How He Started a $62,000/Month Business Selling Sports Cards

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ธ.ค. 2024

ความคิดเห็น • 778

  • @UpFlip
    @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    UpFlip Academy helps fast-track your journey from startup to success story, join us at: bit.ly/46wVpMu

    • @tobyduke1467
      @tobyduke1467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great video interesting

    • @williammcmurtrie871
      @williammcmurtrie871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Biggest takeaway is they draw a steady crowd in and they keep working at ways to get more people interested. Plus they seam to be genuine good people just being themselves.

    • @jonathananderson7990
      @jonathananderson7990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I literally went to this shop TWO WEEKS AGO!!! Bought a rookie Lamelo Ball and the dude was straight up. Honest and chill. Didn't say a word, I said I'm looking to invest in some Rookie cards to get a collection and profit years down the road...and he didn't correct me "cause I was a prior collector as a young kid and knew what direction to take for later sale" but actually got me some nice Rookie Basketball cards. Rookie James Wisemen, I'm sure he's more of a baseball fan but it was perfect.

    • @captainactiv
      @captainactiv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thing is though now after the boom $5000 won't get you started, it'd be more like 15-20k. Y'all opened this shop at the absolute best time to do it. Congrats, awesome looking shop.

    • @marcspardello1254
      @marcspardello1254 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@captainactiv HI Darth, serious question. When you say $15-20K to get started is that including the inventory? It seems like he has a ton of cards, or are you just talking about displays and signage for the store...thank you for you response in advance

  • @nickswf
    @nickswf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    The Card Boom is real. Props to those who can afford it and having fun collecting.(and those profiting) I feel bad for those people addicted to breaks and boxes that it's making them broke. I collect casually now and stick to single cards - if you go down the rabbit hole, a lot of your cash will be gone and cause you anxiety. Be responsible folks.. it's a hobby. Don't lose your life over cardboard!

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      How big is your collection? :)

    • @rmi8975
      @rmi8975 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      100% on the gambling addiction component. Although I've pulled some big cards from breaks, that slope can get slick quick.
      Good collecting

    • @andrewcross8244
      @andrewcross8244 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It seems real-optic boxes going for $500 and not a single good card is in 99.9999999% if you wanna run a card shop you have to have extremely deep pockets. It’s gambling nothing more or less

    • @Awwiwuvtest
      @Awwiwuvtest 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it was real, it died down incredibly

    • @zachm.3165
      @zachm.3165 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s still huge though

  • @jerrylor98
    @jerrylor98 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I'm 41 years old now, and I started collecting cards when I was 12. I remember going to the card shops and trying to pull mutombos rc cards. I stop collecting cards in the early 2000s because all the card shops in my area close downed because of ebay. It's Great to see card shops opening up again because there's no better feeling then opening up a pack in the shop and landing the player you were chasing for.
    The industry has change so much, everything is so expensive now..

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sports cards sure can create wonderful memories. It sure is nice to see some local card shops coming back. Thanks for sharing Jerry!

    • @brucelee8926
      @brucelee8926 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hedgefunds bought and own PSA . They are slowly destroying the hobby by manipulating the prices. Thousands of collectors will lose lots money within the next 2 years and the hobby will crash. That's what VEGAS DAVE say on his videos

    • @joealberici8146
      @joealberici8146 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Vegas Dave is a dork

    • @yankees29
      @yankees29 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just came back after over 30 years. I expected a price increase but wow!

    • @justinvickclt
      @justinvickclt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I didn't have a card shop near me, so I had to rely on ripping packs growing up (3 Mutombo Skybox rookies by the way). The internet has increased accessibility to where you can buy what you want when you want it. I agree that the hobby is pricey. I've been reconnecting with those 1980s and 1990s sets I couldn't afford as a kid and going further back in time for less volatile vintage. I'll probably start buying 2021 cards in 10 years!

  • @austingardner785
    @austingardner785 3 ปีที่แล้ว +207

    First step to opening a sports card store: having a backdoor plug for boxes or having a good bot lol

    • @moshiimaaa
      @moshiimaaa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Or like he said in the video having 3 different distributors is the key to obtaining product. I’m sure a brick and mortar store like theirs takes priority and they don’t even have to go to websites for live drops. They just make a call or place an order to get theirs.

    • @yumo_media
      @yumo_media 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@moshiimaaa they do prioritize the brick and mortar stores

    • @doghousecomics
      @doghousecomics 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Brick & Mortar shops don’t need to bots, and they aren’t hanging around Walmart, or Target, waiting for restocks. They spend $20-$30K a month, on inventory, and deal directly with distributors.

    • @flyingchimp12
      @flyingchimp12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bot?

    • @ryandelsignore
      @ryandelsignore 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@doghousecomics do you have any additional info on how to contract a distributor? Thanks

  • @MrFolgers
    @MrFolgers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Great video! The interviewer asked really good questions, and had a nice pace. Editing and music were perfect too. Watched the whole thing without feeling the need to skip. The shop owners seem like awesome people. I wish shop owners where I’m from would watch this video and take some tips. Community part of it is so important to me and many seem to not care about that. Well done. Liked and subbed.

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome, thank you May! What is your favorite local card shop (lcs) where you live? Thanks for supporting the channel we really appreciate you.

    • @turfdirtsportscards5428
      @turfdirtsportscards5428 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you - we believe we are everyones LCS no matter where they live. Hopefully we can be your LCS too

  • @eliandjessica878
    @eliandjessica878 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I’ve been to their shop twice now and I have to say….THEY ARE AWESOME! My kids, wife and I love to go there. They are so nice, real deal and honest just like he said in the video. They even have a Christmas tree with gifts underneath and let my kids choose one. They got graded cards, autographs, supplies and lots of packs from those gifts. One kid got an autograph Jersey!! I was like , “ holy crap!” So cool. Customers for life! Great selection on everything. You MUST go and visit.

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We completely agree! Thank you for letting us know!

  • @LA_FOCUS
    @LA_FOCUS ปีที่แล้ว +8

    He should have saved the $750k he made because now he's out of business and owes over $100k to his customers. You should do an update for businesses like this.

    • @tayman4301
      @tayman4301 ปีที่แล้ว

      right...these clowns have no idea either. no investigating to the scammer this guy was....what a clown show.

    • @derekmarshall2907
      @derekmarshall2907 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’m interested in hearing the full story? I know the market tanked, but what specifically happened to this business?

  • @flyingchimp12
    @flyingchimp12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I would’ve liked to hear how exactly he got in contact with distributors, what’s the business model in terms of what product he’s looking to buy, and more details on how he got the business up and running.
    The last one is pretty much always the most important imo. Great video though, very informative, just would’ve liked to hear more details

  • @jkh2180
    @jkh2180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Oh my god it's a card shop that still sells single packs. It's so awesome to see that. Bless them.

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We loved to see that too! Thanks for stopping by!

  • @kennethdowns1722
    @kennethdowns1722 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Did nobody watch the interview…? More than half of the comments could be answered. UpFlip; awesome job interviewing Turf and Dirt! Small business’ come and go. With risk comes reward. Jimmy and Stacy found a way to run a small local business and used the tools that were in front of them to help them. That’s called ingenuity. America is the land of opportunity. I’m proud of this shop!

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well said Kenneth. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel!

    • @patrickhausenfleck9045
      @patrickhausenfleck9045 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      People in general love to hear what they already know... For instance.."Telling a gorgeous lady that she's Beautiful"..or "Telling an Athlete who's elite how spectacular they are".

    • @marcspardello1254
      @marcspardello1254 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UpFlip The "well said" comment is particularly funny in this comment and you know why 🤣

  • @justinvickclt
    @justinvickclt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I was impressed with how much thought went into every nook and cranny of the store. They have figured out many different ways to appeal to various collectors!

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Indeed! It was awesome to visit there.

  • @rudyinvegas
    @rudyinvegas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    The overall take away in this video, and in most situations in life, people who work hard like these two, are investing in their own futures and I for one am very impressed! GREAT video @UpFlip!

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great wisdom Rudy. One of the biggest reasons for Jim and Stacy's success is for sure the fact that they are willing to work 80+ hours a week each on their business.

    • @bobloblaw7030
      @bobloblaw7030 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      most people who are rich are born rich, such as donald trump, props to anybody who actually work hard for their riches, very rare

    • @matthong8028
      @matthong8028 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@bobloblaw7030 dude it's estimated around 80% of millionaires are self made, research done in 2019 shows that 68% of millionaires with a net worth of $30 mil or more are self made as well. Also, I don't like Donald Trump, but while he was born rich, he's not just living off his parents wealth. He has several business ventures, the biggest ones being Real-estate investment and stock investing. I don't think it's fair to say that he was just born rich and leaving it there, yea he was but he worked for his current assets.

    • @bobloblaw7030
      @bobloblaw7030 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@matthong8028 lots is wrong here with what u said......and please dont make me laugh by saying trump earned his riches....he was born filthy rich...and scammed and failed his way upward his entire life

    • @matthong8028
      @matthong8028 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bobloblaw7030 I don't think he's a good person, but how has he scammed his way to success? Also failure is a huge part to success, I've never seen anyone that simply "failed" their way to success

  • @BigE7Time
    @BigE7Time 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The most awesome, informative video that I’ve ever seen, about anything! Thank you so much for making this. I’ve had in the back of mind about wanting to start my own sports card shop. I would love to make that happen. This video helped me understand a lot. Thank you!

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful Brian! Good luck if you do decide to start a local sports card shop (lcs)!

  • @zachvavak4933
    @zachvavak4933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this was and EXCELLANT video representation of starting a local card shop. I have watched so very many and this gave me the best view of how it works of any. thanks for this

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful Zach!

  • @pauljanicek1872
    @pauljanicek1872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I learned a lot...didn’t realize what all was involved with a shop like this. Great work!

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful Paul!

    • @BoxerBruce
      @BoxerBruce 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, I know you! 🤣

    • @pauljanicek1872
      @pauljanicek1872 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BoxerBruce sorry?

    • @BoxerBruce
      @BoxerBruce 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pauljanicek1872 Corey and Paul! You’re famous in St Joe!

    • @pauljanicek1872
      @pauljanicek1872 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BoxerBruce hahahah, thanks for the shout out! Better than infamous!

  • @MainelyHockeyCards
    @MainelyHockeyCards 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Quite inspirational video for us smaller guys! I love hearing a story like this.

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it Mainely Hockey Cards! Who is your favorite hockey player to collect? Which hockey teams do you mostly collect sports cards for? Thanks for sharing and we appreciate you supporting the channel and your local card store (lcs).

    • @MainelyHockeyCards
      @MainelyHockeyCards 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UpFlip My favorite player to collect has changed over the years, and while I can't say I definitely still have a clear-cut number one favorite, I think it's a toss-up between Peter Holland, Jay Bouwmeester, and Henrik Lundqvist. I mostly collect New York Rangers, too, as they're my favorite pro sports team. I will certainly continue to support the channel and my LCS. Thank you for the reply, and keep up the great work!

  • @justinnalon5820
    @justinnalon5820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a great interview. Went to check to other videos, and saw many interesting videos. You guys should have more following! Underrated channel IMO.

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it Justinn! Thank you for the support and we appreciate you.

  • @KK-pm7ud
    @KK-pm7ud ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Saw you on Sports Card Radio. Prepared to be famous.

  • @danielmcallister8942
    @danielmcallister8942 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome video! i work in Bellingham and have heard about this shop, but never been there. I definitely need to take a trip there now. This owner is so freaking likeable!

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's an incredible store! Have fun!

  • @joep.-sportscardhobbyist3356
    @joep.-sportscardhobbyist3356 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. My card store on eBay has been doing great and it’s nice to hear from others on what’s made them successful. Seem like really genuine people, they’re what make this hobby so great!

  • @dakotalord6562
    @dakotalord6562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To be in the hobby since I was 10 to now almost being 21 and to see the boom and fluctuation of prices and how much has changed throughout my 10 years is absolutely mind blowing. I remember being a part of an Instagram community and now there’s groups on so many different platforms. I love to see how much success is being achieved. They seem like great people wish them the best for their future!

    • @AffordablePulls
      @AffordablePulls ปีที่แล้ว

      same here just turned 21 in april been in since I was around 10 even how the insta community has changed is insane

  • @jmtaylor1984
    @jmtaylor1984 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have done business with this card shop before and I cannot recommend them highly enough. I live in Florida now but was living in California at the time. It was during the pandemic and I remember doing business because I was so impressed with the professionalism. I actually tried to promote them on Reddit and was banned from Reddit because I was promoting their business for them. Lol! It was worth it. This card shop is legit. I hope they are still doing well!

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for sharing!

  • @369dusty
    @369dusty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video !! Full of interesting and necessary information ! It all boils down to hard work and perseverance, but the key to success is the info you shared from Turf & Dirt's personal experience they learned in 2 years !!

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @livinwithlt
    @livinwithlt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This was excellent! Cannot wait to run my own card store one day.

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would be incredible LT! Best of luck on opening up your own local card store (LCS). Where are you located? What is your favorite sport or card collectible?

    • @livinwithlt
      @livinwithlt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@UpFlip I'm out in Orange County, CA!! Collect everything and learning from this amazing hobby! I have met some awesome people and I learn everyday. I got a couple more years to retire out of the military and then I hope to have my own shop 😎

  • @cardscore4796
    @cardscore4796 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Jimmy and Stacy are two of the best! SO excited to partner with them in bringing Cardscore to the Bellingham community!

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We were very impressed with the Cardscore technology and are excited to where the future of the sports card market industry goes. Thanks for checking out the channel Cardscore Team and do keep us updated on your business journey!

    • @HailTheApocalypse
      @HailTheApocalypse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @George Havonoc the house (Topps) always wins.

    • @SpecialistGuava
      @SpecialistGuava 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @George Havonoc they said they're only making 4-5k in profits? If so, thats friggin awful. I didnt catch that part.

    • @SpecialistGuava
      @SpecialistGuava 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @George Havonoc a 10 case of what? You've verified their pricing? If this is true, these 2 are the dumbest business owners ive ever seen. I cant even find $200 srp boxes for $300. Might be time to fly to WA

    • @SpecialistGuava
      @SpecialistGuava 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @George Havonoc (and im not trying to challenge your statements. Im just finding it baffling)

  • @vgall7308
    @vgall7308 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks to Jim Sears for supporting a local Columbus Ohio business! Homage makes great throwback clothes, hit them up, support local!

  • @pauly5502
    @pauly5502 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think it’s every kids dream to own a card shop.. glad to see turf&dirt are doing well!

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A lot of people have dreamed of opening a sports card shop or collectables store. Thanks for supporting the channel PP!

    • @turfdirtsportscards5428
      @turfdirtsportscards5428 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      thank you!

  • @Livelife-xq1xq
    @Livelife-xq1xq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is what I love about the hobby. Good people who can appeal to all.

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching! Do you sell sports cards as well?

    • @Livelife-xq1xq
      @Livelife-xq1xq 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UpFlip yessir.

  • @bolsbolbol368
    @bolsbolbol368 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    He really dropped a lot of specific information that most aren't comfortable sharing with the world.

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We’re hoping it helps others grow too. Thanks for being here!

    • @brandongarnett5582
      @brandongarnett5582 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      looking to start my own shop within a couple years! this video is what i needed!

    • @eddiegonzalez5070
      @eddiegonzalez5070 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s crazy
      No cards from the 80s 90s. Kinda sad

    • @eddiegonzalez5070
      @eddiegonzalez5070 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@brandongarnett5582good luck to you
      Hope it’s a success

  • @Redkey7
    @Redkey7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wish no card shop could ever get robbed. Just great people in the hobby trying to have fun

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wish no business would ever be robbed!

    • @angellamyers9758
      @angellamyers9758 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish no card collector & investor would ever get robbed irs horrible

  • @roberthill3703
    @roberthill3703 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these videos I am currently in the beginning stages of opening up my own sport's cards and Collectibles shop. This has helped out alot much appreciated.

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is amazing Robert. Congrats and we wish you all the best. We can't wait see your shop. 😀Have you started a business plan?

    • @darioxbrow9223
      @darioxbrow9223 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Any news bro?

  • @eddyscardboardchaos
    @eddyscardboardchaos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is my LCS and Jimmy and Stacy are for real. Plus he is a fellow B-E grad so you know he is good dude. Best shop I've ever been in.

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing Eddy and yes there seems to be a lot of love and interest for Jimmy and Stacy's Turf and Dirt local sports card store (lcs).

    • @patriotsholobreakers6308
      @patriotsholobreakers6308 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UpFlip really good video actually watched the whole 30 minutes

  • @darioxbrow9223
    @darioxbrow9223 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1)get to know your customers
    2)be organized
    3)make discounts
    4)location is vital
    5)stay in your lane, keep the foot on the gas pedal

  • @ELWOPPO2010
    @ELWOPPO2010 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These two are amazing. This would be my dream job. I wish them nothing but success and happiness. Watching from Canada, Maybe one day I'll come visit. Keep up the good work guys 👍

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for watching! We hope you get to do what you love someday!

  • @pelehound
    @pelehound 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great vid. Jim is a great interview. Fantastic camera presence. He and his wife couldn't be better suited for the biz. However, oh man, I don't like where this hobby is going for store owners. Jim said he was sitting on $2 million or so of product/inventory. Or, at least that's what he thought he could sell the store for if he sold the store today.
    I'm old. I lived through the last card shop/hobby crash and burn. The current bubble is cool and profitable. Until it isn't.
    Because of Jim's business being on so many internet platforms in addition to the physical store, it should be easy to see when the biz has run its course. Good luck friends.

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great points letsgo Oakland. Only time will tell about the sports card market, industry and hobby. Thanks for sharing, supporting the channel and your local card store (lcs) and community businesses!

    • @nelsgoes
      @nelsgoes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Way too many different types of card brands in each sport. Leaf, topps/100 and beyond.... going to burn out

  • @arodyanksfan
    @arodyanksfan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is a sports card store to me. I like the "Clutter" and I LOVE when you have the big price stickers. I can't stand going to a store and I can't see the prices and have to keep asking to see something. The owner or worker usually gets upset because I'm not buying them.

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great points Arody. Sometimes its the little things that can really make a local sports card store (lcs) or even a business in general really standout.

    • @justinvickclt
      @justinvickclt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly. I usually go into a store with a budget and an open mind.

  • @windsorsportscards7569
    @windsorsportscards7569 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was just an awesome Video ! I’ve been in the sports card business for a short time , I love it in every way , taking it slow and learning all I can ! Thank you for this , loved it 👍

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Super Cool Windsor. We're happy you enjoyed the content. 😀What got you started in the business?

    • @windsorsportscards7569
      @windsorsportscards7569 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UpFlip I have always been into sports cards , mostly hockey growing up in Canada , but as an adult I’ve expanded into other sports that I played like football and basketball as well . Currently I am taking baby steps with this and absorbing as much information and knowledge I can , buying and selling , increasing my inventory . Baby steps with the plan to one day open my own shop when I am ready for that step .

  • @tdunn779
    @tdunn779 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really like them, wish they were located where I’m at man. My local shop is exactly what he described as being Dim lighted, simply not nearly as amazing as this place. If I ever somehow end up in their area I’m def gonna stop in and support them

  • @bretts.8661
    @bretts.8661 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yikes this video is about to get a lot more views with the recent scandal. Hopefully the theft allegations aren’t true but i know the card market is down and i wouldnt be shocked.

    • @kylerobbins9878
      @kylerobbins9878 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      they are true. they stole from me as well

  • @thomasfrederick8188
    @thomasfrederick8188 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a card collector who is slowly building is card collection this is awesomen

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It really is! How many cards do you have in your collection so far?

  • @VanceMan360OnTwitter
    @VanceMan360OnTwitter ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Update: Upflip interviewed a bunch of thiefs that have stolen upwards of $30k from PSA grading clients (and counting). Maybe vet your videos better, or don't, it's probably good for clicks. Make sure to upload an update video when Ron & Tammy get arrested, shouldn't be long.

    • @afaal83
      @afaal83 ปีที่แล้ว

      This should be happening to Jimmy soon.

  • @wolfgangfunkwolfgangfunk6166
    @wolfgangfunkwolfgangfunk6166 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of my favorite host he’s such a good interviewer.

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Paul is a fantastic host! He will be shooting lots more content so stay tuned.

  • @kylerobbins9878
    @kylerobbins9878 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    multiple police reports filed against these owners, might be time to take down this video. they have lied and stolen to handfuls of customers.

    • @afaal83
      @afaal83 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or upflip should update the video with another one showing what has happened since this has aired

  • @yolosolonorthwest6282
    @yolosolonorthwest6282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I need this guy as a mentor in my life!!! I love sports cards!

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching Yolosolo. Have long have you been a collector?

  • @TW-fv2zu
    @TW-fv2zu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The bulk of sales happened in Winter 2021 during the Once-in-A-Lifetime Card Spike, & now back to reality.

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you go to the National Sports Card Convention last week TW? It was the biggest and busiest it has ever been in its long history.

    • @TW-fv2zu
      @TW-fv2zu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UpFlip bulk of sales.

    • @coltsfancolts
      @coltsfancolts 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This.

  • @jordanashley2837
    @jordanashley2837 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I enjoyed this episode. This guy was a really cool guy and he seemed like he really cared. I would love to go to his shop if Im ever in the area!

  • @daveparker5541
    @daveparker5541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There is nothing like stopping by my local shop on my way home from work and getting 5 or 6 packs are ripping later that night. Yes packs over boxes all day.

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We could not agree more Dave. What is your favorite go to local sports card store (lcs)?

    • @daveparker5541
      @daveparker5541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@UpFlip Houston Sports Connection here in Houston,TX owner Howard Lao. He has been in business for over 33 years.

  • @NYC-SA-Mike
    @NYC-SA-Mike 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is one the best productions of the "behind the scenes" look at a LCS I've seen! The organization of Turf & Dirt is incredible. My LCS could take lessons from them. Jimmy was talking about after the "initial" allocation from Topps, e.g., afterwards the price jumps way up or he probably has to go to secondary distributors? Just wait till FANATICS gets hold of the industry!!!!! Thanx for sharing.

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it Mike! Thanks for supporting the channel. Jimmy and Stacy are awesome! Let's all support our local small businesses more often!

  • @MinutesANdPrincipleslife
    @MinutesANdPrincipleslife 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the attitude of this shop owner, it is awesome to do what you love for a living.

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you Gabriel. It's very great to be able to do what you love. 😀Are you a collector as well?

    • @MinutesANdPrincipleslife
      @MinutesANdPrincipleslife 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @UpFlip yes, I am starting to collect again. I have been collecting and enjoying the Hobbie for a long time. I lacked taking care of cards for many years. I just love the feeling you get opening packs, organizing, community, and trading.

  • @idk_sis
    @idk_sis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Local lgs’ are the best and deserve all the support from communities. Maybe one day when I grow up I’ll own a lgs

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is your favorite local game store (lgs) or local card shop (lcs) near you idk_sis?

    • @idk_sis
      @idk_sis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UpFlip so I’m from Florida (southwest area) and there’s a shop about 30 minutes away in a mall called prime toys and games, and the owner was awesome. Like I had finally met someone who was all about Pokémon like me 🤣. He told me they have another store which is even closer to me called Bonita springs toys and games. They’re the best and I think I’ll start buying from them instead of big box stores now bc the experience was amazing, and they have tons of stock and different items, even stuff from a few years ago that you can’t find at target or Walmart anymore

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is awesome to hear idk. Pokemon cards are so fun to collect. Hopefully one day we will get to make it down to Florida and can give prime toys and games an interview!

    • @idk_sis
      @idk_sis 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UpFlip that would be awesome! They definitely deserve all the exposure they can get. And yeah Pokémon are super fun to collect

  • @bjw9529
    @bjw9529 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m in Indianapolis and we have 3 card shops. One is cards/memorabilia and it’s far from me but not many boxes/packs, one is mostly Magic/Pokémon and doesn’t have much product at all, and the other, which is the closest one to me, is strictly boxes and he might have a few boxes open for packs. I think it’s awesome that you have the option to buy boxes/packs for every product here. Too bad you’re in Washington. I’ve always wanted to open a card shop but I fear, due to the ups and downs of the hobby, I’ll lose money. Plus, Indy is a kind of a weird market and I mean weird as in we don’t have really have a market. That’s my dream though. A sports card shop or music store. Maybe one day..

  • @kjvuser
    @kjvuser 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    MY FAVORITE HOST! NOTHING LIKE THE OG

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Paul is a fantastic host and will doing lots more business interviews coming up!

    • @AAAA-nv5cf
      @AAAA-nv5cf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like UpFlip and black UpFlip too

  • @texashustle2325
    @texashustle2325 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Seems distributors are not allowing new businesses to buy sports cards since existing demand is so high, so only businesses grand fathered in are able to get product. Do you have any suggestions on a distributor?

  • @hectorestrada7635
    @hectorestrada7635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love to see this type of stuff, great video and advice. Love the shop.

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Hector! We're glad you enjoyed

  • @Mufc88
    @Mufc88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome content and great insight into how to get started and where things can lead to in a short space of time with the right mindset. Class shop.

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for being here!

  • @krisninerfaithful49kd13
    @krisninerfaithful49kd13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jimmy and Stacey are awesome people in our hobby and thanks for sharing your experience Turf and Dirt

  • @nathanserdahl5945
    @nathanserdahl5945 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    About to drive 2 hours north and check this shop out, didnt know it existed! Time for a road trip!

  • @Bodangers
    @Bodangers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    They rarely make videos like this anymore 😀. Very informative and motivating to the younger audience. I dwell in Pokemon cards but the information can be applied there too.

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the kind words Bodangers. Hopefully we can do a cool comic, MTG, Pokemon based local card store (lcs) in the near future.

    • @jordanisabsent7675
      @jordanisabsent7675 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can have all my Pokémon cards

  • @DonBlomdahlHOF
    @DonBlomdahlHOF 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for this I live about 1 hour south of Bellingham looking forward to visiting Jimmy’s shop yes thanx a million.

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have fun Donald and let us know what you picked up the local sports card store (lcs)! You should have a great time hanging at the shop and with Jimmy and Stacy!

    • @kardskorner7654
      @kardskorner7654 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We can’t wait for you to make the trip up here!

  • @softaco3088
    @softaco3088 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool video. I'm always interested to hear how different businesses got started, stay afloat, etc.

  • @manuelramos3588
    @manuelramos3588 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a beautiful store, I sure wish a store like this existed close to me..

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It really is!

  • @themediamarauder1582
    @themediamarauder1582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice video. I had a shop from 1990-2010.. Glad to see sportscards made a comeback.

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's awesome! What made you start your business?

    • @themediamarauder1582
      @themediamarauder1582 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UpFlip I loved sportscards and had millions of them by the time I opened my shop. I started collecting in 1975. By the time I was in high school in the late 80s I had 10-20 sets of every brand put together. I always wanted to own my own business . I still have my own business I just did a pivot when the cards quit selling and movies were hot. Now movies are slow and cards are getting hot I may do another pivot....LOL

    • @alp.9672
      @alp.9672 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@themediamarauder1582 wow 1990-2010?! Impressive. Where were you located?

  • @utopiabaseball6756
    @utopiabaseball6756 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kudos to this card shop. Love the Portland Mavericks baseball cap. :)

  • @beoteo4230
    @beoteo4230 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’d be broke if I lived near this place

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol Beo.

  • @jojofreelancer1210
    @jojofreelancer1210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That baseball scenario so true,I've bought a few cards of some of my home team guys who go on a tear and sell 1 for price I got all 4 or 5

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching! We appreciate you!

  • @jeffreyg5718
    @jeffreyg5718 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’m from here in Bellingham and I’ve bought from this shop before--very nice people. This video inspired me to consider opening a shop and becoming a friendly competitor. Thanks for the information 😊 👍

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very cool Jeff! Glad you enjoyed the video and maybe we will be interviewing you some day :) Keep us updated on your business journey.

  • @mrfcardart
    @mrfcardart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    tough time to start a business at the very peak of the hype (2020), during the delusional period of this new market. if you pull 750k in the 2nd year ill be impressed. the market is correcting itself and return to hobby status very soon.

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mr F Card Art thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts! What did you think about the National Sports Card Convention being the biggest and best its ever been last week?

    • @mrfcardart
      @mrfcardart 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UpFlip the NSCC is always a plus for the hobby :))) the pictures we interesting to look at for sure :))) not much color at all, unfortunately :))) 90% adults not masked up and 90% of kids wearing masks :)) seems like a lot of people were ready to get out of the house after a year and a half of not traveling and/or congregating :))) thats just what I see, i know others look and see things i dont.

    • @RetroGameBros
      @RetroGameBros 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im very curious to see what theyll be like in five years. They started a shop during the height of the recent card market. Plenty of shops in the 90s did well until the market crashed and they were left in the dust.

    • @alp.9672
      @alp.9672 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RetroGameBros yea no hate but this is not going to last. They capitalized off the new hype.

  • @jakestoe
    @jakestoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I live in Eastern Washington, I'll have to make a stop when I'm on that side of the state next time!

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the support jakestoe. Is this your first time on the channel?

  • @brandonmcfarland28
    @brandonmcfarland28 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is amazing. Congrats on the success!

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much Brandon!! We appreciate your support of the channel and your local card shop (lcs). What is the name of your favorite LCS?

    • @brandonmcfarland28
      @brandonmcfarland28 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UpFlip unfortunately I have not found one in the North Dallas area. Used to buy a lot of retail but seems to be impossible now!

  • @humbertovallejo6962
    @humbertovallejo6962 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congrats to thus Great couple. Thank you for the advice.

  • @coltsfancolts
    @coltsfancolts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Basically just crack boxes while the sports bubble happens. Will be interesting to see what happens to them in the future.

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very good point about the sports card industry staryeyed. Only time will tell about the comics, video games, mtg and sports cards market. Thanks for watching and sharing interest in our business interview TH-cam channel!

    • @LITMOVIESCENES
      @LITMOVIESCENES 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UpFlip cards are the most volatile ..comics and games dont go down

    • @TachibanaTengoku
      @TachibanaTengoku 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LITMOVIESCENES They did dip quite a bit the last month or two, but it's still WAY above what it was 2019 and even most of 2020.

  • @comicguyenator
    @comicguyenator 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not all rainbows and roses having a store. I used to own a shop but closed it cuz the rent just kept going up. It is true what he says how building relationships with your customers will gain loyal customers. But owning a shop was like being married to the business. And owning a card shop was like owning a money pit!! Where does all the money go???? It was always, "Make that sale!!", cuz you got more inventory on the way from your pre-orders. Sure, you might gross a lot of money, but your profits are razor thin because of competition. Owning a card shop is a young man's game. I just sell online nowadays, and its way easier and less headache and heartache. Selling online has less overhead. One advantage owning a card shop has is that you have a place that people can sell you stuff. That's probably the best thing for card shop owners. But you have to have a lot money. Good video. Thank you for sharing.

    • @vinegarpisser2992
      @vinegarpisser2992 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate your insight. I found this video because I was looking for info on what the mark ups are on boxes. Any chance you know how much cases and boxes cost from the distributors? Sure the box sells for 100, 200, or 300 a piece but what is the store making off a sales like that?

  • @ThatsSoooHood
    @ThatsSoooHood 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Awesome local sports card store (LCS) and story Jim and Stacy. I will be calling to order some packs here shortly :) Thanks for sharing.

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Let us know what you get in the sports cards packs Matt!

    • @deeross3034
      @deeross3034 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UpFlip if you sell loose hobby packs I'll be ordering some as well..I collect cards mostly..Very hard to get me to sell Anything from my collection..

    • @turfdirtsportscards5428
      @turfdirtsportscards5428 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@deeross3034 We do sell packs, usually do our personal rips on instagram but also call the store and we can ship you packs too.

    • @turfdirtsportscards5428
      @turfdirtsportscards5428 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your order and can't wait to hear what you pull!

  • @eddiecuevas8439
    @eddiecuevas8439 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was an awesome video. Thank you for sharing.

  • @josesolorio8622
    @josesolorio8622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Need to visit this shop!!!

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jim would love to have you stop by and support the local card store (LCS) Jose! Thanks for all your support for our channel as well, we appreciate you.

  • @SimplyTastyCo
    @SimplyTastyCo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So proud of how far along you've all come

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We appreciate the kind words Simply and have big plans for the future so stay tuned! Our new podcast is coming out soon!

  • @itzdm0r3
    @itzdm0r3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this story, definitely gives me something to aspire to with my own business.

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yay! Glad to hear it. What type of business do you have?

    • @itzdm0r3
      @itzdm0r3 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UpFlip I buy and sell collectibles, trading cards, and comics. I'm also a music publisher.

  • @Pullwax
    @Pullwax 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love what you are doing! Keep it up

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate it!

  • @matthewallan1992
    @matthewallan1992 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great channel make a few segments on the mediocre business that are succeeding it would be great to have a comparison between the top earners and the top like these guys.

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We will add these ideas to the production development list Matthew. Thanks for the suggestions and channel support!

  • @4O4sports
    @4O4sports ปีที่แล้ว

    So cool! Glad to see the shops doing well!

  • @markdelaney8092
    @markdelaney8092 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like Barone sanitation, or the Bada-Bing, a side hustle is necessary to crack a profit...

  • @olivierauberger
    @olivierauberger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another killer video. So inspiring for a small eBay video game reseller like me.

  • @riccirenna
    @riccirenna 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Congrats on success. I love your work ethic. It is motivating

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks a lot Ricci! We appreciate your support.

  • @movieclipsforthevibes
    @movieclipsforthevibes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Solid prices too. Lots of local shops out there beat customers over the head. Great video!

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Turf and Dirt sports cards is an example of a business that cares about its customers and the sports card hobby.

  • @cirocking850
    @cirocking850 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video in actually in the process of opening a shop this helped me out a lot

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for being here!

  • @brandonb235
    @brandonb235 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video all-around! Great questions, great responses.

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We really glad you think so Brandon. We appreciate the support. 😀👍Are you a collector?

  • @davediaz5447
    @davediaz5447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow! great content...keep up the great work. And yes new subscriber !!

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome aboard Dave! Thanks for supporting the channel, we appreciate you.

  • @knowledgeispower9202
    @knowledgeispower9202 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that Topps shirt is epic. I need one of each color in my life now.

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jimmy's Topps shirt is incredible. Did you see the Topps booth at the National Sports Card Convention this year Knowledge? It was very impressive.

  • @jrjohnson135
    @jrjohnson135 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a "winning the lottery" type of situation and should be celebrated, but not something others should try to replicate at this point. His business is only bringing in that much bc of the value and demand for cards right now. This can and probably will die down greatly when "live gets back to normal blah blah" or when the general public just loses interest again, and things go back to normal pre pandemic level pricing and sales. This is amazing this guy was set up for this and hopefully he is smart with what he is making now and invests it wisely, but for someone to try to start from scratch now and start making good money, they'd almost assuredly lose a good amount of their start up funds. It could work if you can last a while and hold on to smart investment cards but this is way to risky for regular people to get into if they can't financially take the hit and still be ok, but then again, that should be the truth for most ventures in life

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good point, but we believe with enough hard work any business can be successful which is why we encourage everyone to never give up! :) Thank you for your comment.

    • @jrjohnson135
      @jrjohnson135 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UpFlip that a very dangerous me reality to try and peddle to people. You should definitely be willing to give up and close down if you are in a no win situation and you keep burning money. You should change that motto to being smarter and more educated in entering opportunities than just the age old hard work and dedication

  • @pharlapnz4630
    @pharlapnz4630 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congratulations 👏 mate outstanding video! Regards from New Zealand 🇳🇿

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much 😀

  • @bjorgenson5595
    @bjorgenson5595 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Before I joined the Navy I was huge into this stuff.

  • @jimvujimvu835
    @jimvujimvu835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow, nice sports cards shop and it’s so nice video clip, thanks

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for visiting Jim! What are your favorite sports cards to collect? Are you into any other collectibles?

  • @Jv-fn5xg
    @Jv-fn5xg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This card shop looks awesome! Cool couple too! Keep it up!

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lets all wish this local sports card store (lcs) Turf and Dirt the very best.

  • @bensayers6904
    @bensayers6904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Congrats on your success 👏 love the store and it seems like you work very hard are humble and provide a great service to the community. I wish you were in Cleveland man I would stop in all the time. Question? Do you still have that signed gale Sayers jersey hanging up? If so how much are you asking?

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for watching! We appreciate you!

  • @kronozioplatform1537
    @kronozioplatform1537 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! Congrats! I love those guys, they are so true! Take care!

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We do too!

  • @williammcmurtrie871
    @williammcmurtrie871 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seam like good people working hard. Great video!

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They are William! Thanks for commenting and supporting the channel and your local card shop (lcs).

  • @McNuttDickerson
    @McNuttDickerson ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Too bad this guys shop ended up being a scam for PSA group submissions

  • @forrestperry8262
    @forrestperry8262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Started with 10k & 5k in the bank.. It’s just unbelievable!.. like I actually think they’re lying. What about CC debt?

  • @chonger
    @chonger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    love to see small businesses succeeding especially cuz covid was tough on a lot of them!

    • @UpFlip
      @UpFlip  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally agree chonger! What is your favorite local small business near where you live?

    • @chonger
      @chonger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@UpFlip there’s a food truck in Vancouver called frying pan… probably one of the best fried chicken sandwiches in town. I’ve gone there in a few of my vlogs.

  • @scottl9984
    @scottl9984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Easy to see why they are making so much money. The markup they are selling packs and boxes looks excessive! Can’t believe people are repeat customers. But it’s their money. And that’s in store. Probably a lot worse for online breaking.