Crass Course: Skate Punk
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 พ.ค. 2021
- Crash coarse on the history and evolution of the Skate punk genre from the early 80's to the present. Plus a little of my personal thoughts and commentary.
Background music:
"1977" by D.D.F.
• D.D.F. - Means To An E... (Track 10)
"Locals Only" by Agression
• Locals Only
"These Valley Streets" by Jughead's Revenge
• These Valley Streets (song starts at 0:42)
"Any More Lonely" by First Class
• Any More Lonely
"The Greatest Betrayal" by Much the Same
• The Greatest Betrayal
"Too Old to Die Young" by Straightline
• Straightline - Too Old... coarse on the history and evolution of the Skate punk genre from the early 80's to the present. Plus a little of my personal thoughts and commentary.
Pop Punk video:
• Crass Course: Old Scho...
Background music:
"1977" by D.D.F.
• D.D.F. - Means To An E... (Track 10)
"Locals Only" by Agression
• Locals Only
"These Valley Streets" by Jughead's Revenge
• These Valley Streets (song starts at 0:42)
"Any More Lonely" by First Class
• Any More Lonely
"The Greatest Betrayal" by Much the Same
• The Greatest Betrayal
"Too Old to Die Young" by Straightline
• Straightline - Too Old...
I'm a drummer, I had a band back then...When I listened to Strung Out's Suburban & Twisted by design albums, I played'em for months straight, till my hands bled every time. After those albums, I was ready for everything in the punk genre...Jordan pushed me to my limit, and after all that pain and dedication, I was a different drummer. Now I'm 43, and I play prog rock and fusion
mate. just found this. thank you sooooooo much for including us and the live videos and songs. It was such a good feeling to be named among all the other bands
Thanks so much for watching guys! And really appreciate the shoutouts on Facebook!
@@thepunkhistorian6397 yes mate. did it with pleasure. please do more content ! it's nice to see people who have a clue what they talk about :)
So glad you commented the video. I focused on your band and... I love your music so f*cking much! 🤩
@@julienpicardos thank you soooo much for the nice words
I grew up listening to a lot of 80s-90s skatepunk and hardcore. Some of my favorites are Suicidal, RKL, JFA, Gang Green, DRI, Black Flag, MDC, Minor Threat, Dead Kennedys, the Faction, Bad Brains, Agent Orange, the Adolescents, Nofx, Bad Religion, the Offspring, 30FootFall, the Vandals, Pennywise, Guttermouth, Pulley, AFI, 98 Mute, Grey Matter and so many others. I had a subscription to Thrasher Magazine and my friends and I would build janky ramps in the woods, skate drainage ditches and other spots around town. We'd be playing this stuff from a ghetto blaster or car stereo while we were skating. A bunch of us started our own bands and would play shows at house parties, skateparks, backyard BBQs, warehouses, dive bars and local venues. Me and another buddy of mine started a band called LSD, which we used as an acronym for Lone Star Delinquents, as well as one of our favorite pastimes. We were just 4 delinquents from Texas who loved acid and it was also sort of a nod to RKL being one of our big influences. Man this brings back some fond memories. Those sure were some really great times!
Mostly 90’s for me, the EpiFat era, but I have the same story as you, except in Alabama. Our band was called Loser Union.
Being 16 in 1995 ruled... Currently loving finding all these random bands on spotify that are now carrying the torch and taking things up a notch! Great vid
Excellent breakdown! Pretty rad and unexpected to see CHASER pop up🤯Appreciate the shoutout!
Thanks for watching guys!
Rad as fuck
I loved ignition. Still do. Everybody laughed when I said the Offspring were going to be huge. Saw them when they still had long hair on a show that is one of my all time favorite shows. Guttermouth, D.I., Offspring, Adolescents, Vandals. In that order.
Dude, you covered so much ground and highlighted many great points. I'm from North Dakota and my band played with Propagandhi in '94 and we'd play together a few times afterwards and stayed at Todd's house and mailed cassettes and letters for a while to stay in touch. That era was definitely a highlight for me with music. I first got into punk because of old 80's skate videos like H-Street Hocus Pocus and I had two of those Thrasher Skate Comp cassettes with bands like Beowulf, Sub Society, & Samiam. I did tons of mailorder with Fat, Lookout, and other random distros that I found in 'zines. In the mid-90's, there were all of these different bands which were loved across the scene, but had their own character. Picking three from each: like Jawbreaker, Samiam, & Doughboys, then, All, Big Drill Car, & Brown Lobster Tank, then Strung Out, Lagwagon, & No Use, then so many Canadian 90's skate punk bands like Trigger Happy, Reset, & Layaway Plan, and then what totally blew me away were the Swedish bands like Adhesive, Satanic Surfers, & Charles Hårfager. Fat Mike even said the Swedish bands stole our sound and made it better. But yeah, I kinda got lost with all of that stuff after the 90's, and then I got on Myspace in 2004, that's when I discovered all of those European techy bands like Forus, PMX, and Beerbong. Stuff definitely got techy and super fast then. Great music though! PMX is still at it and sounding awesome. John from that band is so active in recording similar projects and releasing music. And yeah, dude, Strung Out is still my favorite band in that whole genre. I quit listening to Propagandhi some time in 90's, can't even get into them anymore. But yeah, I can thrash to those old skate rock comps and to RKL and Strung Out any day of the week.
Love the fact you mention Layaway Plan! I’m from Saskatchewan and played some gigs with them and others in a punk band too. Great scene and a great time to be young and into punk. Almost all the bands were really decent people especially Choke, Layaway Plan and SNFU
"Tony Hawks Pro Skater" really needs to be recognized for bringing a lot of good music to new ears....gatekeepers be damned. I never understood the "now everyone likes it, it sucks" mentality. This usually just means more and easier access to it, which is a good thing. Now sometimes this means the infamous "sell out" and while that DOES suck from time to time, it is typically good for the band, which if your a fan of then be happy they "made it".
Edit: and yes "Enema" imo sucked. Dude Ranch was better, but that doesn't mean I hate Blink. I am just more a fan of the old sound.
Did you happen to play espn x games pro boarder? I had it on PlayStation and it along with thps were very influential to my curiosities. The game disc played in CD player and I took it on vacation and bought my first 5 punk records.
@@Tteaspoon1031 Rock on! I know a lot of people who bought the albums of the bands on those games. Hell my wife (gf back then) even went out and bought a lot of them back in the day. She never listened to Vandals or Suicidal Tendencies. Goldfinger is and forever will be on of my fav bands and "Hang Ups" had a HUGE resurgence thanks to THPS.
@@leviathan_is_me I always found other bands by easing the band credits too. Almost bands they thanked in the cd book I would look into. Kind of like a recommended hearing section haha
RKL are so underrated. Thank you so much for mentioning them.
Hell yeah! I made an entire video about them:
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Absolutely, incredibly under rated band. I learned a majority of their stuff on guitar back in the mid-late 80s.. Still play "Scab on my Brain" to this day.
Them and DRI, Cryptic Slaughter, Dr. Know, Corrosion of Conformity, Attitude Adjustment, Crumbsuckers, Cro-mags, man,,, I can go on and on...
Thanks for a blast down memory lane...🤘
I think rkl was the main real influence to the scene and skate punk genre. 2 of them went to Lagwagon then.
“Epiphat” era definitely is my favorite too. Lagwagon, Pennywise for me 🤙🏼
Strung Out and Face To Face are a couple of my top favorite Live bands to see. Incredible stage presence and music is on point every time! If anyone ever gets the chance I highly recommend going to their shows!
Face to Face is awesome live. Saw them a couple times maybe 5-6 years ago in south florida and it was great. They played a small venue called Propaganda in Lake Worth and it was amazing.
Face to Face forever
Man, this channel is awesome. Thanks for all these videos. This is great music that doesn't get a lot of mainstream so it's cool to bring it to light.
I grew up as a skate punk in the 90's, I remember for example, crowd surfing at a Pennywise show, and kicking it with the Voodoo Glow Skulls after a show. Now I am a dad, so I have been educating my kids on various bands and skateboarding.
I love that he looks like a lumberjack but sounds like a suburban teenager. Seriously, I love it.
That beard was a good 3 months in the making by the time this came out 😂
Dude. Just stumbled upon you. Loving all the videos! The history of how any music comes to be is always fascinating to me. Learning so much from you- keep it up!
30FootFall kicked ass
Was a big Epi-Fat kid (literally a kid aged 10 buying Lagwagon cd’s) then in high school got into technical skate punk (Belvedere, Choke etc) and I still spin those discs to this day
Also, super sweet you mentioned PMX and Forus! Europe had incredible bands that weren’t as well known unfortunately…but back in the MySpace days you could fall down some amazing rabbit holes finding them all
Have to engage in some whataboutism. Pro skaters Steve Caballero's band ,,The Faction??? "Skate and Destroy" is THE skate anthem in the 80s. Glad Tony Hawk put it in his most recent HBO documentary. Duane Peters needs to be in the discussion. Probably the guy who brought punk rock to skating around 79/80. One of the first guys to show up at a contest with died short hair.
I grew up skating to the EpiFat soundtrack and man, the amount of ground you cover in this video is amazing. I hated Today's Empire Tomorrow's Ashes but now that you have put it into historical context I may dust it off and try again. Great video!
Cool to see you mention Belvedere. I've almost come to think that Uber fast, technical punk rock sort of became a prominant Canadian flavor. I'd agree that Propaghandi played a big part in that, but I think that SNFU were the godfathers of "Prog Punk". Anyone who's into this stuff however, really needs to check out Choke, they were amazing. Also, big props to Death By Sterio, for mixing metal with punk the Day of the Death album was so far ahead of its time.
Nice to hear Choke mentioned
I came here to also mention Choke . Nothing more technical… ever !
Really good video and content champ!! I am from the tail of the Skate-Punk era into the Tech one and you mentioned way more bands that I ever knew! Cheers! Punk never dies!!
Glad you mentioned 30footfall! Watching the back catalogue after finding the RKL vid. I like what you're doing man, you got a fan in me!
Cheers! thanks for your views!
Great stuff dude. I need more!
Amazing! I appreciate this!
So Glad to Hear you Say that about Strung Out!! Fu king Love those guys
Great video bro! Thanks. I'm 32 grew up listening dis Bands! Here in Brazil we also had a great scene back in the 90's.
Skateboarding, Surfing and Jiu forever! ahha you can't quit!
Cheers!
I think the one band I gravitated more to than ANY other skate punk band during my skate daze would be AGRESSION!! Finally obtained an og vinyl copy of "Don't Be Mistaken" with a lyric insert...STOKED!!! Cuz at that time, I had some 'Intense Energy'!!!! (Probably their main ode track to skating).
great fuckin song
Loved this!! Keep it up 🤘
Huge Pulley fan here....nice to see them get mentioned. Plus with Scott's history with his skate park (now closed) Skate Lab they seem intertwined with the genre.
Awesome video. Very good analysis. I knew I recognized the song towards the end. Much The Same! Damn, takes me back to the MySpace days haha.
“Quit skateboarding” funny joke. You never truly quit staking
Not sure where I stand on jay, but wasn’t it something like “you don’t quit skateboarding because you got old, you got old because you quit skateboarding”.
No matter if you dant skate anymore you're for ever a skater
100% true. I dont skate NEARLY as much as I did as a teen, but I still follow skating somewhat (I can’t keep up with everything like I once did). I also, still watch skate videos, wear skate shoes, and hate on mall grabbing. If it wasn’t for skating, I wouldn’t be the person I am today.
Great video, awesome channel. Keep up the good work and keep developing the channel! You’re gonna do great. 👍🏼
Ahh shit man I was in high school in the heart of 90's EpiFat takeover and it fucking ruled. Label comps and Warped Tour were game changers. Hell even the deceased Tower Records was a major player. They carried all of these bands. Skate punk and ska punk dominated my identity from ages 15-18. Loving this channel my dude. Keep it up .
I’m jealous. I was only 12 in 1999 but thankfully my older cousins all listened to Lagwagon, Pennywise etc and I was lucky enough to get my friends into them too. By grade 10 we had 3 punk bands going between the group of us.
What a goddamn amazing time.
Same here. Warped Tour ‘97 will always b the best show I’ve been to.
Ahh, man, thank you for introducing me to First Class... I have really fond memories of skate punk from '90s MTB videos - shit like Pulley and No Use For a Name were played so often on those! This First Class song is proper nostalgic.
completely left out the beginning of skate punk in the late-'70s-BEFORE the publication of Thrasher, and my creation of the SKATE ROCK series. Most of the bands listed in this video didn't have real skaters in them.
This is really cool given how my musical background started. My first guitar teacher was Sam Williams from Down By Law, so skate punk, despite it not being my favorite style of punk is very close to my heart.
I’m always looking for new bands playing that epifat style. A few of my less known favorites are the decline (aus), secondshot, and symphony of distraction. Great video man. Love the punk talk.
I started listening skate punk if I was 17 and I listen to this day 🔥🎶😊
Great work on this one dude.
great video!!
Great video mate. Love skatepunk!
Shame you were not about in the 90s, what a great time to be a skate punk fan. Great video.
Ah dude you nailed it. I got into Epifat stuff in the mid 90s. Ended up touring and making records with a band called Phinus Gage from the UK from 2000-2008. Still totally love the genre and love some of the new tech bands too! Great video dude
Spot on analysis! The scene is great at the moment. Cheers from Finland!
I’m subscribing just cuz you love strung out as much as I do.
I'm from orange county and when i was in highschool from the mid to late 90's you couldn't escape this shit lol
Awesome video. Millencolin is probably my all time favorite band together with the Misfits.
I'm not ashamed to admit, I learned a lot about punk rock through Tony hawk's skateboarding, it all tied in...I was learning to skate playing that, in bands loved punk rock anyway, then I left school got my first job and went to hmv and randomly bought NOFX I heard they suck live...then I was in love, every week I got a new nofx album, pump up the vallum had just come out but I went by date on CD...after NOFX I went lagwagon, strung out etc and I fell in love with fat wreck chords forever....I'm 37 now and still love punk rock, still skate....today was a no use for a name day...keep up the great vids man this is my shit right here thank you for going deep on my fave bands xxxxxx
Just found ya Chanel and about 6 videos in! Good work man!!
Great stuff man! You are more than welcome to come and have a beer and next years KNRD Fest!!
Fucking rad with the KNRD shoutout. One thing that's worth mentioning is that while the two first "eras" of skatepunk mainly originated from North America, the current is much more based around te European DIY scene.
Yeah! So many people in The United States are quick to overlook the European scene since it's not right in front of them but that's where all the best bands are coming from these days!
Born in '82, I came of age in the mid 90s-early 2000's, and the punk shows were always fun. Skate Punk was popular with me at that time, my favorite was Pennywise. Although when I heard the epic punk rock symphony that was NOFX's The Decline I had to give them some respect, and So Long And Thanks For All The Shoes was great, with the hidden track of Howard Stern talking shit about them 🤣
i love this dude,
I was a teen in the mid-late 2000s and loved growing up listening to both the more technical bands like Forus, Adrenalized, Northern19 and Guff as well as uncoving the older bands I consider classic in the genre like Good Riddance, Slick Shoes and Millencolin. You did a great job encapsulating the history of one of the funnest music genres in about an EP's length! Awesome video!
Hell yea! Thanks for watching!! Northern19 is a fantastic band! I wanna do a video on Japanese punk at some point and I’ll definitely talk about them, High Standard, TNX and other Japanese skate punk in greater detail
@@thepunkhistorian6397 Now that is a video I would love to see! Japan has one of my favorite scenes for skate punk and pop punk, they have so many great bands and labels.
Really cool video! Nice to see Jughead's Revenge get a mention. One of the most overlooked bands of the era. Also shout out to Dr.Know, probably one of my favorite bands.
how about Rhythm collision ?
Just found your channel love it. I subscribed
You nailed that. Thank you.
Great shots of SNFU, they deserve a shout out in the video. SNFU was my home town hardcore band. I saw them play with bands like Gang Green and DRI.
RIP Chi Pig. Genuinely unique human being.
such an amazing unique band. Their live shows were epic. I was pretty young and new to punk, but they played Winnipeg so much I thought they were a local band. Haha. We had a pretty good scene in Canada in the latish 80s.There was a show most weekends, and quite often a touring band.
Hey if you are touring Canada You have to play in Winnipeg. Have to make gas money somehow!
The Royal Albert Arms Hotel 😁
One of the best live bands.
The strung out bit was my favourite
This is the first time I saw anyone mention DFL. I had their tape as a kid....it was good then, but listening now isnt easy lol
Also Suburban Teenaged Wasteland Blues has been one of my favorite records since it came out. Back then, when people had hard copies, I was super drawn to the CD. All dark blue with the script "strung Out" logo in yellow. Idk why, but I found it so asthetically pleasing.
Skating/Thrasher is how I was introduced to punk. I bought thrasher mags in ‘88 when I was 9. It had ads in the back of bands like RKL, D.R.I., Bad Brains. I liked ‘em ok. But then punk-o-Rama 1 came out. Then Fat Music. This will always b my favorite n the soundtrack to my teen years.
My favorite skate band is JFA!! Cool video man!! New to your channel and loving it👍🏼
Bought that propaghandi album back in the days in a crazy shop, it took some time to understand and like it.. very underated at the time.
Did my best skating in the 80's to D.I. "Horse bites", SNFU "And nobody", and Soul Asylum/Husku Du (Gotta Skate to my Local bands). Different skate scenes were all over the place. Dakotas/Minnesota/Manitoba was a different animal at the time. BTW, I was never a very good skater but my board was covered in Circle Jerks stickers...lol.
This is my shit right here. For me this is where is all started.
Great video man
Man I miss the times of the early mid 90s when skate punk bands were putting out stellar albums,everybody was on fire back then.
Me too. Such a great time. You could grab a Fat Wreck or Punk O Rama sampler album for a couple bucks and nearly every band on there would be good lol. This scene really was on fire back then
An RKL video would be great too! Rad stuff, thanks!
Good to see SNFU !! They were an act to behold in their day!
Stoked to get in on the ground floor of this channel before it blows up! Great stuff man! 🤘🏼
Cheers! thanks for the views!
Dude excellent video! And thank you for giving my friends in the band CHASER a shout out. My friends and I interviewed their singer, Mike LeDonne, on our podcast, Punk Rock Geek Den (shameless plug 😆🙃). Keep up the great work, brother. See ya in the next vid 🤘
Bad Religion are the godfathers of all this pretty much. And you are spot on when you say they should be mentioned in the same conversations with the iconic punk bands of all time.
I was in my late teens and early 20s during the fat/epitaph era. And a distinct sound not mention was the bass drum triplets. Jordan from strung out style became the standard every drummer was trying to meet. Generally my friends and I refer to that era as progressive punk or new school.
Cool. I agree with most of it. I think Strung Out were the blueprint for the tech stuff. Twisted by Design from 1998. Or maybe hi-standard's growing up from 1995. That's only 1 guitar player and they pulled it off live 🤯
Love Hi Standard and the Japanese skate punk stuff! And yeah I’d say Strung Out had a big impact on the tech stuff too, plus their newer stuff is pretty techy as well
Your videos are music to my ears....
I am a 18 yo metalhead who is a fan of slipknots music I got a sega dreamcast because working for my older brother made me interested in retro gaming (he resells old games) I borrowed the game crazy taxi from him I discovered a whole punk genre (before that I knew less about punk cause I only met I think two punks in my lifetime and befriended one well at least I assume that)
My fiance is obsessed with NOFX, she loves lagwagon, Strung Out, and leftover crack, most all skate punk bands really.
Very nice. So much info on so short time. I am so happy that you mention the european bands, because there are a lot of good bands from Europa. You divide
the 90's into two genres metal and melodic. I think it makes sense, but i would say a band like Strung Out(also in the early days) has more in commen with Pennywise and Progandhi, then Lagwagon and NOFX. If you don't know the european scene that much, you should listen to Atlas Losing Grip. The two lastes albums are very different, but there is so much inspiration to get from both of them. Thank you agian.
I have just recently found your page and you have done a stellar job with the bands you talk about. I love skate punk and was just curious how you feel about ands like The Decline, Primetime Failure and Local Resident Failure. Those 3 are some of my favorites.
88 fingers louie was always one of my favs of this style
Same
Authority Zero is a good modern skate punk band that incorporates ska/reggae into their music. Very great band.
Awesome
You failed to mention Agent Orange. There music was in every skate video prior to ‘87 or so. They even had decks made by one of the biggest skate companies of the time, Vision. I would consider about 3% of the bands mentioned here “skate punk” Its simply bands you liked when you were skating.
There is a definitive skate punk sound best displayed by production of recordings by jfa, faction, barkhard adolescents, di etc. I never could skate and skate rock is definitely a genre (at least in the 80s). Big Boys, too. But yeah...you can skate to anything. Doesn't make Adam and the Ants skate punk, tho
Agent Orange for sure, too
Totally agree. Agent Orange circle jerks minor threat. Hit my channel for throwback rock
Really good summary, do you know "looking up" skate Ska punk band from Belgium signed on epitaph Europe like the beatsteaks or burning heads?
strike anywhere are a severely underrated punk band.
52 year old here great list. Add Youth Brigade to it some Stark Raving Mad and let's give those Brits the Varukers a go. Great tunes back in my prime skateboarding days. 52 and still shredding only this time I have to pay to fix my own pool
if I had to pick my favorite bands that I think of with skate punk, it's stuff like MxPx or Lagwagon. great stuff
Great video
i just wished Jason Cruz sung live as he does on record :(
Really cool hat
Got my strung out tattoo in the greatest contenders booklet.. so yeah, I feel ya
Surprised you didn't mention the Hawker Records bands- particularly NY's Token Entry. HUGE part of the late-80s East Coast skate sound. I highly recommend you check 'em out!
right or the freeze ?
The distillers are one of my favorite punk or hardcore bands
RKL VIDEO YES PLEASE. Underrated AF Band
An old drummer of mine (Hugest Venerea fan I know) always made a distinction between "Melodic Hardcore" (the Bad Religion sound) and actual Skatepunk. He would analyse that specific genre a lot, but to simplify: Skatepunk is much much simpler than Melodic Hardcore. Almost like a faster Pop-punk. Bands like Guttermouth, Diesel Boy and early Blink are quintessential skatepunk. Simple riffs and beats, stupid lyrics, 4/4 beat very fast with minimal transitions and bridges. Obviously, a lot of bands are somewhat in between but I can understand the distinction.
White Thrash, Two Heebs And A Bean was the first CD I ever got back when I was 13 (in 1993) after seeing the cover of Ribbed at a friend's house. NoFX will always have a spot in my heart, but I have to say that Rev from Ten Foot Pole is by far the best damn album of the whole "Epi-Fat" sound. I was fortunate enough to see them live with Scott and they were flawless.
Thanks for using our Pour Habit footage and mentioning CHASER!
Be nice to see you add links in the description to the videos you sourced. Especially to avoid copyright strikes.
@@FelonyRecords will do! thanks for the heads up!
@@thepunkhistorian6397 I accidentally struck one of my friends channels who I gave my video for them to post as I was going after channels that had just taken our footage a re-uploaded it as theirs. Luckily YT allowed me to reverse the claim.
You are using them in the right context of news and fair use but still could get the wrath of another channel that doesn't care. Also using bands music is a nice feel for the background sounds but as your channel gains subscriber counts, the label can do a different copyright claim preventing you from monetizing your videos. Just something to think about. I uploaded a full set video of Red City Radio at PRB and they came out to a Van Halen song and Van Halen got the Copyright claim preventing RCR from getting revenue from the ads google places on my videos. I had to reedit the video to cut the VH part out so RCR would get any of the revenue the video garnered.
Lastly, great video!
@@FelonyRecords thanks for the advice!
Do you happen to know of a good place to get copyright safe background music? I’ve been meaning to look into that!
No mention of mike valley, Duane peters, or Matt Hensley lol I’m loving the videos man keep ‘em coming
Before all these bands, we skated to the Punk Rock that was out at the time like Devo's first 2 LP'S, Buzzcocks, The Dickies, Agent Orange, Dead Kennedys, 999, The Reds, The Vapors, Ramones, and probably a few others, some of which could be initially termed as Skate Punk, but probably was not intended to be.. since the music was high energy and great to skate to... it just happened.. This would have been 1978 through 1980, skating empty pools and wherever.. I wasn't any good, but my friends had some talent. I sure do recall the radical times and usually blasting out the Punk on the cassette boom boxes.. in our late teen years.
What an awesome channel! love your videos. please do A Wilhelm Scream
Don't forget Thrasher era bands - Big Boys, Los Olvidados, The Faction
Fuck yeah dude