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Exactly. On fords it just means recirculate cabin air. You should be on max a/c all times unless u want fresh air. But it doesn't effect the power loss or anything
@@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X if you're running the AC for a while the cabin air is gonna be colder than the air outside the truck. So running Max AC is gonna allow you to get air that's a bit colder than air coming out of the regular AC setting. The cabin air in this case is also gonna be less humid since it was already air conditioned, so Max AC will technically be more efficient too.
@@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X well when its 110°F heat index you want to cool the cool air in the cab not the hot humid air outside for a more comfortable cab. Why would you want more humid air coming in? Also it can make the a/c work harder as the evaporator is constantly fighting the heat amd humidity. I can get 37°F out of my vents on recirculate on a 90°F air temp(100+°F heat index) day. So theoretically uses less power in recirculate on "MAX a/c" on really hot days but regularly doesn't effect mpg etc. I also slightly overcharge mine so on hwy its ice cold. But im EPA hvac certified
Weirdly the 1990 dually I had was damn near perfect on the inside...save for the dirt and grime of 30 years. I drove it dirty like that for about 7 months when I got it then once spring hit I took the carpets and seat out...sprayed it all off with a garden hose then took a steam cleaner to it. Everything cleaned up well and looked amazing. Not a single rip or crack anywhere
@Zeksteve Can you remember the thick viscosity of it too? I'm gagging right now remembering when I did it in 1989. 31 years and I can't forget the feeling on my tongue.
@@tripplefives1402 the Idis from international had around 20.3:1 for the first generation of the 6.9, then they bumped it up to 21.5:1 for the rest of the 6.9 run. I can't speak for the 7.3 idis for certain but they're basically just a bored out 6.9 with different heads
A/C (or economy A/C): normal air conditioning, taking air from the oustide of the cab/car MAX A/C (A/C): its exactly the same, but the system recirculates air from the inside of the cab/car. On a very hot day, the proper way of using the system is first, select the "normal" A/C. After 10-15 mins and once the air is cold, select "MAX A/C", as it recirculates and re-uses air from the inside (colder than outside). This is, supposedly, more efficient and it reduces the cycles of the A/C compresor, meaning better MPG and colder air.
never knew that.....I was going to say just leave it on max the whole time...but its often hotter inside a cab than outside after a car has been sitting in the sun. The hotter the air, the harder the compressor has to work.
4:36 "A good running diesel shouldn't do that. They're just doing that for, y'know, attention." No freaking kidding. This guy is capable of rational thought. He must be shunned by the coal-rollers. SHUN! SHUN THE DISBELIEVER! XD
@@Pershingtank That's really cool! I didn't know that. Way too many of those steam engines on tourist railroads, they constantly "roll coal" on purpose for the photographers. I don't want to see it showing off, I want to see it running as it was meant to run.
@@michaelramsey82 Well excursion service is one thing, pleasing the visitors is the entire purpose. Revenue service on a real railway is something else, they kinda don't want hundreds of crews using too much fuel. :p
Pershingtank What about those old steam trains? Someone said it's for the tourists but I've seen footage from the early 20th century where the engines are definitely smoking
It will fit 3 large men or 4 rather delicate men, unless you don't mind sitting on a homie's lap (bring your socks). It's nice being able to stretch out in all directions while on the highway
@@Icutmetal and are you trying to when nascar. An IDI is built to haul and pull not win races or be a status symbol. If that's what you want buy a lambo.
3 point seatbelts became federally mandated in 1973. And the 55 highlighted speedometer was federally mandated as well. When there was the national 55 mph speed limit the govt required all speedometers to highlight 55 and they could not show any faster than 85. Which is why there were SVT Mustangs which we all knew could do 130 with 85 mph factory speedometers in the 80s.
The speedo was only required 1980-1982 models. Some manufacturers kept using 85 mph speedos longer than that and some manufacturers would use 100 something mph speedos but still highlight 55 for whatever reason.
Would the speedometers that maxed at 85 get screwed up if you pushed the needle a lot farther by going 100mph+? Because with the needle being at 5 o'clock position when doing 85mph, 120 must be like 7 or 8 o'clock, or on that speedo, 0mph mark again.
@@gregorymarsh9504 it wouldn't get screwed up, it would either go around again or there would be a needle put in place to physically stop it. Look up 1000+ hp cars doing acceleration runs and you'll see
@@shtupidmate OK. However, if there's a little nub or needle to stop it from going around twice, isn't it hard on the mechanism to be "trying" to continue going around but it's being physically stopped just with an object in the way? Seems it'd be a load on the speedo that might gum it up.
I literally can't watch him awkwardly look around without thinking that this dude was definitely picked up by the BangBus at some point but couldn't get his dingy hard and just awkwardly looked around like he is here while the cameraman said "bro you got a hot pornstar begging for it stop being such a p*ssy bro"
Damn, I miss trucks like this. When I was a teen and younger I’d visit my aunts and uncles in farm country. All the men, being farmers, drove F250s. I’ve ridden in the front and back of these so many times and later drove them. Somewhere around 2000 I caught a ride from a guy at work who bought a new Harley Davidson edition 4-door Ford. I knew then that the real work truck was dead.
@MyDailyUpload 2000, that would have been around the first generation of trucks engineered specifically to be more car-like. A response to a market full of city folk and non-tradesmen embracing the pickup and SUV. These days it’s the ‘crossover’ vehicle, lo and behold a new Chevy Tahoe looks a hell of a lot like a Blazer, which is now a crossover vehicle for soccer moms.
@@mr.butterworth Chevy really shit the bed with the Blazer. Especially now with the Jeep Gladiator and the new Bronco paying homage to the old school equivalents.
Robert I think the crown Vics especially the marauder and P71 will be The marauder because of its rarity and being this performance version the P71 because well cars that were used as police vehicles will always have that kind of historical interest as well as tons of people are modifying and customizing them because they're cheap and easy to modify I think the rangers from that era will become collectable too when they become hard enough to find in good condition. They're just really tiny like street legal toy trucks I definitely can see it they'll probably never make a truck that small again
You should wait for the glow plugs even if it's warm out. My understanding is that if you spray cherry red glow plugs with fuel then you scorch them and they don't last long.
The 80-97 fords are notorious for steering. The pump leaks and whines, the gearbox needs adjusting regularly(which many never do), and the tierods for the ttb were engineered for the bean counters rather then propper function.
Nomad IH Recirculating ball steering just sucks I have a 90s ranger with severe steering slop and we're just gonna throw a rack and pinion from a 90s explorer in it
like you were saying about "when it sounds angry....shift" . these older vehicles (even 90s stuff) just gives you more feed back.... (more roughness, vibration, harshness) they didnt have the motors, sound deadening material, door seals, sound resistance glass....electronic power steering....ETC . so a LOT of standard cars and trucks didnt have a tach....... you just shifted when it "sounded mad" . me, being a mechanic since 6 years old (no joke... i was removing parts at 6....with my dads help, of course) i have an ear for what 3000 RPM sounds like on a v8..... . on stuff i daily drive.... i can get around 100rpm +/- of what the actual engine speed is.... and i dont own anything newer than 99 (and will try HARD to not buy anything newer than 05.... just cant work on it as easy) . like despite being 26 and "progressive"...... i LOVE my 99 buick shitbox plastic fantastic century..... new cars require you to remove the bumper and grill to change a 15 dollar headlight bulb. . my old buick..... i can have both headlights COMPLETLY removed in 10 seconds . pop hood.... pull up on two tabs..... headlight falls into your hands . its like they took all the modern computer aided design programs..... and made it HARDER to work on so you are forced to bring it to the dealer.... VS your local CO-OP owned shop..... or just do it yourself... . hell..... you can hardly put on a spare tire with out calling the dealer these days... . i LOVE making "ok boomer" jokes...... but some of the shit they say is accurate....
I’m an engineering major in college right now and I can tell you exactly why this happens. Computers make it so easy to make an efficient and powerful engine, because as long as the sensors are reading right, the engine will work great. That’s no surprise. But when it comes to vehicle longevity? Oh man. I’m starting to think that the whole “planned obsolescence” nonsense is starting to become true. Having a lifespan on a vehicle is important from a design perspective- it gives everyone some standard or goal to meet- but setting the goalposts as low as 100k / 150k miles is starting to get annoying. I may be no mechanic like yourself, but I know crap when I see it. If I could go back to when I was 16 or so and look at the vehicles I could’ve owned- I should’ve swallowed my pride and gotten a new civic, or a Toyota UZ powered SUV from the early 2000’s. In the long run, it would’ve saved me money.
@@williams.779 my '96 2rz tacoma has been through three violent drivers and 250,000 miles. Has a 4ft gash in the rear quarter panel from a forklift, hardly any paint left. No frame rust, and the damn thing just KEEPS CHUGGIN ALONG not a fuck in the world
@@isaakwelch3451 I swear, people act like they have to reach in the back seat to turn it on or something! And the people that forget to turn them off are just as bad!
EM613 “I replaced the steering column, steering box, draglink, Pitman arm, idler arm, all tie rods, and dialed in the alignment perfectly!” *Still wanders*
I have an 85 4x4 and it's surprisingly okay as a daily. I have the auto though and it's probably a little slower than the one in this video. It doesn't help that there's a service bed on it that must weight at least 1500 pounds lol
That truck reminds me of my Dad's old F-250 diesel that he used to drive. So loud and chugga-chugga-chugga sounding and throwing that long ass gear shifter around from the bench seat.
I have a 1997 E350 7.3 Powerstroke with 3:55 I think. It’ll move a bit under idle power, but it won’t just keep going to 20+ mph. But of course it is an automatic, that may be the reason.
A friend of mine had an old '92 Crown Vic that would accelerate to 40 mph without even touching the gas pedal. I'm pretty sure the idle was messed up. He went through brakes like crazy because he had to ride them through town. It had been his grandma's car and he had it until about 2005, when it threw a rod with 48K on the clock 🤣
@@HanSolo__ Because in those days, displacement was everything. And the engines were horribly inefficient. But they'll run forever, unlike today's high compression ration, always on the edge of blowing up style of engines.
@@compmanio36 N/A and turbo MAN or Mercedes in EVERY single truck under 7,5t all under 5.2l. Each used commercially and each will run forever. Twice. A general engine overhaul - every 1,2mln km but going with some fewer HP to 2mln km possible. And those rarely run empty. A common thing was to load this thing to max payload and then add little something - both ways.
He mentioned not wanting to know about 4:10 gears. I've driven my father in laws truck which is a 454 Chevy with 4:10 gearing. You are in 5th at 40 mph, and it just revs up to 65. I tried to go 75 in it and it sounded like it wanted to explode.
I've got a IH 1210 crew cab pickup with a t19 4 speed and 4.56 gears. 3200rpm at 60mph. 1st has a 7 to 1 first gear. Tows stuff like a beast. Top speed in 1st is 4 or 5 mph at 4000rpm. Your in 4th at 35 mph.
When I bought my C20, it had 400 smallblock & 4.57s, so 65 was 3200RPM. Now, with a 427 talldeck & 4.10s, 3200RPM gives me 75. Considering I still have manual drums on all four corners, I'm not keen on going any faster. For comparison, my Caprice with a T56 & 3.73s, 1800RPM in 6th is 80.
I love driving stuff like this. It's always great when you get in a properly running car, and it works right, and nothing rattles. You always think its broken or not running.
“The light says the brake is on”. “No that light... its weird”. This is also the experience on the 80s Toyota pickups. They have the T bar style pull out and twist parking brake, and my light would sometimes stay on or flicker like that. That thing similarly chugged along, 78 horsepower carbureted 22R
I was hoping to see the pump! I used to work at a Gas station and any time we saw a Duel tanked Ford pull up we knew we would have to clean the spot after they left! Especially a diesel!
I had diesel Citroens though university. Always forgot and stalled when I drove freinds gass cars. Never used the gass pedal in town. Once above 20mph you could just stay in 5th all day, hills didn't matter. But acceleration wasn't a thing.
The reason it goes without any gas pedal is because the fuel control governor is doing it for you it's trying to maintain idle speed so it just keeps adding more fuel as you put a load on it I've driven diesel vehicles for 20 years. I had a '91 Ford 250 IDI I have a first generation '92 Dodge Cummins and I've had a 2003 TDI Jetta since 2004 you never need to hit the pedal to take off, you just let the clutch out.
I love the fact this truck is just so simple. Can you imagine having a modern 6.7 power stroke F-250 single cab standard bed with a manual cause it honestly would be great idea. But this truck is just a beauty, it’s hard enough finding a good condition 80’s Ford pickup that doesn’t have a cracked dash or torn up seats. This would be a great car to learn how to learn stick shift in city driving. Since you need ZERO throttle input to get rolling.
Not just boomers. I'm in my mid 20s, and my dad had an '86 F150 XLT with a fuel injected 302 that I learned to drive in. I'll always love these trucks, even if I'm more of a car guy.
My favorite tuck is a square body so yes I know idk why everyone has to assume something is incorrect because they don’t understand the context like a late aged boomer
One of my friends has a 1985 K10 with a 4 speed and I totally understand the gear hunting. It’s third in that one too where you’re like “where is it? Is this it?” BWAAAP “no that’s still neutral. Is THIS is?” CRUNCH. “Almost...”
I love these old idi engines. My grandpa has a mint 87 xlt 4x4 single cab with the 7.3 idi. He says that without fail, every single time he takes it out to get lumber he will get people asking him if its for sale.
This reminds me of my great-grandpa’s truck, he had an early 80’s F-150 with the same red interior and just seeing the interior in this truck brought back so much nostalgia, especially the steering wheel, what with its skinny rim and slim horn buttons that I loved to push when I was a little boy. These were trucks made for a singular purpose: to work.
I've been around quite a few of the old idis, but one in particular was odd. I wasn't even driving age yet, but a friend's father had one and it felt wicked slow Because it was. What was funny was when he hooked the 30' airstream camper up , it didn't get much slower. And they run forever.
I learned to drive in one of these! An F250, blue on blue! Then used it to pull horse trailers. The thing was slow as hell, but it could climb the side of a building if you wanted it to.
i have a 1999 105R Land Cruiser with the 1HZ engine it easily has over 20,000 hours and still going she could do with an overhaul hope to keep it in the family if i ever have grand kids its what they will learn to drive in. i love how its sounds at idle.
I have an 86 that I use as my farm truck. Dad bought it new. Still runs good but it really does not like the lower sulfur diesel that is at the pumps these days.
@@seththomas9105 didn't work. The only thing that helped is when I was able to buy 300 gallons of industrial diesel from before 2012. Higher sulfur content.
"How will I know when I'm getting too close to 3000 rpm" "Oh I don't know...when it gets overly loud." Love it! I had an 87 with a 6.9 and a T-19...never should have sold it! They're definitely just street legal, comfy tractors! The crazy part is it still got double the fuel mileage of my current 7.4 liter Vortec...
Economy AC? ..ok. Every.. I mean EVERY Japanese car I've been in has absolutely been colder to the same year American car. Also, way less A/C recharges needed. I haven't had enough experience with both American and Japanese cars in just the last couple years to know if American cars have caught up yet. They probably have though, since every part isn't really made in America anymore.
@@kevina2052 Duty cycle reduction dates back from the days when the "big" Honda engine was 1.6 liters and made 85HP on a good day, and base was something like 1.3L/60HP. AC was an appreciable percentage of your available power, and would start to really cut into the mileage on those smaller motors.
I'm an autobody guy. I can definitively tell you, MAX A/C = recirculate, so the old vehicles pre- 2000's would draw the air from the cowl panel ( bottom of the windshield behind the hood ) normal air is drawn in through the cowl vents and sucked through either the heater core in the dash, OR the A/C condenser also in the dash ( wich is basically an oil cooler that has a/c refrigerant in it instead of motor oil, same exact part though just different use case ) when you switch to MAX A/C it closes a plastic flap that seals off the cowl induction, and forces the air to be sucked into the A/C condenser inside your dash from air that's already inside your vehicle, thus instead of cooling outside air its cooling off the already cool air inside making it EXTRA cold. Important note about this * certain companies such as Chrysler/ Mercedes Benz/ and some others used Vacuum powered door flapper controls, when the rubber tubing dry rots and cracks from old age it can no longer suck hard enough to pull the door flaps closed, so your vehicle will permanently be stuck in cowl feed mode. Sucking air in from outside, wich means in the winter your heat will never feel hot in your old ass truck lol. I believe Chevrolet trucks had a cable for the door, like a hood release latch set up, not sure if fords had the air actuated ones like Chrysler Motors trucks D/W power wagon series.
Took my pop's IDI truck down the dragstrip, it did a mid 22 sec in the 1/4. Someone I knew in college had one with a turbo kit on it, he took it to the strip and it ran 20 or 21 sec. Turbo didn't seem to do much for speed in this case, haha.
My dad bought an '85 F250 new with the 6.9 IDI, 4 speed and 4.10 gears. It was slow and loud but pull anything you hooked to it w/o breaking a sweat. Loved that noisy old thing!
I had a few Volkswagen Mk1 diesels, and it's a very similar story. they roll coal naturally, don't even have to try. they don't have enough oomph to make it up a decent grade highway, so you're full throttle at 3rd gear doing 45mph, not accelerating or slowing down, blowing a giant black cloud the whole time.
I have a land cruiser 45 series 6 cylinder diesel pickup and it’s so similar to this. Slightly less luxurious and more like a work truck, but it’s a 4 speed, shift when it’s loud, a tractor, boomer attracter and slow
The trick to driving an old Diesel like that long distance without getting a headache is to cruise at your own comfortable pace, low and slow, which is often times much slower than the prevailing speeds. I drove 3+ hours to and from school every week in my E350 7.3 maintaining about 58 mph, mainly for fuel efficiency. Let people pass you, you’ll get there. Also, stuffing the passenger footwell with a big wad of plastic, foam, or some other sound absorbent material helps a LOT!
I can tell you stories about old idi trucks, and I'm not even a boomer, I just have spent a lot of time around them. Imagine if you had a 4x4 truck, put it in 4 low and its like a bull dozer. You can stand on the brake pedal all day and it won't stop. I still have my 1992 7.3 idi, had it since 2005 and used to have a debris hauling and landscaping business. That thing has towed or hauled everything imaginable. As long as you aren't in a hurry to get anywhere, they are a great truck to drive.
manual cars with big engines are easy to drive becase they dont stall i learned to drive in a ram with a 440 and 4 speed and never stalled the truck but when i wanted to drive my moms sentra that fucker was to picky with the gears.
@@HIDHIFDB I used to drive automatic twice. 1st - jeep grand Cherokee V8 (private import from the US), 2nd my father BMW E61 3,5td has a regular automatic. but hey, I'm from Europe, so things are fcuked up here ..of sorts.
my Cherokee has a "max AC" setting, which according to the owners manual: "max air conditioning setting is used when maximum fuel efficiency is desired, yet while still allowing the climate to be cooled" which as far as I am aware, means that the compressor just cycles on and off rather than just being always on.
10:15 off topic.... but a cool bit of history.... . buicks "dyna-ride" option ment the shocks and springs.... AS WELL as the seat foam was "customized" to the car.... to give the softest ride possible so YES!!!..... the seat springs ARE part of the suspension lol. . and on anything with a "body on true frame"..... their are rubber mounts between the cab and frame which was also "custom tuned" on the old buicks . these mounts are set up with one piece of rubber on top.... and a 2nd one on bottom. so it would adsorb shocks in both up AND down
There are 2 ways to roll coal in modern diesels. Remove the throttle timer (there is up to a 5 second delay between pressing the pedal and engine responding), then there is over fueling the turbo. The first is harmless.
"max" AC usually means it turns it to recirculate
Exactly. On fords it just means recirculate cabin air. You should be on max a/c all times unless u want fresh air. But it doesn't effect the power loss or anything
@@Deftonesdsm Why would you not want fresh air constantly?
@@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X if you're running the AC for a while the cabin air is gonna be colder than the air outside the truck. So running Max AC is gonna allow you to get air that's a bit colder than air coming out of the regular AC setting. The cabin air in this case is also gonna be less humid since it was already air conditioned, so Max AC will technically be more efficient too.
@@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X well when its 110°F heat index you want to cool the cool air in the cab not the hot humid air outside for a more comfortable cab. Why would you want more humid air coming in? Also it can make the a/c work harder as the evaporator is constantly fighting the heat amd humidity. I can get 37°F out of my vents on recirculate on a 90°F air temp(100+°F heat index) day. So theoretically uses less power in recirculate on "MAX a/c" on really hot days but regularly doesn't effect mpg etc. I also slightly overcharge mine so on hwy its ice cold. But im EPA hvac certified
@@Deftonesdsm I think you'd suffocate if you were on recirc all the time
These trucks are classic. Look up "Zip ties and Bias plys" that guy hammers on the idi's and they just keep going
Put er in the ketchup!!
Fuckn MINT
That guy is really funny
This is a hiddden gem channel
Peg's amazing.
I think this is the most gentle i have ever seen someone drive an IDI on youtube
Cause were used to Deboss and Zip Ties
It doesn't help that non turbo idi's are gutless and slow as dirt so everyone just beats on them to keep up with traffic
Zip ties literally never takes his off the redline
@@idontknowanythingaboutcars896 a little brake clean to help get the carbon off the valves while you put her into the ketchup
Same lmaoo
I can't believe how clean this truck is, not even a crack on the dash.
That dash should be in 20 different pieces by now.
RIP 90s Ram dashboards
@@bestmillimeter1858 yep, we have two 90s dodge trucks 😂.
Just a little more duct tape should fix it.
@@ccredmansvids A car crusher is the best fix
At least the speaker grill...it was the first to go on my 84
Weirdly the 1990 dually I had was damn near perfect on the inside...save for the dirt and grime of 30 years. I drove it dirty like that for about 7 months when I got it then once spring hit I took the carpets and seat out...sprayed it all off with a garden hose then took a steam cleaner to it. Everything cleaned up well and looked amazing. Not a single rip or crack anywhere
This truck makes me want to sprinkle copenhagen on my cereal.
@Zeksteve 🤢🤮
🤣🤣🤣
@Zeksteve Jeff Foxworthy made a song about that once...
@Zeksteve Can you remember the thick viscosity of it too? I'm gagging right now remembering when I did it in 1989. 31 years and I can't forget the feeling on my tongue.
Hallo I'm Dane, I don't understand the joke? Can you explain to me :)
Old truck only needed 2 modes:
1. Go
2. No Go
Still running after 30+ years. Love it.
And still very efficient.
"Don't get above 3000 RPM"
Zip ties n bias plies: hold my ether
Fuckn mint
Isaac miiiiiint
HOW DARE YOU!
@@whyunotlike2688
JUST A CHEECH!
@@tripplefives1402 the Idis from international had around 20.3:1 for the first generation of the 6.9, then they bumped it up to 21.5:1 for the rest of the 6.9 run. I can't speak for the 7.3 idis for certain but they're basically just a bored out 6.9 with different heads
A/C (or economy A/C): normal air conditioning, taking air from the oustide of the cab/car
MAX A/C (A/C): its exactly the same, but the system recirculates air from the inside of the cab/car.
On a very hot day, the proper way of using the system is first, select the "normal" A/C. After 10-15 mins and once the air is cold, select "MAX A/C", as it recirculates and re-uses air from the inside (colder than outside). This is, supposedly, more efficient and it reduces the cycles of the A/C compresor, meaning better MPG and colder air.
THIS
You beat me to it. Good explanation, Matias.
Recirculate is more efficient, so wouldn't it make sense to make that the "economy" mode?
never knew that.....I was going to say just leave it on max the whole time...but its often hotter inside a cab than outside after a car has been sitting in the sun. The hotter the air, the harder the compressor has to work.
On the MR2 it's slightly different it seems they use a relay to pulse the AC compressor clutch on and off at idle every so often with a relay.
4:36 "A good running diesel shouldn't do that. They're just doing that for, y'know, attention." No freaking kidding. This guy is capable of rational thought. He must be shunned by the coal-rollers. SHUN! SHUN THE DISBELIEVER! XD
Couldn't believe it either. A well tuned engine! What a concept...
Even actual coal burners know this! Look at N&W 611, the front face of the tender has "BLACK SMOKE IS WASTE" written in great big letters. :P
@@Pershingtank That's really cool! I didn't know that. Way too many of those steam engines on tourist railroads, they constantly "roll coal" on purpose for the photographers. I don't want to see it showing off, I want to see it running as it was meant to run.
@@michaelramsey82 Well excursion service is one thing, pleasing the visitors is the entire purpose. Revenue service on a real railway is something else, they kinda don't want hundreds of crews using too much fuel. :p
Pershingtank
What about those old steam trains?
Someone said it's for the tourists but I've seen footage from the early 20th century where the engines are definitely smoking
I like how the bench in this truck is so massive they're technically social distancing while driving.
I bet it could fit four people, if you really needed it
Alex Joke we used to have an 86 F-150 I can confirm it will fit 4 people
My step dad has his first truck he ever bought,a '93 F-150 with the 300 and a four speed,same long bench seat,whole thing out and inside is blue
Lol its probably looks a little bigger due to the Cameras wide angle lens but yeah not by much. These trucks can definitely fit 4 people
It will fit 3 large men or 4 rather delicate men, unless you don't mind sitting on a homie's lap (bring your socks). It's nice being able to stretch out in all directions while on the highway
Bryan said: "She choochin'?"
Day made.
skookum
Vice. Dick. etc.
@@tristangreene6407 Skookum as frig, in fact.
We need an Uncle Pull-Tab meets Uncle Bumblefuck video ASAP.
Y’all owe 1puglife a dollar
You have to drive a IDI naturally aspirated diesel to realise how incredibly slow and noisy they were.
Mine isn't slow. Then again I have no need to go over 55mph.
@@timesthree5757 It’s slow.
@@Icutmetal and are you trying to when nascar. An IDI is built to haul and pull not win races or be a status symbol. If that's what you want buy a lambo.
@@timesthree5757 Huh? In English, please.
@@Icutmetal umm it is in plain english.
A truck is not supposed to be a status symbol.
"Street legal tractor" is a good description for it.
Haha yes sir
My grandpa, who made it to 99, was an absolutely great man.
Just hearing that truck start up and I'm back with him for a moment. Damn, nostalgia hard.
Guy @ 6:14 - Amazing Boomer impression
RegularCars - He's learning
I would have thought it was regular except that the kid was talking. Well done!
50% of the comments = what Max A/C is
50% = other
I’m putting this one in the other column
3 point seatbelts became federally mandated in 1973. And the 55 highlighted speedometer was federally mandated as well. When there was the national 55 mph speed limit the govt required all speedometers to highlight 55 and they could not show any faster than 85. Which is why there were SVT Mustangs which we all knew could do 130 with 85 mph factory speedometers in the 80s.
The speedo was only required 1980-1982 models. Some manufacturers kept using 85 mph speedos longer than that and some manufacturers would use 100 something mph speedos but still highlight 55 for whatever reason.
Would the speedometers that maxed at 85 get screwed up if you pushed the needle a lot farther by going 100mph+? Because with the needle being at 5 o'clock position when doing 85mph, 120 must be like 7 or 8 o'clock, or on that speedo, 0mph mark again.
@@gregorymarsh9504 it wouldn't get screwed up, it would either go around again or there would be a needle put in place to physically stop it. Look up 1000+ hp cars doing acceleration runs and you'll see
@@shtupidmate OK. However, if there's a little nub or needle to stop it from going around twice, isn't it hard on the mechanism to be "trying" to continue going around but it's being physically stopped just with an object in the way? Seems it'd be a load on the speedo that might gum it up.
kind of interesting, my 74 F350 only has Lap belts
I like the owner guy a lot, cool dude.
I literally can't watch him awkwardly look around without thinking that this dude was definitely picked up by the BangBus at some point but couldn't get his dingy hard and just awkwardly looked around like he is here while the cameraman said "bro you got a hot pornstar begging for it stop being such a p*ssy bro"
J K you speaking from experience? seems like it
The owner is silently hilarious 😂 😂 😂
Damn, I miss trucks like this. When I was a teen and younger I’d visit my aunts and uncles in farm country. All the men, being farmers, drove F250s. I’ve ridden in the front and back of these so many times and later drove them.
Somewhere around 2000 I caught a ride from a guy at work who bought a new Harley Davidson edition 4-door Ford. I knew then that the real work truck was dead.
@MyDailyUpload 2000, that would have been around the first generation of trucks engineered specifically to be more car-like. A response to a market full of city folk and non-tradesmen embracing the pickup and SUV. These days it’s the ‘crossover’ vehicle, lo and behold a new Chevy Tahoe looks a hell of a lot like a Blazer, which is now a crossover vehicle for soccer moms.
@@mr.butterworth Chevy really shit the bed with the Blazer. Especially now with the Jeep Gladiator and the new Bronco paying homage to the old school equivalents.
I gota say super duties are more of a truck then the older ones. Sit more upright. More cab room and much better built.
@@codyparker679 inb4 modern trucks struggle to make it to 200k miles
These were everywhere when I was a kid in Georgia. Hard to think of these as classics now.
It's the beauty of aging. It might hurt but even 2001 Ford Taurus's will be classics.
@@caspeticpaletino372 To who? The trailer park guy with three of those bug eyed bastards on jackstands, blocks, and logs?
@@caspeticpaletino372 most early 2000s cars will be worthless garbage. They don't have the styling or performance to ever be valuable.
@@Robert-goose1 maybe a few are, anything after 2010 is absolute trash though.
Robert
I think the crown Vics especially the marauder and P71 will be
The marauder because of its rarity and being this performance version the P71 because well cars that were used as police vehicles will always have that kind of historical interest as well as tons of people are modifying and customizing them because they're cheap and easy to modify
I think the rangers from that era will become collectable too when they become hard enough to find in good condition. They're just really tiny like street legal toy trucks I definitely can see it they'll probably never make a truck that small again
Look how happy that kid is! Glad that he is not modifying it, he can apreciate it for what it is. That truck went to good hands.
:)
Man, I loved the subtle jab at modern diesel modders haha
The difference between “ac” and “max ac” in an older Ford is that Max recirculated the same air. Regular ac just vented fresh air
You offering to get him fuel was wholesome as frig.
*Edit*
I know you said you wanted to just for the experience. But still.
3:12
*"Oh, you just press down hard"*
*"Yeaheaha"*
Mmmm, non turbo IDI, the official *truck* of... I thought I'd kick ass at the truck pull, she pulls hard on the highway...
You should wait for the glow plugs even if it's warm out. My understanding is that if you spray cherry red glow plugs with fuel then you scorch them and they don't last long.
That's why I like the old Cummins used grid heaters. If its above freezing just get in and start it.
Converting to a switch helps too. Glow plug controllers are fickle and on a switch, you decide when theyre on or not
@@Ulfstigandr I deleted the glow plugs and went to air heater. Works great.
@@Ulfstigandr agreed, I’ve always put mine on a momentary switch and I can make a set of glow plugs last for many years
Remove them and buy either
"when the roads are good... well, 'good.' what's good in PA?"
this is authentic
"Do I need to get the glove or anything?" Every diesel owner watching lol's
The steering issue is from the intermediate steering shaft, it needs replaced. A new one is around $120 or so and takes around an hour to replace.
The 80-97 fords are notorious for steering. The pump leaks and whines, the gearbox needs adjusting regularly(which many never do), and the tierods for the ttb were engineered for the bean counters rather then propper function.
Nomad IH
Recirculating ball steering just sucks
I have a 90s ranger with severe steering slop and we're just gonna throw a rack and pinion from a 90s explorer in it
like you were saying about "when it sounds angry....shift"
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these older vehicles (even 90s stuff) just gives you more feed back.... (more roughness, vibration, harshness)
they didnt have the motors, sound deadening material, door seals, sound resistance glass....electronic power steering....ETC
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so a LOT of standard cars and trucks didnt have a tach....... you just shifted when it "sounded mad"
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me, being a mechanic since 6 years old (no joke... i was removing parts at 6....with my dads help, of course)
i have an ear for what 3000 RPM sounds like on a v8.....
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on stuff i daily drive.... i can get around 100rpm +/- of what the actual engine speed is....
and i dont own anything newer than 99 (and will try HARD to not buy anything newer than 05.... just cant work on it as easy)
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like despite being 26 and "progressive"...... i LOVE my 99 buick shitbox plastic fantastic century.....
new cars require you to remove the bumper and grill to change a 15 dollar headlight bulb.
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my old buick..... i can have both headlights COMPLETLY removed in 10 seconds
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pop hood.... pull up on two tabs..... headlight falls into your hands
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its like they took all the modern computer aided design programs..... and made it HARDER to work on
so you are forced to bring it to the dealer.... VS your local CO-OP owned shop..... or just do it yourself...
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hell..... you can hardly put on a spare tire with out calling the dealer these days...
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i LOVE making "ok boomer" jokes...... but some of the shit they say is accurate....
I’m an engineering major in college right now and I can tell you exactly why this happens. Computers make it so easy to make an efficient and powerful engine, because as long as the sensors are reading right, the engine will work great. That’s no surprise.
But when it comes to vehicle longevity? Oh man. I’m starting to think that the whole “planned obsolescence” nonsense is starting to become true. Having a lifespan on a vehicle is important from a design perspective- it gives everyone some standard or goal to meet- but setting the goalposts as low as 100k / 150k miles is starting to get annoying. I may be no mechanic like yourself, but I know crap when I see it.
If I could go back to when I was 16 or so and look at the vehicles I could’ve owned- I should’ve swallowed my pride and gotten a new civic, or a Toyota UZ powered SUV from the early 2000’s. In the long run, it would’ve saved me money.
@@williams.779 my '96 2rz tacoma has been through three violent drivers and 250,000 miles. Has a 4ft gash in the rear quarter panel from a forklift, hardly any paint left. No frame rust, and the damn thing just KEEPS CHUGGIN ALONG not a fuck in the world
Other than the loose steering, that truck is in WOW condition.
it needed an alignment in this video, I just got done with a 1500 mile round trip to Maine and it did 70/75 the whole way with a trailer
10:02 "What are they braking for?" Reason number 5 why you should use your damn turn signals!
Its not that hard yet some people arent capable of it
@@isaakwelch3451 I swear, people act like they have to reach in the back seat to turn it on or something! And the people that forget to turn them off are just as bad!
@@man_on_wheelz i watched a guy get a ticket for driving down the road with his turn signal on for miles. Soo satisfyint
"So it kind of wanders a bit" "...yeaaa...." hahaha Anyone who owns anything old knows that feeling. Just part of the experience
EM613 “I replaced the steering column, steering box, draglink, Pitman arm, idler arm, all tie rods, and dialed in the alignment perfectly!”
*Still wanders*
I was just watching that bit when i read this
I found a smaller steering wheel fixed the wandering in my 86 astro
@@gui18bif same
Last time I was this early, *Uncle Pull-Tab noises*.
I would definitely daily drive that truck
Like an eggshaped phalace!
I have an 86, it's my workhorse farm truck.
I have an 85 4x4 and it's surprisingly okay as a daily. I have the auto though and it's probably a little slower than the one in this video. It doesn't help that there's a service bed on it that must weight at least 1500 pounds lol
Where would you hide the trafficked children?
I daily drive an 89 5.8 gas with an auto. The twin traction beam 4 wheel drive is wonderful, it doesn't break your back like most trucks of that day.
That truck reminds me of my Dad's old F-250 diesel that he used to drive. So loud and chugga-chugga-chugga sounding and throwing that long ass gear shifter around from the bench seat.
Yeah bud, she chooches right proper
AvE
I had a 1990 F250 7.3idi ZF 5 speed with 3.55s and 30" tires. I would go all the way to 5th with no throttle. It went 28mph idling down the street.
HAD!!\/!!
I have a 1997 E350 7.3 Powerstroke with 3:55 I think. It’ll move a bit under idle power, but it won’t just keep going to 20+ mph. But of course it is an automatic, that may be the reason.
Basically a tractor
A friend of mine had an old '92 Crown Vic that would accelerate to 40 mph without even touching the gas pedal. I'm pretty sure the idle was messed up. He went through brakes like crazy because he had to ride them through town. It had been his grandma's car and he had it until about 2005, when it threw a rod with 48K on the clock 🤣
@@100percentSNAFU lmao throttle cable was probably just overtightened. Woulda been an easy fix
this is starting to get winga dinga.. we are getting OLD
Yeah but why it needs a freakin 7liter engine?
@@HanSolo__ Because in those days, displacement was everything. And the engines were horribly inefficient. But they'll run forever, unlike today's high compression ration, always on the edge of blowing up style of engines.
@@compmanio36 So an Ecoboost engine?
@@compmanio36 N/A and turbo MAN or Mercedes in EVERY single truck under 7,5t all under 5.2l. Each used commercially and each will run forever. Twice.
A general engine overhaul - every 1,2mln km but going with some fewer HP to 2mln km possible. And those rarely run empty. A common thing was to load this thing to max payload and then add little something - both ways.
@@crispindry2815 If you think it is snide, you are missing the point.
He mentioned not wanting to know about 4:10 gears. I've driven my father in laws truck which is a 454 Chevy with 4:10 gearing. You are in 5th at 40 mph, and it just revs up to 65. I tried to go 75 in it and it sounded like it wanted to explode.
I had a one ton chevy with the 454 and sm465 (4spd w/granny) and it would do 70 but you're screaming at that point.
I've got a IH 1210 crew cab pickup with a t19 4 speed and 4.56 gears. 3200rpm at 60mph. 1st has a 7 to 1 first gear. Tows stuff like a beast. Top speed in 1st is 4 or 5 mph at 4000rpm. Your in 4th at 35 mph.
When I bought my C20, it had 400 smallblock & 4.57s, so 65 was 3200RPM. Now, with a 427 talldeck & 4.10s, 3200RPM gives me 75. Considering I still have manual drums on all four corners, I'm not keen on going any faster.
For comparison, my Caprice with a T56 & 3.73s, 1800RPM in 6th is 80.
Me with 4:64 gears *laughs in pathfinder*
Owner should do his own TH-cam stuff. He's cool
"Will we attract boomers at the pumps" hahahaha I died
"No throttle input"
2nd gear
"Still no throttle input"
3rd gear
"There she goes still no throttle input"
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This guy suits the truck so perfectly it's great
I love driving stuff like this. It's always great when you get in a properly running car, and it works right, and nothing rattles. You always think its broken or not running.
“The light says the brake is on”. “No that light... its weird”. This is also the experience on the 80s Toyota pickups. They have the T bar style pull out and twist parking brake, and my light would sometimes stay on or flicker like that. That thing similarly chugged along, 78 horsepower carbureted 22R
love my tacoma to death. Its been punished for 250,000 miles and it just KEEPS GOING
I was hoping to see the pump! I used to work at a Gas station and any time we saw a Duel tanked Ford pull up we knew we would have to clean the spot after they left!
Especially a diesel!
I had diesel Citroens though university. Always forgot and stalled when I drove freinds gass cars. Never used the gass pedal in town. Once above 20mph you could just stay in 5th all day, hills didn't matter. But acceleration wasn't a thing.
The reason it goes without any gas pedal is because the fuel control governor is doing it for you it's trying to maintain idle speed so it just keeps adding more fuel as you put a load on it I've driven diesel vehicles for 20 years. I had a '91 Ford 250 IDI I have a first generation '92 Dodge Cummins and I've had a 2003 TDI Jetta since 2004 you never need to hit the pedal to take off, you just let the clutch out.
I love the fact this truck is just so simple. Can you imagine having a modern 6.7 power stroke F-250 single cab standard bed with a manual cause it honestly would be great idea. But this truck is just a beauty, it’s hard enough finding a good condition 80’s Ford pickup that doesn’t have a cracked dash or torn up seats. This would be a great car to learn how to learn stick shift in city driving. Since you need ZERO throttle input to get rolling.
In a lot of cars the "Max" setting on the A.C. means you are recirculating air from inside the cabin.
Not just boomers. I'm in my mid 20s, and my dad had an '86 F150 XLT with a fuel injected 302 that I learned to drive in. I'll always love these trucks, even if I'm more of a car guy.
First vehicle, still have it! A 302's mighty fine in a car too
It’s 4am and I’m watching video about my crap 85 idis inherent beauty. Thanks rcr
All you need with this truck is a mix tape with kids singing "when the wheels on the bus go round and round".
This post was made by square body gang, “it’s cool to be square...”
Squarebodies are 73-87/91 Chevys. That’s a Bullnose.
@@justinstearns9723 Still a brick....
Justin Stearns yes I know I’m saying Chevy gang is here to mock the bull noses
My favorite tuck is a square body so yes I know idk why everyone has to assume something is incorrect because they don’t understand the context like a late aged boomer
I mean a bull nose/snub nose is a slightly aerodynamic brick
One of my friends has a 1985 K10 with a 4 speed and I totally understand the gear hunting. It’s third in that one too where you’re like “where is it? Is this it?” BWAAAP “no that’s still neutral. Is THIS is?” CRUNCH. “Almost...”
I love these old idi engines. My grandpa has a mint 87 xlt 4x4 single cab with the 7.3 idi. He says that without fail, every single time he takes it out to get lumber he will get people asking him if its for sale.
This is *almost* like getting in my truck. I have the generation after this with the 7.3. Glad to see these engines getting some attention!
When is say “I want a truck” this is what I’m talking about.
"a good running diesel shouldn't do that" YEEEEESSSSSSS THANK YOU
@7:24 The most satisfying door latching sound ever. Any 80-96 Ferd F-series with good hinges just sound mint.
This reminds me of my great-grandpa’s truck, he had an early 80’s F-150 with the same red interior and just seeing the interior in this truck brought back so much nostalgia, especially the steering wheel, what with its skinny rim and slim horn buttons that I loved to push when I was a little boy. These were trucks made for a singular purpose: to work.
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"Max A/C" just opens the recirculation door and starts recirculating cabin air cooling the cabin down faster.
I've been around quite a few of the old idis, but one in particular was odd.
I wasn't even driving age yet, but a friend's father had one and it felt wicked slow Because it was.
What was funny was when he hooked the 30' airstream camper up , it didn't get much slower.
And they run forever.
I learned to drive in one of these! An F250, blue on blue! Then used it to pull horse trailers. The thing was slow as hell, but it could climb the side of a building if you wanted it to.
I love IDI engines. They will run forever
i have a 1999 105R Land Cruiser with the 1HZ engine it easily has over 20,000 hours and still going she could do with an overhaul hope to keep it in the family if i ever have grand kids its what they will learn to drive in. i love how its sounds at idle.
I have an 86 that I use as my farm truck. Dad bought it new. Still runs good but it really does not like the lower sulfur diesel that is at the pumps these days.
Add Marvels Mystery Oil.
@@seththomas9105 didn't work. The only thing that helped is when I was able to buy 300 gallons of industrial diesel from before 2012. Higher sulfur content.
"How will I know when I'm getting too close to 3000 rpm"
"Oh I don't know...when it gets overly loud."
Love it! I had an 87 with a 6.9 and a T-19...never should have sold it! They're definitely just street legal, comfy tractors! The crazy part is it still got double the fuel mileage of my current 7.4 liter Vortec...
Mr. Regular just tunes out completely a lot of the time that people are talking to him lol it's pretty funny
I love the smell of diesel in the morning :)
Max AC recirculates the air. Japanese cars with economy AC reduces duty cycle of the compressor, sacrificing cold for more fuel economy.
Economy AC? ..ok. Every.. I mean EVERY Japanese car I've been in has absolutely been colder to the same year American car. Also, way less A/C recharges needed. I haven't had enough experience with both American and Japanese cars in just the last couple years to know if American cars have caught up yet. They probably have though, since every part isn't really made in America anymore.
@@kevina2052 Duty cycle reduction dates back from the days when the "big" Honda engine was 1.6 liters and made 85HP on a good day, and base was something like 1.3L/60HP. AC was an appreciable percentage of your available power, and would start to really cut into the mileage on those smaller motors.
I just gotta say, love your Saab 900. What year?
I can't believe the disconnect in our society that happens in the space of 18-20 years with regard to driving and operating a pickup.
I'm an autobody guy. I can definitively tell you, MAX A/C = recirculate, so the old vehicles pre- 2000's would draw the air from the cowl panel ( bottom of the windshield behind the hood ) normal air is drawn in through the cowl vents and sucked through either the heater core in the dash, OR the A/C condenser also in the dash ( wich is basically an oil cooler that has a/c refrigerant in it instead of motor oil, same exact part though just different use case ) when you switch to MAX A/C it closes a plastic flap that seals off the cowl induction, and forces the air to be sucked into the A/C condenser inside your dash from air that's already inside your vehicle, thus instead of cooling outside air its cooling off the already cool air inside making it EXTRA cold. Important note about this * certain companies such as Chrysler/ Mercedes Benz/ and some others used Vacuum powered door flapper controls, when the rubber tubing dry rots and cracks from old age it can no longer suck hard enough to pull the door flaps closed, so your vehicle will permanently be stuck in cowl feed mode. Sucking air in from outside, wich means in the winter your heat will never feel hot in your old ass truck lol. I believe Chevrolet trucks had a cable for the door, like a hood release latch set up, not sure if fords had the air actuated ones like Chrysler Motors trucks D/W power wagon series.
Starting without gas only clutch? Immediately shift to second? From a stand still start in second???? Welcome to european driving school.
1st gear on these trucks was extra low, it's called a granny gear.
np435 is a hell of a tranny. I usually start in second since that first gear is 6.68:1 and reverse is even steeper at 8.26:1
Great engine. I take an IDI over a power stroke any day.
Took my pop's IDI truck down the dragstrip, it did a mid 22 sec in the 1/4. Someone I knew in college had one with a turbo kit on it, he took it to the strip and it ran 20 or 21 sec. Turbo didn't seem to do much for speed in this case, haha.
My dad bought an '85 F250 new with the 6.9 IDI, 4 speed and 4.10 gears. It was slow and loud but pull anything you hooked to it w/o breaking a sweat. Loved that noisy old thing!
“Do I need a glove?” Lol
U funny
"They don't make'em like THIS anymore"....
I had a few Volkswagen Mk1 diesels, and it's a very similar story. they roll coal naturally, don't even have to try. they don't have enough oomph to make it up a decent grade highway, so you're full throttle at 3rd gear doing 45mph, not accelerating or slowing down, blowing a giant black cloud the whole time.
I have a land cruiser 45 series 6 cylinder diesel pickup and it’s so similar to this. Slightly less luxurious and more like a work truck, but it’s a 4 speed, shift when it’s loud, a tractor, boomer attracter and slow
Would love to have one of those but I’m on the other side of the pond
They're a few in Europe! Oh so precious few but I've seen vids of em in Sweden.
You guys are matching. How cute
They match the paintjob too.
The trick to driving an old Diesel like that long distance without getting a headache is to cruise at your own comfortable pace, low and slow, which is often times much slower than the prevailing speeds. I drove 3+ hours to and from school every week in my E350 7.3 maintaining about 58 mph, mainly for fuel efficiency. Let people pass you, you’ll get there.
Also, stuffing the passenger footwell with a big wad of plastic, foam, or some other sound absorbent material helps a LOT!
Very boomertier story my guy
@2bit MarketAnarchist I don’t do too bad for an X’er.
@@mr.butterworth I'm playing. Judging people off their generation alone is dumb
these 8th and 9th gen F-series trucks with i6 300, 7.3 idi, and the 302 are some of the best they ever put out
5:04 or maybe it's the lovely Pennsylvania roads wandering?
Gotta burn that butter right mate🇦🇺💨😷
Some ac compressors can be intermittent (regular ac) but when set to max will be engaged full time.
I can tell you stories about old idi trucks, and I'm not even a boomer, I just have spent a lot of time around them. Imagine if you had a 4x4 truck, put it in 4 low and its like a bull dozer. You can stand on the brake pedal all day and it won't stop. I still have my 1992 7.3 idi, had it since 2005 and used to have a debris hauling and landscaping business. That thing has towed or hauled everything imaginable. As long as you aren't in a hurry to get anywhere, they are a great truck to drive.
This must be one of the easiest vehicles to drive stick in
Up to 3rd gear with no throttle input?
That’s insane
Did they mount throttle in it? What for?
Ikr? Its kinda automatic trans.. gas pedal.
MrKansai1 teghe it’s because the transmission is geared for towing and the engine has a lot of tourque
@@rowanprice2304 I know. Making fun.
manual cars with big engines are easy to drive becase they dont stall i learned to drive in a ram with a 440 and 4 speed and never stalled the truck but when i wanted to drive my moms sentra that fucker was to picky with the gears.
@@HIDHIFDB I used to drive automatic twice. 1st - jeep grand Cherokee V8 (private import from the US), 2nd my father BMW E61 3,5td has a regular automatic. but hey, I'm from Europe, so things are fcuked up here ..of sorts.
Boomer magnet is the name of my new ska band
this truck is so flipping cool. i love old 7.3s and 5.9s
my Cherokee has a "max AC" setting, which according to the owners manual: "max air conditioning setting is used when maximum fuel efficiency is desired, yet while still allowing the climate to be cooled" which as far as I am aware, means that the compressor just cycles on and off rather than just being always on.
SHE'S MINT!
Damnit I want one!
10:15 off topic.... but a cool bit of history....
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buicks "dyna-ride" option ment the shocks and springs.... AS WELL as the seat foam was "customized" to the car.... to give the softest ride possible
so YES!!!..... the seat springs ARE part of the suspension lol.
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and on anything with a "body on true frame"..... their are rubber mounts between the cab and frame
which was also "custom tuned" on the old buicks
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these mounts are set up with one piece of rubber on top.... and a 2nd one on bottom.
so it would adsorb shocks in both up AND down
There are 2 ways to roll coal in modern diesels. Remove the throttle timer (there is up to a 5 second delay between pressing the pedal and engine responding), then there is over fueling the turbo. The first is harmless.