For anyone struggling with the right timing for the recording part of this method: What really helped me was changing "next clip" in the clip edit menu from "stay" to "stop" and then just pressing the sample and the play button at the same time. That way you dont have to worry about overlapping recordings. If you don't want your sample to start from the beginning of the pattern, it is still going to be difficult, but otherwise it works great :) Thanks Unit E for this helpful advice!
Using the count-in will relieve you of having to hit play and triggering the sample at the same time. Great tip on using the stop function for the next clip parameter.
@@UnitE808 With quantize on it's actually super easy to hit both buttons at the same time in my opinion, but sure maybe with a count in it could be even easier for some to do that. Anyways this tutorial is super helpful so thx a lot! :)
You don't have to change those values for the AENV. When you change the mode to SUSTAIN, on the next page of that menu, you can set the Release value to 0. Those 2 settings gets the same behavior.
@@jesperna1 you’re welcome! Unfortunately, the drum tracks do not time-stretch, so they will not adjust the speed of a sample played when the tempo is adjusted.
Thanks for that tutorial!i have another problem i have my tr8s and mc707 hooked up ...but when i change scene on 707 the tr8s also change pattern...how to fix this?thanks
I think I know the answer to this but...have you found any way to deassign the volume sliders to track volume or reassign them to something else? Thanks for your help
@@UnitE808 I thought so, I was just thinking on some songs it would be nice to ignore the sliders if the mix was already perfect... but they are a nice UI feature to always have available. Thanks!
@@tricks-and-tips maybe I can cheese it with a silent sample on one pad in the same mute group. I like to mess with drum chops creating a staccato type effect. The SP series gate function would be perfect
@@glutenguten1 That will work, but the 'problem' here is making the longer samples sound long. Not to make them stop. That is tricky. And I wished it was as easy as making a note longer.
Thanks! I wonder is it possible to record from external instrument to drum track for some pad? Instead of looper use drum track for recording long samples..
@@Drumsdude123 use shift+record for the sample recorder. After recording the sample, select a drum track then tap a pad. Hit enter to load the recording to the pad.
@@UnitE808 I have the same problem. There is a knob to set the end to "99" or "TIE". But both don't play the sample longer. It would be so nice when there is a way to set the length of a step in the step sequencer
@@BassWorkENTRTNMT drum tracks work differently than tone tracks. Extending a trigger on a step doesn’t lengthen the sample played. It’s a trigger. Tone tracks play notes with sustain naturally occurring when holding the note. That doesn’t happen when you hold a drum trigger.
It is great to have someone like you as a resource who knows this machine in and out!
For anyone struggling with the right timing for the recording part of this method:
What really helped me was changing "next clip" in the clip edit menu from "stay" to "stop" and then just pressing the sample and the play button at the same time. That way you dont have to worry about overlapping recordings.
If you don't want your sample to start from the beginning of the pattern, it is still going to be difficult, but otherwise it works great :)
Thanks Unit E for this helpful advice!
Using the count-in will relieve you of having to hit play and triggering the sample at the same time. Great tip on using the stop function for the next clip parameter.
@@UnitE808 With quantize on it's actually super easy to hit both buttons at the same time in my opinion, but sure maybe with a count in it could be even easier for some to do that. Anyways this tutorial is super helpful so thx a lot! :)
@@rhinozeroz I use the same method as you,. I was just offering up a different way. Have fun!
You don't have to change those values for the AENV. When you change the mode to SUSTAIN, on the next page of that menu, you can set the Release value to 0. Those 2 settings gets the same behavior.
Correct
Having the sample stop playing when I pressed stop was driving me up the wall! Thanks for explaining how to fix this!!
Thanks, this was super helpful, been stuck on this for ages
@@zakgott glad I could be helpful!
Thank you!!! More 707 turtorials!)))
Game changing info man thx
Great tip, thank you!
Excellent work as always. Thanks E.
I'm currently having memory limit issues with looper tracks, I might create a drum track and dump a few of the looper tracks there (just 4 bar loops)
Yeah, the 60 second limit goes quickly.
Super valuable! Thank you!
Needed this without knowing it! Thank you.
Good vid 👍
Yeah dude!! You 707 wizard 🧙♂️
Great tips love my 707
Just what I was looking for thanks!!
Tnx for a great video. Is it possible to time stretch a loaded sample. Will your vocal sample follow the tempo if you change the tempo?
@@jesperna1 you’re welcome! Unfortunately, the drum tracks do not time-stretch, so they will not adjust the speed of a sample played when the tempo is adjusted.
It helps a lot, thank you!
Thanks for that tutorial!i have another problem i have my tr8s and mc707 hooked up ...but when i change scene on 707 the tr8s also change pattern...how to fix this?thanks
In the utility menu of the 8S, under the midi category, turn off RxProgCh.
HELPS VERY MUCH!!!!
Cool! Thank you!
I think I know the answer to this but...have you found any way to deassign the volume sliders to track volume or reassign them to something else? Thanks for your help
They're hard programmed to level.
@@UnitE808 I thought so, I was just thinking on some songs it would be nice to ignore the sliders if the mix was already perfect... but they are a nice UI feature to always have available. Thanks!
Hey Unit:E, Love your videos. I know you used to have the plug with Roland. Do you know anything about them updating the firmware any longer? Thanx
If anyone does know about updates, they are usually required to sign an NDA. I can tell you that the 707 is still supported by Roland.
@@UnitE808Thanx. Sure, i've never intended to ask for details but to know if we can expect further updates, that's all. Thx again.
Great video.
If only you could edit the length of the step in a drum track, just like a note track.
(that would make the process a lot quicker)
Is this not possible?
@@glutenguten1 not like with a tone track. But for one shots, you don’t need it. Just for longer samples.
@@tricks-and-tips maybe I can cheese it with a silent sample on one pad in the same mute group.
I like to mess with drum chops creating a staccato type effect. The SP series gate function would be perfect
@@glutenguten1 That will work, but the 'problem' here is making the longer samples sound long. Not to make them stop.
That is tricky. And I wished it was as easy as making a note longer.
@@tricks-and-tips agreed. Thanks for your vids, got the MC a frw weeks ago so the tips and tricks have helped me a lot!
Thanks! I wonder is it possible to record from external instrument to drum track for some pad? Instead of looper use drum track for recording long samples..
It's absolutely possible and what I do often. Remember though.... drum tracks do not time-stretch samples, so you have to record at tempo.
@@UnitE808 wow! Thanks! But how to do that? Are there any info regarding this thing in manual?
@@Drumsdude123 use shift+record for the sample recorder. After recording the sample, select a drum track then tap a pad. Hit enter to load the recording to the pad.
@@UnitE808 Does sampling like this also fall under the overall 60 sec time limit as with the looper?
@@xpayk no. You get 6 minutes mono or 3 minutes stereo samples.
Got any hacks for the mv-1 verselab?
Coming soon. I just got mine
Cool. Somehow it just seems to have a lot of potential for hacks.
Is there no way within the instrument menu to edit step length so I don't have to be recording?
You can edit step length by pressing shift and the step.
@@UnitE808 I have the same problem. There is a knob to set the end to "99" or "TIE". But both don't play the sample longer. It would be so nice when there is a way to set the length of a step in the step sequencer
@@BassWorkENTRTNMT drum tracks work differently than tone tracks. Extending a trigger on a step doesn’t lengthen the sample played. It’s a trigger. Tone tracks play notes with sustain naturally occurring when holding the note. That doesn’t happen when you hold a drum trigger.
Cheers