In 2013, Tiddles (The creator of Sonic 3 complete), Labeled this theme as "Special Theme" as a Super Sonic Theme, and honestly this song fits as a super theme unlike the invincibility themes.
1:48 (DAC + Channel 2) Would've been cool if there was a Sonic game that you can play online, and this is what would play when you were near a player in its super form. Or Channel 3 and Channel 4. That would've worked too.
@@Urmum18169 ...eeeeehhh, Super Sonic's a lot more powerful than everyone else. S1 Sonic is basically the same, but without any abilities (spindash, super peel-out, etc.) There would be no logical reason for the music to change when a S1 sonic's nearby. Not mad or anything though, good ideas dude.
Jahranimo Could be few reasons, personal preference of the devs, cart space, maybe MJ was going to write one? Running out of time to make a ‘final’ version, etc.
I think this might be the bonus stage theme by Miyoko Takaoka. She said she composed 3 themes for the game: the 2 acts of Marble Garden Zone and a bonus stage theme, which ultimately went unused.
I love these oscilloscope videos bc not only do u get to hear each part individually so they can b more easily identifiable but hearing it all come together after listening to the separate parts feels so satisfying. The satisfaction is even greater when u like the song too!
Let me tell you something interesting. This song reminds me of December 2019, the last month I fully enjoyed myself. It was around this time when I started fully listening to the Sonic 3 Prototype songs, and this song. This song right here. This right here was my favorite song of all time. At least video game wise. I would listen to it everyday, and with all the cold of Winter, with a sort of smell the wind had to it, and the friends I hanged out with, and with me being 1 month into a relationship, it felt perfect to listen to. I was always happy! Now, in the year 2020, its defiantly pretty dire. But, when I'm feeling down, I'll play this song, and it all seems to make me feel better in every way. Music is a very important thing in my life. What really hits and makes me remember December 2019 is Channel 0. The way it... distorts and gets all wobbly just gives me nostalgia of that month. I hope December 2020 has a similar effect. I'll come back here once 2021 comes.
Yeah, I'm back, and it still makes me feel amazing! I'm looking forward to hearing it again when the winter comes lol. I'm thinking about making it a tradition of mine to listen to the song every December.
Believe it or not this song was actually meant to be for the HYPER theme, not the SUPER theme. This song would have made much more sense for Hyper Sonic since it sounds much more energetic and happy. Edit: Holy shit I didn't realize just how damn happy this song makes you feel oh my god :0
Is that speculation or do you have a source for that info? Either way it does make sense they would have removed this song from Sonic 3 final even if they had intended it to be for Hyper Sonic.
@@abcdefgun6112 That is a fair point, though SEGA could've changed their minds later in development to make this both the super and hyper theme instead of making two separate tracks for each form, sadly they went the even shorter route and just reused the invincibility theme for both forms which kinda sucks :|
I honestly doubt that this is a Super Sonic theme. I think it is an early version of the Special Stage theme, because the musical section at 5:51 can also be found in the final version of this theme (around 53 seconds), and Sonic Origins uses this for the Blue Spheres game.
Well, the Special Stage theme actually predates Sonic 3 by about two years, as Yoshiaki Kashima had originally composed it for an unreleased puzzle game in 1992 called "SegaSonic Bros." That is a pretty interesting observation nontheless.
i /love/ this theme, but I still think the instruments weren't finalized yet by the time this build was burned... all of the channels sound like generic synths, much like you'd hear from an early SDK or from a random chinese pirate game (looking at you "super mario world" and "squirrel king") If someone in the community could polish this a bit further to fit with the general vibe of the rest of the soundtrack, I would be eternally grateful. I'd do it myself if I had the time and the familiarity with all of the different Genny/MD music utilities that have been created over the last decade and a half x.x
There are a couple of versions that have been refined. One of them is used in Sonic 3 Complete, another was recently added to Sonic 3: Angel Island Revisited, and there's another one I've heard. They all have slight differences but they're all amazing. I feel they are all a touch slow for Super Sonic personally so I always play them at 1.1x (+10%) speed. Gives it that feeling of speed for me. th-cam.com/video/oY2m49tFiik/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/ZTwOeruaFjk/w-d-xo.html
Didn't think about this till now, but there's only 5 competition stages, even though the hidden stage select says there's six. Is it possible that this song was meant for that 6th stage? (Imagine a sixth secret stage where you fly through space as the super/hyper characters. That would be neat.)
This uses Sonic 1/2 instruments. Also, this song was used for the Sonic & Knuckles Collection PC version credits. The credits for the people who worked on the PC version, specifically.
Channel 2 is so high pitched that it honestly sounds like a mistake and probably wasn't ever intended to sound like that. I think it'd sound good if it were like the chime in the Doomsday Zone.
This was going to be the credits for if you had both halves locked on. S&k collection has this song listed in its files as sccredits.mid, and it plays after you beat s3&k.
This theme along with the others featured in this sonic 3 prototype were later used in the Sonic & knuckles: collection due to issues with some of the music being made by MJ so they reverted themes to their original unused music. This one must of been unused in that version either due to. 1. SEGA not wanting to use this theme. 2. They forgot it's purpose. 3. It was scrapped from the game but they left it's file in the disc.
It was used as the Super theme is the ROM hack but it's true purpose is still unknown in the prototype. Maybe it was the super theme or a special stage theme.
Guzzled Gumps23 it wasn’t a special stage theme or a bonus stage theme. The prototype version of the blue sphere theme, as well as the prototype versions of the gumball machine, glowing orbs, and slot machine bonus stages, are pretty much the same as the final versions
i know several people call this a super sonic theme, but this feels more like a 2 player level song to me. the super sonic theme before this interpolated the original sonic theme into it (though to be fair one game doing it isn't much of a precedent), but this is wholly unique. it just gives me the same vibes as a two player level, balloon park in particular
A lot of people have speculated that the composition was done by Jun senoue. However, i guarantee you, it was not done by Jun senoue because if it was done by him, this song would have been rearranged in future games. Take Sonic 3d blast, for example, as his two compositions were going to be in the game but did not make the cut and went unused. So later, he reused both of these songs in later games. Such as the special stage song for whenever you encounter knuckles and he takes you there went unused until 2 years later that is rearranged in pleasure castle in sonic adventure and the boss track for Robotnik that was later rearranged later in 14 years later sonic 4 episode 1 as the boss theme. UPDATE (4/18/24): I made a mistake of what I have said. So, to clear things up, this song sounds similar to a song called never turn back which was made 12 years later in the game shadow the hedgehog who was made composed by Jun senoue and sung by his group singer from crush 40. So this is very likely that senoue did the composition. Also there is another song that senoue did which was the knuckles theme that was meant for sonic 3 however did not make the cut in favor for buxer's version and how unfitting for the character. However the song was reused in the pc version of sonic 3. The reason why I say this was done by senoue bc his composition and programming sounds familiar. The programming is the same like the game over song because two bassline (one of each are panned left and right) have the same fm instrument.
A lot of people think this was going to be the Super Sonic theme, but I honestly think this was going to be for another type of bonus stage. IDK why, I just came up with that thought.
It would probably sound pretty different with a Model 1's 3.68 kHz LPF too, more like an ambience/pad type of synth without the shrill overtones. This sounds like it's unfiltered output.
![S&K Collection / Sonic 3 Proto - Unused Music [Sonic Mania Style Attempt]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/rSi8n0K9qzM/mqdefault.jpg)
In 2013, Tiddles (The creator of Sonic 3 complete), Labeled this theme as "Special Theme" as a Super Sonic Theme, and honestly this song fits as a super theme unlike the invincibility themes.
THAT'S where I remember it from. Thought I heard it before.
@@blackdot105 Same
@Hooda the Antagonist what's up?
Nah,i'd rather use this as a hyper theme honestly.
@@heyitz_ch3rriez it's for both forms mate
1:48 what I came for
davie504 would be proud
You Can Do Anything
RadiLime i need *b a s s*
Victor Pulido TOOT TOOT SONIC WARRIOR
A old super Sonic music
If you don’t have this turned on in Sonic 3 AIR, you’re wrong
Channel 2: "Let me sing to you the song of my people"
Lol
Yeah, channel 2 is pretty high-pitched. I think if it came down about 2 octaves in the last section it would sound a *lot* nicer.
1:48 *Y e s*
s l a p
1:48 is why I will always love Megadrive/Genesis music over any other retro console music
Same man
Same with the Super Nintendo (Super Famicom for the Japanese chads)
I don’t care which gaming company or console. All I want is the music which is on a wildfire course
What about Commodore 64?
I got an ad with Rick Astley at the start of the video
NEVERGONNAGIVEYOUUPNEVERGONNALETYO
Seems like he'll never give you upm
I swear to GOD Sonic 3 has the best Baseline in all of gaming soundtracks. Ever.
insert flying battery theme
0:00 Ch0
0:54 Ch3, Ch4
1:18 Ch2 joins
1:49 Ch1, DAC
2:43 Ch3, Ch4, Ch1, DAC
3:50 Ch2, Ch3, Ch4, Ch1, DAC
4:32 Every channel
1:48 (DAC + Channel 2)
Would've been cool if there was a Sonic game that you can play online, and this is what would play when you were near a player in its super form.
Or Channel 3 and Channel 4. That would've worked too.
Kinda reminds me of Mario Kart - if you're near a player with a Star, the star theme will play under the BGM (serving mostly as a warning).
And in a stage that's not green hill, if you were near a sonic 1 it would play GHZ music.
@@Urmum18169 ...eeeeehhh, Super Sonic's a lot more powerful than everyone else. S1 Sonic is basically the same, but without any abilities (spindash, super peel-out, etc.) There would be no logical reason for the music to change when a S1 sonic's nearby.
Not mad or anything though, good ideas dude.
@@hyperslime64 Yup, exactly what I was thinkin'! Plus, it could serve as a hype source in some sort of co-op mode if you're in a pinch in a boss.
@@ianthehedgehog9327 ty anyway
I always thought this was gonna be the Super Sonic theme, like in Sonic 2 there was a unique theme. Wonder why it went unused?
Jahranimo Could be few reasons, personal preference of the devs, cart space, maybe MJ was going to write one? Running out of time to make a ‘final’ version, etc.
It is a remix of you can do anything
Nice profile pic bro
@@icewallow2411 not similar enough,would be cool though
I think this might be the bonus stage theme by Miyoko Takaoka. She said she composed 3 themes for the game: the 2 acts of Marble Garden Zone and a bonus stage theme, which ultimately went unused.
I love these oscilloscope videos bc not only do u get to hear each part individually so they can b more easily identifiable but hearing it all come together after listening to the separate parts feels so satisfying. The satisfaction is even greater when u like the song too!
Interesting use of the drowning bass!
Let me tell you something interesting. This song reminds me of December 2019, the last month I fully enjoyed myself. It was around this time when I started fully listening to the Sonic 3 Prototype songs, and this song. This song right here. This right here was my favorite song of all time. At least video game wise. I would listen to it everyday, and with all the cold of Winter, with a sort of smell the wind had to it, and the friends I hanged out with, and with me being 1 month into a relationship, it felt perfect to listen to. I was always happy! Now, in the year 2020, its defiantly pretty dire. But, when I'm feeling down, I'll play this song, and it all seems to make me feel better in every way. Music is a very important thing in my life.
What really hits and makes me remember December 2019 is Channel 0. The way it... distorts and gets all wobbly just gives me nostalgia of that month. I hope December 2020 has a similar effect. I'll come back here once 2021 comes.
Yo u back yet?
You back yet
Yeah, I'm back, and it still makes me feel amazing! I'm looking forward to hearing it again when the winter comes lol. I'm thinking about making it a tradition of mine to listen to the song every December.
@@KGR7Gamer yes
@@KGR7Gamer Has 2021 been as good as 2019 or no?
1:49 best
0:54 has got to be my favorite part of this song
This sounds like the checkpoint bonus games. At least that’s the vibe I get from it.
I doesn't give you an hyper or super vibe? How
From 1:18 onwards it sounds really good as it slowly builds up to the full arrangement.
1:50 my fav part
Yes top 😅
Believe it or not this song was actually meant to be for the HYPER theme, not the SUPER theme.
This song would have made much more sense for Hyper Sonic since it sounds much more energetic and happy.
Edit: Holy shit I didn't realize just how damn happy this song makes you feel oh my god :0
Is that speculation or do you have a source for that info?
Either way it does make sense they would have removed this song from Sonic 3 final even if they had intended it to be for Hyper Sonic.
Then does that mean, that hyper sonic, and the super emeralds, were meant to be, IN SONIC 3 ALL ALONG?
But hyper sonic didn't exist yet in the beta
@@andyukmonkey Speculation, in S3AIR if you enable the beta theme for super sonic it sounds very fitting with Hyper sonic
@@abcdefgun6112 That is a fair point, though SEGA could've changed their minds later in development to make this both the super and hyper theme instead of making two separate tracks for each form, sadly they went the even shorter route and just reused the invincibility theme for both forms which kinda sucks :|
this reminds me a lot of "you can do anything" from sonic cd idk why, i think it's the chord progression on the 8bit chiptune channels
this track does not use the chiptune channels (PSG channels) tho
@@prywatne4733 channels 3 and 4 are mimicking the sounds of square waves
I'd rather hear this as Super Sonic than invincibility. Much rather. If not, the music for the stage. Especially Marble Garden Zone's theme.
I think marble garden is good the way it is
0:54 This music is soo nostalgic for me 🥲
Same🥲
This one sounds pretty cool, wish they used it.
I honestly doubt that this is a Super Sonic theme. I think it is an early version of the Special Stage theme, because the musical section at 5:51 can also be found in the final version of this theme (around 53 seconds), and Sonic Origins uses this for the Blue Spheres game.
Well, the Special Stage theme actually predates Sonic 3 by about two years, as Yoshiaki Kashima had originally composed it for an unreleased puzzle game in 1992 called "SegaSonic Bros." That is a pretty interesting observation nontheless.
i /love/ this theme, but I still think the instruments weren't finalized yet by the time this build was burned... all of the channels sound like generic synths, much like you'd hear from an early SDK or from a random chinese pirate game (looking at you "super mario world" and "squirrel king")
If someone in the community could polish this a bit further to fit with the general vibe of the rest of the soundtrack, I would be eternally grateful. I'd do it myself if I had the time and the familiarity with all of the different Genny/MD music utilities that have been created over the last decade and a half x.x
There are a couple of versions that have been refined. One of them is used in Sonic 3 Complete, another was recently added to Sonic 3: Angel Island Revisited, and there's another one I've heard. They all have slight differences but they're all amazing. I feel they are all a touch slow for Super Sonic personally so I always play them at 1.1x (+10%) speed. Gives it that feeling of speed for me.
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I don't know why this went unused, this would fit perfectly for Hyper Sonic.
Didn't think about this till now, but there's only 5 competition stages, even though the hidden stage select says there's six. Is it possible that this song was meant for that 6th stage?
(Imagine a sixth secret stage where you fly through space as the super/hyper characters. That would be neat.)
Snarky comment or actual thought?
Anyway, that's a good idea too!
@@jtg55 actual thought!
huh, that would be cool, imagine if we get another sonic origins type of game, but with extra stuff for the games
This hypothetical sixth competition stage would have to be named Final Frontier or something similar
(Because ABCDEF and space)
This sounds very 3d blast
The Instrumentation and the pace highly reminds Sonic CD (especially Quartz Quadrant B, Metallic Madness P and You Can Do Anything)
Could be Super Sonic's theme, but perhaps it's for a secret 2-player Fallen Shrine (totally made up name) zone?
3:09 Unused Zone Act 2!
super sonic...unused theme
3:37 is the part i usually start from
I forgot how unfinished the version from the beta actually was, I've been listening to remakes this whole time.
2:11 mario underground music
That does not sound like it-
Kinda
One of my favorites channels of the songs, are channel 3 & 4, they give body to the song
1:20 I like this part.
I feel like this would be perfect if Channel 2's role was entirely delegated to PSG and Channel 0 gained a backing echo
I feel like this is related to something else but I don’t know what.
ChAoS cOnTrOl!
4:32 EVERYBODY NOW!
Chennel 2: *AAAAAAAAAEEEEEEEEEE*
definitly a super sonic theme
I believe this is Super Sonic's unused theme. I wish they used this in the final version
It was supposed to be hyper Sonic's theme
@@someoneidkwho313 proof?
@@gabigote1439 Told the people that made this. Flew all the way to Japan... And don't tell me, I have learned Japanese.
This uses Sonic 1/2 instruments. Also, this song was used for the Sonic & Knuckles Collection PC version credits. The credits for the people who worked on the PC version, specifically.
Channel 2 is so high pitched that it honestly sounds like a mistake and probably wasn't ever intended to sound like that.
I think it'd sound good if it were like the chime in the Doomsday Zone.
Can’t wait for Launch base 2 deconstructed
This was going to be the credits for if you had both halves locked on. S&k collection has this song listed in its files as sccredits.mid, and it plays after you beat s3&k.
The PC version credits would also play if you click the option in the drop down menus.
THANKS A LOT
It's a unused version of the super sonic theme found in the PC version ( sonic & knuckles collection ) :)))
Key Herriot that was Also unused
@@YimYum911 what was? Sorry for late reply
This theme along with the others featured in this sonic 3 prototype were later used in the Sonic & knuckles: collection due to issues with some of the music being made by MJ so they reverted themes to their original unused music. This one must of been unused in that version either due to.
1. SEGA not wanting to use this theme.
2. They forgot it's purpose.
3. It was scrapped from the game but they left it's file in the disc.
Sounds like “Toot Toot Sonic Warrior/You Can Do Anything”
the 90s mustve been a great time for our parents
Why is the bass the best part of every single song to ever exist
I would have loved hearing this instead of the 8 second invincibility loop whenever I went Super of Hyper.
This track was oringnaly going to be the super sonc/hyper sonic theme.
That was speculation.
@@radilime true
The hyper sonic part is correct. The super part is wrong.
Cool stuff man! Could you deconstruct the beta metropolis theme from sonic 2?
Already done.
I could see this being the end credits or part of some end song, it also kinda reminds me of ballon park alittle
0:54 sounds like megaman
groovy.
SUPAH SAWNIC TIME BOIS
When it said unknown i was like..it's they super theme
*the
It was used as the Super theme is the ROM hack but it's true purpose is still unknown in the prototype. Maybe it was the super theme or a special stage theme.
Guzzled Gumps23 it wasn’t a special stage theme or a bonus stage theme. The prototype version of the blue sphere theme, as well as the prototype versions of the gumball machine, glowing orbs, and slot machine bonus stages, are pretty much the same as the final versions
Its a speculation
Kimby hyper super zeke dark super
Damn, this part slaps :0 1:49
Excellent track! Some presume it was composed by Jun Sunoue.
i know several people call this a super sonic theme, but this feels more like a 2 player level song to me. the super sonic theme before this interpolated the original sonic theme into it (though to be fair one game doing it isn't much of a precedent), but this is wholly unique. it just gives me the same vibes as a two player level, balloon park in particular
To me this sounds more like a credits theme than anything else
Bonus stage
What about Tetris Theme B deconstructed?
Is it just me or does part of the bassline resemble Quartz Quadrant BF (JP)
This absolutely should have been the Super Sonic theme in the final.
Unused Super Sonic Music
1:48 labyrinth bass?
And spring yard
@@segaking5846 yeah
In Sonic Origins, it was the New Blue Spheres results music
@ELDAVISRABIS I don't know, I've been waiting that were a Super Sonic / Hyper Sonic theme
2:12 - 2:15 this part reminds me of MULE
This is the Prototype of the super sonic theme
Is this theme called Toot Toot Sonic Warrior?
Yeah, this theme should have been accessible in the games.
This is the invincibility stars theme that is heard on other rom hacks.
1:49 my fav
Unknown music is right. Never heard of it thats for sure lol
AYE
Me bottle of scrumpy
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So this song doesn't use square waves. Who knew?
the FM synth channels can mimic the sound of a PSG square and noise channel.
@@nil8659 Yeah, I just never expected that that's what this track did, but it's pretty cool.
A lot of people have speculated that the composition was done by Jun senoue. However, i guarantee you, it was not done by Jun senoue because if it was done by him, this song would have been rearranged in future games. Take Sonic 3d blast, for example, as his two compositions were going to be in the game but did not make the cut and went unused. So later, he reused both of these songs in later games. Such as the special stage song for whenever you encounter knuckles and he takes you there went unused until 2 years later that is rearranged in pleasure castle in sonic adventure and the boss track for Robotnik that was later rearranged later in 14 years later sonic 4 episode 1 as the boss theme.
UPDATE (4/18/24):
I made a mistake of what I have said. So, to clear things up, this song sounds similar to a song called never turn back which was made 12 years later in the game shadow the hedgehog who was made composed by Jun senoue and sung by his group singer from crush 40. So this is very likely that senoue did the composition. Also there is another song that senoue did which was the knuckles theme that was meant for sonic 3 however did not make the cut in favor for buxer's version and how unfitting for the character. However the song was reused in the pc version of sonic 3. The reason why I say this was done by senoue bc his composition and programming sounds familiar. The programming is the same like the game over song because two bassline (one of each are panned left and right) have the same fm instrument.
A lot of people think this was going to be the Super Sonic theme, but I honestly think this was going to be for another type of bonus stage. IDK why, I just came up with that thought.
In Sonic Origins, this plays as the results screen for New Blue Spheres.
@@majman446 I noticed that.
4 Beats in and I knew what it was
This is the super/hyper Sonic's theme. I don't understand why SEGA didn't use it.
In the PC version, its listed as "Credits", thats weird?
Never Turn Back
I made this as a proof of concept for another iteration of this theme.
Unused Super Sonic Theme
this is used in Sonic Doom 2 btw
It seems like channel 2 should be an octave or 2 lower. (Not that this deconstruction is inaccurate, just that the composition is odd)
It’s meant to blend in the majestic magic of the tune. To give it that glowy sound that comes out of sonic’s enigmatic form of bright power
It would probably sound pretty different with a Model 1's 3.68 kHz LPF too, more like an ambience/pad type of synth without the shrill overtones. This sounds like it's unfiltered output.
It killed my ears. really, it is like 384985 more octaves than it shouold be
Ironic how, much like sonic 2, the unused song is the most finished in the prototype.
this is what an ashura games super theme would sound like
Is the beta song from súper sonic sounds like sonic 3d blast
BlastPolygon “u”
This "Unknown" music was thought to be the super theme
3:08
Channel 3 and 4 did fool me for not being the SN chip
Same! I thought they were PSG channels.
4:44 broooo
It was a super theme but it went unused
It was a speculation.
And still is.
Good Job, Only 5 Dislikes
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1:49 ❤
the only channel that matters is 0
the name is special theme in sonic 3 complete
i love sonic 3 complete