All joking and sarcasm aside. There are better ways to spend your $100 on a watch. Stop trying to be something you are not, and make more effort to be the guy that can buy the Tudor.
This video has everything: -Two more watches than a normal single watch review -average sized wrists -pocket shots -oxymorons (plastic tin) -jazz music -photocopiers set at .95 -lume shots -Champaign vs opaline -61 extra Pagani watches -vestigial divers extensions -tonal mismatches -UGS -Fairy tale references -and Jody's famous "Helooooo" Thank you
The San Martin’s plain oyster bracelet being reused on many of their watches isn’t a bad thing at all IMO. It’s the cleanest and best looking bracelet design and I would prefer it over rivets any day.
Same. I could never get over the chunkiness of the black bay. I love their designs, I love the price point and everything else about Tudor, but I just can't wear that watch. Its just too odd a case shape (for me)
Funny thing is, I use the diver extension on my PD Chrono all the time while wearing the watch at work. It is just enough to relax the watch when my wrist swells and then I lock it in after work. I use the micro adjustment for fitment through the year but on almost a regular, I am popping my extension open and close.
Great review! It’s amazing how well these homages do even when sitting next to the watch they are based on. When all 3 were first shown I thought the San Martin was the Tudor until I looked closer!
4:24 The subtle spritzes of comedy on this channel are just right up my alley. I love it. "Not chapagne, not, white, not ivory, but opaline, don't you know." 😂
I just ordered the Pagani. With the snowflake hour hand and the snow white dial, it’s a nice tribute to winter. I don’t mind that its snowflake on the hour hand is almist cartoonishly large in proprtion to the hand and isl, as compared to those of the Tudor. I like the Pagani’s compression of dial elements vs the Tudor. The cherry on top is the Pagani’s mecha quartz movement. It embodies the best of quartz and mechanical!. Got mine for $73 from Amazon. Thanks, Jodie for the heads up! A great review with a classy nusic bed.
Great video Jody! Love all you do. Just wanted to share few tips on adding music to your videos: - Having too many songs in one video can be distracting for viewers, I would pick one or two and just loop them again and again. It helps with the continuity of the video. - Really didn’t love the first two tracks, but the two bossa nova inspired tracks and the downtempo 5th track are really nice. I would definitely recommend looping these, and people will learn to love them. - Definitely know as a creator the excitement of including music with your videos. All of the music in my videos are my own creations so I always hope people love them. That being said, I do think you cranked up the volume a tad too high in this one. I typically go minus 30dB on the main tracks, and closer to minus 15dB on my intro and outro music. I find that a good level most people accept. Try looping the two or three best songs and then lower the volume a bit and you’ll be golden. All in all amazing comparison! I owned this BB Chrono previously and do consider it worth the money for what it’s offering as a column wheel chronograph. Please don’t take my comment as anything more than constructive criticism from someone who also loves to include music in their videos. Keep up the great work and cheers from Hong Kong! 🍻
I personally like the diver extensions as my wrist size will change pending the weather. It’s just slight enough that an extension allows a looser fit in hotter weather without messing with links
Hey there Jody, I have to leave a bit of feedback. I watched this review on a smart TV using its own speakers and I've got to say the music was more distracting than anything else. Sometimes your words blended with the music and I couldn't hear what you were saying. Despite all that I was glad once again to get my JOMW fix.
Jody, I really appreciate these kind of reviews. It is nice to see how the homages get to the original. Money is a resource that should be used wisely. That being said, I love the fact that there are the San Martin’s and Pagani Design’s out there. If you are not sure a Tudor would be for you, better to try the homage first and see. Also, I just can’t see paying over $1k for a watch. I appreciate how they are made and with my experience in metalworking I know what it takes. Just too hard for me to pull the trigger. A big thank you to Mr. X, San Martin Official Store and Trendy’s so you could make this happen.
maybe just buy ONE really nice watch.. I started in Longines, and that gave me a taste of what a premium or entry level luxury watch felt like. It is very satisfying and a noticable difference from the affordable sector. Having said that, it also makes you appreciate what you can get for $500. Take a look at the Longines Conquest line.. for $1225 you get a fine timepiece with heritage and prestige. In fact on Joma they like $900 if you're willing to put up with their shenanigans and wait however long (I dont suggest it).
@@robbiecleighmarks3088 I’ve have thought about it. I have quite a few Seiko’s and the dial work and the finishing are incredible. I just wish their QC was better when it comes to dial/hands/bezel alignment. You can spend $1500 on a Seiko and have misalignment.
i don't disagree in the slightest, however, i wish more people held this sentiment for clones/reps. The value on some clones is incredible. People have no issue buying crappier homage watches that try desperately to look like something else barring the logo. But the minute you mention love/interest for reps, people will typically be super dismissive and shit on you. It is rather mind boggling.
@@Megatraum504 I think the main reason is when owning something like an AP or Patek it communicates that you have wealth and having a fake means you do not possess the wealth you are trying to show off / fake
One should stress how much of value proposition in the Tudor is the movement: Brietling B-01 improved with silicium hairspring + tungsten rotor... 5k Tudor vs. 8.5k for the cheapest Brietling (+ the water resistance, ceramic ball barings...)
I'd LOVE to see more of these vids Jody. With more top pricey watches and their tiered alternative homages. I think many others would too. Love your work mate 👍☺️🇦🇺
Great comparison Jody. Not too sure about the 70s porno soundtrack though 😂. It's a real shame with that Tudor lume, they got it right with their BB58 so no reason to not get it as good on the chrono.
I picked up the same Tudor only 3 months old for $3,000 USD. I had the Pagani first and then the Tudor came up and I had the funds and pulled the trigger. Don’t regret it got a hell of a watch for a hell of a price.
GREAT video! It's really nice to see these brands and homages compared to each other, "head to head to head"! (However, you could drop the background muzak, though…) 😉
Nice comparison review Jody! San Martin is killin it lately, IMHO. I actually like the look of the San Martin more than the Tudor, it seemed the most proportionate. I think my 1st San Martin will be their SN012, "original cough HELM VANUATU cough design", which again, I like more than what it's homaging. I just purchased that MIDO OCEAN STAR GMT you reviewed a while back, so it might be a minute before I get that San Martin though lol. JOMW always top notch reviews!
I just bought this San Martin. Can Anybody please drop a link for a display caseback? Ive googled and youtubed and read comments reddit etc etc... nothing tells me what size ir what part for this model. There are display case backs but which one for this model?
That is probably my favorite watch the Tudor chronometer panda dial. I would grab the San Martin in a heartbeat because I really like their watches, love the fact that they have Seiko movements usually on the automatics, but I just can’t get around that off white dial. I wish it was white like the Tudor. I really like the San Martin bracelet. I’m happy that they did bring it over to this watch. I really like how it wears the finish and I really like the on the fly adjustment. I think it’s a top-notch bracelet on a watch of this price category.
More of these please! How about: - Rolex Daytona vs. Sugess automatic chronograph vs. PD-1644. - Omega Speedmaster vs. Phylida Speedy homage vs. PD-1701 v3. - Omega Seamster NTTD vs. Heimdallr Sea Ghost vs. PD-1667 (and/or any of about a dozen others).
I bought the Pagani but with black dial several months ago Jody. Today I was looking at the Tudor site, looked at the the BB chrono & moved on!😱😂 What I did buy was the Tudor 1926, 39mm with yep, the OPALINE dial!😂 I have enough Pagani chrono’s!🤭👍🏻😎
Love the comparison video as always Jody. Would love to see some more like this, like the Tudor FXD vs the tactical frog homage or Tudor Ranger vs San Martin homage
need your review on Seiko sub brands like Alba/Loris. they have some great under 100 USD divers which can be a good alternative for someone looking for a cheaper seiko
I’d like to take a Seiko solar speedtimer movement and dial, and install them in a Tudor or Daytona inspired case. Thus providing screw down crown and pushers for the solar speedtimer.
I have a few Pagani Fauxmegas and Faulexes and although totally unoriginal, they are pretty good for the price and they scratch the itch. Especially when it’s your videos that cause the itch in the first place! Keep up the great work.
You’re not alone sir, Sub, Batman, James B and lastly a Moonwatch. All great to wear, able to do boat work without worrying that I’m going to clonk the price of a 150hp outboard on my wrist. You can’t go wrong with a Pagani.
When I got to my local AD looking for Pelagos, I saw the BB Chrono and it was in that coloration. There's no way I would choose the San Martin or Pagani instead of the Tudor. No way in hell. The watch in person is stunning and I really like the movement co shared with Breitling. This isn't me trying to be a snob, but don't just disregard the Tudor "because it's expensive". If I have to get a cheap chrono I would go the Seiko Flightmaster instead of the two homages any day. Anyone who claims the San Martin and the Pagani are better choices over the Tudor while disregarding the Seiko Flightmaster is on heavy dosages of copium.
I think the UGS mean Upgrade Grand Series. When Pagani first released the panda they had a different caseback that stated UGS...but it was unpopular so they switched the caseback design....
I'm looking PD-1718 and PD-1644 now but i can't choose correct one. Which one is more comfortable and has better finishing and better build quality. Comfort and build ( specially bracelett ) most important for me. ( Sorry for my limited English :) )
Aesthetically I prefer the SM, and think the brushed sides are much nicer.. Needless to say the Tudor has by far the best movement. The Pagani represents great value for money and has the best dimensions. Great review, and God save our late Queen RIP
Elizabeth didn't do anything other than take tax money to supplement her luxurious lifestyle while hiding cash in offshore accounts in the Cayman Islands.
@@jacktersey3688 complete ignorance. The revenue the royal family brings in far exceeds what it costs the tax payer. She was still working 12 hour days at the age of 96
Hey Jody. I was just explaining the concept of homages to a young family member and now I realize I should have just sent him the link to your video. Well done mate
UGS stands for Ultimate Grand Series on pagani design P.S. now that I received my pagani design panda and been wearing past two days I can say I really like the case and watch it self but not flimsy bracelet even though it looks cool on pictures but in person it makes them cheap, but hey I only paid 26$ on sale so no regrets as it will be gifted to my wife’s brother he is turning 21.
I could not believe the cost of the Pagani Design from the last sale. It took weeks to arrive, but my wife took it as soon as I opened it! She loves this watch. I have to admit, for the money, it’s a solid watch. The adjustment of the clasp can be dumb. But, hard to be pissed with a $100 / or less watch.
Great comparison - as always, quite impressive what both homages can pull off at their respective price points. What’s with the „I just entered a bar in an early 90s point&click adventure“ music though? 😅
St19 is not the only mechanical choni option under $500. I just picked up a Detroit Mint Mechanic for $400 that uses a valjoux 7750 clone. It has a 2 year warrantee as well.
Great video and nice to see all three together. Is it just me though, does the Tudor bracelet look mismatched? Looks like the finishing/colour is different? Looks a bit like it's come from a different watch?
I think for all those complications (that most people would never use), a date would be the most useful thing. I realise most vintage watches don't include a date window but they are homages so should. Still have the Pagani Daytona which has ticked my cheap but expensive looking tachometer watch. The vk63 seems good too. those better quality Pagani riveted bracelets and clasps are great.
At first glance my pick would be the San Martin with the ST19 movement. I know it's an old movement but for the price it can't be beat. My problem though, with the naked eye this is a beautiful movement and I want to see it. Without a display back it's a deal breaker for me.
I almost bought the SM, but the Sugess Zenith withthe ST19 caught my eye and it's a ton cheaper. Would love to see a review. As for these the SM offers a great package but the BB is so hot I would worry about someone noticing it. With the Z homage no ones ever heard of them🤣 Not non watch people anyway. A fasinating comparison, thanks J.
13:23 Pagani is not for diving 13:58 Tudor is a dive watch My experience is that any 100 meter water resistant watch is perfectly fine for diving, at least down to 20 meters, I don't go any deeper. So I see this divers extension as a plus.
Actually I have the PD-1701 Version 2. It has the same diver’s extension. The extension is just spot welded to the clasp. It is very weak and would not take much to break it. Also Pagani Design says that the PD-1701 is 100m WR. I got some seepage when doing the dishes so I don’t quite believe them. Say what you want about Invicta, but they are pretty water tight.
I own all three of these. Bought the Tudor first then the Pagani second to use during times I don't want to risk damaging the Tudor. Yes I also feel the Tudor is a little too thick. I bought the San Martin simply because I was curious if it was really 3x better than the PD. It isn't. It's definitely nice but not that nice. In my opinion the box they come in is completely irrelevant. The watch matters, not the packaging.
I'll use the analogy of holidays when purchasing this watch. Mauritius/Private jet ..Caribbean/Virgin.. Benidorm/Easyjet...guess where I went on holid6in June? OLE
When did knock off replicas start being called "Homages" very clever marketing. How do you get around an objection? Change the language, change the wording. Politicians do it all the time.
Gotta love that the tudors Chronograph hand doesn’t even line up at the 12. And why are you complaining about the dive extension? Sometimes when it’s hot or when I sleep with a watch on it’s nice being able to quickly extend the band.
I love that bloody diver's extension......😂. And correct me if I'm wrong, Jody, but I believe that Pagani may have "phoned-in" that case. I think they may have borrowed that case, from the PD-1692 line to cut costs, as it is the same dimensionally speaking, and changed the finishing, and added the holes for the chrono-pushers. To me at least, it appears to be a standard "oyster case." Also, pro-tip, U.G.S., stands for "Upgraded Grand Series". Although, I still don't know what the bloody he11, "PT Time" stands for😅. SMH....God love 'em. Thanks for the laugh, Jody, and very well done. Cheers....
While using chronograph function, when I reset it, sometimes the minute chrono hand stops at 1 min. mark instead of 0 mark. And sometimes while starting chrono, the min. chrono hand moves to 1 min. mark straightaway when chrono is started. Is this a common issue? Any suggestions for this problem or it needs Service Centre attention?
Great comparison Jody. I actually want to get one of the homages so this will help a lot. Just a wee note about the music, and I say this with love…😅…it did sound like an annoying younger relative was playing Mario whilst I was struggling to hear your video. Then it stopped when the San Martin came on, and I was delighted! But then it started again and I thought ‘Ah, Mario has just got to level 2”. Or maybe it was just a bit too loud. Either way, I prefer just to hear the smooth, Scottish tones of your lovely voice. No music needed 😊👍🏻
I remember bringing a couple of Nordsee sandwiches on to a flight a few years ago ... best airline food I had 😁 ... although my brother could have klld me ... rollmops (pickled herring with onion on a roll) and lax (salmon) with egg on a roll were not up his alley. So I feel you Mr. X.
I took delivery of the Pagani just yesterday. Nice watch, nice bracelet and I don't mind the diver's extension. Between us the wife and I have 4 early 2000 Tag Heuers and all of them have the identical design extensions. My major gripe is the bloody 24 hour sub-dial. By god I hate those bloody things. VK64 are endlessly configurable, Pagani really should have bought the one with running seconds.
Fourth Now that that's out of the way, if I bought the Tudor version I would get the black and gold version on the leather strap. It's something different from the panda dials but I would go with either color combo if I was getting one.
The quality feel (having tried the Tudor), is street's ahead of course, but then you pay for quality. The Pagani gets my vote over the SM, they've made more of an effort on looks, but the Pagani clasp as usual, just falls short. But I'd still buy one.
I didn't realize San Martin now used the seagull movements! Massive game changer for me, as I passed on their chronographs as the movement was meqaquartz.
Just got back this morning from Switzerland. My god,it’s amazing. And I got an email while I was away to say my blueberry Seiko was being shipped to me Monday. Plus came home with a mission to mars too. The missus will go garrity 😂 5 Joint 50th coming up later this year and myself and friend gave ourselves £100 for a homage on Ali express. I opted for the Batman pagani and personally want to keep it to myself (it’s amazing) Hope all’s well Keep up the great work Jody 👍🏻
I purchased the Pagani and when I gave the watch to the watch maker to adjust the bracelet several screw/rivets fell out...haha Oh! and there is debris on the dial...I'm definitely going to return it and get the San Martin. Wish me luck!
Waiting for your review of the just released Pagani V4 Speedmaster in Tiffany Blue. Just released & I ordered it on October 15th from Amazon. Should be delivered within 2 weeks 🤞. I think it's a beauty - all Tiffany blue dial with white ceramic bezel.
The San Martin looks brilliant, I have to say that I always thought the tudor looks a bit out of proportion but the San Martin is absolutely stunning.
As a man for whom a $100 watch is a major expenditure, this video is right up my alley. :-) Thanks Jodi!
Why? Would it not have been just as good if Tudor were left out of it?
@@alfieakaronaldog Absolutely it would! But it wasn't :-) I havent seen a video of the SM vs. Tudor. You ok over there bud? You frothing a bit?
Budget for some double sided tape when the bezel falls off 😉
All joking and sarcasm aside. There are better ways to spend your $100 on a watch.
Stop trying to be something you are not, and make more effort to be the guy that can buy the Tudor.
If I can get it to you, you can have my ‘as new’ white dial Pagani
This video has everything:
-Two more watches than a normal single watch review
-average sized wrists
-pocket shots
-oxymorons (plastic tin)
-jazz music
-photocopiers set at .95
-lume shots
-Champaign vs opaline
-61 extra Pagani watches
-vestigial divers extensions
-tonal mismatches
-UGS
-Fairy tale references
-and Jody's famous "Helooooo"
Thank you
The San Martin’s plain oyster bracelet being reused on many of their watches isn’t a bad thing at all IMO. It’s the cleanest and best looking bracelet design and I would prefer it over rivets any day.
The Pagani has the best proportions for my tiny wrist so I would definitely go for that one. The price is an extra bonus, and the movement!
I have the pagani version and it's amazing, love the Tudor but it's too thick.
I'd like the San Martin but not at 4xs the cost of the pagani
I'd be sorely tempted to the Tudor BB Pro, but not at 14+
Same. I could never get over the chunkiness of the black bay. I love their designs, I love the price point and everything else about Tudor, but I just can't wear that watch. Its just too odd a case shape (for me)
Great video as always Jody - thanks ! Have to say the music was a little annoying and distracting for me though 🙄
I totally agree, the music was very distracting!
But still great video!
I do agree with you guys. The background music isn't necessary at all.
Agree, the music was very distracting and completely unnecessary. Please no more!
+1, no more background music please!
Funny thing is, I use the diver extension on my PD Chrono all the time while wearing the watch at work. It is just enough to relax the watch when my wrist swells and then I lock it in after work. I use the micro adjustment for fitment through the year but on almost a regular, I am popping my extension open and close.
This video pushed me over the edge on the PD-1718, and I love it. Thanks for the nudge and the creative, comparative review.
Great review! It’s amazing how well these homages do even when sitting next to the watch they are based on. When all 3 were first shown I thought the San Martin was the Tudor until I looked closer!
4:24 The subtle spritzes of comedy on this channel are just right up my alley. I love it. "Not chapagne, not, white, not ivory, but opaline, don't you know." 😂
I just ordered the Pagani. With the snowflake hour hand and the snow white dial, it’s a nice tribute to winter. I don’t mind that its snowflake on the hour hand is almist cartoonishly large in proprtion to the hand and isl, as compared to those of the Tudor. I like the Pagani’s compression of dial elements vs the Tudor.
The cherry on top is the Pagani’s mecha quartz movement. It embodies the best of quartz and mechanical!.
Got mine for $73 from Amazon.
Thanks, Jodie for the heads up!
A great review with a classy nusic bed.
Great video Jody! Love all you do. Just wanted to share few tips on adding music to your videos:
- Having too many songs in one video can be distracting for viewers, I would pick one or two and just loop them again and again. It helps with the continuity of the video.
- Really didn’t love the first two tracks, but the two bossa nova inspired tracks and the downtempo 5th track are really nice. I would definitely recommend looping these, and people will learn to love them.
- Definitely know as a creator the excitement of including music with your videos. All of the music in my videos are my own creations so I always hope people love them. That being said, I do think you cranked up the volume a tad too high in this one. I typically go minus 30dB on the main tracks, and closer to minus 15dB on my intro and outro music. I find that a good level most people accept. Try looping the two or three best songs and then lower the volume a bit and you’ll be golden.
All in all amazing comparison! I owned this BB Chrono previously and do consider it worth the money for what it’s offering as a column wheel chronograph. Please don’t take my comment as anything more than constructive criticism from someone who also loves to include music in their videos. Keep up the great work and cheers from Hong Kong! 🍻
I personally like the diver extensions as my wrist size will change pending the weather. It’s just slight enough that an extension allows a looser fit in hotter weather without messing with links
Hey there Jody, I have to leave a bit of feedback. I watched this review on a smart TV using its own speakers and I've got to say the music was more distracting than anything else. Sometimes your words blended with the music and I couldn't hear what you were saying. Despite all that I was glad once again to get my JOMW fix.
Very nice comparison review Jody. The San Martin really impresses when it comes to lume, but I agree they dropped the ball on the bracelet.
Just lazy. Makes business sense but takes away from the watch eh?
@@JustOneMoreWatch It's not like they don't have any rivet style bracelets from other watches they could have used either. It just makes no sense 🤦♂️
@@HonestWatchReviewsHWR Keep in mind, resizing the San Martin rivet style bracelet is a real pain! 😬
I hate the rivets myself so it's a massive improvement to me.
@@AlexanderB. That's true. But at least you only have to do it once though.
Jody, I really appreciate these kind of reviews. It is nice to see how the homages get to the original. Money is a resource that should be used wisely. That being said, I love the fact that there are the San Martin’s and Pagani Design’s out there. If you are not sure a Tudor would be for you, better to try the homage first and see. Also, I just can’t see paying over $1k for a watch. I appreciate how they are made and with my experience in metalworking I know what it takes. Just too hard for me to pull the trigger. A big thank you to Mr. X, San Martin Official Store and Trendy’s so you could make this happen.
maybe just buy ONE really nice watch.. I started in Longines, and that gave me a taste of what a premium or entry level luxury watch felt like. It is very satisfying and a noticable difference from the affordable sector. Having said that, it also makes you appreciate what you can get for $500. Take a look at the Longines Conquest line.. for $1225 you get a fine timepiece with heritage and prestige. In fact on Joma they like $900 if you're willing to put up with their shenanigans and wait however long (I dont suggest it).
@@robbiecleighmarks3088 I’ve have thought about it. I have quite a few Seiko’s and the dial work and the finishing are incredible. I just wish their QC was better when it comes to dial/hands/bezel alignment. You can spend $1500 on a Seiko and have misalignment.
I agree it's financially irresponsible to pay that much but I would go for the original Tudor instead of the knockoffs
i don't disagree in the slightest, however, i wish more people held this sentiment for clones/reps. The value on some clones is incredible. People have no issue buying crappier homage watches that try desperately to look like something else barring the logo. But the minute you mention love/interest for reps, people will typically be super dismissive and shit on you. It is rather mind boggling.
@@Megatraum504 I think the main reason is when owning something like an AP or Patek it communicates that you have wealth and having a fake means you do not possess the wealth you are trying to show off / fake
UGS I believe stands for Upgraded Grand Series, i.e. a premium pagani.
One should stress how much of value proposition in the Tudor is the movement: Brietling B-01 improved with silicium hairspring + tungsten rotor... 5k Tudor vs. 8.5k for the cheapest Brietling (+ the water resistance, ceramic ball barings...)
Nice to see this comparison...always a massive fan of how much PD fit in for the price.
UGS I'm told stands Upgrade Grand Series 🙄
I'd LOVE to see more of these vids Jody. With more top pricey watches and their tiered alternative homages. I think many others would too. Love your work mate 👍☺️🇦🇺
Great comparison Jody. Not too sure about the 70s porno soundtrack though 😂. It's a real shame with that Tudor lume, they got it right with their BB58 so no reason to not get it as good on the chrono.
I picked up the same Tudor only 3 months old for $3,000 USD. I had the Pagani first and then the Tudor came up and I had the funds and pulled the trigger. Don’t regret it got a hell of a watch for a hell of a price.
GREAT video! It's really nice to see these brands and homages compared to each other, "head to head to head"! (However, you could drop the background muzak, though…) 😉
I love this kind of video, really puts things into perspective and shows exactly where money gets you more and where it doesn’t. Thank you!
Nice comparison review Jody! San Martin is killin it lately, IMHO. I actually like the look of the San Martin more than the Tudor, it seemed the most proportionate. I think my 1st San Martin will be their SN012, "original cough HELM VANUATU cough design", which again, I like more than what it's homaging. I just purchased that MIDO OCEAN STAR GMT you reviewed a while back, so it might be a minute before I get that San Martin though lol. JOMW always top notch reviews!
I just bought this San Martin. Can Anybody please drop a link for a display caseback? Ive googled and youtubed and read comments reddit etc etc... nothing tells me what size ir what part for this model. There are display case backs but which one for this model?
If you fly Economy ✈️ and bring your own sandwiches 🥪 buy the Pagani!!
By far the most important take from the video😂😂😂
That is probably my favorite watch the Tudor chronometer panda dial. I would grab the San Martin in a heartbeat because I really like their watches, love the fact that they have Seiko movements usually on the automatics, but I just can’t get around that off white dial. I wish it was white like the Tudor. I really like the San Martin bracelet. I’m happy that they did bring it over to this watch. I really like how it wears the finish and I really like the on the fly adjustment. I think it’s a top-notch bracelet on a watch of this price category.
Just got the Tudor BB Panda,I love the watch. Is it perfect? No but is anything?
More of these please! How about:
- Rolex Daytona vs. Sugess automatic chronograph vs. PD-1644.
- Omega Speedmaster vs. Phylida Speedy homage vs. PD-1701 v3.
- Omega Seamster NTTD vs. Heimdallr Sea Ghost vs. PD-1667 (and/or any of about a dozen others).
I bought the Pagani but with black dial several months ago Jody. Today I was looking at the Tudor site, looked at the the BB chrono & moved on!😱😂 What I did buy was the Tudor 1926, 39mm with yep, the OPALINE dial!😂 I have enough Pagani chrono’s!🤭👍🏻😎
Awesome comparison 👌🏻 , the music threw me off a little bit though
Love the comparison video as always Jody. Would love to see some more like this, like the Tudor FXD vs the tactical frog homage or Tudor Ranger vs San Martin homage
need your review on Seiko sub brands like Alba/Loris. they have some great under 100 USD divers which can be a good alternative for someone looking for a cheaper seiko
Went with the Pagani. Still wear the NH35 homages more often. Good review. Last San Martin I bought was a Sumo homage.
Love this style of comparison video. Very well done.
Great review, but mate I can't with the backing music. Not sure if it's just too loud or if it's just a bad match, but it didn't work this time, Jody.
Another cracking video… but what with elevator music? It gave me flashbacks of being dragged around Meadowhall Christmas shopping
I used to work in a mall in Edinburgh.....
I’d like to take a Seiko solar speedtimer movement and dial, and install them in a Tudor or Daytona inspired case. Thus providing screw down crown and pushers for the solar speedtimer.
Thinking about the San Martin Chrono in green
The diver's extension is useful for those who retain a lot of water after indulging in alcohol! 🤪
I have a few Pagani Fauxmegas and Faulexes and although totally unoriginal, they are pretty good for the price and they scratch the itch. Especially when it’s your videos that cause the itch in the first place! Keep up the great work.
You’re not alone sir, Sub, Batman, James B and lastly a Moonwatch.
All great to wear, able to do boat work without worrying that I’m going to clonk the price of a 150hp outboard on my wrist. You can’t go wrong with a Pagani.
When I got to my local AD looking for Pelagos, I saw the BB Chrono and it was in that coloration. There's no way I would choose the San Martin or Pagani instead of the Tudor. No way in hell. The watch in person is stunning and I really like the movement co shared with Breitling. This isn't me trying to be a snob, but don't just disregard the Tudor "because it's expensive". If I have to get a cheap chrono I would go the Seiko Flightmaster instead of the two homages any day.
Anyone who claims the San Martin and the Pagani are better choices over the Tudor while disregarding the Seiko Flightmaster is on heavy dosages of copium.
I think the UGS mean Upgrade Grand Series. When Pagani first released the panda they had a different caseback that stated UGS...but it was unpopular so they switched the caseback design....
I'm looking PD-1718 and PD-1644 now but i can't choose correct one. Which one is more comfortable and has better finishing and better build quality. Comfort and build ( specially bracelett ) most important for me. ( Sorry for my limited English :) )
I think the hands are slender to make de sundials more visible, it is a chrono after all. Thanks for the excellent comparison by the way. Cheers
Not sure about the background music Jody! At one point I thought I was in a lift. Great channel though, love it!!
Aesthetically I prefer the SM, and think the brushed sides are much nicer.. Needless to say the Tudor has by far the best movement. The Pagani represents great value for money and has the best dimensions. Great review, and God save our late Queen RIP
I prefer the Tudor yo!
SM dial looks ill and dirty.
Elizabeth didn't do anything other than take tax money to supplement her luxurious lifestyle while hiding cash in offshore accounts in the Cayman Islands.
@@jacktersey3688 complete ignorance. The revenue the royal family brings in far exceeds what it costs the tax payer. She was still working 12 hour days at the age of 96
Complete ignorance how much money did the queen have in an off shore account on the Cayman islands?
Thanks Jody and Mr X for this comparison review. 👍
Appreciate the review, love the idea of the 3 way matchup. Not a fan of the background music though.
Hey Jody. I was just explaining the concept of homages to a young family member and now I realize I should have just sent him the link to your video. Well done mate
Love this format of video. Seeing the original watch next to your favorite homage pick always ends up with me having less money in my account…
Hi Jody, for me, a SM without the exagerated green lume and a mecca-quartz at ca. $200 would be the pick! Regards
UGS stands for Ultimate Grand Series on pagani design
P.S. now that I received my pagani design panda and been wearing past two days I can say I really like the case and watch it self but not flimsy bracelet even though it looks cool on pictures but in person it makes them cheap, but hey I only paid 26$ on sale so no regrets as it will be gifted to my wife’s brother he is turning 21.
Thanks. So what is the point? 😂
@@JustOneMoreWatchexactly my point 😂
I could not believe the cost of the Pagani Design from the last sale. It took weeks to arrive, but my wife took it as soon as I opened it! She loves this watch. I have to admit, for the money, it’s a solid watch. The adjustment of the clasp can be dumb. But, hard to be pissed with a $100 / or less watch.
Love my BB Chrono on leather, def a big watch but great for short sleeve, casual days
Great comparison - as always, quite impressive what both homages can pull off at their respective price points.
What’s with the „I just entered a bar in an early 90s point&click adventure“ music though? 😅
"Leisure Suit Jody in the land of the bargains" So, there you have it! 🤣
@@diydad7704 hahahaha. Amazing 😂
This is crazy timing! I’ve just been looking into the San Martin vs Pagani. Cheers Jodi
Great review Jody, but I must ask ,what's with the elevator music in the background??
St19 is not the only mechanical choni option under $500. I just picked up a Detroit Mint Mechanic for $400 that uses a valjoux 7750 clone. It has a 2 year warrantee as well.
'Tachymeter' is spelled "Tachymetre" on the PD watch. Epic blunder!
Great video and nice to see all three together. Is it just me though, does the Tudor bracelet look mismatched? Looks like the finishing/colour is different? Looks a bit like it's come from a different watch?
Nice informative video Jody, thanks for your invaluable presentation. All the best for the future.
I like the San Martin bracelet!!! Quality and Finish is stunning. Awesome video. Cheers.
I think for all those complications (that most people would never use), a date would be the most useful thing. I realise most vintage watches don't include a date window but they are homages so should. Still have the Pagani Daytona which has ticked my cheap but expensive looking tachometer watch. The vk63 seems good too. those better quality Pagani riveted bracelets and clasps are great.
Hi Jody, which watch do you wear in the intro, please ? Super video ;)
At first glance my pick would be the San Martin with the ST19 movement. I know it's an old movement but for the price it can't be beat. My problem though, with the naked eye this is a beautiful movement and I want to see it. Without a display back it's a deal breaker for me.
Hellooooo! I love the new music - can I get a direction for who is playing :)
I love how the censor bleep does nothing but provide a highlight to the expletive.
[A nod to the IT Crowd (calamity Jen)?]
I almost bought the SM, but the Sugess Zenith withthe ST19 caught my eye and it's a ton cheaper. Would love to see a review. As for these the SM offers a great package but the BB is so hot I would worry about someone noticing it. With the Z homage no ones ever heard of them🤣 Not non watch people anyway. A fasinating comparison, thanks J.
I bought the seagull panda a few months ago from Ali express. I agree, they do a great job and I grab it quite often.
San Martin is the best value. This is coming from someone with several Tudors!!
Bought the Pagani when first released, is one of my favourite watches. I'm fine with it being meca-quartz.
13:23 Pagani is not for diving
13:58 Tudor is a dive watch
My experience is that any 100 meter water resistant watch is perfectly fine for diving, at least down to 20 meters, I don't go any deeper.
So I see this divers extension as a plus.
Actually I have the PD-1701 Version 2. It has the same diver’s extension. The extension is just spot welded to the clasp. It is very weak and would not take much to break it. Also Pagani Design says that the PD-1701 is 100m WR. I got some seepage when doing the dishes so I don’t quite believe them. Say what you want about Invicta, but they are pretty water tight.
@@acftmxman Yes I have not worn any Pagani so far, I did dives with 100 m rated Casio, Mondaine and CWC, neither of them leaked.
May be the people at tudor love soccer and wish to chronometer the time elapse since start of each half time
Very interesting comparison. Nice to be able to get hands on with that Tudor.
I own all three of these. Bought the Tudor first then the Pagani second to use during times I don't want to risk damaging the Tudor. Yes I also feel the Tudor is a little too thick. I bought the San Martin simply because I was curious if it was really 3x better than the PD. It isn't. It's definitely nice but not that nice. In my opinion the box they come in is completely irrelevant. The watch matters, not the packaging.
The beautifully high polished sides of the Tudor scratch like nobody's business. My 8mth old BB41 looks like I use a cement mixer as a watch winder
I'll use the analogy of holidays when purchasing this watch. Mauritius/Private jet ..Caribbean/Virgin.. Benidorm/Easyjet...guess where I went on holid6in June? OLE
That’s exactly the comparison I was interested to watch! Thanks❤️
When did knock off replicas start being called "Homages" very clever marketing.
How do you get around an objection? Change the language, change the wording.
Politicians do it all the time.
Gotta love that the tudors Chronograph hand doesn’t even line up at the 12. And why are you complaining about the dive extension? Sometimes when it’s hot or when I sleep with a watch on it’s nice being able to quickly extend the band.
I love that bloody diver's extension......😂. And correct me if I'm wrong, Jody, but I believe that Pagani may have "phoned-in" that case. I think they may have borrowed that case, from the PD-1692 line to cut costs, as it is the same dimensionally speaking, and changed the finishing, and added the holes for the chrono-pushers. To me at least, it appears to be a standard "oyster case." Also, pro-tip, U.G.S., stands for "Upgraded Grand Series". Although, I still don't know what the bloody he11, "PT Time" stands for😅. SMH....God love 'em. Thanks for the laugh, Jody, and very well done. Cheers....
While using chronograph function, when I reset it, sometimes the minute chrono hand stops at 1 min. mark instead of 0 mark. And sometimes while starting chrono, the min. chrono hand moves to 1 min. mark straightaway when chrono is started.
Is this a common issue? Any suggestions for this problem or it needs Service Centre attention?
The 70’s background music was for me right ! So on brand ☺️☺️☺️🦄🦄🦄
Great comparison Jody. I actually want to get one of the homages so this will help a lot. Just a wee note about the music, and I say this with love…😅…it did sound like an annoying younger relative was playing Mario whilst I was struggling to hear your video. Then it stopped when the San Martin came on, and I was delighted! But then it started again and I thought ‘Ah, Mario has just got to level 2”. Or maybe it was just a bit too loud. Either way, I prefer just to hear the smooth, Scottish tones of your lovely voice. No music needed 😊👍🏻
I remember bringing a couple of Nordsee sandwiches on to a flight a few years ago ... best airline food I had 😁
... although my brother could have klld me ... rollmops (pickled herring with onion on a roll) and lax (salmon) with egg on a roll were not up his alley. So I feel you Mr. X.
I took delivery of the Pagani just yesterday. Nice watch, nice bracelet and I don't mind the diver's extension. Between us the wife and I have 4 early 2000 Tag Heuers and all of them have the identical design extensions. My major gripe is the bloody 24 hour sub-dial. By god I hate those bloody things. VK64 are endlessly configurable, Pagani really should have bought the one with running seconds.
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Now that that's out of the way, if I bought the Tudor version I would get the black and gold version on the leather strap. It's something different from the panda dials but I would go with either color combo if I was getting one.
Did you make this in a lift? Background music is really distracting!
I don’t know how San Martin do that for the price
Great video Jody 👍
The quality feel (having tried the Tudor), is street's ahead of course, but then you pay for quality. The Pagani gets my vote over the SM, they've made more of an effort on looks, but the Pagani clasp as usual, just falls short. But I'd still buy one.
isnt the pagani's dial whitish , compared to tudor and san martin pandas ?
I didn't realize San Martin now used the seagull movements! Massive game changer for me, as I passed on their chronographs as the movement was meqaquartz.
Just got back this morning from Switzerland.
My god,it’s amazing.
And I got an email while I was away to say my blueberry Seiko was being shipped to me Monday.
Plus came home with a mission to mars too.
The missus will go garrity 😂
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Joint 50th coming up later this year and myself and friend gave ourselves £100 for a homage on Ali express.
I opted for the Batman pagani and personally want to keep it to myself (it’s amazing)
Hope all’s well
Keep up the great work Jody 👍🏻
LOL! This is the first time I'm hearing elevator music in the background. Great video Jody Cheers mate 🍻
I purchased the Pagani and when I gave the watch to the watch maker to adjust the bracelet several screw/rivets fell out...haha Oh! and there is debris on the dial...I'm definitely going to return it and get the San Martin. Wish me luck!
Waiting for your review of the just released Pagani V4 Speedmaster in Tiffany Blue.
Just released & I ordered it on October 15th from Amazon.
Should be delivered within 2 weeks 🤞.
I think it's a beauty - all Tiffany blue dial with white ceramic bezel.
Jody, greetings from Brazil !!! UGS stands for Upgraded Grand Series... Best regards!
Great review as usual
Music is distracting though
Cheers from the UK
I don't know if I've just not noticed it before but I found the background music really jarring throughout this video.
It's new. I'll turn it down a bit next time 😉