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America is fat and lazy, people are incredibly overpaid for menial jobs. America's working class will not fight for fat beurocrats. I see this developing into a nuclear problem because U.S. is weak beyond measure. If you can't win fair you cheat. Ive made minimum wage my entire life from age 13-31, I've been working since I was 4 years old on the farm. I've had many jobs and have more skills than anyone I've met. The facade of success that people hide behind disgusts me. People make 100k+/year and have no skills. Hard work is not rewarded, waste and inefficiency is. U.S. is a sewage dump.
Unbridled capitalism destroys the world, communism stifles the majority and wealth is controlled by the empire and gives to the few ass kissing snobbish ones only. What about socialism? I don't know even how it works.😅 😇 The problem with humans is greed, luxury and hunger for power, they seek and accumulate more than they need, even if it at the expense and destruction of whole community. Buddy the war never stopped and it is ongoing. Every citizen on earth is blindfolded and ignorant of the blood sucking cartels instigating civil wars and conflicts. War is profit for the few. Probably most consumer products are blood-stained. Your house, gas , roads, infrastructure and comfortable high standard of living are all probably blood-stained; a few or many had to die to get it.
Omg I just think like .. erm was that about race? But specifically were they having a larger thing in mind than just what'd been in the middle east I feel like a loser that I condemned someone as if oil was plentiful maybe the two largest countries wanted it and the US should have let history play out we'd had been better for it. Tl;Dr it were nothing to do with race but I think the US should've let things be.
My wife and I were there five years ago. We traveled across the country, and visited Tibet. What an amazing country, everywhere we went! Very clean. Very nice people.
@@martinsonderegger5903 Most people don't see what they cannot understand. This comes from living a comfortable western life lacking historical perspective.
@@martinsonderegger5903 It's not North Korea. You are free to travel anywhere except for parts of Tibet without a special permit. Granted, if you go to certain areas government people will sometimes follow you just to make sure you aren't up to anything fishy, like making sure you're not a journalist wanting to talk to locals in a town where maybe the federal government is doing something locals are unhappy about. And they do have some fake projects. However, all the person said was that it's a beautiful country, which it is. Look up pictures of the Chinese countryside and race paddies. And the people are really kind.
This is the Elon I know and respect. Having visited China, worked with Chinese scientists and engineers, and now partnered to a woman living there all I will say is that China is an amazing country and the Chinese people an amazing culture. I hope we learn to work together. The recent efforts to bring semiconductor processing back to the U.S. is a smart move for instance. I love U.S. ideals, in particular placing freedom on a pedestal. However, I do think the major threat facing America today is less about external economic challenges (like China) and more about the internal moral corrosion injected by the "wild west" of social and TV media into our culture. As Lincoln said in his famous 1838 speech, America's demise would not "come from abroad" but rather would "spring up amongst us".
One of the serious problems is China owning American politicians. We have tons of copper, nickel and cobalt but our politicians block the mining of it so we stay dependent on China.
Well America needs to do something about Semiconductor manufacturing because Taiwan is a huge producer for us and with as weak as the USA is becoming its only a matter of time when China dictates their every move.
Would you agree that entertainment (movies, Netflix, Hollywood) influences our youth and has for over 5 decades. Would you also agree that The CIA has worked with Hollywood. Do you think the creation of the CIA in 1947 was filled with German scientists and Intelligence Officers. Just asking for your opinion
Is Elon aware some believe China will dramatically reduce their population as a result of the one-child policy. If so, will China really have an economy 3x our size?
China's population is collapsing and manufacturing is leaving. The CCP will use war to remain in power as long as possible. They will attempt to take Taiwan within a decade.
I refer you to his laid back, easy going interview with Sorkin. The one where he showed how unhinged he is, & put one mare nail in his Twitter coffin. True genius.
besides being a true humanitarian, he is also a True Patriot that really cares about America and not just those lip service politicians we got at the hill. And we are still talking bs's.
Loved the interview. The interviewer was the perfect interviewer, did not interrupt or talked over the interviewee; what a breath of fresh air! The topic, very interesting 🤓❤
Musk is a very interesting person, from what I can tell. His accomplishments are second to none. Musk seems to be very careful about his speaking, probably thrives for accuracy. Glad this interviewer waited for him to respond without interrupting him. First interviewer I have seen to give Musk the time to explain. Well done.
And he likes verbally dunking on billionaires, trillionaires, and the pols lying and saying stupid things to enslave our nations. Elon's imperfect. I thank my God he's not like the perfect or ideal.
You can tell he actually takes the time to think before he answers. That is important. Anytime someone answers a question without thinking about it, i have to wonder if they even processed the question at all. I think he's a natural born engineer, as every good engineer i have ever had personal contact with took the time to think about a question before answering it.
Elon has the honesty, integrity and common sence, which attributes are missing from many of our "leaders".. I just hope that we will improve and wake up from our self-delusions, Let all the goodness prevail and make things better for ourselves and to everyone else with mutual love and respect. We can all learn from the mistakes of the past.
Nativity knows no bounds. Musk can’t contemplate certain aspects of life. His brain is proving incapable of addressing context outside of causality. And for those who don’t see this as a major problem, you’ll grow into it.
I don't know how he juggles between times to give interviews, read books, tweet, running several large companies, date women and know a little bit about everything enough to have opinions about it. Some may not like him, but he's pretty incredible in terms of time management. UPDATE16July24: I've seen several comments saying anyone can do any of this all at once. And yes, you're right! But the question is, did it make you become a billionaire doing so? Or run companies that launch rockets and build electric cars? 😂
@@Showmetheevidence-, mmm… this spirit they have in common. I like both. Right people appreciate free busy minds, guys who put things straight no matter the mainstream.
Most people ignore the fact that Elon is from South Africa, and was there to see Mandela, Apartheid, and knows the current circumstances of SA. He can compare all that to the US, and other countries he does business with.
He probably does the comparison intrisically by intuition, it is part of his baseline "knowledge of the way the world is" since it is part of his infancy stage
@@focumQuarium And SA is much more prosperous, safe, and productive today. I didn't check the Tesla sales, but that small country should easily convert to EVs.
Two WW2 Russian soldiers were captured by the German Wehrmacht and sent to a German POW camp. One Russian soldier complained about their conditions. The other said ‘things could be worse.. a lot worse! What do you mean worse…how could things be worse? Well, we could be in a Russian POW camp.
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@@benjaminr8961 Lol Soviets were evil to Nazis, as every human being in the world should be. There isn't a bigger shame in the world than when a Nazis sees you as an ally. And the Nazis started seeing US as an ally during the final stages of war. The combined army of France and Britain didn't even put up a worthy fight against the Nazis, why? A single fort in USSR resisted the Nazis, longer than the entire country of France. And Nazis repaid this "kindliness"(fellow white supremacism) by not bombing any of their historical squares and buildings in France and other west and some European countries, while the opposite was happening to USSR and East Europe. Luftwaffe bombed everything that it flew over in USSR. During the siege of Leningrad, the famous amber room of Queen Catherine the great was stolen and demolished, the Bolshoi theatre was bombed, many tsarist era palaces have all gone. Soviets went to great efforts to rebuild the amber room, the Bolshoi theatre and many other palaces. Even today in North America and in west Europe, the ultra right wing nutjobs recite words of Nazi leaders like Joseph Gobbels and even Hitler word for word, and call that protection of values. Did you know that Nazis wanted by Soviet Union for murdering thousands of Jews in concentration camps, became the governing heads of NATO and CIA? I mean, literally the NAZIS wanted for serious war crimes were engulfed back into the "civilized" western family.
Geography plays a much bigger role in world politics than most people realise. If you live in mainland Europe you're at much greater risk of being invaded than north America. The Americans can afford to behave badly and make mistakes around the world because they will probably never be invaded. It's a different story in Europe. Not that I'm excusing the US for Iraq and Afghanistan but they would have thought twice about invading if they didn't have an ocean in-between...
I absolutely hear you but if you look throughout history this is how a lineage of brutal dictatorships begin. People fed up with the status quo who are happy to hand over the reigns to a strong yet benevolent leader. Perhaps he is even a good one. What happens after that is usually chaos. His replacement has all the same powers given to the predecessor but not so much with the benevolence. Democracy is a rare and beautiful (if imperfect) thing that must always be fought for.
Sure, but he is invested in China so can't speak honestly about them without offending Tesla stockholders. I'm sure he knows about tofu dreg construction, the countries China has invaded and the poverty of Chinese peasants. His reference to 'who would you want to be a POW with?' was a subtle dig at the CCP's record I think....
@@arminius6506 Yep. in the last 140 years they had a civil war that killed 20,000,000 people. Then a revolution in 1911. A warlord too over for 80 days in the mid 19-teens. Then the Nationalists. Then another civil war with communists that started in 1927. Then were occupied and enslaved by the Japanese from 1937 until the Americans and Brits rescued them in 1945. Then the civil war again 1945-1949. And after the Communists took over in 1949: 1950s: Mayhem and murder, killing off most of their intelligencia (Hundred Flowers Movement), 1960s: The largest famine in human history 45,000,000 starved to death in 3 years ('50-'61). Then another civil war that killed millions called the Cultural Revolution. And in 1978, with a billion people isolated from the world for 30 yrs (as much as any Amazonian lost tribe), on the verge of starvation, Deng Xiaoping opened China and implemented market reforms. Followed by dead space for about 14 years until the early 1990s when China began to hockey-stick with economic development. And it became the 2nd largest economy around 2005. Now, they have 500+ plus debt to GDP and manufacturing companies are moving to other locations because of high labor costs and policies unfavorable to foreign investors. Now, you can go back thousands of years and see that China's cycle is this: Chaos, Bloody War, New Totalitarian Government wins, Stability, Prosperity, Corruption, Collapse, Chaos. China has been doing that for 5,000 years. So why do you think that will stop now? Because they make TVs?
So is that how re writing The Bible, 21st Century concentration camps, summary executions , 24/7 keeping credit scores by constantly peeping on their own people , having no a culture respectful of the people human rights in a socialist regime of ''happy slaves'' or else... IS now called ''a long history of survival''?. Uhm...Quite a warped and crooked take on reality many would call that instead. ...Shema!!!.
I was born and raised in Germany and I can confirm that people preferred the US over the other allies. However, you cannot draw the conclusion, that this is still the case today - Americans being better than the French or Russians. How people in general treat each other, including their prisoners, doesn't just come from culture. Wealth is also very important and past experiences or emotional involvement. The French and Russians had been at war with Germany before and lost! Humiliation is a feeling that isn't forgotten even after generations. The US just sabotaged the German energy infrastructure by destroying the Nordstrom 2 pipeline. They sanctioned everyone involved in building it, dragging companies and private people involved in the construction into court. Sorry to say, but the US is not our friend. It's not friendship if you control our internal and external affairs. It's not friendly, if we are forced to be a US vassal state.
Do you have evidence that sweden, denmark and even germany dont have? Because they are unable to find who destroyed the pipeline and investigation is still ongoing but for some reason you are adamant in thinking it was america
When I first visited China 1993 they had almost no roads or cars . Just official cars and trucks . Diesel or coal steam trains . I did notice roads , power plants , bridges being built and very little machinery being used . Bamboo scaffolding 😮 It’s a miracle how far they have come . I have noticed almost No change in USA same time span
I recently check the ancient poem of China, came across one of the most famous poet - Li Bai, who was born in AD 701, 1323 yers ago. His poem still very popular in Chinese literature and in high school texbook . His wording still quite easy to understnad even for ordinary Chinese. The culture continuity is amazing. How many US people can read Chinese? How many Chiese can read English? Tells why they never understand China at all.
@@oskarngo9138 No, from the wikipedia article, his family was originally from Gansu, and he comes from a family of merchants. At that time, trade between China and the west via the Silk road is common. By the way, everyone knows East Asian is smarter. Nice try.
funny how Elon mentions the Chinese trains, while in the US they literally choose to give this felon guy money for hyperloop instead of building actual trains thats are proven to work and provides actual value to people. He is so disconnected from reality... or just evil, or both.
Elon can't know everything, and he spends zero time on the legal and intellectual basis of CRT, he should read more before he opens his mouth. If you just read the half dozen axioms re CRT, he's committing many of the errors on what should be obvious starting points. Elon, you're famous for being prepared, so do some reading. Crenshaw 1989 58 page interview, Harvard Law Review, start there.
Elon Musk made the same comment about "conspicuous acts of kindness" when he first commented about the Hamas attack. If they listened to him then, the world would be a safer place. But the mainstream press accused him of antisemitism and pressured him into taking back his words. It is statements like this that show his true intelligence and empathy. I hope more people will listen to him.
The German prisoners of war were much better of in French captivity. After the capture of the Remagen Bridge, the US Army hastily erected dozens of Prisoner of War cages around the bridge-head. The camps were simply open fields surrounded by concertina wire. Those at the Rhine Meadows were situated at Remagen, Bad Kreuznach, Andernach, Buderich, Rheinbach and Sinzig. The German prisoners were hopeful of good treatment from the GIs but in this they were sadly disappointed. Herded into the open spaces like cattle, some were beaten and mistreated. No tents or toilets were supplied. The camps became huge latrines, a sea of urine from one end to the other. They had to sleep in holes in the ground which they dug with their bare hands. In the Bad Kreuznach cage, 560,000 men were interned in an area that could only comfortably hold 45,000. Denied enough food and water, they were forced to eat the grass under their feet and the camps soon became a sea of mud. After the concentration camps were discovered, their treatment became worse as the GIs vented their rage on the hapless prisoners. In the five camps around Bretzenheim, prisoners had to survive on 600-850 calories per day. With bloated bellies and teeth falling out, they died by the thousands. During the two and a half months (April-May, 1945) when the camps were under American control, a total of 18,100 prisoners died from malnutrition, disease and exposure. This extremely harsh treatment at the hands of the Americans resulted in the deaths of over 50,000 German prisoners in the Rhine Meadows camps, in the months just before and after the war ended.
He also helped in the Ukranian /Russian conflict (Sat-internet) and also suggested a GOOD solution. Now the outcome for the Ukrainians and the rest of the world is gonna be MUCH worse!
You said the problem right there. Isreals biggest defense is not the iron dome. It's their ability to silence any criticism or accountability with one word. Antisemitism.
Greece didnt exist then as a state. The term "Greece" is like today we say "West". Athens and Sparta, cause of their big contribution to the civilization, wanted their "rightful" dominance. That blinded them for local domination, and made them ingore the biggest enemy, who was Persia. Thankfully, Philips and his son Alexander came and formed the first western state, the Macedonian Empire and the first actual Greek State. The lesson is, dont be blinded by your previous success, you need to work together for the common goal. If you fail to do it, someone else will do it for you, while you both destoy yourselves. Thats the lesson of the peloponnesian war.
@@inyomoufizaWabbit Of course they are. All they have to do is cross the southern (or northern) border. Don't assume that they're friendly to us, since we're not vetting anyone.
Ancient Greek stoicism is rooted in the belief that fate is predetermined and while you cant change it you can foresee it if you condition yourself to accept it. Theres no point crying over spilt milk even if you know its going to spill tomorrow
Greece, seeing the war coming and not being able to avoid it reminds me of China and their greed and quest for more power in warning to take Taiwan who wants to remain free.
It is not beyond suspicion that some people are required to be extremely diplomatic when speaking of world events and conditions regardless of reality.
Can't expect it to be the truth when they won't speak freely on a topic to the public. Very dark realities not spoken here, which I get lex asking for the positives. But the positives aren't positives for the US are they? Because much of Chinese positive growth also involves taking the legs out of US. The US economy is flatlining with help from Chinese internal influence. Am I wrong? I think the US population should be made fully aware of what's happening, and truth needs to be spoken as accurately as possible, diplomatic or not.
Nothing really needs to be talked about. The reality is known. How to respond is the tricky part because people don't react positively they usually choose judgment, which is counterproductive. The "controllers" in China are predictable while being unpredictable.
You are experiencing cognitive dissonance. You hear information that does not fit your world view. Instead of being open to new information, you immediately discredit that information. Call the source a bot, 50 cent, or under coercion. This way, you can keep your bias without accepting logically sound new information.
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I love he mentioned the trains. My God... when I was in Japan and rode the Yamanote line, I almost wept. Chicago's "L" and Metra are just decades behind. It's not just a joke... it's embarrassing.
Hi. I haven't been on the Japanese trains. I heard they are very good 👍 Just like to show you a normal typical Chinese train station for comparison : th-cam.com/video/G0xtfRf16a4/w-d-xo.html
1. Trains must remain slow and unflexible for the car industrial complex to thrive in the US. 2. The automobile, as was the horse, is marketed as a truer symbol of freedom and capitalism compared to the socialism an imposing train conveys. This is simply how the US works
When the comment that Chinese think 10 times more of China...... This is correct, and funilly enough it is what all governments should be doing. Government has ONE job, look after its own citizens.
But the problem is it becomes propaganda to teach them to hate us. Toddlers are taught to hate and kill Americans in schools in China. Wanting to be the best you can be as one country is one thing thinking you're superior over everybody else is another.
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@@morbino1 You seam to be a very intelligent and know more about me I want to give you the honor of having me on signal so we can talk more is that ok by you ?
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They are. China is absolutely preparing for it, and has been for decades. On the other hand, here in America we are far more focused on gender identity and diversity. If you were a third party, who would you bet on to win that war? Be honest with yourself, not patriotic, what is your honest answer?
Putin literally said this in his interview with Tucker Carlson - that war was unavoidable so he had to make the first move (regarding Ukraine). To quote Elon Musk on Putin "I'm nowhere near as rich as Putin"
The underlying nature of humans is NOT goodness. But that is why "conspicuous acts of kindness" are so important - specifically because it goes against our underlying nature.
Having visited China 3 times for stays from 15 to 23 days, I must agree that the Chinese ambition and drive is unmatched in North America. I seen it first hand in factories from the Pearl delta to Shanghai and inland. They are not just working for this moment but also have the future generations progress in their sights. That said I am hearing about this undercurrent by a new generation that wants to do away with old values around work and persue leisure. Does that sound familiar?
Next time you go, you should stay in that shithole for good & then see how great it is. They will always be behind the US in anything that really matters & always have been. For as long as they have existed they have accomplished little, except for stealing everyone else's ideas & still can't get it right.
Bruh the young have no future there. The old are working in their retirement so the young don't have career opportunities, housing is completely unaffordable in cities, and people young now will not have a pension because of the heavily declined birth rates. Everything is controlled and shit painted over. Come on man this stuff is obvious.
I've been visiting China for over a decade, and I have to admit the infrastructure they have is impressive especially when compared to the West, they've made massive leaps in building up the country. Like many other Asian countries such as South Korea, Singapore and Japan they've really embraced modern technology as a way to advance their economy. People don't distrust modern tech like folk tend to do in the West and I believe it's why Asian will advance past Western countries in the near future.
Probably because a huge amount of development in China has come in the last 20 years. A lot of western infrastructure reached a high level back in the 70's and it's always harder to tear vast infrastructure down and replace it than build it modern from scratch. Modernising what we already have and use is a slower process. And some of the older stuff is still lovely to have around.. but when it comes to public transport, sanitation and services.. would be nice if that had been kept on top of relentlessly.
They have a lot of people to employ and only so many railroad lines and unoccupied cities that they can build. They must increase domestic consumption without depressing their currency. It's a real problem. One of their approaches is the "belt and road" making massive loans that often can't be repaid. Think about the problems that can result from that. The world is.
I remember reading an article in the 90s the US military had consumed as much money as the renewal of all the buidings and infrastructure in the whole country would have cost . Imagine every building, bridge, railway road etc etc etc brand new instead they chose to spend it on the military while the infrastructure of the country is now falling to pieces. On the other hand as Musk says the infrastructure in China is second to none
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@@larrybrophy9093 Go visit and see for yourself. Elon did. I wouldn't say a dish is no good without tasting it myself. Otherwise all you have is perpetual unsubstantiated doubt.
Eisenhower warned us about the "military-industrial (Congressional) complex". Instead we twist ourselves into knots over pronouns and other such silliness.
He is American.... but he is also Canadian and South African. In fact, he has more family relationship and historic ties to Canada and SA vs the USA. He is American for the business opportunities. Although he is right that there are very impressive buildings in Shanghai and Beijing, the tier 2 cities are not so impressive. Also, something about Chinese infrastructural philosophy is that modern structures are not made to last. They are made to be torn down and rebuilt in 20 to 25 years. There are economic stimulation and land ownership reasons for this standard. This somewhat temporary standard is seen in the very bones of the structural/building materials in Chinese construction such as rebar, concrete, and other fundamental building blocks. Often the standards of these materials, which are for export, are higher than domestically used materials. As an example, rebar exported to N. America will often not meet the engineering safety standards of domestic rebar made here. Consider again, the domestic building materials are even worse than stuff being exported. To metaphorically state, these "grand" architectural displays in Shanghai and Beijing, are built on foundations of sand which will have a comparatively short lifespan. These building facts are motivated by the lack of property rights and lease ownership schemes imposed by the CCP. Developers and builders are not motivated to build things to last.
China Building ,railroad and highway are impressive in looks, but there is a problem. Building,railroad and highway are not safe. Elon needs to speak the full truth. All their building and highways are all collasping. They do quick labour and its unsafe. He has his Telsa business in China so i guess he does not have the power to speak negatively about China. The chineese govt would kick him out. So he has to speak well of China.
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If you know the history of China you will understand the "one China policy." As it says in the beginning of the "Romance of the Three Kingdoms," --- "The Empire long divided must unite, and long united must divide. Ever it so has been." And each time it united or divided 10s of millions died.
@@21sausage9 There is none. This is their karma. Look into the history of China it is drenched in blood and has always been that way. Many of the 10 bloodiest wars in the world (that you never heard of) were fought in China. Another thing is that China is a very old civilization while the USA is only 250 years old. By comparison, the civil war (War of the Three Kingdoms) between the fall of the Han dynasty and the rise of the Jin dynasty lasted about 100 years leading to mass depopulation. 100 years is 40% of the total life span of the USA. China's history goes back thousands of years BC so 250 years is just a blip for them. And India has an even longer age, it was already ancient at the time of the Pharaohs.
one China policy is communist propaganda because if they truly cared about the one china then they should have claimed back all the land that were illegally taken by russia and the soviet, they dont because its a communist country
That would be a fascinating talk. Zeihan does put some contradicting information out there, like on the one hand he talks about the population collapse, on the other hand he talks about massive unemployment. Economically they cannot both be limiting factors.
Very wrong fact about China’s inquisition. Communist China occupied Tibet and killed more than a million Tibetans. There are so many Tibetan refugees now third generation but still refugees struggling because of China’s occupation of Tibet.
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Elon will keep lying, manipulating, & under delivering any way he can to grab the most profit at any cost. That's all he's ever done & the only thing he's good at.
I like Elon, but his romanticised take on America's historical actions is questionable. The Marshall plan was designed to create resistance to the communistic threat from the soviet union. NATO was set-up the following year in 1949. In 1951 The Marshall Plan was replaced by the more appropriately named Mutual Security Act which speaks for itself and shows the true intent of The Marshall Plan. The US involvement in WW2, it's rebuilding of Western Europe post WW2 and pretty much everything they've ever done have been motivated by geo-political strategy - not benevolence.
@@dixztube - I think his take is selective, and I think nobody has challenged his position. Maybe they're afraid to. As I say, I like Musk, but I find some of his views... curious.
@@youtoob1811 I don’t like him. He’s impressive in those fields but lot of these business types are propped up by a financialized market , government rates or lack of, and culture warriors who follow them. I think he’s compromised with china big time and a total hypocrite
One should question everything about Elon, because he is nothing but a partially functioning idiot & mainly spews complete nonsense to those dumb enough to listen to his nonsense & lies.
"This isn't about Ukraine defending itself, this is about a larger plan by the collective West, by NATO, by the United States to strategically defeat Russia." ~Scott Ritter
The book Musk refers to is actually entitled 'Destined for War.' I read the book and noticed that the cover review blurbs kept mentioning The Thucydides Trap as if it were the title of the book. I think what happened is that the original title was changed prior to publication (for the obvious reason that it is difficult to pronounce) and that the reviewers had received pre-pub copies that were under the original title. The implication I draw from this is that Musk was on the list of pre-pub reviewers.
for a broader perspective, and if you have the patience, a channel called Professor Hamamoto is far more worthy than the subscription numbers suggest. More videos on his other channel, 'Darrell Y. Hamamoto, PhD.
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@@wowcnmovie are there even any reasons to take land? Japan's entire political story gets written by the US. Any honest African leader that refused to sell his country's natural resources in an unfair trade value was killed by the US, and then a US puppet leader would be put in his place. By the time of mid 20th century, US didn't have to physically take over lands. It just wasn't logical. The warfare have changed by that time. And also, Elon Musk clearly covers up the fact that US was openly said that they have plans to nuke North Korea. But since the Soviets also had nukes by that time, the plan was dropped. The only thing that prevented US from nuking DPRK was the Soviet possession of Nukes. How is this not inquisitive?
*acquisitive... meaning to acquire, as in take over a country as in ownership / direct colonization . The U.S. has however fought many proxy wars to put their preferred leader in a foreign office and affect world events that way.
Woodrow Wilson a Democratic entered World War l. FDR a Democrat entered World War II. Harry Truman a Democrat started the Korean War. JFK a Democratic started the Vietnam War. LBJ a Democrat continued the Vietnam War. Jimmy Carter a Democrat started a conflict with Iran. Joe Biden a Democrat supports the Ukraine War. Joe Biden a Democrat supports Hamas in the Middle East War. Does anyone here see a pattern developing?
Making crap cars that are poorly designed, don't work & rockets that just blow up wasting taxpayer billions saves nothing. Look what he could have done with the 20 billion he wasted paying too much for Twitter. He saves nothing & is a liar & conman.
When I think of China I think of an advanced country with a rich cultural history that does not tolerate a difference of opinion and permits no criticism of the government. I've never been there but I've met people who grew up there and worked there. My opinion, I've not been there myself, just what I've heard and read.
Chaos followed by gradually progressive rigidity to the point of immobility followed by revolution/civil war, chaos, etc. and the whole thing repeats...such is the long history of China.
As an Asian American living in Taiwan, I have a lot to say but I will just say this, for those who have never visited or lived in another country (outside of their own country, and I don't only mean for Americans but also for Chinese and other people from other countries) I say if you have the funds and the resources to do so you should. It will greatly open your mind to the world but you have to have an open mind.
Exactly - the reason countries stopped being acquistive around mid 20th century was not morality but the fact that economic domination was much more sustainable and profitable that acquistions
You confuse yourself. These were Europeans. If we sent tomorrow people to Mars, they wont be Martians. After 500 years they will be yes, but not the first 100-200.
@Jimarass No, you're confused about American history. United States of America Declaration of Independence was 1776. Most Americans were of European descent but established themselves as a separate nation from England before 1800s acquisitions. The people previously living in those acquired lands were in many different tribes and didn't consider themselves to be American at that time. Your hypothetical Mars comparison doesn't work.
@@teeconsigliano7631 I will dive deeper. Do you see a Roman nowadays? Can you perceive why you cant? They ruled the west for 2K years almost. And none of them is here? Finding out why you cant see one, you will undertand what I mean. If you cant find out, no matter what I say, wont matter.
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Does Elon Musk know about Monroe doctrine and how USA dealt with Latin America. Does he know about neocolonialism as opposed to colonialism, the later more cumbersome with administrative responsibilities while former gets the benefit of facilitated businesses without administrative responsibilities.
Man, what Germans did in Russia, and what at all happened in Europe in WWII? Of course prisoners of war were treated differently. What about Guantanamo? Agent orange? Napalm? Nukes? USSR lost 27 million in that war, USA 0.4 million, no civilian casualties. USA, Britain and France combined had less casualties than Serbs. Conclusions that are not taking into account basic facts.
The USSR-German nonaggression pact that allowed Germany to develop its war machine on Soviet soil was a disastrous mistake by Stalin that almost destroyed the USSR. All the world saw it happening and did nothing. There were several clear opportunities to nip the conflict in the bud but the western democracies again did nothing. Japan invaded China in acts of horrible genocide. The world did nothing. Would NATO do better now? History always repeats itself...eventually.
This is really a rhetorical question. Personally, I wonder how China would get along without spoiled Americans buying Chinese goods because probably 90% of our stuff in our house came from China. Can you imagine the end of that income for China?
The UK took over countries with might, the USA learned you didn't need to do that and could take over a country with economics. China is doing exactly that - see Belt/Road Initiative (BRI). So, they're ALREADY taking over the world by hoovering up countries in Africa, and elsewhere - investing in projects across Europe too. It seems to me, The West is complicit in the rise of China, the UK for example is a subscriber to the BRI project. So when we talk about "doing something about it". Yes, we could, we could cut them off economically, but the greed machine of corporate investors will not accept any loss in their bottom line - thus capitalistic forces prevent China being stopped. China is our fault - or at least our leaders, both business and political.
@@donn.4766 - I never said it was wrong, but it is "bad" from the perspective of people who live in The West, because our quality of life will diminish.
@@youtoob1811 so you dont want to see anyone else in the world thrive and be successful? There is enough resources, food and energy for everyone to be comfortable. Others being successful shouldnt hinder your life. Its the leaders and people in power that keep others down.
I beg to differ, usa not inquisitive? why don't they close all their military bases in other people countries? And ur darn right, people don't forget...
The assumption that Elon makes is that the economy of China will be 2 to 3 times larger than the U.S. I would suggest to Elon that he put some effort into learning economics of nations. At the current time the U.S. economy is growing and the Chinese economy is shrinking, many say collapsing.
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Yes he is, he is the biggest idiot that does nothing but blow his own horn, trying to convince everyone he is smart. He isn't. All he ever says is blah, blah blah & people are getting wise to it because it means nothing except that he is tarded.
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Like Elon a lot. If the mainstream press actually got the facts straight before jumping on a headline the world would be a better place. less people would be using social media to try to get some truth.
"They saw it coming but still couldn't avoid it." This assumes they wanted to avoid it. War has been good for the US, or at least our mythology would like us to believe.
You made yourself a nation from a fully surplus economy to a deficit ridden struggling superpower, and here you are talking about "war has been good", war is only good if you can get more than what youv put in, have you managed to at least do that? No. How is war good?
@@agamliandy7843 well the military industrial complex has always been there, doing the same thing from day one, with all honesty imho they are not the major problem in terms of the US as a nation, e.g the marshall plan, was extremely successful and the US benefited heavily upon, one could even argue marshalls plan solidified the very foundation of the superpower.
@chriscain7333 The difference is when those people with interests use war as a way to siphon and distribute wealth among themselves. Trillions dollars of taxpayers' money for endless wars fighting "boogeyman" Washington being called washing town for a reason.
@@chriscain7333 Yea, good point. After saving the fairly worthless continent from being obliterated, then the US became the main reason that it was rebuilt. Should have just left that burned out wasteland as it was. If they are not intelligent to stop creating world wars then they are not worth the effort required to keep around.
Great talk - as always🙏. Interesting to hear Mr Musk’s view on free speech in China, spiritual and non competitive arts of the Chinese civilization (Qi Gong) and the benefits of holistic healing methods such as acupuncture with a view to depoliticizing and restoring US -China relations for global peace 🇱🇰🙏🧘♀️
Elon is the Undisputed Genius of our time. I have no judgement I will not agree or disagree. All I'm saying is that nothing that he ever says has Not been very well thought out In mere moments, when most of us would take far longer to process the possible consequences of our words.
There is a cultural divide between China and the US. We love freedom and they love security. We need to understand this and find a way to cooperate. The important thing is to keep the world economy going. We need this both for ourselves and the environment and the poor
Outsider looking in: Advancement stresses humanity. Maintain and sustain is all that’s needed for humanity to succeed. Greed is the catalyst. Napkin note:
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Russia could not have survived the second World War without United States weapons supplies and aid. The United States had the bomb before Russia and could have made more and used them well before Russia was able to acquire them. Russia was an evil country then and still is. Stalin starved 12 million Ukrainians to death in the early 1930’s . The United States never acknowledged that during WWII because of the aid we were giving Russia to help defeat Germany. Most Americans would have been horrified by that. Now you know why Ukrainians hate Russia and will never forget or trust them.
"Justice to the left of you, justice to the right, speak when you are spoken to, but don't pretend you're right. This life's not for living, it's for fighting and for wars, no matter what the truth is, hold on to what is yours." Song by Yes "Hold On" 1983 (Anderson, Rabin and Squire.)
Sun Tzu's, "The Art of War" 5th Century China. 1. The art of war teaches us not to rely not on the likelyhood of the enemy 's not comming but on our own readyness to recieve him; not on the chance of his attacking, but rather the fact that we have made our position unassailable. BRILLIANT STRATEGY THEN AND NOW. STILL WIDELY READ PUBLISHED AND AVAILABLE. GOOD ADVICE FOR LIFE IN GENERAL. Thank you for this interview, I always enjoy Elon Musk, and will check out this book.
There infrastructure is new. Ours is much older and we have a problem fixing and repairing … You should have been around when the Nations held Americans in high esteem. It didn’t last all that long but we could hold our heads high when we walked around Europe. ❤❤
Elon claims to have studied Chinese history, yet states that China has never been “acquisitive”. Apparently, he somehow overlooked China’s Yaun Dynasty, the most acquisitive power in history. Likewise, China’s neighbor Vietnam serves as a good example of China’s acquisitive nature, having been colonized & otherwise overlorded for a millennium, starting with the Han Dynasty in 110 BC. Or, how about Qing Dynasty occupation & control of Korea? As for the CCP, China’s invasion & annexation of Tibet in 1950 is the very definition of acquisitive. Of course, Elon could never openly discuss that if he hopes to continue doing business in China.
We are talking about the current China’s governance which has nothing to do with American imperialism or soft power domination. China looks at other countries as partners for economic growth in a peaceful way!
People just think they are adversaries, they are all working for total communism. "The highest art of warfare is not to fight at all but to subvert anything of value in the country of your enemy until such time that the perception of reality of your enemy is screwed up to such an extent that he does not perceive you as an enemy." - Yuri Bezmenov
truth is I get the feeling that the plan is a centralized gov powered by high powered Ai and meritocracy style global gov is the plan.. certainly not fighting eachother on a high level.. and that may be for the best look America/ europe / Canada today.. disaster
Some say the American civil war was a matter of economics. But when I propose that as a possibility to my friends they don’t want to hear it, they assert it was only to release the slaves.
The Civil War was about the Morrill tariff. Lincoln as soon as he had treasury issued greenbacks could have rebated the South. Acts of kindness rather than punitive. The north wanted to industrialize and the south didn't want to be taxed.
How much potential is there for future conflict/war between with the United States and China?
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America is fat and lazy, people are incredibly overpaid for menial jobs. America's working class will not fight for fat beurocrats. I see this developing into a nuclear problem because U.S. is weak beyond measure. If you can't win fair you cheat. Ive made minimum wage my entire life from age 13-31, I've been working since I was 4 years old on the farm. I've had many jobs and have more skills than anyone I've met. The facade of success that people hide behind disgusts me. People make 100k+/year and have no skills. Hard work is not rewarded, waste and inefficiency is. U.S. is a sewage dump.
It's less "potential" and more a guarantee, barring a miracle.
Many consumer and industrial commodities are ONLY made in China. How can the US go to war with the country we're completely and utterly dependent on?
Unbridled capitalism destroys the world, communism stifles the majority and wealth is controlled by the empire and gives to the few ass kissing snobbish ones only. What about socialism? I don't know even how it works.😅 😇
The problem with humans is greed, luxury and hunger for power, they seek and accumulate more than they need, even if it at the expense and destruction of whole community. Buddy the war never stopped and it is ongoing. Every citizen on earth is blindfolded and ignorant of the blood sucking cartels instigating civil wars and conflicts. War is profit for the few. Probably most consumer products are blood-stained. Your house, gas , roads, infrastructure and comfortable high standard of living are all probably blood-stained; a few or many had to die to get it.
Imagine where the US could be if it didn’t piss away 14 trillion on wars and added debt!
Omg I just think like .. erm was that about race? But specifically were they having a larger thing in mind than just what'd been in the middle east I feel like a loser that I condemned someone as if oil was plentiful maybe the two largest countries wanted it and the US should have let history play out we'd had been better for it.
Tl;Dr it were nothing to do with race but I think the US should've let things be.
America's list of stupid is way longer than that.
The US economy would collapse without war. That money didn't just evaporate.
This is so true we would only be $20 trillion in debt instead of $34 trillion
Donald Rumsfeld took America’s cash and set it all on fire 🔥 😂😂. Because blame him.
And he pocketed plenty for him and his family.
My wife and I were there five years ago. We traveled across the country, and visited Tibet. What an amazing country, everywhere we went! Very clean. Very nice people.
Well do you think you would be able to see something else that a dictator regime would you not want to see? Are you thst nsive
What was your experience in China like? @@martinsonderegger5903
@@martinsonderegger5903 Most people don't see what they cannot understand. This comes from living a comfortable western life lacking historical perspective.
Sounds like they need to be flooded with African and Middle eastern people.
@@martinsonderegger5903 It's not North Korea. You are free to travel anywhere except for parts of Tibet without a special permit. Granted, if you go to certain areas government people will sometimes follow you just to make sure you aren't up to anything fishy, like making sure you're not a journalist wanting to talk to locals in a town where maybe the federal government is doing something locals are unhappy about. And they do have some fake projects. However, all the person said was that it's a beautiful country, which it is. Look up pictures of the Chinese countryside and race paddies. And the people are really kind.
This is the Elon I know and respect. Having visited China, worked with Chinese scientists and engineers, and now partnered to a woman living there all I will say is that China is an amazing country and the Chinese people an amazing culture. I hope we learn to work together. The recent efforts to bring semiconductor processing back to the U.S. is a smart move for instance. I love U.S. ideals, in particular placing freedom on a pedestal. However, I do think the major threat facing America today is less about external economic challenges (like China) and more about the internal moral corrosion injected by the "wild west" of social and TV media into our culture. As Lincoln said in his famous 1838 speech, America's demise would not "come from abroad" but rather would "spring up amongst us".
what kind of freedom do you have in the us if you cant call a man a man and a woman a woman? you dont even know what gender you are
One of the serious problems is China owning American politicians. We have tons of copper, nickel and cobalt but our politicians block the mining of it so we stay dependent on China.
Well America needs to do something about Semiconductor manufacturing because Taiwan is a huge producer for us and with as weak as the USA is becoming its only a matter of time when China dictates their every move.
Would you agree that entertainment (movies, Netflix, Hollywood) influences our youth and has for over 5 decades. Would you also agree that The CIA has worked with Hollywood. Do you think the creation of the CIA in 1947 was filled with German scientists and Intelligence Officers. Just asking for your opinion
Who owns the media? Done on purpose by careful design.
In the US we have insane social issues like, "how many genders are there?" No chance China will out compete us there 😂
Is Elon aware some believe China will dramatically reduce their population as a result of the one-child policy. If so, will China really have an economy 3x our size?
..silly rabbits everywhere
🐰weeeeeeeeee❕
The world is thankful. The more internal issues the US has the less of a chance of the US starting another war out of boredom.
China's population is collapsing and manufacturing is leaving. The CCP will use war to remain in power as long as possible. They will attempt to take Taiwan within a decade.
In China, they started to banned beautiful women online and girly looking guys.
The more I see of Elon the more I like him. His manor is so easy going; easy to listen to
I refer you to his laid back, easy going interview with Sorkin. The one where he showed how unhinged he is, & put one mare nail in his Twitter coffin. True genius.
This interview is the reason I’m not a fan of Elon.
As someone who’s also on the spectrum I actually have a hard time following his commentary and have to turn on closed captioning🤔
This shows how braindead you are, not even hearing what BS he is spewing... "US hasn't been acquisitive"... Right!!!
besides being a true humanitarian, he is also a True Patriot that really cares about America and not just those lip service politicians we got at the hill. And we are still talking bs's.
Loved the interview. The interviewer was the perfect interviewer, did not interrupt or talked over the interviewee; what a breath of fresh air! The topic, very interesting 🤓❤
Very inspiring interview
Very inspiring interview
Elon is a very smart man, as we all know. But his retention of everything he reads is amazing. That's what makes him so interesting.
He's lost his *mojo*
@@joncandice4339 Hi #bot
Musk is a very interesting person, from what I can tell. His accomplishments are second to none. Musk seems to be very careful about his speaking, probably thrives for accuracy. Glad this interviewer waited for him to respond without interrupting him. First interviewer I have seen to give Musk the time to explain. Well done.
And he likes verbally dunking on billionaires, trillionaires, and the pols lying and saying stupid things to enslave our nations. Elon's imperfect. I thank my God he's not like the perfect or ideal.
He has a stamer. Which is why he has a particular way of speaking. He has spoken about this in the past. He uses a technique not to stamer.
You can tell he actually takes the time to think before he answers. That is important. Anytime someone answers a question without thinking about it, i have to wonder if they even processed the question at all. I think he's a natural born engineer, as every good engineer i have ever had personal contact with took the time to think about a question before answering it.
The more I listen to Elon, the more I like him.
Elon has the honesty, integrity and common sence, which attributes are missing from many of our "leaders".. I just hope that we will improve and wake up from our self-delusions, Let all the goodness prevail and make things better for ourselves and to everyone else with mutual love and respect. We can all learn from the mistakes of the past.
@@GeorgeOfZala idd.
And the more we see what he really does & mainly doesn't do, the more any thinking person hates this idiot.
Nativity knows no bounds. Musk can’t contemplate certain aspects of life. His brain is proving incapable of addressing context outside of causality. And for those who don’t see this as a major problem, you’ll grow into it.
@@GeorgeOfZalaDon’t be fooled. Wants to own everything ..which is bad
Thank you for this interview! Mr Musk’s wisdom and knowledge about the Chinese history and culture is commendable! He has my respect!
❤❤❤ from me
I don't know how he juggles between times to give interviews, read books, tweet, running several large companies, date women and know a little bit about everything enough to have opinions about it. Some may not like him, but he's pretty incredible in terms of time management.
UPDATE16July24: I've seen several comments saying anyone can do any of this all at once. And yes, you're right! But the question is, did it make you become a billionaire doing so? Or run companies that launch rockets and build electric cars? 😂
Yes. Trump even more for a 78 y.o. man.
@@pierreschaub1614wtf does this have to do with anything?
@@Showmetheevidence-, mmm… this spirit they have in common. I like both. Right people appreciate free busy minds, guys who put things straight no matter the mainstream.
Those women's are lucky just to have a piece of his time. 🎉
Well, he hasn't slept a wink in the last 25 years. 😂
Most people ignore the fact that Elon is from South Africa, and was there to see Mandela, Apartheid, and knows the current circumstances of SA. He
can compare all that to the US, and other countries he does business with.
He probably does the comparison intrisically by intuition, it is part of his baseline "knowledge of the way the world is" since it is part of his infancy stage
Your comment doesn’t have a point.
The situation in SA is dire and is happening here now too. 😢
His heritage was in the wrong side of history, as far as SA is concerned. They weren't really good guys you know :D
@@focumQuarium And SA is much more prosperous, safe, and productive today. I didn't check the Tesla sales, but that small country should easily convert to EVs.
Two WW2 Russian soldiers were captured by the German Wehrmacht and sent to a German POW camp. One Russian soldier complained about their conditions. The other said ‘things could be worse.. a lot worse! What do you mean worse…how could things be worse? Well, we could be in a Russian POW camp.
After what the S.S. did to the Soviets, who would they prefer to surrender to?
The soviets were evil to everyone not just Germans
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@@benjaminr8961 Lol Soviets were evil to Nazis, as every human being in the world should be. There isn't a bigger shame in the world than when a Nazis sees you as an ally. And the Nazis started seeing US as an ally during the final stages of war. The combined army of France and Britain didn't even put up a worthy fight against the Nazis, why? A single fort in USSR resisted the Nazis, longer than the entire country of France. And Nazis repaid this "kindliness"(fellow white supremacism) by not bombing any of their historical squares and buildings in France and other west and some European countries, while the opposite was happening to USSR and East Europe. Luftwaffe bombed everything that it flew over in USSR. During the siege of Leningrad, the famous amber room of Queen Catherine the great was stolen and demolished, the Bolshoi theatre was bombed, many tsarist era palaces have all gone. Soviets went to great efforts to rebuild the amber room, the Bolshoi theatre and many other palaces.
Even today in North America and in west Europe, the ultra right wing nutjobs recite words of Nazi leaders like Joseph Gobbels and even Hitler word for word, and call that protection of values. Did you know that Nazis wanted by Soviet Union for murdering thousands of Jews in concentration camps, became the governing heads of NATO and CIA? I mean, literally the NAZIS wanted for serious war crimes were engulfed back into the "civilized" western family.
Well it was not only the Germans that were treated so nicely by the Soviets..
Geography plays a much bigger role in world politics than most people realise. If you live in mainland Europe you're at much greater risk of being invaded than north America. The Americans can afford to behave badly and make mistakes around the world because they will probably never be invaded. It's a different story in Europe. Not that I'm excusing the US for Iraq and Afghanistan but they would have thought twice about invading if they didn't have an ocean in-between...
I trust him much more than our politicians.
Some of them
I absolutely hear you but if you look throughout history this is how a lineage of brutal dictatorships begin.
People fed up with the status quo who are happy to hand over the reigns to a strong yet benevolent leader. Perhaps he is even a good one.
What happens after that is usually chaos. His replacement has all the same powers given to the predecessor but not so much with the benevolence.
Democracy is a rare and beautiful (if imperfect) thing that must always be fought for.
@@saffire301
USA?
Democracy??
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Sure, but he is invested in China so can't speak honestly about them without offending Tesla stockholders.
I'm sure he knows about tofu dreg construction, the countries China has invaded and the poverty of Chinese peasants.
His reference to 'who would you want to be a POW with?' was a subtle dig at the CCP's record I think....
It’s a luxury listening to this man
❤❤❤ from me
China has a long history of survival 😊
But they've had 4 governments in the past 110 years...living memory.
@@lawrenceallen8096 And see where they're now.
@@arminius6506 Yep. in the last 140 years they had a civil war that killed 20,000,000 people. Then a revolution in 1911. A warlord too over for 80 days in the mid 19-teens. Then the Nationalists. Then another civil war with communists that started in 1927. Then were occupied and enslaved by the Japanese from 1937 until the Americans and Brits rescued them in 1945. Then the civil war again 1945-1949. And after the Communists took over in 1949: 1950s: Mayhem and murder, killing off most of their intelligencia (Hundred Flowers Movement), 1960s: The largest famine in human history 45,000,000 starved to death in 3 years ('50-'61). Then another civil war that killed millions called the Cultural Revolution. And in 1978, with a billion people isolated from the world for 30 yrs (as much as any Amazonian lost tribe), on the verge of starvation, Deng Xiaoping opened China and implemented market reforms. Followed by dead space for about 14 years until the early 1990s when China began to hockey-stick with economic development. And it became the 2nd largest economy around 2005. Now, they have 500+ plus debt to GDP and manufacturing companies are moving to other locations because of high labor costs and policies unfavorable to foreign investors. Now, you can go back thousands of years and see that China's cycle is this: Chaos, Bloody War, New Totalitarian Government wins, Stability, Prosperity, Corruption, Collapse, Chaos. China has been doing that for 5,000 years. So why do you think that will stop now? Because they make TVs?
And midland existence.
So is that how re writing The Bible, 21st Century concentration camps, summary executions , 24/7 keeping credit scores by constantly peeping on their own people , having no a culture respectful of the people human rights in a socialist regime of ''happy slaves'' or else... IS now called ''a long history of survival''?. Uhm...Quite a warped and crooked take on reality many would call that instead.
...Shema!!!.
I was born and raised in Germany and I can confirm that people preferred the US over the other allies.
However, you cannot draw the conclusion, that this is still the case today - Americans being better than the French or Russians.
How people in general treat each other, including their prisoners, doesn't just come from culture. Wealth is also very important and past experiences or emotional involvement.
The French and Russians had been at war with Germany before and lost! Humiliation is a feeling that isn't forgotten even after generations.
The US just sabotaged the German energy infrastructure by destroying the Nordstrom 2 pipeline. They sanctioned everyone involved in building it, dragging companies and private people involved in the construction into court.
Sorry to say, but the US is not our friend. It's not friendship if you control our internal and external affairs.
It's not friendly, if we are forced to be a US vassal state.
And also being a POW captured today by Americans is surely not what it was after WW2. Guantanamo Bay?????!!!!!!!!
Agreed.
Honest
Do you have evidence that sweden, denmark and even germany dont have? Because they are unable to find who destroyed the pipeline and investigation is still ongoing but for some reason you are adamant in thinking it was america
agree!
When I first visited China 1993 they had almost no roads or cars . Just official cars and trucks . Diesel or coal steam trains .
I did notice roads , power plants , bridges being built and very little machinery being used . Bamboo scaffolding 😮
It’s a miracle how far they have come . I have noticed almost No change in USA same time span
我是中國人 你說的 讓我想起小時候的社會狀況 和現在有顯著差別 彷彿兩個世界。
@@Steven-oq7dx translate ?
@@Gadfly2025 Just click the "translate" button.
I recently check the ancient poem of China, came across one of the most famous poet - Li Bai, who was born in AD 701, 1323 yers ago. His poem still very popular in Chinese literature and in high school texbook . His wording still quite easy to understnad even for ordinary Chinese. The culture continuity is amazing. How many US people can read Chinese? How many Chiese can read English? Tells why they never understand China at all.
And most likely he was Caucasian.
@@uncois Li Bai is not white.... LOL
not highschool, mate, primary school. Li Bai's poems are in the textbook of 1st graders in China. that's the beauty of the Chinese language.
@@phillip76
he was from the far western part of China, in or near Xinjiang region...
... their skin color, like today, is more white than East Asian..
@@oskarngo9138
No, from the wikipedia article, his family was originally from Gansu, and he comes from a family of merchants. At that time, trade between China and the west via the Silk road is common.
By the way, everyone knows East Asian is smarter. Nice try.
the difference between this interview and the one with don the lemon is this has substance and d.l. 's was more like tabloid
Elon interviews are so much better when the interviewer comes in already realizing Elon is the smarter man.
funny how Elon mentions the Chinese trains, while in the US they literally choose to give this felon guy money for hyperloop instead of building actual trains thats are proven to work and provides actual value to people. He is so disconnected from reality... or just evil, or both.
Don lemon is a human waste. He’d be long dead in any sort of survival. Elon has brains … or at least can garner interest
Elon can't know everything, and he spends zero time on the legal and intellectual basis of CRT, he should read more before he opens his mouth. If you just read the half dozen axioms re CRT, he's committing many of the errors on what should be obvious starting points. Elon, you're famous for being prepared, so do some reading. Crenshaw 1989 58 page interview, Harvard Law Review, start there.
@@MattDunlapCO
Lex is a VERY smart man.
This is just 2 friends having a discussion.
Great post. Also look at UAE and Middle east !! New architecture all the time !! Beautiful !!
Elon Musk made the same comment about "conspicuous acts of kindness" when he first commented about the Hamas attack. If they listened to him then, the world would be a safer place. But the mainstream press accused him of antisemitism and pressured him into taking back his words. It is statements like this that show his true intelligence and empathy. I hope more people will listen to him.
The German prisoners of war were much better of in French captivity. After the capture of the Remagen Bridge, the US Army hastily erected dozens of Prisoner of War cages around the bridge-head. The camps were simply open fields surrounded by concertina wire. Those at the Rhine Meadows were situated at Remagen, Bad Kreuznach, Andernach, Buderich, Rheinbach and Sinzig. The German prisoners were hopeful of good treatment from the GIs but in this they were sadly disappointed. Herded into the open spaces like cattle, some were beaten and mistreated. No tents or toilets were supplied. The camps became huge latrines, a sea of urine from one end to the other. They had to sleep in holes in the ground which they dug with their bare hands. In the Bad Kreuznach cage, 560,000 men were interned in an area that could only comfortably hold 45,000. Denied enough food and water, they were forced to eat the grass under their feet and the camps soon became a sea of mud. After the concentration camps were discovered, their treatment became worse as the GIs vented their rage on the hapless prisoners. In the five camps around Bretzenheim, prisoners had to survive on 600-850 calories per day. With bloated bellies and teeth falling out, they died by the thousands. During the two and a half months (April-May, 1945) when the camps were under American control, a total of 18,100 prisoners died from malnutrition, disease and exposure. This extremely harsh treatment at the hands of the Americans resulted in the deaths of over 50,000 German prisoners in the Rhine Meadows camps, in the months just before and after the war ended.
@chetsenior7253 what if he said the same thing but had no money ?
The negative speaks louder, more ears hear the brute conversation. Lots of people would prefer to watch a crash, with no interest in the race itself.
He also helped in the Ukranian /Russian conflict (Sat-internet) and also suggested a GOOD solution. Now the outcome for the Ukrainians and the rest of the world is gonna be MUCH worse!
You said the problem right there. Isreals biggest defense is not the iron dome. It's their ability to silence any criticism or accountability with one word. Antisemitism.
Elon Musk is a brilliant man whom I have massive respect!
Loved the interview!
Well done!
Greece being able to see war coming but not available to avoid it certainly reminds me of the U.S.A. today.
China isn’t coming to the states anytime soon lol.
Greece didnt exist then as a state. The term "Greece" is like today we say "West". Athens and Sparta, cause of their big contribution to the civilization, wanted their "rightful" dominance. That blinded them for local domination, and made them ingore the biggest enemy, who was Persia. Thankfully, Philips and his son Alexander came and formed the first western state, the Macedonian Empire and the first actual Greek State. The lesson is, dont be blinded by your previous success, you need to work together for the common goal. If you fail to do it, someone else will do it for you, while you both destoy yourselves. Thats the lesson of the peloponnesian war.
@@inyomoufizaWabbit Of course they are. All they have to do is cross the southern (or northern) border. Don't assume that they're friendly to us, since we're not vetting anyone.
Ancient Greek stoicism is rooted in the belief that fate is predetermined and while you cant change it you can foresee it if you condition yourself to accept it.
Theres no point crying over spilt milk even if you know its going to spill tomorrow
Greece, seeing the war coming and not being able to avoid it reminds me of China and their greed and quest for more power in warning to take Taiwan who wants to remain free.
It is not beyond suspicion that some people are required to be extremely diplomatic when speaking of world events and conditions regardless of reality.
Can't expect it to be the truth when they won't speak freely on a topic to the public. Very dark realities not spoken here, which I get lex asking for the positives. But the positives aren't positives for the US are they? Because much of Chinese positive growth also involves taking the legs out of US. The US economy is flatlining with help from Chinese internal influence. Am I wrong?
I think the US population should be made fully aware of what's happening, and truth needs to be spoken as accurately as possible, diplomatic or not.
I would like to sit down and discuss further his take on China and Taiwan .... off camera !
Nothing really needs to be talked about. The reality is known. How to respond is the tricky part because people don't react positively they usually choose judgment, which is counterproductive. The "controllers" in China are predictable while being unpredictable.
You are experiencing cognitive dissonance. You hear information that does not fit your world view. Instead of being open to new information, you immediately discredit that information. Call the source a bot, 50 cent, or under coercion. This way, you can keep your bias without accepting logically sound new information.
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I love he mentioned the trains. My God... when I was in Japan and rode the Yamanote line, I almost wept. Chicago's "L" and Metra are just decades behind. It's not just a joke... it's embarrassing.
We don't do trains we do planes but Boeing is letting us down.
You will be crying louder if getting chance to ride chinese HS-train
Hi. I haven't been on the Japanese trains. I heard they are very good 👍
Just like to show you a normal typical Chinese train station for comparison :
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1. Trains must remain slow and unflexible for the car industrial complex to thrive in the US.
2. The automobile, as was the horse, is marketed as a truer symbol of freedom and capitalism compared to the socialism an imposing train conveys.
This is simply how the US works
Why, Americans use personal cars.
When the comment that Chinese think 10 times more of China...... This is correct, and funilly enough it is what all governments should be doing. Government has ONE job, look after its own citizens.
UK government does not understand this.
But the problem is it becomes propaganda to teach them to hate us. Toddlers are taught to hate and kill Americans in schools in China. Wanting to be the best you can be as one country is one thing thinking you're superior over everybody else is another.
@@Cepheidvariable I don't think anybody would understand this. Chinese think 10 times more of China?? More of what?? Doesn't make any sense lol. 😂
@@loot6 I think you took the wrong section of the OP comment, I was referencing the final sentence.
@@Cepheidvariable None of it makes sense if we don't understand the first part, his whole comment is about that first statement.
If only more people were encouraged to sit and have in depth conversations.
A better discussion about better subject matter then i have seen in too long.
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"Discussion" LOL
I pray that Elon can help to restore that benevolent America !!!
Or encourage the development of a benevolent China.
If you can’t avoid it, you have to prepare for it!
One of life’s lessons
I like that saying, albeit out of the context of a potential conflict between superpowers. Let’s hope we can avoid it!
Of course, you can avoid it by accepting multi-polar world as it becomes, not insisting on uni-polar American controlling.dictating the whole world.
Oh wow so smart 🙄
They are. China is absolutely preparing for it, and has been for decades. On the other hand, here in America we are far more focused on gender identity and diversity. If you were a third party, who would you bet on to win that war? Be honest with yourself, not patriotic, what is your honest answer?
Putin literally said this in his interview with Tucker Carlson - that war was unavoidable so he had to make the first move (regarding Ukraine).
To quote Elon Musk on Putin "I'm nowhere near as rich as Putin"
The underlying nature of humans is NOT goodness. But that is why "conspicuous acts of kindness" are so important - specifically because it goes against our underlying nature.
Western Christian values, Love thy neighbor as thy self
I would say those that seek power is not goodness. Can't be good and acquire power. Self selection bias.
Having visited China 3 times for stays from 15 to 23 days, I must agree that the Chinese ambition and drive is unmatched in North America. I seen it first hand in factories from the Pearl delta to Shanghai and inland. They are not just working for this moment but also have the future generations progress in their sights.
That said I am hearing about this undercurrent by a new generation that wants to do away with old values around work and persue leisure.
Does that sound familiar?
We are getting lazy. No work mon and Friday… 3 days workweek for the young.😅
@@edwardlaw797 Getting lazy? Too late, look at the fat and complacent sheeple out there. No wonder about the state of affairs.
Next time you go, you should stay in that shithole for good & then see how great it is. They will always be behind the US in anything that really matters & always have been. For as long as they have existed they have accomplished little, except for stealing everyone else's ideas & still can't get it right.
@@edwardlaw797 And yet for the most part all China does is flood the world with cheap, useless junk.
Bruh the young have no future there. The old are working in their retirement so the young don't have career opportunities, housing is completely unaffordable in cities, and people young now will not have a pension because of the heavily declined birth rates. Everything is controlled and shit painted over. Come on man this stuff is obvious.
I've been visiting China for over a decade, and I have to admit the infrastructure they have is impressive especially when compared to the West, they've made massive leaps in building up the country. Like many other Asian countries such as South Korea, Singapore and Japan they've really embraced modern technology as a way to advance their economy. People don't distrust modern tech like folk tend to do in the West and I believe it's why Asian will advance past Western countries in the near future.
Probably because a huge amount of development in China has come in the last 20 years. A lot of western infrastructure reached a high level back in the 70's and it's always harder to tear vast infrastructure down and replace it than build it modern from scratch.
Modernising what we already have and use is a slower process. And some of the older stuff is still lovely to have around.. but when it comes to public transport, sanitation and services.. would be nice if that had been kept on top of relentlessly.
Advance where? More people slaving away to have more people? To what end exactly? What's the end goal?
@@JustChill-zd4iblol. Have you been living under a rock?
They have a lot of people to employ and only so many railroad lines and unoccupied cities that they can build. They must increase domestic consumption without depressing their currency. It's a real problem. One of their approaches is the "belt and road" making massive loans that often can't be repaid. Think about the problems that can result from that. The world is.
Beautiful conversation, deepest gratitude.
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I remember reading an article in the 90s the US military had consumed as much money as the renewal of all the buidings and infrastructure in the whole country would have cost . Imagine every building, bridge, railway road etc etc etc brand new instead they chose to spend it on the military while the infrastructure of the country is now falling to pieces. On the other hand as Musk says the infrastructure in China is second to none
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So who is in charge of quality control and do they really care?
@@larrybrophy9093 Go visit and see for yourself. Elon did. I wouldn't say a dish is no good without tasting it myself. Otherwise all you have is perpetual unsubstantiated doubt.
Eisenhower warned us about the "military-industrial (Congressional) complex".
Instead we twist ourselves into knots over pronouns and other such silliness.
Mr. Musk is very intelligent and very wise. He is for us Americans a found treasure.
He's a FRAUD , a fake , and a phoney. He was not a founder of Tesla, and he would be bankrupt if not for the CORPORATE WELFARE he received.
He sounds like the average university history instructor.
He is American.... but he is also Canadian and South African. In fact, he has more family relationship and historic ties to Canada and SA vs the USA. He is American for the business opportunities.
Although he is right that there are very impressive buildings in Shanghai and Beijing, the tier 2 cities are not so impressive. Also, something about Chinese infrastructural philosophy is that modern structures are not made to last. They are made to be torn down and rebuilt in 20 to 25 years. There are economic stimulation and land ownership reasons for this standard. This somewhat temporary standard is seen in the very bones of the structural/building materials in Chinese construction such as rebar, concrete, and other fundamental building blocks. Often the standards of these materials, which are for export, are higher than domestically used materials. As an example, rebar exported to N. America will often not meet the engineering safety standards of domestic rebar made here. Consider again, the domestic building materials are even worse than stuff being exported. To metaphorically state, these "grand" architectural displays in Shanghai and Beijing, are built on foundations of sand which will have a comparatively short lifespan. These building facts are motivated by the lack of property rights and lease ownership schemes imposed by the CCP. Developers and builders are not motivated to build things to last.
every interview he does is worth a cateful listen at least once
China Building ,railroad and highway are impressive in looks, but there is a problem. Building,railroad and highway are not safe. Elon needs to speak the full truth. All their building and highways are all collasping. They do quick labour and its unsafe. He has his Telsa business in China so i guess he does not have the power to speak negatively about China. The chineese govt would kick him out. So he has to speak well of China.
Go there and see for yourself. Don't listen too much on the fake news
Do you have any data to back you up? No?
I respect him so much!!! very objective and extremely intelligent man!!! ❤️❤️
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@chetsenior7253why not if he has such unique power and intelligence
The cause of war is not only economy, but also pride, and the US has too much of it.
So much respect to Elon Musk for knowing about three kingdoms
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Like every high school student should?
If you know the history of China you will understand the "one China policy." As it says in the beginning of the "Romance of the Three Kingdoms," --- "The Empire long divided must unite, and long united must divide. Ever it so has been." And each time it united or divided 10s of millions died.
So it shouldnt unite or divide
@@innosantothen what’s the solution?
@@21sausage9 There is none. This is their karma. Look into the history of China it is drenched in blood and has always been that way. Many of the 10 bloodiest wars in the world (that you never heard of) were fought in China. Another thing is that China is a very old civilization while the USA is only 250 years old. By comparison, the civil war (War of the Three Kingdoms) between the fall of the Han dynasty and the rise of the Jin dynasty lasted about 100 years leading to mass depopulation. 100 years is 40% of the total life span of the USA. China's history goes back thousands of years BC so 250 years is just a blip for them. And India has an even longer age, it was already ancient at the time of the Pharaohs.
@@innosanto Not going to happen. China is set on taking Taiwan at any cost. It is in their DNA.
one China policy is communist propaganda because if they truly cared about the one china then they should have claimed back all the land that were illegally taken by russia and the soviet, they dont because its a communist country
It'd be interesting to hear Elon Musk and Peter Zeihan talk together for an hour about China and the world's economy/resources
That would be a fascinating talk. Zeihan does put some contradicting information out there, like on the one hand he talks about the population collapse, on the other hand he talks about massive unemployment. Economically they cannot both be limiting factors.
I totally agree. Peter makes it sound like china has no chance competing with the US and then other ppl will say the opposite.
@@ronaldbruce6480Peter is a die hard antiChina nut case
@@ronaldbruce6480 Ah, Zeihan, the expert who revealed that China has no ability to develop anything more sophisticated than simple IOT devices.
It won’t happen. Zeihan hates musk. He’s called him a racist South African apartheid sympathiser. It’s not true at all.
Very wrong fact about China’s inquisition. Communist China occupied Tibet and killed more than a million Tibetans. There are so many Tibetan refugees now third generation but still refugees struggling because of China’s occupation of Tibet.
bull shit~~
I think the real question is what will big money do in order to profit the most.
US only went to Europe for long time holding, control, and seiz as much resources and money, not because of kindness!!!
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Elon will keep lying, manipulating, & under delivering any way he can to grab the most profit at any cost. That's all he's ever done & the only thing he's good at.
I like Elon, but his romanticised take on America's historical actions is questionable. The Marshall plan was designed to create resistance to the communistic threat from the soviet union. NATO was set-up the following year in 1949. In 1951 The Marshall Plan was replaced by the more appropriately named Mutual Security Act which speaks for itself and shows the true intent of The Marshall Plan. The US involvement in WW2, it's rebuilding of Western Europe post WW2 and pretty much everything they've ever done have been motivated by geo-political strategy - not benevolence.
yeah, seems great at business and engineering , but very average minded on history - like most of us.
@@dixztube - I think his take is selective, and I think nobody has challenged his position. Maybe they're afraid to. As I say, I like Musk, but I find some of his views... curious.
@@youtoob1811 I don’t like him. He’s impressive in those fields but lot of these business types are propped up by a financialized market , government rates or lack of, and culture warriors who follow them. I think he’s compromised with china big time and a total hypocrite
One should question everything about Elon, because he is nothing but a partially functioning idiot & mainly spews complete nonsense to those dumb enough to listen to his nonsense & lies.
"This isn't about Ukraine defending itself, this is about a larger plan by the collective West, by NATO, by the United States to strategically defeat Russia." ~Scott Ritter
This was taken from the Lex Freidman podcast without any reference or credit.
The guy in the suit , ......is Lex Friedman, lest your eyes betrayed you.
@@philipclift7205... Which the channel did not reference or credit.
@@HorusHerotic youtube has the technology to pay lex the ad revenue when other people upload his content
@@daytonaflowseriously?
@@HorusHerotic there's 2 people sitting there. And only 1 owns the content? Elon hasn't sold himself to lex.
The book Musk refers to is actually entitled 'Destined for War.' I read the book and noticed that the cover review blurbs kept mentioning The Thucydides Trap as if it were the title of the book. I think what happened is that the original title was changed prior to publication (for the obvious reason that it is difficult to pronounce) and that the reviewers had received pre-pub copies that were under the original title. The implication I draw from this is that Musk was on the list of pre-pub reviewers.
for a broader perspective, and if you have the patience, a channel called Professor Hamamoto is far more worthy than the subscription numbers suggest. More videos on his other channel, 'Darrell Y. Hamamoto, PhD.
The Thucydides trap is a term.
I don’t know if you see my comment, from morning to evening I just listen to you.
You are incredibly intelligent.
Of course you are genius.
You are the only one thinking about humanity.
US has been in war with another country in every single year of the last century and in this century. US is not inquisitive? 😂😂
He meant not for the purposes of taking land.
@@wowcnmovie are there even any reasons to take land? Japan's entire political story gets written by the US. Any honest African leader that refused to sell his country's natural resources in an unfair trade value was killed by the US, and then a US puppet leader would be put in his place. By the time of mid 20th century, US didn't have to physically take over lands. It just wasn't logical. The warfare have changed by that time.
And also, Elon Musk clearly covers up the fact that US was openly said that they have plans to nuke North Korea. But since the Soviets also had nukes by that time, the plan was dropped. The only thing that prevented US from nuking DPRK was the Soviet possession of Nukes. How is this not inquisitive?
*acquisitive... meaning to acquire, as in take over a country as in ownership / direct colonization . The U.S. has however fought many proxy wars to put their preferred leader in a foreign office and affect world events that way.
Woodrow Wilson a Democratic entered World War l. FDR a Democrat entered World War II. Harry Truman a Democrat started the Korean War. JFK a Democratic started the Vietnam War. LBJ a Democrat continued the Vietnam War. Jimmy Carter a Democrat started a conflict with Iran. Joe Biden a Democrat supports the Ukraine War. Joe Biden a Democrat supports Hamas in the Middle East War. Does anyone here see a pattern developing?
@@wowcnmovie you can steal resourc through corporation and manipulation of lies by secret intelligence
Elon musk, the savior of humanity. Thanks for a good time. ♾️
Making crap cars that are poorly designed, don't work & rockets that just blow up wasting taxpayer billions saves nothing. Look what he could have done with the 20 billion he wasted paying too much for Twitter. He saves nothing & is a liar & conman.
Sarcasm?
When I think of China I think of an advanced country with a rich cultural history that does not tolerate a difference of opinion and permits no criticism of the government. I've never been there but I've met people who grew up there and worked there. My opinion, I've not been there myself, just what I've heard and read.
Chaos followed by gradually progressive rigidity to the point of immobility followed by revolution/civil war, chaos, etc. and the whole thing repeats...such is the long history of China.
As an Asian American living in Taiwan, I have a lot to say but I will just say this, for those who have never visited or lived in another country (outside of their own country, and I don't only mean for Americans but also for Chinese and other people from other countries) I say if you have the funds and the resources to do so you should. It will greatly open your mind to the world but you have to have an open mind.
US was definitely acquisitive in the 1800s. After that it was easier to influence countries than acquire the land.
Exactly - the reason countries stopped being acquistive around mid 20th century was not morality but the fact that economic domination was much more sustainable and profitable that acquistions
Agree. They just apply what Genkhis Khan did.
You confuse yourself. These were Europeans. If we sent tomorrow people to Mars, they wont be Martians. After 500 years they will be yes, but not the first 100-200.
@Jimarass No, you're confused about American history. United States of America Declaration of Independence was 1776. Most Americans were of European descent but established themselves as a separate nation from England before 1800s acquisitions. The people previously living in those acquired lands were in many different tribes and didn't consider themselves to be American at that time. Your hypothetical Mars comparison doesn't work.
@@teeconsigliano7631 I will dive deeper. Do you see a Roman nowadays? Can you perceive why you cant? They ruled the west for 2K years almost. And none of them is here? Finding out why you cant see one, you will undertand what I mean. If you cant find out, no matter what I say, wont matter.
Elon Is A Great Man!!!
Great Great interview! So much valuable knowledge.
See North American socialism coming and couldn't avoid it...
This guy is a very good engineer. There is not much after that.
Dont askhim about global politics. He knows no more than any bartender.
There was a war between the British Empire and the US, but it was small compared to WWII. Something to remember at least.
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Would humanity have reached the moon if not for that bike ride?
Would we have reach Mars without this podcast?
@@pokies100 lol...
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Or maybe millions would not have died from the rockets the scientists developed because of that bike
He fails to mention that much of the modern 'architecture' in China is crumbling down.
Does Elon Musk know about Monroe doctrine and how USA dealt with Latin America. Does he know about neocolonialism as opposed to colonialism, the later more cumbersome with administrative responsibilities while former gets the benefit of facilitated businesses without administrative responsibilities.
Musk is an effin arrogant idiot.
The worse kind of idiot.
Is he american or European
Man, what Germans did in Russia, and what at all happened in Europe in WWII? Of course prisoners of war were treated differently. What about Guantanamo? Agent orange? Napalm? Nukes? USSR lost 27 million in that war, USA 0.4 million, no civilian casualties. USA, Britain and France combined had less casualties than Serbs. Conclusions that are not taking into account basic facts.
The USSR-German nonaggression pact that allowed Germany to develop its war machine on Soviet soil was a disastrous mistake by Stalin that almost destroyed the USSR. All the world saw it happening and did nothing. There were several clear opportunities to nip the conflict in the bud but the western democracies again did nothing. Japan invaded China in acts of horrible genocide. The world did nothing. Would NATO do better now? History always repeats itself...eventually.
This is really a rhetorical question. Personally, I wonder how China would get along without spoiled Americans buying Chinese goods because probably 90% of our stuff in our house came from China. Can you imagine the end of that income for China?
The UK took over countries with might, the USA learned you didn't need to do that and could take over a country with economics. China is doing exactly that - see Belt/Road Initiative (BRI). So, they're ALREADY taking over the world by hoovering up countries in Africa, and elsewhere - investing in projects across Europe too. It seems to me, The West is complicit in the rise of China, the UK for example is a subscriber to the BRI project. So when we talk about "doing something about it". Yes, we could, we could cut them off economically, but the greed machine of corporate investors will not accept any loss in their bottom line - thus capitalistic forces prevent China being stopped. China is our fault - or at least our leaders, both business and political.
Hear hear
So how is it wrong that they are being successful business wise?
@@donn.4766 - I never said it was wrong, but it is "bad" from the perspective of people who live in The West, because our quality of life will diminish.
@@youtoob1811 so you dont want to see anyone else in the world thrive and be successful?
There is enough resources, food and energy for everyone to be comfortable. Others being successful shouldnt hinder your life. Its the leaders and people in power that keep others down.
You are an imperialist yourself.
So Elon passed high school history. Genius
Noticed this also
I beg to differ, usa not inquisitive? why don't they close all their military bases in other people countries? And ur darn right, people don't forget...
That’s different. Some countries pay us for their security or we work deals with them where can build a military base there. We didn’t conquer them
I think he said “acquisitive”.
@@ronaldbruce6480 yeah us isnt fascist globalist power
A lot of diplomacy in the video. US has been very clever throu history
Because NATO is a school yard bully. Bullies don't let their victims out of their eye sight 🤦♀️
Where is the link to the original video?
The assumption that Elon makes is that the economy of China will be 2 to 3 times larger than the U.S. I would suggest to Elon that he put some effort into learning economics of nations. At the current time the U.S. economy is growing and the Chinese economy is shrinking, many say collapsing.
他说的是PPP，中国真实的经济规模现在已经是美国2到3倍。
When Elon says things such as "we blah blah blah" don't you stop to wonder for a second who he is refiring to? He is in a class all his own
Truly. There wasn't a bus short enough to take him, so he was home schooled.
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Yes he is, he is the biggest idiot that does nothing but blow his own horn, trying to convince everyone he is smart. He isn't. All he ever says is blah, blah blah & people are getting wise to it because it means nothing except that he is tarded.
The worst thing about it, was the US literally enabled the Chinese to do all they have.
It wasn't the US it was Z1on1st traitors within the US
So what do you want, a 1000% tariff or a war?
@@pierregeralt7130 sure
Glorious clip on empires and USA VS China
We need a hero. A super intelligent person that has the qualities to negotiate at top level.
Interesting , Thank You .
Glad you enjoyed it
@@Liberty-Vault mention the Lex Friedman podcast next time
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@@ElonMusk-iw1lg what a bot
Like Elon a lot.
If the mainstream press actually got the facts straight before jumping on a headline the world would be a better place. less people would be using social media to try to get some truth.
"They saw it coming but still couldn't avoid it." This assumes they wanted to avoid it. War has been good for the US, or at least our mythology would like us to believe.
You made yourself a nation from a fully surplus economy to a deficit ridden struggling superpower, and here you are talking about "war has been good", war is only good if you can get more than what youv put in, have you managed to at least do that?
No.
How is war good?
@chriscain7333 war has been good for the elites and the MIC and def contractors, and that's all matters.
@@agamliandy7843 well the military industrial complex has always been there, doing the same thing from day one, with all honesty imho they are not the major problem in terms of the US as a nation, e.g the marshall plan, was extremely successful and the US benefited heavily upon, one could even argue marshalls plan solidified the very foundation of the superpower.
@chriscain7333 The difference is when those people with interests use war as a way to siphon and distribute wealth among themselves. Trillions dollars of taxpayers' money for endless wars fighting "boogeyman"
Washington being called washing town for a reason.
@@chriscain7333 Yea, good point. After saving the fairly worthless continent from being obliterated, then the US became the main reason that it was rebuilt. Should have just left that burned out wasteland as it was. If they are not intelligent to stop creating world wars then they are not worth the effort required to keep around.
Great talk - as always🙏.
Interesting to hear Mr Musk’s view on free speech in China, spiritual and non competitive arts of the Chinese civilization (Qi Gong) and the benefits of holistic healing methods such as acupuncture with a view to depoliticizing and restoring US -China relations for global peace 🇱🇰🙏🧘♀️
Elon Musk - a brilliant man. He has a unique way with words, managing to describe pure substance, no ego rhetoric.
Elon is the Undisputed Genius of our time. I have no judgement I will not agree or disagree. All I'm saying is that nothing that he ever says has Not been very well thought out In mere moments, when most of us would take far longer to process the possible consequences of our words.
He literally just read out of a high school history book
There is a cultural divide between China and the US. We love freedom and they love security. We need to understand this and find a way to cooperate. The important thing is to keep the world economy going. We need this both for ourselves and the environment and the poor
Well spoken and should be President.
Outsider looking in:
Advancement stresses humanity.
Maintain and sustain is all that’s needed for humanity to succeed.
Greed is the catalyst.
Napkin note:
advancement helps humanity
@@zoro2Real it’s like a Hollywood drama with the weapon advancement.
It's not greed it's need
@@TechnoMinarchist war weapons are greed incentives
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Anyone who thinks China isn't expansionist knows very little about china.
Where did China expand?
那你是真的无知
@@pengzhang5081 中国确实是扩张主义，周、秦、汉、唐、明，乃至于满清前期，都在进行对外扩张，并且将所有适合农耕的土地都占领了下来，受制于古代交通和通信的限制，中央帝国的边界是有极限的，叫帝国极壁，新中国前70年可以说是在卧薪尝胆，从2020年起，新的对外扩张又开始了，不是占领土地，而是占领市场，一带一路就是标志
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Tibet, The Spratlys, border battles with India. It will be interesting if they look to recapture Manchuria (Vladivostok).
Excellent analysis of China and US.
7:00 US didn't have ENOUGH nukes back in 1940s, and after they got, then also USSR got their nukes. Otherwise the US definitely invaded the USSR.
Russia could not have survived the second World War without United States weapons supplies and aid. The United States had the bomb before Russia and could have made more and used them well before Russia was able to acquire them. Russia was an evil country then and still is. Stalin starved 12 million Ukrainians to death in the early 1930’s . The United States never acknowledged that during WWII because of the aid we were giving Russia to help defeat Germany. Most Americans would have been horrified by that. Now you know why Ukrainians hate Russia and will never forget or trust them.
"Justice to the left of you, justice to the right, speak when you are spoken to, but don't pretend you're right. This life's not for living, it's for fighting and for wars, no matter what the truth is, hold on to what is yours." Song by Yes "Hold On" 1983 (Anderson, Rabin and Squire.)
Yes and the Dead really have the best lyrics out there. Little more advanced than T Swift
Musk is very bright and knowledgeable
it is relaxing to listen to elon
I didn't know that listening to a complete idiot was anything except annoying.
Sun Tzu's, "The Art of War" 5th Century China.
1. The art of war teaches us not to rely not on the likelyhood of the enemy 's not comming but on our own readyness to recieve him; not on the chance of his attacking, but rather the fact that we have made our position unassailable.
BRILLIANT STRATEGY THEN AND NOW. STILL WIDELY READ PUBLISHED AND AVAILABLE.
GOOD ADVICE FOR LIFE IN GENERAL.
Thank you for this interview, I always enjoy Elon Musk, and will check out this book.
its actually 5th century BC
@@JubilantJaguarthis is a famous Chinese book, so no problem, he will still find this book accurately.
You don't need to read books to figure this shit out... It's obvious.
There infrastructure is new. Ours is much older and we have a problem fixing and repairing … You should have been around when the Nations held Americans in high esteem. It didn’t last all that long but we could hold our heads high when we walked around Europe. ❤❤
Elon claims to have studied Chinese history, yet states that China has never been “acquisitive”. Apparently, he somehow overlooked China’s Yaun Dynasty, the most acquisitive power in history. Likewise, China’s neighbor Vietnam serves as a good example of China’s acquisitive nature, having been colonized & otherwise overlorded for a millennium, starting with the Han Dynasty in 110 BC. Or, how about Qing Dynasty occupation & control of Korea? As for the CCP, China’s invasion & annexation of Tibet in 1950 is the very definition of acquisitive. Of course, Elon could never openly discuss that if he hopes to continue doing business in China.
Absolutely and all students of history know. However it's true of the current China, give or take a Filipino island or so, which they shouldn't
We are talking about the current China’s governance which has nothing to do with American imperialism or soft power domination. China looks at other countries as partners for economic growth in a peaceful way!
People just think they are adversaries, they are all working for total communism.
"The highest art of warfare is not to fight at all but to subvert anything of value in the country of your enemy until such time that the perception of reality of your enemy is screwed up to such an extent that he does not perceive you as an enemy." - Yuri Bezmenov
No they are not! Why are millions leaving?
So many groups against CCP and Han Chinese it's crazy!
exactly it's all pro wrestling
truth is I get the feeling that the plan is a centralized gov powered by high powered Ai and meritocracy style global gov is the plan.. certainly not fighting eachother on a high level.. and that may be for the best look America/ europe / Canada today.. disaster
I love how positive he is about the US. Reminds us to be grateful about this great country. If only the politicians could stop dividing us
I have been to China. He is not wrong.
Some say the American civil war was a matter of economics. But when I propose that as a possibility to my friends they don’t want to hear it, they assert it was only to release the slaves.
He who wins the war, writes the history books
Let's just say MS was the richest state before the Civil War and now it's one of the poorest. Cotton was king indeed. All about money and power.
Ahh it was both but slavery was used as the justification for the real reason, it was unfortunate that ended up being the solution.
The Civil War was about the Morrill tariff. Lincoln as soon as he had treasury issued greenbacks could have rebated the South. Acts of kindness rather than punitive. The north wanted to industrialize and the south didn't want to be taxed.
Didn’t want to pay the going labor rates
Intelligent interviewer! Well matched!