Atreyu is such an exciting company! I love their story and how they are challenging the industry! I will definitely buy all of their shoes! Congratulations on you PB! Great review as usual!
We're all pretty confused about pricing of this shoe. Here's my opinion. They can sell the shoe for $100 because of the subscriptions of their other shoes(I know this one isn't a sub shoe). They only make enough shoes to provide for their subscribers. So as a subscribed consumer we don't get the back end cost necessary to create a large stock for sitting in a warehouse, waiting for a foot. And as a company, they must save a ton. Also, when it comes to a brand like Nike, we're going to be seeing the cost of all the R&D and marketing that goes in to something like the Alphafly. We're not only paying for high-end materials and assembly. Atreyu has figured out various way to keep overhead from factoring in to the price of their shoes. Example: they don't use shoe boxes. I'm excited to see what some other companies do to compete in this landscape.
i think another point which you touched on, is that Atreyu saves a ton on testing and development by waiting for the competition to develop the newest foams, and finding how to minimize the prices of that
I was just visiting “On’s” website and they’re now marketing a new subscription based recyclable running shoe: “Cyclon”. Looks like Atreyu is already making waves in the industry with their business model.
Very nice video/review.....I’m very tempted to try this brand, the only thing holding me back is my loyalty to my local running store. Congratulations on the PR!!
Besides the price, I love the aesthetics of this shoe: mostly white with the logo. I can wear them causally after they are done with running! I can't say that about the Next%...
Wow, that’s an amazing price! Maybe that will help bring prices down with other brands. Many more runners can afford a price like that!!! This may actually get me to try this shoe! Marketing at its best!!
Loving this brand’s concept! Just managed to order a pair of the base model Atreyus and can’t wait for them. I feel like they can offer this racer so cheap due to keeping things simple, even the tooling for the shoes seems like it may be lower cost, not doing a crazy rubber design on the sole or anything. “Keep it simple stupid” is a concept some of the big competitors need to revisit. PS. That dry heaving had me on edge as a sympathy puker lol
That 2:50 hacking is very familiar. Every HIIT session and whenever I re-evaluate my maximum heart rate. Not pleasant, but it makes every other workout seem relatively easy. Well done, I haven't run a sub-20 minute 5k since I was in my teens and early 20s, and never will again at my age now.
Been eyeing Atreyu for a while. Super innovative selling method which keeps price down as quality remains the same (or increases). Definitely down to support a cool new company! Ps. Gotta love the post hard effort hack attack! Haha.
Looks very exciting. I love the base model, currently on my second pair. Can't wait for these!!! Side note: just starting HR training. It is so frustrating. Heart Rate is all over the map. Walk, Run, Jog and then stop. Grrr. Hope it gets better sooner than later. Great review.
I emailed Atreyu and they are expecting to be back in stock in December. What a good problem to have for a new company. I will be ordering in December.
Congrats on the PR! I tried to order the Voyager several months ago but they were sold out at that time. Atreyu has a unique business model, and everyone that has run in the shoes seems to love them. As someone who has yet to have the opportunity, I'm intrigued. Now, I'll probably take some heat for this, but I cannot get past the looks. I'm not a fan of the standard colorway, and the "Strike Here" verbiage on the first model was just funny. I hoped that those minor issues would draw enough feedback for them to consider tweaking the asthetics, but now we're on a newer model and they've doubled down on an unfinished look with some rather obtrusive text on the heel. None of this is enough to deter me from satisfying my curiosity on a single pair, but even with a modest cost savings, they would have to FAR outperform other brands in order to persuade me to choose them a go-to trainer or racer.
Choice filming of the shoe & 5k time trial, perfect music for a 5k race, good time for running by yourself, 5k race with people take min or more off that lower 18min 👍😀✅
If it’s a TPU midsole, it surely is a little firmer than Pbax (ZoomX with Nike, and PB with Saucony), right? So, does it compare to the Hoka One One CarbonX (TPU midsole)? Or the Nike ZoomFly 3 (React foam)? BTW got myself a PB over 10 miles this weekend in the ZoomFly 3. Wanted to negative split, but started way too slow, with the first 2k on 8mins each. Then sped up & the shoes really helped. Came out at 1:33:27 (Was aiming at 1:36:40), with an average HR of 168. More importantly, my average stride went from 84 to 88cm, compared to my Nike Pegasus 37. So, the shoes helped a lot. Thanks for helping me choose the ZoomFly 3.
Pre-orders on their website: 115 sold of 5000 2% funded This product will only be produced if at least 5000 units are supported by October 07, 2020 16:12 (Central Time (US & Canada)) 16 days remaining . Hope they have enough pre-orders to produce the shoe!
Got to try this! I hope the 100 usd price mark is true. No question for now. I will be waiting for to your future thoughts as you logged more miles on them. Keep safe kofuzi!
I liked Atreyu's shoes before they added the carbon fiber plate, so I am really looking forward to see how they perform for me when they fully release them.
Look at his gate cycle at 7:40! Literally looks like that shoes are springing his foot off the ground like a catapult. Those shoes have some serious responsive from that plate!
Can’t wait for this shoe to come out. It’s probably to early to ask but how does it compare to the next % in terms of the midsole response. I have not tried the New Balance TC.
Purchased my first pair of the artist today - 90 dollars out the door (including shipping!) Thanks Atreyu for your efforts in trying to restore balance to the rediculous running shoe price boom of the last 3 years! When I hear someobdy say, for example, "This shoe is only 135 dollars so its a pretty fair price" WHAT!! Nothing fair about anything in hyper inflation. Dont use relativity to co-sign rediculous shoe prices! Atreyu, you guys are my heros!
When you read their story on the website, it seems like they want to make their products as affordable as they can :) which is nice...part of the reason for such a low price for such a good shoe is also probably that they are not as known yet as those "big dogs" out there, where a pretty significant part of the price is the brand...so I think they cant really afford to ask for more, people wouldnt be as interested if they went for like 150 dollars...the shoe now also reminds me so much of the adios pro...wonder if adidas got a little inspired there
Awesome review and congrats on the pr. What type of training are you doing? I have simile pr’s then you but I rarely go slower then 8:35 pace for easy runs. Do you find that by doing those 9min plus pace runs you feel more refreshed for hard efforts?
Me too! The Skechers Razor 3 is so bouncy with the hyperburst... I hope Atreyu does something similar...I can't wait to try any iteration of this shoe!
For its comparatively low price, durability wouldn’t be as big a priority as with other carbon-plated options as you point out Mike. I suspect the very thin layer of rubber would be the component that would wear out first. How does this compare to the Endorphin Speeds in your opinion? I’m still looking for a future marathon shoe, but also half marathon down to 5K racer, having just signed up for that B.A.A. 3 event medley. I’m curious about the Brooks HE2 since I adore the Hyp Tempo’s (and could consider them as racers, especially 5-10K). The fit on the Tempo’s is perfect for me but I don’t know if the unisex sizing of the HE2 will be less precise. Any feedback is welcome about any recommendations you might have. Martha
Great video! I have the Atreyu base model and can't wait for this plated racer! Can you compare to other carbon plate shoes (and also how it is similar/different from the base Atreyu model)?
Suggestion- it would be really interesting watching your progression over the course of 1+ year with a coach. The prescribed speed/strength workouts will provide great content and shoe review miles...plus your 6:18 pace in today’s 5K will likely become your half marathon or marathon pace.
Running Otaku I’ve offered him my coach, who has galvanized my running and is a great guy as well. It’s a luxury but really worth it if one can swing it...
Thinking about purhasing a gopro 9 for filming when I run. How difficult was it to learn the filmiing while running? and what gear do you recommend for it? And last aint it difficult to learn how to run with the camera?
What about sizing ? I normally use a 45,5 eur = 11.5 USA size (29,5 cms ) but one atreyu website they show tt size 45 eur = 11 USA is 29,6 cms long and size 11,5 = 30 cms 😢
Guys it’s not really about the shoes - it’s about you. You perform, shoes give you 1-2% top un return and in case of lets say 20 min per 5km it’s only 12 seconds. And you can practice so much using any shoe and cut off waaay more than 12 seconds. Keep it in mind. Not the shoe.
Congrats on your PR Kofuzi! Can you tell me please more about upper of this shoe?On the picture It looks like not very breathable or am I wrong?I'd like to hear your opinion.
I think it's crazy how long it took to get plates into running shoes. Nike has been doing it with their basketball shoes since the mid 90s. Hard to believe it took almost 20 years for them to get that tech into running shoes
That shoe is so white. You should have your girls draw something cool on it! Artist!!! Looked like a serious effort. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen that kind of pain on you. (you wore it well). Congrats on the PR buddy!
I love my Atreyu base model(s) but replace the thick insole with custom orthotics which just about makes them the most perfect shoe for me (my orthotics take up too much room on some shoes). Do you have any insights (or can you find out) why they made the insoles non-removable on the Artist? Or whether can they be ripped out without destroying the shoe......
They're unremovable because if a removable insole gets screwed up in a daily trainer, it's no big deal to stop and fix it, but in a race that could be an issue and affect race performance. That's why in a lot of racing shoes, the insole is either glued or stitched down
Not really sure why people are surprise that it is cheap. It's basically four generations behind the leading edge of Nike. The Alphafly Next% being a Gen 4 Carbon plated shoe. They've basically talked about how everything in the design of their shoes is low cost material and that the uppers were originally discarded material. It's easy to make things and sell things cheap when you're building them off really old tech and did 0 R&D to actually get the foam or the carbon plate etc.
@@kofuzi it can be, you see this in bikes sourced from Chinese factories all the time. You can be selling way cheaper products if do 99% less development than your competitors.
Any stability issues on tight turns like the TC? Even in your video of the TC through Chicago I saw your left arch completely collapse on a tight left turn.
I didn’t feel that with the Atreyu. The turns weren’t quite as tight as in the TC video, so I can’t say for sure. But, the Atreyu is lower to the ground and feels lower.
This is music to my ears, I’m super pumped for this shoe and to hear your positive thoughts.... it gets me excited!
Atreyu is such an exciting company! I love their story and how they are challenging the industry! I will definitely buy all of their shoes! Congratulations on you PB! Great review as usual!
We're all pretty confused about pricing of this shoe. Here's my opinion. They can sell the shoe for $100 because of the subscriptions of their other shoes(I know this one isn't a sub shoe). They only make enough shoes to provide for their subscribers. So as a subscribed consumer we don't get the back end cost necessary to create a large stock for sitting in a warehouse, waiting for a foot. And as a company, they must save a ton.
Also, when it comes to a brand like Nike, we're going to be seeing the cost of all the R&D and marketing that goes in to something like the Alphafly. We're not only paying for high-end materials and assembly.
Atreyu has figured out various way to keep overhead from factoring in to the price of their shoes. Example: they don't use shoe boxes.
I'm excited to see what some other companies do to compete in this landscape.
i think another point which you touched on, is that Atreyu saves a ton on testing and development by waiting for the competition to develop the newest foams, and finding how to minimize the prices of that
100 bucks ? wow! cannot wait for this shoes release.
They are o pre-sale now!!
If you missed out Round 2 just started today.
Intriguing shoe: Really looking forward to your long term feedback and learning how quickly that rubber outsole wears out.
I was just visiting “On’s” website and they’re now marketing a new subscription based recyclable running shoe: “Cyclon”. Looks like Atreyu is already making waves in the industry with their business model.
Very nice video/review.....I’m very tempted to try this brand, the only thing holding me back is my loyalty to my local running store. Congratulations on the PR!!
Besides the price, I love the aesthetics of this shoe: mostly white with the logo. I can wear them causally after they are done with running! I can't say that about the Next%...
Thanks for the correct info.
I believe you mean "aesthetic". An "atheistic" shoe is more of a knee high, black leather boot with a 60mm stack height and maybe a stud or two. 🤡
I' d feel a bit weird walking around in a shoe that has "The Artist" written on the heel
Or the alphafly, which is yet even uglier.
I’m not sure if it’s gonna be great walking around in a shoe with a high stack height and a plate inside.
Love the video and music, porta potty and spitting in the end is as genuine as you can get. Nice run and review as well.
Wow, that’s an amazing price! Maybe that will help bring prices down with other brands. Many more runners can afford a price like that!!! This may actually get me to try this shoe! Marketing at its best!!
I really like the look of them shoes. Also, cracking shots for the running section, I really enjoyed it
Dude love the stache 👍🏽
Can't wait to get this shoe
At $100 and for such a low weight this is a no brainer
Nice run! Especially nice dry-heave at the end😨😅
Loving this brand’s concept! Just managed to order a pair of the base model Atreyus and can’t wait for them. I feel like they can offer this racer so cheap due to keeping things simple, even the tooling for the shoes seems like it may be lower cost, not doing a crazy rubber design on the sole or anything. “Keep it simple stupid” is a concept some of the big competitors need to revisit.
PS. That dry heaving had me on edge as a sympathy puker lol
That 2:50 hacking is very familiar. Every HIIT session and whenever I re-evaluate my maximum heart rate. Not pleasant, but it makes every other workout seem relatively easy. Well done, I haven't run a sub-20 minute 5k since I was in my teens and early 20s, and never will again at my age now.
Been eyeing Atreyu for a while. Super innovative selling method which keeps price down as quality remains the same (or increases). Definitely down to support a cool new company!
Ps. Gotta love the post hard effort hack attack! Haha.
Great cinematography for your opening, Mike. Video, music, selfie views, everything.
Yes! I'm so excited for this one!
2:47 - way to push! Mad props.
I ordered the standard issue colorway. Have not used them yet. Lol . Been lazy since May lol. Just waiting for fall weather. Nice review.
Is it just a one off payment for the shoe? Some people are talking about subscriptions ??
Almost throwing up, that's what effort looks like!
Awww man. How freaking good does it feel to push the legs for a hard fast effort. So rewarding! Nice run Michael
It feels very good. It also feels terrible. But mostly good.
Looks very exciting. I love the base model, currently on my second pair. Can't wait for these!!! Side note: just starting HR training. It is so frustrating. Heart Rate is all over the map. Walk, Run, Jog and then stop. Grrr. Hope it gets better sooner than later. Great review.
Congrats on your 5k PB! I got my 5k PB this weekend too (2 mins behind you, tho. Still, 4th in my age group in Thailand)
Great work!
I have wanted to get a pair of Atreyu shoes but they have been sold out for a while now unless you have a size 4.5 foot...
Yeap stock is an issue with Atreyu, be it the fulfillment of stock levels, balacing risks or creating hype while at it, hopefully we have more soon.
If you message them on Instagram they’re very good about letting you know when it’s going to be back in stock
The artist is on pre-order now!!!
I emailed Atreyu and they are expecting to be back in stock in December. What a good problem to have for a new company. I will be ordering in December.
Congrats on the PR!
I tried to order the Voyager several months ago but they were sold out at that time. Atreyu has a unique business model, and everyone that has run in the shoes seems to love them. As someone who has yet to have the opportunity, I'm intrigued.
Now, I'll probably take some heat for this, but I cannot get past the looks. I'm not a fan of the standard colorway, and the "Strike Here" verbiage on the first model was just funny. I hoped that those minor issues would draw enough feedback for them to consider tweaking the asthetics, but now we're on a newer model and they've doubled down on an unfinished look with some rather obtrusive text on the heel.
None of this is enough to deter me from satisfying my curiosity on a single pair, but even with a modest cost savings, they would have to FAR outperform other brands in order to persuade me to choose them a go-to trainer or racer.
ok now you need to do a real time trial where you're not also recording.
You're a beast.
OMG... If this shoe gets a PEBA midsole it will be incredible! I cannot wait to own these!
love the hair and stash!.. dig it man!
6 months in the making
Great run and review, definitely an interesting shoe to take into account
Very good reviews of shoes in great detail good Job and keep up the good work!!!!!
Congratulations on your 5 k !
Thanks Mike! Looking forward to your thoughts on the performance at other paces.
Cracking run! Congrats on the PB (or PR)!
Love the time trial action 🏃♂️
True max effort there...nice job! And some of those sunrise running shots were really great!
it's a wonderful time of year for sunrises
Choice filming of the shoe & 5k time trial, perfect music for a 5k race, good time for running by yourself, 5k race with people take min or more off that lower 18min 👍😀✅
If it’s a TPU midsole, it surely is a little firmer than Pbax (ZoomX with Nike, and PB with Saucony), right? So, does it compare to the Hoka One One CarbonX (TPU midsole)? Or the Nike ZoomFly 3 (React foam)?
BTW got myself a PB over 10 miles this weekend in the ZoomFly 3. Wanted to negative split, but started way too slow, with the first 2k on 8mins each. Then sped up & the shoes really helped. Came out at 1:33:27 (Was aiming at 1:36:40), with an average HR of 168. More importantly, my average stride went from 84 to 88cm, compared to my Nike Pegasus 37. So, the shoes helped a lot. Thanks for helping me choose the ZoomFly 3.
TPE
Pre-orders on their website: 115 sold of 5000 2% funded
This product will only be produced if at least 5000 units are supported by October 07, 2020 16:12 (Central Time (US & Canada))
16 days remaining . Hope they have enough pre-orders to produce the shoe!
We plan to produce the shoe either way.
Atreyu Running Company will the price just be a bit higher?
Michael Mansfield Same price!
Atreyu Running Company just pre ordered mine
Michael Mansfield Thank you!!
5Ks are the worst :( So incredibly painful. Congrats on your PR/PB!
Got to try this! I hope the 100 usd price mark is true.
No question for now. I will be waiting for to your future thoughts as you logged more miles on them.
Keep safe kofuzi!
Awesome review and 5k. I have their regular shoe but not tried it fully yet
dope man. solid PB 🏃🏼♂️💪🏼 Keep grinding
I liked Atreyu's shoes before they added the carbon fiber plate, so I am really looking forward to see how they perform for me when they fully release them.
I put in my pre sale order today as soon as it opened. Excited.
awesome!
Smashed it, great work on the PB! 👍
Loving the stache!
thanks!
Love the music today. Yeah, very interesting show and will they sell it international?
The shoe is available for pre-order both domestically and internationally.
Look at his gate cycle at 7:40! Literally looks like that shoes are springing his foot off the ground like a catapult. Those shoes have some serious responsive from that plate!
Can't wait for my pair!
Sub 20!!! Great job mike!
Can’t wait for this shoe to come out. It’s probably to early to ask but how does it compare to the next % in terms of the midsole response. I have not tried the New Balance TC.
Almost puking...sign of truly pushing the limits!
Purchased my first pair of the artist today - 90 dollars out the door (including shipping!) Thanks Atreyu for your efforts in trying to restore balance to the rediculous running shoe price boom of the last 3 years! When I hear someobdy say, for example, "This shoe is only 135 dollars so its a pretty fair price" WHAT!! Nothing fair about anything in hyper inflation. Dont use relativity to co-sign rediculous shoe prices! Atreyu, you guys are my heros!
this comment feels very on brand for the commenter's username
They are on pre-sale now! Go for it!!!
2:48 should've warned me I was in the splash zone haha, good vid
When you read their story on the website, it seems like they want to make their products as affordable as they can :) which is nice...part of the reason for such a low price for such a good shoe is also probably that they are not as known yet as those "big dogs" out there, where a pretty significant part of the price is the brand...so I think they cant really afford to ask for more, people wouldnt be as interested if they went for like 150 dollars...the shoe now also reminds me so much of the adios pro...wonder if adidas got a little inspired there
Comparison with the Saucony Endorphin Speed?
Yes
So it seems like Sam from RoadTrailRun received a version of this with the PEBA midsole. Very interesting.
Awesome review and congrats on the pr. What type of training are you doing? I have simile pr’s then you but I rarely go slower then 8:35 pace for easy runs. Do you find that by doing those 9min plus pace runs you feel more refreshed for hard efforts?
I’m curious how the TPE compares with Pebax as far as durability and “energy return” also if they add a little more structure to the heel
Me too! The Skechers Razor 3 is so bouncy with the hyperburst... I hope Atreyu does something similar...I can't wait to try any iteration of this shoe!
Congrats on the sub20min 5k! Any beer mile tips? Doing back to back “races” this weekend, 1mile TT and then a beer mile the next day
Pace yourself
For its comparatively low price, durability wouldn’t be as big a priority as with other carbon-plated options as you point out Mike. I suspect the very thin layer of rubber would be the component that would wear out first. How does this compare to the Endorphin Speeds in your opinion? I’m still looking for a future marathon shoe, but also half marathon down to 5K racer, having just signed up for that B.A.A. 3 event medley. I’m curious about the Brooks HE2 since I adore the Hyp Tempo’s (and could consider them as racers, especially 5-10K). The fit on the Tempo’s is perfect for me but I don’t know if the unisex sizing of the HE2 will be less precise. Any feedback is welcome about any recommendations you might have. Martha
For the price, you could get 3 pairs for 1 pair of those you mentioned. So durability of Atreyu far exceeds those listed.
Runningcomposer So true! Are you a musician by chance?
Great video! I have the Atreyu base model and can't wait for this plated racer! Can you compare to other carbon plate shoes (and also how it is similar/different from the base Atreyu model)?
I’m definitely gonna have to try out those shoes...
Great video! Does anyone know what the first song is called? I like it
18:25 without that stick. Maybe just take a go pro when doing time trail or race if you badly want to film.
I’d rather have the shot
Prince Kofuzi the Generous
@@kofuzi and we all love you for it
Liking minimalist looks but do wish they could do a bit more effort with the graphic lettering as they did with embossed fly logo underneath the sole.
Suggestion- it would be really interesting watching your progression over the course of 1+ year with a coach. The prescribed speed/strength workouts will provide great content and shoe review miles...plus your 6:18 pace in today’s 5K will likely become your half marathon or marathon pace.
Running Otaku I’ve offered him my coach, who has galvanized my running and is a great guy as well. It’s a luxury but really worth it if one can swing it...
Let’s gooo!!!
That music! Looks like a nice shoe too.
Wow good news that you don't need to be a subscriber to get this shoes👍👍👏🏻. They can get my money. 🙂😉 Looks super stable. Gratulations on your 5k PB.
Thinking about purhasing a gopro 9 for filming when I run. How difficult was it to learn the filmiing while running? and what gear do you recommend for it?
And last aint it difficult to learn how to run with the camera?
Is it called the artist because of the white upper? Are we supposed to paint it? That’s so charming. Let’s go
artist vs saucony speed? which one would be better for daily training (maybe for tempos and faster aerobic runs)?
What about sizing ? I normally use a 45,5 eur = 11.5 USA size (29,5 cms ) but one atreyu website they show tt size 45 eur = 11 USA is 29,6 cms long and size 11,5 = 30 cms 😢
100 dollars for a plated shoe is promising. I don't really like the ultra minimalist look but I can look past that, performance is what counts.
I think the minimalist look is perfect. All too often brands are focusing more on how fast the shoe looks as compared to how it actually performs
Guys it’s not really about the shoes - it’s about you. You perform, shoes give you 1-2% top un return and in case of lets say 20 min per 5km it’s only 12 seconds. And you can practice so much using any shoe and cut off waaay more than 12 seconds. Keep it in mind. Not the shoe.
Thanks for the comparison to the Fuelcell and that it doesn't feel like a high stack shoe. I was worried about that. How was the ground feel?
Man oh man, running a time trial with a GoPro must be tough
You get used to it
@kofuzi what are your camera settings for the product close-up shots. I like the low depth of field effect
Congrats on your PR Kofuzi!
Can you tell me please more about upper of this shoe?On the picture It looks like not very breathable
or am I wrong?I'd like to hear your opinion.
I think it's crazy how long it took to get plates into running shoes. Nike has been doing it with their basketball shoes since the mid 90s. Hard to believe it took almost 20 years for them to get that tech into running shoes
Carlos rodriguez I think adidas may have even used a plate before Nike! Sometimes a recycled idea takes on a whole new meaning in later iterations
Daily trainer ought to be a bit heavier, so on race day you’re with lighter shoes to move easier in.
It’s a good argument for running with ankle weights
Does Kofuzi have a mullet going on? 🤔😎🤔
@kofuzi have you done more videos with these shoes? Durability, longer runs and respective feeling and paces, etc? Thank you
th-cam.com/video/ct-0GANOkp4/w-d-xo.html
@@kofuzi thank so much. Hopefully the 100 miles review is near. Cheers from Portugal!
Rock star Kofuzi！^^;
intriguing in wet surface please do try running 5k mix of wet and dry surface
my ability to bend the weather to my whim is still under development. i'm still only in my first year of diabolical genius school.
This company is so interesting. They’re trying some really ambitious things
Will they release black version? I would totally buy it if they come to Brasil 🇧🇷
i'm not aware of any plan for any other colors
That shoe is so white. You should have your girls draw something cool on it! Artist!!! Looked like a serious effort. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen that kind of pain on you. (you wore it well). Congrats on the PR buddy!
Hmmm. I like this idea.
1:20 fantastic shot
How did you find the fit? I feel like both The Artist and Base run 1/2 size small.
same upper in each
I love my Atreyu base model(s) but replace the thick insole with custom orthotics which just about makes them the most perfect shoe for me (my orthotics take up too much room on some shoes).
Do you have any insights (or can you find out) why they made the insoles non-removable on the Artist? Or whether can they be ripped out without destroying the shoe......
They're unremovable because if a removable insole gets screwed up in a daily trainer, it's no big deal to stop and fix it, but in a race that could be an issue and affect race performance. That's why in a lot of racing shoes, the insole is either glued or stitched down
Nick Whaley - actually I’ve since found out that it’s the same very light glue as the base model and should be easily removable.
@@deancollins6933 oh sweet that's good to hear, that way it'll stay in but if you want it out it's easy to remove
Not really sure why people are surprise that it is cheap. It's basically four generations behind the leading edge of Nike. The Alphafly Next% being a Gen 4 Carbon plated shoe. They've basically talked about how everything in the design of their shoes is low cost material and that the uppers were originally discarded material. It's easy to make things and sell things cheap when you're building them off really old tech and did 0 R&D to actually get the foam or the carbon plate etc.
it's just that easy
@@kofuzi it can be, you see this in bikes sourced from Chinese factories all the time. You can be selling way cheaper products if do 99% less development than your competitors.
Thanks for the review! Do you fit the same size in Atreyu as in Nike Next%? (or any other Nike)
yes
Do you plan on posting a review on Atreyu’s Voyager after 100 miles? I really liked your initial review but never saw a follow-up.
As soon as I run 100 miles in them, I will
@@kofuzi thank you!
Go Ko! Though surely you'd run a lot faster if you were swinging both arms / not filming all the way through??
For 3:15 marathoner i think u should run faster than that time. or u r not into 5k type?
I am a prolific collector of deficiencies
Could you share your Stryd power numbers for this run? Congrats on the PB!
strava.app.link/cGwSKNk9X9
Any stability issues on tight turns like the TC? Even in your video of the TC through Chicago I saw your left arch completely collapse on a tight left turn.
I didn’t feel that with the Atreyu. The turns weren’t quite as tight as in the TC video, so I can’t say for sure.
But, the Atreyu is lower to the ground and feels lower.
@@kofuzi thanks! Looking forward to more thoughts as you test it... And huge congrats on that PR