@5:40, you’re correct, those are F1 circuits, though I don’t think anyone would call those classics necessarily. If you look closely you’ll see at least Abu Dhabi at the 9, Singapore at the 2, and I think Korea at the 6?.
ohh good call on korea. it's the one at 12. also donnington is in the middle right. they did host ONE f1 race 30 years ago.... but i guess that counts? A1 ring is at 1 o clock but im fairly sure some of those aren't F1 circuits.
not all of them are F1 circuits, i can recognize Donington park in the middle and road america at 7 I think? . What a strange selection of circuits to be honest.
Well I noticed the Korean F1 track at the 11, Austrias Red Bull Ring at the 12, Singapore Street circuit around the 3 o'clock and Abu Dhabi at the 9 o'clock. There's a few i recognise but can't put my finger on though
I have the blue one and I love it. First off, comes in much more impressive packaging than what Jody received. Definitely on or above par with the price. The blue is also more legible. It also makes it a bit more unique in styling. One thing to consider, is that this is about the cheapest way to get that movement. Most of what I could find were well north of $2k. That makes this an excellent value proposition. And the build quality is just stellar.
When someone is reviewing 30 watches a month it’s easy to get caught up in semantics, the bar gets higher and higher. I needed to fill the chrono slot in my collection and the Pitzmann checked off the boxes. The super great movement of my diehard Seiko Marinemaster 300m, over 2mm thinner than every chrono I’ve owned (Breitling, Tudor, Tag, Seiko…). For just having 3 watches in their collection, they’ve done a great job at creating a quality product that looks great. 5 years ago I would’ve never thought of purchasing a micro-brand but the watch industry has dramatically shifted for the better. The one thing I don’t like about the Pitzmann III is the date. It looks like an afterthought and impossible to see the date without a magnifying glass.
I do think one part that they've nailed (perhaps at the expense of WR) is the thickness. 13.2mm is really not bad for an automatic chronograph when most alternatives are in the 15mm range. Someone pointed out why not just get a Speedtimer - the automatic versions are really much larger than this. Frankly, I sold my Hamilton intramatic auto because the thickness was just a bit much at the end of the day. The fact they were able to fit everything in the package their presenting is pretty impressive.
Excellent point. Where I disagree with Jody on this watch is that I think that 50m water resistance is more than adequate, and pushing (pointlessly) for more would result in a thicker watch.
@@ivanharlokin Who exactly keeps on swimming or snorkeling with mechanical watches? And especially chronographs? I rarely see a person with a mechanical watch in the day-to-day life. 50m is absolutely perfect for a sport chrono. That watch would be on a rally leather strap half the time anyway.
i think on the one hand it certainly looks like the daytona and the speedtimer... on the other hand how many ways can you make a 3 subdial chrono without it looking a bit... vegemite like the seiko SFJ00X series you recently reviewed? i actually like that they've managed to put the date window at 6 instead of at the 4, 4.30 position like so many other 3 6 9 subdial chronos annoyingly do so.
I love the skeletonized hands, maybe shouldve darkened them or sth, but hands blocking the subdials is a frequent annoyance of mine, who uses the chrono function often. Also, props for launching a chrono and not another microband diver as their first tool watch
Very cool Homage, at least from the Look and complication. The price is a bit outside from what I would be willing to pay. Definitely a good option for someone that wants an "affordable" Daytona style chronograph. Thanks Jody 👍🏽
Taking a chunk out of the subdial that's parially hanging out into the main dial just to put a date window utterly ruins the lines for me. I know some people don't like 4:30 date windows but for a three-register chrono I feel like this glaring scar just doesn't work. Maybe 12 o'clock? Or something entirely within the subdial rather than bridging it? Otherwise seems quite nice. Pitzmann seems to be shaping up quite nicely otherwise as another fine CW-level brand. Nice to have more relatively affordable high quality.
@@JustOneMoreWatch That's very fair, and I was thinking that the hour subdial is the one to block because it's least used and easier to "eyeball" how many hours have passed without a visible metric. But the "straddling" thing just hurts me in an OCD way. I think if the date had been entirely in the subdial I'd have liked it more? Separate from that, thanks for your great work! You're my favorite youtuber.
I like the brand a lot. I have the Pitzman one. I’ll wait on this one, hoping that they’ll do some different variations. This does look like a great value, however.
My brother bought this one immediately on release. Looks great in person and he loves it. Really nice build quality. I think they are following the christopher ward business model. Do a few great homage watches and then go for some originals later.
It's a,very nice looking watch. I suppose it's totally impossible to come up with a white dial, black subdial chronograph that doesn't copy something. It actually reminds me of a Seiko chrono though I can't remember the model number. 50m water resistance is definitely not enough. 100m is the comfort zone for everything bar a dress watch. Excellent review Jody !
I've been wearing my Pitzmann Chronograph since it arrived just over a week ago. It's absolutely stunning. In terms of design cues, it's closer to a Zenith Yoshida Special Edition but for a 5th of the price and with a well-respected Seiko automatic chronograph movement. It's my first automatic chronograph and I'm very happy with it. Definitely recommend!
Interesting: a more critical review than I probably would have expected. I think this looks fantastic and has made me reconsider whether I would not actually like to add a chrono to my collection. Certainly, I'd prefer that to be automatic, and then, really, what choice do you have if you don't want to spend too much? Surely, this has the measurements, execution, and styling with just about as much improvements over the big boy as that it misses out on some things. I used to be in the 10atm camp all the way, but really, I don't see why anyone would deliberately enter the water with this and generally, one actually can, even with 5atm as long as they're not having too high expectations. Fair enough though, I reckon it should have been possible to offer 10atm, so why not do it? The bracelet length seems an odd one. Certainly there seemed to be plenty of spare length with the II, so why not with the 3? Is it because Pitzmann knew your size (you do advertise it regularly, after all)? The lume performance is a downside. Not because I think lume generally performs such an essential function, but that decay on the hands looked to be too quick. The handset, though, I think I'd truffle not to see it, but granted, with the white lume, I think one is better off with the ice blue version, which I think may just look a little better anyway. Given just how often the quality of Pitzmann is raved about, I think this is an easy one to recommend for those into chronos that have some budgetary restraints, but that's coming from someone who doesn't normally wear chronos and has had no hands-on experience with this one.
Y'know for a horology priority collector this represents great value, the auto column wheel entry point in Swiss is £5g+ for Zenith, Tags, this is seriously in the same ballpark for 3Gs less........try and find a Seiko at this price and specs
For me a butterfly clasp doesn't belong on any sports watch. The last thing you want is your watch flopping around on your wrist. It's the reason I didn't buy an aqua tera reaceantly.
I don't like chronographs at all so I'm probably biased but putting that movement in shows they are serious, lets hope its better than the NH35 at actually telling the time. It will probably be more reliable than the obvious Seagull alternative. And the build quality looks pretty good. I've got a really nice Tissot and its name is a 12 digit number so I couldn't tell you what it is, at least this naming scheme will let you differentiate between their products for a while yet.
This is great insight Jody. Thanks for sharing. I truly love Pitzmann Watches and this one is no different. Nonetheless, I feel you hit the nail on the head with your niggles … but they wouldn’t be showstoppers for me. I’d get myself the “Ice Blue” version 😍
I think this is. a stunning piece especially the blue. I to would like 100m WR but the rest is like Jody says a moan and niggle. I think we need to not expect all watches to have micro adjust etc because it’s the variety of watches that keeps us buying them. If I had the cash I’d buy this in a heartbeat.
It appears well made but so does a San Martin, as for the movement - many reputable genuine watch suppliers are selling the NE88 for $300 ( £238 GBP) as opposed to your rather expensive eBay search. Always interesting to see what's out there - great content as ever.
@@JustOneMoreWatch alright i recognise abi dhabi(aka yas marina), austria (A1 ring), and singapore in there. i don't think they're F1 specific as donnington park is in there too, unless you count the ONE time they hosted F1 in 93. a few others are familiar, and there's an oval in there so we could charitably call it the indy speedway xD
Too late. Been looking for a Daytona style for a while. Nothing great going on during the Ali sale. Decided to go with a Citizen CB5874-90A. Looks great, feels great, perpetual calendar, and it's radio controlled so it's always accurate. Set the time zone to NYC and done, the watch took care of the rest! Very happy with it. You need to get a radio controlled on your channel.
I think you hit it on the head early Jody: do we like it more than a Monta, Christopher Ward, Oris etc. Also depends on 1) how much finishing means to us and 2) how much stock/value we put in that premium movement. And how much stock we put in design.
Personally, I think it looks less busy and more legible than either the Zenith or Rolex. Just a better looking watch overall. Give it the improvements you suggest and I'd be very willing to drop cash for one.
Nice, except for the three littler clocks on the clock face, the confusing rings, and the extra hands and buttons... Does it have a day/date? And most important does it fit my 9 inch Dutch average wrist? Do they sell nice clean clear watches too?
I've been moist for an NE88 but I have a 7.5" wrist. I can forgive the water resistance, and probably live with the legibility (nothing beats a Speedy) but the bracelet makes it a pass.
Thanks, Jody, lovely watch, particularly the blue version. Agree totally on the bracelet, a watch of that size doesn't need a small clasp, and a larger one could have allowed for better adjustability. The name doesn't bother me, but it would be nice if there were a reason/background for it. That said, I don't think it has to be called "Tteokbokki" just so it fits a Korean brand stereotype...is Citizen a particularly Japanese name? I do disagree on the water resistance. That type of watch really doesn't need any more than 50m - which buffoon is going to dive with a chrono lacking screw-down buttons? It is more than adequate for a sports watch, and I'd rather have a slimmer watch than pointless extra water resistance.
If I could buy one watch right now, this would be it. The movement is supreme imo, but it's a little out of my price range. Instead, I'll drool at this and buy another tissot and san martin like I did 😅
Interesting that Seiko uses their Magic Lever mechanism even in their high-end movements and how similar the movement in the video looks to something like a 7s26 at first glance.
I just don't like it, the ring cutting through the indices makes it a but weird to my eyes. Impressive movement for sure, especially as until recently it was hard to get but not for me.
I wouldn't get an automatic chrono. Extra thickness isn't worth it. Winding watches is easy and I rarely wear the same watch for more than a day or two anyway.
Different case, different markers, handset, bezel-font and sub-registers design. If all those things we're true for a dive-watch, we wouldn't call it a submariner copy. By those criteria we would have to call said Rolex a fifty-fathoms copy.
If nothing else, I am an ardent and staunch supporter of their naming convention. Watch looks pretty sweet too, but not likely to buy one at that price even if it is or is not worth it. If I took the time to save that long to afford it, there would be other watches in front of it I would likely go for first.
The homage versus replica versus inspired-by versus ripped-off debate amongst _Watch Idiot Savants_ is exhausting. I don’t care. I get joy out of stealing another brand’s expertly manicured public persona. There are ~20 designs anybody cares about and they’re all 50-100 years old. You guys hate on stuff like Dicky Phillips or MKBHD or Ressence or Jacob & Co, so why should companies put any effort into designing unique and new watches when the most vocal segment demands Rolex look a likes?
Glad this one has a date function. What’s the point of being a chronometrically chrono certified chronometer with 1/8th of a second stop watch functionality when it doesn’t tell the date?! That’s the Top #2 function any watch should have. All watches should have a date function.
Might just be me, I figure I wouldn't call a panda, surely the most common color for a chrono, unoriginal. Especially if hypothetically I made a dive watch which could be confused with a Helm with a Pelagos bezel 😅
I am German and arrived just 1 hour ago the first time in Scottland/Edinburgh for sight seeing. Maybe I also find the path of becoming a watchoholic haha
For a mechanical chronograph, (that isn't an ST-1900), that probably is a pretty good price. But I personally just don't see spending that much. I honestly think one is better off with a quartz chrono. Either I'm cheap, or I'm sensible....take your pick. I won't apologize either way. :)
Ok , great build quality & great movement- but obscure brand😮 just seems too pricey for a design that’s way too close to many other watches..With obvious exception of patriotic Koreans, I can’t see why anyone would buy this rather than a version of a Seiko speedtimer...the value to cost of this just doesn’t add-up. I hope the brand puts its resources & built quality towards more original designs...
Here is why the Speed Timer will never see the inside of my watch box: as a pilot I NEED a 12 hour totalizer. Go look at any tri-compax mechanical chronograph. Find ANY with the absolutely moronic 24 hour dial? Nope, if you are not spelunking or taking a space walk……well, like I said…..moronic waste of dial space. If you want a cheap tri-compax with a 12 hr totalizer then try the mecha-Quartz Seiko movement VK-67. If Seiko had done that on the Speed Timer I would have snatched it up. That’s why. ☮️
Not to mention this brand sold reassembled watches (used for youtube review) as mint condition in Korea. Which is why they can barely do any marketing in Korea. TH-camrs delete this comment or just ignore when mentioned 🧐
Good review Jody. As you said getting that movement in a watch at this price is pretty impressive. I also like the way they've integrated the date as well. That being said though, the lack of any microadjust and the overall design just leaves me feeling a bit meh about the watch as a whole.
Agree about naming. About as silly as that Erebus 2 I keep getting emails for...😆
Haha! 😂
@@samthurgood ahahahhaha waiting for a model with a good movement sick of these 30$ siekos in every watch
It did end up getting a name Ascent
@5:40, you’re correct, those are F1 circuits, though I don’t think anyone would call those classics necessarily. If you look closely you’ll see at least Abu Dhabi at the 9, Singapore at the 2, and I think Korea at the 6?.
ohh good call on korea. it's the one at 12. also donnington is in the middle right. they did host ONE f1 race 30 years ago.... but i guess that counts?
A1 ring is at 1 o clock
but im fairly sure some of those aren't F1 circuits.
@@punkypink83One of them is Watkins Glen!
not all of them are F1 circuits, i can recognize Donington park in the middle and road america at 7 I think? . What a strange selection of circuits to be honest.
Yes, Road America at the 7, Laguna Seca at the 5?
Well I noticed the Korean F1 track at the 11, Austrias Red Bull Ring at the 12, Singapore Street circuit around the 3 o'clock and Abu Dhabi at the 9 o'clock.
There's a few i recognise but can't put my finger on though
I have the blue one and I love it. First off, comes in much more impressive packaging than what Jody received. Definitely on or above par with the price. The blue is also more legible. It also makes it a bit more unique in styling. One thing to consider, is that this is about the cheapest way to get that movement. Most of what I could find were well north of $2k. That makes this an excellent value proposition. And the build quality is just stellar.
When someone is reviewing 30 watches a month it’s easy to get caught up in semantics, the bar gets higher and higher.
I needed to fill the chrono slot in my collection and the Pitzmann checked off the boxes. The super great movement of my diehard Seiko Marinemaster 300m, over 2mm thinner than every chrono I’ve owned (Breitling, Tudor, Tag, Seiko…).
For just having 3 watches in their collection, they’ve done a great job at creating a quality product that looks great.
5 years ago I would’ve never thought of purchasing a micro-brand but the watch industry has dramatically shifted for the better.
The one thing I don’t like about the Pitzmann III is the date. It looks like an afterthought and impossible to see the date without a magnifying glass.
I do think one part that they've nailed (perhaps at the expense of WR) is the thickness. 13.2mm is really not bad for an automatic chronograph when most alternatives are in the 15mm range.
Someone pointed out why not just get a Speedtimer - the automatic versions are really much larger than this. Frankly, I sold my Hamilton intramatic auto because the thickness was just a bit much at the end of the day. The fact they were able to fit everything in the package their presenting is pretty impressive.
Excellent point. Where I disagree with Jody on this watch is that I think that 50m water resistance is more than adequate, and pushing (pointlessly) for more would result in a thicker watch.
@@ivanharlokin Who exactly keeps on swimming or snorkeling with mechanical watches? And especially chronographs? I rarely see a person with a mechanical watch in the day-to-day life. 50m is absolutely perfect for a sport chrono. That watch would be on a rally leather strap half the time anyway.
Am I the only one that sees a panda sticking it's tongue out?
Now I do 😂
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hahaha now I do! i cant unsee it now hahaha
At first I thought that was a stretch, but, yeah! Darn if it doesn't!
That would have been really obvious if they had colored the date wheel red with white numbers.
I've bought the white one and it is a stunning watch to wear. I love the weight and it fits my 6 ⅞wrist perfectly. Best $1200 on a watch yet haha
I bought the ice blue version. It hasn't left my wrist since it arrived just over a week ago. It's by far the most beautiful watch I've owned so far.
Really great to see an Erebus 2 announcement is coming! I wanted to support the first model, but it wasn’t exactly for me. Can’t wait to see the next!
i think on the one hand it certainly looks like the daytona and the speedtimer... on the other hand how many ways can you make a 3 subdial chrono without it looking a bit... vegemite like the seiko SFJ00X series you recently reviewed?
i actually like that they've managed to put the date window at 6 instead of at the 4, 4.30 position like so many other 3 6 9 subdial chronos annoyingly do so.
The date position is perfect. How often are you going to use a 12 hour subdial anyway?
Very good point. Of the several ways to do a 3 sub dial placement, this version is my preferred choice.
I’m like 99.99% sure this is the movement tag tried to pass off as in-house also. That movements doesn’t come cheap at all.
Loved the outdoor shot at the end. You should do more like these.
I love the skeletonized hands, maybe shouldve darkened them or sth, but hands blocking the subdials is a frequent annoyance of mine, who uses the chrono function often. Also, props for launching a chrono and not another microband diver as their first tool watch
Very cool Homage, at least from the Look and complication. The price is a bit outside from what I would be willing to pay. Definitely a good option for someone that wants an "affordable" Daytona style chronograph. Thanks Jody 👍🏽
I see the Singapore street circuit, and possibly Nurburgring?
Just ordered one last night after getting a promotion offer from work! Can’t wait!
Taking a chunk out of the subdial that's parially hanging out into the main dial just to put a date window utterly ruins the lines for me. I know some people don't like 4:30 date windows but for a three-register chrono I feel like this glaring scar just doesn't work. Maybe 12 o'clock? Or something entirely within the subdial rather than bridging it? Otherwise seems quite nice. Pitzmann seems to be shaping up quite nicely otherwise as another fine CW-level brand. Nice to have more relatively affordable high quality.
I thought it was actually quite a nice compromise, especially as the 12 hour is the least used sundial, and they used some colour. 🤷
@@JustOneMoreWatch That's very fair, and I was thinking that the hour subdial is the one to block because it's least used and easier to "eyeball" how many hours have passed without a visible metric.
But the "straddling" thing just hurts me in an OCD way. I think if the date had been entirely in the subdial I'd have liked it more?
Separate from that, thanks for your great work! You're my favorite youtuber.
@@JustOneMoreWatch a "sundial" does it have good lume? 😂
@@JustOneMoreWatchagreed. I really like the date placement, and that they made the date red adds a nice bit of color and visual interest
I don't know of ANY swiss or Japanese auto chronographs for $1299 USD. Do you? Please help me out.
I like the brand a lot. I have the Pitzman one. I’ll wait on this one, hoping that they’ll do some different variations. This does look like a great value, however.
My brother bought this one immediately on release. Looks great in person and he loves it. Really nice build quality. I think they are following the christopher ward business model. Do a few great homage watches and then go for some originals later.
It's a,very nice looking watch. I suppose it's totally impossible to come up with a white dial, black subdial chronograph that doesn't copy something. It actually reminds me of a Seiko chrono though I can't remember the model number. 50m water resistance is definitely not enough. 100m is the comfort zone for everything bar a dress watch. Excellent review Jody !
All that money for something that won't fit properly. Just like a lot of grand seikos! I'll pass...
Ooooohhh cool idea, actually do the f1 circuits on the back of a watch!
I've been wearing my Pitzmann Chronograph since it arrived just over a week ago. It's absolutely stunning. In terms of design cues, it's closer to a Zenith Yoshida Special Edition but for a 5th of the price and with a well-respected Seiko automatic chronograph movement. It's my first automatic chronograph and I'm very happy with it. Definitely recommend!
Stunning watch. Looks unique enough. Wouldn't mind seeing more watches using that movement.
Yes sir…8R series are very serious movements! Nice watch.
Interesting: a more critical review than I probably would have expected. I think this looks fantastic and has made me reconsider whether I would not actually like to add a chrono to my collection. Certainly, I'd prefer that to be automatic, and then, really, what choice do you have if you don't want to spend too much? Surely, this has the measurements, execution, and styling with just about as much improvements over the big boy as that it misses out on some things. I used to be in the 10atm camp all the way, but really, I don't see why anyone would deliberately enter the water with this and generally, one actually can, even with 5atm as long as they're not having too high expectations. Fair enough though, I reckon it should have been possible to offer 10atm, so why not do it? The bracelet length seems an odd one. Certainly there seemed to be plenty of spare length with the II, so why not with the 3? Is it because Pitzmann knew your size (you do advertise it regularly, after all)? The lume performance is a downside. Not because I think lume generally performs such an essential function, but that decay on the hands looked to be too quick. The handset, though, I think I'd truffle not to see it, but granted, with the white lume, I think one is better off with the ice blue version, which I think may just look a little better anyway. Given just how often the quality of Pitzmann is raved about, I think this is an easy one to recommend for those into chronos that have some budgetary restraints, but that's coming from someone who doesn't normally wear chronos and has had no hands-on experience with this one.
The one near top right is definitely Watkins Glen International GP circuit.
Y'know for a horology priority collector this represents great value, the auto column wheel entry point in Swiss is £5g+ for Zenith, Tags, this is seriously in the same ballpark for 3Gs less........try and find a Seiko at this price and specs
For me a butterfly clasp doesn't belong on any sports watch. The last thing you want is your watch flopping around on your wrist. It's the reason I didn't buy an aqua tera reaceantly.
I quite like the look. It skews closer to the Primero, but changes all the design elements I didn't like in the original
Hi, I have a 7 3/4” wrist. Will this bracelet be big enough? The wrist sizes are not detailed. Regards,
That date there. Wow. I hadn't realised. Fantastic. I'm in
It's a gorgeous looking watch, I really like it. But I can already hear the Rolex gatekeepers sharpen their knives...😬
As a Korean I'm hooked andbhes not even through the intro 😂
I don't like chronographs at all so I'm probably biased but putting that movement in shows they are serious, lets hope its better than the NH35 at actually telling the time. It will probably be more reliable than the obvious Seagull alternative. And the build quality looks pretty good. I've got a really nice Tissot and its name is a 12 digit number so I couldn't tell you what it is, at least this naming scheme will let you differentiate between their products for a while yet.
This is great insight Jody. Thanks for sharing.
I truly love Pitzmann Watches and this one is no different.
Nonetheless, I feel you hit the nail on the head with your niggles … but they wouldn’t be showstoppers for me.
I’d get myself the “Ice Blue” version 😍
The Breitling Navitimer may only be water resistant to 30 meters but the Omega Speedmaster Professional Moonwatch is to 50 meters 😉
Those are Definitely race tracks! No doubt.
Their webpage says that they unveiled a new watch under the project name "Deuce" ... Does that mean that they dropped a deuce? 🤣🤣
Beautiful...
Nearly everywhere watch copies each other's design in one way or another. It's inevitable because a watch has such a centralised function.
I think this is. a stunning piece especially the blue. I to would like 100m WR but the rest is like Jody says a moan and niggle. I think we need to not expect all watches to have micro adjust etc because it’s the variety of watches that keeps us buying them.
If I had the cash I’d buy this in a heartbeat.
That's a good price for a mechanical chronograph with an 8R movement 🎉
I find this watch pretty convincing
It appears well made but so does a San Martin, as for the movement - many reputable genuine watch suppliers are selling the NE88 for $300 ( £238 GBP) as opposed to your rather expensive eBay search. Always interesting to see what's out there - great content as ever.
those ARE racing tracks on the caseback. classic tracks maybe not(like come on yas marina is in there xD) but they're at the very least racetracks.
Well, if they can't be named, then they are just squiggly lines!
@@JustOneMoreWatch give me a moment im sure i can name them all 🤣
@@JustOneMoreWatch alright i recognise abi dhabi(aka yas marina), austria (A1 ring), and singapore in there. i don't think they're F1 specific as donnington park is in there too, unless you count the ONE time they hosted F1 in 93. a few others are familiar, and there's an oval in there so we could charitably call it the indy speedway xD
The Marina Bay Street Circuit is clear enough, Pitzmann being a Singapore brand.
Spaghetti! I’m now hungry.
Reminds me of Pagani Design
For just pennies on the dollar and it keeps perfect time.
Would be curious how this compares to the Sugess chrono with the Peacock SL-4801 mvt for under $400
Modern Speedmasters have 50m of water resistance
Too late. Been looking for a Daytona style for a while. Nothing great going on during the Ali sale. Decided to go with a Citizen CB5874-90A. Looks great, feels great, perpetual calendar, and it's radio controlled so it's always accurate. Set the time zone to NYC and done, the watch took care of the rest! Very happy with it. You need to get a radio controlled on your channel.
As always a very objective review, good job!
Great vid. Too much money for the whole package. I think this will sell well in Korea though. Love the wink at the end. LOL.
Looks like any other chronograph, not copying anyone or anything.
Yes
I think you hit it on the head early Jody: do we like it more than a Monta, Christopher Ward, Oris etc.
Also depends on 1) how much finishing means to us and 2) how much stock/value we put in that premium movement.
And how much stock we put in design.
I think it’s worth every dollar; HOWEVER, the price puts them in a VERY crowded group. I am interested to see where they from here though. Thanks!
One of the circuits is Singapore
The Blue Face will be in my collection. Wow. Love your show by the way Thanks!
Personally, I think it looks less busy and more legible than either the Zenith or Rolex. Just a better looking watch overall. Give it the improvements you suggest and I'd be very willing to drop cash for one.
The lume and bracelet are dealbreakers for me at this price. Should be much better.
Nice, except for the three littler clocks on the clock face, the confusing rings, and the extra hands and buttons... Does it have a day/date? And most important does it fit my 9 inch Dutch average wrist? Do they sell nice clean clear watches too?
It has the date, no day, they say the bracelet is for up to 10 in but you can probably request more links just to be safe.
Amazing looking watch and the quality looks top notch, but man that name...
Who is the brand named for?
Pity they couldn't come up with some more genuine-sounding Korean name.
I've been moist for an NE88 but I have a 7.5" wrist. I can forgive the water resistance, and probably live with the legibility (nothing beats a Speedy) but the bracelet makes it a pass.
Thanks, Jody, lovely watch, particularly the blue version. Agree totally on the bracelet, a watch of that size doesn't need a small clasp, and a larger one could have allowed for better adjustability.
The name doesn't bother me, but it would be nice if there were a reason/background for it. That said, I don't think it has to be called "Tteokbokki" just so it fits a Korean brand stereotype...is Citizen a particularly Japanese name?
I do disagree on the water resistance. That type of watch really doesn't need any more than 50m - which buffoon is going to dive with a chrono lacking screw-down buttons? It is more than adequate for a sports watch, and I'd rather have a slimmer watch than pointless extra water resistance.
If I could buy one watch right now, this would be it. The movement is supreme imo, but it's a little out of my price range. Instead, I'll drool at this and buy another tissot and san martin like I did 😅
Brands Hatch, Red Bull Ring, Watkins Glen, Road America, ...
Interesting that Seiko uses their Magic Lever mechanism even in their high-end movements and how similar the movement in the video looks to something like a 7s26 at first glance.
yes, I've said that many times.
I just don't like it, the ring cutting through the indices makes it a but weird to my eyes. Impressive movement for sure, especially as until recently it was hard to get but not for me.
Great looking watch, but it would have been far better as a no date. I am just not sure if i would spend over £1100 on one, though.
I absolutely love it.
This is a stunning watch with and amazing movement, big tick from me
I like it, but it's out of my price range. Definitely think it looks better than the new/current mechanical Speed Timer though.
It is a homage and i coukd never do that. Its nice, good movement etc but its a copy. Never
Their designs seem to never be extremely original, always classic designs with distinctive touches, such as the lug shape. I like them overall.
Solid looking watch.
Does anyone use the Tach scales?
Nice, but the bracelet issues would be a deal-breaker for me.
How accurate is the Seiko Movement?
pretty darn
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Not very!
+25/-15 seconds/day (Seiko "C" standard)
I wouldn't get an automatic chrono. Extra thickness isn't worth it. Winding watches is easy and I rarely wear the same watch for more than a day or two anyway.
Different case, different markers, handset, bezel-font and sub-registers design. If all those things we're true for a dive-watch, we wouldn't call it a submariner copy. By those criteria we would have to call said Rolex a fifty-fathoms copy.
I think they missed a chance to create a Seiko 6138 homage with that movement.
Don't get me started!
Magic they managed to make that movement cased thinner, but yes design should've been less derivative. A lot of potential
If nothing else, I am an ardent and staunch supporter of their naming convention. Watch looks pretty sweet too, but not likely to buy one at that price even if it is or is not worth it. If I took the time to save that long to afford it, there would be other watches in front of it I would likely go for first.
The homage versus replica versus inspired-by versus ripped-off debate amongst _Watch Idiot Savants_ is exhausting. I don’t care. I get joy out of stealing another brand’s expertly manicured public persona. There are ~20 designs anybody cares about and they’re all 50-100 years old. You guys hate on stuff like Dicky Phillips or MKBHD or Ressence or Jacob & Co, so why should companies put any effort into designing unique and new watches when the most vocal segment demands Rolex look a likes?
Glad this one has a date function. What’s the point of being a chronometrically chrono certified chronometer with 1/8th of a second stop watch functionality when it doesn’t tell the date?! That’s the Top #2 function any watch should have. All watches should have a date function.
did you mean Dicky Mountbatten?
Might just be me, I figure I wouldn't call a panda, surely the most common color for a chrono, unoriginal. Especially if hypothetically I made a dive watch which could be confused with a Helm with a Pelagos bezel 😅
I am German and arrived just 1 hour ago the first time in Scottland/Edinburgh for sight seeing. Maybe I also find the path of becoming a watchoholic haha
I hope the weather improves for you.
Jody's really working up a sweat in his watch dungeon to bring us Korea's latest...
Nice seductive wink there Jody 😂😂
I kind of like it....
For a mechanical chronograph, (that isn't an ST-1900), that probably is a pretty good price. But I personally just don't see spending that much. I honestly think one is better off with a quartz chrono. Either I'm cheap, or I'm sensible....take your pick. I won't apologize either way. :)
This is a complicated premise Jody. Popcorn ready...
Disappointing WR rating and with my 8 inch wrists I doubt it'd even fit me.... too bad, as it's a nice looking piece!
"Two...three...you know what comes after three?"
"Four?"
--Desperate Housewives
E.g. Glock model nomenclature. Your first model is 1, and you go from there.
I think it has more of a Tag Heuer Carrera chrono vibe than the daytona.
Ok , great build quality & great movement- but obscure brand😮 just seems too pricey for a design that’s way too close to many other watches..With obvious exception of patriotic Koreans, I can’t see why anyone would buy this rather than a version of a Seiko speedtimer...the value to cost of this just doesn’t add-up. I hope the brand puts its resources & built quality towards more original designs...
I think some people like the more niche brand, though I almost wish their name sounded more Korean
Not sure I agree, argument in comment.
Here is why the Speed Timer will never see the inside of my watch box: as a pilot I NEED a 12 hour totalizer. Go look at any tri-compax mechanical chronograph. Find ANY with the absolutely moronic 24 hour dial? Nope, if you are not spelunking or taking a space walk……well, like I said…..moronic waste of dial space. If you want a cheap tri-compax with a 12 hr totalizer then try the mecha-Quartz Seiko movement VK-67. If Seiko had done that on the Speed Timer I would have snatched it up. That’s why. ☮️
Absolute snoresville. Such a bland stamped dial presentation. If I'm paying this kind of money you've got to up your logo game.
Not to mention this brand sold reassembled watches (used for youtube review) as mint condition in Korea. Which is why they can barely do any marketing in Korea. TH-camrs delete this comment or just ignore when mentioned 🧐
Most watches on the channel are a copy.
Those lugs are hideous though so it’s very unique IMO.
20mm lug width is very microbrand these days.
Lovely watch but price, non adjustability 😬
They want to be the Korean Grand Seiko but have a German brand name. 🙄
The name is also pretty horrid! Sounds too close to p*ssman. Very unfortunate.
Reminds me of these Aliexpress brands like Lobinni, Italian sounding, and then put Interlaken on the dial but the watch is entirely made in China 😆
Good review Jody. As you said getting that movement in a watch at this price is pretty impressive. I also like the way they've integrated the date as well. That being said though, the lack of any microadjust and the overall design just leaves me feeling a bit meh about the watch as a whole.
Don't knock the name - it worked for Rocky