My father told me that when I was a few years old, he lost his job in the 80s during the recession. It was Christmas time and he didn't have enough money to buy any gifts for the family, let alone enough food. Barely able to pay the rent. He was so ashamed of himself that he went to church and confessed to the priest that he was failing as a father and provider for his family. The priest heard him, reached into his pocket and gave him $40 and said, "Go get your baby a gift and hold your head up high for you are a great man."
then you're a gullible fool to simply accept an idea as being "true" or factual on face value, without actually examining the claims and any the evidence for those claims. Make your OWN mind up. Gods remain an unsubstantiated claim with ZERO supporting evidence,... after thousands of years.
@phil Dodd love is a human construct driven solely by a chemical response. What are you attempting to say? Besides there is only one true love and it’s objective not subjective.
@@godswill2260 God's are a human construct driven soley by a chemical response. Is the One "true" love, the love of being alive and able to think for ourselves,. or the love of a parent for a child, What are you attepting to say,. that You know the truth,.. but are also convinced that there are gods.? what evidence can you present for your claims.
I remember somebody once warned me to stay clear of another person. They said, "He's a black hole." That always stuck with me as a terrifying description of narcissism.
What I appreciate about Barron is he’s able to speak with the smartest or the more simplistic without changing his tact. Those who are less informed about Catholicism he’s able to take a easiest approach but get his convictions heard.
Sex always sells. Have you ever seen cola commercials from South America? I will say it again, sex always sells. It’s the association that is the tail end detriment.
I’m an atheist, but I try to give credit where it’s due. Robert Barron is a very bright and thoughtful man. I enjoyed listening to his insights. At the risk of offending some, I can’t help but notice that I’m usually more impressed with the philosophizing of Catholic thinkers when compared to thinkers of other branches of Christianity.
I don’t know but I would guess Barron is a Jesuit thinker. I was born and raised in Catholic schools. I never thought much of it until I got to a Jesuit college. If you’re interested in hearing more rational Catholic speakers, find the Jesuit place in your area. I think you’d be surprised at what you hear from them and the faith
I like what you said.. That’s exactly what drew me to the church! Deep, philosophical conversations and I loved the integration of science into theology. Great stuff I’m glad you’re watching
That’s exactly my trouble. I can’t discuss anything with Christians - they just “know,” and insist I believe their way or I’m simply wrong. There’s no debate or discussion, just a statement of facts. While I don’t fancy the catholic church and the darkness it’s covered up, their philosophers are pretty articulate. I wish more people in the churches could reason and play devil’s advocate without getting flustered or troubled - those who do evidence the weakness of their faith or the understanding therein.
I love Bishop Barron’s dog analogies. He once explained suffering like a dog being taken to the vet for a shot. You can try to explain why he needs a shot, but a dog will never understand why the person he loves the most is letting this happen to him. Lightbulb moment for me.
Deep statement. We just took our dog in for a paw surgery. Being an active breed, cattle dog, she had to be reduced to laying around, only short walk in the backyard to use the bathroom, and back in. Wrapped the pad, changing it all the time, etc. you are absolutely right they don’t understand but I feel they trust you in a way and know you aren’t trying to hurt them. Just like we trust God during suffering moments. My wife often feels as if God abandons us in hard times. It’s interesting how in the Bible, it’s often the woman who doubts a bit more. I wonder why this is? I need to think about this more. Maybe it’s the job of a man to take on the burden more for the family. Not sure. I know JP talks a lot that women have more neuroticism as a personality trait because of protecting infants and they have to be awake to threat and danger. That could be where some more doubt comes from. Have a nice weekend, my dog is looking at me now and she wants to go for a walk and play. Heaven for both of us, in a way. Lost in the moment. I’m also a bird photographer so that’s where everything else falls away when I’m out in nature, heaven in a sense.
I really need to see this today. I've been struggling with jealousy and anger a lot lately, and now I am contemplating about how they are both the fruits of my pride. These are great insights that will help me a lot. Thank you, Bishop Barron!
This is really great stuff! Very simple yet powerful. I need to be listening to this every morning as my world does cave into itself throughout the day, filling with pride and envy. My 'dog on the beach' are my grandkids, 2 & 4, being with them, playing on the floor, gets me out of myself.
@@joseph7105 JP is a freemason.... Jesus Never started a new denomination called....churchanity.... the pope & catholic hirearchy Are freemasons... ALL SIN is DEADLY.....Salvation is NOT of the pagan roman doctrine.... ----------------->>>>>>> the One Verse Gospel ----- John 3:5 - Jesus answered, Truly, truly, I say to you, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.
What the bishop said about Dante's image of Satan being a perfect metaphor for pride also ties in with what I've heard from people who've escaped familial/sexual relationships with malignant narcissists (who are the epitome of incurvatus in se): All their charm, intelligence and potential for good being ruined through self-obsession (Lucifer was one of the greatest angels until his Fall) Self-pitying about their self-inflicted situation (Satan weeping) Furiously struggling to escape from their misery using tactics that just keep them there (Satan's wing beats generating the winds that freeze his tears and trap him deeper in the frozen lake) Trying to get some temporary relief from their frustration by inflicting agony on those around them, sometimes not even fully consciously, more like a person squeezing a stress ball (Satan biting down on the three traitors and flaying Judas' back by digging in his claws) Completely unable to communicate in any restorative or meaningful way (plenty of people around in the deepest circle, but all of them frozen and unable to talk, while Satan can only hear the screams of his victims and shows none of the persuasive, tempting charm that Milton would give him in Paradise Lost) Utterly terrifying if you're in their power but pitiful when looked at from a distance (Satan's a giant monster torturing people, but Dante and Virgil can simply leave him behind) It's such a perfect metaphor that I wonder if Dante had encountered such a person in his life, and realised that this person was as close a model for Satan as he was ever likely to find.
@@legionreaver No offense, but I dont know enough about you to trust your recommendation of book. I am careful with what I feed my body, and even more my mind. I asked your take bc I am curious about what you meant, and would rather hear a synopsis before investigating further. I hope this makes sense to you
@@legionreaver Thank you so much for your reply! I’ve been thinking about it over the last few days and I must say they correlate with other observations I’ve made. For example, I think it makes sense, to a degree, that certain groups essentially destroy their own credibility with self-aware-less and contradictory policies and actions towards people who don't immediately align or affirm them (tolerate everyone except the people they don't like, or against body-shaming except with people they don't align with, etc.). Not that I agree with it/them, but I remember seeing something like 60+ percent of LGBTQ+ identifying people were raised in some religious setting, predominately being Judeo-Christian, through their childhood. Many faced social rejection and exclusion, as well as possible bullying for being “different.” Most of the Pride identity is arranged as a “raging against” rather than a “going towards” something idealistic or utopian. A way to say, “You couldn’t break me; now WE will show you we are strong.” Prideful people in my experience are also hurt people that use this pride to make up for or protect the innocent or vulnerable parts of their sense of self. It’s basically like an armor that “Protects” them and their self-image (or gives the illusion of protection, really), but often this armor isn’t broken-down or updated when they leave the setting or context it was developed in or are presented with new information about the world. Think of a lobster that has outgrown its shell but won’t let go of it when the time comes to molt. In so many words, “every else is at fault” but the person holding onto their shell, so to speak. Book A sounds like Fundamental Attribution Error, which is like doing something and justifying your reason, but not giving that same nuance or grace to another. Think driving crazy but justifying it with “well, I have to get to work because I am a good employee and person” vs. seeing someone else do the same and attributing it to “they’re just insane! They’re a bad driver and a trash person.” Not exactly the same, but akin to the idea, so to speak. I’d be interested in checking it out, so thank you, friend! Also, Interesting framework. I’d like to share my take on the anatomy of the mind/soul. Often I think the ego gets a bad rap, and while it’s understandable why that is, I think it’s moreso an issue of balance. Rather than characterizing our soul/mind as a struggle between ego and impulse, I think it's more of a need for balance between our virtues and ego. This is a horizontal scale with awareness and humility on the left, and ego on the right. Impulses and “higher” self - or the part that connects with The Creator (I prefer to call God) - makes up the vertical scale. Picture Selfless/egoless transcendence on the upper left side, and selfish narcissism on the bottom right. IMO, The ratio that works best is 3-7: Ego/self-focus at a 3 and awareness/virtue at a 7. The ego is useful for implementing the will, and the ego - in the right context - is no different than inflammation in the body. So long as it’s not chronic it’s important, useful, and necessary. Impulses are what pull us down. That’s why we can go from egoless ‘awe’ while in church or at a concert or with friends we love to debased or ‘animalistic’ when we are alone or in conflict or believe we are in danger. We can also exist in the upper right (ego + higher) which usually looks like self-righteousness or the lower left (awareness + impulse) which usually looks like self-deprecation and criticism, and can lead to maladaptive coping methods to “shut the voices up.” Humility and Pride, or Awareness and Ego are like blood pressure: balance is good but usually better on the lower end. And Awe - Impulse is like blood sugar: high or low isn't the problem, but when they hang out in either for too long you’re going to have trouble. Balance, essentially.
"I'm not a religious man" But you still believe in a God and your believe morality comes from them. All evidence points the fact that morality can exist outside of a personal religion
@@Aluttuh Yes but the guest believes that these sins are religious in nature and disagrees with you. So you can't be both right on the origin of that at the same time
@@richardarnez4932 so because of what you perceive the guest to believe you cant bring yourself to entertain the metaphorical/psychological aspect of sin? interesting. sin is not only “dont do this because its bad”... its dont do this because it psychologically alters your mind to prioritize the ego, which is the reality of sin.
@@Aluttuh That's what you believe but Christians and other religions do not believe that. You are directly going against something that their God told you not to do, regardless of what it does to your mind. So you are definitely misrepresenting what the terms sin comes from.
This concept shines brilliantly in The Devils Advocate. Not a perfect movie, but its final scenes really hit hard and put into perspective the gravity that vanity has as over other "sins."
I thought of that scene too. I could almost hear Al Pacino (lucifer in the movie) say "Vanity, definitely my favorite sin" to Neo, I mean, Keanu Reeves.
One of my favorite movies of all time. An absolute masterpiece in its ability to illustrate how easily we can fall in to sin without even realizing it's happening.
I think there is a great practical advice in this clip about acquiring humility: losing yourself in the joy of doing something good. Thank you, Bishop!
This was brilliant. Bishop Barron really got to the heart of the issue and explained the 7 deadly sins very well and how pride is the worst sin of all. Lots to consider about this conversation, and Dante's inferno (and the Bishop's description thereof) is a great insight into the origin and fate of sin from an ultimate perspective.
I loved how he said the thing about the dogs and that being lost in something is heaven, because I think heaven is right here on earth for us all.. I know the feeling of being lost with my 3 kids and it's overwhelming in the right way.
I produced a video with low-tech equipment about a decade ago--- named it: "I found Avalon". Thought it would get a conversation started. Not many views. Joe Rogan has a "cool" that appeals most to the world. Also Mr. Russell Brand, the movie star. Avalon is a hidden place that few find. Glad you found it, too. 👀🐡🌊 cc
Though I am a Christian, one of the best lessons on the line between Heaven and Hell and what that truly means I learned from a Zen tale. Look up the "Samurai asks a Zen Monk to teach him the difference between Heaven and Hell." That story had the most profound effect upon me.
I am not nearly educated enough to provide answers, but I'm smart enough to know that notions of "good" are not necessarily based on Christianity. No need to go into how many times over the years people have wielded power in the name of Christ -- i.e. hypocrisy -- for no good. My point being is how can a "good" Christian overlook the many failings and still believe in "God"? As you point out, there are a multitude of examples of people here on earth who have constructed a basic notion of how to be a good person.
@@matttilley8620Good point. Hopefully I didn't give the impression that Christianity is exclusive in being good or bad.. I was trying to communicate the opposite actually. That as a person in the spirit of Christ I can recognize and appreciate truth wherever it springs.. the Zen parable I think captures the truth very well. As Christ said " the kingdom of heaven is within us". So then also is the capability of Hell. I think it's beautiful that even though we all can be separated by culture and geography the human condition, and the truth of being human transcends us.
@@matttilley8620 God is whatever you imagine 'him' to be, Christianity is just a collection of imaginings of various individuals over a few thousand years all pulled together with a particular agenda in mind. So even some of the apparently smartes people like this character in the video can do is play intellectual gymnastics with what is in that bible, and even then he reaches out to all sorts of other literature anyway to make his points. It's what was left out of the bible for various reasons that is more telling.
“caved in” is the best way to put it. I’ve been carrying way too much pride lately and while I’m aware of it, that riptide of being totally self-concerned and almost exclusively thinking about Me is so hard to reverse and very taxing
@@cspace1234nz Well the thing that opened my eyes a bit about this video was this: I always assumed Pride as the bible put it, to be… pride, like an inflated ego. But what the priest said here made me realize that pride is just the state of being obsessed with self in any sense. And I’ve been self-absorbed lately in the sense of “what do I look like, what am I going to do with my life, am I dressed well today? How’s my hair?” it’s self consciousness and it’s worrying about myself and my future- but to answer your question, no, it normally isn’t who I am. I’m in a confusing spot right now and I’ve been obsessed with getting to be effortlessly kind to myself again. But I’m still selfish right now, whereas I’m used to barely thinking of myself with any gravity, I’m sort of used to floating through life and being focused on others
@@Bumbaclartios ....surely there's a balance to be had. We are not saints so the 'I' is going to feature in our thoughts, but what's wrong with that, it's part of our journey. There's a wonderful saying that goes....'Duty without love is deplorable. Duty with love is desirable. Love without duty is Divine.' There's a bit of a clue in there I think
I've been thinking about pride alot lately as being a fundamental issue. The person who grasps on to some fringe ideology at the expense of loosing their family and friends is something we see all over the place these days and its all because they can't admit that they have been mislead or are perhaps kinda dumb all to protect their pride. Its sad and very difficult to help people who go down that road.. were flawed creatures capable of diluting ourselves and making mistakes so the best thing we can do is embrace it and grow!
theres nothing wrong with a little bit of pride in moderation, it really is just like anything else in this world that feels good. the bible unfortunately gives us this all-or-nothing fundamental crap thats not helpful for people who are interested in nuance.
@@brianbridges8124 not true. You can be proud of certain accomplishments or family as long as one recognizes from whom those accomplishments come from.
@@godswill2260 I agree! Taking pride in your accomplishments, family, work etc. is of course healthy and normal. Its when pride keeps people from integrating/entertaining new and or better information that it becomes a problem. There is a reson we have the sayings, "swallow your pride" or "blinded by pride." There are times where it just ain't a good thing.
@@godswill2260 where does it say in the bible that you're allowed to feel pride in certain situations? Hopefully you provide a specific verse and not some vague ramblings that can be interpreted any way at all. If I go through a tough time in my life, it was me who got through it, not God. It was my free will that made those choices right? You cant have it both ways. Either we have free will, and our accomplishments are entirely our own. Or God is leading us every step of the way in which case we never had a choice in the first place and all credit goes to him.
This makes so much sense. He basically described what it means to be an extreme narcissist. Caved in your own delusions which was created by something inside of you due to some circumstances. A blackhole type emptiness which never gets satisfied no matter what. And the person is stuck and frozen in that state perpetually, not even knowing the difference between healthy narcissism and the delusional/grandiose one.
"The bold effort the present (central) bank had made to control the government . . . are but premonitions of the fate that await the American people should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution or the establishment of another like it." -Andrew Jackson 1836
Whenever I see a dog riding in a car with its head stuck out of a window enjoying life it makes me smile and reminds me to enjoy the little things in life...
This is perfect timing , I'm trying to turn my life around and I'm turning to religion to help me through these dark times but I've noticed a different knowing god is guiding me. And I never believed until last week we'll I struggle with it
Do you really think tomorrow is different because you "find God" today? LOL. Look at world wide suffering. It doesn't help them, it won't help you. It's in your head.
Remember that at times jesus might not have seemed like much of a "christian". The love of god isnt showing up to church on sunday and checking the boxes, but in the doing of good for the sake of good. I am pleased to see that you already seem to know that well.
@@BradleyT2p2 I didn't believe until he did a miracle, that's when I surrendered . You just need to let go of your ego and let him work through you. God has a personal relationship with everyone & deals with them differently
Pride is probably the most abundant personality trait in my family. I have long recognized the harm of this trait, and fight it on a daily basis. It's not easy. I wish to know more coping mechanism to help me through, and more importantly, I wish to some day be brave enough to genuinely forgive those that have done me harm. I am not a religious person at all, but I am open enough to recognize the merit of ideas and make them my own. Thanks for being a catalyst for these ideas Lex.
In the English language, the word Pride often has a positive connotation as in being proud of your children or your work. The negative version is the lame term False pride. In French, they are two very different words. The self-centered sin is 'Orgueuil' which has an unmistakenly negative connotation. It even has a slimy sound that invokes disgust while 'fièreté' always has a positive connotation usually meaning being proud of something accomplished.
I’ve always compared the ego to a black hole in my mind, it devours all information and converts it to sheer inescapable mass. What a perfect parallel, ego, devil, singularity. Wait, what would that imply about the technological singularity!?
yea, which is why i dont agree with him on that point. its possible he's trying to dumb it down, but i truly don't think Christian humility is the flow state lol. and i dont think he does either
@@FreePercussion You know how when you start thinking about how you are walking or otherwise acting, the resulting self-consciousness causes dysfunction? Well, such is the nature of the ego. Its function is self-consciousness. Its effect is lack of flow. Ego is the primary barrier. Flow is the default.
@@messengerministries2253 What are you talking about? Catholicism is vocally against freemasonry. Facts: the catholic (which simply means "universal") church is the earliest form of Christianity to ever exist. For 1500 years after Christ's death, Catholicism was the universal Christian faith in the West before there were any other offshoot denominations. The leadership of the church was established in a direct line from Christ and the first apostles... read the early church fathers if you don't believe me. Peter was the first pope, because he was appointed by Christ as "the rock [upon which] I will build my church" (Matthew 16:18). And yes, all Christians - Catholics included - believe in baptism. That's why the Catholic sacrament of baptism exists. Where you get "freemasons" and "pagan roman doctrine", I don't know. Doctrine is all from the Bible and the great apostolic tradition of the past 2000 years, guided by the Holy Spirit.
Wow I like listening to this guy. He’s preaching with common sense and in a modern way. This is where religion should go vs the church services I was raised on.
Bishop Barrón can preach and teach to us regular Catholics as well as he does with intellectuals! The Catholic Faith is rich in its teachings. Although I don’t understand everything I love to listen to Lex Fridman’s podcasts.
6:18 “The dog isn’t getting angry on the beach when he’s running for the tennis ball” I get what he means but he has never met my dog if he says this! He gets angry the ball keeps leaving and try’s to literally destroy it in rage
Humility is not being lost in something. It's having an accurate view of yourself with reference to man and God. It is not blinding yourself, it is seeing clearly and truthfully.
I catch your point, but my view is (and I think this is what he means by “lose yourself”); Humility is that unmistakable feeling of unity with everything, everyone, and God, when you forget your manicured self and feel the interconnectedness of it all. I’m not a religious person, so when I say God I mean that governing unity which lies beyond our understanding.
I was raised a Christian and am struggling to square logic and reason with my original beliefs. The fear of going to hell is so strong, I truly don’t know what to believe but I am fearful I will pick wrong. Sucks
I understand your doubt brother, i passed through the same thing. Here's something that might help you, knowing that faith and reason are not opposites, but partners. They complement each other. There's a book by John Paul the II, it's called "Fides et Ratio" wich translates to "Faith and Reason". The Pope explains the relation between the two in the best way possible. Chesterton is another author that writtes pretty well about that subject. It helped me a lot, i hope you may find some use in them too.
When I was a kid attending church a priest said to his congregation that those who didn't comply would burn in hell for an eternity. I wonder under what category of sins falls threats made to children.
In Islam, pride (arrogance) is one of the greatest sins. Actually arrogance is the source of other sins. Just like he told about Satan. Satan sinned and became the source of evil because of his arrogance. But in Islam , the biggest sin is " The Shirq". Shirq means putting yourself into the place of the God ; acting as you can judge like the god. Also shirq has a very big relation with the arrogance.
One of the few intellectuals I know who has mastered his own pride is Slavoj Zizek. He is a walking, talking marvel, constantly engaged in thinking and talking instead of caring about posterity.
That is true, but he has a lot of intellectual vanity. He is excellent in dealing with the contradictions of life and of ideologies, but fails to make overall sense. In other words too much relativism.
The lowest level of hell in Dante’s Inferno was reserved for treachery - not pride. Having been there, I see Dante’s description more as a psychological metaphor of what the betrayed person is actually feeling. Cold, dark, frozen in ice and chewing yourself up (Satan gnawing on your soul). Dante thought it was poetic justice for the betrayer to be punished in this way because it’s how their victims feel. That said, I do like the black hole analogy Barron used and it’s radiant alternative.
Well said. Dante's absolute lowest level of hell is reserved for the betrayers. While it can be argued that pride is identifiable as a common denominator among betrayers, it's only one component. Betrayal is the sum of many parts, pride included.
@@pilotguy5075 You people seriously need to get a life! It is neither a Rolex nor a Breitling nor any sort of luxury watch. It was given to me as a gift fifteen years ago and cost, I would guess, a few hundred dollars.
how does man follow the will of God if the will of man is perverse? The theologians say you cannot do this without having divine grace all the power to follow the will of God. How then do you get grace. Why is grace given to some and not to others? If I cannot follow the will of God by my own effort because my will is selfish, how will my will which is selfish be transformed into an unselfish will? If I cannot do it because I am already the selfish will, then Grace must do it. If Grace has not already done it, why not? Because I didn’t accept it. But by definition I have no power to accept it because my will was selfish..
@@rathesungod4 speaking on human nature and about one’s relationship with God/A supreme being/ Source energy (its really all the same isn’t it…) is “true religion” IMO. Corrupt religion is, with I’m sure some exceptions organized religion in general. I agree with the others, The Bishop is speaking without corruption here. He’s just speaking from his heart and from where he sees things. I found it refreshing.
@@Marta_is_here yes I agree with what you are saying, the word "religion" as a group is what I was referring to. I think everybody should explore and find their very own.
@@rathesungod4 A definite yes! On finding your own religion…I found my sweet spot in my 50’s after a lot of searching. I practice Christian Mysticism and I teach Reiki. Most I share this with find it a bit odd, but so am I, so it fits. lol As far as Catholicism being corrupt..I didn’t articulate it well, but, like most organized religions. That’s probably a big yes. But I felt the Bishop was not speaking as the Catholic Church on this day. ☀️
What a shock to discover that I was not only a sinner but that I had no interest in obeying the instruction to, 'Go and sin no more.' or admitting that when I said, '..and I will not sin again..' I was telling lies. I knew this to be so because I kept turning up like clockwork on a Saturday at the Confession box. And I had the audacity, as an altar boy, to consider myself to be a, 'Humble servant of the Church.' Confession is a place for sins to be confessed, sorrow and determination to amend expressed and not a place for sinners to tell lies.
We live in a society that pushes pride. Be proud of being fat, proud of being skinny, proud of being beautiful, proud of your race, proud of your achievements … they’re setting us up for complete and utter failure as a whole.
My father told me that when I was a few years old, he lost his job in the 80s during the recession. It was Christmas time and he didn't have enough money to buy any gifts for the family, let alone enough food. Barely able to pay the rent. He was so ashamed of himself that he went to church and confessed to the priest that he was failing as a father and provider for his family. The priest heard him, reached into his pocket and gave him $40 and said, "Go get your baby a gift and hold your head up high for you are a great man."
God bless your father and that priest
Whats your point ?
sounds like a made up internet story.
@@silly8395 anyone can be a helper. Foo
@@silly8395 love thy neighbor. Great message although i’m bo christian
The idea of pride as being caved in, and love being the opposite--selfless, diffused into the world--is new to me, and super helpful.
then you're a gullible fool to simply accept an idea as being "true" or factual on face value, without actually examining the claims and any the evidence for those claims.
Make your OWN mind up. Gods remain an unsubstantiated claim with ZERO supporting evidence,... after thousands of years.
Actually the opposite of being prideful is humility
@phil Dodd love is a human construct driven solely by a chemical response. What are you attempting to say? Besides there is only one true love and it’s objective not subjective.
@@godswill2260 God's are a human construct driven soley by a chemical response.
Is the One "true" love, the love of being alive and able to think for ourselves,. or the love of a parent for a child, What are you attepting to say,. that You know the truth,.. but are also convinced that there are gods.?
what evidence can you present for your claims.
@@3dagedesign Everything starts as a theory. Show evidence of the contrary.
I remember somebody once warned me to stay clear of another person. They said, "He's a black hole." That always stuck with me as a terrifying description of narcissism.
That's racist
@@foruminfo9079 hahaha
Wow
I know some of these. Deadly and destructive but still pull you in
Great comment - I totally agree.
"He went all the way into it, to get us out of it" that's a powerful statement
What I appreciate about Barron is he’s able to speak with the smartest or the more simplistic without changing his tact. Those who are less informed about Catholicism he’s able to take a easiest approach but get his convictions heard.
He's a good representation of a man of faith 🙂 Usually they lack intelligence and it's hard to relate but he's really cool🤙🏽
he's explicit and very clear what he is talking about
Lex is a data scientist, knows what he's doing with those thumbnails
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Sex always sells. Have you ever seen cola commercials from South America? I will say it again, sex always sells. It’s the association that is the tail end detriment.
I came for the thumbnail... figuratively.
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I’m an atheist, but I try to give credit where it’s due. Robert Barron is a very bright and thoughtful man. I enjoyed listening to his insights. At the risk of offending some, I can’t help but notice that I’m usually more impressed with the philosophizing of Catholic thinkers when compared to thinkers of other branches of Christianity.
I don’t know but I would guess Barron is a Jesuit thinker. I was born and raised in Catholic schools. I never thought much of it until I got to a Jesuit college. If you’re interested in hearing more rational Catholic speakers, find the Jesuit place in your area. I think you’d be surprised at what you hear from them and the faith
Check out his videos on the nones.
I like what you said.. That’s exactly what drew me to the church! Deep, philosophical conversations and I loved the integration of science into theology. Great stuff I’m glad you’re watching
Classical education.
That’s exactly my trouble. I can’t discuss anything with Christians - they just “know,” and insist I believe their way or I’m simply wrong. There’s no debate or discussion, just a statement of facts.
While I don’t fancy the catholic church and the darkness it’s covered up, their philosophers are pretty articulate. I wish more people in the churches could reason and play devil’s advocate without getting flustered or troubled - those who do evidence the weakness of their faith or the understanding therein.
I love Bishop Barron’s dog analogies. He once explained suffering like a dog being taken to the vet for a shot. You can try to explain why he needs a shot, but a dog will never understand why the person he loves the most is letting this happen to him. Lightbulb moment for me.
Deep statement. We just took our dog in for a paw surgery. Being an active breed, cattle dog, she had to be reduced to laying around, only short walk in the backyard to use the bathroom, and back in. Wrapped the pad, changing it all the time, etc. you are absolutely right they don’t understand but I feel they trust you in a way and know you aren’t trying to hurt them. Just like we trust God during suffering moments. My wife often feels as if God abandons us in hard times. It’s interesting how in the Bible, it’s often the woman who doubts a bit more. I wonder why this is? I need to think about this more. Maybe it’s the job of a man to take on the burden more for the family. Not sure. I know JP talks a lot that women have more neuroticism as a personality trait because of protecting infants and they have to be awake to threat and danger. That could be where some more doubt comes from.
Have a nice weekend, my dog is looking at me now and she wants to go for a walk and play. Heaven for both of us, in a way. Lost in the moment. I’m also a bird photographer so that’s where everything else falls away when I’m out in nature, heaven in a sense.
Yes he understands dogs. I like the dog beach analogy for heaven . Ive been there.
He gives a memorable sermon in less than ten minutes, presenting the heart of the gospel message, that will keep me thinking all week long.
I think this is was a phenomenal interview. So much respect and encouragement from two different minds. Great job.
I agree. we need these kind of discussions.
@@nadinetasmania Your keyboard has a problem with the letter "e".
@@Elaphe472 LOL thanks, I only noticed this later - all good now!
I really need to see this today. I've been struggling with jealousy and anger a lot lately, and now I am contemplating about how they are both the fruits of my pride. These are great insights that will help me a lot. Thank you, Bishop Barron!
This is really great stuff! Very simple yet powerful. I need to be listening to this every morning as my world does cave into itself throughout the day, filling with pride and envy.
My 'dog on the beach' are my grandkids, 2 & 4, being with them, playing on the floor, gets me out of myself.
Enjoy heaven!
Playing on the floor or play wrestling with my surrogate grandfather are some of my earliest and fondest memories. They're very lucky to have you!
@@selfa2003 Thank you for you kind words Joe.
Would that 2 Samuel 24 could be so simple, then.
Listening to father Barron is like reading all those thinkers you know you where supposed to read but didn't.
Not quite, it is pretty surface overview.
well put
For religious nuts
@@joseph7105 JP is a freemason....
Jesus Never started a new denomination called....churchanity....
the pope & catholic hirearchy Are freemasons...
ALL SIN is DEADLY.....Salvation is NOT of the pagan roman doctrine....
----------------->>>>>>> the One Verse Gospel -----
John 3:5 - Jesus answered, Truly, truly, I say to you, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.
the sad part is most americans glued to their phones are becoming dumber and dumber ,intellectual pursuits going down the drain
What the bishop said about Dante's image of Satan being a perfect metaphor for pride also ties in with what I've heard from people who've escaped familial/sexual relationships with malignant narcissists (who are the epitome of incurvatus in se):
All their charm, intelligence and potential for good being ruined through self-obsession (Lucifer was one of the greatest angels until his Fall)
Self-pitying about their self-inflicted situation (Satan weeping)
Furiously struggling to escape from their misery using tactics that just keep them there (Satan's wing beats generating the winds that freeze his tears and trap him deeper in the frozen lake)
Trying to get some temporary relief from their frustration by inflicting agony on those around them, sometimes not even fully consciously, more like a person squeezing a stress ball (Satan biting down on the three traitors and flaying Judas' back by digging in his claws)
Completely unable to communicate in any restorative or meaningful way (plenty of people around in the deepest circle, but all of them frozen and unable to talk, while Satan can only hear the screams of his victims and shows none of the persuasive, tempting charm that Milton would give him in Paradise Lost)
Utterly terrifying if you're in their power but pitiful when looked at from a distance (Satan's a giant monster torturing people, but Dante and Virgil can simply leave him behind)
It's such a perfect metaphor that I wonder if Dante had encountered such a person in his life, and realised that this person was as close a model for Satan as he was ever likely to find.
Very well put.
@@legionreaver Can you expound? I'm curious
@Jedediah Cephas Ruach haKodesh is No Respecter of pagan religions....
the ancient freemason cult were the Chaldeans of Genesis 11....
@@legionreaver No offense, but I dont know enough about you to trust your recommendation of book. I am careful with what I feed my body, and even more my mind. I asked your take bc I am curious about what you meant, and would rather hear a synopsis before investigating further. I hope this makes sense to you
@@legionreaver Thank you so much for your reply!
I’ve been thinking about it over the last few days and I must say they correlate with other observations I’ve made.
For example, I think it makes sense, to a degree, that certain groups essentially destroy their own credibility with self-aware-less and contradictory policies and actions towards people who don't immediately align or affirm them (tolerate everyone except the people they don't like, or against body-shaming except with people they don't align with, etc.). Not that I agree with it/them, but I remember seeing something like 60+ percent of LGBTQ+ identifying people were raised in some religious setting, predominately being Judeo-Christian, through their childhood. Many faced social rejection and exclusion, as well as possible bullying for being “different.”
Most of the Pride identity is arranged as a “raging against” rather than a “going towards” something idealistic or utopian. A way to say, “You couldn’t break me; now WE will show you we are strong.”
Prideful people in my experience are also hurt people that use this pride to make up for or protect the innocent or vulnerable parts of their sense of self.
It’s basically like an armor that “Protects” them and their self-image (or gives the illusion of protection, really), but often this armor isn’t broken-down or updated when they leave the setting or context it was developed in or are presented with new information about the world. Think of a lobster that has outgrown its shell but won’t let go of it when the time comes to molt.
In so many words, “every else is at fault” but the person holding onto their shell, so to speak.
Book A sounds like Fundamental Attribution Error, which is like doing something and justifying your reason, but not giving that same nuance or grace to another. Think driving crazy but justifying it with “well, I have to get to work because I am a good employee and person” vs. seeing someone else do the same and attributing it to “they’re just insane! They’re a bad driver and a trash person.”
Not exactly the same, but akin to the idea, so to speak.
I’d be interested in checking it out, so thank you, friend!
Also, Interesting framework.
I’d like to share my take on the anatomy of the mind/soul.
Often I think the ego gets a bad rap, and while it’s understandable why that is, I think it’s moreso an issue of balance.
Rather than characterizing our soul/mind as a struggle between ego and impulse, I think it's more of a need for balance between our virtues and ego. This is a horizontal scale with awareness and humility on the left, and ego on the right.
Impulses and “higher” self - or the part that connects with The Creator (I prefer to call God) - makes up the vertical scale.
Picture Selfless/egoless transcendence on the upper left side, and selfish narcissism on the bottom right.
IMO, The ratio that works best is 3-7: Ego/self-focus at a 3 and awareness/virtue at a 7.
The ego is useful for implementing the will, and the ego - in the right context - is no different than inflammation in the body. So long as it’s not chronic it’s important, useful, and necessary.
Impulses are what pull us down. That’s why we can go from egoless ‘awe’ while in church or at a concert or with friends we love to debased or ‘animalistic’ when we are alone or in conflict or believe we are in danger.
We can also exist in the upper right (ego + higher) which usually looks like self-righteousness or the lower left (awareness + impulse) which usually looks like self-deprecation and criticism, and can lead to maladaptive coping methods to “shut the voices up.”
Humility and Pride, or Awareness and Ego are like blood pressure: balance is good but usually better on the lower end.
And Awe - Impulse is like blood sugar: high or low isn't the problem, but when they hang out in either for too long you’re going to have trouble.
Balance, essentially.
This might be the best 9 minutes of a podcast I've ever heard.
I'm not a religious man, but this was very well put, and most people could benefit from hearing it.
exactly! in my eyes sin is psychological/physical/social damaging actions, especially when repeated over time.
"I'm not a religious man" But you still believe in a God and your believe morality comes from them. All evidence points the fact that morality can exist outside of a personal religion
@@Aluttuh Yes but the guest believes that these sins are religious in nature and disagrees with you. So you can't be both right on the origin of that at the same time
@@richardarnez4932 so because of what you perceive the guest to believe you cant bring yourself to entertain the metaphorical/psychological aspect of sin? interesting. sin is not only “dont do this because its bad”... its dont do this because it psychologically alters your mind to prioritize the ego, which is the reality of sin.
@@Aluttuh That's what you believe but Christians and other religions do not believe that. You are directly going against something that their God told you not to do, regardless of what it does to your mind. So you are definitely misrepresenting what the terms sin comes from.
This concept shines brilliantly in The Devils Advocate. Not a perfect movie, but its final scenes really hit hard and put into perspective the gravity that vanity has as over other "sins."
I thought of that scene too. I could almost hear Al Pacino (lucifer in the movie) say "Vanity, definitely my favorite sin" to Neo, I mean, Keanu Reeves.
Such a great and underrated movie.
One of my favorite movies of all time. An absolute masterpiece in its ability to illustrate how easily we can fall in to sin without even realizing it's happening.
@@messengerministries2253 love it when ignorant naysayers profess to know what they are talking about as fact ,lol lol nice try though
@@sal4856 Your Carnality is Impressive ---
Romans 8:6 - to Be Carnally Minded is DEATH
Bro's I've gotten so used to watching these Lex clips. I see new videos everyday and I get comforting feeling of familiarity when I get my daily dose.
Hey dude hope youre well and im glad youre here
I think there is a great practical advice in this clip about acquiring humility: losing yourself in the joy of doing something good. Thank you, Bishop!
This was brilliant. Bishop Barron really got to the heart of the issue and explained the 7 deadly sins very well and how pride is the worst sin of all. Lots to consider about this conversation, and Dante's inferno (and the Bishop's description thereof) is a great insight into the origin and fate of sin from an ultimate perspective.
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'going all the way into the sock to get it back out' genius with the black hole analogy
The thumbnails bruh xD
My mind's tellin me no,,,
Thumbnail comes straight from Lex’s personal folder
Only reason I pressed play
No.
I thought it was pretty hot 😆
I loved how he said the thing about the dogs and that being lost in something is heaven, because I think heaven is right here on earth for us all.. I know the feeling of being lost with my 3 kids and it's overwhelming in the right way.
Now imagine that for eternity
Dog backward is God.
I produced a video with low-tech equipment about a decade ago--- named it: "I found Avalon". Thought it would get a conversation started. Not many views. Joe Rogan has a "cool" that appeals most to the world. Also Mr. Russell Brand, the movie star.
Avalon is a hidden place that few find. Glad you found it, too.
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Sure it’s all good till another dog rips the tennis ball away from him .
I don't see comment #5 posted permanently in the comment section; was it censored?
I love this so much. I had such a narrow idea of pride before this.
Brilliant discussion, enjoyed hearing this amazing explanation by Bishop Barron.
Beautifully put .
This is a very great clip people need to hear this !
👍
No they should not waste their time.
Yah. Bishop Barron makes great comedy
Though I am a Christian, one of the best lessons on the line between Heaven and Hell and what that truly means I learned from a Zen tale. Look up the "Samurai asks a Zen Monk to teach him the difference between Heaven and Hell." That story had the most profound effect upon me.
I am not nearly educated enough to provide answers, but I'm smart enough to know that notions of "good" are not necessarily based on Christianity. No need to go into how many times over the years people have wielded power in the name of Christ -- i.e. hypocrisy -- for no good. My point being is how can a "good" Christian overlook the many failings and still believe in "God"? As you point out, there are a multitude of examples of people here on earth who have constructed a basic notion of how to be a good person.
@@matttilley8620Good point. Hopefully I didn't give the impression that Christianity is exclusive in being good or bad.. I was trying to communicate the opposite actually. That as a person in the spirit of Christ I can recognize and appreciate truth wherever it springs.. the Zen parable I think captures the truth very well. As Christ said " the kingdom of heaven is within us". So then also is the capability of Hell. I think it's beautiful that even though we all can be separated by culture and geography the human condition, and the truth of being human transcends us.
@@matttilley8620 God is whatever you imagine 'him' to be, Christianity is just a collection of imaginings of various individuals over a few thousand years all pulled together with a particular agenda in mind. So even some of the apparently smartes people like this character in the video can do is play intellectual gymnastics with what is in that bible, and even then he reaches out to all sorts of other literature anyway to make his points. It's what was left out of the bible for various reasons that is more telling.
@@cspace1234nz and all you can do is play some intellectual gymnastics in the comment section to prove what you imagine to be true
@@katarzynarak9188 ....yep, that is precisely right. Well done !
"Heaven is a cute happy playful dog".
- Priest Robet Barron
I think it's something everyone can relate to
Bishop Barron
I couldnt agree more I type as i sit in bed with my German Shepherd pups head on my leg
What's Hell again ?
@@termikesmike my exwife
“caved in” is the best way to put it. I’ve been carrying way too much pride lately and while I’m aware of it, that riptide of being totally self-concerned and almost exclusively thinking about Me is so hard to reverse and very taxing
just say to yourself on a daily basis im not all that and barely above a monkey in the grand sheme
....is that anything other than what you imagine yourself to be ? Perhaps it's not who you really are.
@@cspace1234nz Well the thing that opened my eyes a bit about this video was this: I always assumed Pride as the bible put it, to be… pride, like an inflated ego. But what the priest said here made me realize that pride is just the state of being obsessed with self in any sense. And I’ve been self-absorbed lately in the sense of “what do I look like, what am I going to do with my life, am I dressed well today? How’s my hair?” it’s self consciousness and it’s worrying about myself and my future- but to answer your question, no, it normally isn’t who I am. I’m in a confusing spot right now and I’ve been obsessed with getting to be effortlessly kind to myself again. But I’m still selfish right now, whereas I’m used to barely thinking of myself with any gravity, I’m sort of used to floating through life and being focused on others
@@Bumbaclartios ....surely there's a balance to be had. We are not saints so the 'I' is going to feature in our thoughts, but what's wrong with that, it's part of our journey. There's a wonderful saying that goes....'Duty without love is deplorable. Duty with love is desirable. Love without duty is Divine.' There's a bit of a clue in there I think
@@cspace1234nz That’s a beautiful quote, I’ve never heard it before. thank you
I'm not a Christian, BUT this was AMAZING! Thank you.
You don't need to be a Christian to be living under God's rules
@@audie-cashstack-uk4881 You don't need to be a Hindu to be living under Brahmā's rules.
And gratitude, Lex. That's a big one for fighting sin. (As an addendum to your list: empathy, humility compassion, love the neighbor)
I've been thinking about pride alot lately as being a fundamental issue. The person who grasps on to some fringe ideology at the expense of loosing their family and friends is something we see all over the place these days and its all because they can't admit that they have been mislead or are perhaps kinda dumb all to protect their pride. Its sad and very difficult to help people who go down that road.. were flawed creatures capable of diluting ourselves and making mistakes so the best thing we can do is embrace it and grow!
theres nothing wrong with a little bit of pride in moderation, it really is just like anything else in this world that feels good. the bible unfortunately gives us this all-or-nothing fundamental crap thats not helpful for people who are interested in nuance.
@@brianbridges8124 not true. You can be proud of certain accomplishments or family as long as one recognizes from whom those accomplishments come from.
@@godswill2260 I agree! Taking pride in your accomplishments, family, work etc. is of course healthy and normal. Its when pride keeps people from integrating/entertaining new and or better information that it becomes a problem. There is a reson we have the sayings, "swallow your pride" or "blinded by pride." There are times where it just ain't a good thing.
@@godswill2260 where does it say in the bible that you're allowed to feel pride in certain situations? Hopefully you provide a specific verse and not some vague ramblings that can be interpreted any way at all.
If I go through a tough time in my life, it was me who got through it, not God. It was my free will that made those choices right? You cant have it both ways. Either we have free will, and our accomplishments are entirely our own. Or God is leading us every step of the way in which case we never had a choice in the first place and all credit goes to him.
@@Sally_Mf_Mander where does it state in the bible that sin is ok in certain cases? Because that changes everything then.
With those thumbnails i can see that lex is a man of culture.
This makes so much sense. He basically described what it means to be an extreme narcissist. Caved in your own delusions which was created by something inside of you due to some circumstances. A blackhole type emptiness which never gets satisfied no matter what. And the person is stuck and frozen in that state perpetually, not even knowing the difference between healthy narcissism and the delusional/grandiose one.
"The bold effort the present (central) bank had made to control the government . . . are but premonitions of the fate that await the American people should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution or the establishment of another like it." -Andrew Jackson 1836
tax the churches!
And here we are!!!
Yep, controlling not only this corrupt nation but most others. Welcome to the end of America.
Losing your ego is only possible by losing your pride. Life goals.
What??? Life goals??? Man i dont want to lose nothing...all of what i got makes me.
Man i new i should have stayed out of this videos comments ugh! Im out
Theres nothing wrong with a little pride in moderation, it motivates people to achieve more and to be productive.
Great discussion, well done.. 👍
Wow, thank very much. For me, this message comes in just in the right moment. Thanks
Whenever I see a dog riding in a car with its head stuck out of a window enjoying life it makes me smile and reminds me to enjoy the little things in life...
I assumed I wouldn't be very interested in this episode. I was wrong. I really appreciate the fathers explanations.
This is perfect timing , I'm trying to turn my life around and I'm turning to religion to help me through these dark times but I've noticed a different knowing god is guiding me. And I never believed until last week we'll I struggle with it
Turning to God breaks the cycle of despair and unhappiness. You find Truth through him
Was a hardcore atheist ever anxious, life meaningless. Jesus changed my life , keep going mate
Do you really think tomorrow is different because you "find God" today? LOL. Look at world wide suffering. It doesn't help them, it won't help you.
It's in your head.
Remember that at times jesus might not have seemed like much of a "christian". The love of god isnt showing up to church on sunday and checking the boxes, but in the doing of good for the sake of good. I am pleased to see that you already seem to know that well.
@@BradleyT2p2 I didn't believe until he did a miracle, that's when I surrendered . You just need to let go of your ego and let him work through you. God has a personal relationship with everyone & deals with them differently
This guy has never approached a chihuahua
the do look like little lucifers im not gonna lie
Chihuahuas really are devils
Those things are giant rats not dogs.
yeah man chihuahuas are rats, not dogs
Pride is probably the most abundant personality trait in my family. I have long recognized the harm of this trait, and fight it on a daily basis. It's not easy. I wish to know more coping mechanism to help me through, and more importantly, I wish to some day be brave enough to genuinely forgive those that have done me harm. I am not a religious person at all, but I am open enough to recognize the merit of ideas and make them my own. Thanks for being a catalyst for these ideas Lex.
In the English language, the word Pride often has a positive connotation as in being proud of your children or your work. The negative version is the lame term False pride.
In French, they are two very different words. The self-centered sin is 'Orgueuil' which has an unmistakenly negative connotation. It even has a slimy sound that invokes disgust while 'fièreté' always has a positive connotation usually meaning being proud of something accomplished.
I’ve always compared the ego to a black hole in my mind, it devours all information and converts it to sheer inescapable mass. What a perfect parallel, ego, devil, singularity. Wait, what would that imply about the technological singularity!?
Like A.I? You’re on to something.
I don't know! What are you're thoughts now in regards to the technological singularity?
The ego is not your enemy, it's a tool.
That 'humility' he talks about seems very much like the psychological state called 'flow.'
yea, which is why i dont agree with him on that point. its possible he's trying to dumb it down, but i truly don't think Christian humility is the flow state lol. and i dont think he does either
@@joellovell6240 selflessness and flow states probably overlap a lot though.
@@FreePercussion agreed
@@joellovell6240 Mystic Christianity
@@FreePercussion You know how when you start thinking about how you are walking or otherwise acting, the resulting self-consciousness causes dysfunction? Well, such is the nature of the ego. Its function is self-consciousness. Its effect is lack of flow. Ego is the primary barrier. Flow is the default.
Thank you. Such an enlightening interview.
Wow, for me, this message comes in just in the right moment. Thanks
Omg I need more of this guy…
What an incredible interview.
Great talk and much appreciated.
Such a nice and well spoken fella
As I've grown older, I've discovered that a lot of disappointment and hurt in my life has been due to my own pride.
Awesome you had this guest
Thumbnails brought me here,curiosity kept me here
I really appreciate this thank you lex this is god to hear or good to hear which ever serves you it is by self forgetting that one finds
Brilliant nuggets of wisdom here, I'm not catholic but I would go to this Priests Parish for sure :)
This was such a moving and intellectually stimulating clip. I would listen to this man talk and talk and talk.
This was a really good interview
Awesome!! Thank you for bringing such a brilliant person.
Wow what a throw back, haven’t seen this guy since I graduated from my catholic high school.
How's your butt doing? 😆
He's pretty awesome, and has a really great TH-cam channel himself (similar content to this).
What specifically about this video throws you back to your time in Catholic high school? Is it good, or bad?
@@messengerministries2253 What are you talking about? Catholicism is vocally against freemasonry.
Facts: the catholic (which simply means "universal") church is the earliest form of Christianity to ever exist. For 1500 years after Christ's death, Catholicism was the universal Christian faith in the West before there were any other offshoot denominations. The leadership of the church was established in a direct line from Christ and the first apostles... read the early church fathers if you don't believe me. Peter was the first pope, because he was appointed by Christ as "the rock [upon which] I will build my church" (Matthew 16:18). And yes, all Christians - Catholics included - believe in baptism. That's why the Catholic sacrament of baptism exists. Where you get "freemasons" and "pagan roman doctrine", I don't know. Doctrine is all from the Bible and the great apostolic tradition of the past 2000 years, guided by the Holy Spirit.
Wow I like listening to this guy. He’s preaching with common sense and in a modern way. This is where religion should go vs the church services I was raised on.
Bishop Barrón can preach and teach to us regular Catholics as well as he does with intellectuals! The Catholic Faith is rich in its teachings. Although I don’t understand everything I love to listen to Lex Fridman’s podcasts.
What watch Mr Robert is wearing?
That’s a very accurate description of Twitter.
I would be happy to have friends like this.
6:18 “The dog isn’t getting angry on the beach when he’s running for the tennis ball” I get what he means but he has never met my dog if he says this! He gets angry the ball keeps leaving and try’s to literally destroy it in rage
Also, he has never met my dog..... when another dog tried to take his tennis ball 🤬
Hahah cute
thank you for this discussion
Robert Barron: "Pride is the deadliest of the deadly sins" 0:55
Escanor: "Hahaha I am pretty amazing. Now it's time.... For Cruel Sun...."
😂😂
But there is one thing a saiyan always keeps... HIS PRIDE!
majin vegeta 🙂
All Saiyans Go To Hell
Saiyantanic.
It's beutiful that he got his redemption and died for another. Healing.
ITS OVER 9 fu##ing THOUSAND!!!
god bless 🕊😊
Humility is not being lost in something. It's having an accurate view of yourself with reference to man and God. It is not blinding yourself, it is seeing clearly and truthfully.
I catch your point, but my view is (and I think this is what he means by “lose yourself”); Humility is that unmistakable feeling of unity with everything, everyone, and God, when you forget your manicured self and feel the interconnectedness of it all. I’m not a religious person, so when I say God I mean that governing unity which lies beyond our understanding.
This message couldn’t have come at a better time. 🙏 Thank you
Hope you're doing well. 🙂
This is powerful! - thank you!
The opposite of love isn’t hate; it isn’t even indifference. It’s pride.
The opposite of Love is will to power
Well, doesn’t that have its roots in pride? That one thinks he or she should have or is qualified to wield power over others?
Well... your thumbnail was certainly attention grabbing.
It gives me 'Type O Negative - My Girlfriend's Girlfriend' vibes.
Incredible 9 minutes 🙏❤
I was raised a Christian and am struggling to square logic and reason with my original beliefs. The fear of going to hell is so strong, I truly don’t know what to believe but I am fearful I will pick wrong. Sucks
Heaven/hell is a state of mind, not a physical place to go
I know how you feel. I heard a great quote from Jordan Peterson along the lines of "I don't know if God exists, but I act as if He does."
I understand your doubt brother, i passed through the same thing.
Here's something that might help you, knowing that faith and reason are not opposites, but partners.
They complement each other.
There's a book by John Paul the II, it's called "Fides et Ratio" wich translates to "Faith and Reason". The Pope explains the relation between the two in the best way possible.
Chesterton is another author that writtes pretty well about that subject.
It helped me a lot, i hope you may find some use in them too.
Don't pick any religion
@@ding9633 you sound lonely. Do you need to talk? Came all this way to post something.
I love these interviews.
When I was a kid attending church a priest said to his congregation that those who didn't comply would burn in hell for an eternity. I wonder under what category of sins falls threats made to children.
Parenting.
Robert Barron looking like Walter White as a born again Christian
Important to acknowledge evil, especially today.
In Islam, pride (arrogance) is one of the greatest sins. Actually arrogance is the source of other sins. Just like he told about Satan. Satan sinned and became the source of evil because of his arrogance. But in Islam , the biggest sin is " The Shirq". Shirq means putting yourself into the place of the God ; acting as you can judge like the god. Also shirq has a very big relation with the arrogance.
thank you for sharing
Really good interview man. This is a new subject for me and I find it very interesting
I’ve always interpreted the being that is called satan is actually pride.
It's the ego
I thought about people being like a “black hole” 3 days ago. Here I am listening to a great analogy there of.
One of the few intellectuals I know who has mastered his own pride is Slavoj Zizek. He is a walking, talking marvel, constantly engaged in thinking and talking instead of caring about posterity.
That is true, but he has a lot of intellectual vanity. He is excellent in dealing with the contradictions of life and of ideologies, but fails to make overall sense. In other words too much relativism.
@@gyozop I haven't read his books yet but based on his lectures that is true. But he by all definitions has amazing moments of clarity in thought.
"Pride is bad! u need to be humble and humility is good and I live in santa barbara near the beach..."
Good for u pastor, good for u!
On a chart of human bioluminescence people were photographed during different emotional states. Pride looks almost exactly like anger. Go look.
161K views in 1 day. Now, that's what a good thumbnail gives you.
The lowest level of hell in Dante’s Inferno was reserved for treachery - not pride.
Having been there, I see Dante’s description more as a psychological metaphor of what the betrayed person is actually feeling. Cold, dark, frozen in ice and chewing yourself up (Satan gnawing on your soul). Dante thought it was poetic justice for the betrayer to be punished in this way because it’s how their victims feel.
That said, I do like the black hole analogy Barron used and it’s radiant alternative.
Well said. Dante's absolute lowest level of hell is reserved for the betrayers. While it can be argued that pride is identifiable as a common denominator among betrayers, it's only one component. Betrayal is the sum of many parts, pride included.
Is that a $15,000 Rolex Daytona?
God pays well.
It's not a rolex daytona. Don't make stuff up.
@@pilotguy5075 You people seriously need to get a life! It is neither a Rolex nor a Breitling nor any sort of luxury watch. It was given to me as a gift fifteen years ago and cost, I would guess, a few hundred dollars.
Who is the painter he's talking about?
how does man follow the will of God if the will of man is perverse? The theologians say you cannot do this without having divine grace all the power to follow the will of God. How then do you get grace. Why is grace given to some and not to others? If I cannot follow the will of God by my own effort because my will is selfish, how will my will which is selfish be transformed into an unselfish will? If I cannot do it because I am already the selfish will, then Grace must do it. If Grace has not already done it, why not? Because I didn’t accept it. But by definition I have no power to accept it because my will was selfish..
I don't know man, at least the Old Testament God seems to be also very prideful
There is a belief, in the ancient Christian sect of Gnosticism, that the Old Testament God is the Demiurge.
Not to mention vengeful, cruel, and jealous.
@@HyzersGR He got older and learned.
Just like all of us. Maybe we are together in figuring it out
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I'm not into religion but I learned something about human nature today from Robert
Your not into corrupt religion. Bishop Baron is speaking about true religion.
@@jesseholden325Catholicism isn't corrupt?
@@rathesungod4 speaking on human nature and about one’s relationship with God/A supreme being/ Source energy (its really all the same isn’t it…) is “true religion” IMO.
Corrupt religion is, with I’m sure some exceptions organized religion in general.
I agree with the others, The Bishop is speaking without corruption here. He’s just speaking from his heart and from where he sees things.
I found it refreshing.
@@Marta_is_here yes I agree with what you are saying, the word "religion" as a group is what I was referring to. I think everybody should explore and find their very own.
@@rathesungod4 A definite yes! On finding your own religion…I found my sweet spot in my 50’s after a lot of searching. I practice Christian Mysticism and I teach Reiki. Most I share this with find it a bit odd, but so am I, so it fits. lol
As far as Catholicism being corrupt..I didn’t articulate it well, but, like most organized religions. That’s probably a big yes.
But I felt the Bishop was not speaking as the Catholic Church on this day. ☀️
Spoiler:
Pride is the worst sin. Didn't expect it, did you?
What a shock to discover that I was not only a sinner but that I had no interest in obeying the instruction to, 'Go and sin no more.' or admitting that when I said, '..and I will not sin again..' I was telling lies. I knew this to be so because I kept turning up like clockwork on a Saturday at the Confession box. And I had the audacity, as an altar boy, to consider myself to be a, 'Humble servant of the Church.' Confession is a place for sins to be confessed, sorrow and determination to amend expressed and not a place for sinners to tell lies.
We live in a society that pushes pride. Be proud of being fat, proud of being skinny, proud of being beautiful, proud of your race, proud of your achievements … they’re setting us up for complete and utter failure as a whole.