Jen the thing about your video's is no matter what the subject or who invite you to the place/ launch event it's impossible not to see your wonderful and honest opinion shine though. You just keep fliming stuff and we will all keep watching
You've created a real gem of a video, despite any misgiving you may have had. Congratulations that you and Jago have covered the same event in a totally different and unique manner, both superb x
that would come with a hardware requirement at both ends- so video makers would need the ability to record (and edit) smells, and video watchers would need to have the equipment to produce the smells as indicated by the video
Totally agree with you about level boarding. It's something that should be a solved problem for all new trains. Unfortunately while a small number of trains in the UK are being rolled out with level boarding, the majority of manufacturers seem to want to stick with their outdated designs with limited accessibility, and there seems to be no pressure on them to change. I know train ordering takes many years, so there are likely non-level boarding trains in the pipeline. However, the UK needs to draw a line in the sand and state that no further trains will be ordered without level boarding. Hopefully you'll pop over to Dublin when the new DART units enter service, which do all have level boarding!
Excellent vlog Jen! Excellent to meet you on the day and see some of the BTS of this being put together (think we made a good call going to the other end of the train, regardless of the extra steps 🤣)
I think you made a good video too! Inviting the transport youtubers along to events like this - and the videos you already make anyway - are a great way to convey fascination with public transport to the public while also creating and feeding productive conversations about needed improvements to the system as a whole and in detail. It is clear to see from the videos that the several youtubers that were invited along to this were not prevented from voicing criticisms and offering transparency. It's a good PR move by SWR.
I suppose you can't complain about Northern being late when these trains are five years late 😂😂😂 But joking aside, they do look good trains apart from the issue of level boarding
Great video from you Jen thank you.🙏 Also wanted Jago’s launch vid earlier and you certainly highlight some other interesting points. I salute anyone who shares their passion to make great informative videos on any topic, but I’m drawn to train and transport
You have made a really good film - not least because 'you do what you do' with your usual hints of humour - and well done for calling them out on the level access issue. Too many people in the wrong jobs, as ever - and it's great that you enjoyed it too!
I like your videos and I like you ! Your passion shines through , quirky sense of humour and most importantly I always learn something from your videos so thank you !
Great video Jen - I’m looking forward to when we get the new trains on the Dorking line. Well done for raising the comment about level boarding. With the current SWR trains it’s such a huge step down I always feel anxious getting off the train , especially if my knee is playing me up. With all the awareness about accessibility these days you would think they would have thought that through by now . I really enjoy your videos - keep up the good work.
Hi Jen, Great video of you with the new SWR trains. That just shows how much notice is taken of you and other You Tubers, you provide a valuable and important service. Also, it's not everyone that gets a chance to see inside the cab, especially on a new train, so well done you. Carry on doing what you do so well. See you next time, Jon B. 🙂
Very nice video Jen. Loved that you avoided much of the corporate stuff. Looking forward to using these trains next year (I think) when they start serving the Hounslow Loop. Keep doing what you're doing. ☺️ P.S. Feltham looks better in the fog so you didn't miss anything.
Great video as usual Jen! If I remember correctly, Merseyrail did work with a group of regular users of the network to help with the design process of the 777 trains, and took on their feedback when it came to the final design. They also had to adjust the height of the platforms at every station, so that they would be level with the train floor. They had to close the network off in stages in order to do that.
It was great to see inside the cabs! On my local line we get level boarding with a bit that sticks out of the train on some, but not all, of the services. Could be anything that's not a 153 or a 150 but I'm not sure about that; I think all the new ones have them and the old ones are going away.
Hi Jen, I appreciate your honest and quite valid criticism with accessability with these new trains. Unlike another frequent and verbose TH-camr who covers London-based train travel, you hit the nail on the head that people with limited mobility, especially those with wheelchairs, cannot safely board these new trains. Yes, a large part of the problem are the antiquated station platforms, networkwise. But, for those stations that built their platforms, supposedly for level boarding, still lack accessability for those of limited mobility to these new trains. What I find incredible is that the people who designed these trains could have built in an automated door extension that would roll at stops and bridge the gap between carriage and station platform. Goodness sakes, this is not a new technology, because you see this tech on many types of new trams and trains. Jen, keep up the good work and thanks for looking out not just the able-bodied, but all of us.
the SWR class 701 Arterio trains look amazing & even tho some have been in service this year i still haveent been on one yet but its on my list of new trains that i need to check out at some point & it should def happen during 2025 brilliant vlog
5:17 'My hairy muff setting off the water' PMSL but this was still a Jen video and enjoyable as well, Those Class 701s remind me of the Class 730/0s for West Midlands Trains
Nice video. Now two of my favourite TH-camrs (You and Jago Hazzard) have done a video on this event. Just waiting for Geoff to Pop up. Someone in the press department appreciates what you and other TH-camrs do, and how you do it. Just wish I lived in a country where we still had trains.
I do think that the new Class 701 Arterio will soon be used on the Chessington South, Weybridge, Dorking, Woking, Reading and Aldershot routes from next year. Plus nice to see Network Nathan on your video. The Class 455 do need replacing because they are getting so old.
Thanks for doing this video Jen. You are spot on with the level boarding thing. Liverpool sorted this out. London is failing it's disabled passengers. The big problem is that the platforms are not the correct height for sliding step trains. In Liverpool they actually shut lines and ripped out platforms prior to buying 777 trains. In London the train operating companies are not pushing for that to happen and the Mayor of London is unable to force it to happen. The other thing that is a big problem with level boarding in London is that both Thameslink and Crossrail raised up platforms in the core of London...instead of lowering the train hight to the standard platform height. In a country where trains run from one area to another area, we can not have one height for Central London and a different height for Liverpool. It will cost a lot of money to fix Thameslink and Crossrail. And we can not change every other platform instead of fixing those platforsm.
Nice to see Network Nathan taking a ride on the Class 701 Arterio. I actually think that South Western Railway will allow to introduce more Class 701s in service in the new year and to allow the Class 458/4/5s that have been converted. That could perhaps operate them on the Alton line. With the Class 450 and Class 444 Desiros to continue operating them on the Portsmouth Direct line.
No level boarding is a nightmare for everyone regardless of ability. I kind of stepped of an Azuma at a station in Scotland with a heavy wheeled case and small rucksack and fell due to height and gap. I fell to ground and my arm and small rucksack fell between the platform edge and the train. Lucky I reacted fast and did not injure myself bad except bruising and somehow i still had a grasp of my now broken rucksack by one strap. I used trains for years all the time mostly without luggage and never did that before.
I was quite surprised when I visited the UK back in February and the only level boarding trains I saw the whole time were on the tube. I also noticed that the UK doesn't seem to have standard platform heights. That might be about the only thing the US does well train wise, uniform platform heights of either 8 inches for low boarding or 51 inches for level boarding, which means all level board US trains are step free.
Glad these are rolling out on more than just the Winsdor line. I was on the first 701 working from Windsor to Waterloo (albeit from Staines, 2 stops west of Feltham) earlier this year, as I only found out it was happening at about the time the train passed westbound on the first Waterloo to Windsor working. They're nice, and I much prefer a 2+2 with wide aisle (as per these) over a 3+2 and a tight squeeze (as per the Greater Anglia 720s), given a fixed seat width. It'll be sad to see the 455s go, although they're not that great for the Reading service taking 83 minutes from Waterloo, and the fact they're not great capacity-wise, as shorter vehicles (i think) as 4+4 forming an 8-car train. There's a reason SWT got the 2-car 456s, for increasing to 10-car on the busiest routes, except they went 2+ years ago now. Did you see Jago Hazzard at the event? His video beat yours out, although he doesn't talk to the camera so I guess it'd be easier for him to edit quickly.
Regarding what you were saying about level boarding which I agree 100% with you on I'm hoping that these Class 701's are amongst the last of their generation not to have level boarding, I know Southeastern have said they would like level boarding in their Networker replacement fleet. In a ideal world it would be great if the DfT would say that all new trains ordered have level boarding although it will be tricky for thing like the Elizabeth line because the trains meet the platform height in the core which I don't believe is the standard height so that's baked in without some very expensive work in the future
Hi Jen, a really great video as usual - thank you. However I notice that 'Arterio' anagrams neatly to 'A RIOTER'. I do hope that is not a sign of things to come on services. Sorry, I'll get me coat ..... keep up the fab work.
Great video again Jen, it certainly is one of yours when you get interrupted by "if you see.....etc" The step issue should have been sorted at the planning stage, not as an afterthought waiting to be dealt with.
They are decent looking trains, and spacious and light and bright inside, but steps up? Surely it can't be beyond the designers to do far better than this.
I understand SWR is going to be the first franchise to fold into "GBR" (in 2025) , which might be interesting as the Govt (Beyond "operatator of last resort") struggles, even with Peter Hendy's speaking of positive views. in the finance and operation of a (profitable) passenger service. with more London Commuting that the other ones thus far. Things like actually paying for, and the indebtedness of, the rolling stock and stations of the SWR network revert to the Govt Balance Sheet, along with a supposed stronger relationship of train operations and permanent way maintenance and enhancement. we shall see if this does deliver better value, for the passenger and the taxpayer. I doubt we will get though a useful evening half hourly from Hook to London which would be handy for me compared to the present hourly
I guess 701's are alright but to me it seems like 707s were pointless to get if they were just gonna get 701s a few years later. I will miss the 455s though. I already miss the 442s and 456s.
Check out Network Nathan here - www.youtube.com/@networknathan
Really liked his tank top!
Was lovely to finally meet you Jen. You're a star :)
Beautiful vlog (and hairy muff), proud of you for filming this 😁
Put your knickers on your head & shout I WANT A CUP CAKE 😄😄
When I heard Jen saying Hairy Muff I couldn't stop laughing 😂
Unleashed her inner G 😂
I did a thing!
@Sim0nTrains she’s rubbing off on me!
@@JenOnTheMoveG rubs off on all of us!
Jen the thing about your video's is no matter what the subject or who invite you to the place/ launch event it's impossible not to see your wonderful and honest opinion shine though. You just keep fliming stuff and we will all keep watching
Thank you!
Agrees totally
You've created a real gem of a video, despite any misgiving you may have had. Congratulations that you and Jago have covered the same event in a totally different and unique manner, both superb x
So glad you managed to finally get to a press event!
"Can you smell that?" no, but I wish TH-cam had a scratch 'n' sniff feature.
that would come with a hardware requirement at both ends- so video makers would need the ability to record (and edit) smells, and video watchers would need to have the equipment to produce the smells as indicated by the video
Well done Jen, the girl did good.
And you didn’t miss out on a corporate cup cake.
Totally agree with you about level boarding. It's something that should be a solved problem for all new trains. Unfortunately while a small number of trains in the UK are being rolled out with level boarding, the majority of manufacturers seem to want to stick with their outdated designs with limited accessibility, and there seems to be no pressure on them to change.
I know train ordering takes many years, so there are likely non-level boarding trains in the pipeline. However, the UK needs to draw a line in the sand and state that no further trains will be ordered without level boarding.
Hopefully you'll pop over to Dublin when the new DART units enter service, which do all have level boarding!
Amen and two thumbs up!
Benefits of these types of events is getting the train to yourself. Video still felt very much like a Jen video 👍
Excellent vlog Jen! Excellent to meet you on the day and see some of the BTS of this being put together (think we made a good call going to the other end of the train, regardless of the extra steps 🤣)
I think you made a good video too! Inviting the transport youtubers along to events like this - and the videos you already make anyway - are a great way to convey fascination with public transport to the public while also creating and feeding productive conversations about needed improvements to the system as a whole and in detail. It is clear to see from the videos that the several youtubers that were invited along to this were not prevented from voicing criticisms and offering transparency. It's a good PR move by SWR.
Brilliant video Jen, good to see the 701 Arterio trains are now in service, they do look nice. :)
I love how these trains still have Celia Drummond as the voice announcer and not Elinor Hamilton
I suppose you can't complain about Northern being late when these trains are five years late 😂😂😂
But joking aside, they do look good trains apart from the issue of level boarding
Great video from you Jen thank you.🙏
Also wanted Jago’s launch vid earlier and you certainly highlight some other interesting points.
I salute anyone who shares their passion to make great informative videos on any topic, but I’m drawn to train and transport
I like that we live in a world where people can cover the same event and come up with completely different videos 😃
Jen has the power in the cab! ( laughs wickedly as she sees it and says it to the others).
It’s about time I had my revenge 😂
You have made a really good film - not least because 'you do what you do' with your usual hints of humour - and well done for calling them out on the level access issue. Too many people in the wrong jobs, as ever - and it's great that you enjoyed it too!
I like your videos and I like you ! Your passion shines through , quirky sense of humour and most importantly I always learn something from your videos so thank you !
Nice, honest and thoughtful look at these new trains. Glad to see them in service.
Thanks Rob!
Great video Jen - I’m looking forward to when we get the new trains on the Dorking line. Well done for raising the comment about level boarding. With the current SWR trains it’s such a huge step down I always feel anxious getting off the train , especially if my knee is playing me up. With all the awareness about accessibility these days you would think they would have thought that through by now . I really enjoy your videos - keep up the good work.
Hi Jen,
Great video of you with the new SWR trains. That just shows how much notice is taken of you and other You Tubers, you provide a valuable and important service. Also, it's not everyone that gets a chance to see inside the cab, especially on a new train, so well done you. Carry on doing what you do so well.
See you next time,
Jon B. 🙂
Very nice video Jen. Loved that you avoided much of the corporate stuff. Looking forward to using these trains next year (I think) when they start serving the Hounslow Loop. Keep doing what you're doing. ☺️ P.S. Feltham looks better in the fog so you didn't miss anything.
this was a good video, a good evaluation of the new units
A very good video, with all the elements you expect from a Jen video!! Experiment successful I would say
Great video Jen i often go to Feltham to get to Heathrow 😊
Great video and glad you enjoyed the ride !
Great video as usual Jen! If I remember correctly, Merseyrail did work with a group of regular users of the network to help with the design process of the 777 trains, and took on their feedback when it came to the final design. They also had to adjust the height of the platforms at every station, so that they would be level with the train floor. They had to close the network off in stages in order to do that.
Merseyrail prove that it is possible if the political will is there!
I love new trains. The people who will ride this on a daily basis are very lucky in deed. Great video thanks, Jen.
Great video Jen the arterio will be replace the older class 455 trains which will run on the SWR suburban services from London Waterloo
Yay for cupcakes!
Informative!! You did a good job on this video.
Thank you!
It was great to see inside the cabs! On my local line we get level boarding with a bit that sticks out of the train on some, but not all, of the services. Could be anything that's not a 153 or a 150 but I'm not sure about that; I think all the new ones have them and the old ones are going away.
Hi Jen,
I appreciate your honest and quite valid criticism with accessability with these new trains.
Unlike another frequent and verbose TH-camr who covers London-based train travel, you hit the nail on the head that people with limited mobility, especially those with wheelchairs, cannot safely board these new trains.
Yes, a large part of the problem are the antiquated station platforms, networkwise.
But, for those stations that built their platforms, supposedly for level boarding, still lack accessability for those of limited mobility to these new trains.
What I find incredible is that the people who designed these trains could have built in an automated door extension that would roll at stops and bridge the gap between carriage and station platform.
Goodness sakes, this is not a new technology, because you see this tech on many types of new trams and trains.
Jen, keep up the good work and thanks for looking out not just the able-bodied, but all of us.
the SWR class 701 Arterio trains look amazing & even tho some have been in service this year i still haveent been on one yet but its on my list of new trains that i need to check out at some point & it should def happen during 2025 brilliant vlog
Oh dear, 455s days are numbered now 😢
I'm not too gutted about that. 455s are like ovens in the summer, and damp and miserable in the winter. These new trains look and feel so much better.
They have been saying this since 2019 though. 😂
5:17 'My hairy muff setting off the water' PMSL but this was still a Jen video and enjoyable as well, Those Class 701s remind me of the Class 730/0s for West Midlands Trains
Nice video. Now two of my favourite TH-camrs (You and Jago Hazzard) have done a video on this event. Just waiting for Geoff to Pop up.
Someone in the press department appreciates what you and other TH-camrs do, and how you do it.
Just wish I lived in a country where we still had trains.
It is definitely a Jen video thumb 👍 up from me! ❤
Excellent. Well done Jen. You're a rail celeb.
The 701s will really help on the longer suburban routes.
The souvenirs look lovely.
I wouldn’t go as far as celeb 😂
I do think that the new Class 701 Arterio will soon be used on the Chessington South, Weybridge, Dorking, Woking, Reading and Aldershot routes from next year. Plus nice to see Network Nathan on your video. The Class 455 do need replacing because they are getting so old.
Was lovely meeting you in Wolverhampton the other day 😊😊😊
That's your exercise for the day lol, they cakes looked good and great video x
Yaya Network Nathan!!
They're good looking trains.
8:09 Jen's revenge!
Thanks for doing this video Jen.
You are spot on with the level boarding thing. Liverpool sorted this out. London is failing it's disabled passengers.
The big problem is that the platforms are not the correct height for sliding step trains. In Liverpool they actually shut lines and ripped out platforms prior to buying 777 trains. In London the train operating companies are not pushing for that to happen and the Mayor of London is unable to force it to happen.
The other thing that is a big problem with level boarding in London is that both Thameslink and Crossrail raised up platforms in the core of London...instead of lowering the train hight to the standard platform height. In a country where trains run from one area to another area, we can not have one height for Central London and a different height for Liverpool. It will cost a lot of money to fix Thameslink and Crossrail. And we can not change every other platform instead of fixing those platforsm.
Nice to see Network Nathan taking a ride on the Class 701 Arterio. I actually think that South Western Railway will allow to introduce more Class 701s in service in the new year and to allow the Class 458/4/5s that have been converted.
That could perhaps operate them on the Alton line. With the Class 450 and Class 444 Desiros to continue operating them on the Portsmouth Direct line.
No level boarding is a nightmare for everyone regardless of ability. I kind of stepped of an Azuma at a station in Scotland with a heavy wheeled case and small rucksack and fell due to height and gap. I fell to ground and my arm and small rucksack fell between the platform edge and the train. Lucky I reacted fast and did not injure myself bad except bruising and somehow i still had a grasp of my now broken rucksack by one strap. I used trains for years all the time mostly without luggage and never did that before.
I was quite surprised when I visited the UK back in February and the only level boarding trains I saw the whole time were on the tube. I also noticed that the UK doesn't seem to have standard platform heights. That might be about the only thing the US does well train wise, uniform platform heights of either 8 inches for low boarding or 51 inches for level boarding, which means all level board US trains are step free.
They look good 👍🏻
Glad these are rolling out on more than just the Winsdor line. I was on the first 701 working from Windsor to Waterloo (albeit from Staines, 2 stops west of Feltham) earlier this year, as I only found out it was happening at about the time the train passed westbound on the first Waterloo to Windsor working. They're nice, and I much prefer a 2+2 with wide aisle (as per these) over a 3+2 and a tight squeeze (as per the Greater Anglia 720s), given a fixed seat width.
It'll be sad to see the 455s go, although they're not that great for the Reading service taking 83 minutes from Waterloo, and the fact they're not great capacity-wise, as shorter vehicles (i think) as 4+4 forming an 8-car train. There's a reason SWT got the 2-car 456s, for increasing to 10-car on the busiest routes, except they went 2+ years ago now.
Did you see Jago Hazzard at the event? His video beat yours out, although he doesn't talk to the camera so I guess it'd be easier for him to edit quickly.
I am loving your recent content, even the ones about new stations that are boring (the stations, not the videos).
Thank you!
1:55 on extreme left, is that Jago?
You can blue seating on the class 159, 444, 450, 458/4 and class 484
Saw the magic disappearing BTP officer on the train
Great video the space and the imformation screens look a bit like the 730 train.
A goodie bag/badge usually works for Jen
Cowbell! \m/
Regarding what you were saying about level boarding which I agree 100% with you on I'm hoping that these Class 701's are amongst the last of their generation not to have level boarding, I know Southeastern have said they would like level boarding in their Networker replacement fleet.
In a ideal world it would be great if the DfT would say that all new trains ordered have level boarding although it will be tricky for thing like the Elizabeth line because the trains meet the platform height in the core which I don't believe is the standard height so that's baked in without some very expensive work in the future
Good afternoon Jen are those units made by Alstom ?
Usual great video 😊
Yes they are!
Hi Jen, a really great video as usual - thank you. However I notice that 'Arterio' anagrams neatly to 'A RIOTER'. I do hope that is not a sign of things to come on services. Sorry, I'll get me coat ..... keep up the fab work.
Great video again Jen, it certainly is one of yours when you get interrupted by "if you see.....etc" The step issue should have been sorted at the planning stage, not as an afterthought waiting to be dealt with.
They are decent looking trains, and spacious and light and bright inside, but steps up? Surely it can't be beyond the designers to do far better than this.
Were you the one that kept playing those announcements when Jago Hazzard was filming? 😂😂
It was a very good video.
I just worry that with this amount of delay, they are going to end up like the Class 180s in terms of reliability.
If I had a pound for every time I’ve been to Waterloo station over the last 29 years
I’d have about £4 😂
Probably the end for the class 455s now then
yay, 5 in service out of 90 lol
I understand SWR is going to be the first franchise to fold into "GBR" (in 2025) , which might be interesting as the Govt (Beyond "operatator of last resort") struggles, even with Peter Hendy's speaking of positive views. in the finance and operation of a (profitable) passenger service. with more London Commuting that the other ones thus far. Things like actually paying for, and the indebtedness of, the rolling stock and stations of the SWR network revert to the Govt Balance Sheet, along with a supposed stronger relationship of train operations and permanent way maintenance and enhancement. we shall see if this does deliver better value, for the passenger and the taxpayer. I doubt we will get though a useful evening half hourly from Hook to London which would be handy for me compared to the present hourly
So when do these come into squadron service?
Thwy look strange without a class 47 onbthe front
Is it me or is the name "Arterio" just stupid. It means artery in reference to the suburban lines. But isn't that every line
SWR
What happened to the BTP officer? He was walking towards you on the train then disappeared 😂
I’d normally make a joke about the police at this point but actually the BTP aren’t too bad!
What's his link?
There’s a pinned comment… I’m on the move right now so can’t easily drop one here!
Why are they playing the ‘Grandstand’ theme??
i thought Geoff said they launched 10 months ago in his video?
This was the official launch, he was on the first day in service… there’s often a gap between the two events
I guess 701's are alright but to me it seems like 707s were pointless to get if they were just gonna get 701s a few years later. I will miss the 455s though. I already miss the 442s and 456s.
Your hair needs some fresh up ❤❤❤