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Luke in the original trilogy:My father has killed billions of innocent people, but I know that I can save him because there’s still good in him. Luke in the sequels: well my nephew had a dream about the dark side so let’s turn him into sachimi.
Darth vader: literally kills dozens of bad people, innocent people, younglings and his comrades Luke: "there's still good in him" Kylo: has a bad dream Luke: "so you must die"
@behind you the entire point of the films is that all sides are retards the redemption is just a side thing, because there the universe works on binary karma - actions don't "stack"
@behind you Because he overthrew an evil force in the galaxy, saving millions if not billions in the years to come. If you don't believe in redemption you should judge yourself for eternity for all the sins you have committed in your life. That cookie you stole? There was a time when they chop your hand for that.
Hearing your scene where Luke talks to force Obi-Wan and hears the mistake he made with Anakin is so beautiful. You literally brought tears to my eyes. The ending shot too of your trilogy is perfection. This is my trilogy
@@deriznohappehquite I mean cinema is just our more modern day version of stage plays, basically. So it makes sense. Though usually the Shakespeare essays are praising his work, not tearing it apart limb from limb.
I cried during certain parts of his story (which at best is just a pitch). Most notably when Obi wan was recalling the events of the prequels and Luke realizing that he has become the very thing he swore to destroy. An edit I would do is instead of having Rey turn back to the light side when she realizes who she's becoming, she instead tries to deny it and embrace her mothers teachings. Even after she knows what she's doing is wrong, the fact that her mother acts like she genuinely cares about her when no one else has. And that makes her want to what ever they want she can just because you want to please them because they were the only one who cared.
Can't believe I only just found this. I was more invested in this story as you told it than I was in all three fully made, fully filmed sequels. I am a die hard Star Wars fan but my faith and love for the franchise is at an all time low, however this on one random Saturday night has allowed me to cheer and be invested in the world I truly love once again. This is outstanding and I thank you so so much for it, I know I'm three years late but still. I'm booting up the old google docs in the morning and will go back to my star wars AUs. I hope someone high up from Disney has seen this and will read the comment to see truly how amazing this is.
Same... I didn't realize this video had an alternate plot from the title. Sure, maybe the details aren't perfect (how could we expect that from one guy) but the overarching theme is just so good... clearly different from the previous entries but with so many callbacks, world building, etc. Amazing that one good writer could come up with something this good but all of Lucasfilm created what we got.
If a Disney exec were to see this, the one thing I would absolutely love and go crazy for is a clone wars style animation of an alternative timeline/alternate universe or what if sequel trilogy following this story. However the excuse goes, maybe connecting bits from legends. The point being I would love to see this regardless and i think animated would make the most sense.
Dude someone give this guy a billion dollar budget so he can realize his vision. "A better story" is 100 x better than what we had to endure with Disney.
Sad part is, it wouldn't matter if we did. Star Wars is owned by disney and while yes they are greedy mfers, they are also unapologetic control freaks. Even if he bought the licensing rights to produce something they'd tear it apart and stitch it back together so gruesomely nobody would recognize it. For all some of my friends talk about 'the importance of copyright cause otherwise anybody could just sell horrible shit with your name on it and you could do nothing about it'... there's only one company allowed to make star wars now and they are making horrible shit with its name on it and nobody can do anything about it.
Tbh I feel like I'm the only one in this comment section that didn't really like his version. Some parts were great, like Obi wan telling Luke of how anakin turned evil and the flashback to jedi Count dooku, but overall I thought it was just too predictable and lacked the plot events needed to be as dramatic as he wanted it to be. Don't get me wrong I absolutely agree that the sequels need character arcs, but it just seemed to me like he could have handled them better. Rey switched from good to bad way too many times, just to ultimately turn good in the end, and there really isn't any sacrifice that pushes her to change-- to me it kind of felt like he just really wanted to give her a character arc but didn't really spend a long time thinking about creative ways for her to be motivated to change. Things like Rey being the daughter of a sith lord is also very predictable and something we've already seen in the franchise. I wasn't a fan of the jedi and sith teaming up against the yuuzhan vong, either. I think it's too late in the franchise to introduce a force so powerful that the whole star wars dynamic changes completely-- something like that would have to be foreshadowed or introduced way before, otherwise it just seems like he pulled them out of a legends book just to give the jedi and sith and excuse to team up. I don't really find the idea of the jedi and sith teaming up to be that exciting either. It would make an interesting twist for them to temporarily fight alongside each other as the climax of a movie, but I don't like the idea of them teaming up for the entire trilogy. Otherwise, it's obvious that his story was rooted in passion and understanding for star wars that the sequels didn't have. His version has potential to tell an amazing story if he just fleshed it out more and didn't make it as predictable
@spooky katt I’m not sure what bad sequels and reboots have to do with the fall of Western Civilization other than that we keep electing increasingly-delusional celebrities into office for some reason (i.e. Ronald Reagan from Bedtime for Bonzo, Donald Trump from that one scene in Home Alone 2, and lest we forget Kanye West’s quixotic attempt at qualifying for this current election during one of his manic phases...), but I do agree that Hollywood is basically one big high school clique that was basically impossible to join in if you don’t have last names like Stallone or Banks or Disney, even when the economy was doing well...
Jeffrey Thrash if you were to dive deep into the events that mainstream television does NOT report on, then you’d find that those “celebrities” (trumps a business man far more than he is a celebrity) are far more fit at running for president then the ones that look the part. You can either have criminals and traitors who do all sorts of messed up stuff and whose corruption knows no limits orrr you can choose the political outsiders who don’t know how to conduct themselves presidentially yet are very successful at running a country, even if you never hear about it in television.
@@ZEPR0FESS0RR Thanks for the giggles. Do you honestly expect me to do a complete 180 with my opinion this close to a major election by using the same meaningless Fox News talking points from 2016? Speaking of Fox News, it’s the most popular TV news network on cable and now owned by Disney after the Fox merger, similar to Star Wars here, meaning Fox News is the very definition of “mainstream television.” Nice try pretending to be a free-thinker, again, it would have actually fooled me prior to the 2016 election. Finally, thank you for answering my question as to why people keep voting increasingly delusional and out-of-touch celebrities into extremely important government positions. It sounds like the people that think millionaires and billionaires who didn’t even really have to work for their money would even be capable of sympathy for less-fortunate Americans are pretty delusional and out-of-touch themselves. Good day.
well said. great story arc. It is very sad that the Sequel died trough the egos of two directors and the lack of a good story arc for the triology by disney
The pure sadness on Mark Hamill's face makes me VICIOUSLY furious He's a man you can tell really cared about his character, the series and the fans. He was a poor man being given orders by people who clearly didn't give a shit.
The worst part is that every interview mark has had about the sequel trilogy is like that. You can see the pain every time, and you can practically feel him holding his tongue when it comes to the shit that upset him. Like how he is straight up complaining how they arent aiming for the fans, and everyone starts clapping like its a good thing and he just gives up. Like no one was even listening to him in that room.
I feel so bad for Mark Hamill as he was trying to do the best for the fans and he know there was issues with it and was powerless to stop it. Hearing you rewrite the story just makes me even more sad as it makes me realize how bad the movies really were. they could have been so good and here we are
Powerless? He made Luke who he is and there's no one else on Earth who could play that role. He had all the power to stop it, he could have stopped production by quitting halfway through and forced a rewrite.
@@matthewhelm7069 Harrison Ford not only took a massive dump on his Han Solo character, he will ruin Indiana Jones even more in the upcoming feminazi Indy flick. He "carried" nothing in those Disney abominations of Star Wars. He's a grumpy old fart.
Vader: *killed millions ruthlessly, killed his own mentor in front of him, cuts your hand, actively hunts you and your friends down, LITERALLY destroyed an entire planet etc...* Luke: There is still good in him Ben: *has bad dream* Luke: THE DEVIL HIMSELF *Ignites lightsaber*
@@thatoneroyalguard7060 If he HADN'T ignited the lightsaber, but just reached for it when he sensed the darkness and Kylo wakes up to see Luke with his hand on his saber staring at him in fear it could work. But igniting the lightsaber and preparing to strike? Ridiculous
Luke: believes in the good in literally Lord Vader until the very end. Also Luke: considering murdering a Kid who had some attitude in cold blood in his sleep.
I saw someone literally trying to defend Luke attempting to kill Kylo in his sleep by saying, "Well it's different, and it's not HIS story, it's Rei's story." Like, seriously? Who cares if it's Rie's story, Luke should still act like Luke. Then again, he also was moved to tears at Leia floating herself back onboard the ship from deep space.
Accurate. Definitely accurate. I actually like Force Awakens as a fun movie, but... it is too safe. That is certainly true. I don't really like The Last Jedi; it's a bold and original but failed attempt. So yeah, too bold. I don't like The Rise of Skywalker at all. It's a shallow, safe, pandering, focus-grouped, and ultimately inconsequential failed attempt-yup, too desperate to win fans over. This might be an unpopular opinion, but I like The Last Jedi far more than The Rise of Skywalker. A bold and original but failed attempt is much more interesting than a shallow, safe, pandering, focus-grouped, and ultimately inconsequential failed attempt. They both suck, but I would willingly rewatch The Last Jedi any day over The Rise of Skywalker. At least none of them are as bad as the snore-fest that is Attack of the Clones. Edit: it looks like people don’t understand that this is my opinion and there’s really nothing that will change my mind here. Especially nothing about Attack of the Clones; you could not pay me money to sit through it again.
@@lonebattledroid4474 Nice. If you like it good for you. I just cannot find anything to be enjoyed in it. I can for Phantom Menace and Revenge of the Sith, both of which in my opinion are much better than TLJ, Solo, and TROS. And even Rogue One to an extent (which is massively overrated in my opinion) You could not pay me money to sit through Attack of the Clones again. Sorry if that offends prequel fans. I’m a massive fan of the Clone Wars show though!
@@andrewheaney4874 no problem. You're way more respectful than how other fans use to act when I told them I liked the prequels. The one good thing about the Sequel trilogy was because they were so universally hated other fans went back and sorta in a sense forgave the Prequels and now PT and OT fans live in harmony.
The "reveal" that Ray's mother is Darth Kahn gave me more chills than any moment in the 3rd trilogy and you're just reading a script... Incredible writing
I think the person who suffered the most from all of this is Mark Hamill. That man helped build this shit and then watched as some dumb "kids" ran his character into the ground.
Oh no! Luke didn't do what you wanted or act the way you wanted him to? After how many years? Holy shit! It's almost like he's supposed to be a human being! Weird! Jesus Christ grow the hell up.
I cried when you re-wrote the story. Not only because I realised the true lost potential of cinema enjoyment and storytelling but also because the story was just so good that just hearing a random man on the internet reading it to me made me cry of being so invested in the story.
Same here. I'm so interested in the story he has crafted in a month than any of the three movies ever made me. Not even Hans death moved me to tears, I was just angry. His story made me super emotional!!!☺️💖🌸🌷🌺 I was so invested, so interested, so happy, and so sorrowful at the same time.🥺💖 I really wish this was the sequel trilogies not what we got sadly. So much wasted potential.
@@PinkPanther45518 same here. This is much more Star Wars, and much more of a continuation to this part of the story than Disney could ever do. It felt very much a continuation of Lucas' vision, with a deep understanding of the original fan base
okay I never wanna see Mark Hammil look that sad ever again, holy shit, I feel it, like he betrayed his own fans when he couldn't even do anything about it T_T
yeah i feel the same way. It reminds me of Lucas' face when he signed star wars over to Disney. they both look so disappointed, ashamed and completely aware compared to Disney/Rian Johnson.
@@chav3136 Well Lucas could have ya know, said no, you’re not having my creation. He’s no right to look disappointed or ashamed whilst he was willingly signing it over to them.
@@Stupiddumbmanditoryhandle yeah true. I just think he looks really regretful that's all but youre right. Disney might have given him loads of promises that sounded good at the time and he said yes but regretted later. Idk 🤷♀️
He didn't betray his own fans--we asked (demanded) that he play in this new trilogy, assuming the trilogy would be good...and then Hamill got his script for The Last Jedi and was now obligated to comply. You can tell he had many pleas with Johnson to consider the fans, and Johnson--being an arrogant dick--refused to listen. That's why I love Mark Hamill and freakin' hate Johnson.
Your sequel trilogy pitch made me cry a couple times. It was honestly beautiful. Your trilogy idea will be my headcanon for the post OG SW movies from now on.
The moment Mark the guy who played Luke Skywalker one of the most iconic characters in the history of cinema, voiced a single complaint about Episode 8 I gave up on Star Wars, Disney ruined it.
Fr idk if it’s cuz it’s 4 am for me but I almost cried cuz of how much better it was and I realized that mark wouldnt act that story out and instead it would just be the joke it is now
And what sucks is that so many people think "pleasing the fans" means being predictable and unoriginal. I honestly wonder what that crowd would think if they knew their beloved character was emotionally ruined off screen. Story matters but we didn't see it.
I first thought when Hamill's hands trembled he was just exaggerating, but it is definitely real. Imagine being Mark Hamill and having to stomach JJ Abrams's and Rian Johnson's god awful direction because you don't want to ruin the production you know everyone else is working so hard for. The whole experience with the embarrassing sequel trilogy will probably scare him away from doing anything in a movie again.
The people running the franchise have no idea what Star Wars is all about. They think that “having the Force” is a thing. Rey floats in the air AND twirls a bunch of rocks around her. In NONE of the other movies did we see any of the characters do that. In fact none of the characters did ANYTHING like that because that is not what the Force is. They only saw the little “magic tricks” and thought that was the Force. We only saw young Anakin play with the force-he was with Padme on Naboo. He floated the fruit. None of the other Jedi did anything like that because Jedi don’t do that. They somehow think that hyperspace is instantaneous. When Luke and Obi Wan went to Alderan with Han Solo, that trip took many hours. We saw Luke learning about the force. Now they can “light speed skip” or whatever that means. Or Finn and Rose can leave the chase and go to the gambling planet and then get back to the chase? In space time and distance is vast, not like going to the corner store. The people running Star Wars don’t know what they are doing.
@@theloanranger2632 Hamill's a better man than me. No way would I have been able to do press day in, day out surrounded by those Kool-aid guzzling clowns.
100% YES to your entire synopsis on Finn. I've been saying almost exactly that for years. Expanding a fantasy universe is not easy, that's for sure. A "deprogrammed" stormtrooper was a PERFECT example of how to show fans something new without breaking any of the rules of the universe.
This was the thing my cousin and I were most excited about. A defected Stormtrooper idea is brilliant. I loved Finn but they gave him nothing to do besides have him chase after Rey for 3 movies. Which I don't understand either. Rey should have been a mix of her, Poe, and Rose, because there are way too many main characters, Jesus christ.
@@GacMan47 I was excited of Finn's character too. I got hyped about his character. He could've led an uprising of stormtroopers against the empire. THAT WOULD'VE BEEN SO COOL. His character was so unique. They wasted his character when potentially, he could've been the best one in the entire sequel trilogy.
Unbelievable video! I don’t think I’ve ever watched a nearly 2 hour long TH-cam video. Well done! The only thing I would change is adding in something about how the Jedi are also flawed in their no love, no attachments mentality. It’s always bothered me, even as a kid 25+ years ago, that they didn’t allow love and affection as part of their teachings. So if Luke or Rey, or Kylo can find their way to the gray side that allows for feelings but uses them constructively as opposed to using them for evil like the dark side, I think that would be even better.
This is the most well-known of the Jedi rules. Love leads to attachment and attachment leads to strong emotions, which are the path to the Dark Side of the Force. Because of this, Jedi are forbidden to fall in love.
THIS!!! I read in an amazing fanfic once that falling in love wasn't prohibited, BUT the pain of losing that love is what was dangerous, of course it was a headcanon.
I feel like that specific flaw of the Jedi was aptly portrayed in the downfall of Anakin, wasn't it? The prequels display the consequences of following that rule, and we see Luke in the original trilogy reject those teachings completely. Feel like the prequels were very purposeful in that messaging, no?
@@Thethingummything That's a valid observation and that very well could be what they were going for, but I didn't feel like they really portrayed understanding of that being the cause of Anakin's demise. And, in my opinion, Luke does not reject those teachings, or the story doesn't make that clear. It seems more like the story focuses on his intent to find the good in Anakin, not because of any feeling of love or loyalty, but because he thinks that's the best way to beat the empire.
If Disney made the Lord of the Rings the same way they made the Star Wars Sequels: The Fellowship of the Ring: Here’s why the ring matters. The Two Towers: Here’s why the ring doesn’t matter at all. The Return of the King: Oh no it’s Smaug! Remember SMAUG?!
I can't be happier that Tolkien wrote appendices, which goes 250 years into period after Return of the King, so no one can destroy Lotr same way they destroyed Star Wars.
It is true. No one had any idea of the state of the galaxy. Where did the First Order come from? What was the New Republic? How did Palpatine build all those ships? Some of it may be explained in books but hardly anyone reads those.
@@Avalon_1991 Maybe an unpopular opinion but I would have preferred a movie similar to phantom menace, specifically establishing who and where and what the new republic was, their strength, that sort of stuff
Somehow… Palpatine returned. Somehow… Rey can defeat literally anyone, despite only discovering the Force literally three days earlier. Somehow… Rey repaired Luke’s lightsaber, even though it had been torn in half and then completely blown up as the Supremacy was destroyed. Somehow… The Force Heal ability was never used by any Jedi, not even Anakin to save Padme or Obi-Wan to save Qui Gon, before Rey used it to save an enemy that had killed his own father before her eyes. Somehow… The Death Star wreckage is on a random ocean planet, mostly intact and left untouched by scavengers, even though it should’ve crashed on Endor and should’ve been completely destroyed by the explosion. Somehow... Hyperspace is a weapon of mass destruction, which had never been used as a weapon until Holdo came up with it, even literal eons after it’s creation. Somehow… No one has crashed into something, literally anything, whilst flying in Hyperspace before Holdo did. Somehow… Force Ghosts can interact with the physical world, yet they have never once tried to help the Jedi in battle. Somehow… People were paid to write this trilogy.
@@murphygoat-k4n Oh, so you want me to start listing off the facts? Well, okay, then: The Star Wars prequels definitely had problems, mainly in the fact that George Lucas was mainly thinking about the child audience when he was making the trilogy. This led to the creation of Jar Jar, who mainly just came off as annoying and unnecessary rather than comic relief. There is also the fact that the dialogue in the trilogy is more dramatic and ‘poetic’ than the Original Trilogy, which led to some important lines coming off as comedic rather than being dramatic or romantic. That being said, the story of the Prequels is amazing. The worldbuilding is made in breathtaking detail and provides amazing context for the entire franchise. The plot tells the tragic story of how Anakin became Darth Vader in amazing storytelling and allows you to understand Anakin’s turn to the dark side completely. Meanwhile, the Sequels can BARELY be called a trilogy or a story at all. Each of the movies were made by different directors who both had different plans for how the trilogy would end. Every time they made a movie, they did not even build their story from the plan that the previous film set up and instead made up their own plan as they went, which ended up causing the themes of each movie completely contradict each other. For example, The Force Awakens was basically just a remake of A New Hope, with a fancier Death Star. All it did was basically try to build a new story that tried to appeal to the Original Trilogy, however, instead of trying to build A New Story off of the Original Trilogy, they basically just tried to copy everything from more iconic films to try and look appealing, instead of coming up something new and original. However, The Last Jedi has the exact opposite problem. It tries to make a story that was new and original, but instead of building the story off of the legacy of the Original Trilogy’s characters and accomplishments, they essentially try to make every single one of our favorite past characters look as pathetic as possible so that they can new characters look better. Luke’s entire character was completely ruined by this movie, because he turned into the exact opposite of who he was. He went from a brave, determined Jedi to a cowardly, pathetic hermit who wouldn’t even leave the planet he was on to save his own sister and the Rebellion. These are just a few of the countless problems that the Sequels stupidly created. Let’s get into the characters shall we? First off, Rey is a terrible protagonist. From the very first part of the trilogy, she has NO character development. Absolutely NONE. Her abilities in the Force are not attained through hard work and determination, but are just GIVEN to her by the writers for no other reason than to make her overpowered. And it’s not just the Force they made her overpowered with. They made her win EVERY SINGLE LIGHTSABER DUEL SHE’S EVER HAD. The first time, literally the FIRST TIME, she ACTIVATED a lightsaber, she went up against a guy who had been trying with the Force and his lightsaber his ENTIRE LIFE, despite having NO training with any blade-like weapon of any kind. And she WINS. The first time that both Luke and Anakin fought in a lightsaber duel, even though they had trained their asses off, they got their asses handed to them. Because of course they did. Both the opponents they were facing were significantly more experienced and powerful than they were. The point of that was that both of them eventually overcame their struggles and grew more skilled as time progressed. But Rey didn’t overcome any struggles, because she was never defeated. She was already made the most powerful character by the begining of the trilogy through nothing else but 10 inches thick plot armor. There are countless other problems in the Sequels. So many that I can’t even get into the full number of them without turning this reply into an entire book. The Prequels definetly weren’t perfect, but they were definetly better than a dumb story that MAKES NO SENSE and ruins every single one of our favorite past characters. The fact that you are actually trying to say that the Prequels were WORSE than this garbage makes me wonder if you’ve actually watched Star Wars at all.
Dude. Your story was amazing. It had me absolutely captivated. Far more than any of the new trilogy. You fixed every issue I had with them and it was an all around great story with a much better ending.
You can't tell me the kid who saw good in the most evil man in the galaxy saw his nephew have a few dodgy nightmares and thought "Oh I've gotta kill this one". Rian had absolutely no idea who Luke was and what he stood for.
@@cerebrophage7709 From what? Nothing bad happened BEFORE he tried to kill his nephew... sure hiding away after the incident and the temple being burnt down makes some sense.
@@1001History the kind of confrontation and what he had to do with his father and what vader did and how vader did it, and what luke had to do to his father might be a bit traumatizing. Being someone who struggles with PTSD myself, this makes complete sense to me: nearly abandoning ones convictions to protect yourself and others. Not only this, he realized in that moment he was about to repeat the same path his father took. Edit: further, PTSD blocks out your memories and leaves only the intense feelings there and specific stimuli that trigger those memories as a warning system. The summary you give in your post is a summary of what Luke confessed summary. We don't have the full story, just Luke's and Ben's brief recounting of events. No context, nothing. Just a sixty second retelling.
Damn man, parts of your sequel story gave me chills and made me feel more than the actual sequels. When Obi-Wan asks Luke if he ever told him how his father became Vader, wow, what a missed opportunity not having moments like this in the actual films.
Multiple scenes in your re-write had me tearing up in the middle of work. Your spoken-word head-canon had more emotional impact on me than any scene in the entire sequel trilogy. Hopefully one day we can just get a AI render-farm to generate it and have a proper denouement to Luke's story.
AI? You're disgusting. More disgusting now than Abrams and Johnson could ever be. You don't care about art or work or even gratitude. You only care about consuming good content, regardless of effort or human soul. Do fucking better.
AI?... You're disgusting. More disgusting now than Rian and Abrams could ever be. You don't care about creating a good story or even the effort put into a good story. You only care about consuming a good story. Do better. And I know either you or YT hid my last comment, but I will not be discouraged.
Agreed! The man was a general and then he goes back to same old smuggling as he did before, just more bumbling about it. The only credit that I do give is that I did feel that he cared for Leia and Kylo even if he felt he couldn't do much about their separation. Otherwise, I agree...
Yes. I retrospect it just feels like Han in Force Awakens is Empire Strikes Back Han instead of naturally evolving from the character who just wanted to make Leia in Return of the Jedi happy and the one who cares very much about his friends.
Han really did get regressed to a former state of his fucking character DEVELOPMENT just for what? Probably just the same as everything else, to force back in the exact same status quo as as the original trilogies.... again, but worse.
thats because Jar Jar Abrams is completely and utterly useless at making decent original plots. Its why TFA felt like the bargain bin version of ANH. JJA: "I dont know how to go on from all of Hans character development so I'll just turn him back into the selfish smuggler he was at the start of ANH...and come to think of it I'll just copy ANH in its entirety. Nobody will be smart enough to notice it, surely"
There would've been lots of options between a settled family man and an active genral, and a total smuggler reset. For example: a grizzled detective type Han constantly searching for his lost best friend Luke and using his contacts throughout the galaxy. Why not start the movie with Han finding the map instead of Poe? Or them being a buddy cop team, with Poe naturally being a Han Solo fanboy (but constantly overshadowing his hero whose age is starting to catch up). It could've been an actually entertaining pairing and Han's motivations would make sense and be true to his character. And if you want a throwback, you got it too as it alludes to Han searching for Luke in the beginning of ESB. Plus Han's introduction wouldn't be as contrived and random as it is in the movie now. Is he seriously more invested in hunting down the Falcon than finding Luke or trying to get to his own son? Han already had his moment of growth when he GAVE UP the Falcon, BACK TO LANDO for him to fly in the battle of Endor. It's just a ship that didn't mean anything for him anymore as long as he had Leia by his side and fought for what he knew was right. Granted, ROTJ Han is more mellow and "boring" due to his character growing out of his selfish and cocky traits and the script focusing on Luke and Vader, but TFA Han could've been something totally new, but believeable.
Absolutely phenomenal video, almost skipped it after TH-cam auto played it for me, but I’m glad I didn’t. You have such a captivating method of story telling and I look forward to binging some of your uploads later tonight. Can’t wait for the “What If…” centered around my newest head canon.
@@YourPalAlRetroGamer Clone Wars and The Mandalorian didn't help ruin Star Wars, why would he include them? The Last Jedi single handedly altered lore to tell a different story, and the entire Sequel Trilogy makes everything previous characters have accomplished all for nothing. The sequel trilogy literally killed the franchise. They aren't even making new toys anymore, they stopped production. GL milked that shit for decades, yet Disney ruined it in under one.
@@subsume7904 They are still making Star Wars toys, just significantly less sequel trilogy toys since they are not selling nearly as well as OT, PT, or Mando stuff.
@@thepowerofthegodhand7003 you're not wrong! When The Force Awakens first came out I thought it was mediocre, but that it would just get better from there. But. It didn't.... Rey just DID NOT feel believable. She didn't even show signs, in my opinion, that she was a supposedly powerful force user. Choreography was garbage, even if Kylo was the only one that knew how to fight.
The craziest thing is, Finn was hinted to also have Jedi powers in the first film. I know that it would had been a stretch, but giving him some time to be allowed to take a Jedi weapon (he might have found) and just start using it throughout the films, and have it pay off later would be nice. We also do need Po, Finn, Rei, and Kylo to actually join up here or there in some episodes. Like have some moments with Po and Finn, but then later have Finn accompany Rei on missions, while Kylo and Po dog fight some enemies in space together. Then later have Finn and Kylo discuss their thoughts on the Order and if they have doubts while Po sees what is happening to Rei and tries to talk to her about it (which can be one of the many driving forces to have her look herself over in the mirror). This dynamic would help foster in some fun moments. Basically a majority of the cast would be in the villains shoes most of the time, which isn't common in Star Wars.
I've seen several plot pitches like this online from several different creators. It makes me wonder how in the HELL Disney dropped the ball on this with their nearly unlimited access to talent and resources. What a shit show.
What an absolutely AMAZING video! I loved every single minute of it. The insights into the sequels and actually explaining their flaws and giving solutions to their problems was really interesting, and I loved the alternative sequel trilogy you narrated. All of this told in a very curated way! Congratulations on this amazing job!
@Fuck Google clone troopers fly in clone wars . And jet troopers(stormtroopers) fly in rebels . And yet the main characters of sequels dont know any thing about flying of troopers.
@@Eshtian That makes a lot of sense. It’s pretty obvious this whole movie was made solely because of marketing like the red stormtroopers. I’m pretty sure those were in the movie so target can promote the movie, I think they even have exclusive Sith trooper toys. They were still concerned about people being upset about the last jedi as solo barely performed in the box office.
Rebooting Han back to the scoundrel we know him as actually undoes the character development across the original trilogy. Seeing him grow from a criminal that only wants money to an Alliance General is what made the character so compelling.
@@falshion1837 Think how much scoundrel tricks he could use as an Alliance General. He could be the disliked one, the "honourless", yet effective... Imagine Han Solo devising the "ramming" plan, and telling everyone on the room "but i will not be piloting"... (while Akbar step up).
Agreed. I differ with Closer Look that they did Han any favors and semi well. Disney and JJ went out of their way to destroy the Han we knew and loved. Dead beat dad, slipped back to being a low level smuggler (and incompetent one at that), lost the Falcon somehow, etc. All of which happened without explanation. It's clear Disney and JJ were desperate to spike the OT characters to push their inferior ones instead of having a natural progression, mentorship, and hand off. Oh who am I kidding? At this point we all know Disney did not have an outline or over arching plan for the sequel trilogy
I Icried during certain parts of his story (which at best is just a pitch). Most notably when Obi wan was recalling the events of the prequels and Luke realizing that he has become the very thing he swore to destroy. An edit I would do is instead of having Rey turn back to the light side when she realizes who she's becoming, she instead tries to deny it and embrace her mothers teachings. Even after she knows what she's doing is wrong, the fact that her mother acts like she genuinely cares about her when no one else has. And that makes her want to what ever they want she can just because you want to please them because they were the only one who cared. And Kylo has to try and make her see that she should follow her own path instead of staying with her evil mother. The only comparison I can make is Zuko and Iroh but this is obviously way different.
@@underplayer420 this is an very interesting second end where you could actually do a 4th movie wich would start with the explaining that the republic won the war and that kylo knows that rey and her mother were still out there. It would still be during the reparatiobs from the war and while the republic is spilt up and in multiple systems the the remesis of the first order would attak al the students from kylo would need to help him defend the new jedi temple to stop rey get something very important that luke didnt feel because it has only the dark force inside of it. Reys mother feel it from all over the galaxy and sent rey to get it. While the first order only has a few ships left they still overpower the republic fleet that is defending the planet bc everybody is spread about the galaxy and not in any near area (kind of the begining from the 3rd movie of the prequel but we switch between space and the temple). Somehow rey gets the object and escapes to her mother (imagine ten to thirty ships jumping into hyperspace and then 50 ships from the republic apearing and reinforcing the currenty fight). Could be the first scene but I am not a good writer.
The one I really feel sorry for in this whole mess is Mark Hamill, he's a wonderful actor and his role of Luke essentially catapulted his career sky high and obviously he holds a lot of respect for Star Wars and George Lucas as well, I imagine when the new trilogy was announced he must've been thrilled to have a chance to act as Luke again, this time much older and wiser, both as actor and character. But he so openly thrashed the sequels which is not something you see actors almost ever do. He wanted to be a part of something wonderful and instead watched something he holds very dear to be destroyed and he had to take part in it. From almost every interview I've had a chance to see he seems not mad or disillusioned, he is just legitimately sad it ended up the way it did it breaks my heart.
He was hyped to be what Alec Guinness was to him so long ago. He knew obvious he’d be in the mentor role to the protagonist of this era, but that didn’t bother him. Think I remember he said he got himself into shape and the whole nine yards just to be given a 10 second cameo at the ass end of the force awakens. They really did him dirty. The scene of young him staring off into the two evening suns of Tatooine longing for something more than being a moisture farmer will forever the most iconic scene of the whole franchise to me.
Aww feel bad for the bad actor who gets fans groveling at his feet for participating in a shit movie. BTW he loves the films and hates fans that don't. Go read his tweeter.
@@BoleDaPole You are fake news. Hamill has NEVER said that. 1/10 for bad trolling because you have never read any of his tweets..(It's obvious to anyone who follows him you are full of it.)
Dude you had me shed a tear at 1:36:21 The contrast between the story you made, and what Star Wars was is laughable at best How on earth are big franchise writers so shit?
Because they hire for diversity, and if they can't get that they hire whoever shares their ridiculous opinions. They should be hiring for value instead, but whatever
@@liambrasier6590 Braindead comment tbh Who got fucked over worse by this trilogy than John Boyega? They marketed the film with his black stormtrooper character and then gave said character zero development and barely more screentime Disney likes to look like they care about diversity but if anything this trilogy's writing "talent" was too white
11:19 The idea of Han limping, showing his older age while still wanting to be involved in the action is not only incredibly emotional but completely in character. He was all about being a snarky badass and thrived on adventure; this isn't a job, it's his life. Seeing his age catching up to him would tell the audience, without any words, that he's fighting his own expiration date. That is simple, nuanced, sympathetic and adds to his arc perfectly- god, I love it
@@stgriff2566 I don't think it's not that they can't fix a limp, but it's more likely that Han would not acknowledge that there was a problem, and as such never try to have it fixed. As to the age thing, most of the research for extending lifespan involves the Force, not medical technology in the Star Wars universe, so it's understandable that it would not have significant progress. Though I personally have a theory that the reason why age is still a problem for most of the humanoid species is that the Hutts and other criminal-aligned species with excessively long life-spans actively shut down any concerted research efforts into improving the life-spans of humanoid species so that they don't have as many competitors in the galaxy.
Just saw this and bravo! I found myself having bigger reactions to your rewrite. Loved the plot twist with Rei's mother. That ending was chef's kiss. I really hope that these get made into movies, or even graphic novels. Maybe even an animated series. I also, really enjoy that you don't just offer a critique, but your own solution for the issues. Once more bravo.
Yeah... But is does make kilos redemption a bit less convincing.... And that is my one problem with Darth Vader, he is saving the life of obi wan in the start of a movie, almost killing him the next...
Han's exactly how we remember him - definitely not how I remember him. He's exactly as I remember him at the beginning of Episode 4 not at the end of Episode 6. He had a character arc through the OT that saw him go from a self centred, selfish rogue, to a self sacrificing general. He is treated by episode 7 almost as badly as Luke is in 8.
Thank you!! Hans entire character arc was discarded and he was turned into a 66 year old Loser with a failed military and racing career who had to become a smuggler again just to make ends meet. Left his job, Lost his wife, lost his son, lost his ship. And not even for any good story reasons. This alongside not putting ALL THREE OF THE ORIGINAL CHARACTERS on screen together again, is what upsets me the most.
Yes in episode four you could hear how he does not belive any force stuff, while in the end of episode six he knows how great jedi Luke is. Is it that average viewer hates prequals, because it was just bad acting, while had great story, when George Lucas didnt get help in acting the charchters, when if he had got help, like in orginals. The acting would be more better and so prequals more loved, but these sequals just compleately forgot the story and so hard core Star Wars fans hate the sequals, because it had no story and had jokes there that made the movies even more clown like and thats why Star Wars toys are not selling, because the hard core Star Wars fans buy the toys, while average viewers dont care about the toys. If George Lucas could have made the story of sequals and had some help for example Steven Spielberg with acting. The sequals would then become great movies, but instead some stupid little liberal wortheles bald man Ryan Johnson made the sequals.
i think what EVEVERYONE does not udnerstand, is that 30 years pass between 6-7 and thats more time off screen for character development than all 3 originals movies combined and just like with luke, we are told how his life fell apart after kylo went awol, but what i dont get is why people expect the characters to be EXACTLY the same for no reason at all. like they dont progress downword as people after hardships, which is a completly human thing, but no lol star wars fans wanted the their belopved characters to remain static for 30 years just for their enjoyment. I will say tho, they could have done a dozen things differently while sticking with the core concept that kylo killed the padawans and that fucked with everyone and caused some negative progression to take place and it probabaly would have been recieved a little better.
i think that will go down as one of the biggest issues, and TFA having literally ZERO things happen, just expecting the next film to carry the entire story from a start point where there's literally 2 hours of filler
I actually answered all the question's as he is possibly smugging to himself thinking that he found some refutable evidence. Except that all these questions have been ansered in the FIRST movie. for example. Is the first order a small faction or a large faction? Small faction. Stated in the first movie of the sequal trilogy. Why didn't they built a navy instead of starkiller? Limited resources. So they decided to built one death canon that soaks up energy from the sun instead of creating new energy and deliver that first blow in a desperate attempt to destroy the enemy. Why didn't the New republic do anything? The new republic didn't want another war and only saw the first order as a fringe group. All of the question he so smugly spouts can be explained. Yes explained poorly with not much logic placed into them. But they CAN be answered.
@@charley15z lol, still better than that harry potter fanfic that JK rowling okayed. (forgot the name, something child. no, it is not fantastic beasts, I refer to the book one)
Yes!!!!!! And I LOVE how this brings up the opportunity for Luke to know about and not make the same mistake as we watched his father make in the prequels. Poetry.
I ain't gotten to that part of the video yet so IDK if he mentioned this; but I would have really, really loved it if while Rey was with Luke in the second film she expresses doubt about her prowess with the Force compared to her enemies, saying that she can only try, to which Luke responds with Yoda's "Do or do not, there is no try."
To me, it felt like the prequels expanded upon the universe, giving things more depth and gave Easter eggs or nostalgia bait things that were actually important or were presented with love. The sequels just felt small, felt like I had already seen them a million times but with the originals and prequels, it feels like I'm watching them for the first time, like there is more behind the curtains that is happening that I can't see. The sequels had no moments that felt like an impact to the story that was happening, it just felt bland. Like even though some lines from the prequels were bad, they had merit, the lines had purpose and required you to pay attention but more importantly the prequels and the originals felt like they were created because someone had an itch to tell a story that he had never heard before, that he brought something that expanded our imagination but the sequels just destroyed that, burnt everything and are trying to pretend like they care while they do it. There's a huge difference between the Original Trilogy and the Prequel Trilogy to the Sequel Trilogy. Both Original and Prequel were created by people who wanted to tell a story about love, jealousy, hate, spite, complacency, loss, hope and the Sequels were created by people who just wanted to get their names involved in Star Wars to make a dollar.
Terminator 2 Empire Strikes Back The Bride of Frankenstein The Dark Knight The Road Warrior No particular order, off the top of my head, but I think these right here are the elite sequels
It's actually pretty terrible writing. Not the story bit itself, but the way it's implemented into the movie. Told through a (long) hologram sequence? Come on, that would make no sense given how holograms work (can't show multiple times and spaces from a person's perspective if they weren't recorded) and horrible to watch as you've had to look on a table with some blue light emitted to it for quite some time (if I haven't misunderstood something and the part isn't then shown as a flashback... which would still be impossible, since why should Luke see Dooku's perspective of all those moments?).
@Ambar42 You did miss something: The flashback within the hologram scene. Luke would just see Count Dooku giving a report via hologram, but the action scene part which prompted Dooku to make that hologram report would be a flashback scene for us viewers.we come back to the hologram when Dooku apologized to Master Yoda for failing him. He hasn't felt that since he was a child but he admitted he felt afraid. That is what you missed. St most 5 minutes of the video. You lost focus for a solid 3 minutes of that. Timestamps: 1:21:30 - Luke finds the hologram 1:22:25 - 1:25:30 - The Flashback scene 1:26:09 - 2nd Hologram w/ Walking because *Yes, holograms can show walking conversations that were recorded* & as a bonus that scene could be shown to the audience as a flashback too, showing the droi 1:25:31 droids recording the conversations as they walked. Because a *flashback* is a scene showing the audience something out of sequence a.k.a. something that has already happened yet didn't affect the story until now. Flashbacks are not inherently memories.
This is where Star Wars lives. Not in greedy corporations, but in the hearts and minds of fans. Thanks for the better story. As far as I'm concerned, it's canon now.
No joke, I was more entertained by hearing that rewrite than I was by actually watching the sequels. Can't even remember if I've seen all of the sequels... just lost interest.
Hey, really beautifully done video man. You blew my mind on a lot of small details in the Star Wars universe that shouldn’t have been executed on the new trilogy. Really love your pitch for the revised trilogy as well. Such a shame we got what we did when we have talent like you who can really give us the stories we crave and deserve.
Your version of the the sequels was so good that only watching the ride of the Rohirrim could fill the void that took over my thoughts as I finished your video. That scene when Luke redeemed the entire Jedi Order would have been a cinematic highlight for years to come. It's truly sad how the Star Wars franchise was treated.
Again, you claim it was good and your entitled to your opinion, no one I've shown this video to has liked his version. Myself included, I stand by my statement the guy needs to learn how to tell stories. You have to have clear points and not just oh hey I think this makes good sense here so i'll insert it here.
Your trilogy rewrite brought tears to my eyes. Not because it was beautifully written but it shows just how dead and hollow they’ve made Star Wars compared to how we could’ve felt.
Yeah I 100% agree. I bet The Closer Look isn’t even as much of a hardcore fan as many of the people watching this video, but solely the care and respect with which he treats both the original movies as well as the prequels in his rewrite shows that he is very capable as a writer.
I imagined the whole film in my head, all the possibilities, it was such a wonderful ride! When you said "the credits roll", I almost shed a tear. That was the most amazing ending it could possibly had!
If Jar Jar had walked out from behind some curtains and claimed to be both Rey and Kylo's father, I think the whole story would've been more believable and would've made more sense.
Oh we're angry alright. If somebody takes a big dump on your porch and then tells you that you're evil for not noticing his genius, that's no longer disappointment. That's anger about a roundhead that needs a beating.
@@jthomas6672 fear leads to hatred not anger. You can be angry at something or someone but not fear them, but if you hate someone you almost always fear them in someway
I was suprisingly really in to your own story than the other star wars movies from disney more. Really shows how such valueable efforts in storybuilding shines a light in the story itself. You really outdone yourself more than other film writers nowadays 👍
The fact that you got some of us tearing up by just listening to your version of the story, I think, speak volumes about the talent that you have, and the RESPECT for the franchise in an equal level. THANKS for giving us this sequel narrative, this will be canon for me.
I thought to myself that I was being silly for tearing up while listening to a pitch for a rewrite that will never happen but it is simply so fucking good 😭😭😭😭
This is more in character than anything in the sequals. Tbh the anti jedi propaganda might be the best part of his rewrite :O so in character for sidious to do something lile that.
@@oskardanigsecher9906 This is actually completely out of character really and a misunderstanding of what happened that day. Palpatine wasn't disfigured by Mace, he was always disfigured from his use of the Dark Side. Mace revealed it breaking the alchemy performed to guise the corruption, which Palpatine then used for his purposes to draw sympathy and claim it as an attack by the Jedi. The novelization, which has changes only where Lucas asked for them, has Windu barely holding it back, asking for help, the lightning nearly breaking through the lightsaber, then Palpatine relents, vies for Anakin's assistance and cries about weakness using his appearance for sympathy of his dear friend to which he was practically a father. Palpatine is not a vain character, he doesn't adore his appearance, he sees everything, including himself, as a tool for his own purposes. He needed to appear the humble gentle aged father/grandfather figure to the galaxy and Anakin and some others of the Jedi Order as Senator and Chancellor Palpatine who was the hero that kept the Republic intact, he then calmly considered the effects and could use the disfigurement to show himself a victim yet strong leader to garner sympathy for himself and animosity against the Jedi as Emperor, and later use it further to his advantage. His hatred is not limited to such a petty squabble as Windu, no, his wrath and rancor is a grander scale, a scale infinite in scope, yet boiled down to a single focus on a goal - the death of the Jedi Order and the rule of the Sith. This aspect still works, in that Palpatine would definitely show Mace Windu for his attempt to kill Palpatine but it would be less personal, more strategic. After all, Palpatine recorded Windu's attempt to arrest him.
@@oskardanigsecher9906 No, it makes absolutely no sense, whatsoever. The Jedi's reputation would have been one of the first things for the New Republic to restore after the Empire's fall. Luke, their greatest hero, is a Jedi, after all, also they of course would fix how history is told in the galaxy after the Empire has rewritten it through lies. Apart from that all of the galaxy's older generations would still remember the good deeds of the Jedi so the truth would spread, no matter how the Empire tried to propagate a different narrative.
@@Ambar42 Honestly this can make for another interesting conflict between the republic and First order, assuming that in "The Closer look"s rewrite both Republic and 1st Order are about equally powerful factions, where both sides are rewriting history in their own way. The Republic glorifying Jedis and Jedi order as these flawless, noble heroes and peacekeepers while the First order kept Palpatine's version of history preserved, or maybe bend it further for their benefit, showing the Jedi as manipulative monsters who abducted and groomed children into emotionless soldiers, with what is considered as "accurate history" in a sector/galaxy/area depending on what faction governs it. It can make for another showcase of the Republic and 1st order's conflict and expand the world further IMO
I think that part 4 really shows, what a great writer you are. Just listening to the alternate story you made up for the trilogy, captured my imagination and my emotions more than viewing it onscreen ever did.
the idea of Luke having to tearfully reveal who Rey's real mother is could totally echo the "no I am your father scene" except now Luke is in the place of Vader. Rey would be so shocked and hurt, she would have the same reaction to Luke finding out who his dad was! And Luke would feel so terrible that he is in this position of having to hurt her like Vader hurt him!!!! Wow, that would be so cool.
@@lordrevan5601 yep. I mean, theres also a lot of objectively bad fanfiction out there, but even those brought joy to at least the author. So they have still more worth than the new trilogy.
I had some tearing up when we mentioned Luke entering the Jedi temple in awe and wonder and that incredible build up to the horror of the Holocron messages.
In legends, Luke was a proud and successful Jedi warrior who was happily married to an equally awesome woman (who had a great arc of her own), had a son, and embarked on numerous missions throughout the galaxy. In the sequel trilogy, he became a bitter hermit and died shortly after he was found. Even though legends is far from perfect, I think most people agree the legends Luke was a lot better.
The only book of the EU that I found was when Luke met Mara and I really liked the book and her as a character. Made me very sad when Disney said that it was no longer cannon...and then mad when there was that random push for gender politics
He was also a very powerful force wielder and lightsaber duelist who created a new stronger jedi order and taught new jedi not to fear the dark side but to accept it as the force. but where is all that building up to where he is living out the rest of his life learning from ancient jedi
@@kangwamaster4638 I really don't care what Disney said. Why should we accept that this empty husk of a overly long merchandise commercial of a trilogy replaced decades of expanded universe stories? Nah fuck them, the EU is canon in my book.
@@brotbrotsen1100 I mostly agree with you, the one thing I say disney SHOULD have done was clean up legends because lets be honest with ourselves here, legends had problems as well, whilst I think legends should still be cannon, as it is it isn't perfect
Like Coruscant was a FANTASTIC idea! In a fantasy epic where society is spread across different planets, it makes perfect creative sense that one of them has to be a central hub. And its made even better by the fact that Lucas didn’t just make it this shining metropolis, but he gave it its slums, and factories, and dinky corner-street diners 👌🏻
To me, the trilogy kind of felt like Disney is just showing off. "Look, we have Chewbacca! Look, we have lightsabers! Look, we have R2D2 and C3PO! Look, we have Han Solo and Lando! Look, we killed Han Solo!" But you know what? I can't remember any of the new heroes names. Look, Disney: I have a middle finger!
DX did a really good critique of the sequels. The biggest problem with these movies is that they assumed Star Wars was defined by its surface-level elements (e.g. lightsabers, spaceships, the force, aliens, establishment oppressors, Skywalkers, Palpatines, and giant planet-destroying lasers), when in fact the TRUE appeal of Star Wars is how its story has many parallels to real-world concepts which we can RELATE to (e.g. Jediism=religious disciplines, the empire=space Nazis, Luke=a young farmer boy who joins a war effort, Revenge of the Sith=the collapse of once-great democracies, Vader killing the Emperor=rejecting the devil, Luke not giving into dark side temptations=not making the wrong choices in life, Ewoks=noble savages, Anakin=borderline personality disorder, Padme's relationship with Anakin=abusive relationship with unstable partner, etc.).
Honestly even NC has a good point in his video on the prequels being better since they were still the vision of Lucas and not a corporation and that's what the sequels are that a corporate decision while the prequels are just lucas doing what he wanted
@@david-bd8op Anakin is vader, man. If anakin and vader are different people, why would vader ever have any incentive to hate the jedi? why would vader have any affention towards luke when the emperor was electrocuting him? why would vader care about padme and her dying? its just obi wans bullshit philosophy
the pain and dissapointment caused to mark makes me cry honestly. he was the biggest fan of star wars out of all of us. he was in a way our leader, president of the fandom. and he loved luke and the story maybe more than most of us. and to see him, his life, teenage and adulthood, ripped from him in such a way. heartbreaking.
ikr, it shows the potential kylo could have had, I loved it. He could have been such a good villain, snoke too, but they had nothing to show for their actions, no motivation, to me, snoke was just a pawn, I wouldn't even call him a villain because he did nothing "villain like"
Fully fleshed out, well though out and with cinematics and music to boot? Hell yeah, as himself says in the video, they were good movies, beautiful cinematography.. but poor sequels. Beggars belief how they butchered it given source material.
They were like, No, Adam Driver can't be a villain. I think that's the only reason they didn't make him a big bad and make a grey villain who became good in the end.
Oh man. Your version was incredible. After seeing the characters, especially Luke treated so terribly by Disney, to see someone who actually cares and is a good writer do something that carries the story forward and not just teleports it to some random spot in left field is just refreshing. I really needed that. I was troubled by one part though. I know we want to hit a downbeat in the second movie, that's just a gimme. I don't know if Luke dying then was the right call. It's great but I wanted more from him than realizing he was a bad mentor. We need to see how powerful he really is. This is Luke near prime and I don't think we're gonna get that out of one sacrificial act unless he contains a supernova with the force or something. 😂 We have to see even him barely making it against the Youzhong Vong. Challenged in combat, challenged in mentorship. We have to show the orders of magnitude difference between a jedi knight like even Obi-Wan and Luke, son of the chosen one, and without massively debilitating injuries. And we really need to see his relationship with Leia, his twin sister. I love Han retiring. Chewie trying to convince him he's still got some good years in him. Chewie heartbroken because wookies live much longer. Like watching your old dog age. Leia got such a good treatment in Obi-Wan. I want to see more of her political acumen in the spotlight. A force user as strong as her but as a force for society. Running circles around her opponents, handling dissent, charming everyone around her. Honestly, there's way more than enough story for 2 sequel trilogies. God I hope AI hurries up and we can tell it what movies we want. 😂
Like I told many friends, I'm emotionally attached the OT, extremely immersed in the lore of the Prequels and couldn't care less for the Sequels. Force Awakens was enjoyable, despite being a pseudo-Ep.4, but the rest nearly destroyed my love for the franchise. Edit: Anything Legends is also insanely amazing, as are the games. I still dream of the Old Republic era on the big screen or as a TV show.
@@TheNameCannotBeFound I agree. I grew up in the 70's and 80's and Star Wars, for me, was a defining cinematic masterpiece. I watched them over and over, bought the toys, lunch boxes, shirts, Halloween costumes . . . . The prequels left a bit of a bad taste as did all of Lucas's tinkering with the original trilogies by adding in all sorts of CGI crap as the fault of Lucas was, for me, in showing us a story with great visuals instead of telling us a story with great visuals. In the sequels. I am being shown interesting worlds and ships with little backstory or explanation and plot and characters that may indeed check off the necessary boxes of good storytelling (like character development) but do so in such a terrible fashion and with absolutely no regard for Star Wars' fans or history. Look at Hamill's reaction in his statement to Rian. That right there is a man troubled by what he acted in. His voice faltered, and he genuinely looked distressed and dare I say disappointed while Rian Johnson nods his head. He has no idea.....got his benjamin's and doesn't care. I saw Last Jedi once, and have no desire to watch it again, nor Rise of Skywalker.
To be honest, I think the most interesting direction to take from a world-building perspective would have been for the sequels to have taken place in a geopolitically shattered galaxy. After all, just because you kill the Emperor doesn't mean the Empire itself will magically transform itself into a functioning republic again. Instead of the New Republic becoming the reigning power, it could have been simply first among equals, with the rest of the galaxy broken between Moffs-turned-warlords, Hutt Cartels and Black Sun carving off their own domains, Mandalorians going a-conquering yet again: everyone and anyone, rushing to fill the power vacuum left in the interregnum of the Empire. This way, you don't make everything which happened during the Original Trilogy worthless, and you get to explore themes wholly different from the Original Trilogy, yet directly resulting from its consequences. It's one thing to tear down oppressive power structures, but it's another thing entirely to build new ones to replace them. This gives a pathway for character development, both for new characters and old ones. And instead of resurrecting the Sith (thereby undercutting Anakin's character arc), the story can focus on the hard, messy, often tragic task which is rebuilding in the aftermath of tyranny. Rather than feeling the need to artificial raise stakes with Death Star knock-offs, the characters can instead contest not with clear-cut villains, but with antagonists with perfectly understandable, perhaps even justifiable reasons for the actions they commit. Imagine if the First Order was a faction of former Imperials genuinely trying to restore order, rather than a clearly irredeemable cult of sci-fi Neo Nazis? Imagine if other coalitions of planets like the New Republic formed, but along ideological/sectarian lines different from them, resulting in a cold war? Or rogue factions of the Rebellion who didn't want to restore the Republic at all, for fear of creating another Empire. And through it all, Luke could be struggling to rebuild the Jedi Order, while still working to preserve peace in the galaxy, while balancing political concerns as elements within the New Republic try to use him and the Order for their own ends. Rather than struggles with the Dark Side, Luke could be struggling to protect his students from trials for which they are not yet ready, while still trying to uphold his responsibility to the vulnerable as a Jedi, and while still sussing out for himself what it even means to *be* a Jedi. There were so many different directions the story could have gone this way, without rehashing either the Prequels or the Sequels, or betraying the successes the characters therein achieved, and has the added advantage of being a realistic picture of what actually happens when empires die. I dunno, perhaps it's too adult for an franchise that's supposed to be accessible to kids, but I think it would have been cool.
That’s such a good idea!! I actually might try to do a sequel rewrite off of this idea... I’ll credit you :) In my mind I can see that in the years since the empire fell, there was a massively divisive conflict in the galaxy over who controlled regions. Different groups rise like you say... an imperial split leaves the new republic at the core and with little territory around it, so they work with willing moffs and governors, allowing them to keep territory; meanwhile the more dedicated imperials form the first order to consolidate their own space, and begin work on a defense station for systems under their protection, using materials from the already carved out planet of Ilum ; Mandalore leads a group called the League of Independent Systems (those who wish to self rule independent of any other faction and if threatened by one can call on the other members for help; any systems that can provide aid in a situation but don’t can be removed from the league and not allowed any aid themselves) ; other factions like the black sun, and the Chiss take control of their own regions ; after enough time the conflict mostly dies down as the borderlines are established; the factions are each about matched in power so the borders are static for the most part; however any apparent weaknesses in the borders are immediately exploited by nearby factions to gain power, because each wants to take enough to overcome the others and rule the galaxy, or at least more of it. Ruling factions rely on their systems for strength and supplies, and thus offer protection to newcomers. Imagine the first order not being nazis like you say, and helping people. with the borders mostly settled it’s more like the Cold War than WWII, each faction spying and performing military maneuvers to threaten each other. The first order’s defense station is discovered by new republic espionage, and battles resume along their borders as the new republic, in an alliance with the League, move to infiltrate First Order space and eliminate the threat of hyperspace laser bombardment (bc destroying more planets is just lazy, say it just has a powerful and precise hyperspace laser system to target military bases and fleet shipyards). Imagine the attack on the defense station leaves it crippled but not destroyed at the end (or maybe as the beginning) of the first movie, so the first order desperately tries to retake it and rebuild the damage, sending in their fleet to battle around ilum and the station, and to cut off the penetrating supply chains into their space that keep the new republic forces supplied enough to keep the system suspended between the control of either faction. As for the characters: Luke is trying to rebuild the Jedi from a destroyed reputation, and because they are outlawed in some regions must be careful in his movements. He acts as a vigilante to keep peace outside each factions law, and trains more Jedi, hoping to prove to the galaxy that the Jedi can indeed bring peace and minimize hardship. You could have Han trying to continue his old life as a smuggler but feeling guilt over the loss of his son, who he was never close enough with at the most vulnerable parts of his development and therefore wasn’t emotionally ready to be a Jedi; Kylo, drawn to the dark side during his training with Luke, partially under the influence of snoke, and realizing that the darkness has potential to help people, though without realizing the full force of its effects on him as he uses it more. He betrays Lukes trust while leading one group of his Jedi on a mission in one system when they have to split up; Luke finds the bodies of some who were in that group and realizes the rest went with kylo. He takes on the new mission of tracking down Kylo before he can become a major threat, with the Jedi he has left. You have Leía, a higher up in the new republic senate, returning to military authority to conduct the infiltration, and desperately trying to maintain the fight around ilum and keep the support of the League. Then you could have Finn, still a first order trooper, traumatized after the bloodbath of his unit fighting earlier in the border disputes, force sensitive and fearing his chain of command that ends in dark side users, and who finally snaps and deserts after another traumatic fight on one of the moons of another planet in the Ilum system in one of the initial fights. You could have Rey, a small time scavenger who wanted to see the galaxy and travel, getting caught up in Han’s falcon crew and eventually the fight around ilum. The plot lines would all converge: Luke wants to help Finn after sensing his presence in the force while tracking down Kylo, because he senses his potential in force power and his will do to good in the universe; snoke wants him as well for his power, and commands kylo to bring him in as a final test for kylo’s entry into the ranks of military leadership of the Order; Han and Rey are forced into seeking help from the league to escape a smuggling debt situation with crimson dawn (who have taken over hutt space since the collapse of the hutts and jabba’s death, and are allies of the first order) and appeal to Bo Katan, who is leading Mandelore, having come to understand her sisters ideals more in the hardship of a civil war following the empires collapse, and in the faction conflict. In return for settling debts, Han is tasked with carrying supplies alongside a mandelorian escort ship to ilum, where he reunites with leía on the front lines, and is able to finally reconnect with his old friend Luke after his years of chasing the trail of Jedi appearances. Wow I just wrote a ton but those are all the initial thoughts racing through my head... I’ll try and consolidate them better in an actual draft of it!
@@willmungas8964 That first draft will be crazy! This is a novel idea, but like original poster said, there isn't much kid appeal. I'd love it, but I'm not sure there'd be much opportunities for a line of toys out of this haha.
This is fucking GOLDEN idea dude. Yes. YAAAASSSSS. I want to hear more. Who are you're characters? Are you taking anything with you from the Sequel trilogy? This deserves a fucking chat dude. Are you on Reddit?
Fuck me... This was a bit of a rollercoaster to watch. First I thought I'd have a light hearted fun time watching someone wipe their behind with the trilogy that killed of a part of my childhood. However it ended up being emotional and depressing at the thought of what could have been, had someone like you been handed the rains to the franchise. Brilliant work, mate. 👌
I really hope someone in Disney step up and says "let's pretend than never happened" and restarts the sequels. Yeah, I know how bad everyone thinks of Disney, but they do have some nice films and cartoons. Oh, and dont let J J Abrams film anything important
Gotta disagree with your point that Abrams respected the Han Solo character in TFA. His version of Han regressed the character, undoing the lovely arc in the original trilogy where Han learns to abandon his selfish nature and becomes a leader of the Rebellion. When Han thinks Leia is in love with Luke in ROTJ, Han is ready to step aside for her happiness. That's a huge moment for him because we can see that's he's ready to let go of his selfish ways and give up something he cares about for the sake of his friends and it completes his arc in that trilogy. In TFA, Han has left Leia and gone back to his smuggling ways. He's abandoned the idea of helping his son, becoming a dead beat dad, and has left his wife to grieve and manage on her own so he can go back to his criminal life at the age of sixty-whatever. He's become the Han we meet at the beginning of ANH. That doesn't respect the character at all. It unravels all he learned in the original trilogy and destroys his character growth. Han, Luke, and Leia in TFA are all stuck doing exactly what they were doing at the beginning of ANH. They are competely regressed. Terrible writing with no sensitivity to what's come before.
@@raf.nogueira same! It totally breaks cannon, and how the heck do they all split perfectly down the center? I’d get it if the center one did and the others were pushed away but it’s so illogical it hurts
I liked it a lot too but I think it would've been cool if the sequels ended with kylo and ren establishing a grey Jedi order after learning from the mistakes of the original trilogy of the balance too far evil, and the prequels where the balance was too far good, or maybe that since Kylo Ren is directly connected through blood to those stories that's the epiphany he has when he decides to save the Jedi kids in this rewrite. I think that'd be dope
Hey guys, I hope you like this video. I'm not joking when I say this took over a month to make. I don't think I even took a day off in that month. All I did was make this, but I hope you appreciate the work I put into it :D
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@The Closer Look
You're way late with this video, compared to other youtubers, but.. you still managed to add various interesting points. Good job 👍
Hi
@@phaolo6 ( *Edited* )
The pitch is far better than what we got. It serves as a good foundational start point to build up from.
“I’m not angry... I’m disappointed” The worst phrase you ever hear from your parents
Nah, the worst phrase is when you're arguing with them and winning the argument because you have a good point, and they say "It's my house..."
Haha, I knew I should have looked for this first. 😝
The Closer Look True.
@@TheCloserLook That's basically Rian Johnson. "It's my movie ..."
Melkor You know you’re doing something right when Morgoth Bauglir agrees with you.
Luke in the original trilogy:My father has killed billions of innocent people, but I know that I can save him because there’s still good in him. Luke in the sequels: well my nephew had a dream about the dark side so let’s turn him into sachimi.
Truly is his father's son
@@lavish263team5 Hey his father killed everyone EXCEPT his relatives.
That's where he drew the line.
@@Dark6997 Parmesan though?
Edit: *PADME* though?
@@a_stranger_loop Well I mean his blood relatives.
Plus she died of a broken heart quite different than dying from getting stabbed by a lightsaber
@@a_stranger_loop lmao
Darth vader: literally kills dozens of bad people, innocent people, younglings and his comrades
Luke: "there's still good in him"
Kylo: has a bad dream
Luke: "so you must die"
If he's somewhat responsible for the Death Star, then it's millions or billions!
More like genoside
@behind you the entire point of the films is that all sides are retards
the redemption is just a side thing, because there the universe works on binary karma - actions don't "stack"
@behind you Because he overthrew an evil force in the galaxy, saving millions if not billions in the years to come. If you don't believe in redemption you should judge yourself for eternity for all the sins you have committed in your life. That cookie you stole? There was a time when they chop your hand for that.
@@WayTooClose For Death Star are responsible Grand Moff Tarkin and Bevel Lemelissk.
Hearing your scene where Luke talks to force Obi-Wan and hears the mistake he made with Anakin is so beautiful. You literally brought tears to my eyes. The ending shot too of your trilogy is perfection. This is my trilogy
FINALLY! The Closer Look has evolved to the final level of Video Essay: The Feature Length Movie Essay. Congratulations.
underrated comment tbh
Is he going to analyse this video? I feel that it would have been nice to have some more characters to connect emotionally to.
People have written doctoral theses on Shakespeare plays that would take like 20 hours to read.
@@deriznohappehquite I mean cinema is just our more modern day version of stage plays, basically. So it makes sense.
Though usually the Shakespeare essays are praising his work, not tearing it apart limb from limb.
@@randomcommenter7343 well, most of Shakespeare's work is actually good and worthy of praise
I felt more emotions in the summarized version of his story than I did all of the sequel trilogy
So true :/
For real!! I definitely got emotional for this one
I'm almost in tears now. So much better than what we got, it's unbelievable.
Same here
Same for me
I got more emotion out of him telling a story then all of the sequel movies combined.
I cried during certain parts of his story (which at best is just a pitch). Most notably when Obi wan was recalling the events of the prequels and Luke realizing that he has become the very thing he swore to destroy.
An edit I would do is instead of having Rey turn back to the light side when she realizes who she's becoming, she instead tries to deny it and embrace her mothers teachings. Even after she knows what she's doing is wrong, the fact that her mother acts like she genuinely cares about her when no one else has. And that makes her want to what ever they want she can just because you want to please them because they were the only one who cared.
Bruh I got more emotion out of the Taco Bell ad I just got than the whole sequel trilogy
Yeah just listening to him simply _tell_ his story is more enjoyable than actually _watching_ the real films.
i got more emotion out of anakins sand line than every single Disney star wars film combined
No joke
Can't believe I only just found this. I was more invested in this story as you told it than I was in all three fully made, fully filmed sequels. I am a die hard Star Wars fan but my faith and love for the franchise is at an all time low, however this on one random Saturday night has allowed me to cheer and be invested in the world I truly love once again. This is outstanding and I thank you so so much for it, I know I'm three years late but still. I'm booting up the old google docs in the morning and will go back to my star wars AUs. I hope someone high up from Disney has seen this and will read the comment to see truly how amazing this is.
Same... I didn't realize this video had an alternate plot from the title. Sure, maybe the details aren't perfect (how could we expect that from one guy) but the overarching theme is just so good... clearly different from the previous entries but with so many callbacks, world building, etc. Amazing that one good writer could come up with something this good but all of Lucasfilm created what we got.
@@justinberlage6701You can thank the disney plague for that
I'm going to believe this video
If a Disney exec were to see this, the one thing I would absolutely love and go crazy for is a clone wars style animation of an alternative timeline/alternate universe or what if sequel trilogy following this story. However the excuse goes, maybe connecting bits from legends. The point being I would love to see this regardless and i think animated would make the most sense.
grow. up. read. a. book. you. pleib.
Dude someone give this guy a billion dollar budget so he can realize his vision. "A better story" is 100 x better than what we had to endure with Disney.
Sad part is, it wouldn't matter if we did. Star Wars is owned by disney and while yes they are greedy mfers, they are also unapologetic control freaks. Even if he bought the licensing rights to produce something they'd tear it apart and stitch it back together so gruesomely nobody would recognize it.
For all some of my friends talk about 'the importance of copyright cause otherwise anybody could just sell horrible shit with your name on it and you could do nothing about it'... there's only one company allowed to make star wars now and they are making horrible shit with its name on it and nobody can do anything about it.
get elon musk on board we will have a better story in no time
we don’t need a billion dollar budget, just someone with animating skills and a whole lot of time
@Alexander Asher how could you tell?
Tbh I feel like I'm the only one in this comment section that didn't really like his version. Some parts were great, like Obi wan telling Luke of how anakin turned evil and the flashback to jedi Count dooku, but overall I thought it was just too predictable and lacked the plot events needed to be as dramatic as he wanted it to be. Don't get me wrong I absolutely agree that the sequels need character arcs, but it just seemed to me like he could have handled them better. Rey switched from good to bad way too many times, just to ultimately turn good in the end, and there really isn't any sacrifice that pushes her to change-- to me it kind of felt like he just really wanted to give her a character arc but didn't really spend a long time thinking about creative ways for her to be motivated to change. Things like Rey being the daughter of a sith lord is also very predictable and something we've already seen in the franchise. I wasn't a fan of the jedi and sith teaming up against the yuuzhan vong, either. I think it's too late in the franchise to introduce a force so powerful that the whole star wars dynamic changes completely-- something like that would have to be foreshadowed or introduced way before, otherwise it just seems like he pulled them out of a legends book just to give the jedi and sith and excuse to team up. I don't really find the idea of the jedi and sith teaming up to be that exciting either. It would make an interesting twist for them to temporarily fight alongside each other as the climax of a movie, but I don't like the idea of them teaming up for the entire trilogy. Otherwise, it's obvious that his story was rooted in passion and understanding for star wars that the sequels didn't have. His version has potential to tell an amazing story if he just fleshed it out more and didn't make it as predictable
You created a better trilogy in a month than Disney did in 5 years
@spooky katt from all angles i'm afraid too
@spooky katt I’m not sure what bad sequels and reboots have to do with the fall of Western Civilization other than that we keep electing increasingly-delusional celebrities into office for some reason (i.e. Ronald Reagan from Bedtime for Bonzo, Donald Trump from that one scene in Home Alone 2, and lest we forget Kanye West’s quixotic attempt at qualifying for this current election during one of his manic phases...), but I do agree that Hollywood is basically one big high school clique that was basically impossible to join in if you don’t have last names like Stallone or Banks or Disney, even when the economy was doing well...
Jeffrey Thrash if you were to dive deep into the events that mainstream television does NOT report on, then you’d find that those “celebrities” (trumps a business man far more than he is a celebrity) are far more fit at running for president then the ones that look the part.
You can either have criminals and traitors who do all sorts of messed up stuff and whose corruption knows no limits orrr you can choose the political outsiders who don’t know how to conduct themselves presidentially yet are very successful at running a country, even if you never hear about it in television.
@@ZEPR0FESS0RR Thanks for the giggles. Do you honestly expect me to do a complete 180 with my opinion this close to a major election by using the same meaningless Fox News talking points from 2016?
Speaking of Fox News, it’s the most popular TV news network on cable and now owned by Disney after the Fox merger, similar to Star Wars here, meaning Fox News is the very definition of “mainstream television.” Nice try pretending to be a free-thinker, again, it would have actually fooled me prior to the 2016 election.
Finally, thank you for answering my question as to why people keep voting increasingly delusional and out-of-touch celebrities into extremely important government positions. It sounds like the people that think millionaires and billionaires who didn’t even really have to work for their money would even be capable of sympathy for less-fortunate Americans are pretty delusional and out-of-touch themselves. Good day.
well said. great story arc. It is very sad that the Sequel died trough the egos of two directors and the lack of a good story arc for the triology by disney
The pure sadness on Mark Hamill's face makes me VICIOUSLY furious
He's a man you can tell really cared about his character, the series and the fans.
He was a poor man being given orders by people who clearly didn't give a shit.
The worst part is that every interview mark has had about the sequel trilogy is like that. You can see the pain every time, and you can practically feel him holding his tongue when it comes to the shit that upset him. Like how he is straight up complaining how they arent aiming for the fans, and everyone starts clapping like its a good thing and he just gives up. Like no one was even listening to him in that room.
@@jamiesadf5829 Yeah break mine heart also. As child to grew with WS universe. Indeed. Just pure despair.
Hamill always looks sad, always has. He's got resting sad face.
@@jamiesadf5829 I'd put money on there being a "clap now" light flashing to make the audience clap
Everything is going as I have forseen
3:46 "When Snoke is *Certainly* killed!"
I immediately knew what you were setting up further into the video. Genius scriptwriting.
I feel so bad for Mark Hamill as he was trying to do the best for the fans and he know there was issues with it and was powerless to stop it. Hearing you rewrite the story just makes me even more sad as it makes me realize how bad the movies really were. they could have been so good and here we are
Forget mark hamill he's a bad actor and Harrison Ford carried the franchise
Powerless? He made Luke who he is and there's no one else on Earth who could play that role. He had all the power to stop it, he could have stopped production by quitting halfway through and forced a rewrite.
@@secretsocietyofschnauzers then they would have just CGI him into the movie and he wouldn’t have gotten paid irl.
@@matthewhelm7069
Harrison Ford not only took a massive dump on his Han Solo character, he will ruin Indiana Jones even more in the upcoming feminazi Indy flick. He "carried" nothing in those Disney abominations of Star Wars. He's a grumpy old fart.
@@Ricardo-cl3vs fair enough
Vader: *killed millions ruthlessly, killed his own mentor in front of him, cuts your hand, actively hunts you and your friends down, LITERALLY destroyed an entire planet etc...*
Luke: There is still good in him
Ben: *has bad dream*
Luke: THE DEVIL HIMSELF *Ignites lightsaber*
Exactly Luke was good and forgiving and kind.
And they trashed his character arc
One of the stupidest arguments is that he did it in instinct
It was supposed to act as a night light against the nightmare.
@@thatoneroyalguard7060 If he HADN'T ignited the lightsaber, but just reached for it when he sensed the darkness and Kylo wakes up to see Luke with his hand on his saber staring at him in fear it could work. But igniting the lightsaber and preparing to strike? Ridiculous
@@RandomMagus yep
Luke: believes in the good in literally Lord Vader until the very end.
Also Luke: considering murdering a Kid who had some attitude in cold blood in his sleep.
I saw someone literally trying to defend Luke attempting to kill Kylo in his sleep by saying, "Well it's different, and it's not HIS story, it's Rei's story." Like, seriously? Who cares if it's Rie's story, Luke should still act like Luke. Then again, he also was moved to tears at Leia floating herself back onboard the ship from deep space.
@@LWolf12 let's just say that sequels ate not canon
@@basedhalo I'll agree to that.
@@basedhalo Tbh, none of the star wars movies are a napoleonic war era cannon
(Dont sue me, I get the difference, put that gun down STOP-)
Seems like a reasonable reaction to working with teens TBH /s
You hit the hammer on the head with how you bring back a character perfectly in a sequel, I never knew how to articulate that as well as you did.
Also hit the nail on the head😂
The force awakens: too safe
The last Jedi: too bold
The rise of skywalker: too desperate
Accurate. Definitely accurate.
I actually like Force Awakens as a fun movie, but... it is too safe. That is certainly true.
I don't really like The Last Jedi; it's a bold and original but failed attempt. So yeah, too bold.
I don't like The Rise of Skywalker at all. It's a shallow, safe, pandering, focus-grouped, and ultimately inconsequential failed attempt-yup, too desperate to win fans over.
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I like The Last Jedi far more than The Rise of Skywalker. A bold and original but failed attempt is much more interesting than a shallow, safe, pandering, focus-grouped, and ultimately inconsequential failed attempt. They both suck, but I would willingly rewatch The Last Jedi any day over The Rise of Skywalker.
At least none of them are as bad as the snore-fest that is Attack of the Clones.
Edit: it looks like people don’t understand that this is my opinion and there’s really nothing that will change my mind here. Especially nothing about Attack of the Clones; you could not pay me money to sit through it again.
@@andrewheaney4874 I legit love Attack of the Clones. The bad dialogue is hilarious and I love watching it with my family to make fun of.
@@lonebattledroid4474 Nice. If you like it good for you. I just cannot find anything to be enjoyed in it. I can for Phantom Menace and Revenge of the Sith, both of which in my opinion are much better than TLJ, Solo, and TROS. And even Rogue One to an extent (which is massively overrated in my opinion)
You could not pay me money to sit through Attack of the Clones again. Sorry if that offends prequel fans. I’m a massive fan of the Clone Wars show though!
@@andrewheaney4874 no problem. You're way more respectful than how other fans use to act when I told them I liked the prequels. The one good thing about the Sequel trilogy was because they were so universally hated other fans went back and sorta in a sense forgave the Prequels and now PT and OT fans live in harmony.
@@lonebattledroid4474 I enjoy the prequels too. They're not perfect but I also think that there is a lot of bandwagon hate on those films.
The "reveal" that Ray's mother is Darth Kahn gave me more chills than any moment in the 3rd trilogy and you're just reading a script... Incredible writing
Same here. I was expecting her to be Sidious daughter in the actual movie but of course that wasn't the case.
The final reveal that the First Order guy who saved her was her father had me going “HOLY SHITTTTT” like damn this is such good writing
Darth Kahn was a male...
@@NorCalMtnBiker86 Agreed - in Force Awakens she instinctively used the lightsaber with the same style as Sidious does in the prequels.
@@PunchesCouches retcon! It's - current year -!
I think the person who suffered the most from all of this is Mark Hamill. That man helped build this shit and then watched as some dumb "kids" ran his character into the ground.
Yes, but also imagine how George must feel...
@@davet9820 george doesn't give a shit about anything he didn't make
@@davet9820 Lol are you insane? Have you seen what George Lucas did to the movies lol? Dude destroyed the original prints even!
@@keithsimpson2685 Lol what are you talking about you are out of line
I honestly wish he would have told them to piss off if they wouldn't at least consider what he had to say about Luke.
"I'm subverting expectations" is code for "I wanna do it my way, and don't care about consequences"
I cannot properly express how heartbreaking it felt to see Mark Hamill's response to the audience clapping in agreement with Rian Johnson.
They didnt even understand what he was talking about.
All they saw of what he said was the "you go girl do your own thing" type message and they loved it 🤢
For some reason, I can see Joker feeling insulted.
Anyone have the link? I’ve seen it once before but I wanna see it again and can’t find it
Oh no! Luke didn't do what you wanted or act the way you wanted him to? After how many years? Holy shit! It's almost like he's supposed to be a human being! Weird! Jesus Christ grow the hell up.
I cried when you re-wrote the story. Not only because I realised the true lost potential of cinema enjoyment and storytelling but also because the story was just so good that just hearing a random man on the internet reading it to me made me cry of being so invested in the story.
Same here. I'm so interested in the story he has crafted in a month than any of the three movies ever made me. Not even Hans death moved me to tears, I was just angry. His story made me super emotional!!!☺️💖🌸🌷🌺 I was so invested, so interested, so happy, and so sorrowful at the same time.🥺💖 I really wish this was the sequel trilogies not what we got sadly. So much wasted potential.
It was very good
@@PinkPanther45518 same here. This is much more Star Wars, and much more of a continuation to this part of the story than Disney could ever do. It felt very much a continuation of Lucas' vision, with a deep understanding of the original fan base
i feel the same
That last scene made me smile so hard. Well done Closer Look!
okay I never wanna see Mark Hammil look that sad ever again, holy shit, I feel it, like he betrayed his own fans when he couldn't even do anything about it T_T
yeah i feel the same way. It reminds me of Lucas' face when he signed star wars over to Disney. they both look so disappointed, ashamed and completely aware compared to Disney/Rian Johnson.
I think he purposely let his feelings show, if subtly. Only thing he could do without acting against the contract, I suppose.
@@chav3136 Well Lucas could have ya know, said no, you’re not having my creation. He’s no right to look disappointed or ashamed whilst he was willingly signing it over to them.
@@Stupiddumbmanditoryhandle yeah true. I just think he looks really regretful that's all but youre right. Disney might have given him loads of promises that sounded good at the time and he said yes but regretted later. Idk 🤷♀️
He didn't betray his own fans--we asked (demanded) that he play in this new trilogy, assuming the trilogy would be good...and then Hamill got his script for The Last Jedi and was now obligated to comply. You can tell he had many pleas with Johnson to consider the fans, and Johnson--being an arrogant dick--refused to listen. That's why I love Mark Hamill and freakin' hate Johnson.
Your sequel trilogy pitch made me cry a couple times. It was honestly beautiful. Your trilogy idea will be my headcanon for the post OG SW movies from now on.
As someone that hasn’t seen Episodes 8 & 9 due to their poor reception, I now accept your version of this trilogy as canon.
I was going to give you a like, but it's at a perfect 66 right now. 😆 now I can give you a like
The moment Mark the guy who played Luke Skywalker one of the most iconic characters in the history of cinema, voiced a single complaint about Episode 8 I gave up on Star Wars, Disney ruined it.
I didn’t make it past Rogue One (which I thought wasn’t too bad) but without George, these films are just a parody.
Fr idk if it’s cuz it’s 4 am for me but I almost cried cuz of how much better it was and I realized that mark wouldnt act that story out and instead it would just be the joke it is now
Good you’ll lose ur humanity when u watch those films
4:25, that clip of Mark Hamill trying to explain the import of pleasing fans and being betrayed by the room still breaks my heart.
And what sucks is that so many people think "pleasing the fans" means being predictable and unoriginal. I honestly wonder what that crowd would think if they knew their beloved character was emotionally ruined off screen. Story matters but we didn't see it.
I first thought when Hamill's hands trembled he was just exaggerating, but it is definitely real. Imagine being Mark Hamill and having to stomach JJ Abrams's and Rian Johnson's god awful direction because you don't want to ruin the production you know everyone else is working so hard for. The whole experience with the embarrassing sequel trilogy will probably scare him away from doing anything in a movie again.
The people running the franchise have no idea what Star Wars is all about. They think that “having the Force” is a thing. Rey floats in the air AND twirls a bunch of rocks around her. In NONE of the other movies did we see any of the characters do that. In fact none of the characters did ANYTHING like that because that is not what the Force is.
They only saw the little “magic tricks” and thought that was the Force. We only saw young Anakin play with the force-he was with Padme on Naboo. He floated the fruit. None of the other Jedi did anything like that because Jedi don’t do that.
They somehow think that hyperspace is instantaneous. When Luke and Obi Wan went to Alderan with Han Solo, that trip took many hours. We saw Luke learning about the force. Now they can “light speed skip” or whatever that means.
Or Finn and Rose can leave the chase and go to the gambling planet and then get back to the chase?
In space time and distance is vast, not like going to the corner store. The people running Star Wars don’t know what they are doing.
@@theloanranger2632 Hamill's a better man than me. No way would I have been able to do press day in, day out surrounded by those Kool-aid guzzling clowns.
Ikr. I think they thought that Mark was trying to praise Ryan, when in fact he was highlighting a genuine issue.
100% YES to your entire synopsis on Finn. I've been saying almost exactly that for years. Expanding a fantasy universe is not easy, that's for sure. A "deprogrammed" stormtrooper was a PERFECT example of how to show fans something new without breaking any of the rules of the universe.
This was the thing my cousin and I were most excited about. A defected Stormtrooper idea is brilliant. I loved Finn but they gave him nothing to do besides have him chase after Rey for 3 movies. Which I don't understand either. Rey should have been a mix of her, Poe, and Rose, because there are way too many main characters, Jesus christ.
And then they have him kill stormtroopers and say YEAH WAHOO YIPPEE DID YOU SEE THAT?
*kills brothers who he has fought with for years* fin: YEAH. THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT
It was SUCH A GREAT IDEA but they COMPLETELY ruined it
@@GacMan47 I was excited of Finn's character too. I got hyped about his character. He could've led an uprising of stormtroopers against the empire. THAT WOULD'VE BEEN SO COOL. His character was so unique. They wasted his character when potentially, he could've been the best one in the entire sequel trilogy.
Unbelievable video! I don’t think I’ve ever watched a nearly 2 hour long TH-cam video. Well done!
The only thing I would change is adding in something about how the Jedi are also flawed in their no love, no attachments mentality.
It’s always bothered me, even as a kid 25+ years ago, that they didn’t allow love and affection as part of their teachings. So if Luke or Rey, or Kylo can find their way to the gray side that allows for feelings but uses them constructively as opposed to using them for evil like the dark side, I think that would be even better.
This is the most well-known of the Jedi rules. Love leads to attachment and attachment leads to strong emotions, which are the path to the Dark Side of the Force. Because of this, Jedi are forbidden to fall in love.
THIS!!! I read in an amazing fanfic once that falling in love wasn't prohibited, BUT the pain of losing that love is what was dangerous, of course it was a headcanon.
I feel like that specific flaw of the Jedi was aptly portrayed in the downfall of Anakin, wasn't it? The prequels display the consequences of following that rule, and we see Luke in the original trilogy reject those teachings completely. Feel like the prequels were very purposeful in that messaging, no?
@@Thethingummything That's a valid observation and that very well could be what they were going for, but I didn't feel like they really portrayed understanding of that being the cause of Anakin's demise. And, in my opinion, Luke does not reject those teachings, or the story doesn't make that clear. It seems more like the story focuses on his intent to find the good in Anakin, not because of any feeling of love or loyalty, but because he thinks that's the best way to beat the empire.
If Disney made the Lord of the Rings the same way they made the Star Wars Sequels:
The Fellowship of the Ring: Here’s why the ring matters.
The Two Towers: Here’s why the ring doesn’t matter at all.
The Return of the King: Oh no it’s Smaug! Remember SMAUG?!
Somehow... Morgoth has returned
oh the blue wizards as well
I can't be happier that Tolkien wrote appendices, which goes 250 years into period after Return of the King, so no one can destroy Lotr same way they destroyed Star Wars.
@@lukasopalka3396 Disney would declare all that non canon and then cherry pick the bits they liked.
Lukas Opalka We had the EU which were considered canon before the Dark Times. Before Disney.
"You can't say they did a bad job with the world building, because they would have had to attempt to do that job"
Jesus my dude thats savage.
But honest :(
@@coneinggaming6285 m
It is true. No one had any idea of the state of the galaxy. Where did the First Order come from? What was the New Republic? How did Palpatine build all those ships? Some of it may be explained in books but hardly anyone reads those.
@@Avalon_1991 Maybe an unpopular opinion but I would have preferred a movie similar to phantom menace, specifically establishing who and where and what the new republic was, their strength, that sort of stuff
Somehow… Palpatine returned.
Somehow… Rey can defeat literally anyone, despite only discovering the Force literally three days earlier.
Somehow… Rey repaired Luke’s lightsaber, even though it had been torn in half and then completely blown up as the Supremacy was destroyed.
Somehow… The Force Heal ability was never used by any Jedi, not even Anakin to save Padme or Obi-Wan to save Qui Gon, before Rey used it to save an enemy that had killed his own father before her eyes.
Somehow… The Death Star wreckage is on a random ocean planet, mostly intact and left untouched by scavengers, even though it should’ve crashed on Endor and should’ve been completely destroyed by the explosion.
Somehow... Hyperspace is a weapon of mass destruction, which had never been used as a weapon until Holdo came up with it, even literal eons after it’s creation.
Somehow… No one has crashed into something, literally anything, whilst flying in Hyperspace before Holdo did.
Somehow… Force Ghosts can interact with the physical world, yet they have never once tried to help the Jedi in battle.
Somehow… People were paid to write this trilogy.
and somehow... the sequels are still 10 times better the the prequels
@@murphygoat-k4n The ability to speak does not make you intelligent.
@@AlexanderTheBloodraven very original mate
@@murphygoat-k4n Oh, so you want me to start listing off the facts? Well, okay, then:
The Star Wars prequels definitely had problems, mainly in the fact that George Lucas was mainly thinking about the child audience when he was making the trilogy. This led to the creation of Jar Jar, who mainly just came off as annoying and unnecessary rather than comic relief. There is also the fact that the dialogue in the trilogy is more dramatic and ‘poetic’ than the Original Trilogy, which led to some important lines coming off as comedic rather than being dramatic or romantic.
That being said, the story of the Prequels is amazing. The worldbuilding is made in breathtaking detail and provides amazing context for the entire franchise. The plot tells the tragic story of how Anakin became Darth Vader in amazing storytelling and allows you to understand Anakin’s turn to the dark side completely.
Meanwhile, the Sequels can BARELY be called a trilogy or a story at all. Each of the movies were made by different directors who both had different plans for how the trilogy would end. Every time they made a movie, they did not even build their story from the plan that the previous film set up and instead made up their own plan as they went, which ended up causing the themes of each movie completely contradict each other.
For example, The Force Awakens was basically just a remake of A New Hope, with a fancier Death Star. All it did was basically try to build a new story that tried to appeal to the Original Trilogy, however, instead of trying to build A New Story off of the Original Trilogy, they basically just tried to copy everything from more iconic films to try and look appealing, instead of coming up something new and original.
However, The Last Jedi has the exact opposite problem. It tries to make a story that was new and original, but instead of building the story off of the legacy of the Original Trilogy’s characters and accomplishments, they essentially try to make every single one of our favorite past characters look as pathetic as possible so that they can new characters look better. Luke’s entire character was completely ruined by this movie, because he turned into the exact opposite of who he was. He went from a brave, determined Jedi to a cowardly, pathetic hermit who wouldn’t even leave the planet he was on to save his own sister and the Rebellion.
These are just a few of the countless problems that the Sequels stupidly created. Let’s get into the characters shall we?
First off, Rey is a terrible protagonist. From the very first part of the trilogy, she has NO character development. Absolutely NONE. Her abilities in the Force are not attained through hard work and determination, but are just GIVEN to her by the writers for no other reason than to make her overpowered. And it’s not just the Force they made her overpowered with. They made her win EVERY SINGLE LIGHTSABER DUEL SHE’S EVER HAD. The first time, literally the FIRST TIME, she ACTIVATED a lightsaber, she went up against a guy who had been trying with the Force and his lightsaber his ENTIRE LIFE, despite having NO training with any blade-like weapon of any kind. And she WINS.
The first time that both Luke and Anakin fought in a lightsaber duel, even though they had trained their asses off, they got their asses handed to them. Because of course they did. Both the opponents they were facing were significantly more experienced and powerful than they were. The point of that was that both of them eventually overcame their struggles and grew more skilled as time progressed.
But Rey didn’t overcome any struggles, because she was never defeated. She was already made the most powerful character by the begining of the trilogy through nothing else but 10 inches thick plot armor.
There are countless other problems in the Sequels. So many that I can’t even get into the full number of them without turning this reply into an entire book.
The Prequels definetly weren’t perfect, but they were definetly better than a dumb story that MAKES NO SENSE and ruins every single one of our favorite past characters. The fact that you are actually trying to say that the Prequels were WORSE than this garbage makes me wonder if you’ve actually watched Star Wars at all.
@Anne O'Nymous ayo I watched that last week lol
Dude. Your story was amazing. It had me absolutely captivated. Far more than any of the new trilogy. You fixed every issue I had with them and it was an all around great story with a much better ending.
Luke, Shock in his eyes, whispers out: "I failed her."
And Obi-Wan Somberly nods.
*Damn*
That whole scene was *Damn*
Would have been great if Obi-Wan said, "Like I failed your father... You redeemed Anakin. You can redeem Rey."
Richard Bigg That’s brilliant man. Thanks for that mental image, it hit me right in the feels. xD
You can't tell me the kid who saw good in the most evil man in the galaxy saw his nephew have a few dodgy nightmares and thought "Oh I've gotta kill this one". Rian had absolutely no idea who Luke was and what he stood for.
just one sign he had no idea what was going on
no fucking chance he would
I see you don't understand Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.
@@cerebrophage7709 From what? Nothing bad happened BEFORE he tried to kill his nephew... sure hiding away after the incident and the temple being burnt down makes some sense.
@@1001History the kind of confrontation and what he had to do with his father and what vader did and how vader did it, and what luke had to do to his father might be a bit traumatizing. Being someone who struggles with PTSD myself, this makes complete sense to me: nearly abandoning ones convictions to protect yourself and others. Not only this, he realized in that moment he was about to repeat the same path his father took.
Edit: further, PTSD blocks out your memories and leaves only the intense feelings there and specific stimuli that trigger those memories as a warning system.
The summary you give in your post is a summary of what Luke confessed summary. We don't have the full story, just Luke's and Ben's brief recounting of events. No context, nothing. Just a sixty second retelling.
Damn man, parts of your sequel story gave me chills and made me feel more than the actual sequels. When Obi-Wan asks Luke if he ever told him how his father became Vader, wow, what a missed opportunity not having moments like this in the actual films.
Spoiler alert
Multiple scenes in your re-write had me tearing up in the middle of work. Your spoken-word head-canon had more emotional impact on me than any scene in the entire sequel trilogy. Hopefully one day we can just get a AI render-farm to generate it and have a proper denouement to Luke's story.
Damn really?! I thought it was cringe inducing
AI?
You're disgusting. More disgusting now than Abrams and Johnson could ever be. You don't care about art or work or even gratitude. You only care about consuming good content, regardless of effort or human soul. Do fucking better.
Me too...smile
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AI?...
You're disgusting. More disgusting now than Rian and Abrams could ever be. You don't care about creating a good story or even the effort put into a good story. You only care about consuming a good story. Do better.
And I know either you or YT hid my last comment, but I will not be discouraged.
I consider your rewrite Canon
Huzzah, a pundit of quality.
So say we all!
I didn't know you were so into Star Wars Joey. You are a multi dimensional character.
Isn't that the beauty of imaginative fiction? Being able to choose how you want the story to end, rather than some corporation?
@@wyatteichholz3139 Joey salads is certainly not quality
"billions of people were murdered and it wasn't even acknowledged in the sequel."
Bruh, I forgot it even happened.
NGL same honestly
I don’t even know the names of any of the planets that were blown up
@@superninja493 I dont think we were told, what these planets are called...
@@Hibbedat Exactly, I know it was just one planet destroyed in A New Hope but Tarkin said that Alderaan was being destroyed
so did the fucking filmmakers
I actually hated Hans character in TFA
felt like they scrapped all of his character development in the OT to create a nostalgic Han for the audience
Agreed! The man was a general and then he goes back to same old smuggling as he did before, just more bumbling about it. The only credit that I do give is that I did feel that he cared for Leia and Kylo even if he felt he couldn't do much about their separation. Otherwise, I agree...
Yes. I retrospect it just feels like Han in Force Awakens is Empire Strikes Back Han instead of naturally evolving from the character who just wanted to make Leia in Return of the Jedi happy and the one who cares very much about his friends.
Han really did get regressed to a former state of his fucking character DEVELOPMENT just for what?
Probably just the same as everything else, to force back in the exact same status quo as as the original trilogies.... again, but worse.
thats because Jar Jar Abrams is completely and utterly useless at making decent original plots. Its why TFA felt like the bargain bin version of ANH.
JJA: "I dont know how to go on from all of Hans character development so I'll just turn him back into the selfish smuggler he was at the start of ANH...and come to think of it I'll just copy ANH in its entirety. Nobody will be smart enough to notice it, surely"
There would've been lots of options between a settled family man and an active genral, and a total smuggler reset. For example: a grizzled detective type Han constantly searching for his lost best friend Luke and using his contacts throughout the galaxy. Why not start the movie with Han finding the map instead of Poe? Or them being a buddy cop team, with Poe naturally being a Han Solo fanboy (but constantly overshadowing his hero whose age is starting to catch up). It could've been an actually entertaining pairing and Han's motivations would make sense and be true to his character. And if you want a throwback, you got it too as it alludes to Han searching for Luke in the beginning of ESB. Plus Han's introduction wouldn't be as contrived and random as it is in the movie now. Is he seriously more invested in hunting down the Falcon than finding Luke or trying to get to his own son? Han already had his moment of growth when he GAVE UP the Falcon, BACK TO LANDO for him to fly in the battle of Endor. It's just a ship that didn't mean anything for him anymore as long as he had Leia by his side and fought for what he knew was right.
Granted, ROTJ Han is more mellow and "boring" due to his character growing out of his selfish and cocky traits and the script focusing on Luke and Vader, but TFA Han could've been something totally new, but believeable.
Absolutely phenomenal video, almost skipped it after TH-cam auto played it for me, but I’m glad I didn’t. You have such a captivating method of story telling and I look forward to binging some of your uploads later tonight.
Can’t wait for the “What If…” centered around my newest head canon.
Personal favourite “What If” video has to be Star Wars Theory’s “What if Anakin Liked Sand?”
Solid argument. Changes the course of history. A+
How about this one: "What if The Closer Look included The Mandalorian and the 4 part series finale of Clone Wars?"
@@YourPalAlRetroGamer Clone Wars and The Mandalorian didn't help ruin Star Wars, why would he include them?
The Last Jedi single handedly altered lore to tell a different story, and the entire Sequel Trilogy makes everything previous characters have accomplished all for nothing. The sequel trilogy literally killed the franchise. They aren't even making new toys anymore, they stopped production. GL milked that shit for decades, yet Disney ruined it in under one.
@@subsume7904 They are still making Star Wars toys, just significantly less sequel trilogy toys since they are not selling nearly as well as OT, PT, or Mando stuff.
@@themacewens
can you give me proof
My fav what if is "what if the deathstar was a family fun zone with lasertag and dancefights"
Crazy how "just some guy" on the internet has a near perfect timeline of how this Star Wars trilogy should have transpired.
Yes. Been telling people how Disney star wars is cringe
@@thepowerofthegodhand7003 you're not wrong! When The Force Awakens first came out I thought it was mediocre, but that it would just get better from there.
But.
It didn't....
Rey just DID NOT feel believable. She didn't even show signs, in my opinion, that she was a supposedly powerful force user. Choreography was garbage, even if Kylo was the only one that knew how to fight.
The craziest thing is, Finn was hinted to also have Jedi powers in the first film. I know that it would had been a stretch, but giving him some time to be allowed to take a Jedi weapon (he might have found) and just start using it throughout the films, and have it pay off later would be nice. We also do need Po, Finn, Rei, and Kylo to actually join up here or there in some episodes. Like have some moments with Po and Finn, but then later have Finn accompany Rei on missions, while Kylo and Po dog fight some enemies in space together. Then later have Finn and Kylo discuss their thoughts on the Order and if they have doubts while Po sees what is happening to Rei and tries to talk to her about it (which can be one of the many driving forces to have her look herself over in the mirror).
This dynamic would help foster in some fun moments. Basically a majority of the cast would be in the villains shoes most of the time, which isn't common in Star Wars.
I've seen several plot pitches like this online from several different creators. It makes me wonder how in the HELL Disney dropped the ball on this with their nearly unlimited access to talent and resources.
What a shit show.
For a sec, I thought you meant the channel JustSomeGuy.
Your idea of a sequel trilogy, made in a month, made me tear up, which the entirety of Disney's trilogy, made over years, could not make me do.
I cried tears of boredom from the sequel trilogies.
I mean... There were tears, but not for the movie. More for what the movie did to the series
I'm generally not a crier, and this made me come extremely close
definitely got a cryball.
So true
What an absolutely AMAZING video! I loved every single minute of it. The insights into the sequels and actually explaining their flaws and giving solutions to their problems was really interesting, and I loved the alternative sequel trilogy you narrated. All of this told in a very curated way! Congratulations on this amazing job!
“They fly now, they fly now” it’s like jj abrams didn’t know jet packs were a thing in the sw universe
Well JJ kinda forgot about them.
@Fuck Google clone troopers fly in clone wars .
And jet troopers(stormtroopers) fly in rebels .
And yet the main characters of sequels dont know any thing about flying of troopers.
TBF from what I've heard that line was forced by Disney, not JJ, for marketing.
@@Eshtian That makes a lot of sense. It’s pretty obvious this whole movie was made solely because of marketing like the red stormtroopers. I’m pretty sure those were in the movie so target can promote the movie, I think they even have exclusive Sith trooper toys. They were still concerned about people being upset about the last jedi as solo barely performed in the box office.
@@MyGamerforlife I see what u did here ;)
Rebooting Han back to the scoundrel we know him as actually undoes the character development across the original trilogy. Seeing him grow from a criminal that only wants money to an Alliance General is what made the character so compelling.
Sad thing about not reverting Han into a scoundrel is it isn't as fun and interesting.
@@falshion1837 Think how much scoundrel tricks he could use as an Alliance General. He could be the disliked one, the "honourless", yet effective... Imagine Han Solo devising the "ramming" plan, and telling everyone on the room "but i will not be piloting"... (while Akbar step up).
Erico Schroeder interesting!
Question: Who thinks Obi wan should've been the protagonist for the Prequels (so the gut punch of a protagonist becoming evil was lesser)?
Agreed. I differ with Closer Look that they did Han any favors and semi well. Disney and JJ went out of their way to destroy the Han we knew and loved. Dead beat dad, slipped back to being a low level smuggler (and incompetent one at that), lost the Falcon somehow, etc. All of which happened without explanation. It's clear Disney and JJ were desperate to spike the OT characters to push their inferior ones instead of having a natural progression, mentorship, and hand off. Oh who am I kidding? At this point we all know Disney did not have an outline or over arching plan for the sequel trilogy
The Closer Look: "Did you like my pitch? :D"
*me with tears pouring down my face*
"Ye I would say it was pretty good mate, nice job"
:)
I Icried during certain parts of his story (which at best is just a pitch). Most notably when Obi wan was recalling the events of the prequels and Luke realizing that he has become the very thing he swore to destroy.
An edit I would do is instead of having Rey turn back to the light side when she realizes who she's becoming, she instead tries to deny it and embrace her mothers teachings. Even after she knows what she's doing is wrong, the fact that her mother acts like she genuinely cares about her when no one else has. And that makes her want to what ever they want she can just because you want to please them because they were the only one who cared.
And Kylo has to try and make her see that she should follow her own path instead of staying with her evil mother.
The only comparison I can make is Zuko and Iroh but this is obviously way different.
you're not alone I cried too
Yes, that was beautiful, the end scene would have been great
@@underplayer420 this is an very interesting second end where you could actually do a 4th movie wich would start with the explaining that the republic won the war and that kylo knows that rey and her mother were still out there. It would still be during the reparatiobs from the war and while the republic is spilt up and in multiple systems the the remesis of the first order would attak al the students from kylo would need to help him defend the new jedi temple to stop rey get something very important that luke didnt feel because it has only the dark force inside of it. Reys mother feel it from all over the galaxy and sent rey to get it. While the first order only has a few ships left they still overpower the republic fleet that is defending the planet bc everybody is spread about the galaxy and not in any near area (kind of the begining from the 3rd movie of the prequel but we switch between space and the temple). Somehow rey gets the object and escapes to her mother (imagine ten to thirty ships jumping into hyperspace and then 50 ships from the republic apearing and reinforcing the currenty fight). Could be the first scene but I am not a good writer.
I was tearing up throughout your entire pitch. It's such a shame they don't hire fans like you to tell the stories that should be told.
The one I really feel sorry for in this whole mess is Mark Hamill, he's a wonderful actor and his role of Luke essentially catapulted his career sky high and obviously he holds a lot of respect for Star Wars and George Lucas as well, I imagine when the new trilogy was announced he must've been thrilled to have a chance to act as Luke again, this time much older and wiser, both as actor and character. But he so openly thrashed the sequels which is not something you see actors almost ever do. He wanted to be a part of something wonderful and instead watched something he holds very dear to be destroyed and he had to take part in it. From almost every interview I've had a chance to see he seems not mad or disillusioned, he is just legitimately sad it ended up the way it did it breaks my heart.
He still did a fantastic job.
He was hyped to be what Alec Guinness was to him so long ago. He knew obvious he’d be in the mentor role to the protagonist of this era, but that didn’t bother him. Think I remember he said he got himself into shape and the whole nine yards just to be given a 10 second cameo at the ass end of the force awakens. They really did him dirty. The scene of young him staring off into the two evening suns of Tatooine longing for something more than being a moisture farmer will forever the most iconic scene of the whole franchise to me.
Aww feel bad for the bad actor who gets fans groveling at his feet for participating in a shit movie.
BTW he loves the films and hates fans that don't. Go read his tweeter.
@@BoleDaPole You are fake news. Hamill has NEVER said that. 1/10 for bad trolling because you have never read any of his tweets..(It's obvious to anyone who follows him you are full of it.)
Mark Hamill wasn't thrilled to do a sequel. He said "my out will be that Harrison is never going to agree to this".
Dude you had me shed a tear at 1:36:21
The contrast between the story you made, and what Star Wars was is laughable at best
How on earth are big franchise writers so shit?
Big franchise writers are payed to make a great value version of the previously told story.
Because they hire for diversity, and if they can't get that they hire whoever shares their ridiculous opinions. They should be hiring for value instead, but whatever
@@liambrasier6590 What? Am I blind or are JJ Abrams and Rian Johnson both white men?
@@samfann1768 The writers for Lucasfilm are a diversity checklist, even if the directors aren't. Not that it mattered for TLJ in particular.
@@liambrasier6590 Braindead comment tbh
Who got fucked over worse by this trilogy than John Boyega? They marketed the film with his black stormtrooper character and then gave said character zero development and barely more screentime
Disney likes to look like they care about diversity but if anything this trilogy's writing "talent" was too white
11:19 The idea of Han limping, showing his older age while still wanting to be involved in the action is not only incredibly emotional but completely in character. He was all about being a snarky badass and thrived on adventure; this isn't a job, it's his life. Seeing his age catching up to him would tell the audience, without any words, that he's fighting his own expiration date. That is simple, nuanced, sympathetic and adds to his arc perfectly- god, I love it
YEAH WE MADE IT TO SPACE
BUT CANT FIX A LIMP OR CONQUER AGE WHAT A SHAME MEDICINE CEAST TO PROGRESS. NOW THATS SOME FANTASY.
@@stgriff2566 I don't think it's not that they can't fix a limp, but it's more likely that Han would not acknowledge that there was a problem, and as such never try to have it fixed. As to the age thing, most of the research for extending lifespan involves the Force, not medical technology in the Star Wars universe, so it's understandable that it would not have significant progress. Though I personally have a theory that the reason why age is still a problem for most of the humanoid species is that the Hutts and other criminal-aligned species with excessively long life-spans actively shut down any concerted research efforts into improving the life-spans of humanoid species so that they don't have as many competitors in the galaxy.
Yes! Also, psychological wear and tear, trauma and grief, which still would not change the character, but rather give him real world tinge.
Han could have still died but this would’ve made him a hero for suffering through. Not to mention the greatest space cowboy/general ever.
Woke killed The Force
Just saw this and bravo! I found myself having bigger reactions to your rewrite. Loved the plot twist with Rei's mother. That ending was chef's kiss. I really hope that these get made into movies, or even graphic novels. Maybe even an animated series. I also, really enjoy that you don't just offer a critique, but your own solution for the issues. Once more bravo.
The way u scripted the whole “Beg scene” with Kylo and the chancellor was godamn beautiful
It gave me shills
Yeah... But is does make kilos redemption a bit less convincing.... And that is my one problem with Darth Vader, he is saving the life of obi wan in the start of a movie, almost killing him the next...
@@Djsc04 I'm not sure if that was a typo or if you were trying to make a joke.
Ya like holly fuck, it would have been fucking epic
Kylo would of yelled beg the second time in anger and when I thought about that I got chills
Han's exactly how we remember him - definitely not how I remember him. He's exactly as I remember him at the beginning of Episode 4 not at the end of Episode 6. He had a character arc through the OT that saw him go from a self centred, selfish rogue, to a self sacrificing general. He is treated by episode 7 almost as badly as Luke is in 8.
Thank you!! Hans entire character arc was discarded and he was turned into a 66 year old Loser with a failed military and racing career who had to become a smuggler again just to make ends meet. Left his job, Lost his wife, lost his son, lost his ship. And not even for any good story reasons. This alongside not putting ALL THREE OF THE ORIGINAL CHARACTERS on screen together again, is what upsets me the most.
Yes in episode four you could hear how he does not belive any force stuff, while in the end of episode six he knows how great jedi Luke is. Is it that average viewer hates prequals, because it was just bad acting, while had great story, when George Lucas didnt get help in acting the charchters, when if he had got help, like in orginals. The acting would be more better and so prequals more loved, but these sequals just compleately forgot the story and so hard core Star Wars fans hate the sequals, because it had no story and had jokes there that made the movies even more clown like and thats why Star Wars toys are not selling, because the hard core Star Wars fans buy the toys, while average viewers dont care about the toys. If George Lucas could have made the story of sequals and had some help for example Steven Spielberg with acting. The sequals would then become great movies, but instead some stupid little liberal wortheles bald man Ryan Johnson made the sequals.
@@dresdenwarlock7978 I never saw 8 or 9.
And I wish I could I see 7.
FVCK those movies.
i think what EVEVERYONE does not udnerstand, is that 30 years pass between 6-7 and thats more time off screen for character development than all 3 originals movies combined and just like with luke, we are told how his life fell apart after kylo went awol, but what i dont get is why people expect the characters to be EXACTLY the same for no reason at all. like they dont progress downword as people after hardships, which is a completly human thing, but no lol star wars fans wanted the their belopved characters to remain static for 30 years just for their enjoyment.
I will say tho, they could have done a dozen things differently while sticking with the core concept that kylo killed the padawans and that fucked with everyone and caused some negative progression to take place and it probabaly would have been recieved a little better.
I had the biggest most smug grin imaginable when you started tearing down the sequel movies dreadful world building.
Building? Nah, it is more of a poorly made carbon copy.
@@liaml.e.5964 More of a cheap knockoff made in some sweatshop.
Yep
i think that will go down as one of the biggest issues, and TFA having literally ZERO things happen, just expecting the next film to carry the entire story from a start point where there's literally 2 hours of filler
I actually answered all the question's as he is possibly smugging to himself thinking that he found some refutable evidence. Except that all these questions have been ansered in the FIRST movie.
for example. Is the first order a small faction or a large faction? Small faction. Stated in the first movie of the sequal trilogy.
Why didn't they built a navy instead of starkiller? Limited resources. So they decided to built one death canon that soaks up energy from the sun instead of creating new energy and deliver that first blow in a desperate attempt to destroy the enemy.
Why didn't the New republic do anything? The new republic didn't want another war and only saw the first order as a fringe group.
All of the question he so smugly spouts can be explained. Yes explained poorly with not much logic placed into them. But they CAN be answered.
Great job on the video. I felt for the longest time that the world building was dull. You expressed this so well in this video. Bravo.
The section when you were talking about Kylo Ren making the President beg, it's actually sounds terrifying and I can easily picture that in my head.
@@charley15z lol, still better than that harry potter fanfic that JK rowling okayed. (forgot the name, something child. no, it is not fantastic beasts, I refer to the book one)
Donald Bothe The Cursed Child
"The prophecy only became true because your father believed that it would" is such a powerful line.
Really addresses the core issue too
Yes!!!!!!
And I LOVE how this brings up the opportunity for Luke to know about and not make the same mistake as we watched his father make in the prequels. Poetry.
Your 30 minutes version spoken made me feel more emotions than watching 3 whole movies... you made me cry man, that was beautiful
That tells you how bad the Sequels were
The end almost had me in tears with the Jedi of old, especually Luke, standing in pride to what Kylo and Ray have become.
I ain't gotten to that part of the video yet so IDK if he mentioned this; but I would have really, really loved it if while Rey was with Luke in the second film she expresses doubt about her prowess with the Force compared to her enemies, saying that she can only try, to which Luke responds with Yoda's "Do or do not, there is no try."
Realizing those movies will never be is ... something.
To me, it felt like the prequels expanded upon the universe, giving things more depth and gave Easter eggs or nostalgia bait things that were actually important or were presented with love. The sequels just felt small, felt like I had already seen them a million times but with the originals and prequels, it feels like I'm watching them for the first time, like there is more behind the curtains that is happening that I can't see. The sequels had no moments that felt like an impact to the story that was happening, it just felt bland. Like even though some lines from the prequels were bad, they had merit, the lines had purpose and required you to pay attention but more importantly the prequels and the originals felt like they were created because someone had an itch to tell a story that he had never heard before, that he brought something that expanded our imagination but the sequels just destroyed that, burnt everything and are trying to pretend like they care while they do it. There's a huge difference between the Original Trilogy and the Prequel Trilogy to the Sequel Trilogy. Both Original and Prequel were created by people who wanted to tell a story about love, jealousy, hate, spite, complacency, loss, hope and the Sequels were created by people who just wanted to get their names involved in Star Wars to make a dollar.
Closer: "Let's look at one of the most beloved sequels of all time..."
Me: "Shrek 2"
Closer: "Terminator 2"
Me: "Terminator 2"
Ah yes a schaffrillas productions fan. I approve :)
Shrek 2 one of the best sequels. Shrek also a franchise that is continued to be talked about today.
The Dark Knight??!!
Terminator 2
Empire Strikes Back
The Bride of Frankenstein
The Dark Knight
The Road Warrior
No particular order, off the top of my head, but I think these right here are the elite sequels
Ryan Tiller The Godfather 2
That setup of Dooku becoming terrified of the extragalactic threat is masterclass sci-fi writing. It’s not fair Disney made the sequels and not you
It's actually pretty terrible writing. Not the story bit itself, but the way it's implemented into the movie. Told through a (long) hologram sequence? Come on, that would make no sense given how holograms work (can't show multiple times and spaces from a person's perspective if they weren't recorded) and horrible to watch as you've had to look on a table with some blue light emitted to it for quite some time (if I haven't misunderstood something and the part isn't then shown as a flashback... which would still be impossible, since why should Luke see Dooku's perspective of all those moments?).
@Ambar42 You did miss something: The flashback within the hologram scene. Luke would just see Count Dooku giving a report via hologram, but the action scene part which prompted Dooku to make that hologram report would be a flashback scene for us viewers.we come back to the hologram when Dooku apologized to Master Yoda for failing him. He hasn't felt that since he was a child but he admitted he felt afraid.
That is what you missed. St most 5 minutes of the video. You lost focus for a solid 3 minutes of that.
Timestamps:
1:21:30 - Luke finds the hologram
1:22:25 - 1:25:30 - The Flashback scene
1:26:09 - 2nd Hologram w/ Walking because *Yes, holograms can show walking conversations that were recorded* & as a bonus that scene could be shown to the audience as a flashback too, showing the droi 1:25:31 droids recording the conversations as they walked.
Because a *flashback* is a scene showing the audience something out of sequence a.k.a. something that has already happened yet didn't affect the story until now. Flashbacks are not inherently memories.
@@Ms.Amylia_Clenny Ok. Thanks.
Star Wars should have no flashbacks. Zero. Period.
Where was that on screen? It wasn’t.
This is where Star Wars lives. Not in greedy corporations, but in the hearts and minds of fans. Thanks for the better story. As far as I'm concerned, it's canon now.
same
No joke, I was more entertained by hearing that rewrite than I was by actually watching the sequels. Can't even remember if I've seen all of the sequels... just lost interest.
Canon nope
IT'S NEO ARMSTRONG'S JET CLONE DEATH STAR
@@itchytriggyfinger6590 Did you just shoot at Obi Wan Gintoki?
Hey, really beautifully done video man. You blew my mind on a lot of small details in the Star Wars universe that shouldn’t have been executed on the new trilogy.
Really love your pitch for the revised trilogy as well. Such a shame we got what we did when we have talent like you who can really give us the stories we crave and deserve.
Your version of the the sequels was so good that only watching the ride of the Rohirrim could fill the void that took over my thoughts as I finished your video. That scene when Luke redeemed the entire Jedi Order would have been a cinematic highlight for years to come. It's truly sad how the Star Wars franchise was treated.
Indeed. Or, as one infamous individual would say: "Unfortunately for Disney, history will not see it that way."
By the way, I love your content!
Meanwhile, the developers behind Titanfall and CoD did a better job in a single game
“Treated” lololol yeah okay like the franchise has been shot on
@@gregwoods6434 it was.
Again, you claim it was good and your entitled to your opinion, no one I've shown this video to has liked his version. Myself included, I stand by my statement the guy needs to learn how to tell stories. You have to have clear points and not just oh hey I think this makes good sense here so i'll insert it here.
Your trilogy rewrite brought tears to my eyes. Not because it was beautifully written but it shows just how dead and hollow they’ve made Star Wars compared to how we could’ve felt.
I wonder why they didn’t even try to see people’s reactions first.
But there were people who loved 7 when it came out. I felt insulted when I saw it.
But the re writte is also good
Yeah I 100% agree. I bet The Closer Look isn’t even as much of a hardcore fan as many of the people watching this video, but solely the care and respect with which he treats both the original movies as well as the prequels in his rewrite shows that he is very capable as a writer.
@@moyu8636 Those people never understood what Star Wars meant.
Re-writting Kylo as a pride-obsessed maniac instead of a whining child would be so much better
He could have been a zuko. But noooo
I dont even know what kylo's goal was, take over the galaxy because vader kinda did that? Turn rey evil because power?
I would like more if Kylo just stayed and died as sith it would give a memorable lesson about that not everyone can be redemed.
@@kacperaskawski3461 After seeing the terrible way he died, I'd have to agree. On the other hand, he would go down as the worst sith in history.
@@pumkin610 yep but at least he wouldn't be just emo, discount Vader.
I imagined the whole film in my head, all the possibilities, it was such a wonderful ride! When you said "the credits roll", I almost shed a tear. That was the most amazing ending it could possibly had!
If Jar Jar had walked out from behind some curtains and claimed to be both Rey and Kylo's father, I think the whole story would've been more believable and would've made more sense.
Meesa make yousa with genetic engendering
@@gorg6151 this made me giggle
okay, that'd be a top tier shitpost that'd have me laughing for a solid 10min until I release they're being serious.
@@gorg6151 "Yousa knows what theysa says abouts males with lengthy tongues?" *Tongue wave*
or I'd probably believe that I was trippin' on something. lmao
Kylo: “I’ll destroy Mandalore”
Clone Wars Fans: “NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!”
Fans of Olde Mandalorians: "Weren't proper Mandalorians anyway."
@@undertakernumberone1 Statement: You show excellent logical skills... for a meatbag.
@@undertakernumberone1 oh yes
Obi-Wan: Your clone wars and David Filoni have already done that!
honestly at that point in the edited timeline mandalore would probably be it’s own faction that took over the remains of the hutt clan
"I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed."
-Parents
-Also, Star Wars Fans
@Wparker6804 I'm just really sad that they squandered what they were given. They basically threw the Skywalker saga straight into the trash.
I'm just glad it's over.
Oh we're angry alright. If somebody takes a big dump on your porch and then tells you that you're evil for not noticing his genius, that's no longer disappointment. That's anger about a roundhead that needs a beating.
@@jthomas6672 fear leads to hatred not anger. You can be angry at something or someone but not fear them, but if you hate someone you almost always fear them in someway
@@jthomas6672 Yoda isnt a real prophet bro. Think about it in a real world scenario. Fear leads to hatred
I was suprisingly really in to your own story than the other star wars movies from disney more. Really shows how such valueable efforts in storybuilding shines a light in the story itself. You really outdone yourself more than other film writers nowadays 👍
30:30 my favourite one of those has got to be: "what if Obi wan did buy the deathsticks"
Quality video
Mine is “What if Anakin liked sand”
What if it was a surprise to be sure, but not a welcome one
The fact that you got some of us tearing up by just listening to your version of the story, I think, speak volumes about the talent that you have, and the RESPECT for the franchise in an equal level. THANKS for giving us this sequel narrative, this will be canon for me.
Y'all are such midwits
I thought to myself that I was being silly for tearing up while listening to a pitch for a rewrite that will never happen but it is simply so fucking good 😭😭😭😭
@@donjuanmckenzie4897 correction; you're a midwit
Just Let people enjoy what they want, and stop acting like a midwit
@@InquiziDor001 I thought I was the only one tearing up while listening to this wonderful story.
Honestly, I'd rather we still had George's sequels. I wasn't TOO happy with this fan re-write, but that's just me
I love how stupendously livid Palpatine was over Mace disfiguring him.
This is more in character than anything in the sequals. Tbh the anti jedi propaganda might be the best part of his rewrite :O so in character for sidious to do something lile that.
Petty Palpatine as a treat
@@oskardanigsecher9906 This is actually completely out of character really and a misunderstanding of what happened that day.
Palpatine wasn't disfigured by Mace, he was always disfigured from his use of the Dark Side. Mace revealed it breaking the alchemy performed to guise the corruption, which Palpatine then used for his purposes to draw sympathy and claim it as an attack by the Jedi. The novelization, which has changes only where Lucas asked for them, has Windu barely holding it back, asking for help, the lightning nearly breaking through the lightsaber, then Palpatine relents, vies for Anakin's assistance and cries about weakness using his appearance for sympathy of his dear friend to which he was practically a father.
Palpatine is not a vain character, he doesn't adore his appearance, he sees everything, including himself, as a tool for his own purposes. He needed to appear the humble gentle aged father/grandfather figure to the galaxy and Anakin and some others of the Jedi Order as Senator and Chancellor Palpatine who was the hero that kept the Republic intact, he then calmly considered the effects and could use the disfigurement to show himself a victim yet strong leader to garner sympathy for himself and animosity against the Jedi as Emperor, and later use it further to his advantage. His hatred is not limited to such a petty squabble as Windu, no, his wrath and rancor is a grander scale, a scale infinite in scope, yet boiled down to a single focus on a goal - the death of the Jedi Order and the rule of the Sith.
This aspect still works, in that Palpatine would definitely show Mace Windu for his attempt to kill Palpatine but it would be less personal, more strategic. After all, Palpatine recorded Windu's attempt to arrest him.
@@oskardanigsecher9906 No, it makes absolutely no sense, whatsoever. The Jedi's reputation would have been one of the first things for the New Republic to restore after the Empire's fall. Luke, their greatest hero, is a Jedi, after all, also they of course would fix how history is told in the galaxy after the Empire has rewritten it through lies. Apart from that all of the galaxy's older generations would still remember the good deeds of the Jedi so the truth would spread, no matter how the Empire tried to propagate a different narrative.
@@Ambar42 Honestly this can make for another interesting conflict between the republic and First order, assuming that in "The Closer look"s rewrite both Republic and 1st Order are about equally powerful factions, where both sides are rewriting history in their own way.
The Republic glorifying Jedis and Jedi order as these flawless, noble heroes and peacekeepers while the First order kept Palpatine's version of history preserved, or maybe bend it further for their benefit, showing the Jedi as manipulative monsters who abducted and groomed children into emotionless soldiers, with what is considered as "accurate history" in a sector/galaxy/area depending on what faction governs it.
It can make for another showcase of the Republic and 1st order's conflict and expand the world further IMO
I think that part 4 really shows, what a great writer you are.
Just listening to the alternate story you made up for the trilogy, captured my imagination and my emotions more than viewing it onscreen ever did.
the idea of Luke having to tearfully reveal who Rey's real mother is could totally echo the "no I am your father scene" except now Luke is in the place of Vader. Rey would be so shocked and hurt, she would have the same reaction to Luke finding out who his dad was! And Luke would feel so terrible that he is in this position of having to hurt her like Vader hurt him!!!! Wow, that would be so cool.
Imagine being 1 sole TH-cam creator and writing a story that would have quadrupled Disney's current net worth.
Ik right
Just goes to show how far Disney has fallen. It is less than a shell of its former self,
@@pippleyfisching9214 they are so detached from the very fans they claim to pandering to.
Surprised Disney's not hired him yet XD
I'm just going to call the latest trilogy a professionally made fanfiction
Tbhat is an insult to fanfiction
@@TeylaDex agreed.
Every other fan fiction I saw was better than the sequels
@@lordrevan5601 yep. I mean, theres also a lot of objectively bad fanfiction out there, but even those brought joy to at least the author. So they have still more worth than the new trilogy.
But JJ and Rian clearly arent fans of star wars so it cant be a fan fic
@@clearedmammal5874 exactly.
I had some tearing up when we mentioned Luke entering the Jedi temple in awe and wonder and that incredible build up to the horror of the Holocron messages.
In legends, Luke was a proud and successful Jedi warrior who was happily married to an equally awesome woman (who had a great arc of her own), had a son, and embarked on numerous missions throughout the galaxy. In the sequel trilogy, he became a bitter hermit and died shortly after he was found. Even though legends is far from perfect, I think most people agree the legends Luke was a lot better.
The only book of the EU that I found was when Luke met Mara and I really liked the book and her as a character.
Made me very sad when Disney said that it was no longer cannon...and then mad when there was that random push for gender politics
He was also a very powerful force wielder and lightsaber duelist who created a new stronger jedi order and taught new jedi not to fear the dark side but to accept it as the force. but where is all that building up to where he is living out the rest of his life learning from ancient jedi
but aren't the jedi supposed to be celibate?
@@kangwamaster4638 I really don't care what Disney said. Why should we accept that this empty husk of a overly long merchandise commercial of a trilogy replaced decades of expanded universe stories? Nah fuck them, the EU is canon in my book.
@@brotbrotsen1100 I mostly agree with you, the one thing I say disney SHOULD have done was clean up legends because lets be honest with ourselves here, legends had problems as well, whilst I think legends should still be cannon, as it is it isn't perfect
The worldbuilding is exactly why I love the prequels. Not as a movie, but as a setting for our imagination.
The prequels felt much more of a fantasy world, felt more like Star Wars. The sequels didn’t really do this.
Episode 3 was my favorite
Even with the issues with the prequels, they did greatly expand the world, generally very creative and builds up to the OT.
Like Coruscant was a FANTASTIC idea! In a fantasy epic where society is spread across different planets, it makes perfect creative sense that one of them has to be a central hub. And its made even better by the fact that Lucas didn’t just make it this shining metropolis, but he gave it its slums, and factories, and dinky corner-street diners 👌🏻
Same
To me, the trilogy kind of felt like Disney is just showing off. "Look, we have Chewbacca! Look, we have lightsabers! Look, we have R2D2 and C3PO! Look, we have Han Solo and Lando! Look, we killed Han Solo!" But you know what? I can't remember any of the new heroes names. Look, Disney: I have a middle finger!
DX did a really good critique of the sequels. The biggest problem with these movies is that they assumed Star Wars was defined by its surface-level elements (e.g. lightsabers, spaceships, the force, aliens, establishment oppressors, Skywalkers, Palpatines, and giant planet-destroying lasers), when in fact the TRUE appeal of Star Wars is how its story has many parallels to real-world concepts which we can RELATE to (e.g. Jediism=religious disciplines, the empire=space Nazis, Luke=a young farmer boy who joins a war effort, Revenge of the Sith=the collapse of once-great democracies, Vader killing the Emperor=rejecting the devil, Luke not giving into dark side temptations=not making the wrong choices in life, Ewoks=noble savages, Anakin=borderline personality disorder, Padme's relationship with Anakin=abusive relationship with unstable partner, etc.).
Honestly even NC has a good point in his video on the prequels being better since they were still the vision of Lucas and not a corporation and that's what the sequels are that a corporate decision while the prequels are just lucas doing what he wanted
@@adastial2104 yet NC still made fun of Mark Hamill talking about how they ruined Lukes Character.
@@jonah_da_mann i see your point, but Anakin was never abusive to Padmé
Vader was abusive to Padmé
@@david-bd8op Anakin is vader, man. If anakin and vader are different people, why would vader ever have any incentive to hate the jedi? why would vader have any affention towards luke when the emperor was electrocuting him? why would vader care about padme and her dying? its just obi wans bullshit philosophy
I love this video. I got teary eyed when you mentioned the dozen force ghosts at the end 🥹
“Let’s look at what is probably the most beloved sequel of all time.”
Me: SHREK 2???!!!
"The most beloved *non-animated* sequel of all time" Fixed
Please because I thought the same
I thought the dark knight
I swear I could see Shaffrillas sweating when he mentioned a perfect Sequel
@@cogahan me too 😅
the pain and dissapointment caused to mark makes me cry honestly. he was the biggest fan of star wars out of all of us. he was in a way our leader, president of the fandom. and he loved luke and the story maybe more than most of us. and to see him, his life, teenage and adulthood, ripped from him in such a way. heartbreaking.
@Ryan Irwin- Diehl did i ask? move along.
@@liynne 😂😂😂 respect ✊🏽
51:30 The entirety of that exchange with Kylo and the President was great
ikr, it shows the potential kylo could have had, I loved it. He could have been such a good villain, snoke too, but they had nothing to show for their actions, no motivation, to me, snoke was just a pawn, I wouldn't even call him a villain because he did nothing "villain like"
Fully fleshed out, well though out and with cinematics and music to boot? Hell yeah, as himself says in the video, they were good movies, beautiful cinematography.. but poor sequels.
Beggars belief how they butchered it given source material.
They were like, No, Adam Driver can't be a villain. I think that's the only reason they didn't make him a big bad and make a grey villain who became good in the end.
Why?
Well, I have a very small brain, and when I heard that scene and imagined it I was blow away.
Oh man. Your version was incredible. After seeing the characters, especially Luke treated so terribly by Disney, to see someone who actually cares and is a good writer do something that carries the story forward and not just teleports it to some random spot in left field is just refreshing. I really needed that.
I was troubled by one part though. I know we want to hit a downbeat in the second movie, that's just a gimme. I don't know if Luke dying then was the right call. It's great but I wanted more from him than realizing he was a bad mentor. We need to see how powerful he really is. This is Luke near prime and I don't think we're gonna get that out of one sacrificial act unless he contains a supernova with the force or something. 😂 We have to see even him barely making it against the Youzhong Vong. Challenged in combat, challenged in mentorship. We have to show the orders of magnitude difference between a jedi knight like even Obi-Wan and Luke, son of the chosen one, and without massively debilitating injuries. And we really need to see his relationship with Leia, his twin sister. I love Han retiring. Chewie trying to convince him he's still got some good years in him. Chewie heartbroken because wookies live much longer. Like watching your old dog age. Leia got such a good treatment in Obi-Wan. I want to see more of her political acumen in the spotlight. A force user as strong as her but as a force for society. Running circles around her opponents, handling dissent, charming everyone around her. Honestly, there's way more than enough story for 2 sequel trilogies.
God I hope AI hurries up and we can tell it what movies we want. 😂
The Clone Wars are considered one of the coolest eras of star wars by most fans, the OT is incredibly nostalgic, and no one cares about the sequels.
Like I told many friends, I'm emotionally attached the OT, extremely immersed in the lore of the Prequels and couldn't care less for the Sequels. Force Awakens was enjoyable, despite being a pseudo-Ep.4, but the rest nearly destroyed my love for the franchise.
Edit: Anything Legends is also insanely amazing, as are the games. I still dream of the Old Republic era on the big screen or as a TV show.
@@TheNameCannotBeFound I agree.
I grew up in the 70's and 80's and Star Wars, for me, was a defining cinematic masterpiece. I watched them over and over, bought the toys, lunch boxes, shirts, Halloween costumes . . . . The prequels left a bit of a bad taste as did all of Lucas's tinkering with the original trilogies by adding in all sorts of CGI crap as the fault of Lucas was, for me, in showing us a story with great visuals instead of telling us a story with great visuals. In the sequels. I am being shown interesting worlds and ships with little backstory or explanation and plot and characters that may indeed check off the necessary boxes of good storytelling (like character development) but do so in such a terrible fashion and with absolutely no regard for Star Wars' fans or history. Look at Hamill's reaction in his statement to Rian. That right there is a man troubled by what he acted in. His voice faltered, and he genuinely looked distressed and dare I say disappointed while Rian Johnson nods his head. He has no idea.....got his benjamin's and doesn't care.
I saw Last Jedi once, and have no desire to watch it again, nor Rise of Skywalker.
After all, this was the only real war we saw in "Star WARS". :D
i just got too attached to Clone bois so i just hug my prequels and clone wars show
And the prequals are only really remembered because of clone wars.
Jesus Christ man, I want your version of the sequel trilogy so bad, that was masterful
That has the potential to be amazing.
I wish it was the actual plot of the sequel
Was just thinking the same thing
Nailed it, righteous
If Disney could remake the movies as a revised trilogy following these ideas I think people might have some more faith in them.
To be honest, I think the most interesting direction to take from a world-building perspective would have been for the sequels to have taken place in a geopolitically shattered galaxy.
After all, just because you kill the Emperor doesn't mean the Empire itself will magically transform itself into a functioning republic again. Instead of the New Republic becoming the reigning power, it could have been simply first among equals, with the rest of the galaxy broken between Moffs-turned-warlords, Hutt Cartels and Black Sun carving off their own domains, Mandalorians going a-conquering yet again: everyone and anyone, rushing to fill the power vacuum left in the interregnum of the Empire.
This way, you don't make everything which happened during the Original Trilogy worthless, and you get to explore themes wholly different from the Original Trilogy, yet directly resulting from its consequences. It's one thing to tear down oppressive power structures, but it's another thing entirely to build new ones to replace them. This gives a pathway for character development, both for new characters and old ones.
And instead of resurrecting the Sith (thereby undercutting Anakin's character arc), the story can focus on the hard, messy, often tragic task which is rebuilding in the aftermath of tyranny. Rather than feeling the need to artificial raise stakes with Death Star knock-offs, the characters can instead contest not with clear-cut villains, but with antagonists with perfectly understandable, perhaps even justifiable reasons for the actions they commit. Imagine if the First Order was a faction of former Imperials genuinely trying to restore order, rather than a clearly irredeemable cult of sci-fi Neo Nazis? Imagine if other coalitions of planets like the New Republic formed, but along ideological/sectarian lines different from them, resulting in a cold war? Or rogue factions of the Rebellion who didn't want to restore the Republic at all, for fear of creating another Empire.
And through it all, Luke could be struggling to rebuild the Jedi Order, while still working to preserve peace in the galaxy, while balancing political concerns as elements within the New Republic try to use him and the Order for their own ends. Rather than struggles with the Dark Side, Luke could be struggling to protect his students from trials for which they are not yet ready, while still trying to uphold his responsibility to the vulnerable as a Jedi, and while still sussing out for himself what it even means to *be* a Jedi.
There were so many different directions the story could have gone this way, without rehashing either the Prequels or the Sequels, or betraying the successes the characters therein achieved, and has the added advantage of being a realistic picture of what actually happens when empires die. I dunno, perhaps it's too adult for an franchise that's supposed to be accessible to kids, but I think it would have been cool.
That’s such a good idea!! I actually might try to do a sequel rewrite off of this idea... I’ll credit you :)
In my mind I can see that in the years since the empire fell, there was a massively divisive conflict in the galaxy over who controlled regions. Different groups rise like you say... an imperial split leaves the new republic at the core and with little territory around it, so they work with willing moffs and governors, allowing them to keep territory; meanwhile the more dedicated imperials form the first order to consolidate their own space, and begin work on a defense station for systems under their protection, using materials from the already carved out planet of Ilum ; Mandalore leads a group called the League of Independent Systems (those who wish to self rule independent of any other faction and if threatened by one can call on the other members for help; any systems that can provide aid in a situation but don’t can be removed from the league and not allowed any aid themselves) ; other factions like the black sun, and the Chiss take control of their own regions ; after enough time the conflict mostly dies down as the borderlines are established; the factions are each about matched in power so the borders are static for the most part; however any apparent weaknesses in the borders are immediately exploited by nearby factions to gain power, because each wants to take enough to overcome the others and rule the galaxy, or at least more of it. Ruling factions rely on their systems for strength and supplies, and thus offer protection to newcomers.
Imagine the first order not being nazis like you say, and helping people. with the borders mostly settled it’s more like the Cold War than WWII, each faction spying and performing military maneuvers to threaten each other.
The first order’s defense station is discovered by new republic espionage, and battles resume along their borders as the new republic, in an alliance with the League, move to infiltrate First Order space and eliminate the threat of hyperspace laser bombardment (bc destroying more planets is just lazy, say it just has a powerful and precise hyperspace laser system to target military bases and fleet shipyards).
Imagine the attack on the defense station leaves it crippled but not destroyed at the end (or maybe as the beginning) of the first movie, so the first order desperately tries to retake it and rebuild the damage, sending in their fleet to battle around ilum and the station, and to cut off the penetrating supply chains into their space that keep the new republic forces supplied enough to keep the system suspended between the control of either faction.
As for the characters:
Luke is trying to rebuild the Jedi from a destroyed reputation, and because they are outlawed in some regions must be careful in his movements. He acts as a vigilante to keep peace outside each factions law, and trains more Jedi, hoping to prove to the galaxy that the Jedi can indeed bring peace and minimize hardship.
You could have Han trying to continue his old life as a smuggler but feeling guilt over the loss of his son, who he was never close enough with at the most vulnerable parts of his development and therefore wasn’t emotionally ready to be a Jedi; Kylo, drawn to the dark side during his training with Luke, partially under the influence of snoke, and realizing that the darkness has potential to help people, though without realizing the full force of its effects on him as he uses it more. He betrays Lukes trust while leading one group of his Jedi on a mission in one system when they have to split up; Luke finds the bodies of some who were in that group and realizes the rest went with kylo. He takes on the new mission of tracking down Kylo before he can become a major threat, with the Jedi he has left.
You have Leía, a higher up in the new republic senate, returning to military authority to conduct the infiltration, and desperately trying to maintain the fight around ilum and keep the support of the League.
Then you could have Finn, still a first order trooper, traumatized after the bloodbath of his unit fighting earlier in the border disputes, force sensitive and fearing his chain of command that ends in dark side users, and who finally snaps and deserts after another traumatic fight on one of the moons of another planet in the Ilum system in one of the initial fights.
You could have Rey, a small time scavenger who wanted to see the galaxy and travel, getting caught up in Han’s falcon crew and eventually the fight around ilum.
The plot lines would all converge: Luke wants to help Finn after sensing his presence in the force while tracking down Kylo, because he senses his potential in force power and his will do to good in the universe; snoke wants him as well for his power, and commands kylo to bring him in as a final test for kylo’s entry into the ranks of military leadership of the Order; Han and Rey are forced into seeking help from the league to escape a smuggling debt situation with crimson dawn (who have taken over hutt space since the collapse of the hutts and jabba’s death, and are allies of the first order) and appeal to Bo Katan, who is leading Mandelore, having come to understand her sisters ideals more in the hardship of a civil war following the empires collapse, and in the faction conflict. In return for settling debts, Han is tasked with carrying supplies alongside a mandelorian escort ship to ilum, where he reunites with leía on the front lines, and is able to finally reconnect with his old friend Luke after his years of chasing the trail of Jedi appearances.
Wow I just wrote a ton but those are all the initial thoughts racing through my head... I’ll try and consolidate them better in an actual draft of it!
@@willmungas8964 That first draft will be crazy! This is a novel idea, but like original poster said, there isn't much kid appeal. I'd love it, but I'm not sure there'd be much opportunities for a line of toys out of this haha.
The more I read comments like yours and Will's, the more irritated I become from seeing how Disney squandered the potential of the sequels.
This is fucking GOLDEN idea dude. Yes. YAAAASSSSS. I want to hear more.
Who are you're characters? Are you taking anything with you from the Sequel trilogy?
This deserves a fucking chat dude. Are you on Reddit?
WHEN/ WHERE ARE YOU GUYS PUBLISHING ?
Fuck me... This was a bit of a rollercoaster to watch. First I thought I'd have a light hearted fun time watching someone wipe their behind with the trilogy that killed of a part of my childhood. However it ended up being emotional and depressing at the thought of what could have been, had someone like you been handed the rains to the franchise. Brilliant work, mate. 👌
*removes glasses*
My god... he did it. He added proper conflict and character development to the sequels
Exactly. I would LOVE to watch that story unfold!
guys can we just pretend the sequel trilogy was a fever dream and go with this version?
Please
wdym this is the sequel trilogy
That’s what I’ve been doing for months 😂
I really hope someone in Disney step up and says "let's pretend than never happened" and restarts the sequels. Yeah, I know how bad everyone thinks of Disney, but they do have some nice films and cartoons. Oh, and dont let J J Abrams film anything important
yes
Gotta disagree with your point that Abrams respected the Han Solo character in TFA. His version of Han regressed the character, undoing the lovely arc in the original trilogy where Han learns to abandon his selfish nature and becomes a leader of the Rebellion. When Han thinks Leia is in love with Luke in ROTJ, Han is ready to step aside for her happiness. That's a huge moment for him because we can see that's he's ready to let go of his selfish ways and give up something he cares about for the sake of his friends and it completes his arc in that trilogy. In TFA, Han has left Leia and gone back to his smuggling ways. He's abandoned the idea of helping his son, becoming a dead beat dad, and has left his wife to grieve and manage on her own so he can go back to his criminal life at the age of sixty-whatever. He's become the Han we meet at the beginning of ANH. That doesn't respect the character at all. It unravels all he learned in the original trilogy and destroys his character growth. Han, Luke, and Leia in TFA are all stuck doing exactly what they were doing at the beginning of ANH. They are competely regressed. Terrible writing with no sensitivity to what's come before.
Also, Han Solo died a villains death, ignominiously stabbed and tossed down a hole.
You either die a hero or live long enough for JarJar Abrams to butcher your character.
@@hariman7727 like Palpatine!
@@deborahminter6231 and Darth Maul.
And Asaaj Ventress.
Literally couldn’t agree with this more.
It was never a question of the fans versus the story. The fans cared about the quality and continuity of the story.
SOMEONE PLEASE LET HIM DIRECT A NEW TRILOGY AND BURY THE OLD ONE
Let the past die.
I totally agree lol this guy has some great ideas
Kill it if you have too
Every time i see that scene of the fleet being destroyed by 1 single ship jumping in the hyperspace, my heart bleeds
@@raf.nogueira same! It totally breaks cannon, and how the heck do they all split perfectly down the center? I’d get it if the center one did and the others were pushed away but it’s so illogical it hurts
Just put it in legends lol
I enjoyed this rewrite of the sequels way more than I enjoyed the actual sequel films
Yeah, the rewrite was fire.
I liked it a lot too but I think it would've been cool if the sequels ended with kylo and ren establishing a grey Jedi order after learning from the mistakes of the original trilogy of the balance too far evil, and the prequels where the balance was too far good, or maybe that since Kylo Ren is directly connected through blood to those stories that's the epiphany he has when he decides to save the Jedi kids in this rewrite. I think that'd be dope
I almost wish I never heard this rewrite. I can never let his brilliant idea go now :(
Just listening to this was better than watching the movies
It gave me chills
I even cried a little
I shed a fuckin' tear at the end of the new script pitch. God damn it, Disney...
Agreed. I hope this can replace the last 3 movies.
It was almost the catharsis I needed.