Woah... I almost turned to stone when Medusa showed up...good thing I looked away just in time! Great episode, love the combination of mythology and history together. Looking forward to the next one!
Yes, you don't want to be caught looking the wrong way! Thanks man, I thought it would be interesting to make a correlation. Can't wait for your next video!
There wouldn't be a single thing on the entire internet for ME.... than this video right here. I'm so glad to have found this channel. Thank you, Wanax
When I was growing up, before cable tv, all I had to choose between, was the news channel and the cartoon channel. Young folk today don’t appreciate how lucky they are. : ) >
Hi. Just wanted to tell you that I really recently found your channel, and its freaking amazing. I'm going to watch all of your videos at once. I'm also an archaeology major with partial focus on this time period and regions. You help me a lot. Namaskaram
Very important to know videos. Can you make a vedio about the Hittite-Assyrian-Egyptian conflicts? And can you finish the Hittite conflicts of the west?
The next video continues on the Hittite conflicts in western Anatolia. I plan on expanding on the Hittites in future, but for now I'm just focused on them as related to the Achaeans and Arzawa. Thanks for the feedback bro! 💯
That would be cool. Save the best son of Zeus for last. Alexander was so fast his feet didn’t touch the floor, but of course he fought on his horse. I think Alexander was truly the greatest
One of his daughters was named "Gorgophone". Doesnt that mean "sounding like a Gorgon"? Maybe some of her baby sounds were similar to Medusa's utterances?
Γοργόνες (gorgons) indeed...φόνη,not φωνή.Φόνη means murderer.Gorgons were three sisters,Gorgo,Evryali,Stheno.Gorgo is the second name of Medusa.So Gorgophone means the murderer of Medusa.God Athena helped Perseas to kill her and she takes the name Gorgophone Athena,and she wears mesusa's head to her shield
Have you ever heard of Andromeda’s Rock, at Jaffa ? Lol it’s the literal location where Andromeda was chained to the rock and where Perseus rescued her. 10:11 or he dropped the hilt of his sword. I saw one hilt and it was in the shape of a dragon, and I thought that was pretty cool.
In Greek mythology Aethiopia was land south of Egypt, so Black Africa. It indeed had to make impression if Greek from that era returned with black bride. And if he was in Egypt he could have certainly got some idea about building projects, and possibly got local curved sword, kopesh.
It's interesting that the story about Perseus' son Perses was known to Persians too, as Xerxes mentioned it during the negotiations with Argos. Thanks for stepping by brother.
I spent a long time in Greece in that area 80s and 90s,a lot of people used to go there for the winter and work on the orange crop there, everyone who slept in the caves in Mycenae used to be tormented by crazy dreams, you'd get really vivid dreams there for some reason, fantastic place
11:41 Gorgophone, written in greek with an o-micron (unlike in the word "telephone" where the "o" is an o-mega "Ω,ω") means "the Gorgon-murderer" (Medusa = one of the 3 Gorgons). "PhOnos", written with o-micron means "murder" (and "phoneus" means "murderer", the male form of the noun), While "phonE", written with o-mega, means "voice"... (the stess always on the vowel that I wrote in its capital case). Akrisios, afraid of the future-son of his daughter Danae, imprisoned her in a small bronze tower, with a cell at its top, so that no man can impregnate her. Zeus noticed her tornment, he liked her, and impregnated her in the form of rain, falling onto her through cracks on her cell´s roof. When Akrisios found out, that she had a baby, and out of repect of the divine descent of the baby, he didn´t kill it, instead, put mother and son in a wooden box, and let them to the mercy of the sea. So, they arrived alive in Seriphos, where the king´s brother found them, released them from the box, and took care of the baby´s upbringing... Nearly a millenium later, jewish mythology would copy this story (and a second, similar greek story), for Moses, who was found at the river´s shore, in a basket...
Hey man great series. I like how you blend historical facts and greek mytology. But most likely mycenaean Greece was not united under a high king. But a series of city states . Some was just powerfull thrn others and could be players in international politics. And its possible that hittite king/enperor was a war with some greek citystates that had colonies in anatolia. While the hittites were a peace with other mycenaean citystates. Also did a high rule from mycenaeae . Its more likely that he ruled over the other citystates in argolid region as an overlord. With wanaxes of cities like Argos, Tiryns and Mides etc as vasals under hin. While the greek citystates were either enemies or allies. A united mycenaean Greece did not exsist. And its possible that acheans/achiyawa was in reality just the conferation of in the citystates in argolid under the overlord ship of mycenaeae .
Thanks for your feedback! You are right, it was unlikely that all of Mycenaean Greece was directly controlled by one king. I suggest you watch the first 3 videos where I went more into depth explaining the confederation and political order of Mycenaean Greece. This video is just a follow up in that regard, and doesn't give you a full picture if you want to get to know the political situation.
@@WanaxTV I have seen your firt 3 Amazing videoes. And they are perfect. But even though there might have been different conferations of citystates in Greece. Then its not unlikely that there sometimes was war inside those conferations. We know from classic times. That sometimes wars would take inside the conferations . Where two citystates would go to war over the leader ship of the conferations... So its likely that mycenaeae and Tiryns (or Argos) was at war st sometimes. And that argolid conferation sometimes were lead by mycenaeae or Tiryns. Depending on who won the war. Heck even in classic times. The citystates around Delphi would go ro war over the control of acces to Delphi. Another reason that mycenaeae was powerfull in the argolid region is trade. The trade routes from Argos and Tiryns up to corinth. The go right through Mycenaeaen controlled territory. And back then there was such thing as police and good roads . So the if trade caravan came by things of high value. The chance getting attacked abd robbed was high. So this could be a reason why the king of mycenaeae was powerfull. He could say to those trade caravans : If you give a procent of your goods in tax. Then I can offer an armed escort through my lands ... That could have the real reason for mycenaeaen power in argolid region. Also control of trade routes was something that could send citystates to war with each other....
@@madsdahlc That's a good assessment. From all my research, written records and archeological evidence, it can be said with big certainty that Argolid at the very least was controlled by Mycenae, including Tyrins and Argos. During Bronze, Argos was just a town in Argolis, with small populace not even comparable in size to classical Argos. Tyrins was a significant fortification, but only fortified towards c. 1400 BCE, which would have not been possible if there was a rival powerful city nearby. Afterwards Tyrins prospered together with Mycenae, and there is no evidence of damage except for times when Mycenae itself was damaged as well (for example Bronze age collapse). Tyrins also did not have a major royal cementry, nor did Argos, or any city nearby except for Mycenae, proving that Mycenae was undoubtedly the capital city, at least of an area of most of Peloponnese. This is also confirmed by ancient traditions which most times place kings of Mycenae to have also reigned over Argos, Tiryns, northern Peloponnese, Laconia and even Pylos. As for the rest of Mycenaean Greece, their relations towards Mycenae possibly changed at different times, considering the developed road network leading to Mycenae, and also foreign correspondence with Hittites where they clearly refer to king of 'Ahhiyawa' as an equal, "great king" and a "peer" to the Hittite kings, in general there was likely an alliance, confederation or a hegemon-vassal relation with Myecane and most of those cities, where the king of Mycenae held a special sway or at times probably hegemony over most of the other rulers. For example, letters from Muwatali II to the unnamed king of Ahhiyawa reveal that the Achaean king "installed" certain Atpa as the ruler of Miletus, and that Miletus belongs to the king of Achaea, together with the Aegean islands. It would have been impossible for the king of Achaea to hold such high status internationally, control territories across Aegean and engage in wars with Hittites and even invade Cyprus if the situation in mainland Greece was not stable and under control.
@@WanaxTV the latest understanding really goes for a one High King, the Wanax, governing the mycenaean world indirectly through the Lawagetas. The sheer uniformity throughout the mycenaean world being too much for different indipendent polities to live up to. Further more, the sheer scale of infrastructural effirts made by the mycenaeans all over the mycenaean world needed resources that just a unified polity could muster.
Was he a real historical person? Is he Egyptian? 1:32 see those pillars in the Minoan temple? Those are like the pillars that Samson pulled on to bring down the temple of the philistines which culminated Samson and everyone’s demise. Crete is where the Philistine originated from.
If i was in Perseus ' place i would have a pounding heart before Medusa would come closer so i could decapitate her head and use it against the Kraken 😆
If Acrisios was the father of Danæ, who in turn was Perseus' mother, then Perseus was Acrisios' grandson, not nephew. It's ok, I know other languages in which the same word is used to refer to grandchildren as well as nephews and nieces.
@@herculianthegreat I'm slowly getting to that time period where Theseus was placed to had reigned. It's definitely an interesting story with a lot of material. I still have a few things to finish before moving on to Athens but I can't wait!
@Guyana Spice There is no connection between the Pope and Persians but I’m sure Wanax can make a fable that will connect the pope, italy, and the persians to satisfy your request.
The nymph Perseeda,Perses,Medea and Pasiphae,daughter and sister of Aeetes,king of Colchis are explaining the connection of Minoans and then Myceneans with the black sea at the bronze age and then,the iron age,the ancestry of Medes and Parsa,the ancestry of the Persian empire.This is the beggining of the so called indoeuropeans languages,the spread of the Hellenic language two times at the bronze age
@@guritarasi8732 Maybe in the fabricated Albanian history that the world laughs at. Pelasgians were not Albanians and Pelasgians were not Albanians. Albanian language was first attested in the 15th century. That's 3000 years after the events of this video.
@@diomedesii9846 well my friend i thing that more fabricate Greek history the whole world haven't yet.You are fake country which created from the Big mama Russia,France,England and Germany.Even more your flag is a totaly copy from Finland,Sweeden,England flags etc. Let me inform you that the descriptions which founted in Lemnos island as"Lemno's steles" confirmed that the write form is Etruscans(800-700 B.C) and they are Pelasgian trib,before Greeks came in Illyricum. Etruscan language was wrote by Pelasgian alphabet. But what kind of language it was? Of course it was Albanian. You can check in youtube :"Lingua Etrusca e' lingua Albanese" Also you can read the book : "Etruscans begine to speak" By Zacharia Mayani French writer Bye bye bye🖐🤣🖐🤣🖐🤣🖐
@@guritarasi8732 There is no Pelasgian alphabet, they didn't leave any written records and they were gone from history centuries before alphabet was even developed. They are only known from Greek mythology. In fact, nobody ever recorded the existence of Pelasgians except for Greeks in myths and legends etc. And it is sad that you have no history of your own, so you look for ancient peoples that left no evidence or records, so you can claim them as your own. That's what happens with undeveloped countries where it's so easy for government to brainwash their uneducated people. Albanians only started writing in the 15th century, they didn't record their own history and even today Albania is the least developed and civilized country in Europe.
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Woah... I almost turned to stone when Medusa showed up...good thing I looked away just in time!
Great episode, love the combination of mythology and history together. Looking forward to the next one!
Yes, you don't want to be caught looking the wrong way! Thanks man, I thought it would be interesting to make a correlation. Can't wait for your next video!
I didn't look away and got so damn stoned as a result. Or was it the other way around?
There wouldn't be a single thing on the entire internet for ME.... than this video right here. I'm so glad to have found this channel. Thank you, Wanax
Thank you so much for your support brother! I really appreciate the feedback. There will be much more videos like this for sure!
When I was growing up, before cable tv, all I had to choose between, was the news channel and the cartoon channel. Young folk today don’t appreciate how lucky they are. : ) >
Most indepth videos on ancient history. Still have to watch multiple times to get all the details. Fact dense videos!!!
Hi. Just wanted to tell you that I really recently found your channel, and its freaking amazing. I'm going to watch all of your videos at once. I'm also an archaeology major with partial focus on this time period and regions. You help me a lot. Namaskaram
The idea of a creature that turned you to stone, must have come, from ancient Greek experiences of volcanoes. 🌋🤔
Could be. Although they did have pretty big imagination!
Thanks for stepping by, really appreciate it!
A very materialistic interpretation of the stories
Lol.
Lava does not turn someone to stone.
It covers and consumes the body.
Statues are the obvious source for this myth.
Outstanding
Another very good video from this channel 👌👌
myth preserves history imo
I believe the same and I love the bronze age for this
Very important to know videos. Can you make a vedio about the Hittite-Assyrian-Egyptian conflicts? And can you finish the Hittite conflicts of the west?
The next video continues on the Hittite conflicts in western Anatolia. I plan on expanding on the Hittites in future, but for now I'm just focused on them as related to the Achaeans and Arzawa.
Thanks for the feedback bro! 💯
Great content! Can we expect a video about Alexander the Great in the future?
That would be cool. Save the best son of Zeus for last. Alexander was so fast his feet didn’t touch the floor, but of course he fought on his horse. I think Alexander was truly the greatest
Also a note a local legend of lesvos said that medousa lived in eresos and perseus went to kill her in the forest the petrified forest
Was Perseus before Achilles?
One of his daughters was named "Gorgophone". Doesnt that mean "sounding like a Gorgon"? Maybe some of her baby sounds were similar to Medusa's utterances?
Γοργόνες (gorgons) indeed...φόνη,not φωνή.Φόνη means murderer.Gorgons were three sisters,Gorgo,Evryali,Stheno.Gorgo is the second name of Medusa.So Gorgophone means the murderer of Medusa.God Athena helped Perseas to kill her and she takes the name Gorgophone Athena,and she wears mesusa's head to her shield
Have you ever heard of Andromeda’s Rock, at Jaffa ? Lol it’s the literal location where Andromeda was chained to the rock and where Perseus rescued her.
10:11 or he dropped the hilt of his sword. I saw one hilt and it was in the shape of a dragon, and I thought that was pretty cool.
nice nice
waiting for that persian, italy, & pope line connection : )
back then, they took driving off cattle pretty serious huh? hehe
In Greek mythology Aethiopia was land south of Egypt, so Black Africa. It indeed had to make impression if Greek from that era returned with black bride. And if he was in Egypt he could have certainly got some idea about building projects, and possibly got local curved sword, kopesh.
Founder of Persia
It's interesting that the story about Perseus' son Perses was known to Persians too, as Xerxes mentioned it during the negotiations with Argos.
Thanks for stepping by brother.
Source?
So do you think Persians are descendants of Persis son of Perseus ?
@@Eyyubid_KurdishOnly in name, not blood/dna.
I spent a long time in Greece in that area 80s and 90s,a lot of people used to go there for the winter and work on the orange crop there, everyone who slept in the caves in Mycenae used to be tormented by crazy dreams, you'd get really vivid dreams there for some reason, fantastic place
11:41 Gorgophone, written in greek with an o-micron (unlike in the word "telephone" where the "o" is an o-mega "Ω,ω") means "the Gorgon-murderer" (Medusa = one of the 3 Gorgons). "PhOnos", written with o-micron means "murder" (and "phoneus" means "murderer", the male form of the noun), While "phonE", written with o-mega, means "voice"... (the stess always on the vowel that I wrote in its capital case).
Akrisios, afraid of the future-son of his daughter Danae, imprisoned her in a small bronze tower, with a cell at its top, so that no man can impregnate her. Zeus noticed her tornment, he liked her, and impregnated her in the form of rain, falling onto her through cracks on her cell´s roof. When Akrisios found out, that she had a baby, and out of repect of the divine descent of the baby, he didn´t kill it, instead, put mother and son in a wooden box, and let them to the mercy of the sea. So, they arrived alive in Seriphos, where the king´s brother found them, released them from the box, and took care of the baby´s upbringing... Nearly a millenium later, jewish mythology would copy this story (and a second, similar greek story), for Moses, who was found at the river´s shore, in a basket...
Hey man great series. I like how you blend historical facts and greek mytology. But most likely mycenaean Greece was not united under a high king. But a series of city states . Some was just powerfull thrn others and could be players in international politics. And its possible that hittite king/enperor was a war with some greek citystates that had colonies in anatolia. While the hittites were a peace with other mycenaean citystates. Also did a high rule from mycenaeae . Its more likely that he ruled over the other citystates in argolid region as an overlord. With wanaxes of cities like Argos, Tiryns and Mides etc as vasals under hin. While the greek citystates were either enemies or allies. A united mycenaean Greece did not exsist. And its possible that acheans/achiyawa was in reality just the conferation of in the citystates in argolid under the overlord ship of mycenaeae .
Thanks for your feedback! You are right, it was unlikely that all of Mycenaean Greece was directly controlled by one king. I suggest you watch the first 3 videos where I went more into depth explaining the confederation and political order of Mycenaean Greece. This video is just a follow up in that regard, and doesn't give you a full picture if you want to get to know the political situation.
@@WanaxTV I have seen your firt 3 Amazing videoes. And they are perfect. But even though there might have been different conferations of citystates in Greece. Then its not unlikely that there sometimes was war inside those conferations. We know from classic times. That sometimes wars would take inside the conferations . Where two citystates would go to war over the leader ship of the conferations... So its likely that mycenaeae and Tiryns (or Argos) was at war st sometimes. And that argolid conferation sometimes were lead by mycenaeae or Tiryns. Depending on who won the war. Heck even in classic times. The citystates around Delphi would go ro war over the control of acces to Delphi. Another reason that mycenaeae was powerfull in the argolid region is trade. The trade routes from Argos and Tiryns up to corinth. The go right through Mycenaeaen controlled territory. And back then there was such thing as police and good roads . So the if trade caravan came by things of high value. The chance getting attacked abd robbed was high. So this could be a reason why the king of mycenaeae was powerfull. He could say to those trade caravans : If you give a procent of your goods in tax. Then I can offer an armed escort through my lands ... That could have the real reason for mycenaeaen power in argolid region. Also control of trade routes was something that could send citystates to war with each other....
@@madsdahlc That's a good assessment. From all my research, written records and archeological evidence, it can be said with big certainty that Argolid at the very least was controlled by Mycenae, including Tyrins and Argos. During Bronze, Argos was just a town in Argolis, with small populace not even comparable in size to classical Argos. Tyrins was a significant fortification, but only fortified towards c. 1400 BCE, which would have not been possible if there was a rival powerful city nearby. Afterwards Tyrins prospered together with Mycenae, and there is no evidence of damage except for times when Mycenae itself was damaged as well (for example Bronze age collapse). Tyrins also did not have a major royal cementry, nor did Argos, or any city nearby except for Mycenae, proving that Mycenae was undoubtedly the capital city, at least of an area of most of Peloponnese. This is also confirmed by ancient traditions which most times place kings of Mycenae to have also reigned over Argos, Tiryns, northern Peloponnese, Laconia and even Pylos. As for the rest of Mycenaean Greece, their relations towards Mycenae possibly changed at different times, considering the developed road network leading to Mycenae, and also foreign correspondence with Hittites where they clearly refer to king of 'Ahhiyawa' as an equal, "great king" and a "peer" to the Hittite kings, in general there was likely an alliance, confederation or a hegemon-vassal relation with Myecane and most of those cities, where the king of Mycenae held a special sway or at times probably hegemony over most of the other rulers.
For example, letters from Muwatali II to the unnamed king of Ahhiyawa reveal that the Achaean king "installed" certain Atpa as the ruler of Miletus, and that Miletus belongs to the king of Achaea, together with the Aegean islands.
It would have been impossible for the king of Achaea to hold such high status internationally, control territories across Aegean and engage in wars with Hittites and even invade Cyprus if the situation in mainland Greece was not stable and under control.
@@WanaxTV the latest understanding really goes for a one High King, the Wanax, governing the mycenaean world indirectly through the Lawagetas. The sheer uniformity throughout the mycenaean world being too much for different indipendent polities to live up to. Further more, the sheer scale of infrastructural effirts made by the mycenaeans all over the mycenaean world needed resources that just a unified polity could muster.
Is there any mention of Perseus in the Parian chronicle?
Clash of the Titans!!!
Was he a real historical person? Is he Egyptian?
1:32 see those pillars in the Minoan temple? Those are like the pillars that Samson pulled on to bring down the temple of the philistines which culminated Samson and everyone’s demise. Crete is where the Philistine originated from.
If i was in Perseus ' place i would have a pounding heart before Medusa would come closer so i could decapitate her head and use it against the Kraken 😆
If Acrisios was the father of Danæ, who in turn was Perseus' mother, then Perseus was Acrisios' grandson, not nephew.
It's ok, I know other languages in which the same word is used to refer to grandchildren as well as nephews and nieces.
Founder of Mycenae
Sooner or later there will be a video on Theseus as well!
@@WanaxTV I am from Athens so will be very proud to see our 1st Athens unified state king video ❤️
@@herculianthegreat I'm slowly getting to that time period where Theseus was placed to had reigned. It's definitely an interesting story with a lot of material. I still have a few things to finish before moving on to Athens but I can't wait!
@@WanaxTV will there be an connection between persians, italy, and pope?
@Guyana Spice There is no connection between the Pope and Persians but I’m sure Wanax can make a fable that will connect the pope, italy, and the persians to satisfy your request.
The nymph Perseeda,Perses,Medea and Pasiphae,daughter and sister of Aeetes,king of Colchis are explaining the connection of Minoans and then Myceneans with the black sea at the bronze age and then,the iron age,the ancestry of Medes and Parsa,the ancestry of the Persian empire.This is the beggining of the so called indoeuropeans languages,the spread of the Hellenic language two times at the bronze age
Look to other myths about serpents,
We're is the isle
Jokes on us, what if one day we find written record confirming this all was true, and Piyamaradu was Perseus's brother
Perseus=Per+ze-us=That who become from Zeus
He was Pelasgian hero from Pelasgian Ar go!!
Gift from Pelasgian Albanian language only😉
1. He was not Pelasgian
2. Pelasgians were not Albanians
@@diomedesii9846
Oh yes he was.
Pelasg is Albanian language and mean "That who born white,strong and smart one".
Ar go city state was Pelasgian!!
@@guritarasi8732 Maybe in the fabricated Albanian history that the world laughs at.
Pelasgians were not Albanians and Pelasgians were not Albanians.
Albanian language was first attested in the 15th century. That's 3000 years after the events of this video.
@@diomedesii9846 well my friend i thing that more fabricate Greek history the whole world haven't yet.You are fake country which created from the Big mama Russia,France,England and Germany.Even more your flag is a totaly copy from Finland,Sweeden,England flags etc.
Let me inform you that the descriptions which founted in Lemnos island as"Lemno's steles" confirmed that the write form is Etruscans(800-700 B.C) and they are Pelasgian trib,before Greeks came in Illyricum.
Etruscan language was wrote by Pelasgian alphabet.
But what kind of language it was?
Of course it was Albanian.
You can check in youtube :"Lingua Etrusca e' lingua Albanese"
Also you can read the book :
"Etruscans begine to speak"
By Zacharia Mayani
French writer
Bye bye bye🖐🤣🖐🤣🖐🤣🖐
@@guritarasi8732 There is no Pelasgian alphabet, they didn't leave any written records and they were gone from history centuries before alphabet was even developed. They are only known from Greek mythology. In fact, nobody ever recorded the existence of Pelasgians except for Greeks in myths and legends etc.
And it is sad that you have no history of your own, so you look for ancient peoples that left no evidence or records, so you can claim them as your own. That's what happens with undeveloped countries where it's so easy for government to brainwash their uneducated people.
Albanians only started writing in the 15th century, they didn't record their own history and even today Albania is the least developed and civilized country in Europe.