J. Krishnamurti - San Diego 1974 - Conversation 7 - Understanding, not controlling, desire

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  • J. Krishnamurti - San Diego 1974 - Conversation 7 - Understanding, not controlling, desire
    Summary:
    Q: What is pleasure? What is desire?
    We are not condemning pleasure but observing it. To go into the question of pleasure one has to look into desire. Through propaganda desire is inflamed.
    What is desire? How does it come about that this very strong desire is born, cultivated? Must desire be controlled at all? Desire seems to be a very active and demanding instinct that is going on all the time.
    Why has pleasure, whether of sex, possession, power, knowledge or enlightenment, become so extraordinarily important in life? Pleasure is an extraordinary thing. To see a beautiful thing and to enjoy it, what is wrong with that?
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  • @maracummings9767
    @maracummings9767 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The ability to see through everything so clearly, so sanely is astonishing. Thank you!❤

  • @maciej.ratajczak
    @maciej.ratajczak 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    9:20 - "The more commercial and usage of things, the more desire grows. You can see it: commercialism and consumerism. Through propaganda desire is inflamed."
    It's great to see someone describing greed, brainwashing and materialism without mislabeling it as 'capitalism'.

    • @MrBigkilla
      @MrBigkilla 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly!

    • @hugolacour1295
      @hugolacour1295 ปีที่แล้ว

      capitalism is an answer to this greed where you accept it with the resulting violence . Like the idea to control it which is not a response of the problem of desir too. So capitalism is not the greed but one of expressions of it

    • @kooroshrostami27
      @kooroshrostami27 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Correct, but capitalism does very much rely on this consumer-materialistic greed. If people lived in moderation and merely consumed what they actually needed, the world economy would collapse tomorrow.

  • @lm5608
    @lm5608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Thank you for these uploads. K is saving lives.

  • @blagojchegeshtakovski1167
    @blagojchegeshtakovski1167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    His teachings have saved my life keep uploading 🙏

  • @ashrafulhaque8759
    @ashrafulhaque8759 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad to see that JKs teaching is reignited once again. Finally we have got another chance to be light to ourselves. As I am the world and the world is me, together we will light the world.

  • @theuofs
    @theuofs 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Desire seeks to fulfill something we believe we "need" or is otherwise missing from our life that we further believe will ultimately fulfill wants and cravings for pleasure (in avoiding both physical and psychological pain).

  • @seamusdebuitleir20
    @seamusdebuitleir20 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What an insight to this sick society 🙏🏻

  • @angelasiegfried-rossi5034
    @angelasiegfried-rossi5034 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Un dialogo in cui si riconosce come noi attraverso il desiderio di avere sempre di piu ci condizione e ci blocca ,rimanendo sempre in un circolo vizioso con desideri inutili.....abbiamo tutto di cui bisognamo e troppo di cio che non e' relevante alla nostra vita ....ORA OSSERVO IL TUTTO CON ATTENZIONE ......GRAZIEEEEEEEEEEE PER TUTTI QUESTI PREZIOSI VIDEO ....😊❤😊

    • @JCW-zs6yn
      @JCW-zs6yn 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Siamo poveri ✝

  • @PompousPicard1
    @PompousPicard1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That analogy between the guy on the road for 55 years, and that being a substitute for 55 years of going to the office for business and money … damn that’s so heavy, so right.

  • @puttapakasaiprasad7005
    @puttapakasaiprasad7005 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    kudos to the cameraman , his subtle camera movements on krsina on certain points is awesome

  • @Zara-um1nx
    @Zara-um1nx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so much

  • @sumitrashankarchamoli8547
    @sumitrashankarchamoli8547 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    OBSERVE OBSERVE

  • @AnthonyHoward-ru8su
    @AnthonyHoward-ru8su 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where desire meets necessity with acceptance of what is there seems to be freedom that leaves an individual to find pleasure beside responsibility

  • @אורןאבנון
    @אורןאבנון 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Delight indeed!

  • @ThomasMayer123-f8f
    @ThomasMayer123-f8f 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Those are the coolest eyebrows ever, he looks like wolverines father

  • @anuraganuragkr5890
    @anuraganuragkr5890 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ❤ flame 🔥

  • @BamBhole1
    @BamBhole1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank You! 😀

  • @nataliacherednichenko6732
    @nataliacherednichenko6732 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wenn you have thoughts, is there a thinker?
    Perceiving the impermanency of thoughts,thought itself creates the thinker who gives himself permanency;
    So thought creates the thinker; then the thinker establishes himself as a permanent entity apart from thoughts which are always in state of flux.
    So the thought creates the thinker and not the other way about.
    The thinker does not create thought, for if there are no thoughts, there is no thinker.
    The thinker separates himself from his parent and tries to establish a relationship - a relationship between the so-called permanent, which is the thinker created by thought, and the impermanent or transient, which is thought. So, both are really transient.

    • @spacejame-pc9xv
      @spacejame-pc9xv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you saying the conscious mind is the thinker n the action of thought creates the conscious being aka the thinker because without thought we wouldn't be conscious n without out the consciousness we wouldn't have thoughts or u just using philosophy word play n saying there has to be another whole another being that comes to effect when we have thoughts n call the action something n have to give that thing a title n call it a entity

    • @r3b3lvegan89
      @r3b3lvegan89 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, well you know that’s just like uh your opinion, man

    • @krox477
      @krox477 ปีที่แล้ว

      That means we all live in illusions

  • @Zara-um1nx
    @Zara-um1nx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is truth verry truth verry truth

  • @kjyothish5280
    @kjyothish5280 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please share the continuation of this discussion 🙏

  • @uelideschwert8914
    @uelideschwert8914 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @roytacleb8781
    @roytacleb8781 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    K is so sharp

    • @adityakharade9868
      @adityakharade9868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Like a knife

    • @rickeshpatel4025
      @rickeshpatel4025 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If that’s what you observed only, the point has been missed. It’s not just an intellectual understanding, it’s actual doing this inner work yourself.

    • @Az7yQ
      @Az7yQ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rickeshpatel4025 you are only looking at the surface of the water.

    • @PompousPicard1
      @PompousPicard1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rickeshpatel4025 but it starts with observation, which is the function of conscious intention. Jnana is, after all, the yoga of the intellect

    • @Physics14728
      @Physics14728 ปีที่แล้ว

      No there is wisdom for all. Sharp is a measurement and now we are caught in maya.

  • @jswootheblackscreen
    @jswootheblackscreen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    🙏

  • @BamBhole1
    @BamBhole1 ปีที่แล้ว

    👌

  • @sophiyapoudel9164
    @sophiyapoudel9164 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    😍

  • @normalusername6387
    @normalusername6387 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    14:00

  • @hugolacour1295
    @hugolacour1295 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm so sad to listening a dead healthy holy person. Do you know someone else who feel concerne to those problem today? pleae tell me if you know ones

  • @synopsis-aum
    @synopsis-aum 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    can we have german subtitle for this series of videos please

    • @Gargamel0086
      @Gargamel0086 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Look for his books in secondhand shops or online, most of his conversations where put in books and translated in many languages

    • @rajanish1003
      @rajanish1003 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Gargamel0086 or get in touch with the K Foundation Trusts located in America, U.K . or India...

  • @ಛಾಯಾಕನ್ನಡಿ
    @ಛಾಯಾಕನ್ನಡಿ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Q

  • @bhuwan.chaturvedi
    @bhuwan.chaturvedi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

  • @ramongomez8849
    @ramongomez8849 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    🙏🏻