I look to purchase?

  • @Rossbrian1
    @Rossbrian1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Buying boxes instead of singles was my early mistake... hit or miss on boxes and way to expensive

  • @lonnieconway7537
    @lonnieconway7537 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am new and opened mosaic Football at the card store.
    I pulled a Mac Jones rc genesis and sold it right there for 150 bucks not knowing it's value I thought it was a good sale.

  • @CMacUF
    @CMacUF 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Made ALL of these mistakes, including Rudy Gobert

    • @8mathdaddy
      @8mathdaddy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mine was Dak, Lonzo, Cousins, Kris Bryant, Corey Seager, Puig, Judge. Horrible!!

    • @anklebreaker9728
      @anklebreaker9728 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kevin Le how is judge a horrible investment lol? He’s actually Pretty good. Dak is a decent investment. Just be patience.

  • @markiemark3647
    @markiemark3647 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t underestimate PSA 8/9 rating they also cost much...

  • @j1177o1
    @j1177o1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My first biggest mistake was joining a player box break without looking over the set list and player hit information. I eventually found 130 point for that information. My second biggest mistake was joining another player box break on a very difficult set (Impeccable) even though I did check the player hit and did a probability of landing those players.

  • @magnificcenTCG
    @magnificcenTCG 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    been collecting sports cards since kid mostly as a hobby but grew more passionately about it. Investing wise, few things I learned. watch out for fake cards, been to a few card shows and def have seen some fakes out there as well as online. Don't dismiss gaming cards even if you dont like it. Magic and Yugioh cards have been going up like crazy even just the past 8 months its gone up much more than your average sports cards. Some singles and sealed boxes i bought past 2 years have atleast 5x in value. Sealed product is almost always better to keep rather trying to break and get lucky. year 2000 football and 03-04 basketball in particular is very expensive. I remember wanting to buy cases of 03-04 exquisite when it first came at $1500/per but didnt have any money to do so just like wanting to buy bitcoin in 2010 : (. I'd say for the most part grading cards is a waste of time and $ unless you know for sure the card you are sending in is Mint + and typically you only wanna send in your best cards. Lastly for those who open a lot of product like sealed cases, i've first hand seen manufacturer "patterns" if you will. I'd open a case find the box in a particular position in the case and that would be the case hit, i've seen this about 12 times in a specific basketball product and luckily for me those were all MJ and Lebron autos it was insane.

  • @JimDee885
    @JimDee885 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Learned a ton through the video, learned a lot through the comments as well. Thanks everyone.

  • @chrisbuk7405
    @chrisbuk7405 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stick with Prizm, NT, maybe Select for bball, bowman for baseball, and I'd say probably only buy PYT group breaks for football.

  • @subzero4524
    @subzero4524 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the insight and wisdom. My son and I have really learned a ton from your videos.👍👍

  • @dingleberrypie9518
    @dingleberrypie9518 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video, Jeff. One of your points is particularly valuable when buying cards today online. That's the reality that pack fresh does not mean gem mint. And I'm not just talking about cards I rip. Many times I've dm'd sellers about a card's condition to be told it's flawless/mint only to receive it with chrome spots or print lines. I don't think that's the seller trying to cover up flaws, rather it's just a seller that falls into that 'just pulled it so it's mint' mentality.

  • @bigmike8397
    @bigmike8397 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I quit collecting around 96-97. Opened so many 86, 87, 88, 89 fleer. Still have a ton just not sure if it’s worth grading because of the cost. Anyone else feel the same?

    • @muddysouth55
      @muddysouth55 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m in the same boat right now. Just dug out maybe 1/4 of my collection to see what I can unload. My kitchen table is covered, I’m about halfway through what I brought out of storage and I’m as overwhelmed as I’ve ever been lol.

  • @RippSlip
    @RippSlip 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The biggest mistake I've made was investing in guys when they have already peaked. Also, selling too early, I sold a gem mint 10 Juan Soto 1st Bowman auto for 200, that one hurt

    • @SportsCardInvestor
      @SportsCardInvestor  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, I have some stories like that too! It happens; you learn from it and get better!

    • @dandougie363
      @dandougie363 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just sold like 10 of thoes topps 96 kobes for $5 ea n that was a deal before he died 🤦‍♂️

    • @anklebreaker9728
      @anklebreaker9728 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dannysmokes doesn’t matter. Who knew he was gonna be gone so soon? No one did. His prices only spiked because of people like you who want to manipulate the market. 🖕🖕🖕

  • @projectsquarebody4720
    @projectsquarebody4720 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    can you do a video for absolute beginners talking about card lingo? refractor,parallels,base cards,etc

  • @claytonsmith716
    @claytonsmith716 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ugh CENTERING!!! It’s gotten me, esp the top/bottom. Actually made a checklist for looking over cards now otherwise I forget until they show up and it’s too late. Photos it’s still so tough, passed on many cards that I just can’t quite tell because of angles, blur, etc.

  • @chadkuebler8639
    @chadkuebler8639 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you have a link to the costs/instructions on how to send your cards in to get graded through PSA? I usually do BGS.

  • @miked9863
    @miked9863 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My biggest mistake loading up on Kobe Bryant Finest rookies and passing on Kobe's Topps Chrome rookies when they were both selling for around $25 a card. Quit collecting a year or two later when I saw I bought the wrong one. Now Mahomes has me back in the card collecting again.

    • @pauld8790
      @pauld8790 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do yourself a favor get some Josh Allen cards

    • @miked9863
      @miked9863 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pauld8790 I loaded up on Mahomes rookies starting last February.

  • @dadybad08
    @dadybad08 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Buy PSA 10 for full price, they’ll go up if your sitting in them as an investment. Buy raw cards that you like because you love to collect. That’s my way

  • @EL-ERIC
    @EL-ERIC 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is considered modern football cards and what is considered vintage football cards..all of my football cards are 1975 to 1996

  • @traviseland5694
    @traviseland5694 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I started two months ago my biggest mistake was, no one told me that players in there college uniforms where less valuable they a rookie athlete in there pro uniform.

  • @jerseyshorerealtor
    @jerseyshorerealtor 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the one thats on a stand/clip so you can handle card with both hands but definitely need one of these or you are wasting time and money sending to grade.

  • @sunrisee1022
    @sunrisee1022 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow the market movers thing looks amazingggg but it’s $50 and I don’t have it 😭😭😭

  • @MrFine-uh1bd
    @MrFine-uh1bd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Geoff stop grading those patches, man. Nice Magnifying tool. I'm on it! Thanks for the assist. I'll go grab one.

  • @Son-Of-David1990
    @Son-Of-David1990 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My number one mistake is assuming 80s to early 90s big players cards in mlb were worth alot of money... Then i was educated on the mass production of cards in the "junk wax era"

  • @nickywaggs8672
    @nickywaggs8672 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m a huge chiefs fan and went insane on Mahomes rookie in 2017. Got lucky 😊

  • @ryanc9797
    @ryanc9797 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My biggest mistake was not selling my Michael Carter Williams auto rookie card 1/10. His market value was booming at the time and I thought i'd hang on to it. Huge mistake ...

  • @zackphy
    @zackphy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yea the popularity curve showed it's head during Linsanity lol. Jeremy Jin went from being cut from teams to a gigantic star baiscally overnight one year and because he was a nobody beforehand he only had a few cards that weren't worth but a few cents each, rpa's included, then overnight even his base rookie cards went up to at one point over 100 dollars and more. I remember all of a sudden a formerly lackluster year for rookie basketball cards that had a lot of stock left over just dissapeared from the stores. Even places like Wal-Mart and Target were bought out of cheap retail packs. I think his rpa's were at one point selling on Ebay for like $20k+ when just a week or 2 before they were less than $1. Then Linsanity was over and the prices crashed again. They never went back down to their original lows but you can get rpa's for a couple hundred now. Some ppl made a LOT of money on those and others lost a lot lol. I believe it is still today one of, if not the, biggest jump in value of a player in the shortest amount of time. Cam Newton did a similar thing where he wasn't a top prospect when his cards 1st hit but his value skyrocketed soon after. They also went down after his Superbowl loss but after being signed to replace Tom Brady on the Patriots maybe they'll go back up if he's successful there.

  • @cherd5343
    @cherd5343 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One huge mistake that wasn't a problem for this guy, but will be a problem for most others ........ Forgetting that you have to have money to make money. This type of speculation can pan out for a highly analytical/intelligent person with piles of disposable cash to throw around. However, the likelihood of an average person with average money achieving this level of activity is not likely.