Rocks to Avoid Tumbling

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ธ.ค. 2021
  • Do you ever wonder which rocks you should pick up on the beach and which ones you should leave behind? In this video, I'll show you how I decide which rocks would probably not do well in a rock tumbler. Then I'll tumble those poor choices so you can see how rocks like those will turn out.
    Thanks to Christina Jelinek for doing the closed captions for this video. If you would like to help out with the closed captions, let me know.
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  • @gjackson6569
    @gjackson6569 2 ปีที่แล้ว +355

    It was funny that as I watched you reveal the tumbled rocks, I thought that even with the pitting and undercutting, that many of them looked great to me. Then when you pulled in the ones you showed as examples of great tumbling results, it was clear what you look for in your final product and the other ones clearly didn't measure up. Great video.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Yeah, I like my rocks REALLY shiny.

    • @guard13007
      @guard13007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Exact same reaction. I was like "Okay, he's just too picky." until I saw the good rocks.

    • @Silvercanth
      @Silvercanth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That's how people that get into art and stuff fall for the Dunning-Kruger effect (if you don't know what that is I'd very much suggest looking it up. It's fascinating and I'd be surprised if it doesn't make you recall people you've met in your life) but you are clearly too smart for that, good job. I had the exact same reaction you did. :P

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Silvercanth I had to look that one up. I can think of many things in my life where as soon as I started learning about it, I realized that the subject was much, much deeper than I realized before.

    • @Silvercanth
      @Silvercanth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@MichiganRocks Any day where you learn something is a successful day. I'm glad to have played a part in you learning something neat.

  • @paigey-poo4235
    @paigey-poo4235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Fir me the allure of tumbling has never been about making the rocks look “perfect” but to just see the potential of the rock’s character, to see what unique qualities you can bring out of a piece! And a lot of the rocks here are perfect examples! Sure, everybody and their brother has shiny rocks, but finding and working something into a one of a kind palmful of art? That’s my goal!
    There’s certain qualities of the rock you can’t see unless you break it, tumble it, etc!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I enjoy the process of tumbling more than the finished product. But for me, the challenge is to make them look as perfect as I can. I realize that not everyone has the same goal as I do. The problem is that I tend to show only those perfect examples on my channel. I thought people should know that not all rocks turn out perfect.

    • @blackcat14077
      @blackcat14077 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sums up my thoughts perfectly!

  • @samh1403
    @samh1403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    I thought those rocks were looking pretty great out of the lot-o... until you compared them to your typical insanely perfect rocks. It really helped back up you're reasoning for being so picky about the rocks you start with and you're entire process. I'm a big time believer in your methods. You've really helped me out a lot in my first year of tumbling. Thanks for all the help you've been in your videos and on the forum.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm glad you find the videos helpful, Sam. Until you start tumbling, I think it's hard to understand that some rocks polish up great and others don't. Hopefully this helped clear that up.

    • @t2gunner
      @t2gunner ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MichiganRocks I've heard the advice, but the visual drives it to understanding... #RockOn

    • @kokosnood
      @kokosnood ปีที่แล้ว

      I based my whole tumbling method on Rob's videos. THANKS ROB!

  • @R.M.MacFru
    @R.M.MacFru 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Well, I have just learned I'm not as much of a magpie as I thought. 😆
    While the batch is not as shiny as your usual, I still think the tumbling was worth it for the color and patterns, particularly the one with the crystal pockets. (This is probably why I love geodes so much.)
    I was happily shocked that the specular hematite stayed intact. I was expecting glittery slurry. And on the one with the big hole...I like the contrast that tumbling created. The hole is the most interesting part of that rock, and the contrast makes it pop out, so to speak.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I generally don't like holes of any kind, but I do like a large hole if it's full of crystals. I have seen some spheres that have half the rock missing completely that look really cool. I also like crystal hole in a cab sometimes.

  • @Rocking-SLC
    @Rocking-SLC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +216

    Hey Rob, what a great demonstration showing some rocks are just not tumble-worthy. Some are perfect just they way they are such as the brachiopods. Others just turn out really disappointing in the end. Thanks for helping your viewers avoid tumbling pitfalls and have a happy and prosperous new year.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Happy New Year, Earl. I think you have to tumble a few bad rocks yourself to really get the feel for which ones to pick up, but hopefully this speeds up the learning process a little.

    • @nikkiloves78
      @nikkiloves78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm stuck in a condo in Southern CA & I'm loving these vids! I have a 5lb bucket with my collection of raw crystal rocks which I would love to tumble. I hope my year ends more like your year begun! 💖✨

  • @gwynnfarrell1856
    @gwynnfarrell1856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    Sometimes a rockhound has just got to see what happens in the tumbler. You never know what might become an unexpected gem! Thank you for showing each rock as it progressed. I like that you included the Christmas ornaments as controls. Very educational!
    Happy New Year! 🎉

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I'm hoping this helps a few people. I get a lot of questions about what rocks should be picked up on the beach.

  • @desertflamingos
    @desertflamingos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Even though I have been picking rocks up my entire life, I am brand new to the tumbling world. I have seen so many of the “perfect tumble” videos it is hard to picture a bad tumble. This was very educational. Thank you!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Good, I’m glad my failure has been helpful.

  • @sparband
    @sparband 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I think that my favorite was the sparkly hematite. I liked the stink stone because it was different. They came out better than I thought too. I love the colors of the granite. It’s too bad that it undercuts.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think granite is probably the most collected rock by beginner rock hunters. There's nothing wrong with that. I did the same thing. But after tumbling a few batches of it, I stopped picking it up.

  • @clwbchbabycakes
    @clwbchbabycakes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    That first fossil - I would have oiled that like I do seashells. It brings out the color without damaging the piece since those don't need to be shiny. Things that look good wet but not dry - like Petosky stones - can be oiled. The holes with the druzy crystal are awesome!!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes, I have some rough Lake Superior agates that I keep oiled. I don't oil my Petokseys though, I like those just polished.

    • @KristiStClair64
      @KristiStClair64 ปีที่แล้ว

      What kind of oil do you use? They don't go rancid?

    • @clwbchbabycakes
      @clwbchbabycakes ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KristiStClair64 baby oil. You can also use lighter fluid, which is a thinner form of oil.

  • @johnsopko24
    @johnsopko24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I live in Michigan. I found a dirt road that the city laid gravel on and it's loaded with every color quarts Greenstone and about every gem Michigan has. I also have found alot of emeralds in gravel around here. I love rock collecting in Michigan.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow, that sounds like some unbelievable gravel.

    • @elenap15227
      @elenap15227 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A fellow gravel enthusiast! Your Michigan gravel sounds amazing. i only find agate here.

    • @orirune3079
      @orirune3079 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wait did you just say you found emeralds in gravel? What 🤯?? I need to start searching gravel more I guess.

  • @txwaterbird6115
    @txwaterbird6115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Just catching up on rock tumbling videos and your stink stone caught my eye. I actually like it. Those holes give it an interesting look. If I were tumbling it, I would use my water pic to blast out those holes. That's much quicker than a sewing needle. This process only works because my husband and I each have our own water pic. He would not appreciate it if I used a shared tooth implement on rocks.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I lot of people have suggested both Waterpiks and ultrasonic cleaners. I might need to get one or the other.

  • @oldhaggys
    @oldhaggys 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love stones with contrasts on them. Different textures, different colors, different angles and so on. Therefore i love the granit, the stinkstone, the omar. Also I would probably love the granits if they are bigger so I can use them for sensory / fidget stones. The undercutting gives that contrast when you fidget with them

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's not that I don't like these rocks. It's that they don't polish the same as the beach rocks that I usually show here. I wanted to do a video showing that not every rock on the beach will tumble the same way.

  • @kotabear0172
    @kotabear0172 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    8:23 you cut it in kind of the shape of a cloud. It really matches with the coloring of the rock too. Really pretty

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's a super pretty rock. Too bad it's so soft.

  • @thomasnaas2813
    @thomasnaas2813 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Love your casual, experimental approach. I've run into rocks that don't tumble well, I sometimes use a dremel with buffing wheels and diamond grit to good effect. For the porous stones I mix stone powder of similar hardness with slow drying epoxy, submerge the rocks and stick them in a vacuum pump container for thirty minutes and remove them before it hardens. Tumble on!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I've never tried stabilizing rocks with epoxy (or anything else). I do realize that some of these could be worked on a cab machine or some other sort of grinder with better results. There's more than one way to polish a rock!

  • @ethankoh6851
    @ethankoh6851 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Having the attention span of a slanted kitchen shelf, I'm amazed that I went through the whole video, great narration

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had never thought too much about the attention span of shelves, slanted or not.

  • @katiewood6036
    @katiewood6036 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The sandstone may not polish but big pieces look great in an aquarium. Cherry shrimp love picking microfauna off the rough surface. It was interesting to see how they tumbled.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That one came out of the tumbler pretty much how it went it, but smaller. I agree that some rocks can look great even if they don't tumble well.

  • @staceysakkinen1270
    @staceysakkinen1270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I thought they came out great. I really liked the Omar rock, with the contrast from the shine to the dull hole. Thanks for showing us.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, that one was pretty neat.

    • @staceysakkinen1270
      @staceysakkinen1270 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MichiganRocks although you were right about those rocks not doing as well as the other batch you showed us which was absolutely gorgeous.

    • @mlroeder
      @mlroeder 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is my favourite as well, I think because the rest of it shined up so well that the hole comes across to me like it's deliberate. A feature, not a bug, as it were.

  • @salishseaquest7952
    @salishseaquest7952 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Rob, this was actually very informative. I appreciate all the time you devoted to getting us through the process on all the underrated rocks. It's many weeks of tumbling. I think for the most part you were right because you know what you like -- beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder and the one who is running the tumblers. Happy New Year to you and Nancy!

  • @adamschaafsma5839
    @adamschaafsma5839 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm so glad you did this, it makes me feel like it's harder to mess up, and I feel more encouraged to just dive in and tumble.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's hard to mess up tumbling too bad. Even if you have a batch that doesn't turn out like you'd like, you can always run them over again. Think of any mistakes you make along the way as learning experiences. I've learned a lot in the past ten years or so.

  • @k8eekatt
    @k8eekatt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are a great teacher! Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks and you're welcome!

  • @katherinehanna3968
    @katherinehanna3968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Loved seeing the before During and after tumbling. I haved collected some smaller pieces that I want to use as wearables, pendants and dangling accessories including earrings, belts, and ties or lacing, many of these are small peanuts or jelly bean sizes in colors from icy white, cool blues/grays, and warm orange/ peachy colors, flattering against skin

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds like you're going to make some nice stuff!

  • @CroneFingrCraft
    @CroneFingrCraft 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That shiny grey stone with the big rough indent is gorgeous with the two different textures! I would use it as a stress stone😁

  • @joannmay-anthony1076
    @joannmay-anthony1076 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    as a rock enthusiast, i like the imperfections. shiny is really nice, but the imperfections are a great looking contrast!

  • @ashb3496
    @ashb3496 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really appreciate you making this video. It is helpful to know what to look for and avoid when beach combing. Thank you for doing the trial and error so that we can have better shines!
    Happy new year!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have done a lot of the trial and error more unintentionally in the past. I get questions about what to pick up, so I thought this might be helpful.

  • @richardbidinger2577
    @richardbidinger2577 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think the Omar turned out awesome. The contrast gives it a cool look. After seeing your well polished stones, I can understand you being a little biased. You do great tumbling work.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, Richard. I figure if I'm going to spend a ton of time tumbling rocks, I want them to look as good as possible. I'd rather be picky before tumbling than disappointed after.

  • @midlifetravelers6151
    @midlifetravelers6151 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I love this tutorial, Professor, I am learning the names of the rocks because of you taking the time to identify them in their raw form. Sometimes my rock and mineral identification books don't give a good picture example. Your video definitely does!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I wish I knew how to identify more of them, but I do what I can. I'm glad it's helping you out.

  • @leannesutter9429
    @leannesutter9429 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you, Rob for taking the time to demonstrate this. It gave me a better understanding and will help me to make the decisions with how I clean and polish my Great Lakes finds. I appreciate your explanations on why you prefer polishing certain rocks, how you grade the finished rock/fossil at each stage of the process and the challenges you had with some of them.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I get questions fairly often about what rocks should be picked up. The short answer is that you should pick up whatever looks good to you. But that answer doesn't help too much if you're planning to tumble them. I'm glad you found this useful, that's what I was going for.

  • @UncertainEarth
    @UncertainEarth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the great video! I love your demeaner and the way you explain everything, no filler, just information.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks. I don't like a bunch of fluff most of the time either.

  • @WagonPilotAdventures
    @WagonPilotAdventures 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great video for beginning tumblers to show how different rocks turn out. I think a lot of people start with very high expectations due to rock tumbler advertising pictures. I still tumble a lot of granite since it's plentiful near my house, which makes it easy to experiment and fine tune my methods. Keep up the good work!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have you figured out a way to stop the undercutting?

    • @WagonPilotAdventures
      @WagonPilotAdventures 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@MichiganRocks Not yet. Granite patterns are so random. I'm just getting back into tumbling after several months off, but I do have two 1lb Nat Geo tumblers now. Going to run some days/grit tests as soon as I finish some pudding stones. Starting to film too.

  • @ohhadivist
    @ohhadivist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I got a beginner tumbler last year and I’m really excited to go down to the river and see what rocks I can find once the weather warms up. I don’t think I’ll be so picky but this video gave me a lot to think about when choosing rocks.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You don't have to be so picky. I didn't start out that way. The thing is, I show a lot of rocks that are much more perfect than these. I thought I should show examples of rocks that don't turn out the same as what I usually show here.

  • @rebeccaofsunnybrookefarm8469
    @rebeccaofsunnybrookefarm8469 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for taking the time to teach us the why behind your choices...
    Nice job.

  • @communitypark2313
    @communitypark2313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What an enjoyable & informative way to spend New Year's Eve!
    Thanks so much for sharing, Rob.
    Here's to a Happy, Healthy New Year🎉🎆 & many more Rocky Shores to traverse!!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Happy New Year! I'm glad you liked the video.

  • @denisemurray412
    @denisemurray412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great explanation, teacher. You've still got the touch. I have always gotten much information from your videos. I wonder if the 'iffy batch' would transform more with a polish up from the wheel. Could you take them one step further and show us that?

  • @leolamcconnell9872
    @leolamcconnell9872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm new to tumbling and I count on you and your methods to receive a "good education". I think you're a natural teacher, I've learned, tumbled and practiced my happy dance. Thank you (a million times) for your efforts.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow, I'm glad you've found my videos so helpful! Thanks for the nice comment!

  • @Shadowhurtz
    @Shadowhurtz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do admire someone who's not afraid of admitting he can be wrong.
    Plus pretty rocks.
    You got yourself a subscriber.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm wrong a lot. No point in pretending I know everything.

  • @tbrooks6404
    @tbrooks6404 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks MR, you are always so informative.

  • @KatyDidRocks
    @KatyDidRocks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for the excellent explanation of the difference between porphyry and amygdaloidal crystals!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I always get those mixed up.

    • @CityRockhounding
      @CityRockhounding 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, very helpful and cool to know.

  • @erinharrington4232
    @erinharrington4232 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm really excited to watch this when I get a minute! I've been sorting my collection lately so I can finally try tumbling my first batch - definitely going to be rewatching your older videos!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I hope this is helpful. I learned by trial and error and I might be able to save you a little of the error. However, I think that tumbling a few bad rocks is the way you'll really learn the best, so don't feel bad if they don't all turn out great.

  • @santadam
    @santadam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great to see this, thank you! It helped explain some of my more dull batches. Loved seeing your favs at the end!

  • @lynschultz513
    @lynschultz513 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good lesson on tumbling and what rocks to choose to get the best results.

  • @kylaabegglen1275
    @kylaabegglen1275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You crack me up Rob! I was 😂 pretty hard when you asked if it was weird that you were disappointed that those turned out better than you thought.😆 You really do an excellent job of tumbling, probably the best results I've seen. So being picky makes a positive difference for sure. I love that beautiful banded chert you polished, wow!🤩 Thank you for an awesome explanation and demonstration on what rocks not to tumble and why. I hope you and your family have a very happy and amazing New Year!✌🤠

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was afraid that this video got a little long, but without talking about why they didn't do well, there wouldn't be much point. I'm glad you found it helpful.

    • @kylaabegglen1275
      @kylaabegglen1275 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MichiganRocks I liked it and didn't even notice it was a bit longer because I was really paying attention to the info. It was full of great information! I love learning from you TH-cam Rock Stars! Thanks!😊

  • @Indyanas_ocean_view
    @Indyanas_ocean_view 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Super awesome video! On quite a few of those rocks the imperfections are hard to notice unless they are pointed out. I was surprised that the crumbling gray hematite rock got as shiny as it did .😍🥰😇👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was really surprised by the hematite too. I'm not sure how something that crumbly doesn't just fall apart.

    • @Indyanas_ocean_view
      @Indyanas_ocean_view 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MichiganRocks I thought it would just turn to dust and disintegrate. 😍🥰😇👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @CityRockhounding
    @CityRockhounding 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really cool video Rob. It's nice to see a video like this. Thanks for sharing the journey.
    I know how long it takes to polish rocks, and planning a video ahead of time through the process, it's takes some work for sure, I appreciate it.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had to plan ahead to collect all these crumby rocks!

  • @UtrechterK
    @UtrechterK ปีที่แล้ว

    I live in Flint, I love digging up rocks and I just found your page and wanted to say thank you for all of the videos! Super helpful!

  • @tinacluff2793
    @tinacluff2793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like the omar one, the flat one I can see turned into a pendant, the red one with the crystals was cool, love the yellow one, the black one looked like a galaxy (you said it was kind of crumbly), the big black and crystal one was my second favorite. Still love your Christmas ornaments.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow, it seems like you liked almost all of them!

    • @tinacluff2793
      @tinacluff2793 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MichiganRocks hehe, what can I say I love rocks

  • @mr.ramjangles5165
    @mr.ramjangles5165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Any tips for tumbling labradorite? I have a rock tumbler in my classroom. The second graders love it! Just found you today…great video! ✅👍🏻

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I haven't tried it, but I have some ordered. I have only read about people failing at tumbling it, I haven't found any success stories. Maybe I'll have some advice at some point.

  • @SmallWonda
    @SmallWonda 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So many pretty rocks - thanks for taking the time to show why some could be disappointing when tumbled - bearing in mind they take so much time & energy to polish... Happy New Year!

  • @jneihart2
    @jneihart2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent way to finish off the year.... with a video from the rock tumbler extraordinaire! Thank you for a great year of fantastic viewing pleasure! Happy New Year to you and all your family!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're welcome. I'm glad you enjoy my videos. I appreciate all the comments too. Happy New Year!

  • @carolinesmith1971
    @carolinesmith1971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just started tumbling rocks and your videos have been so helpful! I’m curious about what would happen if you were to skip the grit stages with petoskey stones and went straight to the polishing stage. Would they just look the same as they do when they’re wet?

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No, the polish stage is what usually damages Petoskeys more than any other stage (except maybe the 500 stage). It's really hard to tumble Petoskey stones. I have a couple methods that work pretty well. I'll put a link to one here, and the other one will be shown in a future video. Actually, here are four ways to do it:
      How to Hand Polish a Petoskey Stone: th-cam.com/video/sjImNrwR9As/w-d-xo.html
      How to Partially Tumble a Petoskey Stone: th-cam.com/video/IBRq7dPD0Lk/w-d-xo.html
      Petoskey Stones in Corn Cob Media: th-cam.com/video/grSlZ835VDo/w-d-xo.html
      Polishing Petoskeys on a cabbing machine: th-cam.com/video/ZWVidWu9LYY/w-d-xo.html

  • @tashacano3324
    @tashacano3324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was definitely an interesting watch. I only used a rock tumbler once when I was a teenager. I dumped the slurry down the drain😅 Let's just say my parents never let me get rocks to do more than the one batch😂

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oops, that could be a costly mistake.

    • @tashacano3324
      @tashacano3324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MichiganRocks It was lol they had to redo the plumbing in our bathroom. Luckily we were living in a trailer house at the time and at least it was easier to get to🤣

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You should have watched this video: th-cam.com/video/j-356YqFox8/w-d-xo.html

    • @tashacano3324
      @tashacano3324 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MichiganRocks I was in high school so it was a while back lol definitely pre youtube😂

  • @immaculateconnection
    @immaculateconnection 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just love your channel. I've been a rock nerd since I was a kid, and now I've gotten into rockhounding, and find myself eyeing lapidary as the next piece of the hobby. :D Your videos are interesting and educational without being intimidating at all! Thanks so much for all the work you put in and the information you share!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm glad you're enjoying the videos, Mike. I started with a tumbler and now I have six rock saws, a huge tumbler, a cab machine, two flat laps and other stuff too. Be careful! The good news is, a lot of this stuff can be found used. All of my saws are used.

  • @segamble1679
    @segamble1679 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I learned so much from this video!!! Just starting tumbling, and just learning what most of the rocks I've been collecting are called was super helpful!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's great! You might like this:
      th-cam.com/video/wOCWaZLAVhA/w-d-xo.html
      Be sure to watch the follow up video with the answers.

  • @azdigger4843
    @azdigger4843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your crazy? BWAHAHAHAHA! We are all crazy, after all we walk around looking at rocks all the time.

  • @cynthiahappel3697
    @cynthiahappel3697 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I completely agree with you about the tumbling of certain rocks. Nice demo. Thanks

  • @katecarpenter7366
    @katecarpenter7366 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Rob, always learn something new from you.

  • @dylan-cv9il
    @dylan-cv9il 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    hey rob, so i’m a beginner for tumbling completely, i’m gonna order one of the national geographic tumblers the hobby edition one, as you said in your review the polish is really bad, so i figured i’d get that separately. i found one that looks okay and i wanted your take on it, for step one it’s silicon carbide F80, step two is silicon carbide F220, step 3 is silicon carbide F400, and finally instead of aluminium oxide is ‘pumice powder’, i remember you saying that aluminium oxide is really good for step 3 and 4 so should i go for a different one?

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have never heard of using pumice powder for a polish. I also strongly recommend that you use aluminum oxide as your prepolish. I have a link to the Rock Shed in the description. That’s where I buy my stuff. i also buy from Kingsley North for coarse grit. That link is also in the description.

  • @txwaterbird6115
    @txwaterbird6115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My bete noir is ruby in zoisite. I know there's a way to tumble it and get a shine. My brother-in-law who is a geologist collects spheres and has a beautiful shiny one.
    The problem for me is that I keep trying to polish it (ruby in zoisite) over and over again.
    So if you have any ideas, I hope someone out there might have a hint or 2. 🙏
    Thanks for the video. As always, yours are fun and informative.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I have only seen pictures of that, never tumbled it myself. I just looked up the two minerals and found that zoisite is 6-7 and ruby is 9 on the Mohs scale. I think that's your problem. Silicon carbide and aluminum oxide are both 9 also, so they're going to have a hard time with the ruby, but will easily wear the zoisite. That's going to cause undercutting, or uneven wear on the two different minerals.
      Your brother in law's sphere was not tumbled. It was probably ground with diamond grinding cups. Some rocks will turn out much better on a cabbing machine or some sort of grinder than they will in a tumbler.

  • @BonnieLegion
    @BonnieLegion 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoyed seeing the contrast between the not so good rocks and the really nice ones, really showed your point well. bless love your videos, they are helping

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good, that's what I was hoping for. I didn't want people thinking that just any rocks they pick up on the beach were going to tumble equally well.

  • @reiki11
    @reiki11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Such character!!!
    Loved it 💕

  • @tonys.5940
    @tonys.5940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So based on the results, are you more likely to try tumbling questionable rocks or stick with your previous hunches?

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm comfortable with the decisions I've been making. I guess if I find something really cool, I might be a bit more likely to take it home and give it a try. Overall, I think I predicted pretty well here.

  • @The_red_finger
    @The_red_finger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The algorithim strikes again who else found themselves here by accident lol

  • @Star_Rattler
    @Star_Rattler 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thoroughly enjoyed watching and listening to you explain. I love learning about interests of mine and I've always loved collecting cool rocks ever since I was little. Thanks for putting the time in to make this video. I'll watch some of your others as well, and I subbed. I always love people who pursue their passions and hobbies like this, it's really inspiring. I want to go to the beach now but Long Island Sound doesn't have the best samples.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Michigan isn't great for rock hunting this time of the year either. The water is better when it's liquid.

    • @Star_Rattler
      @Star_Rattler 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MichiganRocks Hahaha lol I would imagine XD thanks for replying, you're super cool! I hope u find cool rocks soon!

  • @dianaswett6397
    @dianaswett6397 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how unique all the stones are.

  • @wyomingadventures
    @wyomingadventures 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I appreciate your educational tumbling videos! Thanks Rob.

  • @katiedid713926
    @katiedid713926 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You know what, I really like how you gave every single rock the benefit of the doubt. I'm serious, you had me rooting for all the rocks. A very fair breakdown of those beauties. And i like it you're a perfectionist so we can appreciate the contrast. Thanks. Happy New Year!!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I felt sorry for some of those rocks, so I had to be nice to them.

    • @katiedid713926
      @katiedid713926 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MichiganRocks you're hilarious🤣🤣

  • @SherryAustinMcginley
    @SherryAustinMcginley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a good video! We all draw our line in the sand at different places so what’s good for some won’t be good for others. I tend to agree with you and like the smoother, shiny rocks the best.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Welcome to team smooth and shiny!

  • @MrHooves89
    @MrHooves89 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have an awesome channel. I took your advice and checked out Pilgrim Haven a few months ago. Came home with some great finds. Thanks for putting so much work into the videos. Keep up the good work. Happy new year.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm glad you're finding the videos helpful. Happy New Year!

  • @kimfrommn7162
    @kimfrommn7162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting!! I'm starting to catch on!! It was neat to see how they turned out!! I like the rocks real shiny and perfect like you do. But all the rocks that were just tumbled, I liked them also!!! Thanks for taking out the time to show us!! Happy Happy New Year!! May the two of you have only good things coming your way!! 🤗❤️❤️🙏🏼🎄

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some of this stuff is best learned by actually trying things yourself. I think making your own mistakes is one of the best ways to learn. Hopefully this helps out just a little.
      Happy New Year, Kim!

  • @insp7
    @insp7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank younsomjuch for taking the time to demonstrate the difference between good quality and low quality rock type
    Your teaching chops shine!

  • @marybethprinkey2635
    @marybethprinkey2635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These are all very lovely I believe that the hematite would make a beautiful statement piece as a necklace

  • @reebee4237
    @reebee4237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, excellent good, better, best examples. Love your tumbling cabinet.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

  • @ripadipaflipa4672
    @ripadipaflipa4672 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I grew up on Lake Superior and enjoy Ur channel partly to reminiscing over the rocks I can’t find in FL 😂 I really like it when U say the rocks point of origin and type of rocks Ur using plz keep it up
    Thank!

  • @berjo77
    @berjo77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good Morning Rob, and Happy New Year! Yet another great teaching piece of work, most appreciated! I’m watching the H. F. sales for their vibratory tumbler, the 18 pound unit is the only one in stock but that’s too much machine. I now have their “medium” wet saw, so I’ll gain a bit more control prepping wonkie rocks. Thanks again, until the next one!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't think Harbor Freight sells a vibratory tumbler for rocks. I'm pretty sure they're all designed for metal and dry media. If so, the barrels and/or motors won't hold up to the weight of rocks.

    • @berjo77
      @berjo77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MichiganRocks Yes, after I mentioned it, I read more, they don’t easily perform well, some leak and seldom hold up. I’ll keep looking and studying. Wait till I can pick up a real rock unit.

  • @jordanstevens3
    @jordanstevens3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I liked the explanations you gave along with what your expectations where

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. I'm not always right, but at least you know what's going on in my head.

  • @gregbickford1341
    @gregbickford1341 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great info as usual thanks Rob

  • @benjilee5279
    @benjilee5279 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wait! What?!? It turned out so, so good! And your editing was Magical!!! Great job!

  • @paigelee6321
    @paigelee6321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always good Information to share thank you 😊

  • @katherinehanna3968
    @katherinehanna3968 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really love speckled pups, the more spots the better, esp. Pink and bright blues and greens

  • @LaurenChurch
    @LaurenChurch ปีที่แล้ว

    I've got my first batch tumbling of random rocks! I've learned a lot from your videos, so thanks!

  • @harperlee6806
    @harperlee6806 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for all that you do!

  • @jacquelinejones823
    @jacquelinejones823 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We just got a tumbler for the kids and I to work with! I’m excited to get started. We do NOT know enough about rocks yet. But we will learn as we go!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You don't need to know too much, just get started and see what happens. If the rocks don't get shiny, you can run them again and you will have learned something. I have several videos on how to tumble, just in case you missed them. Pick the one that most closely matches your situation:
      Rotary tumbler followed by vibratory tumbler: th-cam.com/video/ksrmpPZrAuU/w-d-xo.html
      Rotary tumbler with ceramics: th-cam.com/video/dYGFal0e1WY/w-d-xo.html
      Rotary tumbler with plastic pellets: th-cam.com/video/EnNvywwztr8/w-d-xo.html
      How to use a Nat Geo Tumbler: th-cam.com/video/CsTc1kXUuPo/w-d-xo.html
      Tumbling beach rocks in a Nat Geo tumbler: th-cam.com/video/_Vmm24Fc7j4/w-d-xo.html

  • @rockreader4298
    @rockreader4298 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this demo, Rob. This gem of a video is bound to save a lot of us from making the same mistakes. You were pretty much spot on with what you initially thought or knew. Surprise, surprise Lol. Wishing You and Yours a prosperous New Year ahead and the most Spectacular rock and or whatever desirable finds available to you. The same to Everyone else too. Love and Blessings from Nor Cali.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! I hope I speed up the process, but everyone has to tumble some of their own local duds to get a feel for what works and what doesn't.

    • @rockreader4298
      @rockreader4298 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MichiganRocks True enough. Nothing like hands on experience.

  • @Nikkisavage100
    @Nikkisavage100 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Mr teacher !

  • @michelesadler1792
    @michelesadler1792 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge on rock tumbling, I have been looking for you - LOL... I can't seem to get enough of the beauty of the Lake Superior rock varieties... and now I am learning how to polish them. TY :)

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're welcome! I'm glad to help.

    • @michelesadler1792
      @michelesadler1792 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MichiganRocks I'm having trouble with getting a solid shine on my rocks... I am digging around your TH-cam clips to find the simplest steps for getting a good shine on my Lakes Superior rocks, any suggestions?

    • @michelesadler1792
      @michelesadler1792 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just found this one... I'll try fallowing this one... thx... Rock Tumbling Tutorial for Rotary Tumblers and Ceramic Media

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michelesadler1792 Here are my complete tumbling videos:
      Rotary tumbler followed by vibratory tumbler: th-cam.com/video/ksrmpPZrAuU/w-d-xo.html
      Rotary tumbler with ceramics: th-cam.com/video/dYGFal0e1WY/w-d-xo.html
      Rotary tumbler with plastic pellets: th-cam.com/video/EnNvywwztr8/w-d-xo.html
      How to use a Nat Geo Tumbler: th-cam.com/video/CsTc1kXUuPo/w-d-xo.html
      Tumbling beach rocks in a Nat Geo tumbler: th-cam.com/video/_Vmm24Fc7j4/w-d-xo.html

  • @birdsberriesbrews6191
    @birdsberriesbrews6191 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it. Thank You. Happy New Year

  • @easterazali9237
    @easterazali9237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You were absolutely right master there is a huge difference between hard rocks and soft ones ! You know your rocks for sure ! 🥰👍
    Happy new year to you and the family ! 🥳🎉

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Happy New Year, Easter!

    • @easterazali9237
      @easterazali9237 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MichiganRocks thank you Rob 💗💐🙏🏻

  • @oldgamerchick
    @oldgamerchick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this video. Now I know which of my rocks to avoid tumbling. Happy holidays to y'all

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Merry Christmas, Old Gamer Chick!

  • @lucisue53
    @lucisue53 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a first-time viewer of your channel and wanted to thank you for the detailed information about your process. I am a geologist by training, though it has been many years since I worked in that profession. May I share a tip for cleaning grit out of the pits and holes that you had in some of the rocks? A dedicated WaterPik will help blast into the holes to loosen and remove the grit efficiently. That particular brand (maybe other brands too) can be fitted with different nozzles that focus the spray for different spray intensities, and the flow volume can adjust as well. Thanks again for the informative video - so much fun to watch. It brings back great memories of the rock tumbler we had in school.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's kind of funny how many people have suggested that recently. Probably a couple a day for the past week. I participate in an online lapidary forum where some people have suggested a fabric spot cleaning gun. It sounds like they have more pressure than a Waterpik. I think I'll have to try one or the other. Thanks for the tip.

  • @fantasystaplesuwu1554
    @fantasystaplesuwu1554 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love that stone you called stink stone! It looks SO cool!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Those are pretty cool. I find them fairly often, but I don't usually bring them home.

  • @debivort
    @debivort 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video - great to see that infamous old quartzite once again. Happy New Year!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a famous rock. It's really not my favorite tumble, but it's still setting on my counter. I'm not sure what to do with it.

    • @debivort
      @debivort 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MichiganRocks start a rogue's gallery box of rocks?

  • @tommelinn4268
    @tommelinn4268 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That banded chert towards the end of your video is a really pretty stone and pattern! I have tumbled some it as well and always like the results.

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's one of my favorite tumbles ever.

  • @staceymcmahan5016
    @staceymcmahan5016 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great demonstration! I think they all look interesting and great .

  • @marthafenimore4279
    @marthafenimore4279 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative. Great area for rock hunting.

  • @debispilker4392
    @debispilker4392 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, Happy New Year!

  • @ninadunn5683
    @ninadunn5683 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video, very informative and saved me 6 weeks of work!!!

  • @mrimc
    @mrimc 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Happy New Year! Just wanted to let you know that I truly enjoy your channel and just wanted to say "Thanks!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're welcome, I'm glad you're enjoying it. Happy New Year!

  • @oldhaggys
    @oldhaggys 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the stinkstone. It's sooo cool looking

  • @andrewp.schubert2417
    @andrewp.schubert2417 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing this great video. Have a Healthy & Happy New Year.

  • @bjornsfather
    @bjornsfather ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for saving me a ton of time tumbling! Great video!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! I'm glad you found it helpful.

  • @tigerg3761
    @tigerg3761 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really like the way the Omar turned out. Love the contrast. Hope your 2022 is off to a great start!

    • @MichiganRocks
      @MichiganRocks  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So far 2020 is awesome. I'm working on a video that I'm really excited about.