London’s BRAND-NEW commuter train has one big problem…
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ย. 2024
- This is the UK's newest commuter train... sort of!
I'm riding the SWR Class 458/4, a recent addition to the South Western Railway fleet, dating back to the days of South West Trains.
Travelling from Weybridge to London Waterloo through the busy train station of Clapham Junction, I'll be checking out this Class 458 refurbishment, and discussing the uncertain future of the Class 458 Juniper.
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Journey Details:
Origin: Weybridge
Destination: London Waterloo
Company: South Western Railway
Train: UK Class 458/4 (Coradia Juniper)
Accommodation: Standard Class Seat (2nd)
Distance: 30 miles / 48 kilometres
Price: £8.55 (€10.10 / $10.80)
Time: 1 hour 23 minutes, arrived 3 minutes early
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"Refurbishment" but they can't even be bothered to give the trains a deep cleaning and replace stuff that's actually broken haha.
Southwestern Railway (SWR) are STILL running trains in the colours of the former franchise South West Trains (SWT).....SEVEN years after SWR took over. I find that abit funny but there you go. How much are the big bosses at SWR getting??? ...and yet they can't be bothered to paint all their trains in the colours of SWR. Shocking really.
@@robtyman4281i mean some like the stagecoach liverys like i liked the old 444, 450, 158 and 159 but they cant be bothered to repaint some 158s and 159s which i like them in the stagecoach liverys but the only train that looks good in the swr livery is the 458
I travel frequently on the 444 to Weymouth. The service has degraded significantly under SWR. No buffet trolley anymore (for what can be a 3 hour journey) 1 train an hour on busy summer Sundays when it’s packed with people coming back from Weymouth and it’s unusual to have all the toilets working
Changing from SWT to SWR exemplifies everything that's wrong with the franchise model, that one of the best performing franchises that regularly generated profits and grew ridership and capacity could be replaced by mediocrity.
@@robtyman4281 The reason is because SWR thought they were going to replace them with the class 701s back in 2019, but there have been epic delivery teething issues and there are still only a couple of units in service. No point in painting trains you are expecting to scrap imminently. I think if they'd known it would take this long, then they might have done it back then.
They are adverised as 'Barnes' because it is the slow service to waterloo to avoid confusion with the more direct ones
It confused me, because I thought the train was cancelled! 💀
Yes, it's the same going from Waterloo. I think it advertises as going to "Virginia Water" on the board. I use to work in Chertsey so used the service often from Ashford, but no one should really be using it to go from Weybridge to Waterloo so it makes sense
@@a1white it says “Addlestone” at Waterloo. Same with Kingston rounders which say “Teddington” if starting via
Putney, or “Strawberry Hill” if starting via Wimbledon. Because leaving Waterloo with a destination of Waterloo would be silly 😂
Yep, that's quite common on most of the network when there's a fast train and a much slower all-stations train. The fast train is advertised as going to the destination; the slow train is advertised as going to the destination at stations where it's the only train that stops, and to one stop before the destination at stations where there's a fast train that will get you there first.
Happens with, e.g., the Leeds-York stopping train being advertised as going to Poppleton and the London-Cambridge stoppers as going to Foxton.
Having said that, it's strange that _all_ the trains are advertised as going to Barnes. Normally, they'd say "Barnes" for the slow trains and "London Waterloo" for the fast ones, so that people who are going to Waterloo will wait for the fast train that departs later but arrives earlier. If the only trains are slow stoppers, the sign ought to say "London Waterloo", as taking that train is the only choice.
>Describes Weybridge as "basic".
>It has an inside, ticket barriers, a coffee stand and a library.
Yeah, that's not basic at all.
"This station is pretty basic" for a station with four ticket machines, a ticket office/booking hall, takeaway coffee shop, decent waiting room and lifts to/from the footbridge. That's not my definition of "pretty basic"
8:45 Well done u fixed the service from further delay
Not really the door got stuck opening it would have closed on its own accord.
@@flightsimmer9809 thats not a given
@flightsimmer9809 😂 unlikely... it looked like the door hadn't been set up correctly.
So with its current position on that platform, its likely it would have just done the same after another attempt.
The guard would then have to follow their troubleshooting procedure.
If the door's serviceability is questioned, they may even terminate the service and seek engineering attendance either in a siding or at the depot.
Door issues are something that TOCs, drivers and guards don't take lightly.
@@richardwillson101 i am fully aware of what drivers and guards do with doors having been a driver for a number of years. The door got stuck opening on closing it would have closed.
@flightsimmer9809 erm, you may drive.
But please explain the technical details of the 458 doors to me 👍
The chances are, the doors would have continued to do the same based on the way they were set out of overhaul.
On that cant, in that platform you are looking at repeated failure.
At best they get isolated, closed and locked out of use.
At worst its a failure in service and withdrawal.
Every commuter train has at least one disadvantage. At LEAST! But a new video is a new adventure! 😄
Indeed it is! 😁
@@SuperalbsTravels And 25 years old means it's "brand-new", for some reason! 🤣
@@memespert 25 year old trains are perfectly fine but not brand new. I would say 40 year old trains with proper maintanence work really well, and even a 60-70 year old train can provide good service. The oldest train I have travelled on is almost 100 years old, has been in regular service for around 70 years and is now kept as a sort of nostalgia train (also you are not supposed to know but they put a new train controlling computer and sensors and a bunch of pipes in so it can run on the modern network)
Idk I'm pretty happy with Stadler FLIRT commuter trains.
SWR, another example (like Southeastern), of a privatised monopoly on routes into and out of Waterloo. They have no competitors on most of their routes, so they charge what they like and provide sub-standard quality.
6:44 is painfully relatable as an SWR commuter... It's been downhill ever since the First/MTR takeover. Dwindling reliability, poor service quality, the half-arsed Desiro refurbishment, plans to close literally every ticket office on the network, millions wasted on fleet cascades that never happened, and the Arterio fleet is 5 years late and counting. I cannot wait for the day when First is finally stripped of their contract, and I shall be very jubilant the day that happens.
Me too! They've been an absolute disaster, frankly.
The contract expires on 25th May 2025. Given that's only 9 months away, I think the contract will run to expiry.
@@SuperalbsTravels: I couldn’t understand why South Western Railway lost the franchise; they had a history of steady improvement, and a much more customer-focussed attitude.
They decided to scrap the despatch office at Waterloo, which was staffed by folks from both SW and Network Rail. No surprise punctuality suffered . added to this scrapping the 442s, And any time you want to travel between Andover /Southampton / Reading / Woking/ Guildford outside the summer months there's a fair chance the above stations will look like a highway bus station instead .
This train set with the nice livery is what you call "Putting lipstick on a pig!"
They’ve wasted millions of them over the years
Hahahah true
Just read Crosscountry are going to solve their overcrowding problems by painting their trains red.
Polishing a turd
There's nowt wrong with pigs.
It likely says Barnes as the destination as the Waterloo services via Wimbledon are much more direct
Exactly this. Stops passengers for stations between Barnes and Waterloo from taking that train as it’s a far longer journey.
Although it says Barnes as its final destination at a certain point this will change to Waterloo. Possibly after just the first station.
@@rockerjim8045more than likely advertised as a Waterloo service from Virginia Water.
@@rockerjim8045 They do this on the Southeastern High Speed services from St Pancras to St Pancras via the Kent coast -- on leaving St Pancras, they are advertised as terminating at Margate or Sandwich, then the destination changes further along the route.
@@markcf83 probably doesn’t change until after Feltham, this service takes the Hounslow loop whereas the Reading and Windsor trains go the more direct route via Richmond. It may even be a case that it goes back and forth along the route as stations like Chertsey and Addlestone aren’t served by any other direct Waterloo Trains.
I visited Weybridge several times on business. I remember it for several reasons, one of which is that it is practically on the doorstep of the old Brooklands Motor Racing circuit. Another thing I remember Weybridge for was what I saw outside the station building (@0:46): This brand new Mercedes sports car pulls up and this lady steps out and she is the most glamorous, most beautiful woman I had seen in my life up to that point. I'll never forget that moment.
Also a good place to watch the main line services come through at full speed, especially when there's frost on the rails and a load of arcing.
7:03 Savage but accurate description of Staines
Hahahaha 🤣
I'm glad someone else noticed that hahaha
Yup. Adding "-upon-Thames" in an effort to rebrand and destigmatise its reputation don't cut it.
They’re advertised as Barnes so that passengers for Waterloo use the mainline services instead, which are much faster. Passengers for Putney and Wandsworth Town would be faster still to traverse via Clapham Jn on the mainline services.
Yes. They do this kind of thing all over the network. For example, the Leeds-York all-stations stoppers are advertised as Leeds-Poppleton.
"brand new" which is actually 30years old with a badly applied blotch of paint and stained carpets seems like a perfect example of the uk rail industry
well hungary did the same thing a few years ago used old shitty train cars, put in ac, removed a few doors, changed the interior and then called it the IC+
@oPlazmaMC Yeah but Hungary doesn't consider or advertise itself as the richest place in Europe, unlike the UK
Pretty sure Germany is the wealthiest country in Europe.
@@technoita well the cars are adverised as top tech when the inside panels are offset of each other because they were put together in a maintanence facility, not a train car making factory
@oPlazmaMC that's just disappointing then yeah
No mold tho at least, i hope
The train is very exciting - it even has a fungus laboratory onboard
Privatisiation working as intended then. Introduce the cheapest possible replacement and charge the highest possible price to ride them.
☹️☹️☹️
All for shareholders pockets run as a business not a service like British Rail
@@AlanAlanAlan161 it is private enterprise that pays your benefits, laddie. The socialist state under your mob no more built the railways than they built the expensive iphone on which you wrote your nonsense. As it happens, I am not at all a fan of the current franchising model, which was doomed to failure- but then it had to be compliant with the eu model so beloved by you left wingers. Had it been returned to the concept of the big four groups we could have seen world-class railways once more. But that's socialism for you- a race to the bottom largely driven by the weak and gullible.
Will nationalisation really result in decent trains on this line? I have a feeling it’s not that simple!
Haven't passenger numbers more than doubled since privatisation, despite increased home working?
My memory of that approach to Waterloo pre-dated all those awful high-rise blocks. There were many places where the view was of the other bank of the Thames. It looks pretty dire nowadays.
In the late 60s or early 70s the area between the railway line and the river was mainly brick factories, one of which was Airfix. I looked out for it on every trip to Waterloo in my early teens, when model making was the thing.
How do you know it's mould? Could be stains from soap cleaning. Not necessarily disgusting. What is disgusting is the way people use them, worse still if they have no tickets!
Route into Charring Cross via London Bridge and Waterloo East cant be beaten, you get to see Tower Bridge, St Pauls Cathedral, Houses of Parliament, London Eye and the River Thames.
You cannot tell me SWR didn’t check over the walls before putting these trains back into service and they just swept past bloody mould, in a first class section too. Disgusting
It is shocking, only 5 days in service too!
😒😒😒
Someone probably spilt their coffee down the wall.
That’s not mold, come on. Get a grip of yourself
@@daroldcarold3443 Would you like to explain what it is then? You clearly think you know better.
arrival is three minutes early - as a German I get tears in my eyes.
I always wonder how many people have been priced out of central London when I see those shiny tower blocks. When I lived in the UK thirty years ago, the approach into Waterloo was quite a bit different. I really loved the Class 442 running between Waterloo and Southampton.
Whatever your complaints are, it's still not a Pacer, which many non-London travellers sufferred for 40 years.
Mind you of all the Coradia Junipers this could've been at least this wasn't a 175 or we'd be discussing its explosive tendancies
@@FarmYard-Trains Gonna be riding those on local trains around Exeter at some point in the future , so might get a chance to experience that .
Probably no worse than a Mercedes Citaro?
@@arch9enius Only one way to find out!
@@FarmYard-Trains You first I insist . :)
Those toilets looked as if they were excluded on the refurbishment, and that typeface used looks like they were put up by South West Trains. You could argue in that sense it is quite lucky they arent at this point allocated to the Portsmouth direct line, given expectations are higher on long distance services of at least 1hr 30min, compared to exceptionally indirect services around London suburbs
You should ride the Finnish "Santa Claus Express" when it's christmas season. 😉
What’s the fare from Weybridge?
@@johngardner5636uhh 8 smht pounds
@@johngardner5636Too much.
@@NaenaeGamingso I’m not going to Finland
@@johngardner5636uhh, 8 pounds or something if i remember right
Trains have certainly changed a lot since I used to use them on a regular basis back in the 70's and 80's. Coach style seating simply was not a thing back then on trains, thus no matter what seat you sat in you always had a full window to look out of, not just half a window like you get in a lot of seats today. I had to smile when you pushed down on the seat and exclaimed about just how generous they were with the padding, a mere fraction of the padding we used to get. Trains may have been dirtier back then, but the seats were extremely comfortable. I remember the south eastern region had a mixture of what must have been a good 4 or 5 inches of foam seat cushions, plus plenty still with proper sprung seat bases. The later only a fool would dare bang their hand down on the cushion - a plume of dust would rise if they did. That said, with the exception of the very shortest commuter rides I would much prefer the old seats - complete with the dust!
A massive issue, not uprating the power output when increasing the gear ratio.
Class 458/4s accelerate basly due to negligence of acceleration. They used to be 75mph capped, now they are 100mph capable (as they were initially
The reason the faster trains were removed was because of famillies sueing the railway companies due to jumpers. The last one a month ago in Teddington.
The reason why at Weybridge it says it was going to Barnes is because if the timetable said London Waterloo,everyone would get confused which way it goes
It still amazes me that even London's commuter railways aren't electric.
A new video! This review video will help me when I go to the UK. Thanks Superalbs!
That's really poor. Reminds me of shops that buy and "refurbish" your iPhone by cleaning your screen in 10 seconds and then selling it for double the price. This needs a lot more work, it's shambolic and pretty disgusting. But, I have to thank you, because, you kind of inspired me to go on obscure commuter trains in my country. I mostly just want to see how crappy the trains are, but, there's also some fabulous hiking and snacking opportunities, and I am still waiting for a train to break down in the middle of nowhere :(
Sounds fun! :)
In Japan *all* trains are on time. You can't rely on British trains. This service is luxury to what we get in the North.
Love the bit of NSE branding on the entrance to Weybridge.
It's always fun to see! 😁
I can only assume they put Barnes on the departure board to prevent passengers filling up the slower stopping services when they can take a more direct service to Waterloo on another train. The same happens at Reading with GWR/EL services towards London. The departure board will say Ealing Broadway rather than Paddington.
Maybe!
It used to in the Network South East / Thames Trains / Great Western Link / Great Western / TfL Rail days. Elizabeth Line services are now advertised as "Abbey Wood".
That's rather convoluted.. They could simply append NON-STOP to the faster ones or something like that.
Weybridge has always had lifts. They used to be mainly used for Royal Mail. They were however used occassionally for wheelchair passengers.
That's interesting! Thanks.
The 442 was refurbished and brought back into service, but due to too many faults it was again withdrawn. The 458 was never taken out of service it has always been in service. It has been refurbished and shortened to a 4 coach train. So it's called a 458/4. It was supposed to be on the mainline towards Portsmouth. But at the moment will be on suburban commuter routes.
I well remember the old slam door trains , as it pulled into the station doors would open long before it stopped and people would just jump out hit the ground running and carry on as usual .
Great days
London's railways the best in the country. Of course they are, that is the part of the country our politicians care about. Where I am a basic station is a platform with a shelter for smokers.
Once the Class 701s are fully in service, the poorly-refurbished Class 458s would get withdrawn from service. I'm from Shanghai actually and yes, it's a good place to visit. Love from China! You should also check out the Chinese HSR from Beijing to Shanghai running at 350 km/h.
25 year old trains arent the problem its the fact that they lie about it
the 458/5s weren't ever actually withdrawn. just disappearing one by one to be refurbished. you can still see a few running around today.
Indeed, but they were planned to be withdrawn.
@@SuperalbsTravels the 458s are actually only doing part time work on commuter trains, they are intended to run Portsmouth via Guildford fast trains once the 701s fully enter service
the fact that they were originally intended for the portsmouth direct line with those “seats” is shockijgmand also unsurprising for what happened to the 450s and 444s during their “refurbishment”
So instead we have to suffer the cramped 3+2 seating on the 450 on lines to Portsmouth, whereas people on the shorter distance commuter lines get to bring their shoulders with them when they travel
Weybridge is my local station! The platform 3 Barnes service gets you to Waterloo in about 1hr11min, and is meant for travelling to the intermediate stops e.g. Virginia Water, Chertsey, Staines etc. - There are fast Waterloo services via Surbiton on platform 2 anywhere from 24min non-stop to about 35min regularly.
Hey mate. You were just two stops down the line from me! Nice review. I used to commute on the 458/0s on this line in the early 2010s. I've always thought they had very comfy seats, but apart from that, I prefer the Desiros by a long shot. It's good to see these units getting a tart up, but it's a shame they didn't do a proper job. Some of the grotty grimey stuff you showed is really shoddy. They've obviously spent as little as humanly possible and focused on just rebranding and "icing on the cake" stuff. I can only imagine they don't intend to keep them for a long long time (mind you, if the 455s are anything to go by, it could be another 15 years. lol).
I was on a Great Western train from Swansea travelling to Bristol. I was convinced there was something wrong with my seat as it was strangely lumpy and very uncomfortable so I moved to another seat only to find that they are all the same! I find it hard to believe that anyone could manage to design a seat as uncomfortable as this! Next time I am unlucky enough to have to use this service I will bring a cushion of my own to sit on.
I use this train everyday and can relate to the video so much.
It's Funny That A Class 458 Is 25 Years Old!
I think it says Barnes on all services cause they want to encourage you to get a quicker service that goes via Wimbledon. The 458 toilets hardly ever work anyway prior to it got refurbished, that unit only looks like the main searing areas have only been refurbished. Not the toilets.
That’s all swr pay for the toilets are not part of the refurbishment except the grab handels
This Weybridge to Waterloo route via Barnes is standard throughout Weekday services at Weekends it changes to Woking. This was very handy for me as I was based in Staines and was visiting Exeter.
Surprise, surprise! First Group involved again in another sub-standard company!
Last group.
Bros expecting Japanese level of luxury and perfection.
Weybridge definitely isn't classed as a minor station, it serves a large town and is DFT categoried as C which is the same status as Plymouth, Tamworth, and Grantham. Middle distance mainline trains also call at Weybridge to Basingstoke and occasionally further afield to Alton, long distance trains also do serve it from Poole in Dorset and Southampton Central on some evenings and weekends
After SWT had problems with these trains originally, they did improve remarkably, with a win of the 'golden spanner' award from Modern Railways one year for UK's most reliable electric train. This was long before the rebuild late under SWT management where they were lengthened to 5 -car using the intermediate trailer vehicles from the similar ex Gatwick Express trains. It was newly appointed SWR who then made the decision to dispose of them while their 442 reinstatement plan commenced and they were waiting for their new inner suburban trains from Bombardier, now Alstom (still waiting for most of them...).
from what I've heard the 442s scrapping was due them failing to trigger a Red signal in some places on the Mainline.
Interesting. They never did reveal the true reason officially.
I chatted at a friend’s birthday party to a railway engineer who was in charge of Class 442 maintenance and repairs. He said the main reason they were initially withdrawn was that they were unreliable and a nightmare to maintain in acceptable condition.
@@SuperalbsTravels It was the new 'traction package' that they put in instead of leaving the old REP motors. They couldn't cope with the Pompey Direct.
They were alright in SWR days when I was based at Bomo and worked them from Pompey.
It gets advertised as Barnes because it would confuse people going to London Waterloo which go from Platform 2. Your service takes a lot longer into London compared to those which depart from Platform 2 there at Weybridge
They advertise it as Barnes as faster services run through to Clapham Junction, Vauxhall and London Waterloo and also not to confuse passengers so they take the longer way.
Despite the large number of assertions of problems with the 442s returning to service, these were much the same as the teething problems of any other class and would have been resolved, but the first was barely returned to service for testing when the pandemic struck. Significant service reductions soon followed leaving a surplus of trains and this meant that the need for them had disappeared. Once it became clear that this situation would continue for some time, the project was stopped simply to save the rest of the cost.
Thank you for an interesting clip on a train from England.The dirty condition of the train you were on, & the out of order toilet.And terrible condition of the other one you were in, is very similar to the train I was recently on in New South Wales Australia.Unfortunately we have that in common on our trains from our respective countries.But I enjoyed your programme, so once again thank you.
The whole refurbishment feels quite lazy because all they did is put in new seats but if they tried harder the new trains could have been better.
Ha ha, we used to say that Feltham was twinned with Beirut twenty years ago. Diverted round that way on A Wloo service from Salisbury it wasn't unusual to see a few burnt out cars on wasteland.
Built up now.
Oh wow! 😭
I’ve been missing the uploads!
I wonder what percentage of the fare cross-subsidises travel on the Hong Kong MTR, the high speed link of which, between the airport and the urban centre was already FANTASTIC when I travelled on it around twenty two years ago.
The privatised UK system is very expensive, slow and obsolete by international comparison. For a hilarious account of how we’ve arrived at where we are, do read a book called Eleven Minutes Late. It’s very funny and informative.
My pet hate is how so many carriage seats are lined up not with a window but a pillar which obstructs the view of our lovely landscapes passing by quite slowly😉
Many of those commuter rail stations in the UK actually have had lifts since the 1950s/1960s but have had them fully replaced in more recent years.
No idea why they couldn't have just preserved the 442's and used them for railtours. But NO. They decided to scrap them, which was a waste of time AND money.
They needed more refurbishment than was viable.
Sorry, who is paying for a railtour on a 442?!?
@@blinard1 Well, you just answered that yourself. There's only one Class 442 power car left. Just use MK3 coaches as replacement for the other scrapped coaches.
@@TheosTrainsWalesOfficial no idea what you are talking about.
Basically they messed up the upgrade when they wanted to upgrade the motor coach and traction motors from DC to AC.
Awful front end, surely any streamlining with the slope is negated by the corridor connection. You're spot on with the traffic south of the river, I used to work near the line through Surbiton, you sometimes couldn't hear the gap between trains from a distance!
That train was in horrendous condition,cheers fella 👍
Yes it was! Thanks for watching. :)
Weybridge Station burnt down sometime in the late 80s, when I used to go to college there was one of the yellow towable trailers being used as a tempory ticket office, when they started the building of the current station building you had to enter and exit the station from the other side of the station.
My 458 is my favorite model. I think that they are just using it bad, this train is one of the best commuter suburban services. This is a commuter train
They are really nice overall.
ONLY 25 years old??? If Northern Rail had any trains less than 40 years old in the North East, I'd collapse with shock! By the lack of many opening windows, presumably the 458s had Air Con? Such luxuries are unheard of up here!
Both the mainline CEP/CIG and suburban EPB slammers were in service on the SR for 40 years. Same story for some of the AC units north of the Thames e.g. the LTS "Misery Line" 302s. They were all in a pretty poor state when plastics replaced them. If you're dealing with 150s and the like I can sympathise but pretty much every commuter group has been through it too at some point.
Umm A lot of Northern's fleet is fairly new. The oldest is 40 years old (class 150), but the youngest is 4 years old (Class 195 and 331).
Most of Northern's fleet are well under 40 years old since the new-ish Civities replaced the pacers. Only the two oldest class 150's are exactly 40 years old.
Oh dear, you either collapse a lot or don't travel by train very often.
@@nathanw9770 But in the North East, we don't have any of these Civities - there are only 158s which date back to the 90s and 156s which date from the 80s - both being originally British Rail trains.
As ever, refurbishment usually means just the aesthetic look of the thing rather than a full makeover because it's cheaper.
South Western Railway could use them on the London Waterloo-Aldershot and Alton route. With the rest of the Class 701 Arterio fleet to start operating on the suburban lines and Reading service.
Reintroducing a 25 year old train? That sounds familiar to Regiobahn when they decided to replace their Talent diesels for the even older Integral S5D95. 17 units were build until the company went bankrupt. They were known for their technical problems and their age didn't help them either. If you're interested in taking a ride on them, they serve the S28 Kaarst, Düsseldorf, Mettmann, Wuppertal. Also theoretically the RE47 as well but half of the fleet is broken so busses run instead.
I was once at Düsseldorf Hbf and witnessed live how an S28 was cancelled because the unit operating the service broke down at Flingern. Another S28 trip had already been dropped that day so by that point only like 60% of the scheduled S28 trips ran 😂
I like your segue to arriving at Staines. Well played.
This is essentially unwatchable - I don't know if its just me, but there is an advert every few minutes! Thought you may wish to know, as the content is great - but adverts every few minutes really spoils your great work.
Hardly a secret mate. We recognise the trains we have been riding for years with new seat covers. We’re not fucking stupid.
I heard the Class 442s were withdrawn after their short return due to poor reliability. Seemed mad to me to replace 25 year old trains with 40 year old trains...
It will be interesting to see what SWR do with these units, as they should be replaced on suburban services by the new Aventra fleet. Although that fleet has been delayed for so long, i suppose any semblance of the original "plan" is out the window at this point
Checks out as they let me down a couple times. During exam season of all times...
They certainly could do with a good clean, how do they let rolling stock get mould in the carriage after a week. Excellent video highlighting the short comings of the trains.
I use this train daily to get to college, and it’s surprising that they’re still working; even more surprising is that they were considered one of Britain’s best. Windows filled with mouldy water. Seat cushions falling off. Bins not opening. Doors only working half of the time. It’s such a shame they’ve been allowed to get to this state because they really were so pleasant. I was hoping more from the refurb, particularly new screens inside, and installing new windows. Then again, I’m not surprised from SWR. Their contract is at its end, and they still haven’t fully introduced the trains they wanted to when they were awarded it 😭😭
SWR contract has been a disaster, it's safe to say!
It's funny when you said it's only a minor station and it's triple the size of the average Australian city station 😂
The station building at Weybridge was rebuilt in the mid-1980s as the original LSWR station building caught fire.
I literally became speechless bc of the route, since it was my first one, from Weybridge to Waterloo too
Idk if it was the same train or not, but I remember that the tables were different, with a different texture when you open them
Hamburg S-Bahn featured surprisingly whooo \o/ Throw me a memo when you come here next time 😬
I'll pass through London on October 3rd, but not going on this line. Eurostar -> Greater Anglia. I'm a bit nervous because apaprently there are works on the signalling systems in Cologne, so the Eurostar from Düsseldorf was canceled and I had to rebook onto an ICE (3 neo) which is gonna get rerouted... and they don't have the schedule up for it yet.
I travelled on this train today and it’s fine lol
New train that's 25 years old... You should come up and try the EMR Connect trains, we were advertised to have new trains but got 20+ year old hand-me-downs from Greater Anglia, which are still in dire need of refurbishment!
All ticket machines are inaccessible to wheelchair users. Go figure.
At least the entry point into the seating areas look wide enough for a wheelchair (some have the dividing wall really far in even in the accessible carriage).
I am genuinely surprised that the toilet that was broke wasn't the accessible one. Makes a change.
The 1st class seats actually look narrower than the standard class ones.
Probably advertised as Barnes as it's slow to discourage people from getting the slower trains unless they have a lot of people who want to see the suburb of London where T Rex died ....the 1970's singer not the dinosaur 🦖!
Fair enough, but it seems misleading. I thought it was cancelled at first!
What kind of camera / device do you use for your videos may I ask? Do you use any editing software to put them together?
The class 458's were withdrawn because their destination displays were too small to meet the regulation standards and it wasn't economical to replace them, Then someone had a great idea to just add a magnifying piece of clear plastic over the top thereby making the font appear bigger and in compliance with the standards.
It was a bit of a joke a the time with fairly new trains out of service due to this issue whilst much much older trains which were exempt from these regulations due to their age were operating in their place.
Also the 460's, some of them had new cab ends built when they converted them to 458's.
No way, is that real? 🤣
Sadly SWR do not pay for refurbishment of the toilets etc the panels in first class are now being fixed and are now all gray first class interior on the last few trains to roll off the production line, nice to see our work finally in service though
The 701s will probably be 25 years old as well before they properly enter service.
Classic South Western Railway!
Fantastic video thanks
On the upside, profits from the line subsidise passengers in Hong Kong?
On the topic These refurbished 455/4 are to the eye very pleasingly, Nice livery seating in line with windows. Tables in the bays ×4 and at single seats,Obviously let down by the rough ride, and grotty toilets, Passengers want seats most of all. Prefer these to S%£te 701 anyday.
Went out to Surrey on these a couple of days ago, had the same stuck door issue, also fixed with a kick!
Not sure why they took out seats and put in tables. This is a commuter line, seats are more important than tables.
7:25 Hope the guy in the left 'window' seat likes pillar .
Going back to BR days the service from Birmingham New Street to Euston via Northampton was advertised to Hemel Hempstead so that passengers traveiilg to London did not board it instead or the fast InterCity service. No doubt other examples exist.
blue and yellow, I love who does not kill the traditions. I live in Italy , each train is a new attempt ... the old one colours are losted
It is advertised as Barnes so that the slow service isn't crowded and confused with the fast service to Waterloo
beautiful, watched this 3 times now lol