J. Krishnamurti - San Diego 1974 - Convers. 5 - Order comes from the understanding of our disorder

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  • @elijahpetrov9346
    @elijahpetrov9346 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    All of his speeches should be tought in schools all over the world

    • @garryfitzgerald6233
      @garryfitzgerald6233 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They are not interested. They only believe in their status, paycheck, position & security.

    • @KC-lc8dx
      @KC-lc8dx 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This is why he designed his own school

  • @jannichelien1068
    @jannichelien1068 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The leadership on Earth, Will Be A Meditative Mind

  • @charlieparis7749
    @charlieparis7749 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    These conversations are rare gems. Thank you Krishnamurti and Dr Anderson for consciously leaving this wisdom for future generations.

  • @renukatandon7463
    @renukatandon7463 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    amazing series of dialogues full of wisdom. listening again and again awakens from deep sleep making us fully aware alert and make us live ordered life.life changing.THANKS

  • @crazypasquale
    @crazypasquale 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    This series is the most transformative conversation I’ve ever heard

  • @Neti-Netti
    @Neti-Netti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I can’t stop listening to him and be amazed by Krishna Ji, he s full of hope and putting all his energy to save mankind.. what a Man!!!🙏🙏🙏

    • @padeshan1
      @padeshan1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for listening to these videos. For all humanity, for all mankind, its a seed you have planted.
      I am keeping this in mind as I go throgh these videos sowly
      Let the seed do its work.Dont disturb it. DOnt try to understand which will be akin to removing it from earth and examine if its germnating .

    • @puneethmohan5364
      @puneethmohan5364 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Couldn't agree more with you! 🙌

    • @The_Primary_Axiom
      @The_Primary_Axiom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thought has created the idea of non violence. It makes me think of this anti racism movement which is complete disorder and has caused racism where it doesn’t even exist. It has done nothing but create disorder which is racism all in the name of order which is anti racism. We create a solution to a problem we created and the solution becomes the problem. This fundamental understanding we still lack today its amazing.

    • @linettewhite2122
      @linettewhite2122 ปีที่แล้ว

      He tried to help the white man not destroye himself however it hasn't worked

    • @linettewhite2122
      @linettewhite2122 ปีที่แล้ว

      at this point we can only help ourselves if we can understand Krishna
      Iam impress with what he is saying

  • @eloryansuavo
    @eloryansuavo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The last words of Mr Anderson hit home. I remember getting into self-awareness/meditation/enlightenment stuff (I know, I know...) and in the process I just got so badly afraid of the things I'm aware of. It was so terrifying that my brain fought really hard to cover things up and make excuses/explanations for it's own comfort.
    See you all in the next part I guess :-p

  • @karenann5090
    @karenann5090 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When you think of all the years he spent traveling and speaking to everyone and anyone, with such an passionate plea to mankind, he really did lead a selfless life. 🕊️

  • @Tea-tl2pv
    @Tea-tl2pv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    How humble is Dr Anderson and so respectful of K, when he himself is an equally fine soul. Both are enjoying each other's company. Two greats in harmonious conversation. Thanks for uploading!

  • @knowledgematters206
    @knowledgematters206 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What an observation of a mind........ Excellent👏

  • @maurienicholson9776
    @maurienicholson9776 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Humans would benefit immensely if they could all partake in this conversation.

  • @shamsuka-bx2vf
    @shamsuka-bx2vf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for uploading.

  • @jswootheblackscreen
    @jswootheblackscreen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    This is a marvelous talk, it's just truthful, and beautiful🙏

  • @jinyoungyi209
    @jinyoungyi209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    덕이란 참으로 겸손하고 아름다워요.

  • @r3b3lvegan89
    @r3b3lvegan89 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Best conversation next to the series with David Bohm and his Real Revolution series

  • @Rasul_BandY
    @Rasul_BandY 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love his passion and enthusiasm in his unraveling the clarity embedded within these observable insights of life.....

  • @sangarapillaishanmugam8244
    @sangarapillaishanmugam8244 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great conversation thank you sirs, meditative mind, empty nothingness, absolutely quiet , absolutely ZERO speed, where thought acts as a whole , perceive without perceiver, can enters the world of creation where only love can exist no opposite great teaching

  • @davidd5529
    @davidd5529 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    46 years later we are still living in disorder with daily changes from order!!! Can humanity change, can this mans wisdom come about in humanity😔 if not, which is clear that our present system is not working , then only one end is inevitable

    • @The_Primary_Axiom
      @The_Primary_Axiom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In this specific talk all I can think about is USA lol. Every word he says it’s so relevant exactly what is going on today in 2022 in USA. Lack of real culture. Mmm mm mm.

    • @linettewhite2122
      @linettewhite2122 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is no hope for America unfortunately 😞 😢 😔

  • @renukatandon7463
    @renukatandon7463 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    listening u both again and yet again reveal the limitations of my mind and this realisation pushes my mind beyond its narrow circle .THANKS

  • @renukatandon7463
    @renukatandon7463 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where to pause and where to pick threads as well as using just the right word or expression so that it leads the dialogue in desired direction.AMAZING COORDINATION ANDERSON SIR. Huge credit to u both in making sure we fully grasp with clarity.THANKS K SIR.

  • @maheshkb9781
    @maheshkb9781 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    9:55 Out of understanding of disorder comes order.
    26:57 It is that thought (fragmentation of thought) has produced disorder.

  • @Inseptist
    @Inseptist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good times for this. Thanks.

  • @gentiantafa4619
    @gentiantafa4619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    🙏
    it is a living process ....
    💥💥💥💥💥💥💥

  • @ahmedelectobri1164
    @ahmedelectobri1164 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How actual for the things happening in our world today

  • @Ittohm235
    @Ittohm235 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Un grandissimo Saggio.

  • @kamaurahamukti5919
    @kamaurahamukti5919 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    brilliant ✨

  • @Sunil-zv3gv
    @Sunil-zv3gv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    - Root of problems 48:18 - 53:50
    - Order comes only with the understanding of disorder 53:53 - 58:50

  • @rsnzlr
    @rsnzlr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    first 2 min. of each talk is torture for K, now I can relate. -Sir..please.. let us start!

  • @The_Primary_Axiom
    @The_Primary_Axiom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Division is alright as long as it's discriptive. But when you're living with it, that division is destructive.
    -J Krishnamurti

  • @sureshgaikwad5004
    @sureshgaikwad5004 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    JK my God you're right. But to act on it in real life is not that much easy.

  • @Gaurav.P0
    @Gaurav.P0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video 🙂

  • @sylviagung1007
    @sylviagung1007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Through 'conduct,' flowering in goodness, everyday"....

  • @guillermocarrasco6893
    @guillermocarrasco6893 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thaaaanks!!

  • @quemaravilha
    @quemaravilha 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love ❤️

  • @mial2781
    @mial2781 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Two men thinking as one. Lovely to see.

    • @mariechong7280
      @mariechong7280 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Can feel JK ‘s joy that Alan could comprehend his sharing

  • @AnthonyHoward-ru8su
    @AnthonyHoward-ru8su ปีที่แล้ว

    For one to conform to an order leaves fragments of what would conflict to the order that one were being conformed to which would cause there to be disorder as long as the movement to order were not wholly done by the individual finding the order that they were observing which seems to take a large amount of honesty with oneself so as to not observe from a perspective that is fragmented

  • @theuofs
    @theuofs 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Perhaps the issue JK is ultimately driving at is how there are multiple orders or multiple belief paradigms (governments, politics, business, religion, education) that manifest their own brand of order that invariably clashes with other order systems and, thus, disorder (relational conflict) is the only possible result.

  • @Zara-um1nx
    @Zara-um1nx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ❤🙏

  • @sophiyapoudel9164
    @sophiyapoudel9164 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    😍

  • @gigi738
    @gigi738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes you are making sense! 😂😂

  • @nangotoman9429
    @nangotoman9429 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    16:57 ♥️😁

  • @gopreddy653
    @gopreddy653 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That disorder inside of our mind will never ordered because we r always accepting it the way it is we always observe it that's the reason for it.#JK🙏

  • @ashwindamle
    @ashwindamle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi everyone,
    I have a doubt after listening to this series so far.
    "Why does K think that there's disorder in the world as he says there is?"

    • @pranavmalik3795
      @pranavmalik3795 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because it is the fact. Don't you think there is disorder in the world?

    • @ahmedelectobri1164
      @ahmedelectobri1164 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There's order in our daily life but much more disorder.
      Just watch the news 😥

    • @hsemu316
      @hsemu316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He means disorder not only externally but internally in our minds aa well...

    • @linettewhite2122
      @linettewhite2122 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hsemu316 I agree
      He has stated this in many of his talks

  • @rajtheo
    @rajtheo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think what JK implies in an ambiguous way to the listeners is - that Order even for good , yet not properly understood by the other makes the other to rebel and cause disorder in anger. alternatively if the other has already an understanding of , what chaos disorder can cause, would not rebel, in fact there is not even a need for an imposed order.

  • @legaspirio
    @legaspirio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Dr. is elaborating the speaker's concept base on his past knowledge with a slight differenciation. In short, he cannot totally grasp the radical psychology of the speaker and that is to get out from the past knowledge.

    • @endlessvoid1918
      @endlessvoid1918 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And can you? He's pondering what Krishnamurti is saying and rephrasing it in his own words to confirm if he's understanding the message, which is a sensible thing to do.

    • @blackbeardgoatjr2434
      @blackbeardgoatjr2434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@endlessvoid1918 the original comment is literally displaying what JK is highlighting what the problem is in society. It's hilarious and I agree with your comment.

    • @DH-sx2tt
      @DH-sx2tt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can one live his life with no comparison? K

    • @linettewhite2122
      @linettewhite2122 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agree with your observation 👍

  • @bhuwan.chaturvedi
    @bhuwan.chaturvedi ปีที่แล้ว

  • @preethikrao
    @preethikrao 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🙏🙏🙏

  • @ramongomez8849
    @ramongomez8849 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🙏🏻

  • @uelideschwert8914
    @uelideschwert8914 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @VenusLover17
    @VenusLover17 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ❤❤

  • @sinamohajer9391
    @sinamohajer9391 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @tatianapassosterapeuta
    @tatianapassosterapeuta 2 หลายเดือนก่อน